Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the
Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist, Sophia. We
Speaker 1: do like to ask our guests, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I have recently gone insane, and thank you
Speaker 2: so much Smith. I've been working so hard. It's really
Speaker 2: just it's just an honor to be nominated.
Speaker 3: And then right, yeah, truly on your first try.
Speaker 2: This is how you know I'm insane. Okay. I went
Speaker 2: from not caring or liking Taylor Swift at all to
Speaker 2: now joining a reddit called galer where I have seen
Speaker 2: multiple slide show presentations that prove that Taylor Swift was
Speaker 2: gay with Carly Kloss and others that proved that she
Speaker 2: was also gay with Diana Agron from Glee and also
Speaker 2: this other model from Britain named Lily. They are all
Speaker 2: just the same white woman. She's just fucking herself over
Speaker 2: and over again. It's just like kind of fascinating. And
Speaker 2: now like, this is how you know I've gone insane,
Speaker 2: Because if you look at that search history, you will
Speaker 2: probably think I am seventeen maybe I don't know, and.
Speaker 3: You're shipping shipping Taylor with all these models.
Speaker 2: I like, I don't care that. It's like I don't
Speaker 2: have a vested interest in the relationships, right, I care
Speaker 2: about it in the same way that if, like you
Speaker 2: found out that, like I don't know, Obama and Biden
Speaker 2: were lovers, you were like, Okay, I need to know
Speaker 2: a little bit more about how the fuck this works,
Speaker 2: Like how did you pull this off?
Speaker 3: When did they get together? I need to all of
Speaker 3: the questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, well, how do you do that and
Speaker 2: have full time boyfriends? Like this is a lot of
Speaker 2: like like covering being gay, Like how how are you
Speaker 2: pulling it off? So anyway, just if you want to
Speaker 2: lose your goddamn mind, go down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 3: Are these slide shows like particularly compelling or they're just
Speaker 3: like look at all these images that if you have
Speaker 3: your confirmation bias set to galer, then yes.
Speaker 2: And yes, But also some of the stuff is like, wow,
Speaker 2: that is very gay. I don't know that I should
Speaker 2: be out here trying to decide whether Taylor is gay
Speaker 2: or not. But the whole reddit is run by other
Speaker 2: gay people who are just obsessed with the idea that like,
Speaker 2: she's queer and her music is queer, and she's been
Speaker 2: telling us and showing us and we're just like not
Speaker 2: getting it. So as a cultural study, it is the
Speaker 2: most fascinating thing. And to answer just I show a question,
Speaker 2: some of them are like they're like a little thumbprint.
Speaker 2: They're like a very individual snapshot of a person's mind. Right,
Speaker 2: it's like all confirmation bias obviously, Yeah, but you're also
Speaker 2: watching them interr pret song lyrics where you're like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: that just means any and you want it to me.
Speaker 2: That is a very vague lyric like no, it refers
Speaker 2: to the one time that Carly bought a gold dress.
Speaker 2: It was this day, here's the receipt. The song that
Speaker 2: says jeans and Nikes. Carly was a Nike spokesperson in
Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. You understand how deep.
Speaker 3: These women go. I love that you You also have
Speaker 3: facts now that like you know these models like endorsement.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't know any of this. That is what's so insane.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't know any of it. I shouldn't be thinking
Speaker 2: about it. It is like an addiction, Like I think
Speaker 2: assume what people feel like when they gamble, just like
Speaker 2: a rush.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2: Insane, and then it doesn't make any sense, but you're like,
Speaker 2: let's keep doing it. Yeah, anyway, the gay the subreddit
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: She kind of has to be everything to everyone right, right,
Speaker 1: and so like by keeping things that perfectly vague, yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of creates this thing where she can like
Speaker 1: break all the box office records when she lets people
Speaker 1: go watch a concert that they can also watch in person.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I also just enjoy the fact that, like
Speaker 2: she's just if she is gay, she's only gay for
Speaker 2: exact copies of herself, which I think is a fascinating category.
Speaker 2: It's like, no, she's not clear, she's queer for Taylor, right,
Speaker 2: Like I just want to find mirror images of myself too. Fuck,
Speaker 2: that is so wild.
Speaker 1: Wasn't that Liberaci's thing? Like didn't he have a lover
Speaker 1: who he gave plastic surgery to look more like Liberaci?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Wow, yes that is true.
Speaker 3: Yeah you said that's so unequivocally, Yes, that is true.
Speaker 2: Well, because yeah, I mean people bring that up a
Speaker 2: lot as like a Libaraci thing. They're like, did you
Speaker 2: know because it's so weird.
Speaker 3: I wonder if, like, I think it's an interesting exercise
Speaker 3: just for anyone with an imagination to try and make
Speaker 3: anything true about Taylor Swift, like using the same methodology.
Speaker 3: We're like you Actually, if you think about it, all
Speaker 3: of her lyrics are steeped in like black panther ideology.
Speaker 2: There's someone right now making that slideshow right right right,
Speaker 2: like foresure, there's a Swift contingency that's like, you don't
Speaker 2: understand what being a black panther is until you listen
Speaker 2: to Red Taylor's version, like.
Speaker 3: Red is actually an anthem for the Crip gang despite
Speaker 3: it being called Red. And here in this thread, I will,
Speaker 3: I will.
Speaker 1: You've seen the theory that her dad is the Zodiac killer, right,
Speaker 1: and she's trying to reveal that through her lyrics. I
Speaker 1: just made that up, But.
Speaker 2: That is again probably being built right now. Right as
Speaker 2: you said it, people were like, this is true, Sady.
Speaker 1: What's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 4: So I think you know, when you go to the
Speaker 4: like basically the US Border patrol, the fear of US
Speaker 4: Border patrol, I think that's overrated because I was like,
Speaker 4: it's my first time coming to America and people were like, oh,
Speaker 4: this white guy got sent back. He the border patrol
Speaker 4: guy asked him three times, what are you doing here?
Speaker 5: What are you doing here?
Speaker 4: And the third time he must have said something funny,
Speaker 4: and they sent him back. So I was like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, they're not gonna let me in and they're
Speaker 4: gonna send me back. And this is what happened. The
Speaker 4: guy basically was like, did you travel alone? And I
Speaker 4: was like yeah, unfortunately, I'm on my I'm single. And
Speaker 4: he was like how long you here for us had
Speaker 4: two months? And he was like, oh, you here to
Speaker 4: get some dick.
Speaker 2: I was like what wa Yeah.
Speaker 4: Basically we just start laughing. I had a whole suitcase
Speaker 4: full of my book sex Well. I'm like, oh no, please,
Speaker 4: don't search my suitcase. And he was just like, welcome
Speaker 4: to America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, get it in. Yeah, boom boom, stamped your
Speaker 3: ship af you go.
Speaker 5: I was gone.
Speaker 4: I was I was going to do anything I had
Speaker 4: to do to get in, to be honest, whatever he wanted.
Speaker 1: So, I mean that sounded like he was opening the
Speaker 1: door to that conversation. He's like, oh, is your numbering
Speaker 1: your passport? Let me see that real quick. Let me
Speaker 1: get that whatsappen.
Speaker 4: But the thing is before me, I was sweating in
Speaker 4: the lines. Before me, there was this like European. She
Speaker 4: didn't look British, but she was a white blonde girl.
Speaker 4: He took her to the room and then came back
Speaker 4: to the table so she had some further questioning. So
Speaker 4: I was like, that's a white girl. I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm in trouble, and we just start laughing. It was
Speaker 4: I was just so happy the way that worked out.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I can't imagine. I mean,
Speaker 3: like I feel like I was a very New York
Speaker 3: in her eye show too, Like if someone in that
Speaker 3: capacity goes, oh so you hear from Dick like.
Speaker 5: That accommodating, right, yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm glad he knew the audience rather than like saying
Speaker 3: that to someone who maybe.
