1 00:00:00,230 --> 00:00:04,710 Speaker 1: Someone can teach you about not having limits, but where 2 00:00:04,769 --> 00:00:07,830 Speaker 1: you go with that idea can be completely different, right? 3 00:00:08,470 --> 00:00:11,819 Speaker 1: I can teach you how to work without limitation, but 4 00:00:11,860 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: you may make a decision that requires you to not 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: be limited in a way I don't agree with, right? 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,980 Speaker 1: I took the principle of no limitations all the way. 7 00:00:22,739 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: That's why I do what I want to do. That's 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,630 Speaker 1: why people want to pigeonhole it to, make it about 9 00:00:29,310 --> 00:00:31,410 Speaker 1: LL does love songs, but those who really know my 10 00:00:31,450 --> 00:00:34,140 Speaker 1: catalog know that's not really all I do. That's just 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,910 Speaker 1: what the commercial world tries to force feed people. 12 00:00:37,729 --> 00:00:38,270 Speaker 2: Into, you know? 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,020 Speaker 3: Biggest in the game, Joe Crack the Dawn. You know 14 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,029 Speaker 3: who it is, your boy Jada. You know what it is, 15 00:00:58,050 --> 00:01:03,630 Speaker 3: Joe and Jada show. Every show legendary. Every show iconic. 16 00:01:04,510 --> 00:01:09,530 Speaker 3: And today is... We always say those is understated. 17 00:01:11,050 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: But for today's guest.... 18 00:01:13,810 --> 00:01:17,330 Speaker 3: He's probably the epitome of both of those words. 19 00:01:17,830 --> 00:01:19,910 Speaker 2: We'll get into that shortly. Thank you. 20 00:01:20,110 --> 00:01:24,149 Speaker 3: When you think of today's guest, you think of somebody 21 00:01:24,170 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: who really made the word legend make sense. Before the playlist, 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: before social media, before everybody had a brand, he was 23 00:01:38,060 --> 00:01:43,410 Speaker 3: creating moments that moved the culture from Queens to the world. 24 00:01:44,810 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: Hollis to be exact. From the battles to the blockbusters. 25 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,980 Speaker 3: From I Need Love to Mama Said Knock You Out. 26 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:01,770 Speaker 3: Farmer's Boulevard. From the stage to becoming special agent Sam 27 00:02:01,850 --> 00:02:07,510 Speaker 3: Hanna on television for more than 300 episodes. His brother 28 00:02:07,550 --> 00:02:13,630 Speaker 3: has shown you what longevity looks like. When talent Discipline 29 00:02:14,350 --> 00:02:16,210 Speaker 3: and heart are all real. 30 00:02:17,389 --> 00:02:24,410 Speaker 2: He's an artist. He's an actor. He's a businessman. A 31 00:02:24,570 --> 00:02:25,430 Speaker 2: family man. 32 00:02:27,130 --> 00:02:30,549 Speaker 3: One of the original examples of how to evolve without 33 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: ever losing who you are. Ladies and gentlemen, the. 34 00:02:35,900 --> 00:02:39,540 Speaker 4: One and only LL Cool J in the building. 35 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. 36 00:02:45,230 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: They coined the phrase goat after you? Well, the way 37 00:02:49,060 --> 00:02:52,020 Speaker 1: it came up was Earl the Man of Goat, you 38 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,820 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the street ball player, and Muhammad 39 00:02:54,860 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: Ali saying he's the greatest of all times. And when 40 00:02:57,780 --> 00:03:01,030 Speaker 1: you put those two together... You got GOAT. Because greatest 41 00:03:01,050 --> 00:03:03,230 Speaker 1: of all times was just greatest of all times. And Earl, 42 00:03:03,310 --> 00:03:05,130 Speaker 1: they used to call the man of GOAT the GOAT. 43 00:03:05,180 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: So I just kind of put it together and named 44 00:03:07,540 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: my album. So you put that together? Yeah, I put 45 00:03:09,139 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: it together for my album. So you invented the term GOAT? 46 00:03:12,060 --> 00:03:16,380 Speaker 2: Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt. Yeah. Yeah. That's dope. Yeah. 47 00:03:16,910 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: And it's, you know, it's stuck. It's stuck. So, you know. 48 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,820 Speaker 2: It's the gold of everything out there right now. I mean, yeah. 49 00:03:27,020 --> 00:03:29,179 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you made a contribution 50 00:03:29,220 --> 00:03:31,940 Speaker 1: to the world. I'm glad people are running with it. 51 00:03:32,090 --> 00:03:33,570 Speaker 1: I'm glad that people feel like. 52 00:03:34,990 --> 00:03:36,610 Speaker 2: I'm glad I was able to create something that. 53 00:03:37,570 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: people are utilizing to personify what greatness is. 54 00:03:41,020 --> 00:03:41,340 Speaker 2: You know? 55 00:03:41,820 --> 00:03:44,940 Speaker 3: We all get, you know, we trip over one or 56 00:03:44,980 --> 00:03:45,620 Speaker 3: two here and there. 57 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,940 Speaker 2: It happens. You know what I mean? I tripped over 58 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: one and I caught that one. 59 00:03:50,220 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: I always felt like if I A & R' d an 60 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,900 Speaker 3: LL Cool J album, it would be the greatest album 61 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,380 Speaker 3: in the world. 62 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,900 Speaker 2: I always felt that way about. 63 00:03:59,150 --> 00:04:02,190 Speaker 3: Me A & R' ing. Nobody knows you more than Fat Joe. 64 00:04:02,730 --> 00:04:03,170 Speaker 2: Nobody. 65 00:04:03,230 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: No, I appreciate it. Listen, I love making music. It's 66 00:04:06,780 --> 00:04:13,150 Speaker 1: two sides to it because I'm an artist first. So 67 00:04:13,170 --> 00:04:18,650 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily always make music necessarily to appeal to people. 68 00:04:18,790 --> 00:04:21,029 Speaker 1: I just like to come up with crazy ideas and 69 00:04:21,089 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: see how it works. You know, so sometimes it works, 70 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: sometimes it don't. It's kind of like how I approach, create, 71 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,060 Speaker 1: but that's very different because everybody's not like that. So 72 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:33,750 Speaker 1: I'm not conservative. Some people are a little more conservative. 73 00:04:33,790 --> 00:04:36,290 Speaker 1: This is my lane. I'm staying in my lane. This 74 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:38,610 Speaker 1: is what I do. And they kind of, I don't 75 00:04:38,670 --> 00:04:41,290 Speaker 1: really do that. So I have some records that'll be 76 00:04:41,310 --> 00:04:43,789 Speaker 1: your favorite and then some records that people will hate 77 00:04:43,990 --> 00:04:45,500 Speaker 1: and I'm comfortable with both. 78 00:04:45,540 --> 00:04:48,460 Speaker 2: They're dead meat. You know what I'm saying? The last album, yeah, 79 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:49,739 Speaker 2: the African. 80 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,540 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, Black Hole Suite with Sona Jo Betta. 81 00:04:53,580 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 2: That was crazy. Yeah, yeah. 82 00:04:55,060 --> 00:04:58,730 Speaker 1: The album is actually a very good, fun album. It's 83 00:04:58,750 --> 00:05:00,830 Speaker 1: like one of the pieces of work that I'm really 84 00:05:01,870 --> 00:05:02,370 Speaker 1: pleased with. 85 00:05:02,430 --> 00:05:03,909 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Me and Q-Tip, the Force 86 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:06,130 Speaker 2: album is good. What I told... I like the joint 87 00:05:06,170 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: I did with Em. I like that one a lot. Well, 88 00:05:08,940 --> 00:05:10,540 Speaker 2: you ain't like the one you did with Fat Joe 89 00:05:10,580 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: and Rick Ross. No, I do. I do. Nigga, that 90 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,970 Speaker 2: shit rang off. I do. You gotta stop. 91 00:05:15,170 --> 00:05:17,530 Speaker 3: We was on fire for a minute. 92 00:05:17,570 --> 00:05:19,690 Speaker 2: You crazy? It actually, it did well. You know, you 93 00:05:19,710 --> 00:05:22,650 Speaker 2: get people's attention for one day, two days. That's what 94 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:23,770 Speaker 2: this shit is now. 95 00:05:23,950 --> 00:05:26,490 Speaker 3: It's like, it ain't back in the days where people 96 00:05:26,630 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: lived with albums forever. It's like, you cast their attention 97 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: for two days and it's just, it's moving on. 98 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: To be real with you, Joe, I think that you 99 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,300 Speaker 2: just gotta do what you love in life. 100 00:05:39,420 --> 00:05:42,140 Speaker 1: I think, you know, ultimately, you can't live your life 101 00:05:42,220 --> 00:05:46,860 Speaker 1: based on someone else's opinion or based on a response 102 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,060 Speaker 1: to what it is that you're doing. 103 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,020 Speaker 2: You got to do what you love. Period. 104 00:05:51,660 --> 00:05:55,089 Speaker 1: And now, the double blessing is to be able to 105 00:05:55,110 --> 00:05:56,529 Speaker 1: make a living doing what you love. 106 00:05:57,190 --> 00:05:59,230 Speaker 2: Right? You want to be able to do that. 107 00:05:59,290 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: But you can't, You know, as an entertainer, you can't 108 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:08,690 Speaker 1: really concern yourself with constantly, like, thinking about charts and responses. 109 00:06:08,810 --> 00:06:10,950 Speaker 2: Yeah. Like, you can't get caught up in that. You 110 00:06:10,970 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 2: know what? I told Busta, because I dropped the album 111 00:06:13,820 --> 00:06:18,140 Speaker 2: last week. Yeah. Busta dropped the album. I see your bust. Look. 112 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,530 Speaker 3: I said, at this point, let's try not to think 113 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:27,310 Speaker 3: that we're competing with the 18-year-old guy who got, I 114 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:31,410 Speaker 3: need love right now. We just not. Like, hip-hop's a 115 00:06:31,470 --> 00:06:35,350 Speaker 3: young game, right? Well, hold on, hold on. Craig, you 116 00:06:35,390 --> 00:06:38,109 Speaker 3: got to understand something. See, guys, people get a little confused. 