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It's spent about fifteen years anchoring various 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: programs on Fox News. Author of the number one New 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: York Times best selling book, If I Do say so Myself, 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: The Russia Hoax, The Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: and frame Donald Trump. You can still order it on 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble and Amazon dot Com, or go down 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: to your local bookstore and pick it up. It is 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: the I Think Desk reference for all of the corruption 35 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: that the FBI and the Department of Justice in clearing 36 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton and then shutting up Donald Trump trying to 37 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: frame him for the things he didn't do. So here 38 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: we are, just four days away from Christmas, and the 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: government is supposed to shut down at midnight. So I'm 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: going to talk about that over the course of the 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: next hour. I love to hear your opinion. I happen 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: to be of the opinion let's shut down the government. 43 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: What do you think? Give us a call at one 44 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: eight hundred nine four one sean, that's one eight hundred 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: nine four one seven three two six. All right, So 46 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: here's a novel concept. I am all for shutting down 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: the US government at midnight. Let's do it. Why not? 48 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean, after all, it doesn't really mean that the 49 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: entire US government and all of its operations will actually close. 50 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: So pay no attention to the media and liberal hysteria. 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: You know that lives will be lost, the sun won't rise, 52 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: the world will stop spinning on its axis. Nonsense, None 53 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: of that's going to happen, because the term government shutdown 54 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: is one of the classic Washington canards that people love 55 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: to pedal to scare Americans. The truth is, the government 56 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: keeps on running. After midnight when the funding runs out, 57 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: less than twenty percent of the government actually comes to 58 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: a temporary halt. Non essential workers will go home, they 59 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: get an early vacation. They do get paid, not right 60 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: then and there, but after the fact, that's the law. 61 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: So they're all for it. Great, let's go home. I 62 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: don't have to work, I get paid for it. So 63 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 1: here's the logical and inexorable question. Why do we even 64 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: have non essential workers? Why would the government be hiring 65 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: non essential people? People who are not doing important and 66 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: essential work on behalf of Americans who are paying their salaries. 67 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: What's with the tens of thousands of people who don't 68 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: do anything essential as they work for the government. Why 69 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: are we paying them to do nothing vital or significant? 70 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: Think about this. One American business could ever operate that way. 71 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: Corporations and small businesses all over America only hire people 72 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: that they actually need to work and perform services. This 73 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: is a fundamental principle of a free market economy, where 74 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: the goal is to make a profit. I mean, if 75 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: a business operated the way the federal government does, hiring 76 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: loads of people they don't I really need, how long 77 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: would that business last in a competitive marketplace? It would not. 78 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: But the US government, as you well know, is the 79 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: single most inefficient and abysmally run disorganization in the world. 80 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: It squanders your hard earned taxpayer dollars on stupid stuff 81 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: and salaries for people that it doesn't actually need. It 82 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: is idiotic, which I realize is redundant when you're talking 83 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: about the federal government. Here's another question. Do the vast 84 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: majority of Americans even care if the government shut down now? 85 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: Because eighty percent of all services will continue. Your Social 86 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 1: Security checks, they keep on coming, Medicare, Medicaid uninterrupted, postal 87 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: service doors open, TSA agents at the nation's airports still there, 88 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: still frisking your crotching your butt. Border agents. They're on 89 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: the job, trying to keep us safe. VA hospitals. Nobody 90 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: is pulling the plug on the veterans who to whom 91 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: we owe so much. Unfortunately, the federal courts stay open. 92 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: And you know, given how so many judges have become 93 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: so politicized, and some of them, like Emmett Sullivan, oblivious 94 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: to the laws we learned this week, giving all of 95 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: them a pink slip would be my idea of a 96 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: very merry Christmas. Sure, some parks across America might close 97 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: for a while, not all of them. Your FHA loan 98 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: might get slowed a bit, getting a passport renewed might 99 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: take a bit longer. All right, we can live with that. 100 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: But back to my principal question, do Americans really care? 101 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: They do not. Government shutdowns have become routine. There have 102 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: been eighteen government shutdowns since nineteen seventy six, when the 103 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: modern budgetary process underwent a major makeover. We have them 104 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: all the time. Last one was just eleven months ago. 105 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: Did the world come to an end? No, Most Americans 106 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: simply yawned and moved on with their busy lives. They 107 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: didn't care then, and trust me, they don't care. Beginning 108 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: at midnight tonight. The only people who seem to have 109 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: a conniption fit are the usual suspects. Nancy Pelosi Chuck Schumer, 110 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: apoplectic that President Trump would allow the government to shut 111 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: down over a measly five billion dollars appropriation to build 112 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: a wall. Measily because our annual budget is four point 113 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: four trillion dollars, so five billion is a drop in 114 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: the bucket. But you know, Pelosi and Schumer predict that 115 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: the sky will fall. They are the classic chicken littles 116 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: of Capitol Hill. A couple of hours ago, Schumer was 117 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: on the floor of the Senate renting turmoil chaos. I'll 118 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: let you in on a little secret. Pelosi and Schumer 119 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: career politicians couldn't competently manage a dairy queen. That is 120 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: why they are politicians. They couldn't cut it in the 121 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: real world. So frankly, pay no attention to their constant, 122 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: incessant blather about impending doom over a government shutdown ain't 123 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: gonna happen. And here's an idea for you. Let's permanently 124 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: fire all non essential government workers. Not right away. I 125 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: don't want to be a grinsch at Christmas, but let's 126 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: phase those jobs out in the next year. If they're 127 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: not essential, they shouldn't be getting a free ride on 128 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: your taxpayer dime. Go out there in the real world, folks, 129 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: and get an essential job. And here's another idea. I 130 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: stole this one from an excellent column penned by former 131 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: Representative Jason Chaffitz. You can read it on the Fox 132 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: News website. But his point is this, As I mentioned, 133 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: our current annual budget four point four trillion dollars. One 134 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: trillion of that is what's called discretionary spending. In other words, 135 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Congress is supposed to authorize programs and appropriate funds from 136 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: this one trillion dollars. But here's the deal. They don't 137 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: really do that. Some of their authorizations in that one 138 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: trillion are undefined and broad. So Trump should grab a 139 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: mere five billion of that and spend it to construct 140 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: the wall. Perfectly legal. And after all members of Congress 141 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: do something similar. They insert all kinds of funding for 142 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: pet projects into bills. It's called pork. In reality, it's 143 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, payola to the people who support them. Or 144 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: they earmark funds for constituent interests that are not fully authorized. 145 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: So President Trump should simply fund the wall by just 146 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: spending a fraction of the one trillion indiscretionary funds. He 147 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: would be using his discretion to do so. Now, of course, 148 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: one of the great ironies in all of this is 149 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: that Pelosi and Schumer have long advocated building a wall 150 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: or a barrier or a fence pretty much the same stuff. 151 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: A mere five years ago, the entire Senate Democratic Caucus 152 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: voted for hundreds of miles of fencing along the US 153 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: Mexican border. Yet now many of those same Democrats are 154 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: blasting Trump because guess what, he wants the same thing. 155 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: So why are they flip flopping on it? You know 156 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: the reason? Because Trump wants it, the Democrats want it 157 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: to But they won't tell you that. They just want 158 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: to oppose anything Trump advocates, even if it's the same 159 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: thing they want. They don't want to give the President 160 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: a victory on one of the main promises he made 161 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: to the American people when they elected it. You know, 162 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: that would hurt the Democrats politically. So, as you know, folks, 163 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: it's all politics. Democrats pretend to care about you. They 164 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: pretend to be acting on principle. They wouldn't know principle 165 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: if it's smacked them upside the head. You can go 166 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: back even further. Two thousand and six, Democrats in the 167 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: Senate wanted a barrier on the southern border. Hillary Clinton, 168 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: then Senator Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, all voting 169 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: in favor of what was called the Secure Fence Act, 170 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: which would add and I'll quote here from the bill, 171 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: two layers of reinforced fencing installation of additional physical barriers. Now, 172 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: of course, those same Democrats suddenly have an acute case 173 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: of amnesia, so wonder they can remember their own names. 174 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: But for now, it looks like the Senate will not 175 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: pass with the House past, which is funding for the wall. 176 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: How can that be inasmuch as Republicans control the US Senate, 177 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: and the answer is one word, filibuster. A year and 178 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: a half ago I wrote a column entitled time to 179 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: say goodbye to the Senate filibuster forever and for everything, 180 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: And I say it again, get rid of the filibuster. 181 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: It is tyranny by the minority. It is destructive, not constructive. 182 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: It's nowhere in the Constitution. It is a rule contrived 183 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: by the feckless Senate. It is undemocratic. It has done 184 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: more to obstruct needed legislation in America than any other 185 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: artificial device the Congress has ever conjured. So what do 186 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: you think you agree or disagree? I'm all for letting 187 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: the government shut down at midnight tonight, and let's get 188 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: rid of all of these non essential employees. Give us 189 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: a caller number is one eight hundred and nine four 190 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: one seven three two six. 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But 208 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: just go to Jewel, Juul dot com slash switch America. 209 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: And Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg 210 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: Jarrett sitting in for Sean Hannity today. All right, you 211 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: heard my statement. I hope that the government shutdown is 212 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: frankly no big deal, and let's go ahead and shut 213 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: down the government. The president wants the wall. Sixty percent 214 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: of Americans want the wall. The Democrats want the wall, 215 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: or at least they have over the last decade, but 216 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: now they oppose the wall because Donald Trump wants it. 217 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: So let's shut down the government. Why not. Our first 218 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: caller is Mike in Ohio. Mike, what do you think, 219 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: absolutely shut down the government. We have six point eight 220 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: million children under the age eight teen on assistance in 221 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: this country estimated. If you think that they are only 222 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: using five thousand dollars each and assistance which would even 223 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: cover their health insurance five thousand a year, that's three 224 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: hundred and forty billion dollars a year that they're taking 225 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: away from our money. Three hundred and forty billion dollars. 226 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: What is five billion dollars? Right? What is t billion dollars? Right? 