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Speaker 1: keep podcasting. But today we will have John Schneider. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard of him. He just won

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Speaker 1: know the Drill. Subscribe to the podcast Apple Spotify, and

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for the video, you can check it

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Speaker 1: This is the NFL now, John, this is bigger than it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if you know any of our guys, No,

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Speaker 1: You were talking to you on the golf course about

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Speaker 1: how dialed in these guys are from a character standpoint,

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Speaker 1: like they're they're an impressive operation. It has a lot

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Speaker 1: of money.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the one of the we go to games because

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Speaker 7: we broadcast from the games, we'll do our radio show

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Speaker 7: because you know, we go into Dodger Baseball, so pregames

446
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Speaker 7: at six, we're on three to seven. We get that

447
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Speaker 7: last hour preempted, so we'll just do the show from

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Speaker 7: the stadium wireless.

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Speaker 4: My on the field. We know all the players. That's

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Speaker 4: pretty cool. It's really cool. It's not pretty cool.

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Speaker 7: It's really cool because they're good guys and sort of

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Speaker 7: one of the more viral social media conversations we had.

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Speaker 7: We were talking to Andrew Friedman and we brought up

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Speaker 7: I think the way we phrased the question was, you

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Speaker 7: know people saying that you just spend all this money,

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Speaker 7: feel like it's short changes, you know, scouting the work

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Speaker 7: the players put it. And he just lit up and

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Speaker 7: he's like it was like and it wasn't something that

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Speaker 7: I pre planned or anything. He was just almost like

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Speaker 7: a oh, thank you for asking me that he said,

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Speaker 7: and he did not hold back.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 7: I think it was during a Padre series, so you

464
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Speaker 7: got a little bit of a salty vibe already going there.

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Speaker 7: And he said, look, right behind me right now. What

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Speaker 7: do you see? He's like, there's Freddy Freeman digging out,

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Speaker 7: you know, with Dino Ebel, just working on digs. He's like,

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Speaker 7: where did you see Mooki Betts out here? Mouky Bets

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Speaker 7: was out here two hours ago fielding grounders at shortstops.

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Speaker 7: That's Mookie Bets and Freddie Freeman. That's every one of

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Speaker 7: our players. Look on that sideline. Look over there on

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Speaker 7: that baseline.

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Speaker 4: What do you see? Nobody's there. He's like, these guys

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Speaker 4: bust their ass.

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Speaker 7: He goes, you you run the They're only winning because

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Speaker 7: they're getting paid, and they're paying all this money. He said,

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Speaker 7: it's insulting to these guys because of how professional they

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Speaker 7: are and how hard they work. And that's what they've

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Speaker 7: done an incredible job of is they put together a

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Speaker 7: team and they didn't pay anyone until Mooki. They're like,

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Speaker 7: Muki's one of those guys man who's just so hyper

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Speaker 7: focused on being the greatest ever. And Freddy's the same way,

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Speaker 7: and Show has the same way, and Yamamoto with his javelins.

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Speaker 4: And all of that.

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Speaker 7: They're like, yeah, we'll give you guys hundreds of millions

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Speaker 7: of dollars, but we won't give it to everyone.

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Speaker 1: If you took Jim Harbaugh to a pre game and

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Speaker 1: you said you get to pick one guy to try

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Speaker 1: to make a football player, would he pick Muki or

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Speaker 1: could he pick Otani?

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Speaker 4: He'd pick Otani?

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Speaker 7: He would Otani's huge, Like you don't realize it until

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Speaker 7: he walks out, you know. And you know, a lot

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Speaker 7: of times we're just kind of leaning on the railing

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Speaker 7: of the dugout and here's where the guys are walking

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Speaker 7: out right next to you, so you're level with them,

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Speaker 7: right and for the most like, you know, that's what's

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Speaker 7: cool about baseball is Mookie's a slightly larger than me,

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Speaker 7: and I'm not a big guy obviously, you know. Whereas

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Speaker 7: like I remember David Exstein for the Angels, smaller than me,

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Speaker 7: and yet here's an ALCS MVP.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Dustin Pedroia, who I grew up close to in Woodland, California,

504
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Speaker 1: was like five eight, right, won the MVP.

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Speaker 4: Right, one an MVP you can do that.

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Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden you see Aaron Judge

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Speaker 7: or like Showe al Tany emerge from the dugout and

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Speaker 7: you're like, oh my god, like look how broad he is.

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Speaker 4: Look at how thick his trunk is.

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Speaker 7: Like then you see that and it's like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 7: that's that's a football player.

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Speaker 1: I remember it was like Sunday night baseball his first

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Speaker 1: year for the Angels, and he hit like a ball

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Speaker 1: off the wall and I remember him rounding for because

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Speaker 1: you know, you just do this guy, this like all

516
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Speaker 1: time talent from Japan. But we've had that before and

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Speaker 1: guys and he rounded first and it was like, holy shit,

518
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Speaker 1: look at him run right, you know, because we've had

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Speaker 1: some big boppers from Japan, but this the athletic ability,

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Speaker 1: like I mean, what would it forty time b probably

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Speaker 1: four or five.

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Speaker 4: It's it'd be ridiculous right at that size.

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Speaker 7: And then just kind of thinking about, you know, the

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Speaker 7: arms threat, like the idea of dropping Shohey into a

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Speaker 7: quarterback clinic for you know, two years or something like

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Speaker 7: he's built like Herbert. You know, he's that big, he's

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Speaker 7: you know, you think about justin Herbert, who's probably you know,

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Speaker 7: between he and I think maybe even more so just

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Speaker 7: from a muscular standpoint than Josh Allen. I think you'd

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Speaker 7: probably point to Herbert as hey, what's the best stature

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Speaker 7: best body QB in the NFL, and it's probably Justin

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Speaker 7: and like that's who he reminds me of.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about the Chargers. Yeah, how long you've

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Speaker 1: been doing their games?

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Speaker 4: Ten years? This is my tenth year.

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Speaker 1: So you did it before they moved a lot.

