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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Levity, levity donks, it is Friday. Ain't got

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Speaker 2: is Brian Campbell, the Big base guy. You know that

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Speaker 2: the BBC rocking down with me from CBS Sports Showtime

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Speaker 2: me on this fine Friday, February twelve, two thy and

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Speaker 2: twenty one is a man who's used up at least

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Speaker 2: two of his nine lives this weekend, in fact at

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Speaker 2: Backus Hospital in Norwich, Connecticut. We know he has two

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Speaker 2: weaknesses in life, big let Tina Booty and Gollstones. It's

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas of CBS Sports. Luke, how you feeling, bro

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Speaker 2: A lot of people want to know.

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Speaker 1: I'm fine, This finest fine can be. I have a

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Speaker 2: Let's never forget what you did Tuesday, gutting it out

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Speaker 2: for the showtime Bellatoor giant announcement. You know, bloody sock,

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Speaker 2: the flu game, you name it. Luke was there, so

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Speaker 2: a reminder, everybody check out our fantastic content from this

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Speaker 2: But Luke, great to hear that your back. It's an

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Speaker 2: It's ousman, It's Gilbert Burns this Saturday. So excited to

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Speaker 2: check that out, Luke. Little bits of business to get

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Speaker 1: The people excited? Just this, just this morning. It'll be

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Speaker 2: I don't think Usman can do that against Burns, but

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Speaker 2: And if Usman can get these takedowns, Luke, it's just

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Speaker 1: No, he definitely doesn't get the respect he deserves because

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Speaker 1: And you know, Gilbert Burns certainly has his work cut

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Speaker 2: Luke, if I to close here, if I was on

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Speaker 1: This is pretty simple, really, There's a lot of things

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Speaker 2: that out and Luke, I get the mentality and we

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00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 2: talk about this a lot of a fighter. You have

432
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 2: to be part con man, you have to be part

433
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: you know, motivational speaker for yourself. You've got to do

434
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 2: a lot of things to trick yourself into not believing

435
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 2: negative hype against you, not believing that a loss ruins you,

436
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 2: not believing your own fears, which, by the way, hit

437
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 2: every fighter right. I mean, you know, Rashad Evans has

438
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,080
Speaker 2: talked so many times about that last sort of hour

439
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,160
Speaker 2: before you walk to the cage. You want to throw up,

440
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: you want to quit, you want to run away. I mean,

441
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,880
Speaker 2: you're going in there to fight, So I get that,

442
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,280
Speaker 2: But Macy Barber is all about you know, that loss

443
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 2: only happened against Matafari because of the injury, and I

444
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 2: think there's you know, it's one thing to say that,

445
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 2: maybe that's just her public thing to say to keep

446
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 2: herself fired up and not really stress on that loss.

447
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 2: But I hope behind the scenes, her and her team

448
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 2: actually are going through that tape moment by moment, second

449
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,240
Speaker 2: by second, because she don't look good on the ground

450
00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 2: to what you're saying. Before the injury, she just didn't

451
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: look I don't know if that moment was too big,

452
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: because let's not forget she was twenty one at the time,

453
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 2: and because the women's flyweight division is so shallow, it's

454
00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 2: gotten a little deeper since then, by the way, in

455
00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,600
Speaker 2: the last year with Jess Androdge and others, you know,

456
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 2: sort of making their mark. But at that point, she

457
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 2: was gonna get Valentina Chifchenko next. If she won, I

458
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,920
Speaker 2: mean it was gonna happen, and Luke, she probably would

459
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 2: have got dominated and she did say, look, I would

460
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 2: have beat Chefchenko then, but I'm gonna be even in

461
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: a better spot to beat her now. And again I

462
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 2: love the confidence. I'm not here to tell Macy Barber,

463
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 2: you can't do this but I am here to tell her, Luke,

464
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 2: you gotta understand the growth period and mistakes and what

465
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,800
Speaker 2: you need to bounce back from. I'm hearing somebody almost

466
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 2: a little too cocky. Who's uh, you know, it's not

467
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: that she's disrespecting Alexa Grosso, but who's talking like this

468
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 2: is a formality. I'm gonna get through Grosso, then I'm

469
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,679
Speaker 2: gonna bet Joan Calderwood and then give me Chefchenko. And oh,

470
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm not afraid of her. I see

471
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: it holes Jennifer Mya exposed here like these are all things. Yeah,

472
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: fire yourself up in the mirror. But Luke, I went

473
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 2: back and watched the video I did with her, and

474
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, she missed it. She miss Does she know?

475
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: Did she see the tape of that?

476
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:04,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, you're Yeah. There's a thin line between the

477
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: right kind of pump yourself up and outright delusion. It's

478
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: not as clear cut as people might imagine it to be.

479
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 1: And I'm not here to say one is the other.

480
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: With her too, she could go there and beat the

481
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Speaker 1: brakes off Alexa Grasso. In fact, I think there's a

482
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: decent chance she might. Decent chance anyway, I have a

483
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: good chance, but a decent chance, in which case, you know,

484
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,119
Speaker 1: all of that bravado is frankly necessary to do the

485
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,199
Speaker 1: kinds of things that she wants to do. But it

486
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: can also get you if you're not, if you're really

487
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: not on the level, it'll get you into trouble because

488
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: you'll get far enough along and soil you reach a

489
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: buzzsaw and then you know you're gonna get turned into

490
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: whatever their metaphor it's supposed to be that I'm torturing

491
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: at this point, but you get the idea. You can

492
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 1: lead yourself into trouble like this, or you can lead

493
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: yourself into victory. And it's hard to know which is

494
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: which when you have the similar kind of feeling. There's

495
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: just no way to know until you face another person

496
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: who can let you know whether or not those feelings.

497
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: And the self assessment was correct. So this is a

498
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: big one, man, I agree with you. This is a

499
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: big one. This was somebody had a lot of hype

500
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: coming off the Contender series. They were doing great work.

501
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,919
Speaker 1: She remember she wanted a bunch of fights before she

502
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: got injured with Paige van Zant, so she knew how

503
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: to like manipulate the space a little bit to like,

504
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: you know, get as much maximum attention as possible. I

505
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 1: think she probably also liked her chances in that. So

506
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: she's smart, she's savvy, she's pretty self aware. But we're

507
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: gonna see if there's any limits of that against someone who,

508
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Speaker 1: you know, again, Alexa Grosso is a flawed competitor. She's

509
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: not perfect, but she does a lot of things very fundamentally,

510
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: and I wonder if those are gonna be a huge

511
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: problem for Barbara.

512
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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to Yeah, I'm with you on that.

513
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: I'm starting to really feel like Grosso's the wrong opponent

514
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 2: to not have the perfect mindset and realize maybe your

515
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,479
Speaker 2: own strengths and weaknesses. And again I'm judging Macy on

516
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: one interview, right, it could be completely overblown. And to

517
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: what you said, you know, there's the same hype, basically

518
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: the same reach. Barbara, she can bang Luke if she

519
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: can get in there and stop Grosso for all we know,

520
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 2: and then it's, you know, let's move on big things ahead.

521
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 2: But Grosso, with that boxing ability, with that toughness, Luke,

522
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: she moves well. I mean, that's somebody who could hang

523
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: around for three rounds and then it comes down to

524
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: usually one swing round who did the most work, you know,

525
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: and if it goes that distance, I'm really gonna like

526
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 2: Rosso's chances in this one. I mean, that's why you

527
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: match tough. We want to find out who Barber is.

