WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Can We Vent? 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:10.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:23.000 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, flowing out of the backfields, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.840 flooding down the sideline. He is hanging with the boys, 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:33.360 presented by Wingstuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts, 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:44.040 Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross, Welcome 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.760 to the show. It's Monday. It is not Victory Monday. 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.080 And we've been trying to figure out how to get 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.680 Jesse Holly off this show for about a year and 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:57.520 a half now, So I just want to extend a 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:02.520 thank you to the Jones family for resigning Kelly Moore 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.040 and get Jesse to check and completely out of this 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:09.880 show and not even want to be a part of 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:15.240 this show. So thank you Jones family for for Oh, 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:20.000 there he is he did show up, he is here. 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:29.080 Oh can't get rid of me. Kellen Moore coming back 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:33.600 was going to do it for us, Jesse Man, oh Man. Well, 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:38.199 as you can see, I am officially on vacation. My shirt, 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.520 my hat. I don't know if I'm good co but 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:47.400 I am going somewhere. So I am I'm officially done. 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.560 I am done, except not for this show. I want 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.400 to see you guys two more times this week, So 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.400 today and then Thursday we'll be on at eleven thirty, 0:01:56.880 --> 0:01:59.120 and then we'll go to once a week every Thursday 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:03.640 eleven thirty with the boys. Fellas. I may not look 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.880 like it, but I am very sad today. The Cowboys 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:12.760 could not take care of business. So weird feeling, isn't it. 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.320 It is so weird because it's like they it's not 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.800 like they really deserve to be in the playoffs, and 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.680 we nobody thought they really would be, but yet they 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:25.760 had a chance. And so now, I mean the Giants 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.880 put it on about twelve different silver platters and serve 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:35.760 them up opportunity after opportunity after opportunity to just please 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.240 take this game. We don't want to be in the playoffs. 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.760 We don't want to watch the night game with anything 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:45.079 vested in this Cowboys, please just take this, win this 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:48.120 game so we don't have to have anything vested. And 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:52.519 they just could not get it done. Fellas, Jesse, were 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.680 you in morning? Is that why you were late? Or 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:57.200 did you just forget we had a show? Are you 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:03.480 just done? I was doing my best to get here 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:09.120 on time. It's okay, it's all right, it's okay, very vague. 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:12.320 We've probably better leave it at yea, yeah, got caught 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:15.160 cut caught at the train crossing, coming from the other 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.600 side of the tracks of the trailer park. We understand, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.280 we've all been trailer park. There a lot of a 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.360 lot of mud, and so I was trying to get out. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:25.079 I was trying to burn rubber get out of them. 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.720 The wheel just kept spinning, so they had to had 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:29.200 to help me get up about in the trailer park. 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.160 But I'm here, Burt, burning rubber, all right, at the 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:38.000 trailer park. Nate, Nate, you are quiet today? What what? What? 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:42.240 What you know? Beloved lifelong cowboy Homer on this show? 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.440 Why are you so quiet? Or your heartbroken? No? No, no, 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:51.160 I'm good. I talked to Barry Church before the game, 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.840 and I was just talking to Kurt and I said, Kurt, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:04:01.160 the biggest game, at the biggest moment, went to have 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:06.240 an opportunity to be in the playoffs. I was talking 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:10.000 to Buried Church, and Buried Church was sitting us sweating bullets. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:15.320 I'm like, Church, what's wrong? He's say, Nate, the biggest games, 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:19.760 the biggest moments, with the opportunity all I can remember 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.320 is we did at three years in a row, at 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:26.360 eight and eight, and we failed every time. And I 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:29.200 looked at it and I almost just walked out of 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:34.200 the studio because at the biggest moments, at the biggest times, 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:38.719 to give yourself an opportunity. Guess what the cowboys did. 