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Speaker 7: I did it the year they moved. It's crazy to

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Speaker 7: think they've been in LA. This will be their tenth

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Speaker 7: year since. Isn't that insane?

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Speaker 1: Ten years?

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Speaker 4: Twenty seventeen, Yeah, twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: So you're doing the games at the it was the

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Speaker 1: Home Depot Center.

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Speaker 4: Home Depot Center. Well was that like coolest thing ever?

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Speaker 7: Like it sucked with the fans because it was such

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Speaker 7: a small, premium priced experience, so you're spending pretty much

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Speaker 7: three hundred bucks on every time. Many people were in there,

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Speaker 7: twenty four thousand. That's pretty cool. It was incredible. Like

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Speaker 7: we're calling the games. It's like a high school stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: calling games at the top of the first section and

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Speaker 7: that's it. That's the top, and then on the opposite

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Speaker 7: side you actually have an upper deck.

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Speaker 1: That was it.

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Speaker 7: I told so many people friends of mine that are

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Speaker 7: scattered around the country as like, do yourself a favor,

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Speaker 7: fly to La, go to one of these games. It'll

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Speaker 7: never happen again. Like it'll never happen again. You can hear,

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Speaker 7: like from our broadcast booth, you could hear Rivers yelling

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Speaker 7: at the refs. You could hear the opposite sideline at

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Speaker 7: times screaming at each other. Like it was so intimate.

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Speaker 7: It was really really cool, but it was terrible for

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Speaker 7: the team.

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Speaker 2: Really quick.

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Speaker 1: How cool was the Philip Rivers moment this year?

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Speaker 4: The best?

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Speaker 1: That moment on Monday Night football. I know they lost,

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Speaker 1: but he was slinging it around. It's just I said

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Speaker 1: this about Sam Darnold the hockey team. We just don't

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Speaker 1: get that many genuine moments anymore. So it's listen to media.

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Speaker 1: I'm part of it, you're part of it. Some of

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Speaker 1: it's just like we talked too much about stuff that

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Speaker 1: was just like pure and cool. This forty five year

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Speaker 1: old guy probably weigh two hundred and eighty pounds.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just come back.

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Speaker 1: Knew the offense because he's been calling it his passion

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Speaker 1: and pride. Yeah, him getting hit, it's just like what

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Speaker 1: a bad how cool would have been to Ben on

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Speaker 1: his high school team. They showed the video of all

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Speaker 1: those kids a lotching What a moment, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: for his own families, some of these kids that were

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Speaker 1: younger don't remember.

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Speaker 4: He's the best guy. He's the best guy.

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Speaker 7: I know that he's got a bit of a polarizing personality,

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Speaker 7: especially if you're a rade I think you're a Bronco fan.

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Speaker 7: I think since he's retired, they recognize that there's only

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Speaker 7: one Philip Rivers man. You just you don't make him

587
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Speaker 7: like that, the guy that cared so much, that was

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Speaker 7: willing to get emotional about how much he cared. How

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Speaker 7: you talk to his teammates, like it'll be interesting if

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Speaker 7: he I think he seriously considered that Bill's job, and

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Speaker 7: I think they seriously considered him.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that was a joke.

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Speaker 7: I think he and Josh Allen really hit it off

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Speaker 7: and that was something that they were very serious about.

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Speaker 7: And just because he's that kind of guy. And so

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Speaker 7: I think when he takes his job, it's gonna be

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Speaker 7: fun to see how many of his former teammates he

598
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Speaker 7: puts on his staff because of just the respect they had,

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Speaker 7: Like you know, we have Nick Hardwick as our assistant

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Speaker 7: oel coach, his former center, like I have no doubt

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Speaker 7: he'll be like, where do you want me?

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Speaker 4: I'm there?

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Speaker 1: Were you there with? Was Kenny Wiggins on the team,

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Speaker 1: Remember that offensive lineman. He's a fresident steak guy. He

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Speaker 1: trying to think if he was he might have been

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Speaker 1: like fifteen sixteen seventeen, mate. I think he was right

607
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Speaker 1: before us, might have been San Diego. But he when

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Speaker 1: I was a jat Fresdel State, he was our tackle

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Speaker 1: and I remember texting with him and he's like, I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you how much I love Philip Rivers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it was just I've said forever what John Madden

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Speaker 1: had and even Gruden like you can't fake that, like

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Speaker 1: people kind of try. It's like they're just unique personalities.

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Speaker 1: I think Rivers, I'm glad, Like, if you're gonna be

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Speaker 1: a head coach, that's cool because you're part of our lives.

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Speaker 1: I think he could be a John Madden. John Gruden

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Speaker 1: put him up. He would be a rock star.

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Speaker 4: Called money. I believe the money that Amazon threw at

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Speaker 4: him was ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Oh they tried to get him.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, then it was ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: And like the the accommodations that they were going to

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Speaker 7: make for him, ridiculous, and just to speak to the

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Speaker 7: kind of guy he is, He's like, eh, gosh, Darner,

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Speaker 7: and I'd be short changing my guys. You know, I

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Speaker 7: appreciate you getting me back from himself Friday, but I

627
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 7: don't want to short change my guys being going on

628
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Speaker 7: Wednesday afternoon to Thursday night and they're like, well, charge,

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Speaker 7: are you playing back right after the game Thursday. You'll

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Speaker 7: be home, you know, middle of the night on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: You'll be good. Yeah, short change them kids, can't do it.

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Speaker 7: That's the kind of guy is man for like twenty

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Speaker 7: five million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: What's clear though, then is coming back and coach. And

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Speaker 1: he's gotten the juice to coach because you take a

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Speaker 1: head coaching, so that maybe he's not going to do

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Speaker 1: the John Madden thing and he's more likely to do

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Speaker 1: the Andy Reid thing.

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Speaker 4: I think so. I think so.

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Speaker 1: Say the next five years he's a head coach in

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Speaker 1: the NFL.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised if he's a head NFL. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I could see it. I wouldn't be surprised he's a

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Speaker 7: head coach. You know at NC State.