117 00:06:38,210 --> 00:06:41,570 Speaker 3: It's not that it's a young game. It's that your 118 00:06:41,650 --> 00:06:42,730 Speaker 3: fans grew up with you. 119 00:06:43,610 --> 00:06:47,650 Speaker 2: Yes. Hello. And guess what? And guess what? Your fans 120 00:06:47,710 --> 00:06:49,940 Speaker 2: love you. but he got to work in the morning. 121 00:06:50,380 --> 00:06:52,260 Speaker 2: So he's not up all night listening to. 122 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,730 Speaker 3: Your album and worshiping the ground that you walk on. 123 00:06:55,790 --> 00:06:58,289 Speaker 2: No, no, I agree. No, I'm just saying. No, no, no, no. 124 00:06:58,370 --> 00:07:00,130 Speaker 2: I'm totally in agreeance. 125 00:07:00,310 --> 00:07:06,020 Speaker 3: What I am saying is at this point, I told Buss, 126 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:08,860 Speaker 3: I said, yo, Buss, man, you ever watch the Game 127 00:07:08,940 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 3: of Thrones? 128 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,620 Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, I watch the Game of Thrones. 129 00:07:10,660 --> 00:07:12,660 Speaker 2: Do you watch the Game of Thrones? I've watched it before. 130 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,340 Speaker 3: So, you know, they sentence guys that are too smart. 131 00:07:15,380 --> 00:07:18,690 Speaker 3: They sentence them to like a library with like a 132 00:07:18,850 --> 00:07:22,470 Speaker 3: billion books. And their life is to read all these 133 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:25,390 Speaker 3: fucking books. And these guys come up with the cure 134 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: for cancer. So I'm saying, yo, Buss, you dropped the 135 00:07:29,300 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: new joint classic with J Dilla. I dropped a joint. 136 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,900 Speaker 3: LL dropped some shit with the Africans there, the M 137 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: to this. So in the library of hip hop, I 138 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: feel like we just drop a new album in that 139 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: whole library of hip hop. And we put something that's 140 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: needed there. It's something that's needed there for people to 141 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: go back and search and be like, yo, these guys 142 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:57,060 Speaker 3: are still doing it. No matter what age they was, 143 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:58,910 Speaker 3: they still was putting quality work. 144 00:07:58,950 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 2: They was doing what they wanted. I understand what you're saying. 145 00:08:02,340 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, girl. Let me tell you something. 146 00:08:05,620 --> 00:08:07,790 Speaker 1: When I go press play on a Miles Davis album, 147 00:08:07,870 --> 00:08:09,490 Speaker 1: I don't think about how old he was when he 148 00:08:09,530 --> 00:08:09,970 Speaker 1: created it. 149 00:08:11,790 --> 00:08:13,970 Speaker 2: Talk slow. You know what I'm saying? 150 00:08:14,590 --> 00:08:16,730 Speaker 1: I think the thing that's not being said that we 151 00:08:16,750 --> 00:08:18,470 Speaker 1: got to be honest about is when you put a 152 00:08:18,530 --> 00:08:20,450 Speaker 1: body of work out, if it's not recognized at a 153 00:08:20,490 --> 00:08:23,130 Speaker 1: certain level, it's painful for some artists. It can be 154 00:08:23,180 --> 00:08:25,980 Speaker 1: painful for artists to not be recognized at a certain level. 155 00:08:26,500 --> 00:08:27,660 Speaker 1: You kind of got to get over that. 156 00:08:28,020 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. You got to get over it. No, no. 157 00:08:32,540 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: The world, the things have changed. The way things... It's 158 00:08:35,740 --> 00:08:39,620 Speaker 1: not just attention span. It's also the fans that you 159 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: have have. 160 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,500 Speaker 2: Grown up and they engage with the music differently. 161 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: They don't love you less. They love you just as much. 162 00:08:49,260 --> 00:08:49,500 Speaker 2: Right? 163 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,890 Speaker 3: But the point I'm getting at is that for the 164 00:08:53,990 --> 00:08:57,910 Speaker 3: last couple of years, I've seen some legends... that could 165 00:08:57,950 --> 00:09:01,740 Speaker 3: put out some legendary albums that are afraid to put 166 00:09:01,820 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 3: out albums because they're afraid of sales or not being 167 00:09:06,820 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 3: as big as they used to be. And we're losing. 168 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:15,829 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you the truth. We're losing great talent 169 00:09:16,010 --> 00:09:17,830 Speaker 3: and people who could bring more to the game. 170 00:09:17,850 --> 00:09:19,910 Speaker 2: But we're like, yo, what's up? What you just described, 171 00:09:20,510 --> 00:09:23,430 Speaker 2: fear is always going to be a problem. Yeah. 172 00:09:23,830 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: You know, you have people that are afraid to succeed. 173 00:09:26,390 --> 00:09:28,780 Speaker 1: You have people that are afraid to fail. Fear is 174 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: always a problem. When you hear people talk about two paths, 175 00:09:32,700 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: fear and love, that's a true thing. So fear is... 176 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:38,660 Speaker 1: That's an issue of fear. You know, when you live 177 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:40,940 Speaker 1: your life based on... When you allow. 178 00:09:42,580 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: Public to define who you are to you and to 179 00:09:46,100 --> 00:09:50,179 Speaker 1: assign your value, you get yourself in trouble. And you 180 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,380 Speaker 1: get in a position where you're afraid to put records 181 00:09:52,460 --> 00:09:54,990 Speaker 1: out because your your value is a sign. You're looking 182 00:09:55,010 --> 00:09:58,770 Speaker 1: for outside validation for something that has to come from 183 00:09:58,790 --> 00:10:01,300 Speaker 1: when you, when you look in the mirror, you know, 184 00:10:01,340 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: whose eyes you, you know what you see in the mirror. 185 00:10:04,900 --> 00:10:06,500 Speaker 2: You know what you see in the mirror. If you're, 186 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: if you want to be honest. 187 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 188 00:10:08,860 --> 00:10:09,100 Speaker 2: Okay. 189 00:10:09,380 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: So, you know, when you're on your a game, you know, 190 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:13,900 Speaker 1: when you're on your B game and it has nothing. 191 00:10:13,660 --> 00:10:15,900 Speaker 2: To do with anybody's opinion. Hmm. 192 00:10:16,059 --> 00:10:19,190 Speaker 1: Hmm. You know when you followed your diet or when 193 00:10:19,230 --> 00:10:20,809 Speaker 1: you didn't. You know when you went to the gym 194 00:10:20,890 --> 00:10:22,650 Speaker 1: or you didn't. You know when you made the song 195 00:10:22,670 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: or you didn't. You know when you wrote more than 196 00:10:24,580 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: you needed to. 197 00:10:25,620 --> 00:10:26,100 Speaker 2: You know. 198 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,900 Speaker 1: So I would just encourage guys to not be fearful. 199 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: I would encourage everybody to not be fearful and to 200 00:10:32,780 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: understand that part of life is growing and part of 201 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,100 Speaker 1: life is maturing. And you're not going to be able 202 00:10:38,140 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: to be 19 forever, but that doesn't mean that there's 203 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,130 Speaker 1: something wrong with being 50 or 40. 204 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,929 Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? It's like, it comes 205 00:10:45,990 --> 00:10:48,130 Speaker 2: with the territory. Speak on it, God. You over here. 206 00:10:48,309 --> 00:10:51,390 Speaker 2: I'm on this. I'm on this. Nigga, what you got 207 00:10:51,410 --> 00:10:51,970 Speaker 2: me saying? 208 00:10:52,010 --> 00:10:54,589 Speaker 3: You probably really only feel like that because you just 209 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:55,189 Speaker 3: dropped out. 210 00:10:56,050 --> 00:10:58,710 Speaker 2: I don't feel like shit. What are you talking about? 211 00:10:58,750 --> 00:11:01,810 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about me. I dropped out. 212 00:11:01,850 --> 00:11:04,910 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? I'm not scared of shit. 213 00:11:04,929 --> 00:11:07,460 Speaker 3: Hip-hop's too young to be a young man's game. Brother, 214 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,020 Speaker 3: I'm not scared of shit. I'm just going off what 215 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,660 Speaker 3: you're saying. No, what I'm saying is I'm talking about... 216 00:11:13,410 --> 00:11:16,810 Speaker 3: In general. We can't and we won't, but I can 217 00:11:16,870 --> 00:11:20,569 Speaker 3: mention you, 10, 20 artists that should have dropped in 218 00:11:20,610 --> 00:11:24,010 Speaker 3: the last 10 years that are fucking incredible that keeps 219 00:11:24,090 --> 00:11:27,069 Speaker 3: throwing out mixtapes. They don't want to throw out an 220 00:11:27,190 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 3: album because they don't want the shit to not chart 221 00:11:30,380 --> 00:11:31,390 Speaker 3: the way it is. 222 00:11:31,460 --> 00:11:34,780 Speaker 1: And that's the fear of criticism. It's the normal thing. 223 00:11:34,820 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: It's the fear of criticism and the fear of people. 224 00:11:38,420 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: It's the feelings of inadequacy that they got to get over. 225 00:11:42,309 --> 00:11:44,030 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? That's the same thing Busta 226 00:11:44,070 --> 00:11:46,830 Speaker 2: said to me. Why you don't drop out? I don't 227 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:47,710 Speaker 2: want to drop out. 228 00:11:48,210 --> 00:11:51,910 Speaker 3: Do I think I'll fucking samurai 90% of the game? 229 00:11:51,929 --> 00:11:53,010 Speaker 2: A kumalata, nigga. 230 00:11:53,050 --> 00:11:55,860 Speaker 3: You want a kumalatata shit? 231 00:11:56,290 --> 00:11:59,580 Speaker 2: Yeah. That's right. What are you saying? Yo, that kumalatata shit. 232 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: That's how I feel, man. You know what I mean, baby? 233 00:12:01,980 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: You can't make me not feel. That's one bad man. 234 00:12:05,059 --> 00:12:07,579 Speaker 2: That's one bad man. You know what I mean? You 235 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,300 Speaker 2: can't make me not feel. Yo, Joe, you watching the line? 236 00:12:10,340 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 2: Man down. Got me watching the line. Watch that man go. 237 00:12:14,780 --> 00:12:17,570 Speaker 3: No, because he said on my joint, he said, what 238 00:12:17,590 --> 00:12:18,410 Speaker 3: you said? 239 00:12:19,230 --> 00:12:19,950 Speaker 2: What you said? 240 00:12:20,030 --> 00:12:20,990 Speaker 3: Summa cum laude. 241 00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: Oh, summa cum laude. Oh, summa cum laude. 242 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: Like what? 243 00:12:24,940 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 2: Graduating from school. Yo, I don't know shit. You know that. 244 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: What about Magna Cum Laude? 245 00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:34,380 Speaker 1: Because I think Summa Cum Laude is second, right? 246 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,069 Speaker 2: Magna Cum Laude, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it sounds smart, right? 247 00:12:39,110 --> 00:12:42,130 Speaker 2: I mean, if you don't know. Yeah, I'm like, wow. 248 00:12:42,190 --> 00:12:48,210 Speaker 3: Somebody say some smart shit, I'll be like, Summa Cum Laude. 249 00:12:49,390 --> 00:12:53,550 Speaker 3: That's what it is. And so, yo, that's all I'm saying. 250 00:12:53,610 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that it's a time where, and especially. 251 00:12:58,340 --> 00:13:02,350 Speaker 2: By the way, y'all both write. You write it. 252 00:13:02,380 --> 00:13:06,430 Speaker 3: You absolutely write with the library that things is needed 253 00:13:06,470 --> 00:13:07,330 Speaker 3: for you. 254 00:13:07,390 --> 00:13:07,770 Speaker 2: That was 100%. 255 00:13:07,770 --> 00:13:12,469 Speaker 1: Well, you keep making your contributions because your music, your art. 256 00:13:13,170 --> 00:13:16,490 Speaker 1: You'll have a song that... I have songs that never 257 00:13:16,530 --> 00:13:18,260 Speaker 1: played on the radio. People come up to me and 258 00:13:18,300 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: tell me that it changed their lives. 259 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. So you can't... You never know who you're 260 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,740 Speaker 2: going to touch with your art. And as an artist. 261 00:13:24,860 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: Guy killed Bin Laden listening to the game. 262 00:13:28,090 --> 00:13:29,630 Speaker 2: Red October, real shit. 263 00:13:29,850 --> 00:13:32,570 Speaker 3: The nigga said he popped Bin Laden listening to the 264 00:13:32,690 --> 00:13:35,350 Speaker 3: game on his. 265 00:13:34,630 --> 00:13:37,850 Speaker 2: Headphones, Red October. I mean. 266 00:13:37,910 --> 00:13:40,590 Speaker 3: I'm showing you how powerful hip-hop is. That's how powerful 267 00:13:40,670 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: hip-hop is. He wanted the game on his shit to 268 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: fucking pop off. Like, it's football, shit, all that. They 269 00:13:49,420 --> 00:13:52,780 Speaker 3: gotta listen to music. For all the real ones out there, 270 00:13:52,820 --> 00:13:54,950 Speaker 3: we keeping it 1800. 271 00:13:54,950 --> 00:13:55,930 Speaker 2: 1800. 272 00:13:55,929 --> 00:13:58,310 Speaker 3: How does it feel to be the first artist on 273 00:13:58,390 --> 00:14:01,450 Speaker 3: Def Jam? And you look better than some of the 274 00:14:01,550 --> 00:14:02,609 Speaker 3: artists they just signed. 275 00:14:02,770 --> 00:14:08,430 Speaker 2: That's it. 276 00:14:08,450 --> 00:14:12,980 Speaker 1: Yo, you're hilarious with that. Look, so Def Jam was 277 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,219 Speaker 1: a production company, right? The label was Street Time. It 278 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: was Party Time, Streetwise. And it was a production, Def 279 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,900 Speaker 1: Jam Productions. It was a song called It's Yours by T. 280 00:14:20,980 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: LeBrock. 281 00:14:22,300 --> 00:14:25,370 Speaker 1: So I went to the store and I bought that song. 282 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: And I sent my demo into Rick Rubin at his 283 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: dormitory in NYU. And when we finally got together and 284 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,980 Speaker 1: made I Need a Beat, I Need a Beat was 285 00:14:35,020 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: the first song on the Def Jam label. That was 286 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: the independent label. And we went from, we did a 287 00:14:40,940 --> 00:14:43,729 Speaker 1: couple of singles independently. And then we got a deal 288 00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:46,930 Speaker 1: with CBS. And I made the albums and all this 289 00:14:46,950 --> 00:14:51,210 Speaker 1: stuff happened. So how did it feel? Man, it felt like, 290 00:14:51,630 --> 00:14:56,300 Speaker 1: you know, a little kid's dream coming true. over and 291 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: over and over again every day. 292 00:14:58,700 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: You know? 293 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,620 Speaker 1: It was like waking up every day and your dream 294 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,380 Speaker 1: comes true. It was the most incredible feeling, man. I 295 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,910 Speaker 1: was doing handstands on the subway on my way to 296 00:15:06,950 --> 00:15:08,970 Speaker 1: the studio. You know what I'm saying? 297 00:15:09,130 --> 00:15:12,890 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy is Moni Love came here and 298 00:15:12,930 --> 00:15:15,250 Speaker 3: she was like, yo, you know, you're like our little brother. 299 00:15:15,270 --> 00:15:17,190 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, I'm just thinking hip-hop. She 300 00:15:17,210 --> 00:15:19,830 Speaker 3: was like, you know, Chris Lighty was our first manager. 301 00:15:20,530 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: And when he signed you, We were all rooting for you, 302 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 3: the Jungle Brothers, the Diz. 303 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:26,900 Speaker 2: Everybody was rooting for you. 304 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 3: We didn't even know you, but we felt like our 305 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,300 Speaker 3: little brothers in the game because Chris Lighty. 306 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: Put you in the game. 307 00:15:32,940 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: So it's similar to what you're describing now. You start 308 00:15:36,380 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: Def Jam, and it flourishes into this big thing. 309 00:15:40,580 --> 00:15:43,910 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And you're just like, yo, I started that shit. 310 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:46,990 Speaker 1: Well, it's incredible because you got to understand, when we 311 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:49,350 Speaker 1: started Def Jam, it was in Rick's dorm room. 312 00:15:50,030 --> 00:15:50,190 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. 313 00:15:51,060 --> 00:15:51,580 Speaker 2: At NYU. 314 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: Meaning, like, you walk in and George is there and 315 00:15:54,330 --> 00:15:56,170 Speaker 1: the record crate's on the floor and there's a drum 316 00:15:56,190 --> 00:15:57,130 Speaker 1: machine and that's it. 317 00:15:57,490 --> 00:16:00,170 Speaker 2: I need to ask you a question, right? All of 318 00:16:00,190 --> 00:16:01,550 Speaker 2: that to what's going on now. 319 00:16:01,590 --> 00:16:04,729 Speaker 1: Yeah, now you're walking in buildings and you're seeing TV 320 00:16:04,830 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: screens with your picture on it when you walk in 321 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,260 Speaker 1: and it's just hilarious to me. It's almost like, you 322 00:16:09,860 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: gotta understand, like, I used to walk out of Russell's 323 00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: office like, yo, Heidi, where's the sandwiches? 324 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: See what I'm saying? That's for you. Your eyes seen 325 00:16:17,460 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: something nobody else. You seen it from the From the beginning. 326 00:16:21,540 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 327 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: You know, I remember sitting with Andre while he's telling me, 328 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,870 Speaker 1: I'm going to start Uptown Records. And, you know, he's 329 00:16:26,900 --> 00:16:29,930 Speaker 1: telling me about it. And, you know, what he said 330 00:16:29,950 --> 00:16:33,430 Speaker 1: and all that. So what he did? Without a doubt. 331 00:16:33,750 --> 00:16:36,430 Speaker 1: So I've seen a lot. You know what I'm saying? 332 00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:38,070 Speaker 2: Seen a lot. Seen a lot, B. 333 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,460 Speaker 3: Nah, you seen a lot. LL done did it all, man. 334 00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:45,030 Speaker 3: It's like, what you saying? I always knew that. But 335 00:16:45,450 --> 00:16:48,460 Speaker 3: I guess this is the value of a podcast, the 336 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:52,230 Speaker 3: way you just explained that, for the first time in 337 00:16:52,270 --> 00:16:56,950 Speaker 3: my life, I said, holy shit, he was there before 338 00:16:56,970 --> 00:16:57,830 Speaker 3: they had a record. 