528
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: But I will say this about Barbara. You know she's polarizing, Yes,

529
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: almost purposely, because she's so cocky and just puts it

530
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 2: out there. I respect that. I respect that she goes

531
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 2: out there it just talks a big game and believes

532
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: in herself. It makes her more fun to watch. You know,

533
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: a lot of us it's like catnip seeing somebody with

534
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 2: so much ridiculous confidence just throwing it out there. So

535
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: let's see if she can do it. Do you have

536
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: any belief, Luke, that she can break the John Jones record.

537
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 2: She told me she's still on pace to do it.

538
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 2: She would reach John Jones's age when he won the

539
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: UFC title at what twenty three I think she said

540
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 2: in February or March of next year, so she's got

541
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: nine ten months to do this. She said. Her plan

542
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 2: is win Saturday, be joint Calderwood, and then get Chefchenko

543
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 2: before that deadline. Luke, if you had to give a

544
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: percentage chance one to one hundred that she can become

545
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 2: the youngest UFC champion, knowing who's the boss at the

546
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: end of this video game? What is your percentage?

547
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: Low? Low? You know, and I don't mean it to

548
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: be insulting or disparaging. It's not what I'm saying it for.

549
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: It's just, buddy, that's a hill to climb. You know,

550
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: something's gonna have to go wrong with Chefchenka before they

551
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: get her. You know, she's gonna have to age or

552
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: make some kind of you know, like Chifchenko doesn't make

553
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: many errors. You know, does she do everything that she

554
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: needs to do to win? Well? I mean so far

555
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: the Nooness fight's notwithstanding, Yes, but like does she like

556
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: make a like how could she make that? Boneheaded? She

557
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't make errors, you know, and so she has to

558
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: fight someone that makes her make errors. I think Macy

559
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: Barber's talented and on her way and may in fact

560
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: end up being a weight class champion. But in that timeframe, no,

561
00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: I'm extremely scared.

562
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's fair enough. Luke, As we look

563
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 2: up and down this card, what has you the most

564
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: interested as a fan on this undercard?

565
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: I'm not. I mean, the undercard is kind of hibbitti hubidi.

566
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: It's not that money. Uh, Jim Miller, Bobby Green looks

567
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: like it's kind of fun. Also, the return of hudelfo

568
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: Vieira against Anthony Hernandez. Pretty excited about that. Uh. And

569
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: then Mirando Maverick against Jillian Robertson. Mirando Maverick's kind of

570
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: an intriguing character. I wanted to see more from her.

571
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm in on that, Luke. I am hella

572
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 2: down with this. Kelvin gasolom Ian Heinisch fight a featured

573
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: fight at middleweight. Uh, here's the deal, Luke, It's kind

574
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 2: of it's not win or go home, but it's win

575
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: or be or being also ran or be an average

576
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: guy for gasolm considering he's on a three fight losing skid,

577
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: lost four or five. But as we know, Luke, it's

578
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: all against elites. But yet he's always giving us the

579
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 2: flashes of brilliance followed by the hum performance. So I

580
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: like his chances a ton in this one. I think

581
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: the pressure sure of having to win and remind everybody

582
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 2: who he is. Gaslam's only twenty nine, He's only freaking

583
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 2: twenty nine, Luke, he's been so feast or famine, but

584
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: I think that pressure is going to lift him to

585
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: you know, maybe not being the exact guy who walked

586
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: in there against Israel, lot of Sonia and went to

587
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: Hell and back and nearly, you know, nearly finished. The

588
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: guy who's the champion now nearly had had big moments there.

589
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: I just think Highness isn't good enough to where he's

590
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: gonna make him stumble. I love Heinus's backstory, Jurassic back

591
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: The guy can wrestle. I cheer for him when he's

592
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: in there, Luke, but you're telling me Gaslam's gonna come

593
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: in with a purpose, that movement, the big left hand.

594
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: He can wrestle if he has to. I think this

595
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 2: is the bet for the card. Bet big on Gasoloam.

596
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna win, big Bro.

597
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: We gotta move this along if you want to get

598
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: done by twelve twenty.

599
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, I am the maestro on Fridays, I am.

600
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we're not gonna make it at this pace.

601
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: Just let you know, Luke, for.

602
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 2: Once, just relax, just take the fear off, Okay, just

603
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 2: just just be the analyst.

604
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: All right, okay, buddy, just let you know.

605
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 2: All right, let's just no sell it. Okay, that's great, Hey,

606
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: it was good. It was good talking to you, Luke

607
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: about that important middleweight.

608
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a fine middleweight fight. It's not that interesting,

609
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: but yes, I agree it. Gasolon would be in a

610
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: bad place if you lost it. I mean, there's just

611
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: no denying that.

612
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: So that's why that's why people go to your Twitter

613
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: account instead of the show, Luke, because they get the

614
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: better stuff first. Luke also bela Muhammed Diego Lima probably

615
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: gonna bank. So check that out. Hey, let's move the

616
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: show along, so Luke, Uh so I don't activate Luke's

617
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: gall All right, right, big news in the UFC, Luke,

618
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: that fight you wanted to see in March? Remember that fight?

619
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: What was it?

620
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: Uh Tony versus Habib?

621
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: No?

622
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: No, the other cursed fight Hamza Shimaya versus Leon Edwards

623
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: will not take place in just a little over a

624
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: month like we thought. Luke comsa has, according to the reports,

625
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: continued COVID symptoms and follow ups and things that are

626
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: bad that have to do with him contracting that Luke

627
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: separate from the Oh my god, this fight is off again.

628
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: Are you should we be worried here, doctor Fauci, Like,

629
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: what's going on with Hamza? This is a guy who's

630
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 2: ready to take over the sport.

631
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, so let's not exaggerate any potential

632
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: threat or seriousness for things that we don't have information about.

633
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: But it should not surprise anyone that you know. Again,

634
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: COVID is not the flu. It is a It is

635
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: the flu times you know, or elevated orders of magnitude

636
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: greater than what you know it to be. You know,

637
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: this is it's not a fucking game. And some people

638
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: have it, and as we know, nothing happens. Some people

639
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: get it and they die, and then some people live,

640
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: but then they live with lingering consequences. COVID long haulers

641
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: is what they call them. Now, what exactly is going

642
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: wrong with kamzat chamaiv? I do not know. Maybe it

643
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: was a case where he lost a bunch of weight

644
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: and he's okay, but he needs time to put it

645
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: back on. That could be a thing as well. I mean,

646
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: there's any number of things that could be not a

647
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: big deal long term, but enough of a short term

648
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: derailment that they could go forward with this plan. All

649
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: I know is it's yeah, it's not a joke, man,

650
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: It's not a joke at all. So you know, seeing

651
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: Cody Garbrant go on uh food Truck Diary is talking

652
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: about his vertigo that he would get for days at

653
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: a time that was COVID related, in blood clots and

654
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: everything else. He had a hard ass time. That's not

655
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: the norm, but that is a reality. So let's hope

656
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: that Kamza Chamaiev does not suffer too much longer. Let's

657
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: hope it's not that serious. But at this point, you know,

658
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: while I am thinking about kamzat Chamiev's health, if you're

659
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: Leon Edwards, you got to be asking yourself, Jesus christ man,

660
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: what do I got to do to get into the

661
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: octagon to actually compete against somebody else. We're now almost

662
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: a year BC from his day that was supposed to

663
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: be last March against Tyron Woodley for UFC London. We're

664
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: almost a year to that point, which by itself was

665
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: already delayed from a moment he should have had following

666
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: his winever Dosanjos. This dude has had the worst luck possible.

667
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: And well that's why Luke Key is looking to stay

668
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: on the card. Dana talked to Bretto Komodo and said,

669
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: Shaun Shelby's on it right now. They're trying to get

670
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: a replacement. Leon wants to stay on. His management told

671
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Ariel yesterday Luke that they are pitching out that the

672
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: replacement for Kamzat would be Jorge Mosvidal, Colby Covington, or

673
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: Nate Diaz. Luke, do you love any of those three

674
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: more than the others? Which is the most likely.

675
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: He's not going to get any of those three?

676
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: And you know it, we can't sub in Nate Diaz here.

677
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't Nate take that fight?

678
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: Nice?

679
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: I mean, on what planet would he take that fight?

680
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't take that fight?

681
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: Now I understand what he's doing. Hey, shoot your shot right,

682
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: closed mouth, don't get fed. Okay, fine, but you're not

683
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: gonna get any of those fights, and he's gonna end

684
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: up settling for someone who's probably much less of a challenge.

685
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: But at least he gets to stay active for crying

686
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: out loud, which is a small not.

687
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Gonna be wonder boy. He's hurt, so I don't know

688
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 2: what they're gonna do here, but this could be one

689
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 2: of those panic situations though, where you throw money. But

690
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: then again, it's a fight Night main event, and you know,

691
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: we'll see how it plays out. Speaking of Nate Luke,

692
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: he did a much publicized sit down with Ariel Hawane

693
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: for the first time since twenty nineteen and said a

694
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: lot of weird shit. Uh, Luke, can I tell you something?

695
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: You know? I love the Diazas. I think they've been

696
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: under marketed and utilized by the UFC. I know they're

697
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: difficult to deal with, but they are the people's champs,

698
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: they are the people. They're hilarious, They're all this stuff. Luke,

699
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: I think I'm losing the charm. I tried to watch

700
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: that interview. It was a lot of bungled bullshit. You know. No,

701
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: the lightweight division's dead. Nobody there has anything for me.

702
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 2: But I would fight Doe Bronx because he's a winner

703
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: like me, So I only fight winners. What the hell

704
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: are you talking about, Nate Luke? Did you hear this

705
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: thing at all? I feel like that thing that was

706
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: cool about him is now getting friggin annoying, Like, are

707
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: you gonna fight? If you're gonna fight, fight bro? If not,

708
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: what are we doing here? Like it's so painful, Like

709
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: the people that don't like your life chet, They're like, Luke,

710
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: spin out the analysis already, all right, hey Nate, just

711
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: say it, bro That one hour interview could have been

712
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: two minutes long.

713
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: Luke, are you saying I'm Nate Diaz on my live chats?

714
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. The people are. I'm just again,

715
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: I'm a messenger.

716
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: People aren't saying that. Dumbasses are saying that. Yeah, I mean,

717
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: what can we say about Nate Diaz.

718
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: Luke, He's blown as shit, not in a fun way.

719
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: The dude's just blown, bro.

720
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Like he's he's no longer fun for you.

721
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just like it's it's I don't know, you know,

722
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: like it's there's a lot of just delusional stuff coming

723
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: out of his mouth regarding the fights he may have

724
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: won or lost, you know what I mean. Like it's

725
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 2: just like a lot of this, like, really, what are

726
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: we doing here?

727
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that what you guys love? Is guy's

728
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: giving you bravado and saying like you love fake news?

729
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: People just saying you know, random shit and amplifying it.

730
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: Don't you love that?

731
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: It's just a lot of talk over a long period

732
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 2: of time with Nate and not much happening.

733
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: Isn't that boxing?

734
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: That is boxing?

735
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: Yes? It is? Okay, your first, your first and most

736
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: serious love. What does that manach? We have audio? Oh

737
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 1: show us the tweet NDA Soldier one p. Seventy come

738
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: get you some of the real.

739
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 2: We've seen that. But we have a response from Porrier.

740
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: A fight closer to my natural weight sounds like a

741
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: great idea.

742
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 2: Well look, some people that think that would be the risk,

743
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 2: that would be uh him talking about the Nate fight.

744
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: But looke, let's be realistic here. For everything that Nate

745
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: said to Ariel, he ain't getting the Dustin Poier fight. Why, Luke,

746
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: because all signs are pointing to Uncle Dana making Connor

747
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: Dustin three, but not for the title. Luke, this is

748
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 2: getting weird and interesting. Okay, let me set this the

749
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: stage here. Uh Nirmaco metof Habib did do a scrum

750
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: in rush with the media there. Here's what he said.

751
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say Poorier and McGregor disappointed me, but they

752
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: showed nothing supernatural. I fought with Poorier, nothing special. It's

753
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: the same with Connor. I believe now that Poorier deserves

754
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: to be a champion. That's my opinion, and blah blah blah.

755
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: He went on to say, Luke, what he said all along,

756
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: that he's not coming back to fight, right, But that

757
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 2: hasn't stopped Uncle Dana.

758
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: I bet it hasn't.

759
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: Who gave an interview with brett O Komodo and here's

760
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: the results. I saw some talk that Dustin should be

761
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: the champion, said Dana. Well, Dustin just got smoked by Habib.

762
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 2: Connor got smoked by Habib. Ge Chee got smoked. They're

763
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: gonna have to fight it out. The number one through

764
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: seven rank lightweights will fight this thing out. We'll find

765
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 2: out who the champ is. It's the best way nobody

766
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: can deny when Habib does step away, who the best

767
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: in the division, because they will all have fought each

768
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 2: other and Habib can say whatever he wants. Habib can

769
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: say whatever he wants. I believe if this thing plays

770
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: out and the right guy, however the fights happen, Habib

771
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 2: will fight him. I truly believe that. When you've got

772
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: two guys Dustin is ranked one in the world, and

773
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: Connor wants this trilogy so badly, you do it, uh Luke.

774
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: He was then questioned, isn't Habib telling you that he's retiring?

775
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Why are we stretching this out? And he said, Habib's

776
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: not meeting with me for no reason. He'd say, what's

777
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: the point? I love you, thank you, but we don't

778
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: need to meet. And he hasn't said that, has he?

779
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: End quote? So, luke uncle Dana who said Habib will

780
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: never hold up the lightweight division, Habib's not trying to

781
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 2: hold up the lightweight division, Dana. You are is now

782
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: saying Connor and Dustin are gonna fight a trilogy next

783
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: because Connor wants it so badly and because none of

784
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: these guys have proven they can beat Habib. Habib's retired. Dude,

785
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: Look what is.

786
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: Happening, dude. This is literal, I mean the fake news

787
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: this angle ever, I'm not even blaming you for it.

788
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: It's just I uh, dude, Dana's amazing. It's like, did

789
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: you guys not see during COVID when the government was like, no,

790
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: we're not going to sanction shows. Well, you know what,

791
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go around the government to get shows getting

792
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: you know done, and then eventually, you know, uh, Disney

793
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: came crushing down on him and they didn't do it

794
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: for at least three weeks, and then then they went

795
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: to back to the government. My point being is this

796
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: is a dude who just doesn't take no for an answer,

797
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: even when the answer is in fact no. So listen,

798
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 1: is it well? I will maintain the same posture, bc

799
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: same energy. They always say when this comes out of

800
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: Number Maydov's mouth that he's ready to come back. Okay,

801
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: I will believe it. I will believe numberger Madov when

802
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: he says, folks, I'm ready, let's do this. I'm all in.

803
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: Whether it's tomorrow or a year from now or whenever,

804
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: that may be fine. But if it's just Dana telling

805
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: me what Habib said or Dana telling us what he

806
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: thinks is still in play, fake news, don't care about it.

807
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: A guy who has officially lied on the record, not

808
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: interested in it whatsoever. So to me, this is just

809
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: playing fucking games with the division and Parier is your

810
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: champ and we're just not gonna crown, and which to

811
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: me is a travesty. But you know, I don't get

812
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: paid to make decisions.

813
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: It's like, it's crazy because you have to believe that

814
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: Dana's willing to just kind of risk and ruin everything

815
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: for that one hope that Habib comes back for one

816
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: big money fight. And that sounds stupid because this is

817
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: such a historically deep division. We kind of need to

818
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: sort things out, and it sounds stupid because it's one fight.

819
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 2: But Luke, if he's gonna make the Dustin Connor trilogy,

820
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: is this telling us that Dana still can't get over

821
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: the idea that I will not sleep until Connor Habib

822
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: tow is made because that's my lottery ticket to define

823
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: this decade, in this era. That's the biggest fight in history.

824
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: So I will do everything I can, which means not

825
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: crown Porier and give Connor one more chance to best

826
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: him in the rankings. So then I could go to Habib,

827
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: offer him the fifty million or whatever the life changing

828
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 2: sum is, and have that final time where hebe looks

829
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: him in the eyes and says, do you want me

830
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: to smash you? Because what the hell are we doing here? Bro,

831
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 2: poor Poorier. Luke, this is that fear that we had

832
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: ahead of the fight, ahead of the Connor rematch, when

833
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: we said Dana's kind of dropping the ball by not

834
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: making this a title belt, right, you could have Conor

835
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: McGregor as your champion on Saturday. Well, Connor lost, Luke,

836
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: And the one thing I'd said, is this because Dana

837
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: doesn't want Poorier as champion, doesn't think it's marketable enough

838
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: when he could have Habib or Connor. Is this what's happening, Luke.

839
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: No, it is because by the way you see Mike,

840
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: he's saying we got to move along here. It's not

841
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: me just imagining it. But to answer, I got.

842
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: The time, I got the timeline in my head, I'm

843
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: on it.

844
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm on all right, all right. But to answer the question,

845
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 1: to make it clear, I don't think it's necessarily that

846
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: The bigger issue is if Habib is done at the

847
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: same same time that McGregor is flagging, you're not just

848
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: missing out on one big payday, you're missing out on

849
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: potentially a future where this guy could be headlining fights

850
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: for years and you making money off that. So if

851
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: Connor is going to flag, getting one more out of

852
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: it with Habib is probably what they're trying to do here,

853
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: rather than just have a series of smaller ones. But

854
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: you know that it requires McGregor showing up which to win,

855
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: which he didn't, and it requires Habib being interested, which

856
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: he matter of factly is not.

857
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: Dude, if I'm team Dustin, Luke, I'm like, what the

858
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: frick is? What else?

859
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: So?

860
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: Seriously, what else do I have to do?

861
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: Bro?

862
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: Seriously? What am I doing here? What are we doing here?

863
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: Okay?

864
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: You think I need to rush to get to know?

865
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: I got this, Bro? Okay, I got Daniel. This is

866
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: my Luke, this is my show. I got this on Fridays,

867
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: all right, no Jay Fridays, Luke. We sat down with

868
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: Patricio pippol free Ady, the Great two Division belatour champion

869
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, among some fantastic interviews we were able to

870
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: procure through the showtime Belator relationship. Luke, I wanted to

871
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 2: throw to some sound of the best nuggets here from Patricio.

872
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: We never really got a chance to react to these.

873
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to the videotape. Your brother has this too.

874
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: You guys fight with a chip on your shoulder like

875
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 2: an anger. Somebody talks trash about you at the press conference,

876
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: like you look over with anger. Uh do you feel

877
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 2: like that fuels you? Or I always we want you

878
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: to kill someone. They're a sauce. They know we are violent,

879
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: but they they still coming forward, So let's kill Uh.

880
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about you and your great career and

881
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: you got a great fight coming up. But one of

882
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: your old foes, Michael Chandler, just had a big moment

883
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: with the UFC. Do you give him a tip of

884
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: the cap or do you say I knocked you out?

885
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: Brother?

886
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: Oh, Michael Shannon in that fucking bitch.

887
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: My one say that, my.

888
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: Luke. You have to love the bravado, the savagery, the

889
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: hilariousness of him, and we definitely reacted to that when

890
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: we did our room service diaries that hopefully people have

891
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: checked out. I wanted to just talk about the actual

892
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: fight implications here. The big thing he dropped later in

893
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: the interview was that he thinks he can make one

894
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: thirty five. He walks around at one sixty five. He

895
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: thinks going down to bantamway can happen and he could

896
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: be Luke the first Bellator three division champion. If so,

897
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: are you a believer that this is smart that he

898
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: could do this? There's a guy wearing that belt, want Archiletta,

899
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: who he beat a year and a half ago. Do

900
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: you like this move for him?

901
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, If he can make the weight

902
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: not merely safely, but competitively where he can still be

903
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: the patricio. You know him to be more or less

904
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: at one forty five or one fifty five, then yes,

905
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: I am in favor of I said this yesterday in

906
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: my live chat. You're probably going to see someone become

907
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: a triple champ in our time in a major organization,

908
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: but it will probably be someone BCS. I'm sure you

909
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: would agree with this. Somewhere where the weight classes are

910
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: ten pounds apart. You know, if you're trying to go

911
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: from one seventy to one eighty five to two zero five,

912
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: has so much weight, you know, between the guys, I

913
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: don't know if you could do that. But if it's

914
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: just one twenty five one thirty five to one forty five,

915
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: you know, or one thirty five to one fifty five,

916
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: and you're sort of in a tweener space, that gets

917
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: kind of interesting. So I would say, if he can

918
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: make it, if he can make it and he can

919
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: fight like normal or normal ish, he should do it.

920
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: He should become the first one to get three. He's

921
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: already been something pretty special for Bella tour. That would

922
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: even even as much as he's done BC that would

923
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: take it to another level.

924
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: We had a great joke about his you know, training

925
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: partner and friend Henry Sejudo saying, no, we are friends,

926
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 2: but he knows I'm the best. He knows I would

927
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: beat him too. So look, let's talk quier quick about

928
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 2: pound for pound. Most people's lists are dominated by the UFC.

929
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: You know, Dimitris Johnson may appear on there, but but

930
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: no one else, you know, maybe Roy McDonald there was

931
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: for a minute, but no one else really, Okay, where

932
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: does Pipple actually belong right now? And we asked him,

933
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: by the way, and he said, because GSP and Habib

934
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: is retired, he is the last man standing. He's the

935
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: best of the world. Where realistically, where should he be

936
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: in the top ten right now? And what would a

937
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: third title in a third way class do for him,

938
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: like legitimately being on the same level as John Jones

939
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: to be Batasania.

