1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. Breakfast Club. Morning. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Everybody is the j Envy Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne the guy. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: in the building, the legendary and Kim Fields. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Morning, good morning, So glad to be here. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 4: Ho are you feeling? 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 3: I feel amazing? I feel amazing. How about you, guys? 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 5: That's Black and Holly famous, right, all right, that's what 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 5: another hit TV show, Kim season five with the Upshaws 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 5: on Netflix. 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: My god, how does it feel? 12 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: Really very surreal but awesome and you know, just loving 13 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 3: how everybody loves the Upshaws. It's it's really incredible. We're 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 3: in the middle of filming new episodes now while new 15 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: episodes just dropped, and it's just, you know, just the 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: party turn keeps on going. 17 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 4: Does it get weird? 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Ever? 19 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: Because people know you for so many different things, like 20 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: this new generation probably knows you from the Upshaws, but 21 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: don't know you from any of your previous things. 22 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people, I mean they still do 23 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: you know, the whole living single vibe. And I think 24 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: my favorite way to get recognized now is yo, ain't 25 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: you that from the mic Ap show. That's my favorite. 26 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: Like there's no there's no other career highlight. 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: But that do you stay with this one more? 28 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 5: Just because you know, like you're you're an old g 29 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 5: and when you were young, when you had a lot 30 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 5: of those other really hit show, Well. 31 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. I think this one hits different because of 32 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 3: the timing. There's so many shows, there's so much content 33 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: out there, there's so much noise out there, there's so 34 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: many platforms. And for us to keep finding our lane 35 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: and blazing new trails, breaking new ground, finding the audience 36 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: finding us and loving us and being so loyal. I 37 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: think that's you know, honestly what feels different about this one. 38 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 6: And you're producing and directing it too, so being on 39 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 6: both sides, how's that? 40 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: It's it's fun. I love being able to have a 41 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: voice for the whole thing. You know, sometimes when you're acting, 42 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 3: you just have your voice for that one piece and 43 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: then go home. And and so to be able to 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: really care about and have a voice that's regarded when 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 3: you're crafting the entire brand of the show, you know, 46 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: the storylines, the casting, this that all the Nixon cranny's 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: of it. 48 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 5: Is there a science that a successful sitcom or is 49 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: it just lucky to draw well. 50 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: I think it's a little bit of both, But there 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: is a science in terms of and especially again timing. 52 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: You got to be authentic. Everybody wants to see stories 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: and characters that really reflect the sign of the times, 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: that reflect who they are, that they can relate to. 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: I think relatability is the biggest thing right now, and 56 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: in comedy you have to be extraordinarily funny. And with 57 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: Mike and Wanda, when Mike started with the idea, he 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 3: brought it to Wanda and then it unfolded from there. 59 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: They said kind of the three tenants of the show 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 3: would be it had to be really funny, and really 61 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: messy and really real. And I feel like that's kind 62 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: of that formula that gets you that life in a bottle. 63 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: And then when I look back at my other series 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: or even other successful shows, I think that's really what 65 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 3: it comes down to. You know, are these characters engaging 66 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: and what are they into and what are the stories 67 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: and how do I relate to it? And if it's 68 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 3: not something that's either funny or relatable like sci fi 69 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: or period piece things like that, again, you've got to 70 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: be so grounded in whatever the truth is and then 71 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: let all of the you know, shenanigans or fantasy or 72 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: whatever kind of stem from that. 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: I think it doesn't get difficult to stay consistent because 74 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: I don't see that many black shows on ARA anymore 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: like I used to, and as actresses do so many gigs, 76 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: Is it easier to get gigs. 77 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: Or is it more difficult? Is it less work out there? 