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.320 And you know what typical cowboy fashion, they got all 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.400 of us to buy into. They got us to buy in, 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:50.960 kept us hanging on, went on that that went in street, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.240 kept us hanging on to the very last second, and 0:04:54.279 --> 0:05:00.160 then we got let down again. Kurt, what are your thoughts? Well, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:03.279 I said, it's disappointing. I mean, like you put it perfectly, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.120 they got and they sucked us back in. You know, 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.320 we had some hope, we had some excitement about what 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:08.960 was going on, and then at the very end, they 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.039 pulled the rug out from understand again they did it 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.839 two eleven, twenty twelve to thirteen. I think, you know 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.600 it just over and over again. It comes out of 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.520 the final game and they can't come through. So yeah, 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:24.000 I don't know why. I was more disappointed than I 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.800 thought it would be. Actually, I didn't think it would 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.040 kind of hit this hard. But you know, it's a bummer. 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:32.960 They didn't make the playoffs even if Jesse, Jesse, what 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:36.080 do you think about this? Tell me as a football player, 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.840 if a team on third down, it's old for a 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:47.320 seven in a whole game, shouldn't they lose if you 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.600 don't control the clock. You control the clock for thirty 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:53.600 plus minutes and they only control of the clock twenty 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:58.120 seven minutes. Oh no, But we got some defensive players 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.440 that want to hit, but folks want to push folks 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:05.000 over piles and keep drafts going, and it costs us 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:12.720 bout seventeen points. I'd tell you, I just don't understand this. 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:17.440 Just yea ahead, man, Well, I just was gonna come. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.640 You had that tweet during the game about the defense 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.440 was trying to play two over the top or two 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.640 emotional or whatever, and I wanted to ask you about that. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.560 You know, we we had been asking them to be 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.839 more physical and kind of show some emotion. But you 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.719 said this wasn't really the team that wasn't there, m 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.480 I guess yeah. You know you saw the team come 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:39.280 out and and and and everybody's trying to be you know, 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:43.320 super tough and super physical and super you know everything. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:47.159 Everything was so over the top and yes, you you you. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.280 You don't change your game in a ninth inning, right, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.359 you like you you when I when I mean be physical, 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.479 there's a level of being physical at the point of attack, right. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.080 I can be physical at the point of attack. I 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:02.000 can be physical at shedding a block. I could be 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.800 physical at making a tackle. But when you try to 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:10.080 get over physical we all laughed, and John Macholda got 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:15.000 over a million views on the Jalen Smith whatever that whatever, 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.200 that wwe thing that he did when he got into 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:23.440 the little pushing shoving back with the off Yeah, then 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:25.440 you know, then then you've got you know, you got 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:29.200 Jordan Lewis doing things, and then you got you know, uh, 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.200 Randy Greg. I mean, so you have all these things 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.640 where they're just playing way too emotional, way too over physical, 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.120 and that's not their style. And when you begin to 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.880 do things out of your character, it shows. And then 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.160 I know there's this show. It blatantly shows, and it 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:46.760 cost you when you start doing things and at this 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.360 point in the season that you have not done all 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.320 year long, and all of a sudden, now you want 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.480 to be this super tough, you want to be this 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:59.720 super aggressive football team. Guys, certain guys can't play that way. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.680 I knew guys that can get to level one thousand 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.200 and were able to play it under you know, under 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.640 that type of u that type of zone. I knew 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:11.640 guys who got to eleven one thousand, and they were 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.000 all over the place, and it just wasn't good for 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.000 the football team. And you saw a lot of guys, 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.239 especially earlier in that game, that was all over the place, 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:24.080 out of position, extending drives, giving up opportunities. You just 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.320 can't do that. And and to me, when I watched them, 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.600 especially on defense, I was just like, who are these 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:30.280 guys all of a sudden, Now you guys want to 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.400 be fighters, You guys want to be tough guys. This 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.760 isn't who you've been all year So don't don't try 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.440 to do this now in the final game of the season. 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:39.600 And this has not been who you've been all year long. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.920 It just was. It was It was out a character, 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.160 It looked weird, and it cost it cost him in 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.800 a lot of those instances. Was this was it, you know, 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.000 a concerted effort that, oh we gotta go try to 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.120 intimidate them, or was it nerves? Were they desperate? I mean, 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.160 why you think this was a hey, let's playing on 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:02.040 the body. Somebody spoke up and then deliver the right speech. 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:07.559 That's all that was. I'm saying, Jesse, you've been in 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:09.720 the locker room where you got certain guys that just 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.880 go off, fly off the handler. You look at them like, yo, y'all, Hey, 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.280 that ain't the way we're gonna do this well in 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:19.240 their locker room. It's obvious. It's obvious that they don't 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.880 have an alpha mail to say, hey, nah, we don't 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:25.120 do it like that. Let's play within our means. Like 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.880 you say, Jesse, you you're good at six hundred, You're 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.840 not good at a thousand. I was good at seven fifty, 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.640 but I was not good at eight hundred. I was 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.480 one of them guys. I could not fly off the 0:09:36.559 --> 0:09:39.640 handle because if I flew off to handle, bad things happened. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:42.079 You got to realize that as a player, and all 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.560 of these guys are played long enough to know that 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.520 cycle level, that hype level, and if you get beyond 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.560 that hype level, you have to pull yourself back down. 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:54.800 And nobody until at the half I guess Coach McCarthy 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.920 l coach Nolan Win and said, look, tell us what 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.760 are we doing. I just got a call from Jesse saying, man, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:02.240 don't recognize y'all. I mean, y'all got to do better. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.400 So do you think that was a big factor then? 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.760 And then falling down twenty to nine in the first yes, 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:15.240 first half? Yeah? You o for seventh, you ope for 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.480 seven or third down? You getting them out of there? 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:22.720 You take it and you but a guy. You you 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.520 got them out of there, You push you out over 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.920 a pole. You got them out of there. You it's 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.200 a full count and your fastball is ready to be pitched, 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:32.520 and all of a sudden you want to throw a 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:37.520 slider and you miss. Is that the guy? Is that 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:39.839 on the players with how they approached the game, or 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.800 is that on the coaching that didn't have them? Maybe 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.199 that's on the that's on the players. I mean at 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.240 some point in time, like you coach, and you coach 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.120 and you coach, and then you have to let go 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.079 and the guys have to go out there and perform, 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.400 right Like it's like this these these aren't We're not 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:57.240 talking about the middle school kids. It's like this ain't 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.560 Pop Warner. This is professional football. So you can coach 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.880 and coach and coach but at some point in time, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.600 you gotta let a player go and let him go 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:09.880 do what he's supposed what he's paid highly paid to do. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:13.439 And so in a coach is always supposed to be 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.800 making adjustments, but there's only like like, at some point 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:18.920 in time, he's got to say, all right, kid, go 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.199 play and and and hope for the best when they 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.000 go out there, and hope that you give them enough 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:28.559 knowledge for the game. Now, you can't coach someone's Uh, 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:32.439 you can't coach someone's attitude or amp level, or hype level, 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:37.360 or smart level or stupidity level. You can't coach those things, right. Uh, 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.200 some of it is just in certain people. Some of 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:42.440 it some some people just go out there and do 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.720 what they do all the time because that's just who 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.360 they are. And you try to you try your best 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.280 ability to coach in a proper manner that gives them 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.240 the best opportunity to be successful. But at the end 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.160 of the day, a player has to go out there 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.480 and do what he does. Like you're you're a grown 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.240 damn man. I can't I can't coach every aspect of 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.360 your game. I can't coach you in the film room. 