940
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if you can get a third title, that

941
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: would wherever he is, it would bump him up. So

942
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: currently your top five is Kamaru Stepe Israel Outasania and

943
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: then John Jones seven is part parade all the way

944
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: Figuredo and Yon. I mean, he's definitely ahead of I

945
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: would say, so, he's certainly top six, top seven. You

946
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: could probably put him in your top five. And if

947
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: he wins three titles, you know he's top three or

948
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: even more. At that point, you know that it would

949
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: just be. And the reason is I could rank him higher,

950
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: but I think there's still some proving that has to

951
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: get done to really let us know the full depth

952
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: of his abilities. But he's a bare minimum number seven,

953
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: bare minimum, I'll put it there.

954
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: And he did double down and said his brother Patricky

955
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: is more deserving than anyone for a lightweight title shot.

956
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 2: So he said he would give up the belt to

957
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 2: make it go vacant, vacant, excuse me to let his brother,

958
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: the older Pitple vibe for that, Luke, that could be

959
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: an interesting scenario, especially if Patricky then loses and you

960
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 2: got Pitpull coming back to avenge the family. They do

961
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: a good job at avenging losses. As he said that

962
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: that knockout of Chandler was for his big bro, who,

963
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: let's not forget, Luke got sent to hell while he's

964
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: wearing that porn mustache against against Chandler. You remember that, Patricky?

965
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: Yes, yes I do.

966
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, Sorry, Luke, I know you're so worried about the

967
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: damn clock. All right, let's keep the discussion going, Luke.

968
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: Big news out of Star Wars, the Mandalorian Gina Carrado,

969
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 2: former female MMA pioneer. Right, Luke, she got hot fired

970
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: from the show, and it's streaming. It's all extending back

971
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: to the tweet from a few days ago, or sorry,

972
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: the Instagram live you know meme that she put up,

973
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: which was essentially suggesting that being a conservative in twenty

974
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: twenty one is somehow similar to being a Jew during

975
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: the Holocaust. So, Luke, that was obviously met with horrific reactions.

976
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: And then we find out that Disney has had issues

977
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: with her tweeting for a few months and was ready

978
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: to launch a spinoff show with her as the star,

979
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: but decided not to. Luke, now they've cut ties altogether.

980
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: I'm not here to get your take on how ill

981
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: advised in a bad comparison it was. This is horrible.

982
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, but do you think she should

983
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: have been fired? Is what any public figure is up

984
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: against in twenty twenty one, because from her side, from

985
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: the far right, it's a violation of free speech. It's

986
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: a lot of different things. Look it was an abhorrent meme.

987
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, Okay, should you lose

988
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: it all for that, Luke?

989
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: I have mixed feelings about it. Have mixed feelings. On

990
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: the one hand, can we just obviously say that Gina

991
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: Carano's understanding of politics is about as as bad as

992
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: vacuous and empty as a person could be and be

993
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: an adult human. It's like, the lowest of the low

994
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: is the level at which she treads in political knowledge.

995
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: It is it is astonishing to witness that. So it's like,

996
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: how are you going to get I mean, whether or

997
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: not you should have been fired as one question, but

998
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: if you're gonna get fired, it was like she took

999
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: like principled, scholarly stances. She just reheated fuck boy memes

1000
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: and then put him back out there and then had

1001
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: to take the l It's like, dude, you lost your

1002
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: career over this shit. Like wow, way to go to

1003
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: the mat for the lowest common denominator of nothing. But okay,

1004
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: if that's what you want to do. I mean, here's

1005
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: the problem basically that it comes down to. It's like,

1006
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: do we want to care this much? What the politics

1007
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: of our various celebrities and acclaimed actors and musicians are like,

1008
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: one thing we get out of MMA is that they

1009
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: can be basically think crazy shit, but if they can

1010
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: win in the cage, then who cares? And I sort

1011
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: of prefer that on one level. On the other level,

1012
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, well, also, this is a society at

1013
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 1: MMA and in combat sports generally that welcomes mobsters and

1014
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: frauds and you know, Charlotte and every other kind of

1015
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: malcontent into their world without really doing a whole lot

1016
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: of due diligence, and we're surrounded by it. Maybe there

1017
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: should be a few more screens put in place. I

1018
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: think the thing that's really interesting to me about the

1019
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: whole thing is that, like, you know, does this make

1020
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: the Mandalorian better? Probably not, So there's a question about

1021
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: what you want to do there. The question that I

1022
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: think is really central BC is is what she and

1023
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: by the way, I might really offend it. Like people

1024
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: said that her thing was anti semitic, the comparison to

1025
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: Nazi Germany, Well it was a stupid comparison, but it

1026
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: wasn't anti Semitic. She did not have hatred toward the

1027
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: Jews in there as built in she was fumbling in

1028
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: the dark front appropriate metaphor or analogy, but that wasn't

1029
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: anti semitic. But the key is this, It's like, is

1030
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: what she shared, not just this time, but about anti

1031
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: mask rhetoric and the election being stolen and sympathy for

1032
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: QAnon ideas. Is that conservatism or is that something that's

1033
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: just far right outside of conservatism? And the reason why

1034
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: that question is important is because how you answer it

1035
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: gives you a pretty communication of whether Disney was in

1036
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: their right mind. If you go out there in any

1037
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: job and you get on Facebook or Twitter and you

1038
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: start as a white guy, I don't know, sharing N

1039
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: word jokes and how much you love racist organizations, dude,

1040
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: your employer's probably gonna have something to say about that.

1041
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna get fired. You're not gonna get a lot

1042
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: of sympathy. Clearly, there is a limit to what you

1043
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: can share. So the question you have to ask yourself

1044
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: is is are those views? Is that mainstream conservatism or

1045
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: is that fringe stuff being led from the far right.

1046
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: If it's the latter, I'm a lot less concerned about

1047
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: her losing her job. If it's the former, then yeah,

1048
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: that's a bit of a problem for losing her job.

1049
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: On the other hand, what does that tell you about

1050
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: the normalcy of far right ideologies at this moment in time. So, yeah,

1051
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: it's complicationd.

1052
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I don't want to live in a

1053
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 2: cancel culture where someone's bad take or even broken hurtfull

1054
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: opinion causes them to be like a criminal and lose everything.

1055
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to be there. But I don't think

1056
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 2: this is what actually happened, Luke. I think there was,

1057
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: you know, uneasiness with Disney from We're hearing beforehand, and

1058
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 2: this was sort of like the final straw, the reason

1059
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: that allowed them to just cut ties. And I think

1060
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: that is in play, Luke. Like if you started posting

1061
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: big you know, those big booty latinas that you posted

1062
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: my dms and I just know sell them. If you

1063
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: started posting that every single day on Twitter and Instagram, Luke,

1064
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: your employer might say, hey, Luke, not really the image

1065
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: that we'd like to put out for for CBS and Showtime. Right,

1066
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: And Luke, you would be understanding that if you did

1067
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: that free speech move a few more times, Right showed

1068
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: somebody just dancing with a thong on right and just

1069
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 2: shaking that thing you know by the third time, they may, oh, hey, Luke,

1070
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 2: you know you're gonna be gone. Bro, this is not

1071
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: the representation of the company we want. I look at

1072
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: this as more of that than any form of like,

1073
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 2: you know, is this against free speech? Well know, like

1074
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: when you when you are in these these roles and

1075
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 2: you're representing companies, there's language and contracts like this for

1076
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 2: a reason about how you represent them. So I don't

1077
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: think this was a one striking over. I think this

1078
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: was just they They're like, this is not the person

1079
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 2: we want, and that was the deal. And it was unfortunate, Luke,

1080
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: And it makes her look really bad, but she did it, bro,

1081
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: So uh, Luke, is it more likely that she ends

1082
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: up back in the Star Wars universe or back in

1083
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,479
Speaker 2: a fighting cage? One more time?