Speaker 4: I just love how he sensed desperation, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like he didn't know me, he must have
Speaker 4: just seen my but he was like, why are you
Speaker 4: moving around in the in the queue. I was worried
Speaker 4: about him. He must have thought I was like just
Speaker 4: ready to pounce right right.
Speaker 1: He was like asking, why were you were like giving
Speaker 1: a little squirm.
Speaker 2: What was Yeah.
Speaker 4: He was like, oh you're you're moving from side to side,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I just be quiet because I
Speaker 4: just I'm not going to argue with no one who's
Speaker 4: got authority over me.
Speaker 5: Like it's just not going to happen.
Speaker 3: Right right, right, right right. You're like, oh, so you're
Speaker 3: a doctor. Now You're like you're not going to come
Speaker 3: back with that response, like, yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know what I said. I must have said
Speaker 4: something back to him. I said, oh, you're no, this
Speaker 4: is what I said the castlicer. I mustaid, Oh, you're
Speaker 4: very observant.
Speaker 1: There, you I mean, yeah, he is.
Speaker 6: He kind of landed on the on the right question, right, Yeah,
Speaker 6: so wait, maybe like there are some people work in
Speaker 6: the US Border Patrol who are like born for this,
Speaker 6: Like I'm.
Speaker 1: Just very observant and.
Speaker 3: I can read people I know, and that's why super.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, right exactly. The nervous person in line whisper.
Speaker 3: Right while you're here, So two months are you are you?
Speaker 3: Are you out there? You're gonna be you be hitting
Speaker 3: the app so you're gonna you staying open, you're looking
Speaker 3: for love. You just kind of you know you're here
Speaker 3: if someone happens, it happens, you're not how you're really
Speaker 3: looking for.
Speaker 4: Someone told me actually when I was in England because
Speaker 4: I'm trying to like find an agent or whatever not,
Speaker 4: and they were like, oh, you should just join all
Speaker 4: the apps, like because you'll meet the best people like that.
Speaker 4: She wasn't even really strictly talking about dating. But I'm
Speaker 4: very anti app. I just I just I don't like it.
Speaker 4: I like real life kind of stuff. So love would
Speaker 4: be great, Dick would be really good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get you. Yeah, we need to get
Speaker 3: you to like an art opening, like a gallery opening,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, find some find some wavy.
Speaker 5: Listen these guys on the streets collecting cans.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, You're like, are you willing and able? Then?
Speaker 5: No, I love them. I pasted out. You know, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I love them?
Speaker 5: Are not willing and they're not able?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like Myles, I like that you went with art opening,
Speaker 1: Like are you are you picturing Thomas Crown Affair? What
Speaker 1: do we picturing?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: Just thinking like people who are kind of chill, you know,
Speaker 3: like because you never know what you get in a club,
Speaker 3: you know, so I feel like.
Speaker 5: You know, tell me. You can't get in the club,
Speaker 5: so I can watch out for it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel like side, you got a little
Speaker 3: bit of class tour, you know, so probably you could
Speaker 3: do with something a little bit elevated, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, not just some scrub. But yeah, but again,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't mean I'm like classy too.
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, right, my final dress at the library.
Speaker 1: Looking for something? All right, what is Marcella? What is
Speaker 1: something that you think is overrated? You know?
Speaker 7: I couldn't think of something maybe because I.
Speaker 5: Got a little high.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you got a little high, A little high
Speaker 1: this time, ladies and gentlemen, introducing a little bit high
Speaker 1: Marcella for the first time. She's never been a little bit.
Speaker 7: High on our podcast, on anyone's podcast. Okay, I trust you, guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 7: I thought there was not going to be a guest host.
Speaker 7: I was like, you know what, I can get a
Speaker 7: little high. I read the comments. People get mad and
Speaker 7: I'm so mean to Jack and I know, and I'm
Speaker 7: a little high. I'm a little more.
Speaker 3: I like that Jackie's fun. It's all good.
Speaker 7: I love how I loved Jack's liked you nice to
Speaker 7: Marcelo when she's mean to me. Guys, it's okay, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I mean a lot of And you know what's funny
Speaker 7: is a lot of guys don't understand it too. There's
Speaker 7: a comic who's like, has a little crush on me,
Speaker 7: and I'm just very mean to him. Yeah, and I
Speaker 7: really give it to him more because i know he
Speaker 7: really enjoys it, and I'm waiting for him. I'm waiting
Speaker 7: for him to be like, Marcella, why are you so mean?
Speaker 7: And I can't wait to be like, stop asking me
Speaker 7: why I'm so mean? And ask yourself why you like it?
Speaker 5: You bitch.
Speaker 7: Oh that's going to be a moment when he when
Speaker 7: I have that exchange. I wait, I know it's gonna
Speaker 7: happen one day because this is such a mean Why
Speaker 7: do you like it?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the real question. What's your mom do to you?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 7: That's what I want to know.
Speaker 3: What didn't you do?
Speaker 1: You little pain?
Speaker 5: Hug?
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 7: Little high, So I'm a little I'm a little more
Speaker 7: fun and a little more rambling.
Speaker 3: But it'll be.
Speaker 7: Worth it, guys. So like I just showed you, but
Speaker 7: over under it, I couldn't think of something. But so
Speaker 7: I decided to google things like what did people find overrated?
Speaker 3: Because I was like, there you go.
Speaker 7: This is because it's all it's all opinion. So the
Speaker 7: top three things in the first three articles. The number
Speaker 7: one thing one bitch wrote bacon overrated. It's overrated. Okay,
Speaker 7: so I already know the bitch has no taste.
Speaker 1: Like, I also feel like you're about to out a
Speaker 1: bunch of our former guests because they're like, what if
Speaker 1: you well, what if you like named a bunch of
Speaker 1: like other people overrated and underrated, and they were just
Speaker 1: like googling, like, I don't have opinions are overrated.
Speaker 7: That's probably true to think about that. You're totally right.
Speaker 7: But bacon, come on, yeah, it's simple meat. It's so good.
Speaker 3: I think we've said this in the in the past.
Speaker 3: We're like, it's properly rated. I get like, ten years ago,
Speaker 3: we were doing too much.
Speaker 1: It was o debates, overrated by some people who are
Speaker 1: not worth paying attention to. Nobody who are bacon people? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like who gives a fuck about them? Like let
Speaker 1: them have their weird little thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go to the like as they say, it's like
Speaker 3: the fucking heart attack cafe or whatever the fuck it's called,
Speaker 3: where like everything is bacon, Like I get it, we
Speaker 3: get it, but like you don't, don't you gotta hate
Speaker 3: on it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's so tasty, it's so good good.
Speaker 1: What else was about when you find yourself being like, uh,
Speaker 1: like I don't even really like this thing. That's fucking
Speaker 1: delicious and like makes my body like involuntarily do things
Speaker 1: like water just pour out of my mouth.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: But when that's your take, like you're you're working too
Speaker 1: hard to have a take exactly.
Speaker 7: I also just you know, it's good when religions are
Speaker 7: like you cannot have it, like you know.
Speaker 3: That shit is good?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 7: Ready here? So another okay, another article. I'm not going
Speaker 7: to name these people because they're all weirdos. But another
Speaker 7: person they're article and her number one choice was clubbing, clubbing,
Speaker 7: going out clubbing, and it was just like you loser, bitch, like,
Speaker 7: stop imposing your introverted lifestyle on people who enjoy being outside.
Speaker 3: When was the last time you went to the club? Though,
Speaker 3: more so you go to the club.
Speaker 7: Well, because of my foot injury, it has been few
Speaker 7: and far between, but I will say, like two weeks
Speaker 7: ago I think I was like my birthday party weekend,
Speaker 7: so was at what middle of August? So yeah, like
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago. I was out and I
Speaker 7: because my foot injury, couldn't really do much. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I took my boyfriend to this place in Medesto called Crocodile.
