1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,039 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. Joined 4 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, Mike Rabol. 5 00:00:40,399 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 6 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 7 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 8 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 9 00:00:50,519 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 10 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,719 Speaker 2: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. 11 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:58,519 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 12 00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:06,958 Speaker 2: Good ATCHA obviously disappointed an outcome of the game. We 13 00:01:06,999 --> 00:01:08,999 Speaker 2: had our chances. We always talk about it. It's not 14 00:01:09,079 --> 00:01:11,439 Speaker 2: just one play. It's not the interception, it's not going 15 00:01:11,479 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 2: for two. There are multiple players that happen, multiple players 16 00:01:14,239 --> 00:01:16,078 Speaker 2: that happen within a game that can change the tide 17 00:01:16,119 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 2: of it. You know, at the time, I felt like 18 00:01:18,679 --> 00:01:21,359 Speaker 2: that was the right thing to do. It's easy to 19 00:01:21,359 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 2: make a judgment one way or the other, but I 20 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:25,398 Speaker 2: thought that was the right thing to do at the time. 21 00:01:25,759 --> 00:01:27,318 Speaker 2: I will say this I thought the team went out 22 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 2: there and they fought, you know, being on the road 23 00:01:30,598 --> 00:01:33,279 Speaker 2: in this environment, and I will say just a shout 24 00:01:33,279 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 2: out to the fans that traveled. I felt like we 25 00:01:35,879 --> 00:01:38,239 Speaker 2: had a lot of fans that traveled and you know, 26 00:01:38,399 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: just you know, you could hear them, you could hear 27 00:01:39,879 --> 00:01:42,719 Speaker 2: them supporting us, and you know, too bad we let 28 00:01:42,759 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 2: them down. We got to be better. I have to 29 00:01:44,839 --> 00:01:48,159 Speaker 2: be better. Coaches have to be better. We go back 30 00:01:48,199 --> 00:01:50,719 Speaker 2: to the drawing board. Have to be able to you know, 31 00:01:50,799 --> 00:01:53,319 Speaker 2: run the football. You know, obviously that was disappointing. I 32 00:01:53,319 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 2: think Drake was probably our leading rusher today. You never 33 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:58,719 Speaker 2: really want your quarterback to be the leading rusher, and 34 00:01:58,759 --> 00:02:01,439 Speaker 2: that's that's in all facets. You know, we got to 35 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:02,999 Speaker 2: be able to move guys off the line. You know, 36 00:02:03,039 --> 00:02:05,439 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, their defensive line did a good job. 37 00:02:05,599 --> 00:02:08,559 Speaker 2: I mean, they were they were hard to handle inside, 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:10,719 Speaker 2: especially ninety eight, and we knew that coming into the game. 39 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 2: And you know, we just got to be able to 40 00:02:13,119 --> 00:02:16,039 Speaker 2: stand every team that we play, they're gonna have either 41 00:02:16,038 --> 00:02:18,638 Speaker 2: good edge rushers or good interior rushers. We just got 42 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,038 Speaker 2: to do a better job, you know, getting those guys 43 00:02:21,399 --> 00:02:25,439 Speaker 2: off the ball. You know, defensively again, you know, leaky 44 00:02:25,519 --> 00:02:30,038 Speaker 2: run defense. There were times where you know, it goes 45 00:02:30,159 --> 00:02:32,319 Speaker 2: back to fundamentals. Uh. We've spent a lot of time 46 00:02:32,319 --> 00:02:34,599 Speaker 2: talking about the extras and o's, but I thought the tackling, 47 00:02:35,079 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 2: uh still needs to improve, That's part of it. And look, 48 00:02:39,439 --> 00:02:41,478 Speaker 2: we went into the game also saying special teams was 49 00:02:41,519 --> 00:02:43,439 Speaker 2: gonna make a play, had to make plays, and you 50 00:02:43,479 --> 00:02:45,918 Speaker 2: know we had you know, the big returns by by 51 00:02:45,999 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 2: Marcus and you know those guys out there blocking for him, 52 00:02:48,879 --> 00:02:50,879 Speaker 2: and too bad we let this one, Supot drud. 53 00:02:50,999 --> 00:02:54,039 Speaker 1: I think the you know, obviously the disappointing loss, but 54 00:02:54,079 --> 00:02:56,319 Speaker 1: I think the entire NFL is talking about the twelve 55 00:02:56,359 --> 00:02:59,759 Speaker 1: seconds that Drake had running around and through the game, 56 00:02:59,799 --> 00:03:00,479 Speaker 1: tyme touchdown. 