1084
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: Back in a fighting cage? This was an epically stupid move.

1085
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: And to your point, it's like, it wasn't like one

1086
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: tweet that got her fired. This was you know, they

1087
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: she was warned. I guarantee it. She knew she was

1088
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: up against it. And again it's like, dude, you're gonna

1089
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: lose a lifetime of Star Wars because you think this

1090
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: fucking election was rigged. Seriously, that's the st I'm meaning

1091
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: dead serious when I say this. That's one of the

1092
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: saddest things I've ever heard. Can you imagine winning the

1093
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: lottery and you throw it away because you think real

1094
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: money is in bubblegum wrappers and not actual dollar bills.

1095
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: That's me You could How fucking broken is your brain

1096
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: that you have to do that? It is, honestly, and

1097
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: I could not be more serious. That is that is

1098
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: a hidiable thing that she just did.

1099
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 2: Look December twenty twenty one, Corano versus Rowsy and the Octagon.

1100
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: How many pay per view buys.

1101
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: Two two mil? Two damn two mil? Foreshore two mil?

1102
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: That could make Rowsy a hero again? Right if she

1103
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: beats up the uh.

1104
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: I could make Krano a hero again. Honestly, people don't

1105
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: like It's not like Mma is mad at her. Mme

1106
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: is mad at Rowsy. They're not mad at Corano. You know,

1107
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: most of us all supporting her. So uh No. I

1108
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: think I think it could make route Ron to the

1109
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: hero again, depending on how things went and how she

1110
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: handled it. But it also to me is like Corono

1111
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: could get a shitload out of that.

1112
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, our final topic of the week is a

1113
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: little bit of interesting stuff going on in boxing with

1114
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 2: rising star and unified lightweight champion Tao Femo Lopez Junior.

1115
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 2: So here's the deal, Luke. He has agreed it's to

1116
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 2: uh defend his title at one of his titles in

1117
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 2: a mandatory against the fellow we talked about a few

1118
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 2: weeks ago unbeaten Australian George Camposo's junior, decent fighter. But

1119
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 2: this ain't a big deal. It's a mandatory, Luke. So

1120
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 2: here's what happened. All reports, and this is some good

1121
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: reporting from Mike Coppinger at the Athletic that when Tayo

1122
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 2: Fima Lopez was about to fight Lomachenko, they went into

1123
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 2: negotiation and added some things and changed his contract. What

1124
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: happened was there was language in there that if he

1125
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: beat Lomachenko, the minimum offer Top Rank could offer him

1126
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: for a fight would be raised from one hundred and

1127
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: five thousand to something like one point twenty five million, right, Luke,

1128
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 2: So this is a pretty damn big jump. He upset Lomachenko,

1129
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: He's a rising star now twenty three years old and

1130
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: all that. So Top Rank goes to offer him the

1131
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: money for this fight and they offer him the dead

1132
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 2: minimum of one point two to three million or whatever

1133
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 2: it was, and he and his team have turned it down.

1134
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 2: So here's what's gonna happen. This is what happens, Luke.

1135
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: When the promoter can't come to an agreeance with its

1136
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: own fighter or the other promoter to make a deal.

1137
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: They have a per spid. Right now, this purspit is

1138
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 2: set for February eighteenth, and each promoter network can put

1139
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: in a bid. It's a blind bid. You get one

1140
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: bid and the highest offer gets to promote and televise

1141
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 2: the card. This is fairly interesting for the long term

1142
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: health of Tao Femo and his relationships with both Top

1143
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: Rank and ESPN. If this gets allowed to go to

1144
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: the purse bid and then you could have Eddie Hearn

1145
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: in his own you could have Al Hayman in Showtime

1146
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 2: or Fox. You could have anyone blindly throwing in a

1147
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: bid and they get one of the biggest stars in

1148
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: boxing fresh off of the upset of Lomachenko in a fight.

1149
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be interesting because quotes from Bob Aerum

1150
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 2: in that athletic story where you know, fairly negative, fairly saying, look,

1151
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: we're not gonna overpay here, all right? You know this

1152
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 2: is the minimum, but the minimum is pretty damn big here.

1153
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: This is not an important or exciting fight. It's a

1154
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 2: mandatory to hear Bob say that, Luke. I get a

1155
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: little nervous from this factor. Bob built up Floyd Mayweather

1156
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 2: and then lost him over money. Bob built up Oscar

1157
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: and then lost him over money. Bob's about to lose

1158
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford over you know, their relationship going sour? Is

1159
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 2: this the right stance for Bob to take, knowing that

1160
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: there's no live gate, knowing that, yeah, this fight is

1161
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 2: not massive, But wouldn't you want this guy back on

1162
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: ESPN at all costs?

1163
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: Luke? Yeah, I sort of get both positions here. I

1164
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: understand Bobby and like, I'm not going to overpay for

1165
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: what it is. I understand that. But if you're Teofimo

1166
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: Lopez and you just beat Lomachenko and now you're entitled

1167
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: to these greater purses contractually, I understand hispos He's not

1168
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 1: going to go backwards either, and or's what he feels

1169
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: to be backwards anyway, And I understand this position totally.

1170
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: It's a great opportunity for another organization or I should

1171
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: say another network, maybe to get a fight with Lopez,

1172
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: which would not be great, but you get Lopez just

1173
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: the same. The thing that blows me away is the

1174
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: one you indicated. It's like, dude, Aram, it's not surprising

1175
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: to me that he took the position. It's the lack

1176
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: of grace that he took it with and the hardline

1177
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: stance that he took it with about a guy who

1178
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: you know, this is a guy who needs to get promoted.

1179
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,919
Speaker 1: Not that he is, but this is a great time

1180
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: to build on what you already have, and your first

1181
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: order of business is to maybe let him fight for

1182
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: a rival in certain ways, you know, or like a

1183
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: rival network or something. It's Bob's a strange one. He's

1184
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: a strange one.

1185
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: Well, his reaction was that, you know, if you're his

1186
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: own or your Showtime or Fox and you go to

1187
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: pay for this guy, well, I'm gonna bring in their

1188
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: viewers after they watch him beat Cambosos and then come

1189
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: back to my network. The real interesting position here, Luke,

1190
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 2: will be what happens between now and that per spit

1191
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: at February eighteenth. Will ESPN step in and look, if

1192
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: you're an ma faner to say, who cares about this

1193
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 2: boxing business bullshit? Unfortunately, this boxing business bullshit is the

1194
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 2: headline news and part of the game that we follow.