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Speaker 4: His son just committed. I got on the ticker yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean I could see that.

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Speaker 7: If you're NC state you want to have relevance, it's

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Speaker 7: it's a state with money. You know, you need people

649
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Speaker 7: to scratch out checks. You're going to write a check

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Speaker 7: to Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: How sick would that be? Philip Rivers the coach and

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Speaker 1: his son the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Credible.

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Speaker 1: They're like, we'll put Belichick on all these get no

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 7: It would What was Kenny Dillingham's famous line, can somebody

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Speaker 7: stroke me a check?

658
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Speaker 4: For twenty minute? Philip Rivers will get someone to stroke

659
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: a twenty million dollars show.

660
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: You know, people made funny Keny Dilley hams someone stroke

661
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: someone gave him a check that they got. He got money.

662
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: He said on a interview the other day.

663
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 4: I love Kenny.

664
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: People like a guy that wasn't even associate with Arizona State,

665
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: but a rich guy in Scottsdale gave him a bunch

666
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: of money and they're building the thing.

667
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 4: For that man.

668
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: I told my wife it worked.

669
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just such a great line.

670
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me there's.

671
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 4: Someone just stroke at twenty million dollars? I don't know.

672
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 7: Maybe you're traveling in circles that I'm not. It does

673
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 7: seem like could be kind of hard. But Kenny's awesome.

674
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: Okay, you talked about Herbert. You've seen all these games.

675
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: I've always supported him. He's an easy guy to root

676
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: for the playoffs games. I mean, this year he is

677
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: a broken hand the offensive line. It's hard, but he's

678
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: played three playoff games and hasn't gone well. I always

679
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: say people forget Peyton Manning. Like when I was young,

680
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: in like high school and college, everyone said he was

681
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: better than Tom Brady. Yeah, but then the playoffs would

682
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: start and Peyton man would be a trophy.

683
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people. I watched the Lway doc

684
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: he had.

685
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean in the Super Bowl against the forty nine ers,

686
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: granted they're like the greatest tyeam of all time, he

687
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: threw like one hundred yards. Yeah, it was like nine

688
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: of forty. So it's like, guys have bad games. He's young.

689
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: I would take it. You and DJ and all these

690
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: guys around him think that. And Jim Harbaugh most importantly,

691
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: like they ain't selling stock. No, No, he's well, why

692
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: has it happened? Well?

693
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 7: I think this year I think was different than last year.

694
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 7: Last year out on the Guiana chance. There's just there

695
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 7: was no chance. Will Anderson and Danielle Hunter and all

696
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 7: those guys were in his lap every time he took

697
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 7: a snap, like there was just even the tackles.

698
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 4: Slater and Alt were out there and even than they.

699
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: Were getting gassed.

700
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 7: Will Anderson's a problem, exactly. He was a huge So

701
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 7: for me, like that one was different.

702
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: This year.

703
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 7: I think that so much scar tissue had built up

704
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 7: over the year where there's just unblocked rushers, there's quick

705
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 7: pressures that by the time that playoff game came around,

706
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 7: it was just so like basically the success of the

707
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 7: offense was him operating out of structure.

708
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 4: That was it.

709
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 7: You know, it wasn't really anything else, you know, him

710
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 7: against the Eagles was run around. Yeah, It's like I'm

711
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 7: just gonna pull it and run. It wasn't a play call.

712
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 7: He's just pulling it and running it because nothing else

713
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 7: is working, because he can't get blocks, he has no

714
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 7: time in the pocket, he's wearing it, he's getting hit

715
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 7: god knows how many times. So I think it just

716
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 7: caught up to him in New England and I don't

717
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 7: think and I like Greg Roman a lot. I know

718
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 7: this is what people do right when they're about to

719
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 7: say something bad. But Greg's a great guy. I just

720
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 7: thought the game plan was very curious. It's like, you know,

721
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 7: you can gash these guys on the edges with a

722
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 7: run game, and yet they never ran it, Like they

723
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 7: just they got that turnover first and goal from the

724
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 7: ten and what is it? It's three runs by Justin Herbert.

725
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 7: It's like, what run to the edges. You know you've

726
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 7: got this Trevor Penny is your six ozer lineman, Tucker

727
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 7: Fisk is your tight end, Go beat him up. And

728
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 7: they just never did it. And so I think that

729
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 7: game got into his head and he missed some throws

730
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 7: and he wasn't good.

731
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean, had a bad game.

732
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 7: No, but they weren't you know, defensively they were sensational.

733
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 7: Offensively they weren't good. And I think that's what makes

734
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 7: this year so interesting.

735
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: What's weird about Roman is like historically back to his

736
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: forty nine er days with Harvilleah, then with Harbaugh's brother

737
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: in Baltimore is a run game guy.

738
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then this.

739
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: Year, you know, before the injuries really took, they were

740
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: passing all the time.

741
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

742
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: Do you think he was trying to prove like I'm

743
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: a pass guy or is it just like trying to rite.

744
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 4: What I think.

745
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 7: Unfortunately, it happens. It happens, and I think that's what

746
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 7: you know. I credit Harbaugh and the way that he

747
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 7: has coached his teams is he's always been so good

748
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 7: about it. He's like, I don't care. I'm gonna run

749
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 7: with a tight end who's got his hand on the ground.

750
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 7: I'm gonna run with a fullback. I'm gonna run power

751
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 7: God's play and guess what, You're not even gonna pass

752
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 7: them the second half, JJ McCarthy, We're gonna beat Penn

753
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 7: State by running the ball.

754
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: And I don't care.

755
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 7: If that doesn't lead to celebration in Sports Center highlights.

756
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 7: That's not what I'm here for. So I think it's

757
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 7: just very hard for OC's, especially in the era of

758
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 7: Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and Mike McDaniel, all of

759
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 7: this eye candy, it's very hard for them to just

760
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 7: be a power team.

761
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: You know.

