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Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space.

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Speaker 2: Most of us spend the majority of our waking hours working,

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Speaker 2: not helpful to you or anyone in your life.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration,

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Speaker 2: You welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to

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Speaker 2: uplifting women like you. We're your hosts, doctor Dominique Broussard,

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Speaker 2: a college professor and psychologist.

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Speaker 3: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a

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Speaker 3: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please

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Speaker 3: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from

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Speaker 3: five rooids to fake friends, and create a safe space

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Speaker 3: where black women can just.

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Speaker 2: Be high quote of the day. There is no passion

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Speaker 2: to be found in playing small, in settling for a

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Speaker 2: life that is less than the one you are capable

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Speaker 2: of living. From the comparable Nelson Mandela. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: a one word, sir, for the folks in the back.

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Speaker 2: There is no passion to be found in playing small,

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Speaker 2: in settling for a life that is less than the

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Speaker 4: Okay, you ready for this conversation. Let's do it. You're

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Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Well when I hear this quote, what it makes me

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Speaker 3: think about dom is people that I have observed in

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Speaker 3: life who live their life for other people or who

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Speaker 3: didn't pursue their dreams for whatever reason. Yeah, and at

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Speaker 3: the end of their life, like life is so precious,

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Speaker 3: at the end of their life, they did not have

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Speaker 3: it gives me a lot of sadness when they thinking

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Speaker 3: the funeral of the funeral that the cemetery is one

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Speaker 3: life is so precious like that, Just yeah, it's not guaranteed,

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Speaker 3: Like you really have to prioritize your goals and life

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Speaker 4: What about you?

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Speaker 2: Oh that is sitting with me, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: Or create situations where we feel like we have to

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Speaker 2: play small. And this quote is a reminder that it

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Speaker 2: does not serve us to play small. That ideally are

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Speaker 2: our best life is a life in which we are

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Speaker 2: we're focused on career because for most of us, our

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Speaker 2: career is a huge part of our day. Yeah, when

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Speaker 3: Especially in the long term, because I think we're going

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Speaker 3: But we think it'd be important for us to just

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Speaker 2: Let it so, you know, if you look on our bios,

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Speaker 2: And the thing that has always been important for me

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Speaker 4: That was a great overview. And one of the things

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Speaker 3: Yes, you're welcome a single black woman have that type

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Speaker 4: But I love that.

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Speaker 3: What I love about Donald's journey too is that Dom

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Speaker 4: What is she doing with her life?

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Speaker 3: But I got my Bachelor of Science and Business Administration

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Speaker 3: Does it allow you to travel? Does it pay for

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Speaker 3: I feel like after that, I've been trying to figure out, Okay,

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Speaker 4: So that's what rair.

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Speaker 3: Hey lady, it's Terry here, Dom and I want to

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Speaker 3: So that's the first one. The X stands for highlighting

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Speaker 3: your X factor. So understanding what is your competitive advantage?

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Speaker 3: What are you bringing to the table that no one

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Speaker 3: else is bringing? How can you set yourself set yourself

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Speaker 3: apart from the competition and the other candidates, So really

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Speaker 3: having a clear understanding of your value proposition. The T

445
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Speaker 3: is being tactical and I'm gonna be honest. I don't

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Speaker 3: remember what the hell we talked about. What we talked

447
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Speaker 3: about being tactical?

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Speaker 4: What did we do? You remember?

449
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Speaker 3: Like what we every day about being strategic? Just being strategic. Okay, okay, lady,

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Speaker 3: go listen to the episode because it's from Steven fourteen

451
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Speaker 3: and we are now on We're damn near and season

452
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Speaker 3: twenty one, so bear with us here, but yeah, go

453
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Speaker 3: check that out so you can learn more about what

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Speaker 3: we said for being tactical.

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Speaker 4: Refreshing. I'm a.