57 00:03:00,559 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: Just your thoughts on what you saw from him? Yeah, 58 00:03:03,239 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: just uh, mental toughness and the ability to make plays 59 00:03:05,799 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: with his legs which he's which he has shown before. 60 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 2: Gave us a chance to win the game. You know, 61 00:03:11,199 --> 00:03:15,599 Speaker 2: obviously just didn't didn't pull it through. Drudded his running 62 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,798 Speaker 2: around and kind of tiredness that looked like after factor into. 63 00:03:18,519 --> 00:03:19,559 Speaker 1: Not going for two there. 64 00:03:20,839 --> 00:03:22,439 Speaker 2: Uh, I'm not gonna get in. I don't wanna get 65 00:03:22,439 --> 00:03:24,319 Speaker 2: into that. It's a good question. I just don't wanna 66 00:03:24,359 --> 00:03:24,999 Speaker 2: get into it now. 67 00:03:26,239 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: Two weeks tho you saw there's a production the run 68 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:30,719 Speaker 1: game was sort of a mentalent. Do you think do 69 00:03:30,758 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: you still feel that way or what do you think 70 00:03:32,079 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: he's preventing the run game finding community. 71 00:03:34,399 --> 00:03:37,879 Speaker 2: I've always felt that stopping the run and running the 72 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:40,679 Speaker 2: ball starts with your attitude, starts with your attitude, starts 73 00:03:40,679 --> 00:03:42,679 Speaker 2: with your mentality, and we just have to do better 74 00:03:42,719 --> 00:03:43,519 Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. 75 00:03:44,039 --> 00:03:46,439 Speaker 1: Droe, would you think of the decision by Draco? 76 00:03:47,999 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 2: Look, look, he's a guy out there trying to make 77 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:51,879 Speaker 2: a play. He's trying to make a play, and I 78 00:03:51,879 --> 00:03:53,959 Speaker 2: think sometimes, you know, as well as he has played, 79 00:03:54,359 --> 00:03:57,199 Speaker 2: sometimes we forget how young he is. And he's gonna 80 00:03:57,199 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 2: continue to develop and he'll be a good quarterback in 81 00:03:59,119 --> 00:04:01,559 Speaker 2: this league. And look, we'll all learn from this, myself 82 00:04:01,559 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 2: included Troe. What did you learn about himTo that just 83 00:04:05,199 --> 00:04:06,999 Speaker 2: you know it? Well, I look, we already knew it, 84 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:08,759 Speaker 2: But I think the obvious thing is just his his 85 00:04:08,839 --> 00:04:11,959 Speaker 2: mental toughness and ability to really change the page and 86 00:04:12,119 --> 00:04:14,399 Speaker 2: being a resilient player. And that's a great quality to have. 87 00:04:14,839 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: As a quarterback, and he's a good competitor. 88 00:04:17,799 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: He defense obviously held him. You know, I need to 89 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 1: you some keep voice obviously regulation, but it's the sense 90 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: of after that game time touchdown, having them come right 91 00:04:27,719 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: down the field. How tough was that to to watch there? 92 00:04:31,479 --> 00:04:32,998 Speaker 2: It was very tough. You know though, we'll watch the 93 00:04:32,999 --> 00:04:36,079 Speaker 2: film and and see what happened, But it was tough. 94 00:04:36,239 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: Those long drives have have heard us at times this 95 00:04:38,678 --> 00:04:39,959 Speaker 2: year they just. 96 00:04:39,999 --> 00:04:43,199 Speaker 1: Some two dog Where did you see the offensive line? Field? 97 00:04:43,239 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 1: Were lately pronto? 98 00:04:44,159 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: The neigh group is one three peoples A w well, uh, 99 00:04:48,039 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 2: Mike ended up kicking in the guard. We felt like, look, 100 00:04:51,599 --> 00:04:53,199 Speaker 2: we we need to match up with one of their 101 00:04:53,239 --> 00:04:55,519 Speaker 2: best players. Again, when you watch the film, you're gonna 102 00:04:55,519 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 2: see the interior of the pocket at times was soft 103 00:05:00,198 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: and we thought, you know, putting our best player and 104 00:05:01,799 --> 00:05:03,438 Speaker 2: there was the best thing to do for the team. 105 00:05:03,599 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: Mangos are the two interceptions. 