78 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? I was just talking with Holly Robinson Pete about this, 79 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: and it just seems like it's harder now and post 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: strike bounce back and things like that. One would think 81 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: that because again, like I said, there's much content, there's 82 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 3: so many platforms that there'd just be this plethora of 83 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: of of jobs and things. But at the same time, 84 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: you've got less episodes in a season now, so I 85 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: think that gets factored in as well. But overall, it 86 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: is an effort that you have got to put in 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 3: to keep it fresh, to keep it popping, because people 88 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: can recognize game and if you're trying to phone it in, 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: that's not gonna fly, you know, So, so you do 90 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: have to be committed and at the end of or 91 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: at the beginning of every season of the upshows. I'm 92 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 3: always you know, kind of giving our our war cry 93 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: of level up, let's level up. And I think that's 94 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 3: what we do. 95 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: Do they have to do? 96 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: You have to go out and try out for these 97 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 2: parts anymore as one of those things. But like now 98 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 2: they'll call me for a part I'm not I'm not 99 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: I'm not at there. I'm too iconic, I'm not doing that. 100 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: There is a shift. So I don't know necessarily audition 101 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: and I haven't for quite some time. Amen, But you know, 102 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: you get considered. But my thing is, don't just tell me, well, 103 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: you know your name is out there or your name 104 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: is on the list, because I don't know what people 105 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: think when they think Kim Fields, especially the industry, And 106 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: so my thing is I'm usually having to erase some ghosts, 107 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. 108 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 4: So that meaning I. 109 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: Don't I don't want you to just go, oh yeah, 110 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 3: well Kim Field's and then your mind thinks of anything 111 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: from facts of life to and with the internet everything. 112 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I just posted Miss Butterworth commercial, you know, 113 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 3: as a throwback living single. You just never know what 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: people's perception is, not just in terms of you, but 115 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: then your ability to do that character to be a chameleon, 116 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: and to me, that's one of the greatest gifts of 117 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: acting is to be a chameleon. I don't don't want 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: to play Kim Fields and something because then what is 119 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: that I'm not acting, which is why Regime was one 120 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: of my favorites to play because she was so not 121 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: like me. But but I'm not in that space of 122 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 3: where I go in and audition and things like that. 123 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 3: There are times that I'll go in and meet like 124 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: a chemistry read go in and meet casting or producer's 125 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 3: director just so that they they see what's up. I can't. 126 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 5: I guess the best way to describe it most of 127 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 5: the times in Hollywood is not even about what you 128 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 5: do on camera. 129 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: That was how you are off camera. 130 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 5: But you I don't know, but you've never had that 131 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 5: reputation to be in like difficult to work when you 132 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 5: never flipped the table in the. 133 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, no, no, because I feel like number one, 134 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: I just love our industry. And then in terms of 135 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 3: somebody who is into wellness, you treat people with respect 136 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: and and you you know, should get that reciprocity. There 137 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: are times when you do difficult moments, sure, and working 138 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: on a project after a while working like with family, 139 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: and we all know that family can you know, be 140 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: you know, interesting to to navigate and so. But but 141 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 3: there's a certain level of professionalism, there's a certain level 142 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: of respect. Home training you. 143 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: Don't hear that no more. 144 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: You got from home Trainers, right exactly. 145 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 6: Regime was my girl, though, like that was my I'm 146 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 6: glad that you said that that was your favorite to 147 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 6: play because that was my girl. 148 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: I grew up watching that show. 149 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 6: And speaking of those shows like Facts of Life and 150 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 6: Living Single, how are you with the cast of those shows? 151 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: So close? So close? Yes, Kim Coles and I just 152 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: had a text and tc uh the Living Single cast 153 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: along with the show's creator. Event we are on a 154 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: text thread that is that should really be the reboot 155 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: just this text or just just take snaps a screenshot 156 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 3: to that. But we are super close basically Again, like 157 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: I said, when you work with people for a stretch 158 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: of time, even on a movie, you know that's a 159 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: month or six weeks, eight weeks sometimes you know, six months, 160 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: you really do become like a family. And when I 161 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: grew up, I started out as a crew baby. So 162 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: I always love you know that that kind of famiale concept. 