WEBVTT - Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 144 | Jaguars 2025 Draft Grades 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:24.400 Jacksonville, Jack Lars and like t Travis Hunter, roar receiver defensive. 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:36.480 Back in Colorados, the boldest of bold moves to kick 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.720 off the draft and the James Gladstone era here in Jacksonville. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:40.040 Welcome. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.040 I'm Cannannie Stevens to Jagsam this morning. Brian Sexton, John 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.240 Osier with me. As we have a lot to discuss. 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:47.519 We were here all weekend for the draft and a 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:49.720 lot of new faces coming to toat We'll start off 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.879 with big things. Bold moves got as bold as you're 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:54.880 going to get Brian off the b We knew they 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:56.720 weren't going to be scared to do it, but trading 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.960 up to get Travis Hunter the boldest move in franchise history. 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:00.960 I think fair to say. 0:01:00.960 --> 0:01:04.360 Without a doubt. Look, I've done this for thirty one years, right, 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:06.559 that was my thirty first NFL Draft. I've never seen 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.520 a player be the best player at wide receiver, best 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.959 player at corner, and the best overall player. It's the 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.840 triple crown, except I've never even seen a triple before. 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.480 I mean, I've seen the best quarterback and the best 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.600 player in the draft. Right, It's just the Jaguars were 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.720 sitting at five in a unique year where both the 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.880 top team and the number two team didn't want the 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.880 best player in the draft, why not swing for it 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:31.880 and get a guy that you believe can be a 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.319 Hall of Famer. You gotta take moves like that. They 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:36.800 found a way to get it done. I really enjoyed it. 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:39.440 Look, it's a tone setting move. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:43.200 It's a risky move because you're giving up so much 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:46.520 capital to go get it, but it's also a move 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.480 where everybody's on board, and I think what it shows 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.920 more than anything they've been talking since they got here, 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:58.440 meaning Tony vassellly, Liam Cohen, and James Gladstone about being 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:03.480 aligned and since the draft talking to different people. This 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:07.520 really did take alignment, meaning you had to make sure strength, staff, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.400 assistant coaches, whatever, knows what. 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:11.520 The plan is going to be for this guy. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:15.280 And everybody's on board, and everybody's willing to be that 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.360 team that sort of puts itself out there to go 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.920 do this. So New eraon douvall Right. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:23.839 Well and listen, that's what everyone wanted, right. I Mean, 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.560 I'm assuming that most people who are watching this are 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.680 on board with this move. But if you were not, 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.320 you wanted something different. The previous general manager probably doesn't 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:36.359 make this move. He doesn't like to give up picks. 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.320 You wanted something different, man, You got something different, and 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.680 you got it in spades. You got a guy who 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.880 was willing to take the boldest of moves, as Kay 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.680 said right off the top, in one of the boldest moves, 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.760 if not the boldest move in franchise history. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:50.760 Bit of a one to eighty, but a good one. 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:52.440 Let's go to big thing number two, which is two 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.400 for one. Obviously, Travis Hunter is going to play on 0:02:54.440 --> 0:02:57.240 both sides the football. But John versatility was something they 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:59.359 focused on in this draft. A lot of these players 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:02.799 play multiple positions or have played a position in college 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.079 and they think can play a different position at the 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.760 NFL level. That was clearly an important characteristic to GM 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:09.600 James Gladstone. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.560 Yeah, I was gonna say, with the exception of the 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:15.080 running backs, but even the running back Tooton can return kicks. 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.840 The offensive lineman. It's getting to the point where if. 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.800 You're not a top five offensive lineman pick, you better 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:25.440 be able to sort of play a lot of positions 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.200 when you first coming in the league anyway, But yeah, 0:03:28.680 --> 0:03:35.040 it's about versatility. McLeod the linebacker can do multiple things. 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:37.240 He's going to play that buck position, which is a 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:38.120 versatile position. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:39.560 That's what they wanted. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.480 And again, if you're going to set a tone for 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:46.640 a draft with versatility, run, it's Travis Hunter, who's versatile 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.720 as any player has been in sixty five years. 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:50.440 And let me just touch on that off the top. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.720 He's a guy who people are wondering can he do both? 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.440 And there's lots of conventional wisdom that says that in 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:01.040 the NFL you can't, because the density of playing just 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.200 wide receiver alone or just cornerback alone is so much 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.960 greater at the NFL level. He was so much more 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.920 gifted than most of the players that he lined up 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.160 against in college football. He didn't have to spend the 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.840 sort of energy intellectually and physically that he's going to 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.520 have to at the NFL level. So that's conventional wisdom. 