1195
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 2: And that's interesting, Luke, because ESPN did tell Bob don't

1196
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: put Lomachenka Lopez on pay per view. We'll throw in

1197
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: more money to make this a you know, giant event

1198
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 2: on ESPN regular. I wonder if ESPN will save it here, Luke.

1199
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: I suspect that they will. I don't think they want

1200
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: him to waltz out of there, but that eram is

1201
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: this willing to play hardball? I gotta tell you not again. Historically,

1202
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,280
Speaker 1: it all makes sense when you watch it in real time.

1203
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: It is a little bit jarring to see someone take

1204
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: such a nakedly hard line position on a moment where

1205
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: you would imagine that kind of feeling. It's not like

1206
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: this is Bud Crawford or some shit like you might

1207
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: be able to do something with this guy, you know,

1208
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: get him out there and make use of it however

1209
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: it may be. But I guess we'll.

1210
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: See, all right, We'll see if Bob Aarrama is dead

1211
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: wrong at the end of the day, Luke, speaking of

1212
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: dead wrong, this is your weekly summit, Weekly summit. Yeah,

1213
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: I guess the summit of all the l's you've been

1214
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: wanting us to take all week. Now we'll finally sit

1215
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 2: on them if it's deserved.

1216
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: Luke, My guess is if this is, if past this prologue,

1217
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: most of these will be not dead wrong. Let's see.

1218
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 2: Hey, look there's a live chat in our zoom that

1219
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: we do during the show too. Like if you're like, ABC,

1220
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: fix your cameras.

1221
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm having problems. We need to end.

1222
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: I have to shit so badly my ass is about

1223
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 2: to explode. Luke Thomas. All right, Luke, let's see it. Yeah, Okay, Luke.

1224
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm seriously, I'm seriously, I don't know how I'm

1225
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: gonna make it to the HQ hit. If we don't

1226
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: end early.

1227
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: This problem, then that would then that would explain your

1228
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: your rudeness before.

1229
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, dude, I'm having problems. Back here, here we go.

1230
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 2: The viewer rights In just wanted to point out that

1231
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 2: a few weeks back, both Luke and b C referred

1232
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 2: to Spike Carlisle, the UFC fighter who has recently cut

1233
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 2: as the Ginger Ninja on multiple occasions, giving zero credit

1234
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: to his much better nickname, the Alpha Ginger. Luke, do

1235
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 2: you have any remorse for this l here?

1236
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah? There, but there is a ginger ninja? Who is

1237
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: that like that? That's we didn't make that nickname up.

1238
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: We might we may have missed sake.

1239
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: It's a beer I drink, Luke. It's a beer I drink.

1240
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: It's made in Connecticut.

1241
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, all right, we got that one wrong.

1242
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 2: That's fine, Okay, I'll take the l there. All right,

1243
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: not a huge one, but still, writes this viewer. At

1244
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: one hour, twelve minutes and fifty seconds on Monday, January

1245
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: seconds episode, Luke says that Overim has fought for Doom

1246
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: two times and beat him in both occasions. Actually, Luke,

1247
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 2: they fought three times. Was in Pride in two thousand

1248
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: and six, ver Doom one and Oveream got the second

1249
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 2: and third, so they are two and one. Luke, take

1250
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: the elk cher.

1251
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: I will take that out. That is you see that

1252
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: deserve it? L fair enough?

1253
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, here we go. Final one here, Luke,

1254
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: it's people coming at you. I was watching the UFC

1255
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: recap show of Volkoff versus Overeim, and when gloves were mentioned,

1256
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: I thought back to the time that Luke Thomas said

1257
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: in a live chat a couple months ago that he

1258
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 2: would love to work out with Brian Shaw as he

1259
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: revered him and his lifting abilities.

1260
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: Four Strongest Man.

1261
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 2: Yes, it's clear that Luke hates lifting gloves and anyone

1262
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 2: who wears them. So I would like Luke to explain

1263
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: why I found a picture of his idol Brian Shaw

1264
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: doing none other than the very lifting gloves has DISPARI.

1265
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,959
Speaker 1: Can we Yes, of course, of course this is wrong BC.

1266
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: I hope you understand. I am surrounded by amateurs who

1267
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: pretend to have knowledge that they clearly do not. This is,

1268
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: first of all, competition, not training. Show me any footage

1269
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: of him in training with gloves on. You'll never see it.

1270
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen the pause? Hold on? You ever

1271
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: seen the let me finish? That's Eddie Hall and this

1272
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: is for the History Channel. They made him do this,

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Speaker 1: so understand something. This lift go back to the original one,

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Speaker 1: Go back to the original one. This lift is an

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01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: engine part for either like a big jet, like a

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01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: like a race car or a fighter jet, and it's

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01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: got no real handles and it's slick. They make them

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01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 1: use the gloves just for traction in this one event

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01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: he said lifting gloves. BC, look at those gloves. Those

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Speaker 1: are not lifting gloves. That is a one time glove

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Speaker 1: wearing for a one time event, for a one particular apparatus,

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01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: which is an engine part nothing else. Brian Shaw, who

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01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: I follow on Instagram and YouTube and everything else, matter

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Speaker 1: of factly does not wear lifting gloves ever, period, not now,

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01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: not then, not tomorrow. Doesn't happen. You, amateurs, think, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the difference is because to you this

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01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: looks like a lifting glove. It's not, and he's not

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01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: training with it. It's just what they make them wear

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Speaker 1: for this particular event. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Luke, I've I think that because of this segment

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01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: has become so contentious that the people when our producer

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Speaker 2: Mikey tabulates these, I think that the name and you

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01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: know and address or social address to Twitter account handle

1294
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: of the person should be on the screen, Luke, so

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01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 2: we can heckle them.

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Speaker 1: I agree, because dude, this is not evidence that Brian

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Speaker 1: Shaw trains with lifting gloves, which was the claim, not

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01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: even close to being true.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember six foot six NBA point guard from

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01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: the nineties, Brian Shaw, out of uc Santa Barbara.

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Speaker 1: Remember him vaguely?

1302
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: He was a he was a guard for the Celtics,

1303
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: heat Lakers, a bunch of others. Luke, did you know

1304
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: that Madonna banged him during that run? That led to Rodman?

1305
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: Well, who didn't she bang besides you and me during

1306
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 1: that run?

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01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: Brian Shaw? I mean, like google him, Brian Shaw? You know,

1308
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 2: really who was.

1309
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: The who was the ausse center for the Bulls during

1310
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: Wizards or sorry during Jordan. Luke Longley, He's the only

1311
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: like worthless big man I can remember.

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01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, he had good hands, he could shoot,

1313
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 2: he could pass, Luke, he was not worth it?

1314
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: Did he was? He really that money?

1315
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 2: He was better than Weddington and Purdue and those other

1316
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: slobs they had. Okay, come on all right, Luke. We

1317
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: we are gonna speed up this exit. By the way,

1318
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 2: I told you I had it time perfectly.

1319
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: You did, you did. Sorry, It's just when your back

1320
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: is about to explode like a jet ski. You know

1321
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta, you gotta do some things.

1322
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: Luke, Just don't die, because we have really big plans

1323
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: for this show, and who the hell am I going

1324
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: to do this show with? I mean, come on bro.

1325
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: All right, you could, you could do it with I

1326
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: don't know. Must be some people out there in MM

1327
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: you like besides me.