163 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: So we always keep in touch. I'm always, you know, 164 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: making sure that I'm doing my part, you know, to 165 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: stay in touch with people and see what's up. 166 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 5: I've been hearing Queen Erica Alexander talk talk about a reboot. 167 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 5: I don't know how serious it is because she jokes 168 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 5: a lot, but she'll put up She'll be like, you'll say, 169 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 5: money to the GoFundMe. 170 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: Don't you know what I mean? Are there really some 171 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: serious talks happening. 172 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: We've been on and off in serious talks. And I 173 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: think the thing that is the great disruptor, and it's 174 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: a good problem to have, is nobody's available. I mean, 175 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: that's that's a great problem to have. Nobody is sitting 176 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: around like, yeah, y'all remember me, we could do this. 177 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: It's not the case at all. And so I think 178 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 3: that that's that's really like I said, it's a good 179 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: problem to have. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you know, to me, 180 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: the thing about reboots, you gotta be careful with them, 181 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: I think because there the idea is always intriguing and 182 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: and you want more of of something that's familiar to you. 183 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: But if you get it wrong, you can't just throw 184 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: these characters back together and be like, what would y'all 185 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: be doing now? And and so I really applaud people 186 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 3: who do it really well because they're taking the time 187 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 3: to not just think about what these characters would be 188 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 3: doing now, but how to not like Cobra Kai, they 189 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: did the damn thing. You know, they really that was 190 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 3: a reboot slash reimagining. And so I feel like when 191 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: you when you really fine tuned it and you're strategic 192 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: about it, it can be great. But again the timing, 193 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: do you. 194 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: Feel like you have to remind people I said, you said? 195 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: You reposted an old Waterworth commercial. Sometimes you feel like 196 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: you got to remind people what you've done because they 197 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: forget so fast. 198 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: Oh No, the Internet is marvelous. 199 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: Maybe I should, as you get embarrassed with some of 200 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 4: the older stuff. 201 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 3: No, because I know the place that it comes from. 202 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: I recognize that the characters that I've been able to 203 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: breathe life into the shows that I've been a part of, 204 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: they mean something to people, and not just people of color, 205 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: not just black women, but they mean something. And so 206 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: I understand again the place that it that it comes from. So, 207 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 3: you know, I don't get that that don't get mad 208 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: or upset or embarrassed. It's actually still very surreal, you know, 209 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 3: the way that you can do something and it has impact. 210 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: What you guys do here, and it has impact, you know, 211 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 3: and people hold on to some of these gems and 212 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: and won't let them go. 213 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 5: You know, I wanted to ask you, what do you 214 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 5: think Black people are more impactful nowadays behind the camera 215 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 5: are in front of the camera. 216 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's finally, you know, kind of evened 217 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: itself out in terms of the amount of storytellers and 218 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 3: creatives behind the scenes, so that there are more stories. 219 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: But we're not just telling black stories either, and so 220 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: I feel like that's been really significant, you know. But 221 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 3: I think that we're evening out in terms of where 222 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: our impact is. We have more cinematographers, we have more editors, 223 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: we have more showrunners, more makeup and hair teams. I mean, 224 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: you know, you have people that are just in all 225 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: the spaces more now than ever, and so I feel 226 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: like that's helping to level the playing fields so that 227 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: we're now more of a collective as opposed to just 228 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: the select actors and actresses that were the chosen ones. 229 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: I know, the representation always matters. Where does it? 230 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 5: What do you think it matters more? Hm, Well, to 231 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 5: be seen or creating this story. 232 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: So to speak, Well, if you well, I think you 233 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: know it's it's one of those which comes first, chicken 234 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: of the egg, because you have to have the story 235 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: to be seen in. Yeah, but then you have to 236 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 3: have the lights to be seen. You have to have 237 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: you know, the cameras to CEOs. So so I feel 238 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: like it's it's all it's all one. It's it's it's 239 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: a movement, you know, I feel like it's all one movement. 