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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, October fourteenth, twenty twenty, season sixteen,
Speaker 1: episode number forty four. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break. I am Derek Heilton. I'm joined by Nick
Speaker 1: Eatman here live in the studio, the SWBC Mortgat Studio.
Speaker 1: We also got Dave and Amber joining us from home.
Speaker 1: And because it is Wednesday, we welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks of NFL Network talk little bit of Cowboys
Speaker 1: versus Cardinals with us today. We are going to focus
Speaker 1: in on Cowboys defense versus the Cardinals offense, and Bucky,
Speaker 1: as we do every Wednesday, I'm going to start by
Speaker 1: asking you what are the greatest shrinks and or the
Speaker 1: greatest strength and the greatest weakness of this Arizona offense.
Speaker 1: This Arizona offense is explosive, is dynamic. They can attack
Speaker 1: you a bunch of different ways. Their quarterback, who is
Speaker 1: a Texas high school legend, is as good as advertised.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is everything that you look for at the position.
Speaker 1: He's efficient, he's explosive, he does a great job of
Speaker 1: really testing the defense with his arm and his legs,
Speaker 1: and he has really kind of come into his own
Speaker 1: in the second season. Even though the numbers will tell
Speaker 1: you that he has had some struggles with the six interceptions,
Speaker 1: he's completely almost seventy percent of his passes. He has
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns six interceptions that US spoke about, but he
Speaker 1: has five touchdowns on the ground. And as he is
Speaker 1: beginning to really get comfortable in this offense, they added
Speaker 1: another weapon in DeAndre Hopkins, maybe the best wide receiver
Speaker 1: in football, and they are treating him as such. DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins leads the league and receiving yards. He's the only
Speaker 1: play in the National Football League with over five hundred
Speaker 1: receiving yards and forty plus catches. They are using him
Speaker 1: beyond just being a chain mover like he was used
Speaker 1: in Houston. He's taking it deep. He's doing more things
Speaker 1: on the route tree than we've seen him do. And
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury really has this offense rolling because they got
Speaker 1: a couple of running gap backs in Kenyan Drake and
Speaker 1: Chase Emmons. The offensive line has been better than expected
Speaker 1: and so because of this, this offense can explode and
Speaker 1: we really haven't seen them tap into that explosive nature,
Speaker 1: but they can be a handful bucky. Last weekend, in
Speaker 1: the game against the Giants, we saw the Dallars defense
Speaker 1: taking eady, beaty, eaty, tiny bit step forward. But when
Speaker 1: you're talking about Urias offense, is this a game where
Speaker 1: hopefully the defense is able to take another another eatbaty
Speaker 1: step forward or kind of go back to what we've
Speaker 1: been seeing. You know. It's it's interesting because the Cowboys
Speaker 1: issues have been against the run in the past. Last
Speaker 1: week we saw where the Giants tried to run right
Speaker 1: at them successfully early in the game, and then the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were able to kind of get an under control,
Speaker 1: i would say, and put the game on Daniel Jones.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals typically don't operate operate like that like they
Speaker 1: will run it, but they're at their best when Kyla
Speaker 1: Murray is just kind of dealing like a Vegas casino dealer.
Speaker 1: He's just kind of distributing the ball to all the
Speaker 1: playmakers that they have around him and it goes and
Speaker 1: so Dallas would be tested in a different way. They'll
Speaker 1: be tested from a coverage standpoint one, How does Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan elect to defend DeAndre Hopkins? Because it has to
Speaker 1: start with that. If you go one on one, DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins is gonna have a one hundred and fifty plus
Speaker 1: yards and it's gonna be a big day for him.
Speaker 1: And so they have to determine how are they going
Speaker 1: to take DeAndre Hopkins away. The other thing is if
Speaker 1: you take him away, are you willing to live with
Speaker 1: leaf is Gerald and Kristen Kirk getting whatever they get
Speaker 1: in the passing game and just knowing that they may
Speaker 1: move it, but you will eliminate some of the big plays.
Speaker 1: And then the counter to that is how committed to
Speaker 1: the running game with Cliff Kingsbury be considering what has
Speaker 1: been on tape the last couple of weeks in terms
Speaker 1: of the leakage and the running game. Will he hand
Speaker 1: the ball off to Kenyan Drake and see how many
Speaker 1: carries he can muster. Kenny get a hundred yard game
Speaker 1: on the ground. So the Cowboys defense will be tested.
Speaker 1: It'd be tested in a different way, and I'm curious
Speaker 1: to see what kind of game playing Mike Noland comes
Speaker 1: up with, which Bucky, That's actually exactly what I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about, because we're going to talk about Kyler
Speaker 1: and Hopkins and that's obviously terrifying. But Kenyan Drake is
Speaker 1: he's not really off to an amazing start. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he's a talented guy, but he's below four
Speaker 1: yards a carry. I saw this morning on Twitter that
Speaker 1: his expected yards per attempt is is one of the
Speaker 1: worst in the league right now, And I'm curious, is
Speaker 1: it something with him? Is it with their line? Is
Speaker 1: it because they're not very interested in establishing the run?
Speaker 1: What exactly is the problem there? And is it something
Speaker 1: that they could maybe get right against the Dallas defense
Speaker 1: that has struggled against the run. Well, this offensive line
Speaker 1: isn't great. The best thing about Cala Murray is the
Speaker 1: way that he is able to master the deficiencies of
Speaker 1: the offensive line. Either the ball comes out so quick
Speaker 1: that the pass rush is a non factor, or he
Speaker 1: is able to elude and evade pressure and make plays happen,
Speaker 1: so the offensive line never looks like they're as bad
Speaker 1: as they actually are. It shows up in the running
Speaker 1: game because this is not a physical offensive line, unlike
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Their DNA is not in trying to
Speaker 1: push people and match people off the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and to make it a physical contest in the trenches.