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Speaker 3: That refreshing was kind of going back to enthusiasm, like

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Speaker 3: coming in with a refreshing sense of energy and like

458
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Speaker 3: a just a good vibe and energy in general, and

459
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Speaker 3: also kind of going back to the X factor presenting

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Speaker 3: something that is new and fresh. So Domini novel, Yes,

461
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Speaker 3: domin I talked about ways in which we stood out

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Speaker 3: in interviews, And I know one of the things that

463
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Speaker 3: I love to do is I love show and sell.

464
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Speaker 3: I think I was one of those kids in like

465
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Speaker 3: preschool who I love to just bring stuff to show

466
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Speaker 3: and seale. So I'm always trying to figure out what

467
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Speaker 3: can I how can I dress in a way or

468
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Speaker 3: wear a color that stands out? So usually I try

469
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Speaker 3: to wear a bright color or something colorful in interviews,

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Speaker 3: and then what can I bring as like a show

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Speaker 3: and sales.

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Speaker 4: So for me, it's usually some.

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Speaker 3: Type of accomplishment book that's catered to the particular role

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Speaker 3: so that I can send it to them in a

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Speaker 3: PDF after or if I'm interviewing a person, I can

476
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Speaker 3: have the book with me and people are going to

477
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Speaker 3: remember that because everyone's not doing that, they're not taking

478
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Speaker 3: the time to do that, so refreshing. And then the

479
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Speaker 3: a for extra is anecdotal, So showing up with actual

480
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Speaker 3: stories and being prepared to share your actual experiences. I

481
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Speaker 3: think we're going to cover this a little later. But

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Speaker 3: sometimes in interviews they'll ask those situations or behavioral questions,

483
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Speaker 3: and I noticed for myself, I those questions could be tricky,

484
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Speaker 3: like if you don't prepare, it can be hell hella

485
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Speaker 3: challenging to come up with something on the spot. So

486
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Speaker 3: just imagine a world where someone's like, okay, Elizabeth, tell

487
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Speaker 3: me about a time when you had a conflict with

488
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Speaker 3: your colleague and how you overcame it. I feel like

489
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Speaker 3: if people if you don't prepare appropriately, you sound like

490
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Speaker 3: you pull with shit out your ass, and what that

491
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Speaker 3: sounds like, is you being super general when they're asking

492
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Speaker 3: for a specific example and you're like.

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Speaker 4: Oh, well, you know, if you have a conflict with

494
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Speaker 4: your colleague, you know you just talk to them, and DA,

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Speaker 4: that's not answering the question.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Being anecdotal is actually pulling in stories, which means that

498
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Speaker 3: you need to prepare and you need to have some

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Speaker 3: of those behavioral questions, perhaps for yourself, so that you

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Speaker 3: can be able to jog.

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Speaker 4: Your memory in the moment.

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Speaker 2: Right, And in that episode we give you some more

503
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Speaker 2: concrete examples and ways in which you can do that

504
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Speaker 2: that will set you up or success. And so then

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Speaker 2: the part two of this episode of how to stand

506
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Speaker 2: out in a job interview, we have the Star method,

507
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Speaker 2: and with the Star method, each of your interview answers

508
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Speaker 2: needs to follow this particular strategy. So the S is

509
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Speaker 2: for situation, So describe the situation where everything happened. The

510
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Speaker 2: T is for tasks, describe the task you had to

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Speaker 2: complete in order to solve the problem or issue at hand.

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Speaker 2: So the S std also be also stand for.

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Speaker 4: Kind of setting the sin.

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Speaker 2: Right, So you're describing what the situation is, then you

515
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Speaker 2: get to the task. And then the A is for action,

516
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 2: and you explain what actions you took to complete the

517
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Speaker 2: previously mentioned tasks. And then the R is for results.

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Speaker 2: Talk about the results of your action, and you want

519
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Speaker 2: to be as detailed as possible so that your interviewers

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Speaker 2: can get a sense of who you are, how you think,

521
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Speaker 2: and how you operate in these particular situations. And one

522
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Speaker 2: of the questions is also thinking about how do your

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Speaker 2: actions lead to the company or organization functioning better, because

524
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, when you were working

525
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Speaker 2: for another company, when you were working for someone else,

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Speaker 2: what they are looking for is how you will add

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Speaker 2: value to.