240 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: Lighting is important for black people, say, we don't talk 241 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: about that enough. Lighting is important. 242 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 5: You know. 243 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 3: There is a celebrated director of photography who started out 244 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: as a lighting director. Well he didn't start out like 245 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: they probably started as you know well below that named 246 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 3: Don Morgan. And Don Morgan was just I think last 247 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 3: year inducted into the Hall of Fame. He has one 248 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: countless multiple emmys. Uh. And he started I learned from 249 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: him on Facts of Life and then he was the 250 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: original lighting director and set in DP and set the 251 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: show for the upshows. So coming full circle, the woman 252 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 3: who does my makeup on the Upshaws did my makeup 253 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 3: on facts of Life. 254 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 5: Wow. 255 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, our first A d started out as a 256 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: runner on Facts of Life and now he's you know, 257 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: so it's just it's some of our camera people, you know, 258 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 3: people that I've known since I was a little girl 259 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 3: and I learned from. But but everybody is important. I 260 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: think that's that's the main thing about crew. And you know, 261 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 3: they used to call it above the line, below the line, 262 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: and at this point there's no line anymore. You know, 263 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: some people will be like, well, there is for paying, 264 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: but we're talking about it from a creative aspect and 265 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: right now, you know, it's it's all the collective effort, effort. 266 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 4: Now, you started out so young acting, right, yes, And. 267 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: We hear all these stories about childhood actors and actresses. 268 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Did you have to go. 269 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 2: Through any of that where you know, how did your 270 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: parents or family make sure that you were safe from 271 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: all the stuff that we're hearing about exactly? 272 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 3: And you know, the thing that still gets me to 273 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: this day, bro, is that she was a single teen mom. 274 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: She ain't know nothing about raising a kid, let alone 275 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 3: raising a kid in the industry, but she had the 276 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: good sense to know, hey, we need to make sure 277 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 3: you're kind. She was an actress and always knew to 278 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: be professional, so she imparted that to me, but she 279 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: never stopped parenting me. You know, So a lot of 280 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 3: the stuff now, just growing up, that's you know, whether 281 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: you're in Hollywood or you know, anywhere else in the 282 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: Hollywood of Harlem, you're still going to have to grow 283 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: up and deal with all the shit that comes from 284 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: just growing up, growing pains. But when you're doing it, 285 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: you know, in a fish bowl, of course it's different. 286 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: There's more pressure. But but again, I'm chips Kid, so 287 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's one of that I got home training. 288 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: I knew better. 289 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 6: You had directed a bunch of episodes of the keen 290 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 6: and Kenan and Cal Show as well, And I don't 291 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 6: know if you saw the Quiet on the Set documentary. 292 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 3: But I did not see it, but I'm aware of it, 293 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 3: and I was actually not there during that time. I 294 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: was after that time. But I don't know if that 295 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: was your question. 296 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 6: Yea, how closely did you work with Dan Schneider? 297 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: And yeah, like Keenan said, you know, we kind of 298 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: came after all of that, so we were in a 299 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: different time frames. 300 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 5: Miss Chipsfield, right when you saw that episode, on Good 301 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 5: Times when she played Janet Jackson Mama, yeah, right with 302 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 5: that eye in and everything else. Do you have an 303 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 5: Askcret where did that come from? And I know she 304 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 5: wasn't doing that. 305 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: No, No, she wasn't doing uh. And the thing for 306 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: me with that episode is and that storyline is I 307 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: saw them practice. I saw them rehearse. LaToya would bring 308 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: jan over to our apartment and studio city and they 309 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 3: would work on that material. So to me, it wasn't terrifying, 310 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 3: like you know, everybody's like this woman scared me and 311 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: still does and I'm shook and all that. I'm like, 312 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: they just they were working hard in the kitchen, and 313 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 3: you know, so I have a very different perspective on it. 314 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: But I'd always known my mother to be a tremendous actor. 