227 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: It's nothing. It's absolutely minute, and that will last forever. 228 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: The Pew Research Centers had that they estimate nine the 229 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: wall might only deflect nine to twelve percent of people 230 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: trying to cross the border illegally. Who cares how many 231 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: it is nine to twelve percent. That's still a lot 232 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: of people, all right, Mike Ohio, good points, good stats. 233 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: Thanks very much. Let's go to Don in Indiana. Hey, Don, 234 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: government shutdown year and a oh, yes, I think we 235 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: ought to shut it down. I don't. It'll hurt a thing, right, 236 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's actually largely dysfunctional to 237 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: begin with. And what aggravates me is that we've we've 238 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: got tens of thousands of non essential employees. Like, what's 239 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: up with that non essential sort? What do they do? 240 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: I work a government job for thirty years. I never 241 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: noticed it when they shut it down. You're right, there 242 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: have been eighteen government shutdowns, like, who cares? Yeah, all right, 243 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't see where it's a big deal done Indiana Dohn, 244 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: Thanks very much. Let's go to Cory in Oklahoma. Hey, Corey, Um, 245 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: what do you think about my argument that, you know, 246 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: who cares, let's just shut down the government. It's only 247 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: twenty percent less than that and non essential people will 248 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: get an early furlough for Christmas. What do you think? Yeah, 249 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: I agree with the government shutdown. I mean, I also 250 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: agree with the fact that the government's incredibly dysfunctional in 251 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: the way that they operate things. But I also want 252 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: to say I work for the government, and I'm also 253 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: a veteran, and I'm classified in a job that is 254 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: it's classified as non essential. But I think that maybe 255 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: some of those jobs are potentially misclassified. I mean, we 256 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: support production for aircraft engines for the warfighter, right, and 257 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: I just don't feel like that should be classified as 258 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: non essential. Right. I agree, that sounds like something that 259 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: is quite essential. Thank you for your service, Corey in Oklahoma. 260 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for the good point you just made. Let's go 261 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: to George in New York. George, Welcome to the Sean 262 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: Hannity Show. What do you think, George? We lost the 263 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: less government as it is here, we got you, George, 264 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: less government. I agree with you. Let's not just shut 265 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: down the government. Let's shrink the government down to a 266 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: usable functional size. When we come back, Gerald, Tom McInerney 267 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: will join us about the resignation of James Maddis. Welcome 268 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: back to the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jared filling 269 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: in for Sean Hannity. One of the big news stories 270 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: of the week was the President's decision announced to withdraw 271 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: roughly two thousand American troops from Syria. The President said, 272 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: ISUS has been defeated, it's time to send our people 273 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 1: in uniform home. James Madis, Secretary of Defense, clearly disagreed 274 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: with it. He submitted his letter of resignation as Defense Secretary. Now, 275 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: the first thing that should be said is that James 276 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: Maddis is a brilliant general who deserves our nation's gratitude 277 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: and respect for his exemplary service and professionalism. So the 278 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: question is is matdis doing the right thing. Let's turn 279 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: now to General Thomas McInerney, who is a retired US 280 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: Air Force a lieutenant general, served in top military positions 281 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: under the Secretary of Defense in the Vice President of 282 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: the United States. General McNerney, always great talking to you. 283 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for taking the time to speak with us. Thanks 284 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: for having me, Greg, what is your reaction to all 285 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: of this? Well, I was quite surprised when the President 286 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: announced it, but and there was really surprised when the 287 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense, Mattis, submitted his resignation. And although there 288 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: had been rumors Greg that he might be leaving, right, 289 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: in fact was I was surprised at this time. Now, 290 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: let's examine what happened. The President is pulling out of Syria. 291 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: We had two twenty two hundred people in there, primarily 292 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: on the board or not in the north and it 293 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: was initial purpose was to take out ISIS. ISIS has 294 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: been largely defeated. And for those people, let's say, well, 295 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: it's going to resurrect itself. I don't think it will. 296 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: But what I do hope is is that President Trump 297 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: will use air power along with our other allies over 298 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: in the region to keep and suppress Isis. Do we 299 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: have air power in the region? Correct, correct, and readily 300 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: available to do it with precision, and we have the 301 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: intelligence so we can do it. You know, Greg, We've 302 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: been at this seventeen and a half years now and 303 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: we've had a ground presence, and really we haven't done 304 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: what needed to be done. We did World War two, 305 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: completed it in three and a half years. Now. We 306 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: cannot be there perpetually. They must solve the problem. There 307 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: are two problems in the Middle East. It's radical Islam 308 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: led by Iran and others, and then there's the emerging 309 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: expanding Iranian the Shia Crescent that is sweeping across the 310 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: Arabian An Insulat. Two related adversaries. But the fact is 311 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: Iran is the nation state that is fomenting radical Islam 312 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: in the region as well as this version of Shia 313 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: of ascendency in the region. Right we clearly must put 314 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: that at rest. Now, if we go back and see 315 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: how we got in Syria and the conditions, etc. It 316 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: becomes obvious that this president, after two years, has finally 317 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: not gotten the rationale from his generals to keep the 318 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: large ground forces over there, right, And so I think 319 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: it's reasonable now he may not have worked it hard 320 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: enough across the the with our allies and others. He 321 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: made a decision, right, and I support that decision. Well, 322 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: what about that Mattis's decision to say I'm quitting over this? Well, 323 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: I was disappointed, but I'm a great fan of General Mattis, 324 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: but he has been part of the ground centric sets 325 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: strategy over there. Ground centric. Our advantage is not man 326 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: for man on the ground. Our advantage is with our 327 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: technology and air power. And that's how we basically knocked 328 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: Isis out, isn't it. We did put in five divisions, 329 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: we used air power in going after them, and if 330 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: the President continues to use that to keep iis suppressed. 331 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: But also let's let's switch quickly over to the issue 332 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: on and I'll get back on General Madis on how 333 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: do we take Iran out of the the expansionary mode, 334 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: particularly after the Obama administration gave them so much money 335 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: for the nuclear agreement and enable them so much, but 336 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: now their economy is faltering. Now here's where my problem 337 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: with General mattis. He may have seen something coming, but 338 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: the fact is this is not the time that he 339 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: should have submitted his resignation in my opinion. Yeah, and 340 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: why well, because I think when a president has made 341 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: a decision like this, it is up to the Secretary 342 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: Defense to help explain it to our allies and to 343 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: our own population, the American people. Right, it is not general. 344 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: It's not uncommon that a cabinet official will disagree with 345 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: the decision of the president, who is his boss. And 346 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: you know, if everybody's going to quit because they disagree 347 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: with a decision by the commander in chief, then we're 348 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: in a sorry state here. I mean, look, he should 349 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: have been no surprise to Mattis that the president, after 350 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: defeating Isis, wanted to pull out of Syria. He campaigned 351 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: on that pledge, and yet you know Matdis is resigning 352 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: over this. It just strikes me that Mattis should not 353 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: have accepted the job if he so vehemently disagreed with 354 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: the president and the policies that he laid out on 355 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: the campaign trail. He said several things. He said, first 356 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: of all, we can't be the world's policeman. We can't 357 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: engage anymore in nation building that didn't work. We really 358 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: cannot change the power balance in the Middle East. We 359 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: need to rip up the Iran nuclear deal. We need 360 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: to make NATO allies actually pay their fair share, and 361 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: we need to again defeat ISIS and get out of Syria. 362 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: So Maddis knew all of this. So did he think 363 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: he was going to persuade the president otherwise as Secretary 364 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: of Defense. Well, that's the question. And I think you 365 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: and I are the same mindset that he knew what 366 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: he was getting into more than anywhe else because he'd 367 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: been a combatant commander, division commander and the Operation Iraqi Freedom, 368 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: a great military leader. His political instincts were a little 369 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: bit maybe more balance, more in between Republican and Democrat 370 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: and a strong Republican. And I say that because some 371 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: of the people he tried to nominate, and I won't 372 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: give you the names, but they were solid Democratic Party 373 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: leaders and they wanted them in important positions in the building. 374 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: And I think that was bothering the president. A little bit, 375 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: but luck he had a great reputation, having a nick 376 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: name by the name of it was worth the wing 377 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,239 Speaker 1: of nuclear B fifty two's if you will, for deterrence, right, 378 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: But he clearly was not that bad. Let me an 379 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: important person, if I may, Let me ask you another question. 380 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: The position of Secretary of Defense is authorized by statute 381 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: passed by Congress, and they were very deliberate. They wanted 382 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: a civilian control of the government, and especially with respect 383 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: to whomever presided over the Pentagon and American military. And 384 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: so it's actually written in the law that the Secretary 385 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: Defense appointed by the President may not have held a 386 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: position in the previous seven years in active military. Now, 387 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: Congress gave a waiver to Mattus at the president's request. 388 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: But does this underscore there perhaps this country is better 389 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: served with somebody who is not and having immediately been 390 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: a general or a military commander serving as Secretary Defense. Well, 391 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: it was certainly they put a lot of thought behind it. 392 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: In this particular case. I don't think General Madis's experience 393 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: had any they gave him a waiver. And there's only 394 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: one other person in our history, and that was George Marshall. 