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Speaker 4: Them the other way around. Let's be very clear on that.

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Speaker 2: It's how you are adding value to them, how you

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Speaker 2: will be a benefit to them, and not the other

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Speaker 2: way around.

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Speaker 3: And is super super spot on dom and this lady,

533
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Speaker 3: when you think about this, this requires a lot of preparation.

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Speaker 3: As you were sharing that I was going back to

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Speaker 3: back in the day when I was interviewing aggressively for

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Speaker 3: various roles, and I had a Google doc where I

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Speaker 3: had star and I was for each interview question I

538
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Speaker 3: was going through and like, Okay, what do I want

539
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Speaker 3: to talk about here? Really mapping it out and being yeah,

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Speaker 3: and said earlier tactical and strategic about how you get

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Speaker 3: you planning for this lady. Just to kind of give

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Speaker 3: you a quick idea of where we are, because we

543
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Speaker 3: covered a lot so far and we still have similar

544
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Speaker 3: to coverage. We talked about two episodes that kind of

545
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Speaker 3: fit under the theme of finding the right career for you.

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Speaker 3: We then talked about what two episodes for securing the

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Speaker 3: job and that career feel that you want to be in.

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Speaker 3: And then next we're going to talk ab about thriving

549
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Speaker 3: at the job. So, now you've got the job, so

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Speaker 3: how are you going to thrive in this new role?

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Speaker 2: And so then the first episode that tells us about

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Speaker 2: thriving at work is season eighteen, Episode six, Practical Techniques

553
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Speaker 2: to Enable Black People to Win at Work with Ben Atkins.

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Speaker 4: So one of the.

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Speaker 2: Things that I remember from the interviews he talks about.

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Speaker 2: Ben talks about being agile right and being able to

557
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Speaker 2: be nimble and what that means being nimble and flexible

558
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Speaker 2: in your work environment.

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Speaker 4: And so.

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Speaker 2: It's really about so let's say that you've been assigned

561
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Speaker 2: one role, and we know when we get a job.

562
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Speaker 2: When we sign on for a role, they give us

563
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Speaker 2: the job description and they list all the tasks and

564
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Speaker 2: usually right at the bottom is that phrase other new

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Speaker 2: these as a sign, right, so, and we know that

566
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Speaker 2: that's a catch up phrase meaning that they at any

567
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Speaker 2: point can give you certa some tasks that might not

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Speaker 2: seem like on the surface, it is related to your overall.

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Speaker 4: Job title in description.

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Speaker 2: Exactly if we are in a space, you know, when

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Speaker 2: I'm recalling this interview with Ben, if we are in

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Speaker 2: a space of being nimble and thriving, we are taking

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Speaker 2: that task and figuring out how we use that to leverage,

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Speaker 2: like be serve as leverage for a job change or

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Speaker 2: job promotion, because we're showing.

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Speaker 4: That we can be flexible.

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Speaker 2: And maybe what that means is we're leaving the current

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Speaker 2: job that we're at to pursue something that's related to

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Speaker 2: that that random new task, seemingly random new task that

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Speaker 2: we've been a sign and we've the.

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Speaker 3: Whole new stirk that we have. Yes, Lady, that episode

582
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Speaker 3: is incredibly inspiring. We got a lot of great feedback

583
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Speaker 3: about the episode, so please definitely go check it out.

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Speaker 4: Ben is super inspiring.

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Speaker 3: You are definitely going to hear yourself saying you're preach

586
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Speaker 3: Preacher because he dropping Jim left and right about how

587
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Speaker 3: to make smart and strategic decisions that will propel you

588
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Speaker 3: towards your success. So definitely be sure to check that

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Speaker 3: episode out. And the next one is from season twenty,

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Speaker 3: episode three. It's Reclaiming your Power in the Workplace with

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Speaker 3: doctor Wendy s Williams. And this was an incredibly insightful

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Speaker 3: conversation as well. Had Wendy is amazing love kind of

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Speaker 3: think when you think about the conversation, don what comes

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Speaker 3: to mind for you?