315 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: I mean tremendous actor back in that New York early seventies, 316 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 3: mid seventies when they were doing all the movies out 317 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: here and and just it was a different type of acting, 318 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: you know that was so hardcore and so real, Clauding 319 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: taking a pelm one, two three, Come Back, Charleston Blue, 320 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: you know, those those movies where they weren't the blaxploitation is, 321 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: and she she was, I mean she was, you know, 322 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, twenty two coming up in that and 323 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 3: she would bring the thunder all the time. And so 324 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: when she migrated to La they you know, it was 325 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: almost like that hadn't seen that kind of that style 326 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: of acting, which is why she really stood out. 327 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: Did she did she like, I don't want to say force, 328 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 5: that's nothing, right Rod, But did she pushed you to Hollywood? 329 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: Not at all? Not at all. So when mom was 330 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: doing Pearl Bailey's Hello Dolly, I would go to either 331 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: to the theater here on Broadway, or I would go 332 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: to see her on tour. And I loved being behind 333 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: the scenes. Like I'm a really shy person, and I 334 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: was a very shy kid. I was an only child 335 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: for the longest time, so I wasn't like watch me 336 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: and not at all. I was one of them, you know, 337 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 3: sit back in the cut and watch. But I loved 338 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: seeing what I would come to know as the artisans, right, 339 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: the people, the crew babies. Well, I mean I was 340 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: the crew baby, but the crew still working and seeing 341 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 3: them create the wigs and the makeup and the sets 342 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 3: and this and the costumes and everything, and so That's 343 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: what I loved about it, and I knew that I 344 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: wanted to be a part of that. And she would 345 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 3: always once I got started in it, she would always say, well, 346 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: do you want to do this? Like every time we 347 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: would get the call that facts life had been picked up, 348 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: she said, do you still want to do it? Do 349 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 3: you still want to act? You still want to do 350 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: this again? And wow, because like, how do you know 351 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: to do that? 352 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: So did you ever get out of line? 353 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 5: And she grabbed an iron and just playing, but she did. 354 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: She did backhand me, and I was like, okay, mama, 355 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 3: backhand and one just a note. Well, I had warning too, 356 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 3: because my mom, from the time she was a little girl, 357 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: she had a temper and and so if she bit 358 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: her knuckle, that means you get the hell out the way. Yeah. Yeah, 359 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: And so I saw it and I was like, but 360 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: that don't mean me right now, I'm not doing it 361 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 3: it exactly now. 362 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: I wanted to you know, you pick what you want 363 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: to do. Is it's something that you've been thinking about 364 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: that you want to do? 365 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: Oh? Boy, absolutely, I want to do some And I've 366 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: been developing with a really great team some projects in 367 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 3: the sci fi genre. I have an inner mermaid in 368 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: me that is just dying to come out. I also 369 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 3: have an inner explorer in me. So I'm just now 370 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: starting to have conversations with National Geographic, which nice man. 371 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: Wait to y'all see me at the top of some 372 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 3: glacier and you know, listen, that is me all day, 373 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: every day. Yes, So I just love that kind of 374 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 3: like we're not going on that. 375 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: Glacier. 376 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: So you want to play like a mermaid like. 377 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, but but but like you mean like like 378 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: mermaids water swimming. Yes, absolutely. 379 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: Well. 380 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 3: I love water. I love water, and so I've always 381 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: been fascinated with what is beneath the surface and I 382 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: really love like Netflix had this documentary I'll call people 383 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 3: Sean listen that thing right there. I started following all 384 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 3: of them and they were like, oh my god. And 385 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 3: so I just think it's really just so fascinat And 386 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: my son asked me once, you know, if you had 387 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: a superpower, well, and I was like, I'd want to 388 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: breathe underwater, Like that's the superpower that I what is? 389 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 3: People people are the mermaid culture. So they are it's 390 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: a subculture, but it's like a whole thing. Like they 391 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: got like festivals and co. But they they they embraced 392 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,479 Speaker 3: the mermaid concept for the mermaid concept, and then they 393 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 3: have cruisers, they have competitions and things. And there's this guy, 394 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 3: Merr Taylor. He makes these incredible I promised before God 395 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: that he makes these incredible fins tails. But they are 396 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: so gorgeous and elaborate. And he started as a kid 397 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 3: by watching in Florida this hole in the sixties. They 398 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: had like this whole swim show with these with these 399 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 3: women who would wear these beautiful costumes and things, and 400 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 3: I was fascinating. So I've always loved that. So then 401 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, what if there's like a c I A 402 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 3: but for the whole mirror culture. 