WEBVTT - Catching Up with the Crypto Editors

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Stacy Marie Ishmael, Managing editor of Crypto for Bloomberg News,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is Bloomberg Crypto, a daily Bloomberg I heart podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Friday, August. The day to day a pulse of

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<v Speaker 1>crypto can be unrelenting and no two days are alike,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad I get to spend those days with

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<v Speaker 1>my colleagues on the Bloomberg Crypto team to help me

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<v Speaker 1>distill the latest developments in the world of digital assets

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<v Speaker 1>for all of you are listeners and all of our

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<v Speaker 1>readers of our stories. Today, I'm joined once again by

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg senior editors Anna Irrera. There's always someone waking up,

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<v Speaker 1>always someone needing an edit, always someone with a story idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and Philip Blogger, cancer prosecutors doing raid on different crypto exchanges,

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<v Speaker 1>people's homes for the latest Friday in the editor's room

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<v Speaker 1>at Welcome back to the podcast. Hi, thank you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you were joining us today from your closet.

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<v Speaker 1>I am indeed, this is my preferred location for podcast recordings.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wonderful and cozy and probably around forty degrees celsius,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like what a hundred ninety I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the glamorous life of Bloomberg editor podcasting and

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<v Speaker 1>Phil you are in frankly more glamorous surroundings than one

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<v Speaker 1>of the like gorgeous conference rooms in the Zurich office.

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<v Speaker 1>How's life over there? Live is good? Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Excellence This week, like every other week, I feel that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I was kind of reviewing the file,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, we published a lot of stories

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of things. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I've noticed is that since you joined, which was just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of months ago, at this point, your byline

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<v Speaker 1>has popped up with almost equal frequency in the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>reported by Field as it has in the edited by Field.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd love for you to just talk a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about what it's like having been a reporter in

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<v Speaker 1>Crypto for a long time and now, you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>primarily an editor but still kind of contributing to reporting

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<v Speaker 1>in the way that you have been. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm still reporting because maybe at heart I

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<v Speaker 1>will always be a reporter. And I guess many editors

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<v Speaker 1>are the same way, right, because that's the way you

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<v Speaker 1>become an editor often is because you were a reporter before.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think in specifically with crypto, I feel it's

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<v Speaker 1>helpful to be reporting also to an extent because you're

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<v Speaker 1>keeping taps on what's going on, and you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>helps when you're editing too because you have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>heard from sources as well, and so you can also

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<v Speaker 1>help reporters frame stories and help with sourcing as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Just make sure that everything you know is solid, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe sometimes a reporter has done great reporting,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're struggling a bit on how to like frame

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<v Speaker 1>it or get the angle right. And if you're speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to people in the sector as well, or people not

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<v Speaker 1>in the sector but have but who have views on it,

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<v Speaker 1>you can help shape that in a way that's more

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<v Speaker 1>I guess accurate or compelling or whatever the case is.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just always fun, you know, Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of my favorite parts of the job is

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to people and then writing stories and finding out things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm happy that I still get to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially things that people don't want to tell us. Love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about those. I'm reminded of something that a

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<v Speaker 1>former editor of mine, Ben Smith, who is now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the founding editor at Semaphore, used to say when we

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<v Speaker 1>were at BuzzFeed News, and it is that being a

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<v Speaker 1>reporter is the most fun job that anybody in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the newsroom can have. And he said this while

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<v Speaker 1>he was editor in chief, and all of us the

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<v Speaker 1>editors were like, I guess our jobs are fun too.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think that having your main responsibility to

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<v Speaker 1>be like going out and finding stuff out and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, writing it down or recording it for audio

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<v Speaker 1>or sharing it on video, is is a pretty a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting way to spend time. For sure. Sometimes I

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<v Speaker 1>still think, is this my job? Like this is so cool?