339 00:16:57,850 --> 00:16:59,390 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you think about it, even the 340 00:16:59,410 --> 00:17:02,010 Speaker 1: fact that, may he rest in peace, my man E-Love, 341 00:17:02,370 --> 00:17:06,570 Speaker 1: he's the public enemy logo, right? So my guy who 342 00:17:06,590 --> 00:17:10,060 Speaker 1: stood on stage with me holding the box, they took 343 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,699 Speaker 1: a picture of my hype man and made it the 344 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: public enemy logo. Like, that's my hype man. That's my man, E-Love, 345 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,140 Speaker 1: who was my friend first. Then he was my hype man, 346 00:17:19,180 --> 00:17:21,940 Speaker 1: but That's the public enemy. So for me, a lot 347 00:17:21,980 --> 00:17:23,899 Speaker 1: of the stuff that the way I look at things 348 00:17:24,050 --> 00:17:26,270 Speaker 1: is like kind of a little different. 349 00:17:26,730 --> 00:17:29,649 Speaker 2: I always thought that was the illest logo in hip hop. Yeah, 350 00:17:30,050 --> 00:17:31,130 Speaker 2: and that's my man. 351 00:17:31,170 --> 00:17:32,530 Speaker 1: It was a picture of me and him in a 352 00:17:32,530 --> 00:17:34,510 Speaker 1: magazine and Chuck took it out and put it. 353 00:17:34,510 --> 00:17:36,389 Speaker 2: In a silhouette and made it the P.E. logo. 354 00:17:36,450 --> 00:17:40,419 Speaker 1: So when you see those kinds of things happen and Chuck, 355 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:42,909 Speaker 1: who I think is one of the greatest ever, in 356 00:17:42,930 --> 00:17:45,590 Speaker 1: my opinion, in his voice and everything. And, like, I 357 00:17:45,609 --> 00:17:49,090 Speaker 1: remember before he even before. And before he got signed, 358 00:17:49,150 --> 00:17:51,869 Speaker 1: Rick came to me. Rick wanted to, hey, I want 359 00:17:51,890 --> 00:17:53,950 Speaker 1: to give you a song, Uzi Ways to Turn. I said, Rick, 360 00:17:53,990 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: I write my own songs. But, you know, like, Uzi 361 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: Ways to Turn, like, he wanted to give me Uzi 362 00:17:59,820 --> 00:18:02,899 Speaker 1: Ways to Turn. But let me, hold on, let me 363 00:18:02,940 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: get to this, Mike. Try to explain to me, because 364 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,140 Speaker 1: I don't know. And I think I'm a hip-hop historian. 365 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,750 Speaker 1: What is the genius thing of Rick Rubin? Because no 366 00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:16,090 Speaker 1: one has ever really broke that down to me. And 367 00:18:16,130 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't talk. He doesn't do interviews. What do you 368 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,020 Speaker 1: feel like? 369 00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:22,740 Speaker 3: Because when people talk about Rick Rubin, they talk about 370 00:18:22,780 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 3: him like on a genius level. 371 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,500 Speaker 2: Not real shit. I know what you mean. 372 00:18:28,580 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: He be sitting in the shit with the fucking Akuma 373 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,300 Speaker 3: Kun Lowry and shit. 374 00:18:32,940 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: With plants around him and shit. 375 00:18:35,090 --> 00:18:38,070 Speaker 3: But I can't tell you, I can't break down to 376 00:18:38,109 --> 00:18:39,030 Speaker 3: Rick Rubin for you. 377 00:18:39,050 --> 00:18:43,260 Speaker 2: A nice, natural, organic pedicure. You know, organic little. Organic pedicure. 378 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,340 Speaker 2: A peptide pedicure. Like, you're my man. 379 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,980 Speaker 3: Like, could you explain to me the genius of Rick Rubin? 380 00:18:51,100 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny. Like, so when I first 381 00:18:53,060 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: met Rick, first of all, I called him every day. Yo, Rick, 382 00:18:55,220 --> 00:18:55,780 Speaker 1: you get the tape? 383 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: I didn't get it yet. Call him next day. 384 00:18:57,540 --> 00:18:59,900 Speaker 1: Yo, Rick, you get the tape? I didn't get it yet. Finally, 385 00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:01,310 Speaker 1: he got the tape. So when I went down and 386 00:19:01,350 --> 00:19:04,030 Speaker 1: made him, he said, come on down. I walked in, 387 00:19:04,060 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: I saw him, and he came down at Five University Place. 388 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 2: That's one of the dorms, NYU. He came down. He 389 00:19:10,220 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: was like, who, Jay? I was like, yeah, you Rick? 390 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,940 Speaker 2: He said, yeah. I said, oh, I thought you was black. 391 00:19:13,980 --> 00:19:18,469 Speaker 2: He said, cool. Let's go upstairs. So we went upstairs. 392 00:19:18,910 --> 00:19:19,730 Speaker 2: We go upstairs. 393 00:19:20,670 --> 00:19:23,810 Speaker 1: The genius of Rick is that he helps you facilitate 394 00:19:23,869 --> 00:19:25,290 Speaker 1: whatever it is you want to create. 395 00:19:26,690 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: And also.... 396 00:19:29,950 --> 00:19:32,310 Speaker 1: He knows what to take away. You take a writer 397 00:19:32,330 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: like Ernest Hemingway, he knew what to take away. Rick 398 00:19:34,940 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: Rubin knows what to take away. So if you look 399 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: at my first album, Radio, it says reduced by Rick Rubin. 400 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,390 Speaker 1: It doesn't say produced. It says reduced by Rick Rubin. 401 00:19:46,730 --> 00:19:48,149 Speaker 1: So he knew how to simplify. 402 00:19:48,170 --> 00:19:48,770 Speaker 2: And in life. 403 00:19:49,910 --> 00:19:52,030 Speaker 1: in life in general, if you think about that, if 404 00:19:52,050 --> 00:19:54,369 Speaker 1: you look at furniture, if you look at a room, 405 00:19:54,830 --> 00:19:56,820 Speaker 1: if you, you think about, he knows how to let 406 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,179 Speaker 1: things breathe. He knows how to create space and create room. 407 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: You know, we would do little things like tuck the 408 00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: vocals a little lower. So people have to turn it 409 00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:07,129 Speaker 1: up to hear it. 410 00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:07,939 Speaker 3: Hmm. 411 00:20:09,070 --> 00:20:09,590 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 412 00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:13,169 Speaker 1: There are just little things that he would do. And 413 00:20:13,770 --> 00:20:17,850 Speaker 1: this is the thing. No limitations, right? So I can 414 00:20:17,910 --> 00:20:20,740 Speaker 1: play with avant-garde blues. I can play with rock. I 415 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,780 Speaker 1: can play with love songs. I can play with all 416 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: kinds of things. And there's no limitation. You can't tell 417 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: me what I can't make. I'm not even considering that. 418 00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:33,050 Speaker 1: Whatever I want to make, I'm going to make. Doesn't 419 00:20:33,070 --> 00:20:35,590 Speaker 1: mean you have to like it. Doesn't mean you have. 420 00:20:35,450 --> 00:20:37,370 Speaker 2: To like it. They forced Fat Joe to be a gangster. 421 00:20:37,390 --> 00:20:37,990 Speaker 2: They forced me. 422 00:20:38,130 --> 00:20:40,250 Speaker 3: Right, but see, that's the thing. But you asked about 423 00:20:40,330 --> 00:20:43,869 Speaker 3: the genius of Rick. You're asking about Rick. Yeah, you 424 00:20:43,930 --> 00:20:46,030 Speaker 3: asked about the genius of Rick. The genius of Rick 425 00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:52,369 Speaker 3: is him teaching you what to take away. And keeping 426 00:20:52,410 --> 00:20:53,070 Speaker 3: it basic. 427 00:20:53,850 --> 00:20:54,190 Speaker 2: You know? 428 00:20:55,090 --> 00:20:57,909 Speaker 1: And understanding the right songs for the right person at 429 00:20:57,950 --> 00:21:01,389 Speaker 1: the right time. You look at Johnny Cash redoing a 430 00:21:01,450 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: Trent Reznor song hurt. And you look at the way 431 00:21:06,500 --> 00:21:10,780 Speaker 1: he approaches that, the way Rick would produce that, that's important. 432 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,340 Speaker 1: So that's why you can go and you can listen 433 00:21:13,380 --> 00:21:15,950 Speaker 1: to U2, but then you can listen to. 434 00:21:18,260 --> 00:21:20,060 Speaker 1: But then you can go and you can listen to 435 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,140 Speaker 1: The Cure, you can listen to The Clash, you can 436 00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:27,060 Speaker 1: go and you can listen to, you know, Johnny Cash, 437 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,740 Speaker 1: but then you could flip it, you can go to 438 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,700 Speaker 1: Bob Marley, but then you can go to Led Zeppelin, right? 439 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: You can go to the Sex Pistols, you know, you 440 00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: could go, so, so, being able to really listen to 441 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: all of music and understand all of music going from 442 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,580 Speaker 1: Miles to Coltrane to, you see what I'm saying? You know, those, 443 00:21:45,660 --> 00:21:51,060 Speaker 1: Glenn Miller, you know, Jimmy Dorsey, Tommy Dorsey. So it's 444 00:21:51,260 --> 00:21:58,260 Speaker 1: no limitation on your world of music. And so, you know, 445 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: when I approach music and when I approach my life, 446 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't approach it with any limitations. You know, I'm 447 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,629 Speaker 1: not in this to try to remain what I was. 448 00:22:08,670 --> 00:22:10,129 Speaker 1: I'm in it to expand my soul. 449 00:22:10,150 --> 00:22:11,050 Speaker 2: Right. 450 00:22:11,410 --> 00:22:13,470 Speaker 1: And so that, that's the difference. And that's the thing 451 00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:16,070 Speaker 1: you learn being around Rick. Now we didn't always agree, 452 00:22:16,850 --> 00:22:19,270 Speaker 1: you know, he, you know, like, you know, he, he 453 00:22:19,410 --> 00:22:22,229 Speaker 1: will say is false, but I, I remember him. 454 00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:23,830 Speaker 2: I need love. No, you can't do it. 455 00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:26,580 Speaker 3: You know, he didn't, he didn't agree with that, I 456 00:22:26,619 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 3: thought that's what you was making reference to the whole time, 457 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: like when you came with I Need Love, Nobody Never 458 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 3: Did That, like I thought you were saying. 459 00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:36,369 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. No, I did that without Rick, 460 00:22:36,380 --> 00:22:38,630 Speaker 2: but I did that. So here's the thing, right? 461 00:22:39,330 --> 00:22:43,830 Speaker 1: Someone can teach you about not having limits, but where 462 00:22:43,850 --> 00:22:46,910 Speaker 1: you go with that idea can be completely different, right? 463 00:22:47,550 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: I can teach you how to work without limitations. but 464 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: you may make a decision that requires you to not 465 00:22:54,220 --> 00:22:57,970 Speaker 1: be limited in a way I don't agree with. Right? 466 00:22:58,790 --> 00:23:00,830 Speaker 1: So that's what you have to kind of think about. 467 00:23:00,869 --> 00:23:04,930 Speaker 1: So I took the principle of no limitations all the way. 468 00:23:05,710 --> 00:23:07,370 Speaker 1: That's why I do what I want to do. That's 469 00:23:07,390 --> 00:23:11,590 Speaker 1: why people want to pigeonhole it to make it about 470 00:23:12,350 --> 00:23:14,379 Speaker 1: LL does love songs, but those who really know my 471 00:23:14,410 --> 00:23:17,100 Speaker 1: catalog know that's not really all I do. That's just 472 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,850 Speaker 1: what the commercial world tries to... force feed people into, 473 00:23:20,890 --> 00:23:21,310 Speaker 1: you know? 474 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:26,850 Speaker 2: I'm motivated. Yeah, yeah, 1-900. What? That shit there? Holy shit. 475 00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:27,290 Speaker 2: That shit. 476 00:23:27,550 --> 00:23:27,770 Speaker 1: Yeah. 477 00:23:27,810 --> 00:23:27,990 Speaker 3: What? 478 00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: Hello, Cool J. What's good? You know what I've learned? 479 00:23:46,980 --> 00:23:50,060 Speaker 3: The things that really matter, you can't rush them. 480 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 2: Facts. 481 00:23:51,460 --> 00:23:54,500 Speaker 3: You can't rush the sauce, you can't rush the music, 482 00:23:54,660 --> 00:23:59,210 Speaker 3: you can't rush relationships, and you definitely can't rush great tequila. 483 00:23:59,410 --> 00:24:03,030 Speaker 3: That's why 1800 Tequila stands out. The name goes all 484 00:24:03,050 --> 00:24:06,670 Speaker 3: the way back to the 1800s, when the Beckman family 485 00:24:06,730 --> 00:24:11,610 Speaker 3: started making tequila. And that patience, that attention to the craft, 486 00:24:11,810 --> 00:24:14,450 Speaker 3: has been passed down through more than 11 generations. 487 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: That's legacy. 488 00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:20,300 Speaker 3: Sometimes you just got to let something cook. Juan Beckman 489 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,060 Speaker 3: Vidal aged 1,800 aneo longer than he even had to 490 00:24:25,180 --> 00:24:26,719 Speaker 3: because he knew it wasn't ready yet. 491 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,620 Speaker 2: I respect that. 492 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: Don't put it out just because you can put it out. 493 00:24:30,500 --> 00:24:33,220 Speaker 3: Put it out when it's right. That applies to a record, 494 00:24:33,260 --> 00:24:37,420 Speaker 3: a conversation, a move, a making, and clearly a bottle 495 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,389 Speaker 3: of tequila. Once you get it right, you share it 496 00:24:40,430 --> 00:24:43,210 Speaker 3: with your people. That's always been part of the story. 497 00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:46,990 Speaker 3: Good tequila, good conversation, and the people around you really 498 00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:51,889 Speaker 3: appreciate both. Passion, hard work, honesty. Those words are written 499 00:24:51,910 --> 00:24:56,870 Speaker 3: on every bottle of 1800. And honestly, that's the foundation 500 00:24:56,910 --> 00:24:59,869 Speaker 3: for anything built to last. So take your time with 501 00:24:59,910 --> 00:25:02,700 Speaker 3: what you're creating, and when the moment is right, share it. 502 00:25:02,650 --> 00:25:07,219 Speaker 2: With your people. 1800 tequila. Good stuff takes time. And 503 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: the best stuff's meant to be shared with your people. 504 00:25:13,710 --> 00:25:16,210 Speaker 3: You know what's crazy to me is we talking about 505 00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 3: I Need Love. My brother, rest in peace, Angel, and 506 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: his boys, AJ and all of them, they used to 507 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,700 Speaker 3: throw bus rides to like Kingdominium and parks like that 508 00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: every summer. 509 00:25:29,220 --> 00:25:29,860 Speaker 2: Bush Gardens. 510 00:25:30,140 --> 00:25:33,010 Speaker 3: Bush Gardens. And then one day I'm on the bus 511 00:25:33,030 --> 00:25:35,510 Speaker 3: with them, my man Vance Romance. I don't even know 512 00:25:35,550 --> 00:25:37,790 Speaker 3: if these guys are alive right now, but AJ, I 513 00:25:37,810 --> 00:25:40,580 Speaker 3: seen him the other day, but I remember we got 514 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,820 Speaker 3: on the bus and the whole fucking bus started singing 515 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,379 Speaker 3: I Need Love. I mean, the whole bus, maybe a 516 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,899 Speaker 3: thousand times. We going to Virginia and niggas sometimes stare 517 00:25:52,940 --> 00:25:55,169 Speaker 3: at the wall. I took a just grown man in 518 00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:57,389 Speaker 3: there singing that shit. That shit was. 519 00:25:57,290 --> 00:26:01,450 Speaker 1: Just like, it was different. You know, because we all 520 00:26:01,490 --> 00:26:05,190 Speaker 1: need it. You know, we make music in a culture that, 521 00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:08,330 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of it is ego based. But 522 00:26:08,350 --> 00:26:10,670 Speaker 1: then sometimes you got to get past that and just 523 00:26:10,710 --> 00:26:12,050 Speaker 1: deal with the truth of humanity. 524 00:26:12,750 --> 00:26:13,450 Speaker 2: We do need love. 525 00:26:14,590 --> 00:26:16,649 Speaker 1: Now, whether you have the courage to admit it or 526 00:26:16,690 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: not is another conversation. But you definitely need it. Yeah, 527 00:26:19,859 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 1: but you definitely need it deep down inside. You know, 528 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,820 Speaker 1: and it could be as simple as you needing it 529 00:26:25,180 --> 00:26:28,590 Speaker 1: to love yourself. But whatever you, however you look at it, 530 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,460 Speaker 1: that was the thing. So I never was uncomfortable with 531 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: the idea of being truthful about whatever it is I felt. 532 00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:35,590 Speaker 1: You know? 533 00:26:36,410 --> 00:26:38,140 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? No matter who's watching. 534 00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the ultimate rebellious move because 535 00:26:42,220 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: everybody's trying to be a tough guy. 536 00:26:44,859 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 2: But I'm confident. 537 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,290 Speaker 1: You know, like, it doesn't mean I'm saying you got 538 00:26:49,310 --> 00:26:50,850 Speaker 1: to be what I, you know, you got to be 539 00:26:50,869 --> 00:26:51,350 Speaker 1: like me. 540 00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:51,949 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 541 00:26:52,010 --> 00:26:53,530 Speaker 1: But I'm saying I'm confident so I can say I 542 00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:55,830 Speaker 1: need love and feel very comfortable and then sing I'm 543 00:26:55,869 --> 00:26:57,970 Speaker 1: bad right after it. You know what I'm saying? And 544 00:26:58,050 --> 00:26:59,310 Speaker 1: it's all good. You know what I mean? 545 00:26:59,410 --> 00:26:59,850 Speaker 2: So, yeah. 546 00:27:00,250 --> 00:27:03,900 Speaker 3: I always appreciate it no matter how much you evolved 547 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 3: and how Biggie, you got your passion and love for hip-hop. 548 00:27:09,369 --> 00:27:10,629 Speaker 2: Love it. Always stayed. 549 00:27:11,550 --> 00:27:16,369 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. It never dwindled. It never compromised. 550 00:27:16,550 --> 00:27:20,050 Speaker 3: All right, I'm getting this Hollywood money soon. You always 551 00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:23,130 Speaker 3: kept rapping hip-hop up here, and I love that. 552 00:27:23,150 --> 00:27:24,490 Speaker 2: I love that. 553 00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:27,380 Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, man. You guys get money. 554 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: I mean, a lot of people get money. Man, you're 555 00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: going in one room with your remote control. Knock it off. 556 00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:36,899 Speaker 1: I don't care if you got 500,000 square feet. You 557 00:27:36,940 --> 00:27:39,260 Speaker 1: got one room you like the most and you in 558 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: there like this or like this. 559 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,030 Speaker 2: Knock it off. You're on your phone in that same room. 560 00:27:44,109 --> 00:27:47,730 Speaker 2: I'm trying. A lot of it, a lot of things 561 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:49,870 Speaker 2: I think... That was the illest shit ever. You got 562 00:27:49,990 --> 00:27:52,570 Speaker 2: one room. Yeah, you got a room you like and 563 00:27:52,590 --> 00:27:55,650 Speaker 2: that's where you're going. Everything else is hype. Everything else 564 00:27:55,710 --> 00:27:59,310 Speaker 2: is for somebody else, right? Yeah. Like, why do you think... 565 00:27:59,250 --> 00:28:02,770 Speaker 2: You got your favorite chair, your favorite... Yeah, there you go. 566 00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: There you go. There you go. Exactly. 567 00:28:05,540 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: It's comfortable. Like, you know, like, I don't want to move. 568 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,180 Speaker 1: I mean, you could give me 10 times my net 569 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,300 Speaker 1: worth tomorrow. 