762
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: I think I think I saw a clip maybe Mike's

763
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: McDaniel's first or second day you were sitting down with him,

764
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: what you're thought of just the Mike experience, So far.

765
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a really cool guy.

766
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: Man.

767
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 7: He's a very thoughtful, interesting guy. You ask him a

768
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 7: question and it's not dismissive. It's very thoughtful about you know.

769
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 7: And I think that just kind of speaks to how

770
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 7: into football he is. I think he and Jim are

771
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 7: a lot more similar than people think. You know, they're

772
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 7: just different about it. Jim, it looked different. It looked different. Yeah,

773
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 7: you know, I think Jim loves I think coach Harbout

774
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 7: loves the physicality of football, the idea of you know, ultimately,

775
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 7: what is football. Football is preventing forward progress. That's what

776
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 7: it is. You know, this guy's trying to go here.

777
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 7: You're trying to make sure he doesn't. And I think

778
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 7: Jim loves that, you know that, whereas I think Mike

779
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 7: McDaniel is. He gave a great answer. I think it

780
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 7: was in that interview. I don't remember if it was

781
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 7: the presser or if it was with us, but I'd

782
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 7: never heard someone say it before, and maybe you have

783
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 7: that it was so it crystallized it. He said, the

784
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 7: defense is trying to guess the answer to your question.

785
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 7: As an offensive coordinator, I'm delivering a question and they're

786
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 7: trying to answer it, and I've got to devise the hardest.

787
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: Question for them to answer.

788
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 7: And it's just such a great way to think about

789
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 7: prestap motion different formations, you know, using players like Darren

790
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 7: Waller was talking about putting a slot receiver in the backfield,

791
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 7: because now the question is more complex, it's not the same.

792
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: And so I think when you have someone that's.

793
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 7: Thought about football and thinks about football that way, like,

794
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 7: I need to make this as hard on them as possible,

795
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 7: and hardbos's the same way.

796
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 4: I need to make this on as hard as them

797
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: as possible.

798
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: I think people when they look at Mike, you know,

799
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: he's this nerdy Ivy League guy. His football career really

800
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: took off, and he's even said this is he's with

801
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Kyle and that whole crew, and he realizes these guys,

802
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: like I gotta find a niche with these guys. So

803
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: he got with Chris Forrester, who's Kyle's OH line coach,

804
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: and learned the run game and blocking. That's kind of

805
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: his bread. Yeah, Like if you talk to us Jack

806
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: or Kittle, they swear by the guy. So when you

807
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: say he's a lot like Jim Harbo, when Jim Harbaugh said,

808
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: we took Joel because he's a tip of the spirit.

809
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: People are like, he's a weapon. Yeah, You're like, well,

810
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: no weapons are Malik neighbors Man. Harbaugh's like, no weapons

811
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: are my tackles and my guards are my centers. I

812
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: think Mike thinks more like that than people. I think

813
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: the Miami thing is like throwing people off the center.

814
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 7: Yeah it I'm with you, man, I ultimately, And and

815
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 7: to that, Matt you know, to that, think about Sean McVay.

816
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 7: Sean McVay is a run guy. Like it's outside zone, man.

817
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 7: That is that is the foundation of the Rams offense.

818
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 7: It's Todd Gurley, It's this last year. It's Kyron Williams. Man,

819
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 7: it's and you you look at the way he's now

820
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 7: drafted offensive lineman.

821
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 4: He's kind of even gone.

822
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 7: From those smaller, more athletic guys like Mike McDaniel had

823
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 7: in Miami too. He's got freaking beef on that line

824
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 7: now and they're starting to run a little bit more power.

825
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: So I do think that, And I mean, my.

826
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 7: Gosh, look at Kyle at San Francisco, right, Kyle run

827
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 7: it every play.

828
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: Kyle is like a skinnier younger version of Jim Right.

829
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 7: You know, like that's what people I think forget because

830
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 7: the I candy is pretty cool and the explosives are

831
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 7: pretty cool, but when you boil it down, they're run guys.

832
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 1: Is that a Chargers deficiency right now? Some skill guys.

833
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 7: So I mean biased, not selfishly, but as with my bias, no,

834
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 7: I really like the room. I think Lad's a legitimate

835
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 7: number one receiver. He could end up with Jalen Waddle

836
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 7: like seventeen hundred yard eight touchdown season.

837
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: It wouldn't surprise me. He is.

838
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 7: He's so good. He's so good in the open field.

839
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 7: He always whips out of catches Jayson. Yeah, Like he'll

840
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 7: whip out of catches and gets you in extra ten

841
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 7: yards every single time. And he's become so proficient at

842
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 7: finding soft spots in zones now. You know, before it

843
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 7: was a lot of just man beater. He'll just be

844
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 7: you got no chance, man, He's gonna shake you, and

845
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 7: that's when he whips out and he's got those extra

846
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 7: ten yards. Now he's Last year we saw him start

847
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 7: to settle into his zones and kind of feel it

848
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 7: out a little bit more. So I think he could

849
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 7: have a sensational year and second year. Guy doesn't have

850
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 7: a lot of stats. Nobody would know him unless you

851
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 7: follow the Chargers. Trey Harris, he's going to be special

852
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 7: Ole misk It. Yeah, he's going to be special man.

853
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 7: He blocks his tail off. Man, he will block like

854
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 7: a mother effort, and the players love him. He's crazy smart,

855
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 7: like stupid smart when you talk to him. Former quarterback

856
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 7: was Elik Neighbor's quarterback in high school and probably he's

857
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 7: a high school team right quit to play basketball because

858
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 7: he thought he was getting recruited to play ball. Milik

859
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 7: Neighbors came to him and said, we can win the

860
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 7: state championship, but I need you. Can you come back

861
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 7: and essentially sold him on the idea of I need

862
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 7: you too, man, like I'm going to get recruited, I

863
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 7: don't play basketball. And so that's like selfless sort of

864
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 7: behavior too. And I think that speaks to why here's

865
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 7: a guy who was an ex at ole miss and

866
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 7: now he's just being asked to block his ass off

867
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 7: every time he's on the field. He's got like fifteen

868
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 7: targets through eight games, and yet he's crushing dudes in

869
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 7: the run game.