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<v Speaker 1>I get to do this, like it's my job, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I speak to people and like, you know, you get

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<v Speaker 1>front and row seats for what's going on in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>even if I mean, you know, obviously depending on the

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<v Speaker 1>beat you cover, it's more you know, relevant to the

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<v Speaker 1>course of humanity or not. But in any case, wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you are, you are seeing, like, you know, an industry developed,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, big decisions being made, So it's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still kind of in love with it, so that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess right. I will not answer the question of

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<v Speaker 1>whether crypto is relevant to the course of You might

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<v Speaker 1>go to Phil because Phil, you too, you've been an

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<v Speaker 1>editor at Bloomberg for a longer time than me or

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<v Speaker 1>on a combined but you've also you know, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>wild stuff happening in the markets, and I wake up

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning in the the U. S. Time zone

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<v Speaker 1>and I see a Phil larger cross little byeline, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what's that like? Yeah, I mean there is a there

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<v Speaker 1>is a very large element as an editor at Bloomberg,

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<v Speaker 1>I think of writing and sometimes from scratch. In my position,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had I've taken copy from many parts of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and crypto is, as you know, it can be fairly technical,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a fairly nascent field. And and and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you do have to do sort of the quite invasive

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<v Speaker 1>writing of things that are filed or you know, rewriting

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<v Speaker 1>maybe something that you need to do. But also as

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<v Speaker 1>an editor, you you need to be able to step

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<v Speaker 1>in and write from the top down sometimes, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you know people are out, reporters are out doing what

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<v Speaker 1>they should be doing. Are you reporting um? And you're

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<v Speaker 1>there and it can be written up quickly and cleanly,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it can be very rewarding to write something

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<v Speaker 1>from scratch as well. Yeah, just like a reminder that

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<v Speaker 1>we know how sometimes for for ourselves, but for our

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<v Speaker 1>teams as well. There's something that you said about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you something will come in and I know you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about helping folks frame things, and and you know, Phil,

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about the kind of the technical hurdles and

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<v Speaker 1>barriers that people face. We've talked on this podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>Phil you've shared the fact that you know, anybody kind

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<v Speaker 1>of coming into this asset class from a journalistic perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>encounters words, stats, metrics, things that you may not have

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<v Speaker 1>seen previously, even if you have deep financial markets expertise

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<v Speaker 1>or have over other markets for years. What are some

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<v Speaker 1>of the kinds of things that you see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in in copy maybe that you think to yourself, Oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I did not know what this was.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's good to be able to guide somebody along

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<v Speaker 1>that path. You know, nine months ago I would have

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<v Speaker 1>said that I had no idea what the DeFi was.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not have described that to you at all.

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<v Speaker 1>An algorithmic stable coin would be another example. We had

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<v Speaker 1>to take a crash course and that back in May

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<v Speaker 1>or many of us, you know, especially missed myself. Blockchain

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<v Speaker 1>bridges well, n f T, so I had a vague idea.

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<v Speaker 1>The interesting thing about the crypto bait as like every

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<v Speaker 1>month there is a new set of terms that you

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<v Speaker 1>get introduced to. UM. This year it's often been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in conjunction with said invention crashing spectacularly, and I fully

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<v Speaker 1>expect that to continue. It's you know, it just rolls

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<v Speaker 1>out every single time. I don't think there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>month since I started this bait that I haven't come

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<v Speaker 1>to face with a new a new set of terms

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<v Speaker 1>that I needed to all use upun come to terms

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<v Speaker 1>with h and that you know, for me, that's always

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<v Speaker 1>been one of the attractions of asset classes like this

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<v Speaker 1>is you're you're constantly learning, right, And I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that folks criticize journalists force They're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't know what you were talking about six months ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, like that's that's kind of the point. Sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>It's that you balance deep expertise and proficiency in certain

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<v Speaker 1>things with an ability to become deeply experts and deeply

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<v Speaker 1>proficients and other things in it sometimes aggressively short amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and you know, learning how to learn is

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<v Speaker 1>on on deadline and under pressure while somebody on the

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<v Speaker 1>other end of the line is potentially yelling at you. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's certainly helped me in being able to cover

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<v Speaker 1>cover markets like this at the time, like the one

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<v Speaker 1>we're dealing with right now. Phil, I also to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about you know, you and Anna are both in

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<v Speaker 1>kind of are like European time zone, European offices. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the advantages or disadvantages you could disagree with me,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the things about that is it lets

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<v Speaker 1>you get a lot of overlap with the sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the Asia Pacific day as well as the US day.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, you know, to use a phrase that you

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<v Speaker 1>used earlier, you both have front row seats to a

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<v Speaker 1>different kind of thing, which is like how the markets

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<v Speaker 1>and the coverage and the companies are different. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the the day shifts and you know, like Asia starts