570 00:28:13,460 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: I don't see... I might buy something, but I don't 571 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,179 Speaker 2: know if I'm moving. I don't think I want to 572 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: move like that. Like, I'm good. 573 00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:22,500 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. Yeah, I don't want to move. 574 00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:26,050 Speaker 1: So why am I telling you that? There's an old saying, right? 575 00:28:27,390 --> 00:28:29,830 Speaker 1: Professional says, the amateur says, I want to be where 576 00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:32,629 Speaker 1: you're at. Professional says, well, you're going to have to 577 00:28:32,650 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: go through a lot of pain, a lot of trial, 578 00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: a lot of this and that. Amateur says, that's easy 579 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,700 Speaker 1: for you to say you're a professional. So let that 580 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,940 Speaker 1: sit for a minute. So why am I saying that? 581 00:28:44,020 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying it because I know that a lot of 582 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: people want to make money. And I understand how important 583 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,060 Speaker 1: it is. And we do need to make money. 584 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,220 Speaker 2: Yes, we do. 585 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: It's very important that we make money. Like I'm doing 586 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: Dreamfire with Ben Crump. You know, these are important things. 587 00:28:58,740 --> 00:29:01,260 Speaker 1: Fiscal responsibility is very important. 588 00:29:01,340 --> 00:29:02,660 Speaker 2: It's very important. 589 00:29:03,340 --> 00:29:08,010 Speaker 1: That being said, you cannot, I said this to someone early, 590 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,930 Speaker 1: your value cannot be determined by your bank account. You know, 591 00:29:14,970 --> 00:29:17,090 Speaker 1: people always want to say, well, who did the message 592 00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:19,630 Speaker 1: come from? Who did the message come from? I said 593 00:29:19,650 --> 00:29:22,050 Speaker 1: this earlier. If a if a homeless man tells you 594 00:29:22,110 --> 00:29:24,670 Speaker 1: not to do pushups on the subway tracks. 595 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,900 Speaker 2: You should listen. He don't have a lot of money, 596 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,130 Speaker 2: but you might not want to do that. Okay? 597 00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: So grandma, granddad, auntie, uncle, advice cannot be based on 598 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: what somebody has. The comments section always wants to make 599 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:52,020 Speaker 1: it about what people have. But wisdom and money can coexist, 600 00:29:52,060 --> 00:29:53,900 Speaker 1: but they're not always the one and the same. 601 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,220 Speaker 2: Right? Right. You see what I'm saying? 602 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: Some of the guys I looked up to in this 603 00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: business when I met them and I talked about the business, 604 00:30:01,940 --> 00:30:03,330 Speaker 3: they ain't no shit, bro. 605 00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:04,870 Speaker 2: I was shocked. 606 00:30:05,030 --> 00:30:08,190 Speaker 3: These are the biggest guys in the game because, you know, 607 00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:11,170 Speaker 3: I've been doing this shit myself, like independent. 608 00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:15,590 Speaker 2: My own videos, my own promos, my own radios, my own. 609 00:30:15,930 --> 00:30:18,350 Speaker 3: So when I sit down with the bosses of bosses 610 00:30:18,410 --> 00:30:20,070 Speaker 3: and the legends and I sit with them, I'm. 611 00:30:20,010 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: Like, Oh, these niggas got lucky. Well, a lot of times... 612 00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: They found an artist that just blew. 613 00:30:26,260 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: And they look like they know a lot, but they 614 00:30:29,860 --> 00:30:32,590 Speaker 3: found the artist that blew. 615 00:30:33,050 --> 00:30:34,530 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, it's that. 616 00:30:34,650 --> 00:30:36,210 Speaker 1: And a lot of times, you know, and this is 617 00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:38,690 Speaker 1: just something I learned in life, you may rise to 618 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:41,390 Speaker 1: the level of your goals, but you will fall to 619 00:30:41,410 --> 00:30:42,410 Speaker 1: the level of your system. 620 00:30:43,170 --> 00:30:45,250 Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? 621 00:30:45,690 --> 00:30:49,340 Speaker 1: So your goals, you'll get to your goal. You can 622 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: get there, but your system is going to determine whether 623 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: you're able to state it. 624 00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:56,850 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying? So how are you handling things? 625 00:30:57,150 --> 00:30:59,010 Speaker 1: So a lot of times what you have is you 626 00:30:59,030 --> 00:31:02,350 Speaker 1: might have somebody who, they may not be the brightest person, 627 00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:06,270 Speaker 1: Them sharpest knife in the drawer, but they got a solid, 628 00:31:06,290 --> 00:31:10,230 Speaker 1: consistent system that allows them to succeed even though they're 629 00:31:10,260 --> 00:31:11,020 Speaker 1: not that bright. 630 00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:11,500 Speaker 3: Yes. 631 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,140 Speaker 2: Right? 632 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,460 Speaker 1: So you might have the one, two, three tactics that 633 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,980 Speaker 1: are really brilliant, but they got a system that just works. 634 00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: Yes. You feel me? Yes. 635 00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: It's like carrying buckets versus having a pipeline. Yeah. 636 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,140 Speaker 2: Right? One dude, he got all the muscles. He's carrying buckets. 637 00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:30,780 Speaker 2: He's incredible. But you're like, yo, this dude over here 638 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: is weak, frail, but he got a pipeline of water. Right? 639 00:31:35,140 --> 00:31:36,740 Speaker 2: You feel me? So you got to look at the 640 00:31:36,860 --> 00:31:39,620 Speaker 2: system of your life. How are you eating? What are 641 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:40,060 Speaker 2: you doing? 642 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: How are you handling your business? Are you saving your money? 643 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: Are you paying what's supposed to be paid? Are you 644 00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:46,310 Speaker 1: taking care of the things, the people you're supposed to 645 00:31:46,330 --> 00:31:48,530 Speaker 1: take care of? Are you taking care of yourself? Are 646 00:31:48,570 --> 00:31:51,630 Speaker 1: you saying no when you should say no? Are you 647 00:31:51,670 --> 00:31:53,370 Speaker 1: afraid to say no? Are you afraid to say no 648 00:31:53,390 --> 00:31:56,350 Speaker 1: to yourself? Well, one thing I always talk to you 649 00:31:56,390 --> 00:32:00,630 Speaker 1: about is other than the big mind of all big 650 00:32:00,690 --> 00:32:03,940 Speaker 1: mind that you got here with you, I've never seen 651 00:32:03,980 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: you with a crew, entourage, a bunch of friends. When 652 00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:13,180 Speaker 1: did you decide that you didn't want to be the 653 00:32:13,220 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: guy with the entourage, the friends, the this, the that? 654 00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: Or did anything ever happen to you that made you 655 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,380 Speaker 2: feel like it? Of course. 656 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I was taking dudes on tour, you know, 657 00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: try to send them home. They know other dudes from 658 00:32:29,060 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: the neighborhood who are on the tour. Then they go 659 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,710 Speaker 1: out in the crowd and hurt people. end up in jail. 660 00:32:36,770 --> 00:32:38,110 Speaker 1: Was it a conscious thing. 661 00:32:37,910 --> 00:32:40,630 Speaker 3: For you to be like, yo, I'm going to navigate 662 00:32:40,670 --> 00:32:42,550 Speaker 3: this shit on my own? 663 00:32:43,530 --> 00:32:46,610 Speaker 2: Yes. You ever seen walking with a panther? 664 00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:49,190 Speaker 3: You ever see the jaguar in the goddamn jungle jump out, 665 00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 3: jump on one of them caimans? 666 00:32:50,940 --> 00:32:52,660 Speaker 1: Like, he just be up in the bushes and then 667 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,620 Speaker 1: you look, sometimes you just got to jump on a 668 00:32:55,660 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: caiman's neck yourself. Yes, because ultimately you're responsible. 669 00:33:02,140 --> 00:33:02,740 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 670 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,300 Speaker 1: And I, I don't want, I can't have, respectfully, I 671 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: can't have morons around me. And I'm not calling everybody out, 672 00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:12,780 Speaker 1: but hung out with a moron, but you got to 673 00:33:12,820 --> 00:33:13,780 Speaker 1: be disciplined, man. 674 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,100 Speaker 2: Like, if you're going to be around me, you have 675 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: to have discipline. You know what I'm saying? 676 00:33:19,300 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: Like, I don't have people around me that don't have discipline. 677 00:33:22,570 --> 00:33:26,630 Speaker 1: I don't do the, the, the, the, the lackadaisical, yo, whatever, and. 678 00:33:26,610 --> 00:33:29,310 Speaker 2: Talking to people crazy. I don't do that. You'll be gone. 679 00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:33,590 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. Because like I always say, there's a difference. 