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Speaker 2: Once she wrote a book, so and she has a podcast,

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Speaker 2: we'll check it out. I think that the thing that

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Speaker 2: stands out for me is that she was very clear

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Speaker 2: on defining the ways in which culture and race and

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Speaker 2: society play a role in how we tend to show

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Speaker 2: up in the work guys, how our workplaces tend to

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Speaker 2: engage with us, and how we can use that to

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Speaker 2: understand how.

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Speaker 4: We can show up in a way that's going to

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Speaker 4: be beneficial to us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, again, that was another episode that was incredibly insightful

606
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Speaker 3: and inspiring. And we were also recently on doctor Wendy's podcast.

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Speaker 3: She's just amazing, So lady, be sure go check that

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Speaker 3: out for sure, and again you can take a look

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Speaker 3: at the show notes. We'll have all the episodes listed there.

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Speaker 3: And this takes us to our next category, which is

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Speaker 3: finding the balance. Right, So you you found the right

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Speaker 3: career here, you're securing the job, the senior career field,

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Speaker 3: you're thriving at the job, and now you're like, okay,

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Speaker 3: god damn they working me. I need to find balance. Okay, right,

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Speaker 3: And we have an amazing guest for this first episode,

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Speaker 3: So this is Frost season girl. This was so good

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Speaker 3: Season seven, episode five Executive Women, Living your Purpose and

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Speaker 3: exploring the myth of balance with to Shonda Duckett and Lady.

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Speaker 3: If you're not familiar with Shanda Duckett, just go look

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Speaker 3: her up online, like go engle her, find her on LinkedIn.

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Speaker 3: She is an incredible black woman and she is currently

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Speaker 3: the president and CEO of t I A A. And

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Speaker 3: she's a big deal in the industry. Okay, so just

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Speaker 3: if you don't know her, you need you know and

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Speaker 3: find her.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: That interview was so long ago, but I just remember

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Speaker 3: how it made me feel when we were talking to her.

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Speaker 4: And even after the bat, anything comes up.

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Speaker 2: So there were lots of in our show notes for

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Speaker 2: that episode. We list all like she was dropping the

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Speaker 2: gym Girl, and lots of like tweetable quotable moments. But

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Speaker 2: the thing that stood out for me in that conversation

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Speaker 2: that really helps me kind of refrain how I look

635
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Speaker 2: at that work life balance and recognizing that we don't

636
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Speaker 2: ever really have the balance. But she talked about diversifying

637
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Speaker 2: your portfolio right now to no supposed to be hear that.

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Speaker 2: Most of us might think, oh, she's talking about money

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Speaker 2: like finances, right, No, we're not talking about investments, even

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Speaker 2: though like that's.

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Speaker 4: That's the role that she's right, But what.

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Speaker 2: She's talking about here is how you allocate your time.

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Speaker 4: And what I appreciated.

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Speaker 2: Is that she said, you know, you write down what

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Speaker 2: matters to you and you allocate that and recognizing that

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Speaker 2: in the moment. Like I remember in the conversation, one

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Speaker 2: of the things that she was saying is that when

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Speaker 2: she's in the moment, she's giving one hundred percent. So

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Speaker 2: when she is being mom, she is showing up one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent as mom. She has shut off being CEO.

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Speaker 2: She's not like so all of the other roles get

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Speaker 2: on their own pause so that she can focus on

653
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Speaker 2: being mom right now. She might not spend one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent of her day being mom, but when she's in

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Speaker 2: my mode, it's one hundred percent focused. And what that

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Speaker 2: helped me to realize is, Okay, yeah, so there are

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Speaker 2: aspects of my life. Is I look at everything like

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Speaker 2: a pie chart, and everything adds up to a hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: That on one day, my hundred percent may look like

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Speaker 2: seventy five percent of that goes to my job, twenty

661
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: percent of that goals to my family, five percent of

662
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: that goes to myself. And that's one particular day that's

663
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 2: not gonna be every day. And recognizing that, Okay, So

664
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Speaker 2: if I'm clear that on this day, the majority of

665
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: my time and energy needs to be focused on work,

666
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: then I'm going to be one hundred present at work.