106 00:05:04,799 --> 00:05:05,399 Speaker 1: As the fumble? 107 00:05:05,519 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: Sorry I could they the Mango's has two interceptions at 108 00:05:08,039 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: the fumble? What is the balance there between putting at 109 00:05:10,759 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: young quarterback get is behind the room versus win. Now, Look, 110 00:05:14,599 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 2: we never wanna go out there and and turn the 111 00:05:16,799 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: ball over. I mean, we came into the game saying 112 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: we need to get turnovers and not turn the ball over. 113 00:05:20,318 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: That's the recipe for us to win football games, and 114 00:05:22,479 --> 00:05:24,519 Speaker 2: we just didn't do that today. He'll he'll learn from 115 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 2: his mistakes. Look, oh, that's one thing you wanna go 116 00:05:26,719 --> 00:05:29,639 Speaker 2: back to a characteristic. He learned from his mistakes and 117 00:05:29,678 --> 00:05:30,518 Speaker 2: he'll be better. Four. 118 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,519 Speaker 1: You feel like you've see some progress in certain fastest 119 00:05:33,558 --> 00:05:36,319 Speaker 1: of the game. Complimentary football, the interception by Dubai you 120 00:05:36,399 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: can down and get points. You know, things like that, 121 00:05:38,799 --> 00:05:40,399 Speaker 1: we kind of punt tryed that. 122 00:05:40,479 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: You might mentioned Marcus Chillings with a part return and 123 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,199 Speaker 2: then the drive. Yeah, I think so. You know, at 124 00:05:45,198 --> 00:05:47,118 Speaker 2: the same time, we never want to lose games. I 125 00:05:47,159 --> 00:05:49,639 Speaker 2: feel like crap right now, so it's hard to really 126 00:05:49,678 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 2: pull out positive out it this one for me at least. 127 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,638 Speaker 1: Question, how'd you feel like the way Drake protects himself 128 00:05:55,639 --> 00:05:58,278 Speaker 1: obviously has to leave last week's game. Took a few 129 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,079 Speaker 1: hard shots. Yeah, what'd you think of how he hitdled 130 00:06:02,119 --> 00:06:02,998 Speaker 1: himself in the overfield. 131 00:06:02,999 --> 00:06:04,559 Speaker 2: I thought he did well. I thought he did well. 132 00:06:04,599 --> 00:06:06,398 Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure we'll watch the film and say 133 00:06:06,479 --> 00:06:08,959 Speaker 2: things and Second guests. You know whether it's slide or 134 00:06:08,999 --> 00:06:11,319 Speaker 2: not the slide, but he's healthy and I think that's 135 00:06:11,318 --> 00:06:12,199 Speaker 2: the most important thing. 136 00:06:12,599 --> 00:06:14,238 Speaker 1: What would you like to see a cortball team do 137 00:06:14,438 --> 00:06:17,238 Speaker 1: now going forward here? You know, after what happened in London, 138 00:06:17,318 --> 00:06:19,118 Speaker 1: where they've come and where you'd like to see him 139 00:06:19,159 --> 00:06:19,639 Speaker 1: go from here. 140 00:06:20,039 --> 00:06:21,999 Speaker 2: I want these guys just to, as we always say, 141 00:06:22,078 --> 00:06:23,638 Speaker 2: change the page on Wednesday and get ready for a 142 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:25,399 Speaker 2: big game coming up, because it's the next game. 143 00:06:25,639 --> 00:06:30,398 Speaker 1: Thanks mess Patriots Playbook. Join John Brook if he brings 144 00:06:30,438 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 1: you all the latest Patriots Talk an expert commentary direct 145 00:06:33,119 --> 00:06:36,399 Speaker 1: from Patriots HQ. The show features interviews with New England 146 00:06:36,438 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: and Opponent Beat writers that bring you a unique media 147 00:06:38,799 --> 00:06:40,278 Speaker 1: view of the state of the team. But where the 148 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,319 Speaker 1: Patriots are concerned, Let's just get one thing done and 149 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: let's get it done right and then we can worry 150 00:06:45,958 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: about versatility. Am I lying to anybody here? Let's just 151 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,439 Speaker 1: get one thing done. Let's get one thing done right, 152 00:06:51,799 --> 00:06:54,158 Speaker 1: and then we can move along. That's kind of my 153 00:06:54,239 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: biggest thing. Search Patriots Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts.