1 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Fish Trapped and filtered on The Fish on First Podcast Network. 2 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: My name is Kevin Barrada, and I am here with 3 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: my co host, Isaac Zouit. Isaac, what's up. I'm very 4 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: excited with the guests we brought on today. I mean 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: a legend here in Miami. Former MLB player. I mean 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: it's I'm very excited to have our guests, and I'll 7 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: just let you introduce him. 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: Yes, well, you said a legend, I would say here 9 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: in the broadcasting community in South Florida. 10 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: Mister Tommy Hutton, thank you so much for joining us. Man. 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: How are you, hey, Kevin and Isaac. I'm I'm good. 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 4: I'm happy to join you. I don't know about the 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 4: legend stuff, but just happy to be here. 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: All right. 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: Well, I guess the first thing we can start with 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: is just sort of how you transition. You know, you 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 2: played with IT, you finished up with Montreal and that's 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: where you started your broadcasting career. 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: You can sort of tell us how that transition came about. 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 4: Well, it was actually very interesting transition. Last year I 21 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: played was nineteen eighty one. But in nineteen eighty after 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: the season, I sat down and this was way before 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: emails and all that stuff, and I sat down and 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 4: I wrote letters to a lot of ball clubs saying 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 4: that I knew my career was winding down and I 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 4: had an interest in broadcasting. So I did that. I 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 4: got a few responses, but I was with the Montreal 28 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 4: Expo was playing at the time in eighty one, and 29 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 4: in I think it was July or August when I 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: got released the general manager, John McHale. I was actually 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: sitting on the bench and they released me. I was 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 4: sitting with Dick Williams, the manager, to one side and 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 4: John McHale and the other. He said, but we know 34 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 4: you have an interest in broadcasting. If you'd like to 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: stay with the team the remainder of the season, you 36 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: can help out on radio. So I did that. I 37 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: did prem postgame shows, and I did I didn't do 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: any play by play. I just did color. But then 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: as the next couple of seasons unfolded, I told myself, 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 4: I said, look it I was a two forty eight 41 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: lifetime hitter. I went the big superstar. So I'm going 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 4: to try to learn how to do play by play 43 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: and learn more of broadcasting and become a broadcaster as 44 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 4: opposed to an ex player. Who's in the broadcast booth. 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 4: So I worked on play by play. I ended up 46 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: doing a little bit more radio each year, and then 47 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: finally when the Sports Network TSN came into being in Canada. 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: The first year of that nineteen eighty six, I did 49 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 4: the television with Ken Singleton. We were partners up there 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 4: in Montreal. So that's how things started. Actually, the amazing 51 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: thing is that I got released. It was a Sunday, 52 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 4: and on Wednesday, I worked a game on the radio. 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: So I always tell people in over fifty five years 54 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: in the game I was. I was really out of 55 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: the game a couple of days, but actually I was 56 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,279 Speaker 4: preparing for that Wednesday broadcast. 57 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: Wow. 58 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people would would wish that, 59 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: you know, when one career ends, that another one would 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: come about so quickly afterwards. Somebody I wanted to ask 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: you about your playing career because it's something that you're 62 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 2: sort of known for. 63 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: This one pitch, I don't know you heard of him, 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 3: Tom Seaver, you own him. You own him. That's like 65 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: understanding a little bit. 66 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: You hit three twenty gets him, threw eleven walks, hit 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: three homers, drove in fifteen runs. 68 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: How in the world. Did you see him so well? 69 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and a good ops. We didn't know anything about 70 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: ops back then, right, You know what. He threw a 71 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: lot of fastballs, and I was a pretty good fastball hitter. 72 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: It was one of those things that became because I 73 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: wasn't an everyday player, but it was one of those 74 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: things when if I got on a little bit of 75 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: a streak and all of a sudden, I was with 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 4: the Phillies at the time, let's say, and we were 77 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: going to play the Mets. Danny Ozark, the manager, he'd go, hey, 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 4: you're going to be in the lineup tomorrow, severs pitching. 79 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: Guys who'd come up to me in the clubhouse and 80 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: they'd go, hey, you're probably You're probably good for two 81 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 4: or three hits the night, severs pitching. So it became mental. 82 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: It becomes a mental thing. And nobody ever believes this, 83 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: but I actually told him one year. I think it 84 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: was seventy three or seventy four. We opened the season 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 4: the Phillies in New York. Of course, it was Steve 86 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,799 Speaker 4: Carlton against Tom sever and because he was on the mound, 87 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 4: I wasn't the first basement. I wasn't going to be 88 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: first base that year. I was just a backup guy. 89 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 4: But I opened the season playing first base, and I 90 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: hit cleanup that day against sever So not too often. 91 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: I think I only hit clean up one other time. 92 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: How did you do that day? 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: I was one for three? I was one for three, 94 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 4: but sever beat Steve carl in a game it was 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: under two hours. I would imagine, too. 96 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm sure I wouldn't see that for a while 97 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: until you know now with the new rules. But Tommy, 98 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: I mean, when we look back at your career, you've 99 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: never been hit by a pitch. 100 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 4: In your career, that's right, that's right. 101 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: Twenty played appearances and not once you were hit by 102 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: a pitch. I mean, I don't even know what you like. 103 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: That's just an accomplishment that probably will never be done. Nothing. 104 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 4: Well, I wouldn't call it an accomplishment. I would just 105 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 4: say I was you know, maybe I was nimble on 106 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 4: my feet, quick on my feet, I will say. I 107 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: will say in the minor leagues. And I played seven 108 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 4: years in the minor leagues, five in triple A. I 109 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 4: was hit a number of times, so I did get 110 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 4: hit the minor leagues. But for whatever reason, Hey, maybe 111 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 4: that's why at seventy seven years old, I'm still in 112 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 4: pretty good shape. I never got hit. 113 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's sort of the opposite of Derrek Dietrich. I 114 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 3: would get hit everything. 115 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, every. 116 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: Five at bats. 117 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: But you mentioned you you did pinch hit a lot 118 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 2: in your career, And I was just curious about the 119 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: mental game. How difficult or maybe not difficult it is 120 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: to stay focused for seven eight innings and be called 121 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: upon whenever it was, whether it was you know, in 122 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: the ninth or eighth you would be called upon to 123 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: face a guy. 124 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: It's sort of cold. How was it to do that? 125 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: Well, it was, first of all, you always I did anyway. 126 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: I appreciated any manager that I played for that would 127 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 4: give you a little heads up if so and so's 128 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 4: coming in, maybe in the sixth, seventh inning, eighth inning, 129 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: you might pinch it. If you had a little heads up, 130 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 4: that always helped. We didn't have all the knowledge that 131 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: players have today. We weren't able to go back and 132 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 4: look at video of the possible picture that we might 133 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: have to face. It was all on ice to keep 134 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: a notebook, you know. It was all doing things like that, 135 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 4: and a lot of times especially and I think that 136 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: the shot you're seeing was at Wrigley Field. Wrigley Field 137 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 4: was horrible to pinch it because there was no place 138 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: to get loose. The dugout was small. You could run 139 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: up a little runway and maybe get your legs loose 140 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 4: a little there. The runway wasn't wide enough to swing 141 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: a bat, so you couldn't even do it there. Now 142 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: they have areas where you could hit off the tee 143 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: and do stuff like that. So there were a lot 144 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: of ballparks years ago that were tough to get ready 145 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: and pinch hit in. I took a lot of pride 146 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: in it. I found myself focusing better. Actually, I think 147 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: had a better pinch hit batting average than a regular 148 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 4: overall average, and I think I ended up with seventy 149 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: eight seventy nine career pinch hits, which I took pride 150 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 4: in that. 151 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 152 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: So, Tommy, just going back to the broadcasting, you go 153 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: with a couple of teams. If you're broadcasting, how did 154 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: you end up joining what was. 155 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 3: At the time the Florida Marlins. 156 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: What was that transition? Like? 157 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: The process with the interview and. 158 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 4: Just yeah, a cool story, well maybe not so cool. 159 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: Over the years, I became very good friends. We were teammates, 160 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: became very good friends with Gary Carter the Lake Gary 161 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 4: Carters with the Mets and Gary and our neighbors. We 162 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 4: used to play golf lot together. I was working with 163 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: the Toronto Blue Jays and Gary and Jay Randolph were 164 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 4: the first broadcasters for the Marlins ninety three, ninety four, 165 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: ninety five, ninety six, and I think it was during 166 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 4: the season of ninety six I got a call. I 167 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: was up in Toronto and I got a call from 168 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: Gary and he said, Hey, the Marlins, I understand, are 169 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: going to make some changes, and I believe it was 170 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: Sports Channel at the time. They're going to incorporate Joe 171 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: Angel and Dave O'Brien who were on the radio, and 172 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 4: they're going to make some changes, and hey, maybe you 173 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: and I can work together. So he was all excited 174 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: about that. So I said, oh great, I'll make a 175 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: couple of calls and i'll, you know, see what's going on. Well, 176 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: as they got deeper into the conversations, I found out 177 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: they were getting rid of Gary. And here's my friend 178 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: who opened the door to give him a call. So 179 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: one thing led to another and I ended up ended 180 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 4: up getting the job and working my first year in 181 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety seven with Dave O'Brien and Joe Angel, who 182 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: split time on radio and TV, and Gary really went 183 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: into managing in the minor leagues, and I think that's 184 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: really what he wanted to do anyway. So after a 185 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: couple of years we were okay. 186 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's actually pretty interesting. 187 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: And you know, you had a long Marlin's career obviously 188 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: broadcasting you're back with them. Is there a favorite moment 189 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: that you've had in the booth. I'm sure the Royal 190 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 2: Holiday Perfect Game comes to mind. I was actually in 191 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: the tendance for that one as well. Is there a 192 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 2: special moment that you really enjoyed being the booth. 193 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: For, you know, just because it's interesting when they get 194 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 4: to postseason being on television, we're really not in the booth. 195 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 4: I remember in three, Lenn Casper and I did some 196 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: pre and postgame stuff, so we were involved. The clinching 197 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: games in tinety seven and O three are always, uh 198 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 4: fun to think about. I remember the no hitters. I 199 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 4: remember Annibal Sanchez. I remember remember the no hitter that A. J. 200 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 4: Burnett threw when he had I think he walked nine 201 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: guys about the about the fifth inning, you know, because 202 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 4: there were base runners every inning, and about the fifth 203 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: or sixth inning, I looked over at Dave O'Brien, my partner, 204 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 4: and I said, Obie, I said, I think he's got 205 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 4: a no hitter going, and we had to look up 206 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 4: on the scoreboard figure out they hadn't gotten a hit. 207 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: But uh, I remember that. I remember, you know, seeing 208 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: some of the bombs that dan Ugler hit. Uh that 209 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 4: that group was a good group to be around, Mike 210 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: Jacobs and Dan Ugler and all those guys. So I 211 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 4: remember that too, and. 212 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: See that boom and drive booming, drive, he said, drive. 213 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: Dandler. 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Obviously, 223 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: you pinch it a lot in your career, so it's 224 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: not something that happens anymore. A lot of new rules 225 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball, universal DH, pitch clock. I'm just 226 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: curious your thoughts betting of the shift. I'm curious about 227 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: your thoughts on a lot of these rules, if there's 228 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: one that you really dislike or there's a couple that 229 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: you really are for. 230 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, with the DH, there's not as much pinch hitting, 231 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 4: obviously because you don't have the pitcher coming up and 232 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 4: so you don't have as much pinch shitting, but you 233 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: you have more versatile type players, guys like Garrett Hamps 234 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: and guys like John Birdie, Xavier Edwards who's just called up, 235 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 4: so you have you love to have guys like that 236 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 4: with the DH and with the makeup of the team 237 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 4: the way the Marlins is. I'm really not opposed to 238 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: any of the changes. I was always a stickler for 239 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: changing and not having the DH until over the years, 240 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 4: most kids that arrived at the big league level they 241 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: didn't know how to hit because they didn't hit in 242 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: high school. Pitchers they were dhing in high school. So 243 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: when pitchers could hit and could really swing the bat 244 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 4: and help themselves, I thought it was a great game. 245 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: But I don't mind the DH because over the last 246 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty years, A lot of a lot of 247 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 4: pitchers just can't swing the bat, and to send them 248 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: up there at times was embarrassing. So I don't mind 249 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: the DH I don't mind the pitch timer. I think 250 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 4: it's great. I think the pace of the game. I know, 251 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: doing games, we find ourselves not looking down the scorebook 252 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 4: and doing things like we used to. You really have 253 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 4: to pay attention. And the bigger bags, I don't see 254 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 4: much of the difference. I don't think that's made, in 255 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: my opinion, too much of the difference pitchers going over 256 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 4: a couple of times, maybe we might see a few 257 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 4: more stolen bases, but no, I think the new rules 258 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: no shifts, fantastic. If a guy, if a guy hits 259 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 4: a ball, can swing the bat. I mean, if you're 260 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: gonna create more action on the bases and get a 261 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 4: few more base hits, it's a better game. It's a 262 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: better game. 263 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, just going on to the game itself. Talking 264 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: a little bit about the Marlins. They currently find themselves 265 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: two games over five hundred at the moment of the recording, 266 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: saying is going to go on the mountain, you know, 267 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: at ten pm for us, but pretty soon for them 268 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: Against the Giants against Anthony Desclifani. Just Tommy would have 269 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: been your thoughts on this team. I mean, definitely we're 270 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: seeing a better product from last year, but we obviously 271 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: see some issues that still we saw last year that 272 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: was seeing this year. 273 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's a better it's a better products, a 274 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 4: better ball club I think than last year. You know, 275 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 4: they've had their injuries. Everybody has injuries. I hate to 276 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 4: see Jazz and also Heesu Sachez because he was really 277 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: swinging the bat well before he got injured. And I'm 278 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: talking about two left handed bats and somewhere down the 279 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 4: road that's gonna have an effect because you get some 280 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 4: good right handed pitching, you like to have a couple 281 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 4: of solid left handed bats in the lineup, and with 282 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 4: those two guys on the il, you're not going to have. 283 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 4: But watching the way Skip Schumacher handles what he has 284 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: really been impressed. I mean, the guys play hard for him. 285 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: He's hit and run a handful of times, maybe more, 286 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: which you don't see too often anymore. And he plays 287 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: that kind of game. And the bullpen not always crazy 288 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 4: about seeing a young pitcher coming out after five innings, 289 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: but because down the road, you're going to wear out 290 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: your bullpen and guys are gonna get burned out. But 291 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 4: so far, so good. The has been good. I think 292 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 4: as the year goes on, hopefully we'll see Luzardo take 293 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 4: games a little deeper. Maybe Cabrera. I know they're going 294 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 4: to be real careful with Eori Perez, and when Trevor 295 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 4: Rodgers comes back, hopefully he can take games a little 296 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: bit deeper. And I know Sandy's going to turn things 297 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: around because all of his stuff is there. He's throwing 298 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: the ball well and he just needs to keep the 299 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 4: ball down a little bit more and he'll be fine. 300 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 4: People keep asking me what's wrong with Sandy. He'll be fine. 301 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: I couldn't agree more. And I want to go back 302 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: to something you mentioned, the left handed. 303 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Bats or like thereof one of the main one I 304 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 2: think on the team is just in junior And some 305 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: would say, you know this, he maybe doesn't get hurt 306 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: if he's in center field. If he's not in center field, 307 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 2: what were your initial thoughts when the team decided to 308 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: put him in center field when they acquired Louisa rise Well. 309 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 4: First of all, let me ask you how much time 310 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: did he miss last year a lot. What was did 311 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: he play last year? All right, if you're gonna get hurt, 312 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 4: you're gonna get hurt. So it's not because of center field. 313 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: What was your question again. 314 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 3: Because your thoughts on how he's adjusted. 315 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: Oh, I thought I thought he was. I thought he 316 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 4: made a great adjustment. When I heard in spring training 317 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 4: that that was going to be the plan, I had 318 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: no issues at all. The only issue I had was 319 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 4: does he want to play center field? And and he 320 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 4: does and he did at the time, And he's put 321 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: in a lot of work. He's put in a lot 322 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: of time, and I've I've watched him play and I 323 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: don't think he's had a couple of misplays. He's had 324 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: a couple of misreads. That's to be expected, but other 325 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 4: than that, overall, I think he's done a really nice job. 326 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: And then the other player I wanted to ask you 327 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: about is is Eerie. I mean, we've already seen this 328 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: guy too. Starts in what are your initial thoughts? And 329 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: the kid we saw him in spring training struggled a 330 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: little bit, but showed the potential he had. And I mean, 331 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: he's looking good in the big leagues and he's now 332 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: slated to start course field against the Rockies. 333 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll be interesting for him. You know, it's never 334 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: a great place to pitch. But I think the thing 335 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 4: that's impressive to me is the first of all, he's twenty. 336 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 4: The secondly, he's six foot eight, and he's able to 337 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: repeat his delivery. And he's always even when he was 338 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: eighteen and nineteen, he's always come with good control. That's 339 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: always been one of the things that's been said about Eori, 340 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 4: and that's amazing. Number one for a young pitcher, and 341 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 4: number two for a guy who's six foot eight. 342 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: Oh two pitches over called strike three, the first of 343 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: many in the big leagues for Uri pair Rez. 344 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: You think it's deeficult for a person of his height 345 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 2: to just repeat delivery the way he has. I don't 346 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: know if you're a big run differential guy, but the 347 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: Marlins sprily, I believe, have the second worst run differential 348 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball, but they're two games over five hundred. 349 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: Do you think that this is sustainable for this team? 350 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: Do they how what it takes to go deep into 351 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: late September still in it? 352 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: I think they do. I think it'd be better if 353 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 4: the two left handed bats were back in the lineup. 354 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 4: But if they can sustain while those guys are out, 355 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 4: you never know. We saw it with Philadelphia last year. 356 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 4: If you just get in, that's all you need to do, 357 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 4: and all of a sudden, if your pitching starts to 358 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 4: click at the right time, that's all the matters. And 359 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 4: the last time I checked, they don't look at run 360 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 4: differential to see who's first, second, and third place in 361 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: the league. They look at first, second and third place. 362 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 4: Who's a wild card. Yeah, it'd be nice to have 363 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 4: a big run differential the way the Atlanta Braves do. 364 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 4: But if they just keep battling away, I think this 365 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 4: is a real telling road trip. They're out for ten days, 366 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: not easy, I mean San Francisco, then you go back 367 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 4: to Denver and then back west to Anaheim. Giants were 368 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: playing pretty good. Denver's always been a tough place for 369 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: the Marlins to play the Angels. They got a good 370 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 4: chance of running into Otani in one of those games, 371 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: So this is a tough trip. If they can if 372 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 4: they can play five hundred, they go five and five 373 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 4: on this trip, that would be fantastic. 374 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's actually work for what we were saying before 375 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 2: you hopped onto it. If they can get out of 376 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: their five hundred. 377 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: Five and five. That's I think best case scenario for 378 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: this team. 379 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: Last thing I want to ask you about this seem 380 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: specifically obviously Skip Schumacher's first season as manager, and it 381 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: just seems like he's, you know, making all the right moves, 382 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: whether it's bringing in Brazabon at the right time, or 383 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: it's giving Sigura a few days, just seems to be 384 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: doing everything right. 385 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: Would have been your thoughts on Skip's first season. 386 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 4: I like the way he's handled a lot of guys. 387 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 4: I love what he did with Gene Segura really struggling 388 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 4: and a guy who you know eventually is going to hit, 389 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 4: and a guy who doesn't like to come out of 390 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: the lineup. He wants to play. So that's a move 391 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 4: that a manager has to make, and he did that 392 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 4: and was able to give him with an off day included, 393 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: was able to give him three days, and since that time, 394 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 4: he's been on fire. He's swung the bat ten times better. 