667
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: And when I shift to doing things for the family,

668
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: even though it's a smaller part of my day, when

669
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: I'm there with the family, I am one hundred percent

670
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 2: there with the family. I'm not sending to work, so

671
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: nothing else, I'm not dealing with anything else. I am

672
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: strictly dealing with family. Oooh, that episode has so many gems.

673
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 3: Lady, I'm glad that she pointed that particular point out

674
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 3: down because that is just it was so powerful to

675
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: hear a woman of her caliber seek about how she

676
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 3: has harmony and balance in her life. Did a couple

677
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: other quotes that kind of stand out on this episode

678
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 3: are I wrint my title, but I own my character.

679
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 4: Oh, I rent my title, but I own my character.

680
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 3: And she was just talking about what that actually means,

681
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: right to not be defined by the title that you

682
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: have at a company, and not tying your identity to

683
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 3: that title, but owning your character, owning your transferable skills,

684
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: right and knowing that you can you know, the title

685
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 3: kind of like what we talked about before, Your title

686
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: doesn't define who you are, right, it's your character, and

687
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: your character transcends your ego something else.

688
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 4: She also said.

689
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 3: The other thing I think that really stood out is

690
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: she talked about three things you should never sacrifice, which

691
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 3: are your health, your family, and your character. Oh okay,

692
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: so lady, yeah, I'm sure you're like, oh God, this

693
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: is good. Go check that episode out.

694
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 4: Yes for sure.

695
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 2: And so then that takes us to our next episode

696
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: in Finding Balance, which is season fifteen, episode three, Understanding Burnout.

697
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 2: It's about you, all right. So in this episode Terry,

698
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 2: and I walk you through all of the various signs

699
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: of burnout, the reasons we can be burned out, and

700
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: how to care for yourselves during burning And I think,

701
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: you know, when I think about it. At the time

702
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: that this episode was recorded, this was coming so season fifteen,

703
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: So we're, you know, coming off of the pandemic, like

704
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: people are slowly getting back outside and back into the

705
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: office and recognizing what were the effects of being working

706
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: from home during the pandemic. Right, there was a realization

707
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: for us as a collect right, the realization for some

708
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 2: of us that being at home, it's like, oh, really

709
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 2: am burned out at this job because I am doing

710
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: the absolute most And now that I'm at home, I

711
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: see how much of my time was spent dedicated to

712
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: this job that maybe I don't actually like, right, or

713
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 2: how do I like? It's forced, It was forcing folks

714
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: to kind of reevaluate, right. The other piece of that too,

715
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: was also recognizing that, oh, I don't like this job,

716
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna quit. So this was coming on the

717
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: cusp of the great resignation, right, and part of why

718
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: we people resign. A lot of black women, a lot

719
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: of part of the reason why a lot of black

720
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: women were resigning from their jobs was because of burnout.

721
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: And in this episode we talk about, like, what are

722
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 2: the reasons why people are burned out? Most of the time,

723
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: it's not about you. There are things, particularly for black women,

724
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: there are things happening within the system that you're working

725
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: in which you're working that are not made to benefit you.

726
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: And so because of that, you are feeling the brunt

727
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: of it. Right, black women, we tend to do we're

728
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: feeling the brunt of it. And so now we're burned

729
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: out from this job. And because and also part of

730
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: what we're burned out is because we tend to go

731
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: above and beyond the expectations that are set for us

732
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 2: in these jobs.

733
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 4: The old dude, and.

734
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: We tend to do more than the bare minimal. And

735
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 2: if we being perfectly honest here, oftentimes when we do

736
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: the bare minimum, our black women's bare minimum standard is

737
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 2: usually a thousand times better than everybody else's.