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.480 I can't coach you in the training room. I can't 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.520 coach you in the practice field. I can't coach you 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.400 how you get hyped. I can't as a coach. I 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.040 don't have enough time in the day to make sure 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.200 that each one of my guys are coached to the 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:19.200 perfector to the you know, to perfection as far as mind, body, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.720 and soul. At some point in time, there has to 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:24.400 be a level of onus on the player. Jordan Lewis, 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.280 you can't head but a guy. I shouldn't have to 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:30.920 coach that. I shouldn't have to coach that. Randy Gregory, 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.640 you load that you can't come after the players called 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.439 dead and come push your guy off the pile. I 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.560 shouldn't have to coach that. That's not coaching, that's not 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.559 that's nothing I'm doing coaching. I shouldn't have to put 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.320 that in my notes. Hey let me let let me 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.880 make sure I tell Randy Gregory today, Hey, don't push 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.680 after the part. Let me put my notes today to 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:52.480 tell Jordan Lewis, Hey, dude, don't in open space where 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.880 it's just you and him standing and the ref. God 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.400 leave the ref standing right there. Don't head but the 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.640 dude like let's not do those things. So it's like you, 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.240 that's on a player. I can only coach so much 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.560 before a player has to take owners on what he 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.080 does on the football field, down in and down out. Yeah, 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.800 you know, coaches are say things before a game like 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.320 play hard, play smart, Hey, fellas, that's gonna get into 0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:18.280 no extracurriculum, things that they're sailor things like that during 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.080 the week, you know, praying that it touches the right. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:27.440 This is what's and I'm when you have no defensive 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:32.080 leadership and people can say, yeah you can, you can 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:37.520 name all the guys you want it as leaders. That's fine. 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.760 But to yesterday, it did not show up. It did not. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.720 After my man did what he did. Ahead, but at 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:52.200 the guy, everybody buried Church Isaiah stand back, Chris mean, 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.880 everybody just turned and we kind of looked at each 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.440 other like, what did he just do? With the rep 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:02.520 standing right there looking? I mean, how do you answer that? 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.920 How do you go back in the huddle? You was 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:09.160 getting ready to run off the field third down? How 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:15.040 do you go back, Fellas? My bad? My bad? I understand. 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:18.559 And then the next play, the next few plays, the 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.680 guy that you're supposed to be on. We heard that 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:26.920 from Sharp from What's Kid eighty seven? We haven't heard 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:30.560 that from him all year long. He came in here 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:34.200 and now he's now here. He's um the first alternate 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.480 for the Pro Bowl, where he got as players, were 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:41.000 you surprised that Jordan wasn't benched at least for a 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.680 little bit for who? For who? I mean, you don't 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:47.960 get better for who, just as not not because there 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.640 was somebody better there, but just as a disciplinarian thing, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.680 you can't do this. No, you wear your option on. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.000 All right, he made a dumb mistake, and you try 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.040 to give him some grace for that, especially if he's 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.880 not you know, repeat or repeater of fan. But also 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.120 you're saying, hey, I still have a football game to 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:06.040 go win, right, Think Think, think about what what the 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.320 headlines would have been if Jordan Lewis headbuts a guy 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:14.360 then gets bench and they really they blow us out 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:15.920 and saying, oh what do you guys do? Which we're 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:18.320 trying to win the game. Handle that later and in 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:21.600 some instances you do, right. We all we've all heard. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:24.080 I don't know if Nate told her, know, Michael Ervin 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:27.640 has told us several times before, when who's Eric Williams 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.840 when he was missing? Yeah, during the Super Bowl and 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.680 it was like, hey, if anybody goes missing, it're not 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.600 on time of the night, you're not gonna play. And 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:35.920 then like you know, one of your players goes missing 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:37.920 and not on time, He's like, well, we're gonna deal 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.440 with that after the super Bowl, but who don't have 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.880 to go win this football game first? So you know, 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:44.840 you know, you always say, you know, everyone's treated fairly, 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.280 but everybody ain't treated the same, and the same thing 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.680 goes for this situation right here. Yeah, what what do 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:51.800 you do? You miss Jorge Lewis for a quarter? Four half? 