Speaker 1: And so from a run game perspective, is more deception
Speaker 1: and mister direction and trickery as opposed to, Hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna line up and play smashed my football. That said,
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys have struggled on the ground, I think
Speaker 1: early in the game you will at least see the
Speaker 1: Cardinals try to test him with the running game, and
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys stand up early, the running game will
Speaker 1: probably fall by the wayside. But if they have any issues,
Speaker 1: you will see it persistent in the steady died of
Speaker 1: the Rum with Kenyan Drake Buckets. Is Kyler good enough
Speaker 1: where you need to have a spy on him? And
Speaker 1: if so, who's the spy in this case? Who? Do
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have a linebacker or safety that could be
Speaker 1: with him? Man? I don't know if man, he is
Speaker 1: so quick and explosive, I don't know if you really
Speaker 1: can spy him. You know, it's unique because it reminds
Speaker 1: me a lot of how Russell Wilson runs around in place.
Speaker 1: He only uses it when he absolutely needs it, But
Speaker 1: when he does need it, man, he has another year
Speaker 1: to go get it. And I think the Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: comparison is at because I think it gives you an
Speaker 1: idea of the challenges that the Cowboys could face in
Speaker 1: dealing with Colin Murray. Because Colin Murray typically saves his
Speaker 1: runs for money downs third down when they need it,
Speaker 1: down in the red zone when they have to have it.
Speaker 1: He is different than a Lamar Jackson type who is
Speaker 1: running because that's kind of like the driving force of
Speaker 1: their game. Kyla uses it when he has it. He'll
Speaker 1: pull the club out the bag when he needs it.
Speaker 1: But he is so good at getting down and so
Speaker 1: good at evading and eluding people. Man, you could put
Speaker 1: Thomas on him, you could put Smith, like I just
Speaker 1: don't know who can run with him and stick with
Speaker 1: him in that sense. I think the best way to
Speaker 1: kind of come after him is you gotta make him
Speaker 1: stay in the pocket and as they say in football Church,
Speaker 1: you gotta make him throw from the whale, meaning he's
Speaker 1: a shorter, undersized quarterback. You need to make him throw
Speaker 1: from the pocket and see if he can find those
Speaker 1: lanes against the trees inside, so that means you're outside edge.
Speaker 1: Rushes can rush to the depth of his drop, but
Speaker 1: they don't want to rush past him and give him
Speaker 1: escape lanes. It is really a challenge of your discipline
Speaker 1: in your detail as a pass rush, a collective effort
Speaker 1: to make sure that you keep him contained and make
Speaker 1: him throw from the pocket, don't let him leak out
Speaker 1: and run and make plays away from the pocket. Let's
Speaker 1: stick with the topic of Kyler Murray and I was
Speaker 1: looking at some of the games they've played this year.
Speaker 1: Detroit has actually done the best job of of slowing
Speaker 1: Murray down, particularly from when it comes to him running.
Speaker 1: They were able to hold him to twenty nine rush
Speaker 1: yards on five attempts. Detroit goes on to win that
Speaker 1: game twenty six twenty three. What did they do in
Speaker 1: that game that allowed them to be successful in that way,
Speaker 1: because it does seem like in the games where the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals have lost, they have controlled Tyler when it
Speaker 1: comes to him running well, you know, like it's funny
Speaker 1: because the Detroit lines are typically a heavy man demand
Speaker 1: team they didn't play as much man demand against him
Speaker 1: that week. When you play a lot of man demand,
Speaker 1: your defensive backs and your linebackers have their back to
Speaker 1: the quarterback and so if he spots the lane, he
Speaker 1: can take and then he can go for big plays.
Speaker 1: Whereas in zone you have guys who are eyeball in
Speaker 1: the quarterback. When he does break, they're able to close
Speaker 1: on them quickly. The thing about it, I think it
Speaker 1: was a different plan than the Cardinals anticipated. They had
Speaker 1: dialed up all their man beaters and they're throwing man
Speaker 1: beaters against zone coverage, and I think it took Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury a while to adjust. I think you come back
Speaker 1: the next week the Jets try to do a little
Speaker 1: more zone, and they absolutely obliterated the zone. So I
Speaker 1: think you have to be able to pick your poison
Speaker 1: or how you're gonna come after him. I do believe
Speaker 1: with this and Mike Nolan and talking to people around
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan, he is not one who really loves being
Speaker 1: an aggressive, high pressure play caller. But I think you
Speaker 1: have to. You have to mix in some of that stuff,
Speaker 1: not only because it disrupts the rhythm of Kyler, but
Speaker 1: because the pass rush has been so inconsistent, you're trying
Speaker 1: to create one on one matchups by adding another blitzer.
Speaker 1: What you do is now get one on ones for
Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence, you get him from Alden Smith, and
Speaker 1: now you're hoping those guys can win. We saw after
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott went out. I think Mike Nolan wrapped up
Speaker 1: the pressure package a little more because you no longer
Speaker 1: have the luxury of the offense scoring points and now
Speaker 1: the onus is really on the defense to get stops.
Speaker 1: I think he has to have that same urgency in
Speaker 1: this game to be able to contain this offense. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the offensive line and
Speaker 1: the defensive line matchup there. With the Cowboys losing defensive
Speaker 1: tackle Tristan Hill, is are you expecting there to be
Speaker 1: a big drop off between the guys who they have
Speaker 1: right now and they can plug in. Basically, what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to ask, is this a game where Tristan Hill's
Speaker 1: absence is going to be really reflected on the field,
Speaker 1: or is this a game where the Cowboys can just
Speaker 1: figure it out based on the fact that they're facing
Speaker 1: an offensive line that is not as great. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they have to figure it out regards to
Speaker 1: the team to their face. And then they're lucky because
Speaker 1: they don't have a dominant offensive line in front of them,
Speaker 1: meaning they don't have maulers and masters at the point
Speaker 1: of attack. They really want to move bodies off the ball.
Speaker 1: This is an interesting unit from the Cowboys because Kristen Hill,
Speaker 1: like say what you want to say about like the
Speaker 1: dirty playing, the penalties and some of the other stuff.