395 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: So we're putting we're putting General Maddis in the same 396 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: category of George Marshall. Even Colin Powell, who became Secretary 397 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: of State didn't reach that stature. And so the fact is, 398 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,239 Speaker 1: for whatever his reason he made it, it's just that 399 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: the timing was not good because it is saying he 400 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: doesn't agree with the Syrian policy. Now the Syria and 401 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: also Afghanistan looking at drawing down seven thousand in Afghanistan, 402 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: but let's look at each one of them. Where those 403 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: two thousand Americans in Syria that we're helping the YPG, 404 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: the Kurdish People's Protection Units, was that what drove him out. Look, 405 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: those two thousand people were not the balance of power, No, 406 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: they weren't. They were training the Kurdish forces. Correct, and 407 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: so we can still do things. But here's here's the 408 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: underlying thing that I've just found out, Greg and I'm 409 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: not sure of it, but it was after a call 410 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: with the President Trump and the President Erdwan of Turkey 411 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: and the rumor, as you know, the Turks were going 412 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: to buy the S four hundred missile from the Russians, right, 413 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: and now there's a rumor that they're going to spend 414 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: three and a half billion dollars on Patriot missiles buying 415 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: US instead, as well as the multi billion dollars that 416 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: they're doing for the F thirty five, which the Congress 417 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: has put on a delay. And I think what's behind 418 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: this is that the president, President Trump saw the opportunity 419 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: to keep Turkey in our orbit rather than switching over 420 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: to the Russian orbit by buying US equipment. And some 421 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: may say, well, he saw the jobs issue, that was it, 422 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: But I think it's it's it makes sense now. I 423 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: believe if General Maddis understood that and was part of that, 424 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: that he would not have done what he would not 425 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: have retired from a sign, but I haven't confirmed that yet. 426 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: I'm putting a number of issues together, which it does 427 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: make sense because they are a southern flank on NATO. 428 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: They're important to us. Although Riduan in all honesty is 429 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: an Islamist Who've got to be very careful. He wants 430 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: to reinstitute the Ottoman Empire. He's got a great fight 431 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: going against Saudi Arabia because of he wants to be 432 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: the caliphate and be the leader, and he doesn't want 433 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, even though they're the protector of the Holy Cities. 434 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: He doesn't want them to be the dominant force. So 435 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: those are the complexities. But if he did it to 436 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: keep Turkey in the US orbit, well then that's a 437 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: that's a justifiable reason. So to general just to button 438 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: this up, where with General Tom McInerney retired US Air 439 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: Force Lieutenant general, to button this up. As you pointed out, 440 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: we have air power in the region. We can on 441 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: a moment's notice undertake a you know, a strategic tactical 442 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: strike if necessary. We also have General five thousand, two 443 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: hundred troops nearby in Iraq, so you know those troops 444 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: could could be mobilized as well in the event something 445 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: takes place in Syria that merits are presents there. But 446 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: you know, the president deserves to have people, as General 447 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: Maddis pointed out in his resignation letter, whose views are 448 00:30:53,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: better aligned with the presidents, and Maddis's views just weren't. 449 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: And you know, we don't elect presidents to have their 450 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: subordinates stop them from implementing their policies, especially policies of 451 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: the president ran on and so you know, this thing 452 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: has taken its course. Mattis served with its distinction for 453 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: two years, and I suppose it's it's time to get 454 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: somebody else in. I've got about uh forty seconds left. 455 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: General who might be good to replace matdis Well? There 456 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: are a number of people, and I think there's some 457 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: people in the in the in the Senate, there's some people, 458 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: uh that were previous. Uh. I did like the idea 459 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: that he that he had the way he brought in 460 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: both Kelly and uh General Maddis. Uh. I don't want 461 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: to throw out a name, but but the fact is 462 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: they're there and they're ones that will support this president completely. 463 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: All right, Well that's General Maddis did. But but the 464 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: fact is, as he elected, he wanted to go. All right, 465 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: General Tom McInerney always great talking to you, sir, Thank 466 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: you very very much for being with us. I'm Greg 467 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: Jareded filling in for Sean Hannity. Will pause and take 468 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 1: a quick break. More on the other side, and welcome 469 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: back to the Sean Hannity Show the second hour. I'm 470 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: Greg Jareded filling in for Sean. I wrote a book 471 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: called The Russia Hoax, The Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary 472 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: Clinton and framed Donald Trump. By the way, it might 473 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: make a nice little Christmas gift, all wrapped up under 474 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: the Christmas tree. You can still get it in your 475 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: bookstore nearby or ordered on Amazon dot com or Barnes 476 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: and Noble dot com. But it lays out, as the 477 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: subtitle indicates, that to corrupt people at the FBI, including 478 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: James Comey and his confederates, ignored compelling evidence that Hillary 479 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Clinton violated the law and committed crimes in her email scandal. 480 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: They contorted the law and twisted the facts to clear her. 481 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: And on the very same day that Comey stood in 482 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: front of television cameras July fifth, twenty and sixteen, absolving 483 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, his FBI was meeting secretly with the author 484 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: of the phony, fabricated dossier in London at a building, 485 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: a secret meeting, and that was the beginning of the 486 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: Russia hoax. Armed with a completely unverified, uncorroborated, fabricated document 487 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: which the FBI knew was phony, they launched an investigation 488 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump to destroy his candidacy. When that didn't work, 489 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: they doubled down and tried to remove him from office 490 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: by using that particular document. In the process, of course, 491 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: they lied to Afiicuccord to obtain a warrant a spy 492 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: on the Trump campaign. It's all in the book, but 493 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: more keeps happening. I recommended long ago the Jeff Sessions 494 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: be fired, the most useless Attorney General in modern American history, 495 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: and sure enough he was fired. The nominee to replace 496 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: him as William Barr, who has impeccable credentials, highly regarded lawyer, 497 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: who has already served as Attorney General from nineteen ninety 498 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: one to nineteen ninety three, and there's no question but 499 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: that he'll be confirmed. But that didn't stop Chuck Schumer. 500 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: Chuck I'd walk a mile for a camera, Schumer from 501 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: standing on the Senate floor yesterday and holding up a 502 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: nineteen page document that was penned by Bar saying this 503 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: disqualifies William Barr from being Attorney General. The nineteen pages, 504 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: by the way, is a meticulously correct analysis of the 505 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: law and obstruction of justice. Let's talk about it now 506 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: with David Shones, civil Liberty's attorney and one of the 507 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: finest lawyers in America that I know. David, Thanks for 508 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: being with us. I would argue that, far from being 509 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: a reason to disqualify Bar, those nineteen pages, which are 510 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: brilliantly written and well researched and well reasoned are a 511 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: reason to confirm William Barr, What do you think I 512 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: think you're I think everything you've just said is one 513 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent right. I don't think you need me to 514 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,959 Speaker 1: say anything. Frankly, and I happen to have your book 515 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: in my hand right now and I'm waiting for the sequel, 516 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: so you better get that written, thank you. But my 517 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: answer directly what you said is, of course, that's right. 518 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: Mister Barr wrote a scholarly piece, a piece that is correct. 519 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: And you know, as I've said before, we don't want 520 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: an attorney general who has been disengaged from the serious 521 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: issues of the day. We want someone who has given 522 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: thought to these issues. We want someone who has a view, 523 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: a reasoned, well thought out of you, and in his 524 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: memo that you refer to her erectly makes the argument 525 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: that we don't consider or interrogate or threaten the President 526 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: of the United States for exercising and properly exercising those 527 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: duties which are given to his discretion, like firing a 528 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: Jim Comey, which is the appropriate thing to do. Of course, 529 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: those kinds of regular course of the day Executive Branch 530 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: article to issue issues that are delegated to the President 531 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: under the Constitution, and so it's inappropriate, as mister Barr wrote, 532 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: to threaten or interrogate the President for obstruction of justice 533 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: for exercising those duties in the way the Constitution gives 534 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 1: them to the President to exercise. So he's right. And 535 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: by the way, the very idea that writing a memo 536 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: on one issue related possibly to the Muther investigation, could 537 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 1: be a disqualifying factor, It's not a matter of principle 538 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: at all for these folks. It happens that mister Barr's 539 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 1: position to something inconvenient for Chuck Schumer or Jerry Nadler, 540 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi and these kind of folks, But that's not 541 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: a principal position. They disagree with it, therefore he should 542 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: be disqualified. It's absurd as offensive. If you read the 543 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: recusal regulations and the Code of Federal Regulations, it doesn't 544 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: say that you're disqualified or you must recuse yourself because 545 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: you happen to have commented on a case either publicly 546 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: or privately. My goodness, if that were the legal standard, 547 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: nobody would be able to hold any position because we 548 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: all comment about prevailing issues in cases of the day, 549 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: sometimes privately, sometimes publicly. This was a private memo he 550 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: thought would be useful, so he sent it over to 551 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice for their consideration. The recusal statute 552 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: is very specific. It says, if the official has a 553 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: personal or political relationship with anybody involved in the case, 554 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: he or she must recuse themselves. Commenting on a case 555 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: is not David grounds for recusal, that's right. Their fallback 556 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: position is this provides the presents the appearance of partiality 557 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: or the appearance of a lack of impartiality and a bias. 558 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: They're just dead wrong. And if he hadn't written the 559 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: memo and it came out later that this was his 560 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: view on the executive branch, they would have said, oh, 561 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: he concealed his true views, and that was wrong. Listen, 562 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: this is exactly the kind of thing that will come 563 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: under his baiiwick. And it's good that we know how 564 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: he stands. In the Senate can vote one way or 565 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: the other based on that. But I'll say this very specifically. 566 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: Under the Special Council Regulation Section six hundred point seven, 567 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: the Attorney General has the obligation to demand that the 568 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: special counsel provide an explanation for any investigative or prosecutorial 569 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: step that the Attorney General thinks as questionable or possibly wrong, 570 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,880 Speaker 1: and so he will have the obligation, as mister Whittaker 571 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: has it now, to call in Muller and demand an 572 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: explanation if they're pursuing obstruction of justice charges, or if 573 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: they're interrogating people without Council press, and we're doing any 574 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: sort of sordid things that this team with an agenda 575 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: has done, It's time for the Attorney General to take control. 576 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: Sure the Council regulations don't provide for day to day control, 577 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: they do provide that ultimately the buck stops at the 578 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: Attorney General and that he has this supervisory obligation. You know, 579 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: the guy who has been presiding over the case speaking 580 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: of disqualification and recusal is Rod Rosenstein, who's the Deputy 581 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: Attorney General acting Attorney General for the Trump Russia collusion 582 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: and the Mueller probe. Talk about it a conflict of interest. 583 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: This is a guy who is a key witness in 584 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: the case, who's been interviewed by Mueller, and yet Rosenstein 585 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: presides over the case and is Mueller's boss. I mean, 586 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: this is a textbook example of a mandatory recusal, and 587 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: yet Rosenstein refuses to do so. Greg You've said this 588 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: from day one. You've said it as eloquently on day 589 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: one as you have now, and it applies with just 590 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: as much force. It's absurd, but it just points out 591 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: the hypocrisy of a Schumer or Nadler Pelosi and fill 592 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: in the blanks to focus on something like the Bar 593 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: factor the Bar memo as a recusal basis, and overlook 594 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: the direct direct involvement as a fact witness of Rod Rosenstein. 