Speaker 7: It's like this old ass like it is a wedding
Speaker 7: reception without the family. It is so fun. There's like
Speaker 7: no drinks on the dance floor. They encourage people to
Speaker 7: dress up. There is a strict dress code and not
Speaker 7: like not on some like racist dress code on some
Speaker 7: like don't come in here, sloppy bro. Like guys have
Speaker 7: to have their shirts buttoned up. If they wear a
Speaker 7: button up, like you cannot have a little like tank
Speaker 7: top showing underneath. Like they're very much like no, bro,
Speaker 7: We're here to dance and drink and have a good
Speaker 7: time and respect everybody. And they're on it. Like I
Speaker 7: saw them go up to some guy, some young dude,
Speaker 7: because he thought he could get away with whatever. He
Speaker 7: was dressed up really cute, but he unbuttoned his shirt
Speaker 7: to like show off, and dudes came up and were like,
Speaker 7: you need to button your shirt back up. Bro, and
Speaker 7: I loved it because I was like, yeah, I got
Speaker 7: dressed up. You should dressed up too. Couples like seventy
Speaker 7: year old couples come in there dressed matching and dance
Speaker 7: the night away. Like I love going out dancing, and
Speaker 7: that's maybe that doesn't fall under clubbing, but there are
Speaker 7: places to go out and have a good time and
Speaker 7: dance and enjoy yourself. And I hate when people are
Speaker 7: like clubbing is so lame, Like, girl, you just don't
Speaker 7: like to drink and be out and it's loud and
Speaker 7: you're probably neurodivergent. You can't handle all the fucking sensory overload.
Speaker 1: Shit that's you might toothes like like this, this shit
Speaker 1: sounds so fun. We have another guest to talk about,
Speaker 1: like going to like there was like a chandelier room
Speaker 1: where they were like singing Elvis covers or some shit
Speaker 1: like just like go find a weird club.
Speaker 7: To find the club, Yes, find the club that works
Speaker 7: for you. But I don't shit on clubbing. Come on
Speaker 7: and Jersey Shore shit, I get like you don't want
Speaker 7: to be around that. I understand, Like, sure, you know
Speaker 7: there's so many different What.
Speaker 3: About bottle Wars did y'all see that clip over the
Speaker 3: weekend of the bottle warship that was going on. I know,
Speaker 3: like a Houston nightclub. It was like New York versus Baltimore.
Speaker 3: Bottle It's like this ship people have been doing for
Speaker 3: a while. You just start, you just start emptying bottles
Speaker 3: onto the floor for the flex. Oh god, dumping like
Speaker 3: six thousand dollars with their liquor, like onto the floor. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's it's the flex, you know what I mean. It
Speaker 3: manifests in different ways. But I'm at the Crocodile's website.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at they have a whole dress code sub page.
Speaker 3: Like so women, no sports attire, no T shirts, no sweats,
Speaker 3: no baseball caps, beanies, no overly revealing clothing. I like that.
Speaker 3: They're like, we're modest men. Collar dress shirts required, no
Speaker 3: sports attire, no T shirts, no longer shorts, sleeve shirts,
Speaker 3: no Henley's, No shallow V necks, oh Henley style of
Speaker 3: shallow V necks okay, no hoodies okay, shallow nice dress
Speaker 3: sweaters Okay. I can't get away my ship that I
Speaker 3: try and pull off with my V neck. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: deep like where I'm flirting with exposing navel, yeah percent,
Speaker 3: No sweats, no baggy loose clothing. No club colors. What
Speaker 3: are club colors?
Speaker 7: Are they to club colors like gang colors? Like red white,
Speaker 7: I mean red, I mean red, blue?
Speaker 3: Whatever else? No sandals, flip flops, no fans.
Speaker 1: You can't wear red or.
Speaker 7: Blue, or you just can't wear all red or it
Speaker 7: depends on the red and the blue. You can usually tell.
Speaker 3: Right right right, Yeah, if you don't have like a
Speaker 3: flag coming out of your pocket with your cool hut on,
Speaker 3: then maybe we have a problem. Wait, but you're saying
Speaker 3: this isn't on some like racist ship, because it's very
Speaker 3: much like they just want or they just want everybody
Speaker 3: to come in, like it's like it's a nice place, like.
Speaker 7: It's a nice place. I'm telling you that's not They're
Speaker 7: they're totally like trust me, Hood motherfuckers show up.
Speaker 3: Right, But there they are. But they're in their plates,
Speaker 3: they're in.
Speaker 7: Their player fit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's like it is.
Speaker 7: It seems like it off top, like I get it,
Speaker 7: but when you're reading it, but I'm telling you, it's
Speaker 7: not that they're like no, no, no, you can be Hood
Speaker 7: is fucking here and you can like be annoying and
Speaker 7: all that.
Speaker 2: Ship, but just be cute.
Speaker 7: Don't be a mess on the dance floor. You can't.
Speaker 7: Like they really are just like no, we're just here.
Speaker 7: It's like family. Like it's like a family function.
Speaker 3: I love it. Wow, interior does look like a time capsule.
Speaker 7: It is, dude. It's so fun if you're ever in
Speaker 7: the Central Valle and you want to go out, especially
Speaker 7: on Saturday night. Friday nights are pretty empty, but Saturday
Speaker 7: nights are always popping and they're soap and it's the
Speaker 7: music is insane. Yeah, wow, music is insane.
Speaker 3: Like it looks like it's like a fucking scene in
Speaker 3: Carlito's Way.
Speaker 7: Or yes, dude, yeah, so that's what I'm saying. When
Speaker 7: you walk in there, you want.
Speaker 3: To look cute right right right.
Speaker 2: They want you to match the vibe.
Speaker 1: It's like Carcado's Way mixed with a laser tag, like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's cute.
Speaker 7: So the music, like the other day, it was like
Speaker 7: it went from like suave mee to like eminem something
Speaker 7: like the music is insane. It's silly. It's just you're
Speaker 7: there for a silly time right right now. And that's
Speaker 7: the other thing. That's why it's like even the music
Speaker 7: is like kind of corny, but like in that fun way.
Speaker 7: Whe're like we never high school. Yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 7: you're at a party. You're just like, you know, you're
Speaker 7: just gonna be kissing tonight. That's it.
Speaker 3: Wow, shout out crocodile.
Speaker 7: I love crocodiles. It's the funnest all right.
Speaker 1: So finding a weird club is underrated having a like
Speaker 1: cool yeah, Unie.
Speaker 7: She was saying it was overrated, but it's like, now
Speaker 7: a man, find the clubs that work for you. And
Speaker 7: then the final article that I saw that the I've
Speaker 7: only gave the first one for the other two articles.
Speaker 7: I got to give the two on this one because
Speaker 7: it's really funny how they go hand in hand. This
Speaker 7: guy's idea of what's overrated. The first one is a
Speaker 7: formal education, which I agree, But then the second one
Speaker 7: is science.
Speaker 1: This guy's got some opinions on the go. He's done
Speaker 1: some research, some of his own research on the vaccine.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a fan of Fauci.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because it's like, oh yeah, formal education. I agree.
Speaker 7: Not everybody should be required to fucking for any fucking
Speaker 7: job to have a fucking aaba any of that shit.
Speaker 7: There's plenty of jobs of don't eat that shit. And
Speaker 7: then he said science and I was like, bro, I'm
Speaker 7: tapping out. We are not agreeing on the same on
Speaker 7: the same number one.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, wh I got my master's degree on YouTube,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's why I can go
Speaker 3: toe to toe with any person who went to a
Speaker 3: brick and mortar college, like go, sure, Okay.
Speaker 1: Actually got a Bachelor of Science from Praguer University, from
Speaker 1: which that's not usually there especial price based it's all
Speaker 1: faith based science.
Speaker 7: I got mine at ragu University, all sauce.