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.599 But you're spending a little time with him on Thursday 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.240 night in Green Bay. I don't doubt his ability to 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:24.760 do it. I don't know that he can play the 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.160 number of snaps he played almost every snap in Colorado, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.120 but I think he can play a significant role on 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.040 both sides. Of the ball, and so today, I think it's. 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:34.159 Going to be an evolving situation. 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:36.400 I'm excited to see how they utilize him and how 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.160 that progresses as the season goes along. Our final big 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:41.600 thing today is going to be take what's given. Now, 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:43.520 we know a lot of the draft is about how 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.159 the board falls and what they addressed. Jim James Gladstone 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.720 addressed taking not necessarily the need of the team, but 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:50.640 what's available. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:54.000 The board always fallows certain ways, and you're not going 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.360 to reach because of what might be a perceived need. 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.680 So you're always going to take the players that you 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.599 feel like are going to put the team in the 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:06.960 best interest moving forward, and you don't want ever sort 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.080 of lean heavily into just one idea of best player 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:15.480 available and needed some version of balanced dynamic that comes 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:15.839 with that. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.400 Brian, They certainly addressed some needs on this team or 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.479 perceived needs by this new iteration in the front office 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.880 and coaching staff. But I know some people are like, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.440 why didn't you go defensive tackle route? Why wasn't that 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.000 looked at it all? And James Wotson basically said, we 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.440 didn't see what we wanted at those points, so we'll 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.120 kind of address it at a different point. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.360 Well, rather than the age old you know, best available 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.120 player and who doesn't need a great player wherever you're at, 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.400 and the fact that this team had a lot of holes. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.920 What we don't know kai is what they tried to do. 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.320 We know the trades that they were able to execute 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.080 moving back and forth. We don't know who they called 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:51.919 to try to move up to be in a position 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.480 to take a defensive tackle, who said no, or who 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.280 took someone else's offer, or who wanted too much. Because 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.400 they didn't take one where they were means that they 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.240 didn't like where they were or what was there where 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:06.800 they were. It doesn't mean they didn't try to address 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:08.599 the issue at defensive tackle. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.719 There may be no bigger disconnect between how most people 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.799 view something in the NFL and how it really works 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:21.240 in the draft. I was ecstatic after the draft to 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.760 see that they didn't get an edge rusher. 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:25.880 And here's why now that they don't need one. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.560 That's not a weakness, but it showed me that they 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.080 really do stick true to the board. 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.520 There were edge rudgers. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.840 That that they like, particularly one somewhere in like the 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.560 second or third round. Is my understanding didn't get him 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.840 didn't work out. We've been around gms who automatically at 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:44.800 that point the next round would be saying, get me 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.400 an edge rusher, and if you do that, that's the 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:49.960 quickest way toward errors. 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.200 The fact that they didn't press. 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.880 That and then went out and got I'm gonna watch 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:59.320 his name on Sunday because Emmanuel Oh by, thank you. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:03.159 The fact they went that route shows me that when 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.159 they say they're going to be true to a board 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:08.120 and true to their value strategy, that they're going to 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:12.000 do that, that really bodes well for the franchise. Even 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.520 if people may not grasp why you didn't fill a need. 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.280 Stay with us here on Jagsam. We got more on 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:26.960 that first round draft pick. Travis Hunter exam brought to 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.480 you by Fresh from Florida. It's always in season. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:36.920 It's capacity to ignite belief, right belief in ourselves, belief 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:42.560 in others, right belief in achieving what many may deem impossible. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:48.640 Travis Hunter, he embodies belief right. He's a rare person, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:53.440 he's a rare player, but he's also a reminder that 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.560 the boundaries of the game of football were built to 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:02.680 be challenged, and so the decision to select him was 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.120 actually a statement, a statement for how we plan to 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.560 move who we are, and we want him to be 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:15.120 nothing more than him because when he is, he elevates 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:20.200 the space around from the football field to the city, 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.800 to the game of football itself. Travis Hunter is who 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:25.800 we've been hunting up. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:29.680 Talk about an introduction. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.760 If Travis Hunter wasn't ready to run through a wall 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.839 after hearing all that and expectations for him, I think 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.360 he's pretty excited to be in Jacksonville. 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:38.840 I wish James wasn't so meek. 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:42.160 You know, he really is just so soft spoken, doesn't 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:43.280 say anything with his chest. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:44.560 You know, look. 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:50.160 This, I've never really seen anything like this with James 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:54.440 Gladstone's willingness to sort of say here's what we're thinking. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:56.760 The NFL that I've been around, Brian has always had 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:58.600 that thing of secretive where they would say something in 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.880 a draft room right out and say, well, we don't 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.360 want to get burned by saying this about this player. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:09.480 James Gladstone has the conviction of his beliefs, the confidence 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:13.760 to move forward with it, and really there's a core 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:16.680 of confidence there that allows him to say things like 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:18.480 we think this kid's going to be a transitional player 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:19.760 or a transcendental player. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.120 I like it. I'm getting used to it. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.319 And the whole theme of the weekend is so obviously 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.240 this wants to be a bold franchise, and they did 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.280 that with the first pick. It's an unbelievable tone to set. 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:34.480 Roy. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.880 Listen, if you ever wonder why they keep things so 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.240 secretive and quiet. Now you know, we've been told that 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.720 it was a seventeen day window that they had this 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.640 thing done. And just a little side story. I'm in 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:49.199 the media room at the convention center there in Green 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:54.480 Bay and Dylan, who is our PR representative, up there, 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.199 and here comes the whole team from Cleveland and they're 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.640 pr and social people and one of the guys is 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.360 carrying the football with a great, big number two in 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.400 a graffiti style on it. I mean they thought that 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:08.640 they were taking Travis Hunter. They were all excited about it. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.160 I almost went over today, We'll take that from you, 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.040 because it didn't take them out at that At that time, 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.200 I knew and maybe they didn't what was happening. It 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:20.400 was just interesting to me that the Browns were the Titans. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:23.559 John and the Browns passed on a player that the 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:26.320 Jaguars believe will not only be a Hall of Fame 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.720 caliber player over the course of his career, but will 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.120 also be a guy that can transition the game. Why 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:33.200 do you take anyone else? 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:33.760 I get it. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.439 You know, they needed a quarterback in Nashville and they 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:40.320 think that Mason Graham fits their personality. Man, I still 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:42.920 can't believe the best player, the best corner, the best receiver, 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.840 the best player was not good enough or didn't fit 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:48.440 in Nashville or Cleveland. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:52.319 Well, and even beyond sort of how he's with the media. 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.600 Maybe when you were a kid and if you bought hystereo, 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.200 you worried if your friends would. 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:56.440 Like it or not? 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.160 Right, I mean, that was the most important part of 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.840 the person, to get your car. The kids at school 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.600 have to, uh, like what I got. I get feeling 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.360 that Gladstone would probably go and buy a car and 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:10.440 not give a rats but what the other kids thought 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.040 of it? Because he believed it's the right thing to do. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:18.080 And this pick took guts because if in two years 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:23.400 it doesn't work, it's, oh, what an idiot. But he 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:27.160 believes in it. The franchise believes in it. They're they're 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:32.760 seeing it in a unique way and then not afraid 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:34.160 to follow it because a lot of people in this 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:36.280 league would have been afraid to make that move even 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:37.000 if they wanted to. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.760 So buckle up, buckle up. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:42.319 I think it's interesting to point out we talk about 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.760 we're kind of used to that secrecy angle. Obviously, they 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.839 kept a secret for quite some time and close enough 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:48.360 to the best that it didn't leak out, which in 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.280 today's media is pretty crazy. But then also just being 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.800 honest about they said they were gonna make mold moves 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.600 and they have made bold moves, and I don't think 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.240 we're necessarily used to hearing that around here and then 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:03.000 the follow through and very much intentionally saying how they're 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.600 going to act and operate and then doing that exact 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:06.160 same thing. 