595 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: This is really the fox guarding the henhouse. It's a clear, 596 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 1: clear conflict. Let me switch over, if I may, to 597 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: the other event of the week, and that was the 598 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: sentencing hearing of Michael Flynn, who was briefly the National 599 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: Security advisor to President Trump. He was fired from the 600 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: job for deceiving the Vice President about a telephone call 601 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: he had with the Russian ambassador, which by the way, 602 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: was perfectly legal and normal and permissible. So at the hearing, 603 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: the federal judge presiding Emmett Sullivan, who frankly, you know, 604 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: I thought highly of by virtue of his handling of 605 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: the Ted Stevens case, and in which he called out 606 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: prosecutors for falsifying evidence and concealing exculpatory evidence. So I 607 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: thought that this was a judge who would look closely 608 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: at the conduct of the FBI and the conduct of 609 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: Robert Muller. Instead. Um, after begging Flynn to withdraw his 610 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: guilty plea for making a fault to misleading statement, suddenly 611 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: the judge turns and accuses Flynn of treason. Um, you know, 612 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: which is confounding because we're not at war with Turkey, 613 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: and the judge was talking about Flynn's lobbying efforts with Turkey. 614 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: Were you were you bewildered by that? Sure? I would 615 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: be willing. I think I think it plays out something 616 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 1: like this. I do think Emmett Sullivan is a great 617 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: judge generally. I think, however, that he has made pretty 618 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: clear his anti Trump sentiments. He wrote very very strong, 619 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: scathing decisions in two immigration cases, requiring radical relief returning 620 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: immigrants have been deported and stopping a plane. He feels 621 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 1: very strongly about these issues. However, he also, I believe, 622 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: genuinely felt strongly about the strong arm and inappropriate tactics 623 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: the FBI used in this case. But I think that frankly, 624 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, mister Flynn's lawyers made 625 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 1: a sort of an amateurish mistake. I hate to say 626 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: that past judgment and other lawyers used, but it's impossible 627 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: to understand their agenda. A lawyer, criminal defense lawyer always 628 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 1: approaches every setting in the process with a theory of 629 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 1: the case. The theory of the case that Flynn had 630 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 1: resolved to in this case because of the pressure brought 631 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: to Bear and his family and so on, was to 632 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: capitulate he joined the government's team. And once you joined 633 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: that team, you're all in. And so I don't understand 634 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: what the endgame was for the lawyers to write this 635 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: sentencing them about how great his cooperation has been, begging 636 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: for the mercy of the court and asking the court 637 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: to agree with the government he should get no incarceration, 638 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: and at the end talking about the government's misconduct as 639 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: if that should be a factor. Well, it can be 640 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: a factor in sentencing, but in this case, when you 641 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: already have a recommendation for non incarceration, what's the point 642 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 1: in throwing this on in mudding the waters there? If 643 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: you want to come clean about the government's strong arm tactics, 644 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: get your sentence in place for us, get that non 645 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: incarceration sentence, and then move on. But he put the 646 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,760 Speaker 1: judge in a very awkward and difficult position. And then 647 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: the natural consequence of what happened with the interrogation tactics 648 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: would be to withdraw his guilty plea. But when the 649 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 1: judge offered that opportunity, he said no, he's not interested 650 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,320 Speaker 1: in that, and again he reaffirmed his supposed guilt in 651 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: the case, again under pressure. So that's where I think 652 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: things went wrong here, and the judge was in a 653 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: very difficult position. David, can you stick around for Judicu's second. 654 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: We're going to squeeze in a quick break. I got 655 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: a couple of more questions coming up about the conduct 656 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: of the FBI. They had no legal basis to even 657 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: speak with Michael Flynn. Instead, they set him up, they 658 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: trapped him, they ambushed him. We'll get David Shon's comments 659 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: on the other side. I'm Greg Jarrett filling in for 660 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity on the Sean Hannity Show. Welcome back to 661 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett filling in Sean Hannity, 662 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: I want to give you our number because over the 663 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: next half hour I'll take your calls. Want to get 664 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Muller investigation, the sentencene of Michael 665 00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: Flynn and James Coomy. Our number is one eight hundred 666 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,919 Speaker 1: and nine four one sean. That's eight hundred nine four 667 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:47,760 Speaker 1: one seven three two six. Still with us is David Shones, 668 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: civil liberties attorney. David Comey and his FBI never had 669 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: an i legal basis to even interview Michael Flynn. It's 670 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: pretty clear to me they were setting him up to 671 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: damage Trump. They used the Logan Act as a which 672 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: is dead letter law, as a pretext to trap Flynn. 673 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: What do you think, Oh, I think that's a hundred 674 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 1: percent right now. But I'm most worried, I suppose about 675 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: the methodology they used. I thought it was one of 676 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: the biggest and most disgraceful moments when Comy testified before 677 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 1: Congress in essence that he got away with slimely cheating 678 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 1: everybody the American public in tricking General Flynn into an 679 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: interview without counsel President, and during the course of his testimony, 680 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: he said that he believed that mister McCabe had told Flynn. 681 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: General Flynn that he could have White House counsel there 682 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: if he wanted, But the McCabe member says nothing of 683 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: the kind. In fact, it says that something like if 684 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: they if he had counsel president, then they'd have to 685 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: involve the Justice Department. It would get a lot more complicated. 686 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: And so clearly their purpose was encouraging Flynn to meet 687 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 1: with them without lawyer's prep, without a lawyer present for Flynn, 688 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: and to use that setting to ask Flynn questions The 689 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: FBI knew the answers to already and then tried to 690 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: trick him into some variance from what they knew the 691 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: answer the correct answer to be, and then he's charged 692 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,399 Speaker 1: with crimes. It's it's just outrageous. It's not a way 693 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: to treat certainly a war hero and a veteran, but 694 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 1: any any member of the American public. That's not the 695 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 1: way we do things in this country. Here, comey say 696 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: he got away with it. It's disgusting. Oh, it is 697 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: discussing and Commy doesn't care, you know, I mean he 698 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 1: you know, he is so self righteous, and you know 699 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: he views himself as this noble and heroic figure. He 700 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: is filled with self righteousness and a sense of inflated rectitude. 701 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: You know, it really is quite nauseating to listen to him. 702 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: But when you read the court documents, Andrew McCabe, who 703 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 1: is Comy's top deputy, lied to Flynn about the reason 704 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: for the interview. As you say pointed out, he encouraged 705 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: ed Flynn not to have a lawyer. President conspired with 706 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: the Bureau agents to deceive Flynn by not telling him 707 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 1: they actually had a transcript of his perfectly legal conversation 708 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: with Ambassador kiss Leak. And then of course kellmey braggs 709 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: that he broke FBI protocols. It's unconscionable and wrong behavior, 710 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: Absolutely right. And you know, Comey, by the way his 711 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 1: testimony for Congress, with I think many people commented on, 712 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: including you other experts, is the number of times that 713 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: he said, I don't know, I don't recall. The man 714 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: was the director of the FBI, and he doesn't know 715 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 1: some of the most fundamental procedures and substantive information going 716 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,720 Speaker 1: on at the FBI under his watch. And I think 717 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 1: that to cover his bets in a sense on this 718 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 1: recollection issue, I noticed on page seventy six of the transcript. 719 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 1: He said, well, you know, something like he may recollect 720 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: things better in the future. I wouldn't be surprised to 721 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: hear Comy testify before a friendly crowd and remember details 722 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: all remember them, not necessarily the way they actually happened. 723 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,760 Speaker 1: He is the master of deception and evasion and prevarication. 724 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: David Sean, Civil Liberty's Attorney, thank you so much for 725 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: being with us. We'll be right back with more of 726 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett filling in for Sean. 727 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show on Greg Jarrett 728 00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: filling in today for Sean Hannity. You know, only an 729 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: audacious and arrogant man will accuse others of lyne when 730 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: he is guilty of the same. I'm talking, of course, 731 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,800 Speaker 1: about fired FBI director James Komy, who this week stood 732 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: in front of television cameras and accused President Trump of 733 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: ruining the reputation of the FBI. You know, the temerity 734 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: of Comy is really quite breathtaking. This is from the 735 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: man who was fired for abusing his authority, usurping the 736 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,720 Speaker 1: power of the Attorney general in the infamous Hillary Clinton 737 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 1: email scandal, and I wrote about it in great detail 738 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 1: in my book The Russia Hoax, and I'll quote from that. 739 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,920 Speaker 1: Coomy's lack of integrity and defiance of rules and principles 740 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: of law were his downfall. His unchecked ambition and desire 741 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:31,600 Speaker 1: to thrust himself into the public limelight only exacerbated his 742 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: mistakes of judgment and deed. But you know, folks, don't 743 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: take my word for it. Read the five hundred page 744 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: plus report by the Department of Justice Inspector General who 745 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 1: called Komy biased, guilty of insubordination and unprofessionalism. Or in fact, 746 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,319 Speaker 1: read the Department of Justice scathing critique of Komy that 747 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 1: was endorsed by six for attorneys general and Deputies attorney 748 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 1: general from both political parties. It is a damning indictment 749 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: of how Coomey committed multiple acts of misconduct and refused 750 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: to accept the nearly universal judgment that he was wrong, 751 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 1: that he was mistaken, that he engaged in constant acts 752 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: of malfeasance. And you know what, to this very day, 753 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 1: Comey refuses to accept responsibility for his misdeeds. Instead, he 754 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: sort of shifts blame to others, or he just tries 755 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: to cover it up. When confronted with evidence of his 756 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: own wrongdoing, he pretends, as he did on December seventh 757 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:53,520 Speaker 1: before his congressional testimony, I don't know, I don't remember 758 00:50:54,400 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: he said that two hundred and forty five times. I 759 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: don't think I've said that. And you know, in the 760 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: course of ten years, two hundred and forty five times, 761 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:14,319 Speaker 1: Komy's amnesia is quite literally unbelievable. And here he is 762 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: gleefully bragging on television about his misconduct. And you know, 763 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: this is a guy who's out there hawk in his book, 764 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: you know, making millions of dollars off of his own wrongdoing. 