Speaker 3: Prego rag old world style degree.
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: come back and we'll check in with Donald Trump. We
Speaker 1: like to do it once a week, just make sure
Speaker 1: he's doing all right. We'll be right back and we're back,
Speaker 1: and uh, we won't be playing the Drake drop for this. No.
Speaker 1: Sixty one protesters have been indicted for violating Georgia's Rico
Speaker 1: Act for protesting the building of a massive military installation.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh huh A lot clear where the bad guys are right, Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 2: of course the protesters. Y, of course, how dare you?
Speaker 3: They're getting hit with charges like domestic terror for like
Speaker 3: trying to disable like machines or like you know, they're
Speaker 3: like they're throwing molotov cocktails and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3: Money laundering because they were setting up bail funds. They're
Speaker 3: trying to like they're going after these people in the
Speaker 3: most fucked up way. The charges are being pursued by
Speaker 3: the state's attorney general, you know, Republican Chris Carr. And yeah,
Speaker 3: this is like a some multifaceted movement of people that
Speaker 3: realize that building these police training facilities are just merely
Speaker 3: a terrible escalation of the militarized like police state that
Speaker 3: we're experiencing across the country, and you know, antithetical to
Speaker 3: lowering instances of police brutality. When you're like here's like
Speaker 3: an here's a whole place where you can train on
Speaker 3: how to suppress people's you know, democratic rights and things
Speaker 3: like that, it's.
Speaker 1: Like the police Brutality Training Complex.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because they wanted to. They want to be like,
Speaker 3: we want them to have the feeling of what it's
Speaker 3: like to like, you know, kettle people in city streets
Speaker 3: or neighborhoods so they can do it more efficiently to
Speaker 3: like round up people. And you know, the Attorney General
Speaker 3: and governor have been just steadily screaming about how like
Speaker 3: this this whole thing is actually the work of like
Speaker 3: an it's like an organized criminals. This is a criminal
Speaker 3: organization and enterprise to sort of create this rico narrative
Speaker 3: to go after protesters. And if you want to really
Speaker 3: understand how cynical and racist this shit is, if you
Speaker 3: just look at the date listed on the indictments for
Speaker 3: like they like they're putting May twenty fifth, twenty twenty
Speaker 3: as sort of like the beginning of like this shit
Speaker 3: going down, which is the day George Floyd was murdered. Okay, wow,
Speaker 3: So they want to conflate this event with all of
Speaker 3: the scary BLM protests to say, like, you see what's
Speaker 3: going on, folks, it's just this like large movement to
Speaker 3: so discord and chaos when all we're trying to do
Speaker 3: is make people safer. One of the days in Atlanta,
Speaker 3: Sherry Boston said that her office would withdraw withdraw from
Speaker 3: criminal cases involving the cop involving Cop City. But it's
Speaker 3: this is some scary shit. I mean, like, these are
Speaker 3: people exercising their First Amendment rights and the state in
Speaker 3: City of Atlanta have just made the whole this like
Speaker 3: into a campaign of like democratic suppression. You know, Like
Speaker 3: there's the officials they blocked a referendum on Cop City.
Speaker 3: They ignored all the pleas from the public, all the
Speaker 3: public comment like we do not want this, or other
Speaker 3: people in like Dacab County who are like this is
Speaker 3: near where I live, this is I do not want this.
Speaker 3: I do not want to see the forest raised so
Speaker 3: you can create this fucked up training facility. Then there
Speaker 3: were people who were like like local election board members
Speaker 3: were removed for opposing Copcity, and now we're charging protesters
Speaker 3: with domestic terrorism under the Rico Act.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I was gonna say that you should have
Speaker 2: so much shame that you're using the fucking Rico Act,
Speaker 2: which was used to bring down Copone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right on these people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like just the fact, like how do you even
Speaker 2: put that in your mind together as even remotely in
Speaker 2: the same camp. Well, it's just so fucking yeah. I
Speaker 2: mean I always am shook and like speechless because like
Speaker 2: I expect people at some point to have shame, and
Speaker 2: then I'm like, no, but they don't like what am
Speaker 2: I talking about. They're heartless and yeah, driven completely by
Speaker 2: money and power, So why am I so shocked? But
Speaker 2: it's like every fucking time, you know.
Speaker 3: And to try and again scare people from wanting to
Speaker 3: put checks and balances, you know, on our system, especially
Speaker 3: as it relates to law enforcement. It's like, oh, you
Speaker 3: want to protest this, watch to go scorched Earth on
Speaker 3: your ass. Meanwhile, we're like, yeah, these people who like
Speaker 3: storm the you know, like we have like people capital
Speaker 3: protesters where you see judge and you're like, well, you know,
Speaker 3: I kind of want to go softer? Am I sentencing
Speaker 3: here or there? Where you have a very focused AG's
Speaker 3: office in Georgia being like, yeah, you know what, let's go,
Speaker 3: let's go reco on them and try and make an
Speaker 3: example of these people.
Speaker 2: Also, sorry, I was just gonna say I was legally
Speaker 2: arrested for protesting in college. Yeah, illegally arrested for protesting
Speaker 2: in college. And I was part of a class action
Speaker 2: lawsuit against the Metropolitan Police Department in DC and we won,
Speaker 2: and like it was one of the most kind of
Speaker 2: fucked up in traumatic things being detained the way I was.
Speaker 2: I also wasn't a citizen yet, I was just a
Speaker 2: resident alien, and like they you know, took all of
Speaker 2: my paperwork, my resident alien card, all my shit, like
Speaker 2: when the cops twined it off of I just never
Speaker 2: got it back. But the amount of time and like
Speaker 2: effort and everything it takes to even go through a
Speaker 2: thing where you would then sue, like we ended up
Speaker 2: changing the law, but the number of years that it takes,
Speaker 2: like and the way that they treated us. You know,
Speaker 2: I was zip tied right hand to left foot for
Speaker 2: like over twelve hours, you know, the way they fucking
Speaker 2: like treated us in jail whatever, it just it was
Speaker 2: super fucked up. But the fact that they did that
Speaker 2: Friday morning, really early before an entire weekend of protests,
Speaker 2: that's pretty much the same tactic here. It's like they
Speaker 2: try to go hard early to discourage protesting, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like in the future, and it's the
Speaker 2: same tactics that Bush used. Because it was they were
Speaker 2: training in riot gear cops four months before this, Like
Speaker 2: it was all they had buses numbered ready to go
Speaker 2: because they were like, we're taking hundreds of people off
Speaker 2: the street. So then for the rest of the weekend
Speaker 2: there's no protests.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it's like it just like it makes me so
Speaker 2: fucking pissed because these people are gonna get fucked on
Speaker 2: a much much larger scale. What I'm talking about is
Speaker 2: child's play. And it's still was hard to get any
Speaker 2: sort of justice or change the law or have anything
Speaker 2: be different. And I feel like the number one thing
Speaker 2: they tell you when you protest, right, they're like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, you guys are thugs. You don't use the
Speaker 2: system correctly, Like why don't you use the lawful system?
Speaker 3: And that is what I did in this instance too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, okay, well I'll tell you I
Speaker 2: did the actual lawsuit and the lawful thing, and it
Speaker 2: is that is not you think that that's justice, that
Speaker 2: that's really what people should be doing, or that that
Speaker 2: fixes anything. Like obviously, if you are thinking that there's
Speaker 2: the right and wrong way to protest, you also are
Speaker 2: going to think that there's never the right way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people went to those city council meetings, they gathered signatures,
Speaker 3: they did every they tried it every single way. But again,
Speaker 3: when you have municipality and this bureaucracy, that's just intent,
Speaker 3: like just so intent on making this installation happen, no
Speaker 3: matter what you get these kinds of fucked up measures.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I'd hate to bring up private equity.
Speaker 1: No, don't do it, Miles, but it can't have.