Speaker 1: He was getting a great effort and he was playing hard.
Speaker 1: His play certainly surpasses what the Cowboys have been getting
Speaker 1: from Don Terry Pope. And so now you're digging deep
Speaker 1: and you need to figure out Neville Gallimore. Who else
Speaker 1: can come in and give contributions and try and make
Speaker 1: an impact on the inside. But really, I think the
Speaker 1: guy who has to have to spotlight on him is
Speaker 1: you expected more from Don Terry Pope on the inside,
Speaker 1: particularly as a run stuffer. He has to take his
Speaker 1: game up a notch because they're going to need all
Speaker 1: hands on deck to be able to get this thing
Speaker 1: done with this defense. And my hater, if I don't like,
Speaker 1: I struggle to see a way that the Cowboys can
Speaker 1: really limit DeAndre Hopkins, Like, it's easy to say double them,
Speaker 1: but with the miscommunication problems we've seen between the corners
Speaker 1: and the safeties and this defense, I mean, are you
Speaker 1: really are you really accomplishing that much even if you
Speaker 1: do double them? And I'm looking at the stats and
Speaker 1: I see Carolina held them to seven catches for forty
Speaker 1: one yards. But I just I basically don't think that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can pull that off. Am I wrong? I
Speaker 1: mean they can pull it off like so without going
Speaker 1: to deepen the weeds. In terms of the scheme, Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan wants to play a quarters defense. Many you split
Speaker 1: the field quarter quarter quarter with the corners the safeties,
Speaker 1: and they kind of split it that way. There's some
Speaker 1: matchup man to man principles, and that the cousin of
Speaker 1: quarters is what they call quarter quarter a half, meaning
Speaker 1: on the field side the way side of the field,
Speaker 1: they're playing quarters into the boundary. They're playing almost like
Speaker 1: they're playing cover two. So in that defense, what you
Speaker 1: can do is you can play man to man on
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins with a safety overtop and play zone on
Speaker 1: the other side. Now, I would like to think that
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan has that in his bag, because typically when
Speaker 1: you put in quarters, you put in cover two, and
Speaker 1: then that gives you the ability to play cover six
Speaker 1: or Cover eight, however you want to call it. So
Speaker 1: I would think that that is in their bag. It's
Speaker 1: just a matter of does he trust his young guys
Speaker 1: to be able to play a combination defense to take
Speaker 1: away DeAndre Hopkins the thing that you worry about. Typically
Speaker 1: from a defensive standpoint, you don't want the stars to
Speaker 1: beat you. You don't want DeAndre Hopkins to single handedly
Speaker 1: have a two hundred yard day to beat you. So
Speaker 1: if you can eliminate him or just neutralize him and
Speaker 1: make them go somewhere else, you can live with a
Speaker 1: loss if someone else beats you. But it is insanity
Speaker 1: if you're going to allow DeAndre Hopkins to go one
Speaker 1: on one with Trayvon Diggs and Anthony Brown and expect
Speaker 1: those guys to hold up without help. I just I
Speaker 1: think that's a flaw strategy if that's the one that
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan employs. But you rather have and the best
Speaker 1: receiver in the league with an Hall of Famer who
Speaker 1: doesn't have it anymore. In a dynamic, I guess slot guy,
Speaker 1: punt returner or three an receivers on the other side,
Speaker 1: I mean, what would you rather have Cardinals or Cowboys receiving? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take, I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take the
Speaker 1: three a's. But the problem is, like it doesn't come
Speaker 1: with the automatic quarterback in the package, like with the
Speaker 1: Tory bout, Like you don't get the quarterback with it.
Speaker 1: And so if you told me that I was gonna
Speaker 1: an a level quarterback with the three as, I would
Speaker 1: take it. The only thing that I would say in
Speaker 1: comparing the group, DeAndre Hopkins highs exceed what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: A's have shown to this point. Almari Cooper has had
Speaker 1: some moments, but DeAndre Hopkins for the last three or
Speaker 1: four years has been in the conversation for being number
Speaker 1: one in the league at that position. And I am
Speaker 1: not necessarily the biggest DeAndre Hopkins fans because when I
Speaker 1: watched him at Houston, I thought he was more of
Speaker 1: a possession receiver. He didn't really create separation. But after
Speaker 1: a while, when you see tape after tape for tape
Speaker 1: where he is coming down with these acrobatic catches and
Speaker 1: these fifty fifty balls, you have to give him his
Speaker 1: due he typically is not a great run after catch guy,
Speaker 1: but he does have some dominant stuff. But I think
Speaker 1: this is a very compelling matchup when it comes to
Speaker 1: what kind of wide receiver corp would you want? Do
Speaker 1: you want three guys that can take turns dominating or
Speaker 1: do you want a guy that you know it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a Lebron James where I know he's going
Speaker 1: to get me a triple double and I know I
Speaker 1: can count on that each and every week. Well, you
Speaker 1: say that he's not a great run after catch guy,
Speaker 1: I think Dave and I both remember him. He's been
Speaker 1: in three of the Cowboys there and on his way
Speaker 1: to win. Yeah, but as soon as go ahead day
Speaker 1: the overtime game, because it was some of the best
Speaker 1: jack I can remember. So yeah, And when I said yeah,
Speaker 1: when I say that about his jack yards, he's really
Speaker 1: kind of a hercu jerky runner playmaker with the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands. Like unlike like when Daz Bryant was
Speaker 1: in Dallas, Das was like a physical specimen that just
Speaker 1: kind of ran through arm tackles or whatever. DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: isn't Dad, so I guess he's kind of sneaky with
Speaker 1: the rock in his hands. Maybe that's why I don't
Speaker 1: give him that added love or whatever. He's definitely one
Speaker 1: of the top two or three receivers in the game. Derek,
Speaker 1: you and I kind of looked at each other. We
Speaker 1: probably have the same question here about when you said
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have the A level quarterback anymore than
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't. What is the grade on their quarterback?
Speaker 1: Exactly where I was going, give me, give me this
Speaker 1: you're talking about going from yeah, talking about the red rifle, Yeah,
Speaker 1: talking about which one the red right? Talking about Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton Dalton? Okay, So so here here's the thing. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing with here's the thing with Andy Dalton. If
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is able to play on script and on rhythm,
Speaker 1: he can play at a B plus A minus love,
Speaker 1: meaning that if he is a to play catch rock
Speaker 1: and throw football where he is not under the rest
Speaker 1: and he is able to just like get the ball out,
Speaker 1: he's terrific. If he is under pressure or if he
Speaker 1: is forced to improvise, that's when his game falls off.
Speaker 1: In Cincinnati, when they had that fortress of an offensive
Speaker 1: line and they were playing at their best, Ned Whitworth
Speaker 1: and Andrey Smith and those guys. Andy Dalton was a
Speaker 1: three time pro bowler. As they began to lose some
Speaker 1: of that upfront, his game decline. But make no mistake,
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton could back last year, should have been the
Speaker 1: starter for Cincinnati the entire time, and he certainly can
Speaker 1: start and play well. The thing will be and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that Kellen Moore has now thought about his comments.
Speaker 1: He was like, Oh, I don't think we need to
Speaker 1: tweaker offense. We can just play as is and talking
Speaker 1: to people. And I got this directly from Hugh Jackson.
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson had told me when Andy Dalton was drafted
Speaker 1: out of TCU the reason they took Giovanni Bernard over
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy at running back is because Andy Dalton is
Speaker 1: a shotgun spread quarterback. If you ask Andy Dalton to
Speaker 1: go up under center to turn his back to the defense,
Speaker 1: he doesn't do that as well because he has always
Speaker 1: played in shotgun and always done those things. It's not
Speaker 1: a coincidence on Sunday when he had the month bot snapped.
Speaker 1: He can do it, but he's not at his best
Speaker 1: doing that. So how much with the Cowboys living the
Speaker 1: shotgun because that is what Andy Dalton has done, and
Speaker 1: can they get the running game with Zeke out of
Speaker 1: the shotgun as opposed to in the eye running traditional
Speaker 1: downhill sets. I think that is the thing to look
Speaker 1: for if they go seventy shotgun. Andy Dalton should be
Speaker 1: at his best, but now it's on that offensive line
Speaker 1: to make sure they can protect him enough where you
Speaker 1: can get the ball out within his first and second read.
Speaker 1: You don't want him running around man. Really, really great information,
Speaker 1: real quick before we let you guy, yet, have one
Speaker 1: other question for you. We talked a lot about, or
Speaker 1: you talked a lot about Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: Based on what you've seen from this Dallas defense through
Speaker 1: five games, who do you suspect will be a bigger
Speaker 1: problem for them? Kyler Murray, particularly Klin Murray running or
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins down the field. Cayler Murray is the bigger problem.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is the bigger problem because you can call
Speaker 1: the perfect defense where everybody's covered up, and then he
Speaker 1: can take off and do those things. And this will
Speaker 1: be when we have an opportunity to see if the
Speaker 1: effort changes, because Kyler Murray is going to force the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to play longer downs, So will Order Smith and
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence and Everson Griffin, will they chase and give
Speaker 1: a seven eight second effort if he's running around? And
Speaker 1: can they do it when the Cardinals elect to go
Speaker 1: up tempo and they keep that front four on the
Speaker 1: field for five, six, seven plays in a row. Because
Speaker 1: based on the way you've seen the effort, I would
Speaker 1: think Kingsbury will turn up the tempo a little bit
Speaker 1: to see if he can tire them out and see
Speaker 1: will they continue to pursue and push or where they
Speaker 1: kind of gas out and become fatigued. So this will
Speaker 1: really be um an opportunity to see how far this
Speaker 1: defense has grown from the Cleveland game in terms of
Speaker 1: their effort and energy expenditure. All right, Bucky Man, we'll
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. Really great information. We'll see you
Speaker 1: again tomorrow. We're gonna talk a little bit more about
Speaker 1: this Arizona team, but we'll talk about the Arizona defense
Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys offense. We're gonna take our first break.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the second segment of the Break Life
Speaker 1: in the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. We finished
Speaker 1: our segment with Bucky Brooks now, I've got some questions
Speaker 1: for you guys talking about the Cowboys defense and how
Speaker 1: it matches up with this Arizona offense. Right now, Arizona
Speaker 1: is ranked sixth in the NFL and rushing offense putting
Speaker 1: up seven hundred and five yards per game. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm seven hundred and five yards total, one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty one yards per game on the ground. Do you
Speaker 1: think Dallas has solved their issues stopping the run after
Speaker 1: holding the Giants only eighty nine yards rushing or was
Speaker 1: that just a function of playing the Giants? Nick, let's
Speaker 1: start with you. Well, I just I think those stats
Speaker 1: are skewed. I mean, what the Giants were doing and
Speaker 1: what teams typically do to run the ball with the
Speaker 1: Browns certainly did, is not what's getting seven hundred yards
Speaker 1: rushing for at the Cardinals. I think I bet you
Speaker 1: half of those rushing yards or designed passes. Maybe not
Speaker 1: that many, but but I do know that a lot
Speaker 1: of those yards are Kyler Murray he's up there and
Speaker 1: the leaders of rushes he is right now. Kenyan Drake
Speaker 1: leads them with three hundred and fourteen. He has two
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety six, so not very far behind and
Speaker 1: he's done it one half the almost half the attempts,
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, you could say, yeah,
Speaker 1: they could be the best run defense in the league,
Speaker 1: but he's going to present a different challenge, so it's
Speaker 1: hard to kind of say that they've figured it out.
Speaker 1: I think that the Cardinals won't hurt him that bad
Speaker 1: running between the tackles, but he will be the one
Speaker 1: that hurts him amber well. To be honest, I have
Speaker 1: zero trust in the Dallas Cowboys running defense. I don't
Speaker 1: trust them at all. The game against the Giants. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of get excited about anything about
Speaker 1: that game just because you were playing against the Giants
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals are not that you know. I think
Speaker 1: they're a better team than the Giants for sure, but
Speaker 1: it's not like they've been having a great season either.
Speaker 1: So I hope that is not a game where the
Speaker 1: running game is going to absolutely kill the defense. But
Speaker 1: I just right now, I don't trust the Cowboys defense
Speaker 1: to stop the run. Dave. I meant to bring this
Speaker 1: up to Bucky. I mentioned, like Kenyan Drake, he's not
Speaker 1: playing all that well for being like their number one
Speaker 1: back and the guy that they traded for from Miami.
Speaker 1: But I do wonder if they turned towards Chase Edmonds
Speaker 1: a little bit more in this game, because he seems
Speaker 1: to be having much more production when he is getting
Speaker 1: the touches. He hasn't gotten a whole lot of them
Speaker 1: to this point in the season. Maybe this is a
Speaker 1: week where they try that out. But overall, I do
Speaker 1: agree with Nick. I'm just I'm terrified of Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: and I think I said I said the week of
Speaker 1: the Seattle game that you gotta put pressure on Russ
Speaker 1: because you can't let him sit back there because if
Speaker 1: you do, he'll pick you apart and he can also
Speaker 1: break out. I like what Bucky said a lot. I
Speaker 1: mean no disrespect to Kyler Murray. I'll take my chances
Speaker 1: that he can't hang in there and make plays from
Speaker 1: the pocket at this stage in his career. Like one
Speaker 1: day he will probably be able to do that, but
Speaker 1: he's still just a second year player early in his
Speaker 1: back in season. I would do everything in my power
Speaker 1: to keep him in the pocket, even if it means
Speaker 1: not pressuring him, because I think you set yourself up
Speaker 1: to lose this game if you give him sixty seventy
Speaker 1: eight easy rushing yards. The one thing I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit concerned about with that, though, is it's kind of
Speaker 1: similar to what you see when you see guys playing
Speaker 1: when they play that two gap scheme, when you're kind
Speaker 1: of waiting and kind of seeing where he's gonna go.
Speaker 1: I think for a guy like him that's that dynamic
Speaker 1: and that quick and that elusive, if you're waiting, he's gone,
Speaker 1: like you, if you're not coming at him and forcing
Speaker 1: the issue, then I think he's gone. I think he'll
Speaker 1: still find his way. Even if you can manage to
Speaker 1: just kind of keep him kind of in front of
Speaker 1: him and you're just kind of playing around there, just
Speaker 1: making sure he doesn't get away. I think that actually
Speaker 1: could work against you with a guy that's as elusive
Speaker 1: as he is. Yeah, And the scary part about that is,
Speaker 1: I mean Lockett and Metcalf, those guys are those are
Speaker 1: good receivers, but they're not as good as the cardinal guys.
Speaker 1: And so when when you sit back like that and
Speaker 1: kind of let him find a receiver, I mean it
Speaker 1: Hopkins doesn't need a lot of time to get opened.
Speaker 1: And Fitzgerald and Christian Kirk, I mean I don't know
Speaker 1: that that's scary because it's like, what do you do.
Speaker 1: You just go out and and let him refront all
Speaker 1: over you, or you just let him sit back there
Speaker 1: and and one of those guys will get open. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a cat and mouse game for sure,
Speaker 1: let's go to the But it is a true it's
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a pick your poison. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: there's one option that sounds that that's definitely gonna work.
Speaker 1: But between his size and his inexperience making reads at
Speaker 1: the NFL level, I'd rather ask him to do that
Speaker 1: than risk, you know, going after him missing out and
Speaker 1: now half the field is open for him to run.
Speaker 1: I just I think that's a recipe for disaster. And
Speaker 1: it's you're totally right. If you hang back there and
Speaker 1: don't try too hard to pressure him, somebody will be open.
Speaker 1: But maybe you can clog those throwing lanes or Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Dave. I agree with you that
Speaker 1: it's a pick your poison because I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a great answer here either way. But but you know, maybe,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's the answer, is that they'll have to
Speaker 1: do a lot of different things. They'll do that a
Speaker 1: little bit, and other times that they'll they'll try to
Speaker 1: pressure him a little bit, blitz a little bit. As
Speaker 1: Bucky was saying, I think you got to try to
Speaker 1: keep him off guard more than anything else and not
Speaker 1: let him know or get comfortable with what's going to
Speaker 1: be coming his way. But speaking about these receivers, the
Speaker 1: vast majority of they're receiving yards. Obviously going to Hopkins,
Speaker 1: he asked five hund twenty eight receiving yards. The next
Speaker 1: closest guys Christian Kirk at one hundred and fifty four,
Speaker 1: and let's not forget they've got the great one Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald over there as well. That all being said, do
Speaker 1: you think the Cowboys are capable? And then this question
Speaker 1: was asked to Bucky. I want you guys to answer it.
Speaker 1: Are they capable of stopping a guy like DeAndre Hoppins,
Speaker 1: who I believe is the best wide receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's really even close when you
Speaker 1: look at his production over these years of his career.
Speaker 1: Even with bad quarterbacks, most receivers don't do that. He
Speaker 1: has done that consistently. Let's start first of you Dave. No,
Speaker 1: that's that's why I asked that question. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think they're capable of it. They haven't proven that they're
Speaker 1: capable of it. Um, you know that's Bucky. Bucky mentioned quarters.
Speaker 1: I believe it was quarters that they were running on
Speaker 1: the first Tyler Lockett play and the safety in the
Speaker 1: cornerback just sort of watched him run past them. And
Speaker 1: now you're you know Bucky was. I was like, my
Speaker 1: head was spinning when he was talking about playing combo coverages,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what if we've seen that makes us
Speaker 1: think that they can run that successfully? I don't like.