870
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 4: I think it speaks to the type of player is.

871
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 7: So I say all of that to get to I

872
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 7: think he's gonna have a big year because I think m

873
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 7: Daniel's gonna love him.

874
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: One thing. By the time before Harbon Ortiz got there,

875
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: it felt like the synergy with you know, Tom and

876
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: Staley just was a little off. And then now I

877
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: was just getting a breakfast sandwich this morning and behind

878
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: Joe Ortiz, and it feels like Joe Ortiz and Jim Harbaugh,

879
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: you know the successful teams, you know, Veach Andy, Yeah, right,

880
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle John Lynch McVeigh lest you gotta have

881
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: some synergy with those two guys. Yeah, And it does

882
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: feel like a pretty good relationship because Jim he's mellowed

883
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: out a lot. Yeah, you know, he's a different guy

884
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: now than he was fifteen years ago, probably ten years ago.

885
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: He's actually kind of come into his own I feel like,

886
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: just very comfortable and the chip on his shoulder is

887
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: still there, but he doesn't show it as much. It

888
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: feels like they got a pretty good thing going those two,

889
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: which is important and the only way you can have

890
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: the same success even if you're as good of a

891
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: coach as Jim he's at the end with Trent Balke.

892
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: You around these guys, what's like your takeaway for a

893
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: couple of years being around that those two.

894
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the Yeah, I think the key with

895
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 7: GMS is and I thought Tom was really good at

896
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 7: this too, you know, with MOLT with different types of coaches.

897
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 7: You know, when I was there, Anthony Lynn was the

898
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 7: first coach and then it was Brandon Staley, and they

899
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 7: both were very different, and I thought Tom Tellesco worked

900
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 7: very close with them too. Not just how I'm gonna

901
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 7: pick the best guy and he's going to be a

902
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 7: pro bowler and it's going to look good for me.

903
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 7: I need to draft the right guy for my team.

904
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 7: And I think Joe and Jim have a very special

905
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 7: relationship like that of Yeah, I'm going to draft the

906
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 7: guy that you know, I think is going to a

907
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 7: be the best player over the next four years or

908
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 7: five years, that's what you're drafting them for, not just

909
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 7: this year, and be someone that has a chance to thrive,

910
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 7: that that is going to fit in with this group,

911
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 7: that has the right character, makeup, style of play, physicality.

912
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 7: It's a physical team. You know, you got to be

913
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 7: able to kick some ass to be a charger. Like

914
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,959
Speaker 7: when you look up Tu Lee, Khalil Mack. These guys

915
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 7: are physical. You know, Tier Tart as mean as hell.

916
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 4: You know that.

917
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 7: The same thing with Joe for his baby face. He's nasty.

918
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 7: He is a Yeah, Alt is a nasty and Rashaun

919
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 7: Slater is nasty as smart as he is. These are

920
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 7: nasty dudes, man. And so I think Joe has done

921
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 7: a really good job of drafting. And I think Lad

922
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 7: McConkie low key is that chip on the shoulder. Okay,

923
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 7: I'm a little white guy with curly hair and I

924
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 7: got my little Southern accent.

925
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: You think I'm a cute guy. No, man, he wants

926
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: to kick you.

927
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: Remember, guy, I played Georgia, the best team in the

928
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: country for years. I was the best receiver rockers like

929
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: we write the two guys. Yeah remember when we left

930
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: in the TL Like that was me.

931
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

932
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 4: So I think he does a great job of drafting

933
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 4: guys like that.

934
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: What's uh, Khalil Max a free agent? Right?

935
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 7: I would imagine they like Khalil Mack a lot. Yes,

936
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 7: they love older but he Tone Setter. Tone Cetter had

937
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 7: a great conversation with corner Tarheed Still, who was going

938
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 7: in at just finish his rookie year, and he had

939
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 7: mentioned that he was coming in the facility to work

940
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 7: out and Khalil was there, and.

941
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, it was cool. You know. I started

942
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 4: talking to.

943
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 7: Khalil and he was sort of helping me out, getting

944
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 7: me on a on a path, and then I came in.

945
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 4: It's like it was like a Tuesday.

946
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 7: I came in on Thursday, and because I was like,

947
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 7: where were you yesterday, He's like, oh, you know, I'm

948
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 7: doing Tuesday, Thursday, Friday right now. He's like okay, He's

949
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 7: like and I got the hint real quick. He's like,

950
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 7: and uh yeah. Ever since then, I've been coming in

951
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 7: seven days a week and I meet Khalil and we

952
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 7: work out together. And that's you want to know how

953
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 7: you can meet thirty four going on thirty five and

954
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 7: you're still one of the top ten. He's got likes

955
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 7: right exactly, And that's that's kind of going back to

956
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 7: our Dodger conversation. Khalil puts in the work man and

957
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 7: he's now like, I think Tooley's twenty three going into

958
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 7: his fourth year, twenty four. May I think he's gonna

959
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 7: be twenty four? Like talk about having a guy to

960
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 7: guide you and like too. He was probably the most

961
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 7: underrated d line mean in the league last year.

962
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: Guy at thirteen and a half sacks man.

963
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 7: Like in countless pressures he top ten and pressures can

964
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 7: play inside kick outside that NASCAR package with two Ley

965
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 7: on the inside at Mac and Away on the outside

966
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 7: and a fifty five percent pressure ragief like, that's all

967
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 7: Khalil Mack.

968
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 4: That's him setting the toe.

969
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: You'd expect them to be pretty aggressive trying.

970
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 7: To bring him back. I think that's what's the number.

971
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 7: Can we make it work. We got to resign Away.

972
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 7: We probably got to do an extension for Tuley so

973
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 7: he doesn't get the free agency next year. Let's can

974
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 7: we make that work? And I think Khalil he loves

975
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 7: southern California.