0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:09.480 So it's a new generation. I've said it before. I 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.000 call them the hedge Fund group, right. I mean, they're young, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.720 they're data driven, they're aggressive. They're willing ki to take 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:18.000 conventional wisdom and set it aside for a move that 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.840 the data and their aggressive posture says works. You know 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.959 for guys like us who've seen conventional been around conventional 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:29.400 and you too hopes in conventional football thinking it's I 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.640 want to say it's radical, but it's very different. It's 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.240 not hard to get used to. It's not hard to 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:36.880 get used to something that says we're going in a 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.800 different direction from a four and thirteen football team, right 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.560 from one that what if they wont they're five and 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.320 seventeen in their last twenty three regular season games. Yeah, 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.440 let's go. And let's not just go John, let's go 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:50.600 all in with both feet into. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.400 The deep end. Yeah. And something that I think. 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.120 Since we've met James Gladstone on this set and been 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.960 around them a little bit. I'm not gonna say where 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.360 hanging out at the beach, but we have gotten a 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:05.840 fuel for him. I think if you watch him on TV. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.480 I got this text with somebody in the media send 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.360 I wish he just didn't talk like a cult leader, right, 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.480 you know, but but he has a unique way of 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:21.960 speaking that I don't necessarily know translates into who he 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:22.400 really is. 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.160 I had somebody yesterday tell me, well, this is a 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:24.880 football guy. 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:29.440 Now, he played football and he's competitive, and so I 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.880 don't know if that part necessarily gets through and you're 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.080 watching him, but the football people in the BI I mean, 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.160 this guy was born to be a GM and you 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.360 could sort of tell he's living his life and he's 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:47.840 been ready for this moment. The more you're around him, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:50.000 the more you realize this is a different cat leading 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.360 the Jaguars and it's gonna be fun to watch. And 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.199 I'd be stunned if this isn't successful. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:57.120 I don't know about next. 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.800 Year, but under his leadership, that vision, in that organization. 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:04.200 This is a different thing going on. 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.640 And if it is, who cares what he says, it's 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:07.880 what he does sure. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:09.800 And I think we also have to remember at this 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.120 point of the progression, they're still trying to set that tone. 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.200 They're still trying to say exactly what the Jaguars are 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:17.559 going to be going forward. So yes, we hear him 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.720 a lot, and you know, repeated phrases, intangibly rich and 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.960 some other things, But a lot of that is because they. 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.000 Want to be on the same page. If you're saying 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.320 the same things. 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.440 That's how you know that that's truly where they're all at. 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:33.000 Let's talk a little bit more about Travis Hunter, because 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.520 I'm having some fun with this. So from what we've 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.880 heard so far, he'll play or they're going to start 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.680 him out on offense and then kind of work him 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.480 into defense, which is a little bit different than a 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:44.480 lot of people had predicted. Some of the scouts and 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.000 analysis was that he would play mostly defense and then 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:49.040 minor on offense. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:50.760 But we're seeing opposite of that, which is kind of cool. 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.280 Well, maybe you heard Jeff loghim and say this. I 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.840 rely on his instincts on this. He told me that 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:01.240 he believed that Travis Hunter has hall of ability as 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:03.560 a wide receiver. In fact, he told me and our 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.920 audience I'd get a show with him that he thought 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:08.600 that this was a guy who was maybe the best 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.320 receiver he had ever watched on tape. He just makes 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:15.000 it look easy. His thought was that the disparity between 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.760 Travis Hunter and all the other receivers was wide at corner, 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.120 it was much more narrow. He thought he was very good, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.760 obviously the number one overall guy, but it wasn't that 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.440 he was far and away the better corner. Now, I've 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.080 seen different opinions on that. Obviously, when you've got a 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.600 guy that plays both ways, everyone's gonna have a different opinion. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.560 But I trust log him in on this one. And 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.360 I've been watching the game film and I see a 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:42.000 receiver that looks like I don't know, Yeah, I mean, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:43.520 he could be as good as anybody that you want 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:43.960 in the league. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:45.680 A key is going to be. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.040 And this is what Bucky Brooks said on some shows 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.080 on with him. He does need to get more polished. 