Speaker 1: That's kind of my point is you shade a safety
Speaker 1: over to DeAndre Hopkins' side of the field, Like, do
Speaker 1: you really feel like you accomplished all that much based
Speaker 1: on what we've seen? I don't, Dave. That was so
Speaker 1: like before Stephen Parker got in the lineup. I mean like, you're, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, You're right. Sorry, what do you think? I
Speaker 1: will say, Oh, no, good, Dave. I will say I
Speaker 1: slightly disagree with the point Nick made a minute ago,
Speaker 1: which is that I think I'll take the Seahawks receiver
Speaker 1: corps as a whole over Arizona's. Honestly, I think you know, Kirk,
Speaker 1: Kirk and Fitzgerald are good players, but overall, I think
Speaker 1: that you know, Metcalf, Lockett and even David Moore bring
Speaker 1: a little bit more firepower at this stage of their careers.
Speaker 1: But DeAndre Hopkins, I agree. I think he's the best
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL, and I just don't know that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can can keep pace with that. And even
Speaker 1: if they do, you're dedicating so many resources to it
Speaker 1: that somebody else is going to take button. But I'll
Speaker 1: challenge you back on that. You would take probably any
Speaker 1: three receivers if you've got Russell Wilson as the quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, as long as you've got a pretty good
Speaker 1: receiver there, I think. And that's the thing I think
Speaker 1: Russell is making. I don't think Metcalf and Locket, they
Speaker 1: weren't drafted super high. I don't think that they would
Speaker 1: have the success there have if it wasn't for a
Speaker 1: guy like Russell Wilson. That is what Why are you
Speaker 1: looking at me like that? I kind of disagree with that.
Speaker 1: I think I think you think those two guys would
Speaker 1: be okay. If Daniel Jones Oh, but let's put it
Speaker 1: in context. If they were in Dallas, I think they
Speaker 1: would be as good as the receivers that are in Dallas.
Speaker 1: So again, I think Metcalf, I think Metcalf is gonna
Speaker 1: be I think he already is very very good. Now.
Speaker 1: I already think he's very very good. And I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a point when he's among the very
Speaker 1: best squide receivers in the NFL. But I think he's
Speaker 1: already very close to that. And it helps, You're right,
Speaker 1: it helps that he's with Russell Wilson. But I think
Speaker 1: you put him with a lot of other quarterbacks around
Speaker 1: this league, he'd be doing the exact same thing. Now,
Speaker 1: you can't just put him with anybody. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: put him with good quarterbacks, I think you'd be doing
Speaker 1: the same thing. That's why Hopkins to me, is the
Speaker 1: best exactly. And if not, it's Michael Thomas. Both of
Speaker 1: them are right there because they both have proven that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who the quarterback is, they're still gonna fall out.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about, Michael Thomas when when Bridgewater
Speaker 1: came in the game, he did, But we see what
Speaker 1: Bridgewater doing Carolina. He's not a He's not just chop beef.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a good quarterback brisket. Ever, what do
Speaker 1: you think about these receivers? Can the Cowboys stop him? Well,
Speaker 1: no simple answer, No. I think the Cowboys have faced
Speaker 1: players wide receivers are I believe, are much less talented
Speaker 1: than Hopkins. I do believe Hopkins is the best wide
Speaker 1: receiver in the entire league. And the first time I
Speaker 1: watched him play, I was just like, what a receiver
Speaker 1: can play like this? What is this? So it's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough, especially when when you talk about a defense
Speaker 1: that has been so on cart where the secondary players
Speaker 1: just don't they just don't flow, you know, their game
Speaker 1: just doesn't flow. They seem confused at times. So it's
Speaker 1: gonna be really really hard to find someone that can
Speaker 1: really match up to him. And I just don't see
Speaker 1: any player that has shown the skills at least this
Speaker 1: year to where it would be a good matchup against Hopkins.
Speaker 1: And I do think that Tristan Hill, I mean I
Speaker 1: think that's that You're gonna notice that pretty bad. In
Speaker 1: the defensive line, the Cowboys or have been struggling, especially
Speaker 1: at the tackle position this whole year, and now you
Speaker 1: get to lose a guy like Tristan Hill, who who
Speaker 1: was at least trying and doing his best, and I
Speaker 1: do think there's gonna be a drop off there, and
Speaker 1: that's obviously gonna affect what happens with the secondary and
Speaker 1: how the white receivers are going to perform in this game.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be tough. Oh my, how times have changed.
Speaker 1: We go back to last year what we were all
Speaker 1: were saying about Tristan Hill, and now we're at a
Speaker 1: point where we're like, hey, you can kind of miss
Speaker 1: Triston Hill. Let's see about that. Because I do think
Speaker 1: Neville Gallimore, I mean, he's he's a he's a young guy,
Speaker 1: but I mean he showed a little bit at the
Speaker 1: end of that game. I don't know. I think Tristan
Speaker 1: Hill is just so raw, like he's he reminds me
Speaker 1: a little bit of Randy Gregory in the sense of
Speaker 1: like when he's good, like you notice him, but he
Speaker 1: also is just not there with all the techniques and
Speaker 1: all the things that you want him to be, and
Speaker 1: so that sometimes he can get pushed around because he's
Speaker 1: just a technique isn't there, And it's it's unfortunate that that.
Speaker 1: I mean a couple of reasons. It's unfortunate that he's
Speaker 1: out for the year because you know, he's right there
Speaker 1: in the middle, he's starting. He also he's getting better
Speaker 1: as a player. It's also unfortunate that, I mean, nobody
Speaker 1: was talking about Tristan Hill's injury getting carted off the field,
Speaker 1: you know. And one more thing, Dave made a great
Speaker 1: point yesterday. Look at all the people that sprinted over
Speaker 1: there to say hi, you know dad support day. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can tell that that doesn't always happen because he
Speaker 1: was carted off the field, and I don't I think
Speaker 1: Don Tarry Poe went over there, but I don't, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, nobody was running off the bench,
Speaker 1: and that she also has a function of the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But it's the face of the franchise. That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna take our final break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, I want to talk about two players that
Speaker 1: are seemingly based upon last week, going in opposite directions.