765 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,400 Speaker 1: Let's get some of your thoughts about Komey, Flynn, Muller, 766 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: the Russia hoax. Let's turn to Jay now, who joins 767 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: us from Arizona. Hey, j Hey, I appreciate you taking 768 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 1: my call. Sure, it's got a question. You know, I 769 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: play attorney in my mind. Sometimes I maybe wish I was, 770 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: but I'm not as dangerous. Don't do it. Yeah, you know, 771 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 1: I've got to thinking about this whole thing, and this 772 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: whole investigation has been predicated first of all on a 773 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,759 Speaker 1: false dossier lies. Uh. Second of all, the appointment of 774 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,760 Speaker 1: Mueller was was done by an illegal act I guess 775 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 1: by James come leaking classified information. And then you've got 776 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 1: the Justice Department itself not following its own guidelines with 777 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: regards to conflicts of interests and with regards to appointing 778 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: a special counsel without a definite crime. My question is this, 779 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 1: Why doesn't the president's counsel just simply tell the public 780 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: and Muller himself, we will in no way cooperate with you. 781 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 1: You are you are an unethical and an illegal special counsel. Well, 782 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: you know there's a part of me, as a lawyer 783 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,799 Speaker 1: that says, you know, I'd be tempted to do that. 784 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,799 Speaker 1: You know, I think that the President has tried to 785 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,879 Speaker 1: be cooperative, you know, answered written questions that were composed 786 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 1: by Muller and his team of partisans. And now Muller 787 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,120 Speaker 1: apparently is reported wants to question the president personally. He 788 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 1: has no authority to do that. He can go to 789 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: a grand jury and try to force it. But if 790 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,200 Speaker 1: I were the president, and I'd take it to the courts. 791 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: But you're right about I just see him playing along 792 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 1: with the president, playing along, and his council playing along 793 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,720 Speaker 1: with the narrative that the Special Counsel is trying to set, 794 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 1: and that's what bothers me in answering questions and trying 795 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: to cooperate. Right, Well, you're right. One could take the 796 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 1: position if I were defending the president, the appointment of 797 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,920 Speaker 1: the Special Council was illegitimate, and in fact, I devote 798 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: an entire chapter of my book, The Russia Hoax to 799 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: that very premise. That's the title of the chapter. The 800 00:53:54,640 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: appointment of the Special Council was illegitimate because the special 801 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 1: counsel regulations are very specific. You may only appoint a 802 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: special counsel if you have evidence of a crime. But 803 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,319 Speaker 1: they never had that. And how do we know that 804 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 1: because Lisa Paige, the top lawyer on the case for 805 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: the FBI, two months ago, testified in deposition that the 806 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: entire time the FBI had the case, they never found 807 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:28,360 Speaker 1: a scintilla of evidence of a crime called collusion or 808 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: any conspiracy between Trump and Russia. And so you know, 809 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 1: this was always an investigation in search of a crime, 810 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: which is in violation of the regulations. So Mueller should 811 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: never have been appointed, but he was appointed due to 812 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: the theft of government documents by James Comey, which is 813 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:54,960 Speaker 1: a crime for which he should be prosecuted. And interestingly, 814 00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 1: he's really refusing to answer the question as to whether 815 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 1: or not he also leaked classified information. I can tell 816 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,720 Speaker 1: you this much. He gave documents to two, if not three, 817 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: of his friend's slash council, and the FBI had to 818 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 1: raid their offices in what's known as a spillage raid 819 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: to clean up any classified documents that Komy gave them. 820 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 1: And yet Coomy really dodges and weaves when asked the 821 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 1: question did you leak classified information? Chuck Grassley, the outgoing 822 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, believes that four of 823 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: the seven dot well, we know four of the seven 824 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,439 Speaker 1: documents that Komy stole were classified, and at least one 825 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: of them was leaked by Komy. And so I hope 826 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: that the new Judiciary Chairman, Lindsey Graham, we'll get to 827 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: the bottom of this, because it seems to me that 828 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: if that's true, Comey should be the subject of a 829 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:12,359 Speaker 1: grand jury investigation, and if it's true, it would seem 830 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 1: inevitable that he would be indicted for leaking classified information. 831 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 1: Let's go to our next caller, Don Joins, us. Don, 832 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: you're in Texas. I love Texas. My wife's from Texas. 833 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: What do you think about all of this? Well, I'd 834 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,399 Speaker 1: like to say that Sean really Sean handed to get 835 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,560 Speaker 1: some fantastic guests. So so you've been one of my 836 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: favorites for years. James Comley has already admitted that he leaked, 837 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 1: and what you're saying is perfectly spot on. When are 838 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,399 Speaker 1: they going to start investigating him? He's already with this amnesia. 839 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 1: He wrote a book about it. I mean, he's I 840 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,439 Speaker 1: just don't understand why he's not been indicted yet. This 841 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,879 Speaker 1: is m Yeah. I mean I'm not an attorney. You are, 842 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: and you give great insight. I'm going to hang up 843 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,959 Speaker 1: and listen to your response, all right, thank you, Don. Yeah. 844 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Comey's amnesia is either a clever faint ie 845 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: a lie, or he is the most clueless and incompetent 846 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 1: director in the history of the FBI. Or he's corrupt. 847 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: You know, I'm betting that he's he's lying and corrupt. 848 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: Comy has become the master of deception and prevarication. I mean, 849 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: who can actually forget his admission of lying while he 850 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 1: was hawking his book on the television show The View. 851 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: He said, quote good people lie, I lay out I 852 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: think I'm a good person where I have lied. So 853 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: here he is admitting that he's a liar, and in truth, 854 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 1: his book only scratches the surface of the many lies 855 00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,880 Speaker 1: that he's been peddling. Assuming you can, you know, wade 856 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: through the self adoration the vainglorious book, as I've called it, 857 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 1: where Comy loves to sermonize about lies and lying people, 858 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: he should be looking in the mirror. It's perversely ironic 859 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 1: coming from a man who, more than anybody else, is 860 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:18,360 Speaker 1: responsible for the most notorious hoax in modern American history. 861 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 1: There was there was no credible evidence and no legal 862 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 1: basis to justify the Trump Russia investigation, but Comy opened 863 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,960 Speaker 1: it anyway in July of twenty sixteen. And you know, 864 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,240 Speaker 1: he didn't have evidence of a crime, but that didn't 865 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: stop him from stealing presidential memos and delivering them to 866 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: a friend who leaked them to the media for the 867 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: sole purpose of triggering the appointment of a special counsel 868 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: who just happened to be ladies and gentlemen. His longtime friend, 869 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 1: partner and ally, Robert Muller, and then Comy had the 870 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: audacity to say in an interview with Bret baron Fox News, Oh, 871 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: that isn't a leak. Seriously, he said that quote not 872 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: a leak, really, James, and what the hell was it? 873 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 1: And in the same interview he insisted he never told 874 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 1: Congress that the FBI agents who interviewed former National Security 875 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: Advisor Michael Flynn determined that Flynn was not lying. Well, 876 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 1: guess what documents show that Comy did tell lawmakers that 877 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: agents concluded Flynn was telling the truth and did not lie. 878 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: So Comy's all over the place. And this is the 879 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,400 Speaker 1: problem with liars. They can't get their stories straight. They 880 00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 1: tell so many different lies and stories that you know, 881 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: it's really hard for them to keep track of it. 882 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,880 Speaker 1: And you know that's James Comy. And to be sure, 883 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,360 Speaker 1: Congress has been investigating the numerous statements made by Komy 884 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: that are beyond credulity. He was asked under oath, for example, 885 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: by the House Judiciary Committee, if he decided to clear 886 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton before or after she was interviewed by the FBI, 887 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: and he testified after Well, documents uncovered by the Senate 888 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee utterly belie that testimony a full two months 889 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,919 Speaker 1: before the FBI ever interviewed Clinton, Comey began drafting her 890 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: exoneration statement. And you know, as I recount in the book, 891 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,240 Speaker 1: I have yet to run across a former top official 892 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 1: at the FBI or a prosecutor who has ever penned 893 01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: an exoneration statement of a potential defendant before that defendant 894 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 1: has been interviewed, much less sixteen other key witnesses to 895 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 1: the case. But that's what Comey did. And what's interesting 896 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 1: in the Inspector General report is the IG confronts Comey 897 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: with that exoneration statement because in it, Comy originally found 898 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: that Clinton committed crimes. He wrote down not once but 899 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 1: twice that she was grossly negligent, but then he had 900 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: struck sanitized that language. So the IG says, well, what 901 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: about this language? And Comey said, oh, yeah, I wrote 902 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: this statement, but I don't remember using the words gross negligent. Right, 903 01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 1: So we're supposed to believe that the director of the FBI, 904 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: and one of the most important decisions of his life, 905 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 1: determines that the leading candidate to be the next president 906 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: of the United States is a criminal. But she, you know, 907 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't really recall that unbelievable. But that is the 908 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: corrupt James Comy. We're gonna pause, take a quick break. 909 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Jared filling in for Sean Hannity. More calls 910 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: on the other side. Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. 911 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,040 Speaker 1: On Greg jar we're talking about the Russia Hoax, which 912 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 1: just happens to be the title of my book. Let's 913 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 1: get right to the next caller. Bob joins us from 914 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: North Carolina. Hi Bob, Hi Greg. It's a pleasure and 915 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 1: taught to you. Really enjoyed the Russia Hoax. I must 916 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 1: read for anybody one's chapter and verse on the legal 917 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: issues that happened in the attacks against Donald Trump. Here's 918 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 1: my point. You go over in great detail the specifics 919 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 1: what was done to Donald Trump. I think there's a 920 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: general purpose to these attacks as well. It's not just 921 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: to take down Trump, and everybody who supports them is 922 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 1: to discourage the next Donald Trump and anybody wants to 923 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 1: support him. The sports dress policy is all you can 924 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 1: expect if you come here and you're not a swamp dweller. 