403 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: They aliens for the aliens they have for the Mermaids. 404 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 3: Right exactly exactly, but but it's it's it's their version 405 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: of the CIA. Like why do y'all keep coming in 406 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 3: the water looking for stuff? Get out of here? That 407 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 3: could be it could be c Like come on, now, yeah. 408 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 5: I got a book I'm going to recommend you called 409 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: Shallow Waters. It's about uh we got them. Oh yes, 410 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 5: it's by It's good. It's a fictional. 411 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: Book to read. 412 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:45,719 Speaker 3: I love to. 413 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 6: That don't even read. 414 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: I love, I love to read. I'm actually reading this 415 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: beautiful story. It's actually the true story of Elizabeth Taylor 416 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: and Montgomery Cliff and their friendship and they're working together 417 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: and it's it's beautiful. But going back to the book, yes. 418 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you if you leave, But like I 419 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 5: love the underwater exploration because I feel like the Earth 420 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 5: is not seventy five percent water for no reason. You 421 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 5: hear those stories about how it probably was a huge flood, 422 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 5: and like there's so much under there, like a whole 423 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 5: other civilizations. 424 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: I truly believe that. 425 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so this weekend I'm dropping my first in person 426 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 3: conversation with refreshed by KF that's my series of conversations 427 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 3: in my wellness space, and my first in person conversation 428 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: is with an explorer engineer named Albert Lynn. Albert was 429 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: on the show Welcome to Earth that Will Smith did 430 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 3: for National Geographic and then he hosts these shows Cities 431 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 3: Revealed Lost Cities, the under what is it not underwater 432 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: but the lost civilizations of the Mayans, And we were 433 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: talking about, you know, these civilizations and how when they 434 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: discover what really was there, who was there? How empowering 435 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: it is for the people who were there. So I'm 436 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 3: really as you can hear and see, I'm just I'm fascinated. 437 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: Can you better not get on one of them submarines 438 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 4: to go down there? 439 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: You better not to go down there? You better not. 440 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: I will do my very best. I will do my best, 441 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: but I mean, you know, there's there's certain dramas that 442 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: that for me. In twenty sixteen, I told my team 443 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: it's all about uncharted waters. We only say yes to 444 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: things we haven't done before, to spaces we have not 445 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: been in before. And not only saying yes, but go 446 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 3: out and go out into the uncharted waters and find 447 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: the new storytellers, find the new characters and things like that, 448 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: the new styles of storytelling. So that's where I am 449 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 3: with that, because I still love after all this time, 450 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: I still love what I do. And that's why when 451 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 3: I put the Miss Butterworth picture up as like, Wow, 452 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 3: that's me and we're still going. You know, we're still going? 453 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: Is what has changed in Hollywood? 454 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think obviously the biggest thing is just technology 455 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: that then informs things like how people watch, where people watch, 456 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 3: how much people can watch. So I think tech has 457 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 3: really made such an impact. But I remember when we 458 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 3: were doing Living Single and it was like, oh, we 459 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 3: got to renegotiate because DVDs is a thing and nobody 460 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: knew what that was going to be, like you know, 461 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 3: and so now there's streaming and now there's all these 462 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 3: different ways that you can watch. But everything is cyclical, 463 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: you know, everything comes back. But I think tech that 464 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 3: you know, you can shoot anything on your phone and 465 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: upload it to your own YouTube channel and now you're 466 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 3: a network executive. Well then that's the thing. That's why 467 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: when people ask man, I'm like, always make sure the 468 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 3: quality is there because everybody has a microphone now and 469 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: everybody has a camera now, But it's how you're using it. 470 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 2: How does that effect when you're renegotiating and you're doing 471 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: all these things. Because you know, we were growing up, 472 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 2: we would set out we were Thursday at eight, we 473 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: have to watch this, you know, Sunday at this we'd 474 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 2: have to watch this. But now it's kind of like, 475 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 2: you know, well I'll I'll catch it tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, 476 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: and how does that. 477 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 4: Because can you actually register who's watching what shows? 