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<v Speaker 1>going to sleep in Europe starts waking up, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the US comes on stream. What have been some of

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<v Speaker 1>the kinds of stories coming out of Asia that you've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to edit that sort of give folks a

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<v Speaker 1>sense of that global scoop of our coverage. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>from the get go, I think it was early January

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<v Speaker 1>we started getting stories out of Japan UM and there

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<v Speaker 1>was some interesting stories about how the Japanese UM Cryptox

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<v Speaker 1>Changed Association was overhauling listing rules for crypto tokens, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was really like the reporter in Tokyo was new

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<v Speaker 1>to the subject. I was very new to the subject,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a very interesting thing because it was

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<v Speaker 1>a complete rethink of how they were going, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>through the process of of screening new tokens for listings.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was one UM. The whole Korea Terraform

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<v Speaker 1>Lab story has been another. UM Korea for those who

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<v Speaker 1>aren't too familiar with this story, has launched an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>into the circumstances around Terraform Labs and the collapse of

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<v Speaker 1>the terra USD stable coin, and there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of stories around that and how that that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>moved through the judicial system with prosecutors doing raid on

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<v Speaker 1>different crypto exchanges, people's homes and things like that that

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<v Speaker 1>have been breaking over the past month or two and

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<v Speaker 1>has been very very interesting and rewarding to be part

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<v Speaker 1>of as well. And and uh, you know, you being

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<v Speaker 1>in our London office are often interacting obviously with folks there,

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<v Speaker 1>but also like our teams and Brussels who cover the

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<v Speaker 1>the European Union, or you know, other like our fintech

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<v Speaker 1>reporters who are writing about various elements of the the

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<v Speaker 1>UK market. What has it been like for you now

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<v Speaker 1>being in this endless see of stuff to do and

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<v Speaker 1>people to encounter. It's been great. I mean, I Phil

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<v Speaker 1>was like everyone deserving of a holiday, so he was

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<v Speaker 1>gone for a few weeks and I really got to

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the you know how hard it's been like to

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<v Speaker 1>cover two different time zones, right, because you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>always someone waking up, always someone needing an edit, always something,

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<v Speaker 1>someone with a story idea, which is great because it's

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<v Speaker 1>better to have more than less, but it is quite consuming.

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<v Speaker 1>Um As for the sort of geographical distribution of things

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<v Speaker 1>that it's been really fascinating because obviously with the Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 1>we have reporters everywhere, and so while we might not

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<v Speaker 1>have Crypto specific reporters everywhere, you know, Crypto is a

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<v Speaker 1>story that touches upon everything you mentioned. Brussels, so the

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<v Speaker 1>ECB is thinking of launching a digital token, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>I've been speaking to the reporter there and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out sort of what interesting stories we can do.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, there was a big conference in Paris,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were lazing with the reporter in Paris. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's just been really really fascinating, um and interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to cover it as a global story rather than just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a local story, which it's not, because crypto

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<v Speaker 1>in its very nature is a global sort of asset

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<v Speaker 1>class that doesn't have time zones or you know, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>never shuts down, never sleeps. Coming up some more of

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<v Speaker 1>what we're watching in crypto as we head into next

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<v Speaker 1>week from Bloomberg Crypto Senior editors Anna Arera and Philip

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<v Speaker 1>Blogger Cranso. One of the the elements of crypto that

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<v Speaker 1>is global. It means that our coverage has to be global,

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<v Speaker 1>but it also means in lots of different places. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you are listening to this podcast and

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<v Speaker 1>you've listened to the end, first of all, shout out

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<v Speaker 1>to you, thank you for listening to the end. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things you've heard is, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>always say hey, you can find more of our coverage

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<v Speaker 1>on the terminal on Bloomberg dot com or follow us

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. We are also responsible for things like a

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<v Speaker 1>newsletter we're responsible for. You know, we have colleagues who

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<v Speaker 1>work on uh Bloomberg Television where they do various types

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<v Speaker 1>of crypto coverage, including a weekly show. In addition to

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<v Speaker 1>what we do on Bloomberg Television, we also have a

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<v Speaker 1>video streaming product called quick Take, you know, which has

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<v Speaker 1>sort of more social friendly videos that are often quite short,

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<v Speaker 1>quite accessible, regularly cover crypto and a range of other topics.