Speaker 3: Two of the biggest corporate backers of cop City are
Speaker 3: Rourke Capital, which is a private equity firm that owns
Speaker 3: inspire brands, you know, the Duncan, RBS, Baskin, Robbins, Buffalo
Speaker 3: Wild Wings, et cetera. Their CEO sits on the board
Speaker 3: of trustees for the Atlanta Police Foundation, and they're raising
Speaker 3: sixty million dollars from corporate donors to build this place.
Speaker 3: Like so there's one part of it. The other is
Speaker 3: Silver Lake Management, which sounds like a cool maybe talent
Speaker 3: agency that represents bands from the East side of the LA.
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, it.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a like a like a land lording agency, right,
Speaker 2: like you rent your apartment from.
Speaker 3: In Silver Lake, right exactly. Silver Lake Management, they actually
Speaker 3: are tech focused private equity firm and they have a
Speaker 3: huge steak in Motorola Solutions aka the company that designed
Speaker 3: the surveillance system to make Atlanta the most surveiled city
Speaker 3: in the United States, and they also develop really cool
Speaker 3: tools for use in prisons the US Mexico border, and surprise, surprise,
Speaker 3: the West Bank because we talk about there's this conversation
Speaker 3: of using these sort of like crowd control technologies. They
Speaker 3: start off they can they use them like abroad, and
Speaker 3: the West Bank fine tune them, and then we end
Speaker 3: up seeing them boomerang onto our own shores, used against
Speaker 3: our people who are exercising their First Amendment rights. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it's wild to think that the ratio of cameras to
Speaker 3: people in Atlanta, it's forty almost forty nine cameras per
Speaker 3: thousand people in Atlanta. That's the highest. It's more than DC,
Speaker 3: it's more in New York City. And you're like, huh huh.
Speaker 1: It also feels like we're seeing like a FUCOS boomerang
Speaker 1: on like the legal president of Like, okay, we cheered
Speaker 1: when they used this against Trump, and then they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you're good, but watch this then and then watch this.
Speaker 1: We're going to use it against your ability to protest
Speaker 1: against a fucking military installation.
Speaker 2: It's just amazing. These are the people that are like,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, the Second Amendment is everything I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 2: what about that other amendment. Yeah, you know, no one
Speaker 2: that protects the right to protest, which you should be
Speaker 2: into because you're so into the law of the land
Speaker 2: right now. No, that amendment, I guess is bullshit. The
Speaker 2: first amendment. We just don't look at that one. That
Speaker 2: one's just like what epps.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean then you look at like even
Speaker 3: protesters that were killed by the police over the court
Speaker 3: like it's this is it's it's it's mind blowing. And yeah.
Speaker 3: Now again it's like the Republican Attorney General is like, yeah,
Speaker 3: watch this, I'll use the same grain jury that got
Speaker 3: those charges for Trump and we'll use it for this now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So, and I think there's a really valid point, Sophia
Speaker 1: that like they're you know, as we see more fear
Speaker 1: from the wealthy, as we see the billionaire owner of
Speaker 1: Cardier lose more sleep over the idea that like eventually
Speaker 1: the people are going to be pissed that we're billionaires, right, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the more we see that, the more we're going to
Speaker 1: see things like this where they're trying to make an
Speaker 1: example of people protesting. Yeah, I think it's imperative that
Speaker 1: we keep attention on these people and like, you know,
Speaker 1: understand that these are people who are working on our behalf,
Speaker 1: even though I think the mainstream media narrative is not
Speaker 1: always going to be very favorable to the to the
Speaker 1: protesters right.
Speaker 3: Now, and hardly would you hear it where it's like wow,
Speaker 3: they're really I mean again, everything is always tinged with
Speaker 3: slightly pro cop bias, So they just want to make
Speaker 3: it look like it's a bunch of like hippies who
Speaker 3: want to save the trees in the forest, when a
Speaker 3: lot of people like this is again, we're ramping up
Speaker 3: our militarized police state in a time when all they've proven,
Speaker 3: all we've seen from our law enforcement system is that
Speaker 3: it doesn't work. Doesn't work, it doesn't prevent crime. All
Speaker 3: it does is pile up more victims of police brutality.
Speaker 3: But yeah, these are the stakes right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: I think also these strategies, you know, always repeat. It's
Speaker 2: like every single time protesting happens, the way that they
Speaker 2: try to quell it is always tactics that they've used before.
Speaker 2: And I think one of those things is like that's
Speaker 2: great about the internet is if you go and protest,
Speaker 2: I just want to make that clear to everybody that like,
Speaker 2: you absolutely should if you can, but you should absolutely
Speaker 2: know going out what you should do and not do.
Speaker 2: Have the you know, National Lawyer's Guild number on you,
Speaker 2: like all of the stuff that you absolutely need to
Speaker 2: know you can look up. And it's just I think,
Speaker 2: really really important because like a privileged fucking white woman,
Speaker 2: I was still like an immigrant, which again scared me
Speaker 2: because you know, they charged me, they try to charge
Speaker 2: me with rioting because we asked for food and writing
Speaker 2: is a felony and if that happened, I would have
Speaker 2: been super fucked And like again privileged white woman, still
Speaker 2: was really fucked up experience. And you just need to
Speaker 2: know what you're going in and you need to have
Speaker 2: friends on the outside when you're protesting so that you
Speaker 2: know they know what the deal is. You have a plan,
Speaker 2: just like be careful when you do it. That's all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because they ain't playing fair out of here.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, they're not all right. If you guys
Speaker 1: heard the game six Degrees with Kevin Beagan, sink pivot,
Speaker 1: sick pivot.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, pivot.
Speaker 5: Have you seen this?
Speaker 3: You guys heard about this?
Speaker 1: You see this? Oh yeah, wait I got our guest
Speaker 1: last last time, when Sophia was almost like the thing
Speaker 1: the thing that is underrated about your podcast is the
Speaker 1: hurdling changes of pace.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we got to hit them all the guys
Speaker 3: comes at you quick.
Speaker 1: It does you know? Does your news feed stop to
Speaker 1: coddle you and think about your feelings?
Speaker 3: Don't you get a mixture of Apple alerts that are
Speaker 3: like bummer news? And then also it's like highly genderin
Speaker 3: Timothy Shallow.
Speaker 1: More Timothy Shallow relationship updates than I am.
Speaker 2: I mean I just go on the internet. I'm like,
Speaker 2: wowious joke about bussy and then underneath that, like we
Speaker 2: have created another monster voltron of cops. I'm like that
Speaker 2: that's live and.
Speaker 7: Then is it good for your city?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, cool, thank you?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your sexy dark voice is gone.
Speaker 1: I know my sexy voice smiles. I had the deepest
Speaker 1: voice that I've ever had when You're gone.
Speaker 3: When you were sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gave me like crazy deep voice.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean not that cool.
Speaker 3: It was still but people or like what's that what's
Speaker 3: the opposite of helium? That that gas? Or like you
Speaker 3: can like yeah before like super loose, Yeah.
Speaker 1: How I felt.
Speaker 2: Loved it especially, but everybody loved it. People were customerized.
Speaker 2: You could tell a sa that was we're falling for
Speaker 2: him the fluoride.
Speaker 3: That's what it is.
Speaker 2: They victor like justin everybody, everybody falling up over it.
Speaker 1: All right, So there's a new study from six different nations.
Speaker 1: This is just this is like one of those studies
Speaker 1: where it's like, wow, you did everything so well to
Speaker 1: like just put this into a press release, and I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at it. You did a good job. Fine,
Speaker 1: you've gotten my attention. But basically the whole thing, they're like,
Speaker 1: the thing about six degrees of come bacon also happens
Speaker 1: in real life where there's like six degrees of separation,
Speaker 1: and they kind of looked at the math of how
Speaker 1: humans form our friend groups and basically we are constantly evaluating.
Speaker 1: It's very very much sounds like, you know, a scientist
Speaker 1: who has not spent a lot of time around other humans,
Speaker 1: like observing humans because they're like human is constantly evaluating
Speaker 1: the cost benefit of keeping up old relationship alive or
Speaker 1: making a new friend.
Speaker 2: And he did the study because he wanted a friend.
Speaker 1: Totally, why do we do anything right? And I probably
Speaker 1: read it because of that. But the study like spends
Speaker 1: a lot of time basically explaining why people have friends,
Speaker 1: like they're just very confused about that.
Speaker 2: I think that's pretty sweet of that article, I know,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 1: I kind of love it. But the interesting details the
Speaker 1: Nash equilibrium, like the point at which people have no
Speaker 1: further incentive to go incentive to go outward with their
Speaker 1: friend making or inward with their friend pruning usually lands
Speaker 1: at a place that averages out to six degrees of
Speaker 1: separation from like everyone else on the planet, which is wild,
Speaker 1: but that that's the I mean, it makes sense. Like
Speaker 1: I assumed it was going to be something about like
Speaker 1: network dynamics and like how you know, over over time,
Speaker 1: you're like sort of compounding the number of like just
Speaker 1: you know, three degrees of separation away. You've like compounded
Speaker 1: the number of people that everyone knows. But it's also
Speaker 1: about how like the sizes of those groups that each
Speaker 1: person is connected to well different, you know, workout to
Speaker 1: an average of about an average of about six huh.
Speaker 2: How so, but that wouldn't have been true pre Internet.
Speaker 1: I think it has been true.
Speaker 3: That's the thing, Like, I think it's pre Internet, right,
Speaker 3: that yeah, yeah existed.
Speaker 2: So like no, no, no, I just mean, oh, I
Speaker 2: just mean, do you really? I guess I was thinking,
Speaker 2: like it's easy for me to think of being six
Speaker 2: degrees away from anyone on the planet, like with the
Speaker 2: Internet and like also just like oh, you have a
Speaker 2: friend that lives in this country and blah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. Right, but I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: Track yeah, yeah, right, right, right. So I didn't know
Speaker 1: the origin of the experiment or of the the idea
Speaker 1: of six degrees. It's actually Milgram, you know, the guy
Speaker 1: who like gives the experiment. Yeah, it's the famous shock
Speaker 1: experiment where people come into a lab and it was
Speaker 1: based on like the trials of Nazi prison camp guards
Speaker 1: at the Hug and how they were like, we were
Speaker 1: just following orders, and so he did this experiment show
Speaker 1: that people will continuously shock people whether or not. So
Speaker 1: basically the people weren't actually being shocked. Put a person
Speaker 1: a white lab coat, is like, keep keep administrating.
Speaker 2: Basically he wouldn't see the person. The person who was
Speaker 2: administering the shocks quote unquote, would hear someone's sounds of pain, yeah,
Speaker 2: but that person was acting. But the person who was
Speaker 2: shocking them didn't know they were acting, right, so they
Speaker 2: can what later churned out in addition to the result
Speaker 2: of like, oh yeah, people will straight up just follow
Speaker 2: orders because a guy I know, lab coat was like shocking.
Speaker 2: But the other thing that came out of it is
Speaker 2: a lot of ethics stuff for how you run studies,
Speaker 2: because the people that were fake shocking, once they found
Speaker 2: out it was fake, they were like super fucking traumatized. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not really great my life knowing that essentially you
Speaker 2: used me to prove that I could be a Nazi.
Speaker 1: A Nazi, go.
Speaker 2: Lay down, you know what.
Speaker 3: I just fallen orders, man, you just fallen orders.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And there are other things about the design of that
Speaker 1: experiment and like how so like some people might have
Speaker 1: really known that they were acting and who knows. But
Speaker 1: the other big experiment he did that I was not
Speaker 1: as familiar with was they basically tried to connect two
Speaker 1: people in as few steps as possible, just by like
Speaker 1: sending out this brown paper package and being like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're trying to get this to a Divinity student in Boston.
Speaker 1: You are a farmer in Iowa that we've ran dumbly
Speaker 1: selected from the entire population of the US, like go
Speaker 1: and what they found they were like, oh, well, I
Speaker 1: know this episcopalian like in my town. The episcopalian was like,
Speaker 1: I actually know somebody who I like met at an
Speaker 1: Episcopalian conference who's from Boston. And they got this package
Speaker 1: to this randomly selected divinity student and like a matter
Speaker 1: of six degrees and they they found that to be
Speaker 1: kind of consistently the case when they ran this experiment.
Speaker 1: And the thing that I hadn't fully appreciated is like
Speaker 1: they also asked people before this experiment, like what would
Speaker 1: you think the results would be, and like that.
Speaker 3: How many steps would take?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How many steps? And that that is like you know,
Speaker 1: I've known the six degrees of separation. I've known that phrase.
Speaker 1: I've known that that that is a Will Smith movie
Speaker 1: since I was, you know, properly storing memories. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what my guess would be, but the guess
Speaker 1: has ranged from like one hundred to one thousand, two
Speaker 1: people being like you'll never connect them, like it'll just
Speaker 1: like why would you ever be able to connect two
Speaker 1: random people? Like the world is so big and so massive.
Speaker 2: I would have guessed twelve for some reason really like
Speaker 2: ten or twelve. I think, what would you have guessed?
Speaker 1: I think I would have guessed a word one hundred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if no one had said anything about six degrees
Speaker 2: of whatever.
Speaker 3: Ever, yeah, I would probably think one hundred. Feels like
Speaker 3: I could do it within one hundred. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it feels like a safe that it is. It is
Speaker 3: a little mind blowing. You're like, would probably take less
Speaker 3: than ten. You're like, really, yeah, it seems Yeah.
Speaker 2: The fact that it's single digits, I think, like totally
Speaker 2: fucks me up. Yeah, exactly, fucks me up.
Speaker 1: The way my voice fucked up everybody last week fucked
Speaker 1: up never No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Miles, you better listen to that episode if you're respectful.
Speaker 3: Man and I get all self conscious and that come
Speaker 3: on tomorrow's episode, like, y, so we'll sell you as well.
Speaker 1: Be able to.
Speaker 2: Record anymore because you're just blushing so hard the entire time.
Speaker 3: It's just talking to me with that voice. Yeah, but I.
Speaker 2: Mean, like not putting yourself on camera because people can't
Speaker 2: handle it, just can't. You can't be on zoom.
Speaker 3: It's hard, like so now they can, So how you
Speaker 3: can apply this now to all kinds of sort of
Speaker 3: like network mapping, right if you kind of know this
Speaker 3: to be sort of it averages out to around six
Speaker 3: no matter what helps like with all kinds of like
Speaker 3: I guess you know how we look at pandemics or
Speaker 3: other network dynamic or network dynamic dependent phenomena.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's six infection cycles and the whole world has.
Speaker 1: The fucking thing is like kind of the dark side
Speaker 1: of this finding is you know, it spreads quick right,
Speaker 1: And I think this is true of also like social contagion,
Speaker 1: like the how quickly ideas spread, you know, because that
Speaker 1: that's a thing that spreads over over social media like
Speaker 1: faster than it ever has. And so I think we're
Speaker 1: less stable like across wide geographic margins than we ever
Speaker 1: have been, Like we're more susceptible to ideas that come
Speaker 1: in and sweep through and change things. And it's definitely
Speaker 1: like a power a powerful study because they yeah, they
Speaker 1: specifically say, when we did the math, we discovered an
Speaker 1: amazing result. This process always ends with social paths centered
Speaker 1: around the number six. Each individual acts independently without knowing
Speaker 1: the network as a whole. Yet this self driven game
Speaker 1: shapes the structure of the entire network, leading to the
Speaker 1: small world phenomenon and the recurring pattern of six degrees.