976
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 4: Man.

977
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 7: I see his kids running around the field all the time.

978
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 7: You know, there's certain guys that don't like it and

979
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 7: want to go back to Kansas and climbing their truck

980
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 7: and go hunting and stuff like that because that's what

981
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 7: they're into, or go back to Florida because that's what

982
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 7: they're into. I get the sense Khalil really likes so

983
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 7: I feel.

984
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: Like Khalil could be a movie star, you know, like

985
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: HOWI Long when he died a broken arrow idea. He's

986
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: such a good looking guy, he's enormous. Yep, got the

987
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger HOWI Long thing, got a great call. I mean,

988
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: I feel like Khalil Mack call at movies of change.

989
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 1: The action movies don't happen as much. But if if

990
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 1: this was the Heyday of like ninety five, I feel

991
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: like Khalil Mack would like have a machine re launch

992
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: Commando or something and be kicking everyone's ass.

993
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

994
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I'll get you out of here on this. You know,

995
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers are going to be a sexy

996
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: obviously free agency in the draft. Yeah, I think there's

997
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of momentum going into the season.

998
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: You know, the Super Bowls is so far Harbaugh third

999
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: year kind of really established his group. Yeah, I think

1000
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: they're going to be a team that a lot of people.

1001
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: The division's hard. I mean, the Raiders are surely going

1002
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: to be a little better, you think, and Denver Kansas

1003
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: City is kind of an outlier six win team.

1004
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: They're tough.

1005
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: What's the key to like figuring it out and getting

1006
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: over the hum.

1007
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's offense, you know, which is why

1008
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 7: the McDaniel higre are so exciting. You know, you look

1009
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 7: at the Patriots game. They allowed sixteen points. You know,

1010
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 7: it's like you got to win a playoff game when

1011
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 7: you lost. You think about like that Denver game in

1012
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 7: week team they had all backups right playing defense and

1013
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 7: they didn't allow a touchdown. And it's a team that

1014
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 7: was fighting for the number one seed and they did

1015
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 7: not allow a touchdown. So like, I feel great about

1016
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 7: the defense. Even though Jesse's gone, and I think the

1017
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 7: world that you see. I think he's going to be

1018
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 7: exceptional in Baltimore and do him the other day.

1019
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: He is not big, No, you would if you didn't

1020
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: know who he was, you would never think that's the

1021
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: head coach to the Baltimore right.

1022
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 7: And he looks very young. Yeah, he's got a very

1023
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 7: young face. He's so smart. He's gonna his pressers. I

1024
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 7: used to not a big press conference guy. You know,

1025
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 7: it's a lot of platitudes and non answer answers. Jesse

1026
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 7: was always great man, very thoughtful, articulate, answered with that,

1027
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 7: yeah we did that wrong, we should have done this.

1028
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 7: I could do this better. So he's going to be great.

1029
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 7: So you're gonna lose a lot with our defensive corner

1030
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 7: Chris O'Leary. So Chris was So it was interesting because

1031
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 7: we thought they would go in house just to try

1032
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 7: to keep the continuity, keep as many of the coaches

1033
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 7: in house as they could, which they did. Chris was

1034
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 7: the safety's coach in year one of Harbaugh, So came

1035
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 7: from Notre Dame Lat. Twenty four or twenty twenty four

1036
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 7: was his only year coaching in the NFL, coach safeties.

1037
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 7: So he's the one that was tasked with getting Derwin right, like, Hey,

1038
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 7: this is how I think we're gonna play you. We're

1039
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 7: gonna we're gonna predominantly feature us slot corner as a

1040
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 7: big nickel. We're going to play in some dime linebackers.

1041
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 7: So he basically was tasked with, let's make sure Derwin

1042
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 7: what was his line? It was clarity is velocity. That

1043
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 7: was Chris O'Leary's line. Clarity's velocity, And I need Darwin

1044
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 7: to play with velocity. So I need to get this

1045
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 7: to be easy and clear so he can be the

1046
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 7: best aversion of himself, which is in the conversations the

1047
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 7: best like Kyle Hamilton of Baltimore, so he did that.

1048
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 7: They traded for Elijah Molden I think middle of training camp,

1049
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 7: and it was on O'Leary to get him ready for

1050
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:34,280
Speaker 7: the season.

1051
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 4: And Molden had a huge year playing free.

1052
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 7: Safety for them, and so I think those two things

1053
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 7: combined with he goes to Western Michigan to be their DC.

1054
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: He was not on the team last year.

1055
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 7: He takes the Bronx from I think they were one

1056
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 7: hundred and fifteenth defense.

1057
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 4: In the nation. And remember this is the MAC.

1058
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 7: You're not spending a bunch of money to get a

1059
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 7: bunch of great players in it's pretty much level defense.

1060
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 4: So it's like you.

1061
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 7: Might as well you're at Ohio or you're at Toledo,

1062
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 7: or you're at Western or Central Michigan. It's all equal,

1063
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 7: you know, for the most part, top ten, top ten

1064
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 7: defense and all he did, and it was funny when

1065
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 7: you looked at his game plans and his teaching sheets,

1066
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 7: they were all Chargers. They just put a little Western

1067
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 7: Michigan logo on there. So basically he's just a disciple

1068
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 7: of Jesse Minter and a great again, very smart guy.

1069
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 7: So as long as it's a really long answer. As

1070
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 7: long as that holds up.

1071
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: They're gonna be good.

1072
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 4: They're gonna be good, man. I think I think the

1073
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 4: offense gonna be good.

1074
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: I think the Harball brothers and Jim's talked about this forever.

1075
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: Their ability to hire coaches that's it, especially defensive coaches

1076
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: is pretty good. I mean, no one ten years ago.

1077
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, I mean, the guy was a quality control

1078
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: guy at Georgia and they've turned him into I mean,

1079
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: one of the best coaches in the league. Kyle Shanahana

1080
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: Sean McVay of defense. Right, So in Harbaugh, you gotta

1081
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: trust because it typically works. And your floor. The thing

1082
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: with Jim, your floor is so high. It's like you're disappointed.