680 00:33:33,390 --> 00:33:36,980 Speaker 2: Between nice and kind. I'm a kind person, but I'm 681 00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:39,340 Speaker 2: not a nice guy. You know what I mean? Break 682 00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 2: that down. 683 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: So nice is wanting to be liked, not wanting to 684 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,820 Speaker 1: offend people. Being, you know, oh, this is okay. 685 00:33:46,860 --> 00:33:49,350 Speaker 2: You stepped on my white shoe with your oily boot. 686 00:33:49,420 --> 00:33:50,930 Speaker 2: That's all right. That's nice. 687 00:33:51,390 --> 00:33:54,030 Speaker 1: Kind is don't step on my goddamn shoe no more. 688 00:33:54,210 --> 00:33:55,930 Speaker 1: We good, but don't do that no more. 689 00:33:56,570 --> 00:33:56,810 Speaker 3: Right? 690 00:33:56,830 --> 00:34:00,370 Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't take your head off. I'm kind about it, 691 00:34:00,380 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: but don't do that. And you need people around you 692 00:34:02,980 --> 00:34:07,420 Speaker 1: who are like that to me. So I keep guys 693 00:34:07,460 --> 00:34:11,140 Speaker 1: around me that have that kind of mentality. We're not 694 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: going to be rolled over, but we're not looking to 695 00:34:13,700 --> 00:34:16,740 Speaker 1: roll over nobody. And I don't walk around my chest 696 00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:19,089 Speaker 1: poked out because that's how you get in trouble, right? 697 00:34:19,969 --> 00:34:23,490 Speaker 1: We learned a long time ago in the street, manners. 698 00:34:25,489 --> 00:34:26,989 Speaker 1: Manners go a long way. 699 00:34:27,739 --> 00:34:32,660 Speaker 2: A whole long way. Manners. Pardon me. Excuse me. My bad. 700 00:34:32,780 --> 00:34:36,300 Speaker 2: Thank you. I seen that work. Yo. I seen that 701 00:34:36,340 --> 00:34:37,850 Speaker 2: work a million times. 702 00:34:37,870 --> 00:34:41,090 Speaker 1: Yo, manners is... So, that's how I like to move. Plus, 703 00:34:41,650 --> 00:34:42,649 Speaker 1: I like to think, man. 704 00:34:43,610 --> 00:34:44,209 Speaker 2: I got to think. 705 00:34:45,210 --> 00:34:47,230 Speaker 1: I don't want a bunch of people around me like 706 00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:49,930 Speaker 1: I can't think they talking about some stupid stuff that 707 00:34:49,969 --> 00:34:51,770 Speaker 1: is not making any sense to me. 708 00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:57,820 Speaker 2: I want to think. Now, if you can have a conversation... Okay. 709 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,009 Speaker 2: That works. But if it's foolish, fooling, I can't. I 710 00:35:03,690 --> 00:35:06,529 Speaker 2: ain't got no time for that, man. You know what 711 00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:08,029 Speaker 2: I mean? I got dreams to make come true. I 712 00:35:08,050 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: got dreams I need to make come true. You know 713 00:35:09,860 --> 00:35:11,780 Speaker 2: what I mean? You made a lot of dreams come true, brother. 714 00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:17,620 Speaker 3: Like, your shit, your life has been fucking beyond a blessing, 715 00:35:17,890 --> 00:35:21,290 Speaker 3: a testament, You know, you're like, I don't want to 716 00:35:21,350 --> 00:35:23,690 Speaker 3: jinx you, but I always tell everybody, like, you're like 717 00:35:23,770 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 3: the perfect representative of hip-hop music. 718 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 2: That's a fact. Like, the most perfect. Like, to me. Well, look, 719 00:35:32,860 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: I'm flawed, and God is great, and I give God 720 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,930 Speaker 2: the glory. You know what I'm saying? And he's inside 721 00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:38,670 Speaker 2: of me, and I give the God in me glory 722 00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:39,089 Speaker 2: as well. 723 00:35:39,650 --> 00:35:42,589 Speaker 1: That being said, I'm flawed like everybody else, but the 724 00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:45,029 Speaker 1: thing is, I just don't go out of my way 725 00:35:45,050 --> 00:35:46,870 Speaker 1: to have problems. Mm-hmm. 726 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? 727 00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:50,739 Speaker 1: Like, you know, you got to know when to, you know, 728 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,969 Speaker 1: my man, the old hustler used to tell me, yo, pop. 729 00:35:52,810 --> 00:35:54,910 Speaker 2: One, chill one, man. 730 00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:56,690 Speaker 3: You got to know when to pop one, when to. 731 00:35:56,590 --> 00:35:58,810 Speaker 2: Chill one, man. You know, you got to know, you know, 732 00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:01,089 Speaker 2: you got to know you, man. You got to know 733 00:36:01,110 --> 00:36:02,870 Speaker 2: when to fall back a little bit. Like, you know, 734 00:36:02,890 --> 00:36:03,370 Speaker 2: fall back. 735 00:36:03,570 --> 00:36:05,330 Speaker 1: You know when to fall back when you're getting a 736 00:36:05,969 --> 00:36:07,370 Speaker 1: little out of control and all that. 737 00:36:07,390 --> 00:36:09,169 Speaker 3: You got to fall back. You know me, I like 738 00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:11,750 Speaker 3: the third rail, man. I always touch the third rail. 739 00:36:11,790 --> 00:36:12,190 Speaker 2: Yeah. 740 00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 3: I like to surf on that bitch. 741 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 2: You smell that? That's Joe. He likes the third rail. 742 00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 2: That's Joe. He likes the third rail. You smell that? Yeah. 743 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,710 Speaker 2: I'm doing push-ups on it. Diamonds, like diamonds. Yeah, the top, 744 00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:31,810 Speaker 2: the wide, then the diamond. 745 00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:38,110 Speaker 4: JoeAndJayTheShow.com. We got new merch fresh off the presses. Go 746 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:44,939 Speaker 4: get it. Big out of big. JoeAndJayTheShow.com. You can get these. 747 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 4: A little cold for a t-shirt with a hoodie. 748 00:36:48,219 --> 00:36:52,419 Speaker 3: It's my favorite right there. I need an extra large. JoeAndJayTheShow.com. 749 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:59,150 Speaker 3: Go there and get it. We were signed to the 750 00:36:59,210 --> 00:37:03,390 Speaker 3: same label. Not to tell their business in general, but 751 00:37:04,580 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: I used to hang out with Bone Thugs-N-Harmony all the time. 752 00:37:08,860 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 3: I might have sold two records. I ain't had no 753 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,820 Speaker 3: real money. You know, these guys were selling 30 million records. 754 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,180 Speaker 3: And I'd be in the hotel room with them, and 755 00:37:19,219 --> 00:37:25,930 Speaker 3: they're discussing, like, business and what's happening to them and shit. 756 00:37:27,489 --> 00:37:31,810 Speaker 3: And I really, really would stay quiet because I knew 757 00:37:31,850 --> 00:37:33,609 Speaker 3: I didn't have as much money as them. 758 00:37:34,050 --> 00:37:35,940 Speaker 2: I wasn't as big as them, but I knew they 759 00:37:35,980 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 2: were getting jerked. Yeah. 760 00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 3: And I knew how to explain to them, yo, look, 761 00:37:41,219 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 3: these dudes are jerking you. 762 00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:44,569 Speaker 2: This is going on, this going on. 763 00:37:44,610 --> 00:37:47,850 Speaker 3: But me being the brokest dude in the room, I 764 00:37:47,890 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 3: was actually afraid To bring it to their attention and 765 00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 3: be like, yo. 766 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,899 Speaker 1: See, and I'm glad you said that because that goes 767 00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: back to what I was saying earlier. See, man, let 768 00:37:57,739 --> 00:38:01,620 Speaker 1: me tell you something, man. No matter how successful you are, 769 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,940 Speaker 1: you had to start somewhere, right? So if you met 770 00:38:05,980 --> 00:38:08,140 Speaker 1: me when I was 16 and I ain't had no paper, 771 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,830 Speaker 1: who was I? Because I had it in me to 772 00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:14,110 Speaker 1: be what I am right now. 773 00:38:14,590 --> 00:38:14,750 Speaker 2: So. 774 00:38:16,020 --> 00:38:20,050 Speaker 1: You know, like, you can't base it on dollars. There's dudes, 775 00:38:20,070 --> 00:38:22,469 Speaker 1: there's kids watching right now, there's guys watching right now. 776 00:38:22,670 --> 00:38:24,070 Speaker 2: They got potential. They're smart. 777 00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: They got to really believe in themselves. Like, you got 778 00:38:26,660 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: to believe. Like, you really are that dude. Like, it 779 00:38:28,820 --> 00:38:29,620 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. 780 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,330 Speaker 2: Be delusional. it ain't a delusion. It's reality. 781 00:38:34,170 --> 00:38:35,890 Speaker 1: I know what you're saying and I get it and 782 00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:37,940 Speaker 1: I respect that and I understand people when they say 783 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,779 Speaker 1: that delusion. Listen, man, just believe in yourself. Believe in yourself, man. 784 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 1: God damn it and make it a reality. Like, we 785 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,430 Speaker 1: ain't delusional. Yo, make it a reality. Yo, we ain't 786 00:38:47,469 --> 00:38:49,930 Speaker 1: delusional about nothing. We want to win. 787 00:38:50,690 --> 00:38:53,250 Speaker 2: Like, when I was 16, it wasn't like, I'd be standing. 788 00:38:52,969 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: On the block You know, because, you know, everybody out 789 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 1: there and dudes is like, yo, this one rap, that 790 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,770 Speaker 1: one rap. And I'm like, yo, but standing out here 791 00:39:00,790 --> 00:39:03,430 Speaker 1: talking about rap, don't do nothing. Folder, you got your 792 00:39:03,450 --> 00:39:07,250 Speaker 1: hands folding on the corner. That was real advice. But 793 00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:08,130 Speaker 1: I didn't have no money. 