Speaker 1: You got Jalen Smithy, you got Don Terry Poe. We'll
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Speaker 1: I did want to talk about two particular players on
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense that seemed to be going in opposite directions.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. I mean, we all have talked about it
Speaker 1: over these last few weeks. We didn't think he was
Speaker 1: playing very well. Last week, I thought he played his
Speaker 1: best game in the season. It may have been among
Speaker 1: one of the best games you've had in his career
Speaker 1: here in Dallas. He had fourteen tackles, he had half
Speaker 1: a sack, he had three tackles for a loss, and
Speaker 1: he had two quarterback hits. Um, my question for you
Speaker 1: guys is what did you think of the performance overall
Speaker 1: and what do you think was different? If you think
Speaker 1: he was really much better this week and he'd been
Speaker 1: in past weeks, what do you think was it a difference.
Speaker 1: Let's start first with you, Dave. I think I said
Speaker 1: this yesterday. I mean, he did play great, he had
Speaker 1: a great game, but I got to see it against
Speaker 1: a non New York Giants team. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's all because the Giants suck, but I've just I've
Speaker 1: seen him get exploited by three or four good teams,
Speaker 1: and I saw him play really well against one bad team.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where my head's at, and there's
Speaker 1: no time like the present because somebody's going to have
Speaker 1: to do something about this very mobile quarterback and a
Speaker 1: lot of times that falls on linebackers, So this is
Speaker 1: gonna be again another big challenge for him to step up.
Speaker 1: Amber what do you think. I agree with everything that
Speaker 1: they've said, and I said it too, like it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to get excited about anything that happened in
Speaker 1: the game against the Giants. I mean, good that we
Speaker 1: got to see little sparks here and there, and I
Speaker 1: hope that he's able to carry that into this week
Speaker 1: and moving forward. But when you talk about the defense
Speaker 1: overall and trying to stop the running back and all that,
Speaker 1: I still think that Jaylen is still the best guy
Speaker 1: to take that job and be in charge, because who
Speaker 1: else do you really have on defense that can actually
Speaker 1: be effective. I was pretty excited to finally be able
Speaker 1: to get to get to see some of Francis Bernard,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I completely forgot about him too.
Speaker 1: I don't remember I can't remember seeing any play where
Speaker 1: he's stuck out to me, So it's just hard because
Speaker 1: you don't really have anyone else on that area. That
Speaker 1: can be better than Jaylen. Right now, real quick, Nick,
Speaker 1: before you answer that question, can you tell us what
Speaker 1: are you expecting from Layton band? Because I know we've
Speaker 1: talked a lot about Jayalen, but is this the week
Speaker 1: that maybe we see Layton return to the lineup And
Speaker 1: if he does, how much does that affect? How much
Speaker 1: does that help this team and also helped Jaylen? Well,
Speaker 1: you know they haven't practiced yet. Um, it's Wednesday. They
Speaker 1: tomorrow it will be like their normal Wednesday because they
Speaker 1: have the extra day, So we're gonna find out a
Speaker 1: little bit more of where he is tomorrow. Um. But
Speaker 1: but I just think that even so, even if he plays,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine him just going out there and playing
Speaker 1: every every snap. You know, I was looking at the
Speaker 1: total snaps on defense and there's uh three players that
Speaker 1: have played every snap and Jayalen Smith is one of them,
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs is another. I'm missing a third one. I
Speaker 1: can't remember who it is. One of the defensive end.
Speaker 1: It's not Well might is amazing if that is the case.
Speaker 1: But but but the point about Layton, I think he'll
Speaker 1: come back, Um, if he does play this week, and
Speaker 1: I think he can. I don't think he'll play as much.
Speaker 1: I think they'll rotate a little bit. You're not just
Speaker 1: gonna see Joe Thomas on the bench. Think they'll rotate
Speaker 1: as Dave likes to say, three for two spots. That
Speaker 1: was a different scheme, but I still think it will
Speaker 1: probably be similar. So let's flip to the other side
Speaker 1: of the coin. Don Terry Poe. This last game, he
Speaker 1: played thirty one to sixty eight defensive snaps. That's forty
Speaker 1: six percent of the defensive snaps. He had zero stats
Speaker 1: for the day, no tackles, no tackles for a loss,
Speaker 1: no quarterback hits, none of that. Zero stats. It's probable
Speaker 1: a liability for this team at this point. Nick, Let's
Speaker 1: start with you. Yeah, I don't know about liability. He's
Speaker 1: not playing well, but I mean it's not to me
Speaker 1: a liability is you know, then the backup comes in
Speaker 1: and he would be better. I don't think they have
Speaker 1: a guy that that's better. But yes, the defensive tackles,
Speaker 1: that is where they are. And it's not just him,
Speaker 1: but they're getting pushed around. They're getting pushed, but you
Speaker 1: at least expect him to get pushed around. He is
Speaker 1: a veteran guy, a big body guy. The last thing
Speaker 1: I expected when they signed him was that we'd be
Speaker 1: in week five talking about the fact that he's getting pushed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but again, and I know this is like a Mickey
Speaker 1: Spagnola favorite right here, but you do have to ask,
Speaker 1: you know, Atlanta, I guess, Carolina, you know, Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I mean, they did let the guy go, you know,
Speaker 1: and so maybe we should have thought about that a
Speaker 1: little bit more. Of course, you know, somebody let Lebron
Speaker 1: James go three times. But I'm just saying, so that happens.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I just think you're right, he's
Speaker 1: that whole defensive line's not playing well and you expected
Speaker 1: more from him. Amber. Well, what sucks is that every
Speaker 1: week I expect guys like him to be able to
Speaker 1: get better and it's just not happening. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: about to see six and still you don't see the
Speaker 1: kind of progress that you want to see it, and
Speaker 1: it's very disappointing. I don't I don't really know what
Speaker 1: exactly the issue is. I mean, the defense as a
Speaker 1: whole has been having plenty of issues and questions that
Speaker 1: have not being answered yet. So it's stuff. And then
Speaker 1: when you talk about, okay, who who are some guys
Speaker 1: that are going to replace him? I mean, do you
Speaker 1: move on to having someone step up that has less
Speaker 1: experience because at this time it doesn't seem like his
Speaker 1: experience is being utilized anyways. So it's it's a tough
Speaker 1: one now that you lost Tristan Hill and to think
Speaker 1: that maybe replacing him, that that's another element that maybe
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna take the younger guys to be
Speaker 1: able to step up. It's gonna take a little bit
Speaker 1: of time. It's not gonna be oh, let's plug this
Speaker 1: guy in and that's gonna fix the issue. So that's
Speaker 1: a that's a hard one there. Dave, is he is
Speaker 1: Dontry Poe a liability for this team at this point?