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:53.640 All right? Now, the guy the back of guy you 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.800 put in, he's he's he's not as good as George Lewis, 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.440 doesn't have the experience and gives up bookoo about the 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.160 plays and how you really in the deficit. That that's 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:03.800 just that's one of the coach thing you say, all right, 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.280 we discipline them, we yell at him on the sideline, 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.080 we correct it. It's one of our veteran guys, so 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.640 we hope that he doesn't do it again. But you 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.360 can't you can't bitch a guy in this game at 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.680 that moment for that penalty. And you know, we we're 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:21.120 huge fans of Jordan Lewis on this show, and we 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.600 all know why why is he not getting more playing time? 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.440 Maybe this is why. Maybe there's things that they've seen 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.080 that they can't you can't trust, and that's maybe that's 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:34.640 preventing them from getting playing time. I don't know who knows. Man, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.120 sad day, cowboy Land. We're gonna take a break, we 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.280 come back. I mean, should we even talk about should 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.800 we even talk about the Giants game? Does it even matter? 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.760 Should we just talk about we gotta we gotta put 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:47.280 a bowl on it. 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Your kicker four 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:55.400 for four along of fifty seven yards, he's pretty good. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.160 Your tight end was your leading receiver with ten targets, 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:03.960 seven reception for seventy yards. He's pretty good. Andy Dalton 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:07.480 is your leading rusher, which is pretty sad. Seven rushes 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:09.919 for forty eight yards. But I will tell you this. 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:13.960 You know, we we we bag on on Zeke when 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.800 he's not doing good. He he showed a lot of 0:20:16.800 --> 0:20:19.480 heart yesterday after after the game, he talked about he's 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:22.920 been battling a hamstring injury and a quad injury. He 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.080 ran hard, like he ran with heart. You know, I 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:28.760 know we give him a hard time on this show sometimes, 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.440 but you know, he only averaged three yards to carry. 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.440 But I thought he went out there and you could 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.720 tell he was struggling, and I thought, you know, you 0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:41.280 run with heart. Didn't translate to a lot of yards, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.600 a lot of not averaging a lot of yards, But 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.959 hats off to Zeke. So one of some things. Are 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.320 they any positives? Go ahead, go ahead, Kurt Well, I 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:54.080 kind of wish I cut in some ways. They gave 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:56.000 up on the running game too early. I kind of 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.000 wish they had stuck with Zeke a little longer, and 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:00.320 maybe he was too banged up to really do a lot. 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.840 But I mean, fourteen carries, that's they don't win football 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:06.719 games where they're given to seek that few. You know, 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:13.359 that not that much work, I guess, and I realize, okay, 0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:16.280 good response, thank you, But uh yeah, I realized that 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.320 the offensive line was probably struggling. But uh, I mean 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:21.560 if you look at the game, this was a game 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:26.720 Kurt that and Shannon and jest that I emphasized all week. 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:32.320 This is where you would see, uh that our offensive 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:36.480 line when't as efficient as they should be. And it's 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.399 told in the red zone where blocks have to be 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:43.680 a little bit more precise. Uh, it's told at key 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.600 times at a game when you needed to hold and 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:51.640 Lennard Williams and his crew made some big plays. And 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:56.240 that is where you see where this uh, the deficiencies 0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:59.600 of our offensive line and where they have been successful 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.840 with other defensive lines that wasn't as good as what 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:07.240 Lena William was bringing yesterday. It hurt us, man, I mean, 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:11.320 and when your quarterback opens the game kind of off 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:13.399 character a little bit. It took a while for him 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.399 to get into a groove and they right there. They 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:20.040 was down by well almost twenty points at a certain time, 0:22:21.560 --> 0:22:24.920 and their defense just kept continue to build mo minimum 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:29.280 minimum Minnisoma. They held on even because we know, and 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:31.320 I'm not trying to be funny, I'm just talking serious. 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.879 We know, at some point in time in the third quarter, 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:35.840 Jason Garrett will get you a chance to get back 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:39.680 in the game. He gonna go ultra conservative and gonna 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:41.760