1328
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: I love that guy with the hat. That guy's the best.

1329
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah he's good, he's all right.

1330
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 2: Lukes like, yeah, fuck he's he ain't me, he ain't

1331
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas right, he ain't about to shoot.

1332
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 1: He's wondering how many people have to shit their pants

1333
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: on a daily basis.

1334
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: All right, let's touch the tips to close it every

1335
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: Friday with the orange background and know Jay, this is

1336
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: what we do. We shout out a recommendation, a tip

1337
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 2: of the cap, a warning. Here's your free tip. Luke,

1338
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: I'll go first, you know, because you've been in my

1339
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 2: orange twenty twenty super cross track that I love me

1340
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 2: some serious XM radio, Luke. I listen to it on

1341
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: the app. I got it on my stereo up here.

1342
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 2: I'm living, I'm loving it. Channel twenty seven is normally

1343
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: deep tracks, Luke. One of my favorite channels goes back

1344
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: to sixties rock, pulls out some album filler tracks that

1345
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: you forgot about right now for a limited time. Channel

1346
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 2: twenty seven is the Jimmy Hendrix channel and Luke that

1347
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 2: actually matters. Why not just because the Jimmy Hendrix experience

1348
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: and Jimmy Hendrix is my favorite artists of all time

1349
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 2: and music, but because their library is very well protected

1350
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: by the family, by Hendrickson's extended family that you know,

1351
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: own his name and his legacy. You don't see Hendrix

1352
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 2: songs on YouTube, for example, right they get shut down instantly.

1353
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 2: So fun time to be alive. If you have the

1354
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: old XM. All right, put on the old Jimmy Hendrix's

1355
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,479
Speaker 2: channel and rock out. Okay, look that's some serious art, all.

1356
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: Right, bro, that is some art all over your face.

1357
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: We love that for me. Is very easy. You can

1358
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: go to Sundaylongread dot com. You should subscribe to the

1359
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: Sunday Long Read. Why every Sunday these people look around

1360
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 1: the Internet for a series of articles. There's many in there,

1361
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: twenty to thirty sometimes, and they tell you how long

1362
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: it takes to read it, and what it's about and

1363
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: why you should care. And there'll be some stuff in

1364
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: there you just never read because you can't get to

1365
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 1: all of it. There'll be some stuff that you focus on,

1366
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 1: and you know, some stuff you never even thought you'd

1367
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: care about, and you might, but the key is the

1368
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 1: curation that goes into the topics that are selected is

1369
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 1: really next level. If you want to understand the big

1370
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: stuff that's going on in society, they're good about that,

1371
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 1: and then also these little weird, nifty kind of different

1372
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: angles you never would have anticipated. It's all free. You

1373
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: don't have to pay a single dime for it. They

1374
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 1: have extra clubs inside if you want that extra stuff.

1375
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 1: But honestly, I've never paid for it, and I get

1376
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: tons of good reading out of it every single weekend.

1377
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: You cannot go wrong. So go to Sundaylongread dot com

1378
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: and subscribe. It will show up in your inbox and

1379
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: you'll be much more informed for it. I love it.

1380
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: Couldn't make it a give a, couldn't give it a

1381
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 1: stronger recommendation.

1382
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 2: Love it, Love it. Tell them Luke sent you. By

1383
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 2: the way, all right, that's your show for the week.

1384
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: Luke has to shit his pants and we are all

1385
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: hoping his goallblader, Luke, What if you had surgery? Would

1386
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 2: you be out for a while?

1387
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 1: No, I would be at nine am, the surgery would

1388
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: be I'd be home by one or two pm, you know,

1389
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: rested up that day. Everybody to go the.

1390
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: Next day, Luke, would you consider having this done while

1391
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: you're there? Just two for the price of one.

1392
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: You know, you know what three needles. I'm not afraid

1393
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 1: of three needles like some guys. I know. Yeah, I

1394
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: don't know.

1395
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: We should live stream that. Oh, Morning Combat doncumentary two

1396
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 2: point zero. I hear, I hear next week, so get

1397
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: ready for that. Please check out all our bonus content

1398
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 2: interviews with Adrian Broner, Macy Barber, Corey Sanhagen, and a

1399
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: lot more to come from that. Also room service diaries.

1400
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 2: We hit you with that on Wednesday if you missed it,

1401
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 2: our extended coverage of the Bellatore announcement. Some good interviews

1402
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 2: in there. We saw the t's today.

1403
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

1404
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 2: There is our social handles. If you want to send

1405
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: in a dead wrong or you want to send in

1406
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: a fan submission, please Morning Combat at gmail dot com

1407
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,479
Speaker 2: is the address to do that. A lot of people

1408
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 2: dm he's gonna be c I finally got my sweatshirt.

1409
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 2: I want to send in a pick All right, bro,

1410
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 2: send it in right there to the email. You can

1411
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,439
Speaker 2: DM me if you need to. Also, look, guys, it's

1412
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: time for showtime. And I know a lot of people.

1413
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 2: Oh good, that means BC and Luke going to shiel

1414
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 2: Had for bellatore Bro Beltour's got some badass cards coming

1415
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: up in an eight man light heavyweight tournament. You best

1416
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,479
Speaker 2: believe as an MMA fan, I'm gonna shill hard because

1417
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: they're gonna So why don't you watch this for free

1418
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: thirty days trial at showtime dot com. Also an introductory

1419
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: deal for new subscribers six months at what four ninety

1420
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: nine a pop per month. You're gonna get Bell Tour season,

1421
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna get the boxing, you're gonna get Action. Action

1422
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: is a good series. Watch that, Luke Thomas Merch. Which

1423
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: merch do you wear the most? Which one?

1424
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: The sweatshirts? The sweatshirts? Okay, Okay, no that's not true.

1425
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: I use the mugs and the tumblers almost every day,

1426
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:32,919
Speaker 1: so I gotta say that is what I use the most.

1427
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: Okay. I wear this a lot when I go to

1428
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 2: the hardware store, you know, when I go to the

1429
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 2: recycling center. Luke, this is what I wear a lot.

1430
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 1: Okay.

1431
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 2: It's my dad hat. Thank you, thank you very much.

1432
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,439
Speaker 2: You can check out our work on CBS Sports HQ

1433
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: this weekend before during after the pay per view.

1434
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 1: We'll we'll have a live postfight show here on Morning Combat.

1435
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: Check that out Saturday after the fights end. All right,

1436
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: that is all for Luke Thomas's bowels. My name is

1437
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell, reminding you Luke and BC definitely making it

1438
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 2: look easy. But shout out to everybody behind the scenes

1439
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 2: from making this train work. Malcol Showtime, CBS Sports, Gaff

1440
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 2: and Manicha on the producing ones and twos. Is Jay

1441
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: coming back? Jay Jay?

1442
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: Who never heard? Dude, I'm seriously, I'm about I'm about

1443
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 1: to just start shipting blood. We gotta do.

1444
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see if if we I'm trying to

1445
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: see if we can capture that moment.

1446
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna be real. I'm gonna take a picture and

1447
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:23,639
Speaker 1: send it to you when this is all over.

1448
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: All right, may all your your your hose? Uh yeah,

1449
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 2: loyal up. That's it for Luke Thomas on BC with

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01:08:30,720 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 2: two words, we out