Speaker 1: Yes he is, And actually, to be fair to us,
Speaker 1: we definitely talked about it on this very podcast. Within
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks or maybe a month of Poe
Speaker 1: and Gerald McCoy signing, it got brought up that the
Speaker 1: Panthers started both of those guys last year and their
Speaker 1: run defense sucked, and it wasn't a case of them
Speaker 1: not having any linebackers. They had Keekley last year. They
Speaker 1: have Shack Thompson, So it definitely raised your eyebrows all
Speaker 1: the way back in the spring that, Hm, why wasn't
Speaker 1: the Panthers run defense any good? And you know, it
Speaker 1: doesn't really bother me that Don Taripo doesn't have stats.
Speaker 1: That's not his job. But his job is to not
Speaker 1: get blown off the ball and eat up blocks and
Speaker 1: he's not really doing that either. It seems like he
Speaker 1: gets pushed back a lot. I know that he weighs
Speaker 1: like three hundred and thirty pounds, but like he just
Speaker 1: he does not have the quickness of an NFL athlete
Speaker 1: when it comes to pursuit. You can see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a liability, and I think it's it's probably
Speaker 1: a fairly big part of why they have struggled at
Speaker 1: the run. Yeah, I mean I don't love the options
Speaker 1: behind him. I would have loved to given a look
Speaker 1: to Snax Harrison before he was gainfully employed somewhere else.
Speaker 1: Squad that doesn't seem like it's in the car. I mean,
Speaker 1: if they want to, if they want to do it,
Speaker 1: I'd be all in favor. But I don't get the
Speaker 1: impression that they think that's a priority right now. Um,
Speaker 1: I think it probably should be. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: yes today, I mean yes, I do. I do think
Speaker 1: it's a problem. And uh, you know, you can talk
Speaker 1: all you want about the three technique spot. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: give Neville Galla Morrison the more snaps. Maybe Tyrone Crawford
Speaker 1: can come on, but they don't have that guy that's
Speaker 1: eating up space on the line of scrimmage right now,
Speaker 1: and it was supposed to be Pope. You know you
Speaker 1: are going to see. I mean, I think Crawford plays
Speaker 1: defensive tackle now because the Cowboys after this game are
Speaker 1: adding another rusher and Randy Gregory, you know, he's a
Speaker 1: he'll be eligible to play after this game, and so
Speaker 1: that's another guy that because you're starting to see a
Speaker 1: lot of these defensive ends are sliding inside on third long.
Speaker 1: You're seeing it from saw. We also saw Austin Griffin,
Speaker 1: I think Smith, maybe a couple of all the Smiths,
Speaker 1: so you'll see that even more so. Definitely, I think
Speaker 1: Crawford plays the defensive tackle position once again, moving his
Speaker 1: you know position around. Yeah, I'm interested to see if
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks, if this continues with Poe,
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys do get to a point where they're
Speaker 1: just like, give me another body again. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: snacks would be better, but give it a try or
Speaker 1: and I'm saying not saying necessarily has to be him,
Speaker 1: But at some point, I wonder if the Cowboys get
Speaker 1: to a point where they just start looking for other bodies,
Speaker 1: because I do think he is a big problem for
Speaker 1: them right now, that would be interesting. What would be interesting,
Speaker 1: Dave knows where I'm going with this, Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: would be Oh, I know the minute you said it.
Speaker 1: I mean it would be interesting because what happens if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys cut down Tari Poe. I'm just saying from
Speaker 1: a national standpoint, i just wonder if the Cowboys do
Speaker 1: they does Jerry get face backlash on that? I mean,
Speaker 1: it would be it would be because he's not playing
Speaker 1: a good job. He's not playing good in the middle.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, you know what the narrative would be
Speaker 1: as well, And to be honest with you, I'm not
Speaker 1: even suggesting that they would cut him. What I'm suggesting
Speaker 1: is they have to get more bodies in here because
Speaker 1: right now, his big body isn't doing what it's supposed
Speaker 1: to do. So my point is and and by the way,
Speaker 1: I don't think you necessarily want to just let him
Speaker 1: go because you might still need him. Like that's the
Speaker 1: thing about COVID right now, you want to keep people around,
Speaker 1: not necessarily looking like you're not like the Jets, where
Speaker 1: you're just like, let's get rid of an abled bodied
Speaker 1: NFL veteran. UM. But I do think at some point
Speaker 1: they may have to look at some other options and say, hey,
Speaker 1: maybe Poe is better if he does less snaps. You know,
Speaker 1: right now he's doing almost fifty percent of snaps this
Speaker 1: last game. Maybe he's better at twenty five percent. Give
Speaker 1: me another body, and especially with Tristan Hill, now, maybe
Speaker 1: that's what they need to do. They might have. Um.
Speaker 1: We might have said this earlier in the week, but
Speaker 1: Justin Hamilton is on the practice squad. He's he's been
Speaker 1: in the NFL for three or four years. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's a pro bowler, but he's got some experience.
Speaker 1: I would give him. Put him. Let's see what happen, camp,
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. All. We appreciate you guys joining us.
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