1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of talk about what the president's 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: calling Trump accounts. So I want to dive in with 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: you and explore how this new policy will affect you, 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: your family, and our economy. Here's the point. Babies get 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: a thousand bucks, they get a little steak in the 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: stock market, and over time, we're told the money grows 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: into something much bigger. That's one story. Here's the reality. 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: This is really two policies jammed together. One is a tiny, 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: temporary giveaway for babies and only those babies born in 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: the narrow window. The other is a brand new, permanent 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: tax break. Hey, there's a lot to unpack here, so 12 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: let's get into it. This is a story in five parts. First, 13 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: let's talk about the baby story that they're selling. Second, 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: I need you to know about the real story, which 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: is a tax break. Third, I want to dig into 16 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: who this helps. Spoiler it's well off families, and the 17 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: reality is that this will increase inequality. Fourth, you may 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: have seen some spectacally big numbers from the wide house. 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: You're going to be a lot better off if you 20 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: understand how those numbers are misleading. And Fifth, as you 21 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: think about rearranging your financial affairs, let's ask, is a 22 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Trump account even the right account for you? Here's the 23 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: big picture. The baby story it's simple, it's popular, and 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: it's got some genuinely progressive roots. The tax story, it's 25 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: more more familiar. It's another wrinkle in the tax code, 26 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: another way for families who already have money to save 27 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: and do a little better, which means this policy, in fact, 28 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: is not about giving poor kids a leg up. Instead, 29 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: it's more likely to widen the gap between rich and poor. 30 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: So let's start with the bit the administration wants you 31 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: to notice. The White House says that babies can get 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars from the government. They talk about the 33 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: magic of compound interests. They show you glassy future balances. 34 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: They wrap the whole thing and the language of opportunity 35 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: and ownership and getting a head start in life. Politically, 36 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: this is really clever, because the idea of handing a 37 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: child and asset at birth it's not crazy. In fact, 38 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: it's got a long and really pretty progressive history. There's 39 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: a whole tradition of what economists called child development accounts 40 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: or baby bonds. It's public money set aside for kids 41 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: so that where your parents start in life matters a 42 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: bit less for where you end up. That's the moral 43 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: idea underneath all of this. If wealth inequality starts early, 44 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: then maybe policy should start early too. And the progressive 45 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: versions of this idea, they're usually trying to do three things. 46 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: They want to make the contribution automatic, they usually make 47 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: it a whole lot bigger, and they try to steer 48 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: more of it towards the kids who start with less. 49 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: Said that, in that case, the policy actually does what 50 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: it says on the tin. Like take Senator Cory Booker, 51 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: He's got a baby bond proposal. It's started with a 52 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: public deposit of birth and then are piled on larger 53 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: annual public contributions for poorer kids. The whole point it 54 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: was to offset the unequal starting wealth, not just to 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: provide tax subsidies for the wealthy to pass on more 56 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: cash to their kids. Now, let's compare that with Trump accounts. 57 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: Trump accounts take that broad moral intuition and they shrink 58 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: it right down. They might even flip it on its head. 59 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: So what is the baby part exactly? Well, if a 60 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: baby's born between January one, twenty twenty five and December 61 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: thirty first, twenty twenty eight, they can get a one time, 62 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars government contribution. If someone opens a Trump 63 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: account for them, that's it. One thousand bucks, one time, 64 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: and only if you're lucky enough to be born during 65 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: Trump's second term. So yeah, look, there really is a 66 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: baby bond sort of thing going on here. But mate, 67 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: this is baby bonds after they've been through the wash 68 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: too many times. It's the same idea, it's only smaller, 69 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: it's thinner, it's more faded. And then come January one, 70 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty nine, conveniently, just after the next presidential election. 71 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure that was a coincidence, that baby bond, it 72 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: just vanishes all together. No other babies will ever get 73 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: a penny. So the part of this policy with a 74 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: progressive pedigree, that's the part that the administration made temporary, 75 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: small and disposable. Hey, there's one practical thing I need 76 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: you to know this program. It's not you have a baby, 77 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: you get money. You've got to claim it if your 78 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: kid's in the eligible birth window. So basically, if you 79 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: gave birth under the second President Trump, you need to 80 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: sign in through the IRS submit Form forty five forty seven. 