738
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Speaker 3: Bear men, you better tell it time. Yeah, that episode

739
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 3: is good. We have a lot of there's a lot

740
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: of value there. I was looking at one of the

741
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: comments that you were speaking, one of the comments that

742
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 3: we got about the episode, and people just send a

743
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: lot of value from that lady, so be sure to

744
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: tune into that. We also have season nineteen, episode four,

745
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: Beating Burnout with Kelly Bonner, and this was also a

746
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: really great episode. She's the host of Black Girl Burnout podcast,

747
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: so she has a whole podcast dedicated to burnout, so

748
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: definitely go check out her podcast. In this episode, I

749
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: must be getting it must be that last birthday I had,

750
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: because I'm.

751
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: Like, do you remember this? This is season nineteen, what's

752
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 4: without this a few months ago? Yes? Through what's ago?

753
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: So what do you remember from this episode? Dom?

754
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: What I don't remember is that Kelly liked to incorporate

755
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: like playfulness all right, Yes, yes, yes.

756
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 3: That like.

757
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: In playfulness in terms of your self chare to kind

758
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 2: of prevent burnout, right, and recognizing that it's the importance

759
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 2: of like our day to day things that we do

760
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: that help us prevent the burnout. And some of the

761
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: things that she pointed out were not necessarily the things

762
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: that you might find in your typical.

763
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: Like article online.

764
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's funny because as we're thinking about as a podcast,

765
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: when we're thinking about these episodes, I'm thinking about how

766
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: I felt I can't remember all the content, but I

767
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 3: think about how I felt as we interviewed the person.

768
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: I remember Kelly having really great energy.

769
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 3: Yet I also remember after interviewing her, you and I

770
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 3: chatted and I was like, I think I've been burnt

771
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 3: out because I realized it after hearing her sneak about it.

772
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: And she talked about this app that she uses that

773
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 3: I actually downloaded and purchased called the Fabulous App. Oh yes, yes,

774
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 3: I using that for a little bit. But that was

775
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 3: a really good episode, lady, so be sure to check

776
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: it out. I remember being touched so deeply from the

777
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 3: content and Kelly's energy.

778
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: Oh and the other thing that I remember, too is

779
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 2: kind of going back to what we talked about in

780
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: our episode about burnout not necessarily being about us, but

781
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: that she talks about what is strategies that employers could use,

782
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: like organizations could use to prevent burnout within your employees,

783
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 2: because when your employees are burned out, they're not giving

784
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: you the top quality work.

785
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: You're not getting the best.

786
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: And we know where the capitalist society and these organizations

787
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: want the best, but when your people are burned out,

788
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: you're not going to get the best for them, And

789
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: then everybody.

790
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 3: Sewers big exactly. So, lady, this moves us on to

791
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 3: the fifth and final theme for these episodes, and this

792
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,959
Speaker 3: is quitting and moving on. So maybe you done found

793
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: the balance and how you're like this, ain't it to

794
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: quitting and moving on?

795
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: Right?

796
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: So the first episode we have under this category in

797
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 3: season nineteen, episode nine, which is called work to Live,

798
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: don't live to work? How to add more joy, fun,

799
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: and pleasure to our lives. This was a fun episode

800
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: to record and I think everyone needs to listen to

801
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: this episode because who he doesn't want more fun, pleasure

802
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: and we'll see enjoy and joy. Yeah, clearly I need

803
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: to look into that episode again. But this was a

804
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: fun episode. The quote of the day for this one

805
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 3: is a quote that we should all remember, and this

806
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 3: is from a Twitter user because we ex me saying

807
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: it was from a Twitter user, and this person said,

808
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 3: if you died tonight, your employee would have your job

809
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: advertising to fill your role by the end of the month,

810
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: but your friends and family would miss you forever. Don't

811
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: get so busy on making and living that you forget

812
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: to work on making a life.

813
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that part, that part, that part I can't

814
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: stress enough. And I've probably said it in an episode

815
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: because again I can't stress enough. Thank Yeah, I don't

816
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: care where you work. I don't care how great a

817
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: relationship you have with your colleagues. If you died today

818
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: or you quit today, they will be pold. Send your

819
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: job description tomorrow. The business will go on. That doesn't

820
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: mean that your colleagues want more in your loss, but

821
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 2: the business will go on exactly and you, and so

822
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: you don't need to be loyal to a company that

823
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: will never be loyal to you. Now, I do want

824
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: to be clear, because I do work for your company,

825
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: So I do want to be clear that that does

826
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: not mean that you don't give your best. What it

827
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 2: means is you have your priorities, and work is not

828
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: your jibe priority. Your family, your friends, other things that

829
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 2: you value in life are your priority. Work comes second

830
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: or third to those things. And so you will still

831
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: show up and give quality work, but your life does

832
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 2: not revolve.