925 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 1: I'll take your answer over the air. Thanks Greg, and 926 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: it's a real pleasure. Well talk to you. Thank you, Bob, 927 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. I mean, even before the president was 928 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 1: sworn into office, the James Comey and his confederates at 929 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: the FBI, together with James Clapper, the director of National 930 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 1: Intelligence under Obama, John Brennan, the CIA director, these were 931 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: the instigators than the propagators of the Russia hoax, and 932 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: they were going to buy hell or high water, depose 933 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 1: President Trump, and undo the election results. There's no question 934 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 1: about it. And Robert Muller and his team of partisans 935 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 1: have taken up the baton and they're running with it. 936 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for the phone calls. On the other side, 937 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking with John Solomon of The Hill 938 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: and his latest article about the most recent developments and 939 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 1: former FBI director James Comey in just a moment, and 940 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 1: welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. I'm Greg Jarrett 941 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: filling in for Sean Hannity. My Twitter handle is at 942 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett. That's gr Egg. J A. R. R. Ett. 943 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 1: I wrote a book called The Russia Hoax, The Illicit 944 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,280 Speaker 1: Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. I 945 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: hope you'll get it, and more importantly, even if you 946 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 1: don't get it, or you borrow somebody's copy. I hope 947 01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: you read it, because it is soup to nuts, the 948 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:23,200 Speaker 1: story of how the FBI corrupt as it was under 949 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: the leadership of James Comey, cleared Hillary Clinton of crime 950 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 1: she obviously committed, and then launched an investigation of Donald 951 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,720 Speaker 1: Trump to frame him for things he didn't do. And 952 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 1: I lay it all out beginning to end. And one 953 01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: of the principal players, of course, in all of this 954 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 1: was James Comey, who testified this week for the second time. 955 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 1: He did it first on December seventh, and then Monday 956 01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:01,160 Speaker 1: of this week. And I've read the transcript of Monday's 957 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:10,320 Speaker 1: Comy deposition, and he is snarky and sarcastic, or as 958 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 1: my grandmother used to say, a smart alec so when 959 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: he isn't giving those kinds of responses in a holier 960 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: than now tone, he is evasive. I don't recall, I 961 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 1: don't remember, I don't know. I can't answer that, I 962 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:36,360 Speaker 1: won't answer that. It is classic evasion and prevarication, or 963 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: if you will, line by James Coomey, who's an admitted liar, 964 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: as I mentioned in the last hour, So John Solomon 965 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: of the Hill, who has broken a lot of stories 966 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:53,959 Speaker 1: on the Russia hoax and is in the book. Has 967 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:58,480 Speaker 1: come out with another column talking about James Comey's testimony 968 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:04,960 Speaker 1: of this week. It's entitled Komi's who Cares reply recalls 969 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: what difference retort? What difference of course is? You know? Classically? 970 01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, when she was questioned by Congress about the 971 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:20,439 Speaker 1: Benghazi attack, said what difference at this point does it make? 972 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: She was being asked whether you know it was a 973 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:29,400 Speaker 1: spontaneous protest over an anti Muslim video? Respect the fact 974 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of 975 01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,200 Speaker 1: a protest or was it because of guys out for 976 01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 1: a walk when nither decided they go kill some Americans? 977 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 1: What difference at this point does it make? It is 978 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 1: our job to figure out what happened and do everything 979 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,600 Speaker 1: we can to prevent it from ever happening again. Senator, 980 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 1: it made a difference, Hillary, because you were lying about it, 981 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,720 Speaker 1: and you were incompetent as Secretary of State. You had 982 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,440 Speaker 1: been warned that there might be a terrorist attack on 983 01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 1: the Benghazi compound, and you took nothing, no steps whatsoever, 984 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 1: You did nothing to prevent it, and Americans lost their lives. 985 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 1: And then you tried to pretend, oh, it was just 986 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 1: a spontaneous demonstration over an anti Muslim video, when in 987 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,440 Speaker 1: fact you knew that it was a planned terrorist attack. 988 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:23,800 Speaker 1: And so let's turn out to John Solomon of The Hill. 989 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:29,439 Speaker 1: John another great column, and it is reminiscent, isn't it 990 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: of James Comi's statement this week. Yeah, there's no doubt 991 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: I talked to Republicans and Democrats alike who had the 992 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:40,560 Speaker 1: same impression, which is Comy misstapped or certainly said something 993 01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:43,439 Speaker 1: that didn't that no lawmaker really appreciate it, and sort 994 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 1: of showed a larger disdain for congressional oversight. But it's 995 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,560 Speaker 1: because of that congressional oversight that we now know that 996 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: the Steel dossier was used, unverified, as Comy himself testified 997 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:59,320 Speaker 1: ten days ago, to support an extraordinary face of warrant 998 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,280 Speaker 1: to spy on the campaign in the final weeks of 999 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen election. It's because of that oversight we 1000 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 1: know that the FBI deputy director lied about leaking to 1001 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,880 Speaker 1: the media. It's because of that oversight we know that 1002 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,000 Speaker 1: Pete Stroke and Lisa Page are having an affair and 1003 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,240 Speaker 1: we're expressing bias in their investigation of Donald Trump and 1004 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 1: even contemplated using their official powers to quote unquote stop 1005 01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,559 Speaker 1: Donald Trump from being president. I think the thing that 1006 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 1: most lawmakers walked away from that session was James Coomey 1007 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to take any responsibility for the failures on 1008 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 1: his watch at the FBI. And these failures are no 1009 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,400 Speaker 1: longer in dispute, their irrefutable failures. The IG has found them, 1010 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,400 Speaker 1: Congress has found them. And I think his who cares 1011 01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: comment came off as rather flipped to lawmakers. Yeah, I 1012 01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:49,160 Speaker 1: mean flips an understatement. And you know, I think it 1013 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 1: was Mark Meadows who tried to explain to him how 1014 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,360 Speaker 1: it matters, didn't he Yeah, he did. No. Mark Meadows 1015 01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 1: was the one that asked the question that elicited, and 1016 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,840 Speaker 1: he challenged Comey coming out out of that, and you know, 1017 01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,360 Speaker 1: let's think about something that's amazing. He says, who kers? Right, 1018 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 1: But then a few minutes later he immediately acknowledges in 1019 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 1: the cross examination from Mark Meadows that there was potential 1020 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,400 Speaker 1: bias in using the Steele dossier. So I don't care 1021 01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 1: about the Steel DOSSI but I knew it was biased 1022 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,559 Speaker 1: and I used it even though it was unverified. And 1023 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 1: the rules say you shouldn't use unverified evidence for a 1024 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 1: FISA warrant. I mean, it's an extraordinary two or three 1025 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: minute exchange that I think really highlights what was wrong 1026 01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 1: with the James Comey era at the FBI. People who 1027 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,719 Speaker 1: talked there are senior officials who worked for him, senior 1028 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,320 Speaker 1: officials that left during his tenure, senior officials who stayed 1029 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 1: there after his tenier have all said this to me. 1030 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,839 Speaker 1: He was so haughty, so in love with his own 1031 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,960 Speaker 1: opinion of himself, that he was oblivious to some of 1032 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,720 Speaker 1: the bad things that were going on, some of the 1033 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 1: preventible self inflicted errors that were going on in the FBI. 1034 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good people in the FBI. There 1035 01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,479 Speaker 1: was a lot about the Russia case that is important, right. 1036 01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,479 Speaker 1: The Russians hacked into accounts they did so, and things 1037 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,320 Speaker 1: that didn't do it in collusion with Trump. They did 1038 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 1: it on their own as part of a foreign policy 1039 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 1: objective for their country. Those are the things we should 1040 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,640 Speaker 1: have focused on, and instead James Comby allowed us to 1041 01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 1: be focusing on an investigation that's gone two years and 1042 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: gone nowhere except where we started, which was there was 1043 01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 1: no collusion. I think the FBI is better off without 1044 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: him today. There's a lot about it. I mean, he 1045 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:25,559 Speaker 1: has done more damage to the FBI than anyone since 1046 01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,160 Speaker 1: Jed gre Hoover. And that's just not my opinion. That 1047 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 1: is the opinion of top former FBI officials that I 1048 01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,000 Speaker 1: interviewed for my book. Yeah, and they all persons. I mean, 1049 01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:41,600 Speaker 1: they said it will take decades to restore the credibility 1050 01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,439 Speaker 1: and integrity to the FBI. That's how much damage James 1051 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,320 Speaker 1: come he did. Yeah. And I think another thing is 1052 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,840 Speaker 1: how partisan he's become since he left the office. And 1053 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, I've always I interviewed many former FBI directors, 1054 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,479 Speaker 1: Louis Free, William Webster, I interviewed Bob Muller when he 1055 01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 1: was FBI director. I never have heard a current or 1056 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,240 Speaker 1: former FBI director talk the way that James Comby has 1057 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 1: has talked, particularly since he left. The overt politicalization, the 1058 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:15,120 Speaker 1: almost disdain for oversight, the sort of nonsensical excuses for 1059 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 1: what went on on his watch. It's very unusual. And 1060 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,200 Speaker 1: I think that people who work in the bureau and 1061 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,360 Speaker 1: are proud of it and all the good work it 1062 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,840 Speaker 1: does do every day, they're a little bit of shade 1063 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,120 Speaker 1: by his performance, not only when he was in leadership, 1064 01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 1: but since he left, I think he many people feel 1065 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 1: he's dishonored the reputation of the FBI by his overt 1066 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,760 Speaker 1: politicalization since he left the office. And another aspect of 1067 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 1: your colum and again people should read it. It's on 1068 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 1: the Hill, John Solomon. It's a great, great column. But 1069 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, after he finishes testifying, he stands in front 1070 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,920 Speaker 1: of television cameras and he's asked if he shares some 1071 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: responsibility yeah, for the FBI's diminished, and he says no, 1072 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:59,200 Speaker 1: and he blames the president and his acolytes for the 1073 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:03,880 Speaker 1: bad petal the FI. I mean, Daddy's astonishing. You know, 1074 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,280 Speaker 1: there used to be a time in Washington where people 1075 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 1: took ownership and the buck stopped at the top of 1076 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,720 Speaker 1: a hill. But it appears today that we don't have 1077 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,840 Speaker 1: that culture in our government anymore. The IG, the Inspector General, 1078 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 1: doesn't have a political bone in their body. A nonpartisan 1079 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:23,560 Speaker 1: watchdog interview has concluded the following The dossier was politically motivated. 1080 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 1: It was funded by the Clinton campaign and the DNC, 1081 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,280 Speaker 1: and the judges were kept in the dark about it. 1082 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 1: It was not verified before it was submitted to the 1083 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: FISU court. That's Komy's own testimony. In addition, we know 1084 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,040 Speaker 1: that there was leaking going on, We knew there was 1085 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 1: politicalization going on. All of these things are corroborated. Now, 1086 01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 1: there are facts that sit in an IG report, in 1087 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 1: a House intelligence report, and he doesn't seem to take 1088 01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 1: ownership of any of him. It's almost like he wasn't 1089 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 1: in charge when all this happened. And I think that 1090 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 1: really frustrates people because the first road to recovery for 1091 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: an agency like the FBI is acknowledging what's what's wrong, 1092 01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,639 Speaker 1: and then you fix it. We did it after nine 1093 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 1: to eleven, right, they failed to connect the dots even 1094 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 1: though they knew so much, the Phoenix Memo, all those things, 1095 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 1: And the way the FBI fixed itself and became a 1096 01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,519 Speaker 1: great counter terrorism organization is by acknowledging what went wrong 1097 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 1: and then fixing it. But we have a current informer, 1098 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 1: or at least he certainly a former leader who doesn't 1099 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 1: want to acknowledge what was wrong there, and I think 1100 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,000 Speaker 1: that hurts the bureau's ability to recover from the mistakes 1101 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,719 Speaker 1: it made. You know, for a while, Comy was trying 1102 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 1: to pretend that that he thought, well, first of all, 1103 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,599 Speaker 1: on December seven, he you know, sort of said, oh, 1104 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know much about who had 1105 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 1: paid for the dossier, and right, you know, I don't. 1106 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 1: And then he at one point in time he was saying, well, 1107 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,680 Speaker 1: I think Republicans paid for it. Yes, that's that's not 1108 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,720 Speaker 1: quite accurate. No, I mean it's completely ridiculous. Yeah, they 1109 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 1: hired the firm that did the work, but it wasn't 1110 01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,640 Speaker 1: Russian dossier work. It was other political opposition research. The 1111 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 1: Russian dossier was a clear and compelling product of the 1112 01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,560 Speaker 1: Clinton campaign. And then see, even though it was disguised 1113 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,519 Speaker 1: on campaign finance reports as legal bills, it was a 1114 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:09,320 Speaker 1: political opposition research report done and then turned into the FBI. 1115 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I don't know if I 1116 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 1: talked about this on air much, but Greg one time, 1117 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,960 Speaker 1: shortly after I started working on these stories with Sarah, 1118 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: a couple of people showed up in my house about 1119 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:19,760 Speaker 1: eleven o'clock and night. They had just got an off 1120 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,679 Speaker 1: Hannity's TV show, and they showed up. They were sitting 1121 01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,800 Speaker 1: at my mailbox when they pulled into my driveway, they 1122 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 1: came out. They've never identified themselves to this day, I 1123 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,080 Speaker 1: don't know who they are, but this is what they 1124 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,640 Speaker 1: told me. We've watched some of your early reporting on 1125 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,799 Speaker 1: FAISO abuses and unmasking. We want to tell you something. 