1083
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: Back to back playoffs, no problem, right, you know, so

1084
00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: you're gonna get in.

1085
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 7: You can get into the tournament. When you've got Herbert,

1086
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 7: I know he has not played well. Anything can happen,

1087
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 7: and you know, I can make excuses forever about those

1088
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 7: playoff games and just sort of the issues that we're

1089
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,439
Speaker 7: plaguing them, even the Jacksonville game.

1090
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 4: Man, they just I mean it, I can do it.

1091
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 7: How are you running a freaking reverse to Michael Bandy

1092
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 7: when you're shutting the Jacksonville Jaguars out, and all you

1093
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 7: need is a yard and a half to pick up

1094
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,720
Speaker 7: a first down and go to the half up twenty

1095
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 7: eight to nothing.

1096
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: And it's over.

1097
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 7: And instead Joe Lombardi's running a freaking reverse with a

1098
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 7: practice squad guy who bobbles the snap and turns it over.

1099
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 7: Jacksonville scores, and it felt completely different going into the half.

1100
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 7: Because of that, It's like, what what are we doing?

1101
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: Cal I got one more question, actually, se football your

1102
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: co host Petros. Yeah, people, you know he's don't might

1103
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: not remember played at USC.

1104
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 7: Captain of the worst football team in USC history, And

1105
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 7: he says, I don't.

1106
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 4: That's his line.

1107
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 7: Yes, I was the captain, although I believe it has

1108
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 7: since been surpassed in one of those Clay Health You.

1109
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: Remember the in like six or five Fresno State played US. Well,

1110
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Petros called that game. My cousin was a long snapper

1111
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: on that team. I remember what it was on TNT

1112
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: back then. But USC in the heyday of Pete is

1113
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: it fair to say Dodger Laker level buzz in that city?

1114
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 4: Yeah? We had no football team, We had no NFL team.

1115
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: Would it matter though? As good as they were, I

1116
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: think they still would have been at equal. Yeah, the

1117
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: USC football is a big deal. USC football is a

1118
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 1: big deal. What the hell in California?

1119
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 7: I think bad leadership is ultimately what it came down

1120
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 7: to Pete. I think it started with Pete and a

1121
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 7: lot of this is me just regurgitating sort of what

1122
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 7: Petros's views are. But Pete, I think, became jealous of

1123
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 7: Norm Chow and you know, he was getting a lot

1124
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 7: of the credit. You know, Norm is this great play caller,

1125
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 7: and he's got Matt Lioner and Reggie Bush and look

1126
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 7: what he's doing with Lendale White and Mike Williams and

1127
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 7: and and then he just kind of basically kicked him out,

1128
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 7: you know, and made Lane and Sark and these young

1129
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 7: guys kind of came in. Did the same thing with

1130
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 7: Dwayne Walker on defense, who was really good at coordinating

1131
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 7: the defense, and then when he left, it just got

1132
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 7: away from him. Man Like, instead of recognizing that, hey,

1133
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 7: you've got all the recruits, you've got an incredible base,

1134
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 7: they were like, let's just keep the peat thing going,

1135
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 7: you know. And so you hire Lane and then you

1136
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 7: hire Sark like they hired allegedly reportedly. I want to

1137
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 7: make sure I say that hired a search firm. When

1138
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 7: they hired sark they were going to pay a million dollars.

1139
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 7: It's so stupid what these schools do that these search

1140
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 7: firms free these job, right, that's what are you getting

1141
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 7: paid a million dollars for? So they hire a search firm.

1142
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 7: Search firm comes back and says Chris Peterson, no brainer,

1143
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 7: perfect guy. They're like, okay, Steve Sarkisian Washington's like take them,

1144
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 7: will hire Chris Peterson.

1145
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 4: And looking at how that.

1146
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 1: Worked, they went to the playoffs. Immediately.

1147
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, immediately, Like had USC just listened to the search

1148
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 7: firm and hired coach Pete, I think coach Pete might

1149
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 7: still be coaching there.

1150
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it would have gone so well.

1151
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: I've said forever in college football, like culture and personality

1152
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: and where you're from matter. Look at all the great

1153
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: West Coast coaches. Pete California guy Yeh, Jeff Tedford California guy,

1154
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson, UC Davis West Coast guy Nick Sabe, and

1155
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart Dabo Sweeney. They're from the South.

1156
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 4: They have the draw right.

1157
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: The Northeast guys, now, there are some guys. Urban Meyer

1158
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: could have coached on them anywhere. Nick Saban probably could

1159
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: have too, but most guys are not that and Lincoln

1160
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: is a small town Texas guy. And it took over

1161
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: Oklahoma who it was already built.

1162
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: It was already built by Stoops.

1163
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: It was a little like now Chip with Ballotti took

1164
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: it to another level. But they were already a top

1165
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: twenty team. It was a good job to take over

1166
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: and take the next level. Lincoln did the same. They

1167
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: were already a top twenty, top fifteen team. He just

1168
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: made him a top five team. USC was a disaster,

1169
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: yea and Lincoln the thought they could buy their way

1170
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: out problem. The gavehim one hundred twenty million. They buy

1171
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: a mansion in Oklahoma. It's been a fucking disaster that

1172
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: there's no way around it's been. And then he last year,

1173
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: he wants out of the LSU game and Brian Kelly's like, no,

1174
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: we're playing this game. Brian Kelly said that it's like

1175
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: this guy, everyone's making fun of him, and he's like, no,

1176
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: we're playing this year. Obviously he's pushing for the Notre

1177
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: Dame thing. I feel like USC's just lost his way

1178
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: and it kind of starts with it. I met him

1179
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: a couple of times. He's a nice guy. I just

1180
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: think it's an awful fit. I mean, I think it's

1181
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: a terrible fit. And I just he has this great

1182
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: recruiting class. Okay, always eighteen year old guys. You ever

1183
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: hear Rick Patino talk high school kids in basketball and

1184
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: football are done because you don't need them for like

1185
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: three years. So it's like, okay, you have the top

1186
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: recruiting class. And part of it is California law. They

1187
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: could pay these kids in high school. Some of these

1188
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: states can't, so they can give him a bonus while

1189
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: they're still in high school. So would the kid actually

1190
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: go to sc or is he just going because you

1191
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: gave him seven thousand dollars? Yeah? I think I'm sure

1192
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: in Nest football this year, I don't see them as

1193
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: a playoff team.