833
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 4: Around that job.

834
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: And I will say, as you were saying that, I

835
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: could see I could hear someone listening and be like, well,

836
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 3: work is my priority, like I'm in the season where

837
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: it is, and like we were saying before, take what

838
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: resonates and leave the rest because I think ideally for

839
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: us as humans, we should be in a space where

840
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: we can let go of work, we can have work

841
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 3: life you know, balance and boundaries. And I haven't always

842
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: been very good with that, and so yeah, and so

843
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: I think that we should aspire to get to that place.

844
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 3: So we understand lady, if you're not in that place today,

845
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: and maybe family isn't a priority, maybe you are focused

846
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: on work, maybe you're in that season, or maybe you're

847
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: trying to get out of that, or maybe you're one

848
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: of those people who you love your work so much

849
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 3: that you're like, this is what this is my priority.

850
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 4: This is what I want to focus on.

851
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: And that's a lifestyle that serves you and that you

852
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: connect with.

853
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 4: Do you boot?

854
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: But I will say this episode is really good because

855
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 3: we talk about the importance of work life balance. We

856
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 3: answer some really I think insightful questions about how you

857
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 3: can add more joy and pleasure to your life. If

858
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: we talk about identifying and prioritizing pluture and enjoy, infusing

859
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: fun into work in daily activities, practicing mindfulness and gratitude,

860
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 3: and also pursuing hobbies and interests. So this is ten

861
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 3: out of ten, highly recommend, highly recommend.

862
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: And then the final episode in this series is a

863
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: more recent episode, Season twenty, episode seven. I'm out strategies

864
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: for quitting your job. So at this point in the

865
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: gang in the episode, you have decided it's time to go.

866
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 2: I have done all the things I've tried, all the

867
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: tips that carrying doctor Don Gay tried, all the tips

868
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: that they're amazing guests provided, and shit, I still ain't happy.

869
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 4: This still ain't it. Ain't it?

870
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: So this episode will help you strategize how to quit

871
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: effectively and appropriately.

872
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: Because I don't care what industry you are in the

873
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 4: world is.

874
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 3: Small, girl, especially when you're black. You telling, girl, can't

875
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 3: tell you you know? As a psychologist, what I.

876
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 2: Know is the statistics say is that there's only five

877
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Speaker 2: percent black psychologists in the United States, right, So what

878
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: that tells me, just from the statistics alone, is that

879
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: chances are.

880
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 4: People know me.

881
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, people that I haven't psychologists that I haven't met, have.

882
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 4: Firmly heard my name or they know or they know

883
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 4: of the right.

884
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: Yes, and not just black psychologists, other psychologists as well,

885
00:49:53,440 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: And so how I engage with people will follow me.

886
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: That's part of my reputation and that will follow me.

887
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times I've been at

888
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 2: a conference and run into something, met somebody that knows

889
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: somebody that I know in the field, or met somebody

890
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: that says they heard of me. I'm at a conference

891
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: this summer and ran it too. Somebody who listened to

892
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: the podcast, Like she came up to me and she

893
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, you're doctor down and I

894
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 2: was like, oh what, yeah, Like I was so surprised.

895
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 4: I think you showing with me.

896
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: And so.

897
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 4: You never know the people that.

898
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: Know you, and so you always want to show up

899
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 2: and interact with folks in a genuine professional way.

900
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 4: Right.

901
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 2: So saying all that to stay that when you decide

902
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: that you are ready to be done, you need to

903
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: be strategic in how you do it.

904
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 4: And we run through those tips.

905
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: So, like, one of the first things is consulting your mentors,

906
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: because hopefully you have good mentors who will help you

907
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: really assessed is this the best.