81 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: That's not a joke. That's the form number, and then 82 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: grind through the account election and activation process, and at 83 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: the end, your baby will be one thousand dollars richer. 84 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: So let me say something plainly. If your kid was 85 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: born after January one, twenty twenty five, or you reckon 86 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 1: you might become a parent before the end of twenty 87 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: twenty eight, go and fill out that form. Your baby's 88 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: going to be one thousand dollars richer. I want the 89 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: best for you. I want the best for your baby. 90 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: But that plan it also gives away the priorities. The 91 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: headline grabbing, family friendly, populist part of this thing only 92 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: applies to four birth cohorts. It only hands over one 93 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. It makes families do paperwork to get it, 94 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: and then it vanishes. So let's turn to the real policy. 95 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: This is a bit they're not talking much about. The 96 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: lasting part of the Trump accounts isn't the thousand dollars seed. 97 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: The lasting part is the account and the tax breaks 98 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: that people get for pouring their own money into it. 99 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: Any eligible child can have one of these accounts opened 100 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: before they turn eight. In these accounts will have tax advantages. 101 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: That bit's going to keep on keeping on. It'll be 102 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: there for future babies long after the next election. So 103 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: if you've got one of these accounts, then during childhood, 104 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: families can chip in up to five grand a year 105 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: if they've got it. Employers can also add up to 106 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: twenty five hundred bucks a year in a way that 107 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: doesn't count as taxable income to the employee, and that money, 108 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: of course, that does count towards that five thousand dollars cap. Look, 109 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: let me slow down here, because this is where the 110 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: economics really lives. Suppose that your employer hands you twenty 111 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars in wages. Normally, that's going to show 112 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: up as income. That's going to go on your tax return. 113 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to pay tax on it. Now. So 114 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: maybe your employee gives you twenty five hundred, but you 115 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: only get to keep fifteen hundred. But if instead the 116 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: employer drops that money into a Trump account for you 117 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: and your kid, the law says, we're not going to 118 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: count that as taxable income. Right now, your kid's account 119 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: it's going to get the full twenty five hundred bucks. 120 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: So this is what economists call a tax expenditure. It's 121 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: the government saying, rather than writing you a check will 122 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: help you out by collecting less tax, so the support 123 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: flows through the tax code instead of through direct spending. 124 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: But the effect and importantly the cost of the government 125 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: is the same as if the government had sent you 126 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: a check as a reward for saving for your kid. 127 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Because it's a cut and your 128 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: taxable income, it's worth more if you pay a higher 129 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: tax rate. So if you're in a higher tax bracket, 130 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: which is to say, it's like the government is making 131 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: an even bigger contribution to savings put away for the wealthy. Okay, 132 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: that's the employer contribution. And part of this, let's turn 133 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: back to the family contributions, because both family and employer 134 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: can contribute towards saving for the kid. On the family side, 135 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: the tax break is actually a whole lot weaker and 136 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: a little more complicated. So if a family puts in 137 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: its own money, there's no upfront deduction. Instead, the family 138 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: side benefit it's mostly this the money that you put in. 139 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: It's the money your employer gives you after tax. You 140 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: put it in and it can grow without annual tax 141 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: on the gains like dividends or interests that accrue while 142 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: it sits in the account. That then means that your 143 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: money or your kid's money can compound without having to 144 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: compete with a taxman taking his slice every year. But 145 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: you will or your kid will have to pay tax 146 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: at the end when they withdraw the money. This type 147 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: of tax break, it's called tax deferral. Right, you do 148 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: pay tax, you just defer it till after you've compounded it. 149 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: And tax deferral can help, but it's often not the 150 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: best deal. Look, I'll come back. I'll say more about 151 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: that in the moment. So the real policy here isn't 152 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: it is. It's not the government building wealth for children. 