1126 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 1: And this is way before we knew anything. This is 1127 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,479 Speaker 1: long before we even heard Christopher Steele's name. The US 1128 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:44,040 Speaker 1: intelligence community was used for political opposition research. And you 1129 01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,680 Speaker 1: need to get to the bottom of it. That's all 1130 01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,720 Speaker 1: they told me. And just keep digging and you'll find out. 1131 01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,800 Speaker 1: And I look back at that moment now and how 1132 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,760 Speaker 1: much we've learned because of people like Devin Junias and 1133 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,640 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows and Chuck Grassley and Jim Jordan. There was 1134 01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 1: a major corruption of our career intelligence apparatus for political purposes, 1135 01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 1: and it's only because of oversight, the same oversight that 1136 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:10,599 Speaker 1: Komyn Wrinkles has knows that now that we learn at 1137 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 1: least some of the truth, I feel like there's a 1138 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 1: lot more truth that we don't know yet. And I 1139 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,920 Speaker 1: think your book has laid out the best roadmap of 1140 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,280 Speaker 1: anyone to looking at what else we might learn in 1141 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 1: the future about what went wrong in this investigation. Thank you, 1142 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,880 Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate it. Well. You're quoted quite often 1143 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:29,000 Speaker 1: in the book because you uncovered a lot of it. 1144 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 1: Sarah Carter did as well. And actually Kimberly Strassel of 1145 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal is a great, great reporter, is 1146 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 1: quoted at the other times in the book. She's unremarkable worker. 1147 01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:45,639 Speaker 1: Oh she has a column out that's entitled What's next 1148 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,599 Speaker 1: in FBI Oversight. Let me just read one line because 1149 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,160 Speaker 1: it dovetails with something that you just said about the 1150 01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:56,600 Speaker 1: House and Senate investigators. She says, House and Senate investigators 1151 01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 1: get pride of place for unraveling one of the greatest 1152 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,600 Speaker 1: dirty tricks of our political times, in which a Democratic administration, 1153 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 1: party and presidential campaign either co opted or fool the 1154 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: FBI into investigating the Republican campaign. You know, in one 1155 01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,200 Speaker 1: sentence she has put it quite nice now that yeah, no, 1156 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,479 Speaker 1: she did. She's obviously a great writer and a great reporter, 1157 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,200 Speaker 1: and she's right. This was a dirty trick, and it 1158 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,599 Speaker 1: was and unlike past dirty tricks were outsiders and third 1159 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,200 Speaker 1: parties were used, the FBI and the intelligence community was 1160 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,800 Speaker 1: used to carry it out. And I feel like that's 1161 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 1: the part that most Americans are still learning about. And 1162 01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,200 Speaker 1: I think if the president gets to that point and 1163 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,240 Speaker 1: I think he will, because he said so in my 1164 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,000 Speaker 1: interview with him, where he declassifies the Gang of Eight 1165 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,040 Speaker 1: documents to classify the rest of the FISA warrant to 1166 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,800 Speaker 1: classify some stuff about Mike Flynn that I've talked about 1167 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,639 Speaker 1: a little bit. We're going to see that the dirty 1168 01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,439 Speaker 1: trick might have even been more extensive and even uglier 1169 01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: than we know today. And I think that's a moment 1170 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 1: of transparency that we need in our country. Absolutely, And 1171 01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,640 Speaker 1: in fact, you know, Kimberly Strassell also talks about the 1172 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:13,719 Speaker 1: importance of declassifying these if you were just sitting around 1173 01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:18,479 Speaker 1: shooting the bull. What do you think we will find 1174 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,639 Speaker 1: out from these documents if and when they're declassified? Yeah, 1175 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of things. One thing that 1176 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,240 Speaker 1: I've been working on the last few weeks and I 1177 01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 1: think is becoming more and more clear when General Flynn, 1178 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 1: Mike Flynn went to Russia for the r Team meeting 1179 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:35,400 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. Remember that's an event that people have 1180 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 1: called treason us right on the democratic sided in journalism. 1181 01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:41,360 Speaker 1: He most likely was doing so in concert with the 1182 01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,880 Speaker 1: DIA as part of a Clantistine program. And I think 1183 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,960 Speaker 1: that there are documents that show he briefed Thedia when 1184 01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,280 Speaker 1: he came back. Think about how much that changes the 1185 01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 1: whole narrative about Mike Flynn and Russia. If you find 1186 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,280 Speaker 1: out that the first interaction with the Russians was actually 1187 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,680 Speaker 1: to help our country, not to harm our country. I 1188 01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,360 Speaker 1: think that's one of the things we're definitely going to 1189 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,760 Speaker 1: find out. Yeah, I wrote all him more than a 1190 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,240 Speaker 1: year ago that said that's what he did. He came 1191 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 1: home and he briefed the DA and I think he 1192 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,240 Speaker 1: went there with tasking orders. I think it's highly pop 1193 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,920 Speaker 1: probably given what I've learned that before and after there 1194 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,800 Speaker 1: was coordination. I want what was going on, I think, 1195 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 1: and as your book has pointed out so well, and 1196 01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,839 Speaker 1: I think also the things you've done on television really 1197 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:24,679 Speaker 1: laid the roadmap out. There's going to be exculpatory evidence 1198 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:28,599 Speaker 1: that we still don't know about transcripts of conversations that 1199 01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,879 Speaker 1: show very early on the FBI and the intelligence community 1200 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:35,720 Speaker 1: had every reason to doubt collusion. You know, we've heard 1201 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 1: a couple of lawmakers, Mark Meadows among them, occasionally referring 1202 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 1: to transcripts. I want to know what's in those transcripts. 1203 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: One of the great mysteries is we started the investigation 1204 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,479 Speaker 1: on Papadopolis and then a few weeks later we immediately 1205 01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:50,200 Speaker 1: flipped to the dossier, right, like the papadopplus didn't exist. 1206 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,800 Speaker 1: The more there has to be a reason. I bet 1207 01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 1: you the original evidence that came in on Papadopolis was 1208 01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 1: contradicted by intercepts or other things that came on afterwards, 1209 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,040 Speaker 1: and rather than shut down the investigation call it a 1210 01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 1: false start, we just pivoted to the next best thing 1211 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,200 Speaker 1: the FBI had, which was a dirty tricks document produced 1212 01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 1: and paid for by the DNC in the Hillary Clinton campaign. 1213 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be other errors and omissions 1214 01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:18,240 Speaker 1: that the FISA Court had no idea, and had they 1215 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 1: known about it, they might have ruled differently in renewing 1216 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:24,519 Speaker 1: the third or fourth ward. Yeah, all right, just the 1217 01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,320 Speaker 1: other day saying that that's going to be a big issue. Okay, 1218 01:19:27,439 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 1: John the Great John Solomon, terrific reporter. Thank you very 1219 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,280 Speaker 1: much for being with us. Quick break, we'll be right back. 1220 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,679 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Show. On Greg Jarrett 1221 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:41,480 Speaker 1: filling in for Sean Hannity. We've been talking about James 1222 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 1: COMI because he was front and center this week when 1223 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,519 Speaker 1: he testified yet again before Congress behind closed doors. But 1224 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 1: a transcript was released the next day, and I guarantee 1225 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:59,000 Speaker 1: you it is worth reading because it speaks volumes about 1226 01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:05,880 Speaker 1: the lack of integrity and credibility of Comy. James Comey 1227 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:10,560 Speaker 1: is not the heroic and noble figure that he imagines. 1228 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,759 Speaker 1: He twisted the facts and contorted the law to clear 1229 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:19,439 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. He launched an investigation of Donald Trump without 1230 01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:25,280 Speaker 1: legally sufficient evidence. He deceived the face accord by withholding 1231 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,760 Speaker 1: evidence in order to wire tap a Trump campaign associate 1232 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 1: whose life he ruined. He then misappropriated government documents. In 1233 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:38,080 Speaker 1: other words, he stole them and leaked them to the 1234 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:44,280 Speaker 1: media to precipitate an illegitimate special counsel investigation. And he 1235 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: has repeatedly given false, misleading statements to both Congress and 1236 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:56,200 Speaker 1: the media. James Comey, as FBI director betrayed the public's trust. 1237 01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:01,000 Speaker 1: And I'm reminded of what Thomas Jefferson once wrote, He 1238 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,920 Speaker 1: who permits himself to tell a lie once finds it 1239 01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,840 Speaker 1: much easier to do it a second and a third time, 1240 01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:14,360 Speaker 1: until at length it becomes habitual. Jefferson had a guy 1241 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,920 Speaker 1: like Comy in mind and James Coomy still out there 1242 01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,920 Speaker 1: peddling his book, and you would walk a mile for 1243 01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,879 Speaker 1: a camera, maybe the only one in America who truly 1244 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:33,040 Speaker 1: believes the stories that he is selling. I write about 1245 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 1: Comy in my book The Russia Hoax because he is 1246 01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:40,679 Speaker 1: the central figure in it all. He, more than anyone else, 1247 01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:47,759 Speaker 1: engineered the greatest hoax in modern American history, the Russia Hoax. 1248 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,720 Speaker 1: Let's turn out to some of our listeners who've been 1249 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:54,680 Speaker 1: calling in. Let's go to Jim in Jacksonville. Jim, how 1250 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,160 Speaker 1: are you doing well? To think? Greg? Hey? Love the book. 1251 01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,280 Speaker 1: I've read it twice already him. It really irritates me 1252 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 1: about Coomy is that he's currently teaching of the College 1253 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 1: William and Mary, among other things, as an ethical leadership professor. 1254 01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm also a grad from there, and I've been emailing 1255 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:18,519 Speaker 1: with the current president about what he's still doing there, 1256 01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:23,760 Speaker 1: and I'm withholding my contributions from the school. Well, you know, 1257 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:29,759 Speaker 1: you can't make this up. James Coomey, who has shot 1258 01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 1: holes through the word ethics, is teaching a class on ethics. 1259 01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,519 Speaker 1: And we double checked a few moments ago. He taught 1260 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 1: a class this year on ethics at William and Mary. 1261 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,839 Speaker 1: He scheduled to teach another class on ethics at William 1262 01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,560 Speaker 1: and Mary this next year. I mean, that's like O. J. 1263 01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:54,000 Speaker 1: Simpson teaching a class on cutlery, right, I mean, it's 1264 01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:59,600 Speaker 1: just it's absurd, unless, of course Coomy confesses to his 1265 01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:05,800 Speaker 1: students here's how I was unethical, and here is how 1266 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,400 Speaker 1: you should not be like me. I mean, that would 1267 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 1: be the only value if James Comey is your professor 1268 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,680 Speaker 1: teaching ethics. Jim, thanks for the comment. It's a great one. 1269 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:24,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for pointing it out. Dennis joins this from Orlando, Florida. Hey, Dennis, 1270 01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 1: great Guy's an office of the court which holds information 1271 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:33,360 Speaker 1: as they done with the Steel dossier. Isn't that considered 1272 01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,639 Speaker 1: fraud on the court? And if they fraud on the court, 1273 01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,240 Speaker 1: then why hasn't the judge or any of the defendant's 1274 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:45,200 Speaker 1: lawyers brought those charges? Well, you're absolutely right, it's a 1275 01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 1: fraud on the court. And in fact, the federal regulations 1276 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,680 Speaker 1: that govern what you can and cannot submit to a 1277 01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 1: five support specifically state that you may never submit anything 1278 01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:59,639 Speaker 1: that has not first been verified. And Coomey admitted again 1279 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:04,200 Speaker 1: this week that the dossier, which was used exclusively to 1280 01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,960 Speaker 1: spy on the Trump campaign, was unverified. And so it's 1281 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,519 Speaker 1: not just it's not just a fraud on the court. 