908
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: Decision for you right now, in this moment. Right.

909
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: Part of that conversation with your mentors is also identifying

910
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: a timeline, Right, So, do you need to walk away

911
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 2: now or can you give reasonable notice? When do you

912
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: notify your immediate boss, your colleagues, et cetera. So helping

913
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: you figure out out that timeline was depending on the situation, Yeah,

914
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: that will determine the timeline that you need from making

915
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 2: your exit. You want to make sure you have your

916
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: financial house in order, because, like we mentioned before, for

917
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 2: some of us, work is not going to be the

918
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: top priority. But if your finance deserving such a way

919
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: that it needs to be your top priority, you might

920
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: not be in a position to walk away right now.

921
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: So you want to make sure, like you want to

922
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 2: look closely at your finances to help you determine what

923
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 2: is the timeline for making your exit, identify your next steps. So,

924
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 2: do you need time off? Do you need to secure

925
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: another job? Are you launching a business. One of the

926
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: things that I tell folks, and that we kind of

927
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 2: just have most folks kind of have this understanding, is

928
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 2: that when you're looking for a job, it's so much

929
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: easier to find a job when you already have a job.

930
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 4: Yes, why is it so much easier.

931
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 2: There's because of the energy in what you're showing up

932
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: with right o. Jay. If you have a job already,

933
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: you're not necessary thoroughly pressed. Yeah, you're not desperate. You're

934
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: not desperate. Yes, when you are desperate, And I get it,

935
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 2: we've all been in positions where we have been desperate.

936
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 4: That's right.

937
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: But be clear, when you are in a desperate position,

938
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 2: you are more likely to take a job and accept

939
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: things within that job, accept conditions within that job that

940
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: are beneath you, that are demeaning, that are not shelthy.

941
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 4: It's settling. But you are.

942
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 2: Settling, and you were doing it because you need it,

943
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: not because it's the best thing for you.

944
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, lady, And if you're if

945
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 3: you subscribe and believe in like the law of attraction

946
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 3: and everything, and you think about energetically what you're putting

947
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: out into the universe, that I'm so legend at that point,

948
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: don because if you're showing up with an energy of desperation,

949
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: it's impacting what you're attracting as well, right, And so

950
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: I think it's just so important to make sure you're

951
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: in a good headspace in general, whether you have the

952
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 3: job or you have an emergency savings that's going to

953
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 3: help you, you know, navigate that transition. Make sure you're

954
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: energetically in a great place.

955
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: Yes, And once you do that, I think the next

956
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: thing that is to submit your letter of resignation. Always, always, always,

957
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 2: I can't stress enough.

958
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 4: You always want things in writing.

959
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And then if you feel comfortable, because there are

960
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 2: some situations when we leave the job where we don't

961
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: feel comfortable, don't feel safe doing so, provide feedback and

962
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: or an exit interview. Yeah, because in some instances that

963
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: the company, the organization that you work for needs to

964
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: understand why you are leaving so that they don't end

965
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: up repeating the same steps with someone else. Yes, making

966
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: the same mistake split someone else, Lady, does this episode

967
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: sound valuable? So much value here? I do want to

968
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: say we begin the episode with seven questions that you

969
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: can ask yourself to identify if it's time for you

970
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 2: to quit. So definitely check out this episode. We covered

971
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: a lot today, Yes, and I don't think we need

972
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 2: to do a recap because we're gonna put everything in

973
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 2: the show notes.

974
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 4: So we'll put it in the show notes for you, ladies.

975
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 3: You can see the various episodes we talked about the

976
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 3: five themes here, but this episode here should be a

977
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 3: great roadmap for you to just learn how you can

978
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 3: optimize your career experience from beginning to end.

979
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: So, lady, we hope this is valuable for you.

980
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 3: Domina are going to hop on over to the after

981
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982
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Speaker 3: scenes footage. So head on over to Herspace podcast dot com,

983
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984
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,240
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985
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: and black owned, and we thrive because of your support

986
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: and we're here because of you. So thank you, We

987
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: appreciate you, and catch you on the next appside.

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990
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