395 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 4: So it's a little things like that that managers do, 396 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 4: bringing in a pitcher at the right time. I don't 397 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 4: like to see all the bullpen usage, but I think 398 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: he's used it well when needed, brought in the right 399 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 4: left handed, the right right hander, and then he also 400 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: had he gives guys a day off, a solaire, maybe 401 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 4: a Guriel probably needs a day off once in a while, 402 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: guys like this. Who Guriel's thirty eight, thirty nine years old, 403 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 4: So he does that. So all in all, I think 404 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 4: he's done a really nice job. 405 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: And then with Sandy, do you think maybe he's you know, 406 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: with Sandy, we see the Chicago game, we've both Chicago games, 407 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: or he leaves them in the ninth and then the eighth, 408 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: do you think he's maybe leaving him out there too 409 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: long where you know, hitters are maybe trying to figure 410 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: it out what seeing he's doing to them. I mean, 411 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: this team has struggled, at least the pitching of a 412 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: struggled lot, you know, the third time through the order. 413 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: Do you think me maybe leaving him out a little 414 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: too long as a mistake, Although you know, we know 415 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: Sandy he doesn't want to get out of this game, 416 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: but you know, at some point you got to take 417 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: him out and rely on the bullpen, which you know, 418 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: a floor and puck. Unfortunately, on the i OL, they've 419 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: been very reliable. 420 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, they are, but they can't pitch every night. And 421 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 4: I think when Sandy's there, he's the best bet you have. 422 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 4: He would be the first to tell you if he 423 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 4: made the pitches that he he should have made in 424 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 4: those scenarios, he would have still been there. And I 425 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: think the worst thing, and you guys would probably maybe 426 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 4: not maybe you wouldn't be all over. But let's say 427 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: Sandy is out there, a little struggle, but he's still 428 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 4: got the he's still got the lead, and now they 429 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: go to the bullpen and a couple of guys give 430 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 4: it up. Now, what are you gonna say? Day should 431 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: have let Sandy in. He's done that before he knows 432 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: what he's doing. So if it ever comes to that, 433 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: I'd rather see Sandy al Contra out there. 434 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: I agree in that Chicago instance. 435 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: I do think it was that one was the one 436 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: argument where I was like, you know what Bellinger coming up? 437 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: I think you go to puck in that scenario. But 438 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: you know, I agree that. I'm sure if things went 439 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: south with someone else on the. 440 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: Mound, it would have been complaining anyway. 441 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 2: Well, I think for me, we want to ask you 442 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: about it. Just obviously the thirtieth anniversary, the Marlins Museum. 443 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if you had a chance to go 444 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: check it out. The Teals go back your thoughts on 445 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: the Marlins real deal history coming back this year. 446 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: I think it's a great idea the museum. I was 447 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 4: able to go through a little bit the other day, 448 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 4: took some time and went out there. I think the 449 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: Teal uniforms on Friday, the throwbacks are fantastic bringing in 450 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 4: guys every weekend, guys from the history. I think it's 451 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 4: important to celebrate the history of your franchise because that 452 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: history will get longer and longer and will build longer 453 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: and longer. I mean you look at a franchise like 454 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 4: the Saint Louis Cardinals, I mean you're talking over one 455 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 4: hundred years and the Marlins in just thirty. So I 456 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 4: think it's been great and I think it's really important 457 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: to do that. 458 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think with that we could wrap it up, 459 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: isac Unless you have anything else you want. 460 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: To add, Oh no, just thank you very much, Tommy. 461 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: Even as a very young kid, I've been listening to you, 462 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 2: and whether it's be Rich or with Paul, it's just 463 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 2: been a pleasure to listen to you on TV and 464 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: now get the interview. This was really awesome, so thank 465 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 2: you so much for taking the time. 466 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 4: Hey Kevin, Isaac my pleasure. I enjoyed talking to you guys. 467 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: And with that being said from Tommy from Isaac myself, 468 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: will see you guys on the next one piece out 469 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: and go fish,