1194
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 4: No, I'm with you. It's top down.

1195
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 7: It's beyond leadership, it's beyond the head coach I think

1196
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 7: goes and it's beyond gen co And I think.

1197
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 4: It's all the to the president of the university.

1198
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 7: How it's just gotten sideways, the idea that you could

1199
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 7: let a.

1200
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: Small town Texas head coach.

1201
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 7: That's done nothing for your program, dictate the end of

1202
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 7: the most storied college football rivalry outside of Michigan Ohio State,

1203
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 7: Like you're going to really let that go because of

1204
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 7: Lincoln Riley thinks he can make the playoff, which he

1205
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 7: has not done yet. If you get rid of USC

1206
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 7: Notre Dame, McKay Rockney like that, that's what we're talking about.

1207
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1208
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: For me, a guy that's finding play in college was

1209
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: not any of the national championships. It was the Notre

1210
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: Dame game with.

1211
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 7: The right exactly like right and like so for me

1212
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 7: my era, it was Rivers versus Rodney Pete Man, Like

1213
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 7: that was the game, Like that's the greatest coll I

1214
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 7: remember that being to me as a kid, like the

1215
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 7: coolest college football game I ever watched because it was

1216
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 7: storied Notre Dames, storied USC, the history of those two programs,

1217
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 7: California versus Chicago, And it's just is it done officially

1218
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,720
Speaker 7: They've tabled it for two years.

1219
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 4: They could revisit it, but it's just so dumb that

1220
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: it happened.

1221
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 7: It's so incredibly stupid that they let it happen. I

1222
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 7: don't understand it, and I know, like the the USC supporters,

1223
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 7: and there's plenty of them that will they're just boot lickuors.

1224
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 7: They'll say whatever they can to support the school and

1225
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 7: the team. Well, Notre Dame doesn't play by the rules

1226
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,479
Speaker 7: and they need to join a conference and they don't

1227
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 7: know what it's like, and it's like, I don't give

1228
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 7: a damn man, it's USC Notre Dame. I don't care.

1229
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 7: Like all that stuff you can figure out in the

1230
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 7: playoff and put pressure on them and they can't make

1231
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 7: the playoff unless they carry this sort whatever. It's just

1232
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 7: I'm just talking about this one game every year, and

1233
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 7: the idea that it came to an end.

1234
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 4: Is asinine completely.

1235
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: Is the coach in two years, No, no chance.

1236
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 4: I think he wants out.

1237
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: I think he was if McGuire, if Texas Tech had

1238
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: not gone, well, do you think.

1239
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 7: He's a text tech cut I think he takes any

1240
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 7: of those jobs. If anyone from the SEC or the

1241
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 7: Big Twelve come to get him, he will gladly.

1242
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 4: No.

1243
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 7: I think if any of the NFL teams, like there

1244
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 7: were some rumors that Tennessee was sniffing around you know,

1245
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 7: Sark and sniffing around Lincoln a little bit, I think

1246
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 7: had they come gone see you later. I don't think

1247
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 7: it's You're right, it's not only is it not a

1248
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 7: fit for SC. I don't think he believes that.

1249
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: No, that's what I mean. Who what would they do

1250
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: when on that What if SC had an opening? Like

1251
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 1: what would you even guess? Like where? Because it's hard

1252
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: to even like, I don't even know where they'd stick.

1253
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 7: To me when when it was all coming up, when

1254
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 7: it all came up, I was like, first person i'd

1255
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 7: call it probably be Pat Fitzgerald.

1256
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 4: Get a guy that builds culture. Get the train back

1257
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 4: on the tracks. Yeah, get let's get what was SC?

1258
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 7: It was half back you man, It's like, let's get

1259
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 7: this thing back on the tracks. Let's get the trenches right,

1260
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 7: let's you've got Like you said, high school players don't

1261
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 7: matter as much anymore, but they do for depth, you know,

1262
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 7: and when not that.

1263
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 4: Right exactly. They're not going to help you win immediately.

1264
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 4: But I think if if.

1265
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 7: You get like someone like what Pete built with the

1266
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 7: offensive and defensive lines, when you think about those teams

1267
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 7: and how good those O line and D lines were, man,

1268
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 7: and when you get sort of like what I think

1269
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 7: Pat's going to be able to do in the Big

1270
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 7: ten again.

1271
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 4: It's just it's tough football man.

1272
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson does stuff at Fox. He's in LA all

1273
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: the time.

1274
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 4: Oh, I'd hire him in a second. I just don't

1275
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 4: think he wants to do it.

1276
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: He's done.

1277
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 7: If coach Pete said, hey, I want to do it, done,

1278
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 7: let's go.

1279
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: No.

1280
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 7: I think he's one of the most underrated coaches in

1281
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 7: the last twenty years, thirty years.

1282
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: Genius money. I appreciate it, enjoy the combine. I will

1283
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: enjoy life, and I do want to make one correction.

1284
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: When we were together in Phoenix, you played golf. I

1285
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: held clubs and swung them at a little ball. That

1286
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: was the difference. Well I had I had a kid

1287
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: about a month and a half ago, and I probably

1288
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: look more like you.

1289
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 4: Now. That's not good.

1290
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 1: So next time you guys come to Arizona Wall be

1291
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: equals awesome.

1292
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 4: Talk to you sooner.

1293
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: Man.

1294
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: Appreciate it, brother.

1295
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: Thanks Bro

1296
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: The volume