Speaker 2: That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, that small world. It is funny that
Speaker 3: like when we went to a museum in like London,
Speaker 3: we ran into somebody who her magic you didn't even
Speaker 3: know book came to find out they were at the
Speaker 3: same college at the same time, randomly like helping a
Speaker 3: stranger up the steps with a baby stroller and we
Speaker 3: had one too, and then started talking and then it's
Speaker 3: just like, oh, yeah, my husband went there, and then
Speaker 3: it's like, what the fuck, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't even a thing where you were like
Speaker 1: wearing the same sweatshirt and like noticed each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, not at all. Just groups of parents
Speaker 3: college had waving up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, does this guy think.
Speaker 2: He is before run into the same people when I'm
Speaker 2: visiting a place, like a different like during my vacation
Speaker 2: or whatever, like at a lot of different places and
Speaker 2: not like tourist attractions. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It happened to you ever, that happened to me this weekend,
Speaker 1: the Huntington Park or the Huntington Library, whatever the fuck
Speaker 1: that thing is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not in gardens.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing huge garden, and like we arrived with
Speaker 1: like three different groups of people like just in line
Speaker 1: at the same time, and like kept seeing that we
Speaker 1: were just like on the same we would like circulate
Speaker 1: going like all these weird different directions, and like kept
Speaker 1: seeing those same people.
Speaker 2: And it's a big ass park. Oh, so many different
Speaker 2: ways to go. It's like not or when I rented
Speaker 2: my place in Paris. I knew one person there and
Speaker 2: he was like, oh, what's your address? And I gave
Speaker 2: it to him and he started laughing and he's my friend.
Speaker 1: He's half a block.
Speaker 2: His place was half a block away.
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: Really I knew one person in all of Paris and
Speaker 2: ended up renting an airbnb.
Speaker 1: Huge, it's like ten twelve blocks. It's so big. Find
Speaker 1: no Paris Like it's you got the Eiffel Tower. You
Speaker 1: got a couple streets on the left side of the
Speaker 1: Eiffel Tower, the right.
Speaker 2: Done so far, there's the river. We're done.
Speaker 3: You got the sports, the champs. Sports at least a
Speaker 3: got it all.
Speaker 1: See so it comes back so.
Speaker 2: Culture champs head me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. All right, Well let's take another quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk about Donald Trump, We'll
Speaker 1: be right back, and we're back, and the internet is,
Speaker 1: you know, just just clogged with jokes about this recent
Speaker 1: flight that had to make an emergency landing because one
Speaker 1: of the passengers had just a crazy, just an unexpected
Speaker 1: amount of diarrhea. It's un like spilling into the aisles
Speaker 1: levels of diarrhea. This was a delta flight for Atlanta
Speaker 1: to Barcelona was forced to turn around and make an
Speaker 1: emergency landing after a passenger. This is the quote that
Speaker 1: I think people are responding to, quote head diarrhea all
Speaker 1: the way through the plane. That is a powerful description
Speaker 1: all the way through the plane.
Speaker 3: Of that, I think. And then they said it was
Speaker 3: a I think then they told that from the cockpit
Speaker 3: they said it was a biohazard event. Yeah, that was
Speaker 3: forcing them to turn the plane around, which is very
Speaker 3: It's something. The amount of obsession with this story is
Speaker 3: kind of wild. I don't know if it's tapping into
Speaker 3: like just in it like innate fear we have as
Speaker 3: people or what. But I I thought this was like
Speaker 3: a headline I would see come and go. But the
Speaker 3: amount of like other places like Vice TMZ, like all
Speaker 3: these other blogs that are now like writing like long
Speaker 3: form articles about it, like where did like where did
Speaker 3: the sort of of like social norms break down during
Speaker 3: this event? Like it is something like I'm now like
Speaker 3: seeing think pieces about like how did we get to
Speaker 3: the point that I was in.
Speaker 5: The eyes the pook?
Speaker 3: Yeah? How what happened? What went wrong?
Speaker 1: What required? Like why why are they saying social norms
Speaker 1: broke down? Like isn't it just somebody who had health problem?
Speaker 3: I think there. I think it's almost wondering, like how
Speaker 3: could it be that much? Why is it all? Like
Speaker 3: why is it all up and down the plane? Like
Speaker 3: with someone in blogging the bathroom. There's just it's caused
Speaker 3: more questions than I feel like we even need to ask,
Speaker 3: you know, how.
Speaker 5: Much weight he lost?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Will it stay off? You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I don't know, I need Yeah, we know it's.
Speaker 5: Him because women wouldn't roll like that, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean?
Speaker 3: Coming I think it was the dude had to be
Speaker 3: wearing cargo shorts. It's just like a like a ru
Speaker 3: yeah yeah maybe maybe very yeah. But it's like and
Speaker 3: it's just wild too, because now you're seeing like listicles,
Speaker 3: like here's some other unusual reasons like Pooh has like
Speaker 3: derailed a flight and you're like, wow, well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the thing, is not that abnormal?
Speaker 1: Like right, I guess it's usually dogs, right, Like in
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, a plane had to make an emergency landing
Speaker 1: because the service dog pooped in the aisle. Let me
Speaker 1: get an exact description of that one, because they're like
Speaker 1: up to three times, according to multiple media reports. The
Speaker 1: airlines cab and crew did their best to clean up
Speaker 1: the mess, but then the animal service dog, according to
Speaker 1: US Airways, pooped again up to three times, according to
Speaker 1: multiple media reports. In twenty fifteen, a British Airways flight
Speaker 1: had to turn around due to a smelly pooh and
Speaker 1: the toilet so that presumably was not a dog. I'm
Speaker 1: shocked that it doesn't have a more frequently with dogs,
Speaker 1: because it did. I had a I don't tell the
Speaker 1: story very often because it turned out our dog was
Speaker 1: very sick and like we we didn't realize it at
Speaker 1: the time we were traveling with our dog, but our
Speaker 1: dog was you know, tiny, spreading out of the bag
Speaker 1: we were carrying her, and made a beeline for first
Speaker 1: class and just took a massive shit in first class.
Speaker 1: The flight attendants like brought her back, told us we
Speaker 1: were going to like have to turn the plane around
Speaker 1: if it happened again, And then it happened. It happened
Speaker 1: again because she was like an escape artist and it
Speaker 1: was it was really bad. I had always admired her
Speaker 1: for being a real one and taking the shit in
Speaker 1: first class, but you know it, like she ended up
Speaker 1: being very, very sick, like when we got when we landed,
Speaker 1: we took her to the vet and like she didn't
Speaker 1: make it much longer than that, unfortunately. But it was
Speaker 1: definitely incredibly stressful. And I have always wondered since I'm like,
Speaker 1: how do all these dogs, Like I see a lot
Speaker 1: of dogs on the flights, Like how do they they're
Speaker 1: I'm just impressed that they know that they need to
Speaker 1: hold it and that they're, like, you know, able to
Speaker 1: do that the hid time. I guess it's just like
Speaker 1: the owners like skip a meal beforehand.
Speaker 3: I guess. I mean, I've flown once with my dog,
Speaker 3: and that was the only fear I had the entire flight,
Speaker 3: was like you're gonna take a shit everywhere, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look like the dude with the shitty dog
Speaker 3: on the plane or the airport. I mean a lot
Speaker 3: of it had to do with like my own I
Speaker 3: think shame around having a like it weren't less so
Speaker 3: about the like worrying about the dogs, Like the dog
Speaker 3: will make me look a certain way, and I'm not
Speaker 3: about that life. So I had to maybe put my
Speaker 3: my my frail ego aside to let the dog do
Speaker 3: his thing. But yeah, I don't know, It's just I
Speaker 3: think it's a universal fear we all have, you.
Speaker 1: Know, Yeah, And I think I think there's also a
Speaker 1: lot of people like are just focused on what it
Speaker 1: must be like to be that person who had this experience.