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes think about how many different ways people who

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<v Speaker 1>are interested in crypto like have to get access to

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<v Speaker 1>their information, you know, whether it's they're watching TikTok's if

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<v Speaker 1>people explaining why they bought a certain toka, or three

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<v Speaker 1>hour long YouTube videos of somebody going on a deep

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<v Speaker 1>investigative dive into unnamed companies, dubious financial statements. What are

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<v Speaker 1>y'all reading or watching or listening to? That is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of crypto related but doesn't come from Bloomberg right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know it makes me sound very millennial,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do still get a lot of stuff out

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<v Speaker 1>from Twitter, and you know, because I do find people

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<v Speaker 1>still are able to share even concise opinions, and then

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<v Speaker 1>from there then on they linked me to other places,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know it makes me sound very boring. And

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<v Speaker 1>obviously podcasts are also something that's easy to learn from

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<v Speaker 1>because you can be doing something else while you're you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's quite valuable because reading, you know, we might

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<v Speaker 1>not actually have the time, or you know, you just

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<v Speaker 1>need to be more focused. But still do read all

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<v Speaker 1>of our stories from the beginning to the end because

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<v Speaker 1>we care about kickers very much. We take much you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pride in the last quote, so please read it. I did.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't tend to read the Financial Times scrypto coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to my former colleagues. Yeah, shout shout out.

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<v Speaker 1>They break a fair bit of news on crypto. They write,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fairly critically about crypto. I also, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as a general sort of I enjoy the Bloomberg big Takes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the format is nice, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're usually almost always stories that that kind of hit

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<v Speaker 1>it right on the bottom, well reported, well executed. While

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<v Speaker 1>I did, I'm very proud to see that the Crypto

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<v Speaker 1>team has been punched I think above its own weight

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of getting stories on as big takes, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's very nice for somebody who's not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with the big take. How would you describe it? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a you know, selection of basically highlighting our

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<v Speaker 1>best work, um be it often often it's enterprise of

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<v Speaker 1>some sort big feature stories, but sometimes it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big breaking news that we are just giving the royal treatment.

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<v Speaker 1>Um I believe there was a story about Goldman Sachs

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<v Speaker 1>and you know there their travails with community consumer banking

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<v Speaker 1>fairly recently. That was off a breaking news, but but

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<v Speaker 1>given the sort of big treatment, so it could be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of everything. But usually they are stories

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<v Speaker 1>that have a good visual element, a good graphical element,

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<v Speaker 1>nice storytelling and and very interesting information in them. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a great big take a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 1>about mayonnaise, like for real, for real, you know Tracy Alloway,

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<v Speaker 1>who some of you may have heard because she's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>part of the Odd Lots squad. But the title of

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<v Speaker 1>that story was what the Great Mayonnaise Inflation Mystery can

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<v Speaker 1>tell Us about prices? And it was just this incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>well written deep dive into you know, inflation and supply

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<v Speaker 1>chains and how things how prices are calculated, using mayonnaise

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<v Speaker 1>as an example, and as somebody it doesn't even particularly

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe he is so sort of fascinated by by that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was, if you will excuse the pun, a

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<v Speaker 1>good flavor of what the Big take has to offer

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<v Speaker 1>on that awful pun note, I think I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>y'all go back to your well. Hopefully Anna you can

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<v Speaker 1>get out of the physical closet that you are in

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<v Speaker 1>and back to your your your virtual or real desk.

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<v Speaker 1>And Phil, thank you so much for as always for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us from Zurich. Thank you, thank you. You can

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<v Speaker 1>find all of our work on the Bloomberg Terminal, on

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg dot com, on Twitter, and in that Bloomberg Crypto

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<v Speaker 1>newsletter that I mentioned. Anna is at Anna Arera on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's I R R E r A, and Phil is

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<v Speaker 1>at lager Crancer. That's l A g e r k

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<v Speaker 1>r A n s e R. On the next episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Bloomberg Crypto, n f T prices might have cooled

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<v Speaker 1>significantly from their recent highs, but luxury brands are still

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<v Speaker 1>betting that clients wants exposure to these tokens. For more

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<v Speaker 1>on why brands like Gucci and Tiffany are embracing n

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<v Speaker 1>f T s, tune into the episode dropping on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>August twenty nine. This is Bloomberg Crypto, a daily podcast

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