1282 01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:16,200 Speaker 1: That is a fault to misleading statement by coming because 1283 01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,360 Speaker 1: he affixed his signature to it. But he did so 1284 01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:22,640 Speaker 1: under penalty of perjury. So it's perjury, it's obstruction of justice. 1285 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,120 Speaker 1: And it's also a statute that's known as abuse of 1286 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,720 Speaker 1: power deprivation of rights under color of law. He was 1287 01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,439 Speaker 1: interfering in the constitutional rights not only of Carter Page, 1288 01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:37,800 Speaker 1: but of Donald Trump. So the problem is that the 1289 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:41,040 Speaker 1: fi SI Coort is a secret star chamber, which I 1290 01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:45,320 Speaker 1: am vigorously opposed to. I mean, this was you know, 1291 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:51,000 Speaker 1: the old English star chambers in which judges could do 1292 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,960 Speaker 1: anything to you and understand because it was secret. And 1293 01:24:55,080 --> 01:25:00,599 Speaker 1: that's what we've got with the Fisichord. It's secret. One 1294 01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:05,400 Speaker 1: last question, if a if a judge, knowing that he 1295 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:11,280 Speaker 1: has been presented false information, does not respond to that, 1296 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:17,680 Speaker 1: doesn't that basically negate the due process clause of the Constitution. 1297 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:21,360 Speaker 1: Oh it totally don't. They violated the due process rights 1298 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 1: with Carter Page. There's no question about it. And Carter 1299 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:26,920 Speaker 1: Page should sue the government and the FBI and James 1300 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:30,479 Speaker 1: Comey and saliates An, Andrew McCabe and Rod Rosenstein who 1301 01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:36,920 Speaker 1: all signed off on this unverified documentum for all their worth, 1302 01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, and uh, and the government should pay Carter Page. 1303 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Carter Page can't really make a living anymore. 1304 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,920 Speaker 1: His life has been ruined, his reputation destroyed. H And 1305 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a tragedy. And James Comey and all of 1306 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:55,799 Speaker 1: the others that I just mentioned don't have an ounce 1307 01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:01,280 Speaker 1: of remorse about it. They don't care because they're the 1308 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:06,000 Speaker 1: all powerful law enforcement arm of the US government and 1309 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,400 Speaker 1: they can do anything they want to do because they can. 1310 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:16,720 Speaker 1: And Americans should be frightened of our government, the FBI 1311 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,800 Speaker 1: and people like Robert Muller and his team of partisans. 1312 01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,120 Speaker 1: Want to thank you for your call, Dennis. Let's go 1313 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:26,720 Speaker 1: to our next caller, Denise in Chicago. Hi Denise, Yes, 1314 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,479 Speaker 1: Hi Greg, thanks for taking my call. Sure, I often 1315 01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:35,360 Speaker 1: wondered why James Comey reopened the investigation Hillary Clinton right 1316 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,639 Speaker 1: before the election, and I guess I got my answer 1317 01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,639 Speaker 1: this week with his interview on MSNBC when he was 1318 01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,720 Speaker 1: touting how you know if it was more of an 1319 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:48,280 Speaker 1: organized administration, he probably wouldn't have been able to get 1320 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:51,240 Speaker 1: away with it. And there's our answer right there, is 1321 01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,479 Speaker 1: that I think he got wind of the fact that 1322 01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:57,519 Speaker 1: Donald Trump might win and he was so methodical he 1323 01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,920 Speaker 1: went in and open reopened that because he wanted to 1324 01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,280 Speaker 1: make it look like he was on Donald Trump's side 1325 01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:08,880 Speaker 1: and he wanted to and he wanted to be able 1326 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,160 Speaker 1: to stay there because he wanted to be able to 1327 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:16,400 Speaker 1: do what he did, which his first casualty was Michael Flynn, 1328 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: and that is how he started picking the people off. 1329 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:24,080 Speaker 1: And you know, because it wasn't he wasn't going to 1330 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:27,479 Speaker 1: he wasn't there to open up the investigation again to 1331 01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 1: maintain the integrity of his investigation. I actually think it 1332 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:34,680 Speaker 1: probably hurt her a little with early voters, But I 1333 01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:38,160 Speaker 1: really think that he did that to stay in the 1334 01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:43,000 Speaker 1: administration so he was able to infiltrate his well plan. 1335 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:48,400 Speaker 1: That that's one possibility. I think the more likely scenario 1336 01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,479 Speaker 1: is what is laid out by the Inspector General Michael 1337 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:56,599 Speaker 1: Horowitz's report, And to put it in a nutshell, it's 1338 01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,160 Speaker 1: like this comy McCabe and Struck did not want to 1339 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,719 Speaker 1: reopen the Hillary Clinton case on the eve of the election. 1340 01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,040 Speaker 1: But they were forced to do it because prosecutors in 1341 01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,639 Speaker 1: New York, we're going to wrap them out. So they 1342 01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,559 Speaker 1: were forced to do it. Prosecutors in New York who 1343 01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:20,200 Speaker 1: were handling the Anthony Weiner laptop fiasco discovered all of 1344 01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:24,799 Speaker 1: these classified documents on Iluma Abboton and Anthony Winner's laptop 1345 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:33,639 Speaker 1: involving Hillary Clinton. They notify headquarters in Washington and James 1346 01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:37,679 Speaker 1: Comey and Andrew mcaban Peter Struck and say, you got 1347 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 1: to look at this. So they so the Washington Office 1348 01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,680 Speaker 1: headquarters says, oh yeah, okay, we'll take a look at this. 1349 01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 1: And a week goes by. Nothing happens. Two weeks ago, 1350 01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 1: buy nothing happens. New York calls up Washington, so what 1351 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:52,880 Speaker 1: are you doing it? Oh yeah, we're all over it, 1352 01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,720 Speaker 1: and they say, no, you're not. You haven't even received 1353 01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,240 Speaker 1: the documents. We keep waiting for you to ask for 1354 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,120 Speaker 1: their delivery. Oh yeah, deliver them to us. Another week 1355 01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 1: goes by, what are you doing about it? Nothing? And 1356 01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:10,000 Speaker 1: finally in the fourth week, you know, there must have 1357 01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,840 Speaker 1: been a meeting with Comy mccabin struck in which they say, 1358 01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,200 Speaker 1: these guys in New York are going to write us 1359 01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,840 Speaker 1: out for doing nothing and sitting on this, and so 1360 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:19,840 Speaker 1: they had to reopen the case. But when they did 1361 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:25,240 Speaker 1: reopen the case, under pressure, they immediately closed it, claiming 1362 01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,120 Speaker 1: that they had reviewed all of the emails that was 1363 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,840 Speaker 1: Commy's testimony, when in fact they reviewed just a fraction 1364 01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,439 Speaker 1: of them, so it was nothing more than window dressing, 1365 01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,000 Speaker 1: and they shut down the case. So let's go to 1366 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 1: our next caller. Jim joins us in New York. Hey, Jim, Hey, 1367 01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,800 Speaker 1: how's it going. Yeah. I think everything you're saying about 1368 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,360 Speaker 1: Comy is correct. But the thing we have to remember 1369 01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,840 Speaker 1: is the dirtiest cop in America is Robert Mueller. He 1370 01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,760 Speaker 1: is the cop who sat there when it came to 1371 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:59,160 Speaker 1: Uranium one. He quots the inside informant, He spots the 1372 01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:02,719 Speaker 1: entire investor and the whole reason he's there. If Trump 1373 01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,280 Speaker 1: wins in twenty twenty, he'll be there for four more years. 1374 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,880 Speaker 1: If Pence wins in twenty twenty four, he'll be there 1375 01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:09,639 Speaker 1: for four more years. He's going to be there because 1376 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,960 Speaker 1: he's protecting two presidents, he's protecting two attorney generals, he's 1377 01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:17,840 Speaker 1: protecting two FBI directors. One Secretary of State, possibly two, 1378 01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,800 Speaker 1: and a plethora of others from those nine other departments 1379 01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,160 Speaker 1: that all approved uranium one. But we know there was 1380 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:28,800 Speaker 1: robbery and quid pro quo definitely done. Well, you're right, 1381 01:30:28,840 --> 01:30:31,400 Speaker 1: that's why it's a total service. Muller was involved in 1382 01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,479 Speaker 1: the uranium one investigation and what became of that og nothing. 1383 01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:41,559 Speaker 1: Komey was involved, Andrew Weissman was involved, his name and 1384 01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:45,440 Speaker 1: signature are on some of the documents. And Rod Rosenstein 1385 01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:51,720 Speaker 1: was also involved. So you know, the you know, the 1386 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:56,240 Speaker 1: coincidence is lost on nobody there. The fact of the 1387 01:30:56,280 --> 01:31:00,360 Speaker 1: matter is that that investigation of Hillary Clinton and pay 1388 01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:05,479 Speaker 1: to play corruption quietly vanished under the Obama administration and 1389 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:09,919 Speaker 1: Hillary and Bill's longtime friend and a political ally, Lauretta 1390 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:14,240 Speaker 1: Lynch who was the Attorney General. But you're you know, 1391 01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:18,320 Speaker 1: you're right about it. That was another whitewash, and Muller 1392 01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 1: is at the helm. Let's go to our next caller. 1393 01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:24,519 Speaker 1: Chris joins us from Cleveland. Hey, Chris, hi, Greg, how 1394 01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,519 Speaker 1: are you today? Good? Good? I want to tell you 1395 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:30,880 Speaker 1: a great job you would Thank you, Derek Carter for 1396 01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:34,080 Speaker 1: all that you've done. Thank you. I work as an 1397 01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,559 Speaker 1: auditor for a government agency. I don't want to say 1398 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:40,000 Speaker 1: who's not at the federal level, but I've been auditing 1399 01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:48,040 Speaker 1: a long time and anytime that fraud is involved, there's irregularities, omissions, 1400 01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:52,200 Speaker 1: reckless disregard for the truth. I mean, they've hit on 1401 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:55,320 Speaker 1: every one of these. My question is, if these are 1402 01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:59,600 Speaker 1: criminal acts that have been committed, why can't anything be 1403 01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,000 Speaker 1: done about it? And what are we going to do 1404 01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:05,799 Speaker 1: about the FBI, because if they've been compromised, it bleeps 1405 01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:09,800 Speaker 1: through the entire agency. Well, I agree with you completely, 1406 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:14,520 Speaker 1: and frankly, I'm hoping that the new Attorney General, William Barr, 1407 01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:20,720 Speaker 1: will launch a full fledge, legitimate, sincere investigation of the 1408 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:25,919 Speaker 1: misconduct by the FBI and some members of the Department 1409 01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,560 Speaker 1: of Justice. And that would mean not just giving it 1410 01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,280 Speaker 1: to a guy named John Hoover that nobody has ever 1411 01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:36,760 Speaker 1: heard of or heard from since, which I suspect is 1412 01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:42,080 Speaker 1: just window dressing. But you know, put in, put a 1413 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:48,439 Speaker 1: team of legitimate investigators together, prosecutors presented to a grand jury. 1414 01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,760 Speaker 1: Let the grand jury decide whether there's sufficient evidence that 1415 01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:56,400 Speaker 1: crimes were committed. Absent that, let's appoint a special counsel. 1416 01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,960 Speaker 1: The law enforcers became the law breakers and they should 1417 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,000 Speaker 1: beheld accountable. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be 1418 01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:06,839 Speaker 1: right back with more. Welcome back to the Sean Hannity 1419 01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 1: Show on Greg Jarrett, author of the book The Russia Hoax, 1420 01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:15,479 Speaker 1: The Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. 1421 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:19,439 Speaker 1: So here we are two and a half years into 1422 01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:25,400 Speaker 1: all of this. The FBI, the US Intelligence Apparatus, the 1423 01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:30,719 Speaker 1: mainstream media, Democrats, and who can forget Special Counsel Robert 1424 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:35,559 Speaker 1: Muller and his team of partisans have been searching every 1425 01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:39,960 Speaker 1: obscure corner and crevice for some proof that Donald Trump 1426 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:44,639 Speaker 1: colluded with Russia to steal the two thousand and sixteen 1427 01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:49,280 Speaker 1: presidential election. They seemed to believe that Trump could not 1428 01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:55,639 Speaker 1: possibly have won absence some treasonous conspiracy that was hatched 1429 01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:58,960 Speaker 1: by him in the bowels of the Kremlin. They were 1430 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:03,880 Speaker 1: convinced he was an illegitimate president. And besides, Comey and 1431 01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:07,639 Speaker 1: his minions just didn't like Trump. He threatened to drain 1432 01:34:07,720 --> 01:34:09,640 Speaker 1: the swamp. They were the swamp. They didn't want to 1433 01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,120 Speaker 1: be drained, and so they went after in with a vengeance. 1434 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,840 Speaker 1: And here we are two and a half years later. 1435 01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:21,599 Speaker 1: Is there any evidence of collusion with Russia to win 1436 01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:26,599 Speaker 1: the election. The answer is no, but the investigation by 1437 01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:32,240 Speaker 1: Robert Muller will continue. You can bet on that. I 1438 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,559 Speaker 1: hope you'll buy my book and read it, The Russia Hoax, 1439 01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:38,799 Speaker 1: The Illicit Scheme to clear Hillary Clinton and frame Donald Trump. 1440 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,720 Speaker 1: My Twitter handle is at Greg Jarrett. Thank you for 1441 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:47,160 Speaker 1: being with us. I'm Greg Jarrett in for Sean Hannity 1442 01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:52,240 Speaker 1: on The Sean Hannity Show. Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays. Bye 1443 01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:52,400 Speaker 1: bye