153 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: It's the government creating yet and now that tax favored 154 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: place to stash savings that you can give to your 155 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: kids if you've got the money to give them. And 156 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: that brings us to the question that really matters who 157 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: wins from this tax break. Look, I wish the families 158 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: that are struggling the most, but unfortunately that's not what 159 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: this is about. Those families. Well, hopefully they'll watch this 160 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: video and go grab the thousand bucks, but that'll be 161 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: the end of the story for them. Now, wealthier families, 162 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: they've got more money, they're more likely to be able 163 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: to add money every year. They're more likely to be 164 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: in the types of jobs where their employers are going 165 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: to offer employer contributions to this savings plan. And they'll 166 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: get real value out of the tax shelter because they're 167 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: actually paying federal income tax at pretty high rates, and 168 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: so that means that their benefit from dodging that tax 169 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: makes it all the more worthwhile. So that's the heart 170 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: of it, and once you see that, the logic falls 171 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,119 Speaker 1: out pretty quickly. This policy isn't so much opportunity enhancing 172 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: as it is inequality exacerbating. It's more likely to lock 173 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: in that old American rule. It's the one we all deny, 174 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: but it returns to the reality of generation after generation. 175 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: The rule is that your parents' station in life helps 176 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: determine yours, and these accounts give them another way of 177 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: helping reinforce this inequality. So when politicians talk as if 178 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: this is going to give every child an equal start, 179 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: it's deeply, deeply misleading. Sure, the same account exists for everyone, 180 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: but the families with money, with higher tax brackets and 181 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: better jobs are going to walk away with a whole 182 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: lot more. And that brings us to the numbers let's 183 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: talk about those great, big, glossy numbers. And I want 184 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: to pause here because you can probably hear already from 185 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: my tone of voice. I'm not impressed by the government, 186 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: which has been floating some genuinely enormous figures. And so 187 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: what I want to do is square the circle for you, 188 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: so that you can understand what the government's saying, how 189 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: it got there, and what your reality might look like. 190 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,719 Speaker 1: The White House put out a bunch of projections on 191 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: Trump accounts dot gov that show that kids with Trump 192 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: accounts might end up with huge balances because of this policy, 193 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands, possibly even millions of dollars. These claims, 194 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: they're ridiculous, they're dishonest, and they're misleading. Look, I can 195 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: say those things while still conceding the arithmetic is real, 196 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: but it's really in the narrowest possible sense. Those gigantic 197 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: balances that Trump Accounts dot gov is promising they lean 198 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: on three things that are wildly unrealistic for most families. 199 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: First of all, decades of private contributions. The big balance 200 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: that they say you're going to get at the end, 201 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: it's not from the government giving your baby a thousand bucks. No, 202 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: these are the results of simulations in which they assume 203 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: that you feed five thousand dollars in year after year 204 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: for eighteen year, the first eighteen years of your kid's life. 205 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: Oh and if you really track the footnotes on the 206 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: White House website, you'll figure out that not only do 207 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: they assume you're putting five thousand dollars every year for 208 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: the first eighteen years of your kid's life, they assume 209 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: your feed in another seven grand a year into an 210 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: IRA for the decade after that. So, look, the government 211 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: did open the Trump account with one thousand dollars balance. 212 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: But really, what's going on here is they're saying, if 213 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: you do a lot of saving, you'll have a lot 214 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: of money. Look, mate, you don't need much math to 215 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: figure that out. Second, they made some unbelievably rosy assumptions 216 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: about how the stock market will perform. Remember, these accounts 217 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 1: are going to be invested in stocks, and so they 218 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: assume incredibly strong stock market turns across long stretches of time. 219 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: Quite literally, this is not a joke. This is literally 220 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: the case. They're assuming that the highest ever recorded rates 221 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: of return will just conveniently happen to repeat themselves when 222 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: you invest in a Trump account. Thank you President. Hey, 223 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: look I get it, that could happen, I guess. But 224 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: this is a value saying. When I try to communicate 225 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: facts to people, I usually try to represent what's likely 226 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: to happen instead, and what's likely to happen is very, 227 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: very different. Third inflation. A dollar in thirty years sounds 228 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: like a dollar, but it's not. Inflation. Swollen future figures 229 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: look impressive in a press release or on a website, 230 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: but they turn out to be a whole lot less 231 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: impressive when you try to spend them at a grocery store. 