794 00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:10,470 Speaker 2: No, it happened. It happened to me. You know, ain't 795 00:39:10,510 --> 00:39:13,380 Speaker 2: nothing happening right there. Just saying. This is what I'm saying. 796 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:14,660 Speaker 2: So what did I say? I said, yo, we got 797 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 2: to be like helicopters. What are you talking about? 798 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,460 Speaker 1: We got to get our minds up out of here 799 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,500 Speaker 1: to see what else is going on in the world 800 00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:23,330 Speaker 1: and just kind of rise up above this thing. I 801 00:39:23,330 --> 00:39:26,330 Speaker 1: remember when I was like, I don't know, maybe 14 802 00:39:26,330 --> 00:39:28,629 Speaker 1: or something. And, I, you know, we play, you know, 803 00:39:28,690 --> 00:39:29,210 Speaker 1: play hooky. 804 00:39:29,230 --> 00:39:30,250 Speaker 2: We cut school. We didn't go. 805 00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:33,189 Speaker 1: And I'm in my man's garage and they were sitting 806 00:39:33,230 --> 00:39:36,380 Speaker 1: all in a circle and everybody was smoking weed and 807 00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: they was all, and I wasn't, I stood up in 808 00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: the corner and I was just standing up in the 809 00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:44,710 Speaker 1: corner and I just watched them. And I watched everybody. 810 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:46,589 Speaker 1: And I'm not, this is not a problem. I'm not 811 00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:48,629 Speaker 1: saying people shouldn't smoke. I'm not doing any of that. 812 00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:51,700 Speaker 1: I'm talking about what I saw. I'm not judging, right? 813 00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: And I was in the corner and I watched as 814 00:39:54,140 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: they transformed. It's not the weed, but it's what it 815 00:39:56,980 --> 00:39:57,980 Speaker 1: brought out of them. 816 00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:01,259 Speaker 2: You feel me? Because everybody's different. And I watched them transform. 817 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,069 Speaker 1: And I remember saying to myself, there's got to be 818 00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:08,489 Speaker 1: more to life than sitting in this garage smoking weed. 819 00:40:09,330 --> 00:40:10,750 Speaker 2: There's no way that this is it. 820 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: 821 00:40:13,460 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 1: 822 00:40:17,260 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: 823 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: 824 00:40:21,940 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: 825 00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:27,819 Speaker 1: 826 00:40:27,890 --> 00:40:30,450 Speaker 1: 827 00:40:30,469 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 1: There's more to your life. And 828 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,030 Speaker 1: dreams don't have deadlines, right? So, like, guys like Cornelius Vanderbilt, 829 00:40:40,570 --> 00:40:43,930 Speaker 1: you know, he moved from steamships to railways at 80-something 830 00:40:43,969 --> 00:40:48,410 Speaker 1: years old. You know, Colonel Sanders, KFC at 60-something. 831 00:40:48,690 --> 00:40:48,970 Speaker 2: Yo. 832 00:40:49,070 --> 00:40:51,690 Speaker 3: He was 60-something when he made Kentucky Fried Chicken? 833 00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:51,890 Speaker 1: Yes. 834 00:40:52,670 --> 00:40:53,670 Speaker 2: Yes, you can do so. 835 00:40:53,710 --> 00:40:55,930 Speaker 3: Shout out to the chef last night. Yo, chef made 836 00:40:55,950 --> 00:40:58,900 Speaker 3: some fucking fried chicken in the crib. Yo, I got 837 00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 3: to tell you. I'm so hungry right now. No, you 838 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 3: don't even understand. 839 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 2: He got this macaroni salad. I want some chicharrones de 840 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: pollo right now. Yeah, that boy lit that shit up 841 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,219 Speaker 2: last night. I need it, baby. That boy did some 842 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,370 Speaker 2: fried chicken. I said, God damn, chef. This shit on fire. 843 00:41:17,570 --> 00:41:21,299 Speaker 2: Ain't make you dingo. Nah, that's a fried nigga chicken wing, man. 844 00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:26,660 Speaker 3: Tell us about NCIS New York. 845 00:41:27,230 --> 00:41:29,049 Speaker 2: So NCIS New York is fun because- Oh shit, you 846 00:41:29,070 --> 00:41:29,850 Speaker 2: get to work home. 847 00:41:30,110 --> 00:41:30,350 Speaker 1: Huh? 848 00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:31,049 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 849 00:41:31,070 --> 00:41:34,930 Speaker 1: Because you're always somewhere else. Yeah, I did LA for 850 00:41:34,930 --> 00:41:39,270 Speaker 1: 14 seasons. So we did, yeah, yeah. 851 00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:40,230 Speaker 2: So here we are. 852 00:41:40,570 --> 00:41:43,420 Speaker 1: And New York is a whole different beast. It's a 853 00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:44,419 Speaker 1: grittier show. 854 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:44,900 Speaker 2: It's different. 855 00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 1: It's more cinematic. We shooting, you know, stages in Brooklyn. 856 00:41:48,780 --> 00:41:52,540 Speaker 1: We shoot all over New York. And it's, I mean, 857 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,899 Speaker 1: it's going to be a wild show. 858 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 2: You know, myself, Scott Conn, Jennifer Beal. Jennifer Beal, she's 859 00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 2: from Fame. What a feeling. Oh, wow. She's in that. 860 00:42:02,260 --> 00:42:06,130 Speaker 1: A whole lot of other great actors. And it's, I 861 00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:08,110 Speaker 1: just think it's a spectacular show. It's going to be 862 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:12,490 Speaker 1: on CBS Paramount. CBS, it premieres October 6th. 863 00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:13,370 Speaker 2: Yes, sir. 864 00:42:13,469 --> 00:42:16,670 Speaker 1: And the characters kind of, he's back home, but he's a, 865 00:42:16,770 --> 00:42:19,270 Speaker 1: he's a little bit of a stranger in his own town. 866 00:42:19,330 --> 00:42:24,259 Speaker 2: He's been gone a long time. Things have changed. Things 867 00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 2: have changed. 868 00:42:25,660 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of fun, a lot of fun. 869 00:42:30,260 --> 00:42:32,310 Speaker 1: So people got to definitely check it out, man. And, um, 870 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,940 Speaker 1: You know, and you know, also, I don't know whenever 871 00:42:35,980 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: this drops, but we got the festival coming up. Rock 872 00:42:38,460 --> 00:42:39,660 Speaker 1: the Bells Festival is coming up. 873 00:42:39,820 --> 00:42:40,770 Speaker 2: I never get hired. 874 00:42:41,090 --> 00:42:43,800 Speaker 3: I never get hired. You get this guy all the time. See, 875 00:42:44,050 --> 00:42:47,630 Speaker 3: I said, appreciate that. My man, Walt. 876 00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:50,090 Speaker 2: Yo, Walt. I'm on you. 877 00:42:50,170 --> 00:42:51,930 Speaker 3: They don't want me in Rock the Bells. 878 00:42:51,989 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: Yes, they do. They want him. Yes, they do. They 879 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 2: want him. 880 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,700 Speaker 2: . 881 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,340 Speaker 3: . 882 00:43:00,140 --> 00:43:15,029 Speaker 2: Sumacoon Loud Joe. They're going to have you 883 00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:17,009 Speaker 2: right there. They're going to have you over there. They're 884 00:43:17,050 --> 00:43:20,370 Speaker 2: going to have you over there. We're going to call you. Yo, BPC, walk. 885 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:24,750 Speaker 2: Call my man Joe up, man. Come on. Stop playing, man. 886 00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:27,469 Speaker 2: I got you. Rock the bells, walk. Keep calling me. 887 00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:31,110 Speaker 2: I love you. I love you, walk. Shout out Vermont. 888 00:43:31,469 --> 00:43:34,230 Speaker 3: I did a concert in Vermont last week and I 889 00:43:34,250 --> 00:43:36,710 Speaker 3: was so jealous of him because he was in the ATL. 890 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,380 Speaker 3: I even called him. I knew his shit. He was 891 00:43:39,390 --> 00:43:41,460 Speaker 3: with Bow Wow. I had a cookout at his crib 892 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,219 Speaker 3: the next day. 893 00:43:42,420 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 894 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 3: Me and Bow Wow. I always say, I go to Atlanta. 895 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 3: I've never been to a cookout all these years. 896 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:48,140 Speaker 1: Him. 897 00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:51,779 Speaker 2: Bow Wow. By two o'clock. He laid it. It was right. 898 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 2: Watch the game. 899 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. I called him. I'm like, yo, 900 00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:57,620 Speaker 3: what's up? What's the ACL like? Right? 901 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,900 Speaker 2: Because it was some New York week and shit. I 902 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,100 Speaker 2: really wanted... He was like, man, it rained under this. 903 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 3: I said, damn, Kiss. I was actually jealous. I wanted 904 00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:09,380 Speaker 3: to come tear that shit down out there. I see 905 00:44:09,420 --> 00:44:11,100 Speaker 3: you had a Woodstock type of show. 906 00:44:11,140 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 2: No, no. You know what's up. Yo, listen, this ain't that. 907 00:44:15,620 --> 00:44:21,050 Speaker 2: That ain't this. It's Crackin' Kiss. Make some noise for LL, baby. Yo! Yo! 908 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,729 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. LL serving them well.