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:59.200 He's not coming out as a absolute at a top 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.000 ten Henry Eller type route runner yet. 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:02.360 But. 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.840 Is so is so scary to defenses that he's gonna 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.160 strain it. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.200 He will need to work. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:15.560 To polish as an NFL receiver. My understanding is it's 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.280 going to be seventy five percent offense at first, meaning 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:23.280 practicing and working with the offense multiple days a week 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:27.960 and then learning maybe defensive packages to be on the 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.400 field when the other team is in passing situations, something 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.200 along the that's not exact. 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:37.440 That's the vibe that I get from listening to press conferences. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.040 They will figure out a way to make work. 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.040 The one thing I did here yesterday was, look, it's 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:49.160 gonna be full time offense, working toward defense first year. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:50.920 But this kid wants to be on. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.120 The field every play. They're gonna have to hold him 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:55.200 back from doing that. And there's no reason in the 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:56.520 future if he shows he can do it. 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:57.640 They'll let him do it. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.400 Can you imagine those strategically Again, probably not this year, 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.080 but at some point in his career where you just 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.320 pop him in and he starts right. You're playing the 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.920 Minnesota Vikings and Henry Ellard and you're trying to get 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.480 ready and you don't know that here comes Travis Hunter 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.359 and he's going to start at corner. You game planned 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.320 because you think you're going to see Monteric Brown and 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.879 instead you're getting Travis Hunter. I mean strategically, you can 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:22.680 do some things with him that we've never seen done before. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.960 That alone is a transition in the game, changing the game, 0:17:27.160 --> 0:17:28.600 which is what Gladstone said he could do. 0:17:28.680 --> 0:17:32.000 And the one overwhelming thing they said is people who've 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:36.439 played football and understand what it takes physically to do it, 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.200 they're blown away by even watch them in Colorado be 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.560 able to run a sixty five yard route on one play, 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:44.560 come off, drink a sip of water, and go out 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.160 and be playing at a high level on the next play. Now, 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:51.320 will that be after the massaged a bit in the 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:56.080 NFL with the physicality, maybe, but they've never seen anything 0:17:56.280 --> 0:18:00.280 like that in college. So what will look like in 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.720 the NFL. That A's alway said what everybodys waiting to see. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:04.280 You grew up in New England. I mean, how many 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.720 times did you watch the Kenyon Runners during the Boston 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:10.359 Marathon run these two hour marathons and come across the line, right, 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.400 I mean you're like not even Yeah, it's sweating. There's 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.800 just there's some people on earth that can do things 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:19.080 physically that other people can't, and maybe he's that guy. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:20.760 And very exciting on offense. 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.320 At Colorado, his main role was on defense and then 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.719 he was kind of going in on offense and playing 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.960 with what was given to him. So if he takes 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:30.880 all of his time and focuses, you know, seventy five 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:32.760 percent of his time and is focusing on offense and 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.160 learning routes and becoming better, he was already the best 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.880 wide receiver in college last year without that, so it's 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:40.720 very exciting to kind of predict. 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:41.920 What that might look like on the next level. 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.240 Well, that's a lot of exciting things and we are 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.280 very excited to see Travis Hunter take the field. But 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:47.720 before that, we're going to talk about some of the 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:59.320 other picks in this draft. Coming about the break move, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.040 the freight Move the freight Magellan Transport voted the coolest 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.639 office space in Jacksonville. You can apply online at Magellan 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:05.800 Logistics dot com. 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.320 I honestly haven't even thought that far, you know, Like 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:13.080 I honestly it's really got to be a completely one 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.040 day at a time approach. Like a yeah, you're always 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:20.199 feeling like you're adding levels of competition and depth to 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:22.560 the to the roster. Is exactly what we did. We 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:24.840 do feel like we got, we got better and improved. 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:27.520 We will not have a clue until we do this 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.360 thing more than a week here, you know, in terms 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.440 of being on the grass, because we haven't even been 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:36.080 able to truly play football yet. So the focus is 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:39.760 so deeply rooted in the culture, the way that they're 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.440 going to play, our style of play, teaching those elements, 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.320 and now we have to go and get an entire 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.120 rookie class onboarded. I mean, that's a lot of work. 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:48.280 So the focus is. 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:52.240