478 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: Because if you look at social media, the shows are hits, 479 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: but the shows that. 480 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 4: Are hits that we love sometimes don't get renewed. 481 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, they talk about and they use words like 482 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: analytics and you know, algorithms and all of that to 483 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 3: really measure who's watching what, how much you how much 484 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: time you're watching something and all that, which is again 485 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: a testament to everyone who loves the Upshaws because we 486 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 3: stay in the top ten for so long even though 487 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 3: we're a half hour show and we only have you know, 488 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: like five episodes or four episodes or six episodes, and 489 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: so the idea that we are holding our own with 490 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: these brands and these titles that have you know, ten 491 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 3: episodes of one hour, that's you know, a lot more time, 492 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: and yet we're still you know, in the running with them. 493 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: So yes, they do have ways to monetize it and 494 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 3: monitor it. That's as far as I as I as 495 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: I know. In terms of the contracts though, yes, when 496 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 3: you see like people getting monetizing from like YouTube or 497 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 3: Google ads and things like that, so there are certain 498 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 3: contracts where they say okay, after a certain number of 499 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: minutes that are engaged or hours that are engaged, then 500 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 3: you know, you get a check or you get more 501 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 3: checks and things like that so they say that there's 502 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 3: you know, there there's a science to all of it. 503 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 5: They never going to show you the real numbers though, 504 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: They're never going to show you all the analytics. 505 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 3: Well, you know, don't don't. Don't look behind the curtain 506 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: too hard. 507 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: May is mental Health Awareness month. 508 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: It's also my birthday month. But yes it is. Thank 509 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: you so very much, thank you, thank you. 510 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: But yes it is a refreshed by KF. What is 511 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: that exactly? I heard you mentioned it earlier. 512 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 3: Yes, so refreshed by KF. Thank you for asking. That's 513 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: my wellness platform. It's my wellness brand. We do events, 514 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: we have retreats, we have one coming up in June, 515 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 3: and it's a space where for me, I needed to 516 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 3: be able to have wellness presented in a way that 517 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 3: for me, was accessible, that was attainable, sustainable. You know, 518 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 3: that didn't mean I had to eat just only green 519 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 3: foods and have no fun and you know, if I 520 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: didn't have my ankle and my you know neck and 521 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: wrapped up and all this stuff, that I'm not going 522 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: to be well. And I just felt like, well, that 523 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 3: can't be And I wanted to hear from people who 524 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: were either on wellness journeys or healing from different things, 525 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: or had different products and brands that weren't getting featured 526 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 3: in some of the more mainstream you know, wink wink, 527 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: mainstream area. 528 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 6: You can't drop no hints in here. 529 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 3: Okay, but but but it's not a black brand. Refreshed 530 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 3: by KF is for literally every body. And so my job, 531 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: I feel like in the wellness space is I'm not 532 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 3: an expert. I don't have answers, but I'm standing next 533 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 3: to the man or next to the woman who does. 534 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: I'm able to set a table and provide meals. What 535 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: you choose to come and eat, that's on you. And 536 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: that's how I feel about the wellness space. So without retreats, 537 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 3: I do the same kind of thing where I curate it. 538 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 3: I personally cultivated the location, the spaces, the activities, activations, 539 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 3: all of that, the refreshing friends who are coming, and 540 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: just making sure the schedule, you know, because I just 541 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: start with what is it that I need? Because I 542 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: keep finding out that when I put out there, here's 543 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: what I need, Here's what I'm feeling, Here's what I'm thinking, 544 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: Here's what's on me. The masses are like yo, shit, 545 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: me do and it ends up becoming that type of 546 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 3: unique share, you know, and an environment in a safe space. 547 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: So that's refreshed by KF. We have live conversations now, 548 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 3: we have the IG conversations that started back in twenty twenty. 