232 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: If I tell you what something might be worth decades 233 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: from now in nominal dollars, I can make the number 234 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: look huge, even when it's actual purchasing powers a lot 235 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: less impressive. The honest way to talk about the future 236 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: is to take these numbers and adjust for changes in 237 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: the cost of living. That's not what the White House did, 238 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: and it makes a big difference. So overall the White House, 239 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: it's big, glossy numbers showing a best case wishful thinking 240 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: scenario in which families keep doing a whole lot of contributing, 241 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: markets repeat their record returns, and inflation does the rest. 242 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: And look, the point I want you to draw from 243 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: this is do your own math, because the White House 244 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: numbers are ridiculous. Okay, Finally, I want to address the 245 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: question is this even the right account for you? Yes, 246 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: a three thousand bucks is terrific, but what about the rest? 247 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: Should you be stashing money for your kid's future in 248 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: a Trump account? Here's the uncomfortable truth. The answer is 249 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: that for a lot of families, it's not going to 250 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: be the right choice. Remember when a family contributes to 251 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: their kids account, the main benefit is tax deferral. The 252 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: money grows without an annual tax on the gains. That helps, 253 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: but usually you've got better options. For a lot of families, 254 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: Trump accounts a less tax advantage than the alternative that 255 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: you already have. These new Trump accounts they just add 256 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: another layer of clatter to an already clartered tax and 257 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: saving system. So let's just talk through a couple of 258 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: the alternatives that I want you to look at instead. So, 259 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: if the goal is to fund your kid's education, a 260 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: five twenty nine is often better, first of all, and aside, 261 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: who the all names these things? A five twenty nine 262 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: as a way of saving for your kid's future Honestly, 263 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: that sounds like a high way to Maine, not a 264 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: savings plan. But the thing that's important about a five 265 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: twenty nine is when you pull money out for education, 266 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: it comes out tax free, not tax deferred like a 267 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: Trump account. Tax free. That usually makes it a better 268 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: savings vehicle. If your goal is retirement saving for a 269 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: kid who's got earned income, a wroth IRA is usually 270 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: the best option because the long run tax treatment is 271 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: usually more generous. Look, it's another reasonable savings plan with 272 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: just another terrible name. I know someone needs to go 273 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: through this, someone from marketing. If your goal's just flexibility, 274 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: then even just a plain old taxable brokerage or custodial 275 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: account can stack up surprisingly well because those are treated 276 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: as capital gains, and so you get a lower tax 277 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: rate than you would get on a Trump account withdrawal. Okay, look, 278 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: if all of that sounded like a lot of made 279 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: up words and financial mumbo jumbo, let me just come 280 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: back to the simpler advice. Do your homework talk with 281 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: a financial advisor, or here's a surprisingly cheap alternative, talk 282 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: with claude or chat GPT, which in this domain often 283 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: give better advice. And I say that having checked before 284 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: I give that advice. It's important you do this work. 285 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: Don't put it off. It really matters, and ten minutes 286 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: of research could well be worth thousands of dollars to 287 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: your kid. So go ahead and do it. Press pause 288 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: on the video if you need to. Doing your homework 289 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: here really pays. And it pays because the account that 290 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: the administration is hyping Trump accounts. They're not just over 291 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: solid for a lot of families, they're not even the 292 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: best tool in the draw. Okay, so where does this all? 293 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to overstate the criticism. If you're eligible 294 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: for the thousand dollars, claim it free money is free money. Wait, 295 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm an economist. It's not free to the rest of us, 296 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: but it's free to you. And I hope you get 297 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: the point. If some families use this as one more 298 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: savings tool, terrific. But let's not pretend that this is 299 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: some great equalizing reform. The baby bond bit, which could 300 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: be is small, temporary, and gone in twenty twenty nine. 301 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: The lasting bit, the bigger bit, is another tax favored account, 302 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: one whose main benefits flow to people with money to save, 303 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: employers willing to contribute, and tax rates high enough that 304 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: dodging taxes as a big payoff. That's not any sort 305 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: of anti inequality policy. If you actually wanted to shrink 306 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: unequal starting wealth, you'd make the public contribution big, are permanent, 307 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: and better targeted at the kids who need it. If instead, 308 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: what you want to do is hand already comfortable families 309 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: one more tax favored shelf for their savings, it build 310 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: something that looks a lot like this. And if you 311 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: wanted to take that second thing and dress it up 312 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: to make it politically palatable, well you'd name it after 313 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: a baby. And that mate is the real economics lesson here. 314 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: Not every policy with a smiling baby on the label 315 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: is about equal opportunity. Sometimes it's just a temporary populist 316 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: giveaway stitched onto a permanent tax break for those who 317 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: need at least