549 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: We have the retreats. We have of course social media, 550 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 3: the YouTube channel where we help you know, people find 551 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: their inner explorer. We shine light on different subcultures, not 552 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: just the murror people, but like mixologists, you know, and 553 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: just different places and spaces where you go, oh my gosh, 554 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: that's really interesting stories and people and experiences that maybe 555 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 3: inspire you to go you know what, I will. I 556 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 3: will get up ten minutes earlier and go walking, or 557 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: I will learn how to swim, or I will decide 558 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: to kayak for five minutes or whatever it may be. 559 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 3: That just helps people come out of their comfort zones 560 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: but deal with their well being. Our tagline is give 561 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 3: yourself permission to be well. As an actor, I'm always 562 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: finding how powerful it is when you give your self 563 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: permission to go there right, to be even funnier, to 564 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 3: be even more emotional, and you give yourself permission. And 565 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: that's always the catchphrase in acting. And I thought, well, 566 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,239 Speaker 3: what if we open that up more in terms of 567 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: your well being, you know, and we also make sure 568 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 3: I truly am am the champion for making sure that 569 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: men and men's wellness is a big part of our platform. 570 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: So we have refreshments and the emmy n is you know, 571 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 3: more prominent, and it's to make sure that the fellas 572 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: know you are welcomed here and we will help you 573 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 3: cultivate your wellness journey as well. 574 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: Incredible where did they go to? 575 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 3: The Yes So Refresh Retreat by KF dot com. That's 576 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 3: the website for the retreat and that also gives you 577 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: things like our store. We just dropped our first playlist 578 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: that I curated on Spotify and we again have Channel 579 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: Refresh on YouTube of course, refreshed by KF is the 580 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 3: ig and TikTok and social media, but basically using your 581 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: microphone and your platform to really impact in a different way. 582 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: And that's that's what I feel. People ask me about 583 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: legacy quite a bit, and I feel like, at some 584 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 3: point I want legacy for me not just to be 585 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 3: these great characters, but also these great experiences and this 586 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 3: great space that people feel like she helped me take 587 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: care of myself and not just with the gift of 588 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: laughter or the gift of being seen on television seeing 589 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: somebody that looked like me, but my literal wellness as well. 590 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 5: You know, want to ask, because you brought up the 591 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 5: characters that you play, you played some iconic characters, like 592 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 5: that's rare for anybody. 593 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: I don't get black, white. 594 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 5: Whatever, it's real you to have that type of success, 595 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 5: you know three different times. Was there ever a role 596 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 5: that you auditioned for or even turned down that that 597 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 5: became iconic with somebody else and you was like, damn, 598 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 5: I should have did that. 599 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: No, okay, but but I do have a story in reverse. 600 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 3: So I got a call to h I got a 601 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: call to go in for storm for the X Men. Wow, 602 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: don't get happy, don't do it family. And so when 603 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 3: I got the call, I thought. 604 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: What is helly? 605 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 3: Don't what is she tripping? 606 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 5: What? 607 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: Don't do that? 608 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 4: Girl? 609 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: But okay, one man's trash is another man's track. So 610 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay. So I got my boots out and 611 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: my outfit and I was on white hair Listen. I 612 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 3: was ready to show them, only to find out that 613 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: the damn thing was for the animated series. 614 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: It was like, oh, they probably like the way you 615 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: showed up. 616 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 3: No I didn't. I didn't show up for that like that, 617 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 3: and yeah, so but yeah, no, that's that's all. 618 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, five of the up shows out on that season. 619 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: Five. 620 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 3: No, no, no, he's right. So they did this thing, 621 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: they did like a little test to see, you know, 622 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: calling it parts rather than seasons because they would drop 623 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 3: half and half and so, so they called it parts. 624 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 3: So it's part. I just say new episodes, new episodes, 625 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 3: and just you know, leave it at that. 626 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: Parts are usually for films. 627 00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: Listen, yes, volume six, Well check it out. 628 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 4: It's on Netflix right now. And we appreciate you for joining. 629 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 3: Us so much. Thank you for having me. Thank you. 630 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 2: All right, it's ken Fields, it's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, 631 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 2: Wake that ass. 632 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: Up in the morning Club. Breakfast Club.