Speaker 3: Right right, because now all we're talking about is person
Speaker 3: the person who did this mess and messed everybody's flight
Speaker 3: to Barcelona. You know what happened? What? How could that
Speaker 3: have happened?
Speaker 5: Too much, Carrie could.
Speaker 3: Be or maybe just having like our terrible air like
Speaker 3: airport food. That's one thing I'll say, the airport food
Speaker 3: is better in England than the US, because again I
Speaker 3: hate to bring up those like easy meal deal sandwiches,
Speaker 3: but if you buy a sandwich in the US airport
Speaker 3: is gonna be like a fifteen dollars croissant sandwich with
Speaker 3: turkey on it that tastes like absolute shit and who
Speaker 3: knows how good it is. So I feel like it
Speaker 3: could be it could be our it could be something
Speaker 3: at Hartsfield Jackson Airport. But I don't know. I don't
Speaker 3: quite know. The thing with the thing with this, like
Speaker 3: the BA flight that had to be turned around due
Speaker 3: to a quote smelly pooh, which is a very English
Speaker 3: description where Americans would be like, yeah, dude, just shit
Speaker 3: everywhere smelly pooh had to be I like that they
Speaker 3: said only fifty percent of the air is being recycled?
Speaker 3: Is that killing us during the pandemic? Like so much
Speaker 3: of the air gets re and like filtered or am
Speaker 3: I am? I completely missing that stat because I feel
Speaker 3: like that was a thing that people are always told
Speaker 3: about how the air on airplanes is much better than
Speaker 3: you would imagine.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, fifty percent is still is that a
Speaker 1: lot of the air? But yeah, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that even means, that fifty percent
Speaker 1: of the air is being recycled and cleaned, right, But yeah,
Speaker 1: a decision was taken to return for the safety and
Speaker 1: comfort of our customers on board. Yeah, very classy.
Speaker 3: Classic.
Speaker 4: Someone complained about the shit. You know that it can't
Speaker 4: have been that much. Someone complained, someone just couldn't handle
Speaker 4: the shit.
Speaker 1: But in this one, there have been videos from the
Speaker 1: from inside the plane after it all went down, and
Speaker 1: it looks like there are streaks of something running up
Speaker 1: and down the aisles.
Speaker 3: Those you know, it's funny though in these articles, you're like,
Speaker 3: those images have not been confirmed by the airline. It
Speaker 3: could be topic would be Scott scat propaganda, So I'm
Speaker 3: not sure entirely.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it was very bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3: Well they made at least they made their flight after
Speaker 3: a five hour delay.
Speaker 5: So you know who should play the guy in the movie?
Speaker 1: Right? It's a it's a great question. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it kind of has to be Tim Robinson.
Speaker 3: But is it someone nervous? Is it? Or is it?
Speaker 3: Or do you see someone with confidence at it? You
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like I can see it being
Speaker 3: a villain too. It's like, hey, I don't know what
Speaker 3: you want me to do, you know. Oh, you know,
Speaker 3: like I think if we put ourselves in that situation,
Speaker 3: we might be a little less brazen or confident about it.
Speaker 3: But hey, yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1: A confident person then it almost is like are they
Speaker 1: just doing it on purpose because they feel like they
Speaker 1: can get away with it? Like that that becomes weird.
Speaker 5: And how long till you fly again? Do you know
Speaker 5: what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 5: How long to you right?
Speaker 3: Do they right? Do they do? You get a new plane?
Speaker 3: Or they're like or you go back in the plane
Speaker 3: and you're kind of clocking all the master You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: they didn't really get everything. But you know what, I
Speaker 3: don't want to delay my vacation, so let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great questions that we don't We don't currently have
Speaker 1: the answer to it. But obviously this is an evolving story.
Speaker 1: Obviously that we will you know, well, we'll keep updating
Speaker 1: and will will. It's now history has its eyes on
Speaker 1: this one. We'll see where it lands, so to speak.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And finally, Hollywood keeps trying to recreate Barbenheimer in weird ways,
Speaker 1: which like, so one thing, we're getting a low budget
Speaker 1: parody movie called Barbenheimer about a group of quote fed
Speaker 1: up female dolls who build an a bomb to bring
Speaker 1: down the patriarchy once and for all. The poster is
Speaker 1: a Barbie doll silhouette in front of mushroom cloud and
Speaker 1: it says d cup a bomb Barbenheimer exploding soon m
Speaker 1: The studio in charge of this production is Full Moon Features,
Speaker 1: best known for the puppet Master and Trancers movies.
Speaker 3: What's Transfers.
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with puppet Master Trancers. Seems like it's
Speaker 1: like trying to capitalize on some other movie. But I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what what exactly that is.
Speaker 3: It's like, uh, it's I don't know it. It's the
Speaker 3: first one came out in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1: Four, The Transfers, the first Transers.
Speaker 3: It looks like some janky version of like Tron, maybe
Speaker 3: not Transformers.
Speaker 1: Huh no, yeah, it's like a fake Transformer's.
Speaker 5: Fake Oh I see.
Speaker 1: Sorry, fantasm like like the this feels like not not
Speaker 1: the highest level of it.
Speaker 3: Says a gruff bounty hunter travels back in time to
Speaker 3: nineteen eighties Los Angeles to stop a twisted criminal who
Speaker 3: can transform people into zombie like creatures.
Speaker 1: Oh that sucks hard hitting it? Well, they so this
Speaker 1: came out in eighty four, so they.
Speaker 3: Were of the first transfers did Yeah? Yeah, Helen Hunt
Speaker 3: was even in it.
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, so but mostly people, uh in studios
Speaker 1: keep trying to awkwardly force pairs of movies that happen
Speaker 1: to be releasing on the same day into the Barbenheimer mold.
Speaker 1: The most prevalent attempt at the moment seems to be
Speaker 1: Saw Patrol because Saw X and the new Paw Patrol
Speaker 1: movie both open on September twenty ninth, and so people
Speaker 1: are like, forget Barbenheimer, get ready for Saw Patrol on
Speaker 1: September twenty ninth.
Speaker 3: What is the logic they're applying. It's just that, like
Speaker 3: Saw in Paul rhyme, Therefore it's the LC double feature
Speaker 3: of all time.
Speaker 1: That's what worked about the last one.
Speaker 5: Which one are you gonna watch first?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Saudia, which one you catch them first? You go
Speaker 3: in Paw Patrol first? Or Saw Saw X first? Poo
Speaker 3: go Paw first?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, See. I think you need to watch
Speaker 1: Saw to like get ready to feel all of like
Speaker 1: what is actually happening in the Paw Patrol movie these
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 3: You need to prepare you, right, because the overlap of
Speaker 3: that that that's not even a Venn diagram of audiences.
Speaker 3: It's just two circles on top of each other, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like Ali, Barbie and Oppenheimer were obviously very
Speaker 1: different movies, but they you know, they could conceivably cater
Speaker 1: to the same audience like movie lovers first of all,
Speaker 1: and then like adults, but like, no adult wants to
Speaker 1: see Paw Patrol like that. That's a that's an actual
Speaker 1: scientific fact. No adult is going to Paw Patrol with
Speaker 1: being dragged there by a child, right, But kids would
Speaker 1: love to see Saw. They would They probably shouldn't. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of fun. There's a lot of creativity
Speaker 1: in Saw and things that appeal to a child.
Speaker 3: They left puzzles, especially once that end with you becoming
Speaker 3: disfigured or dying. Yeah, of course, but.
Speaker 1: They they are like both film studios are like playing
Speaker 1: into this, like they did a Saw like Saw Patrol
Speaker 1: social media post like they had the Paw Patrol puppies
Speaker 1: in a post from Paramount Picture saying seven tickets to
Speaker 1: Saw Patrol please hashtag Saw Patrol. And then Jigsaw doing
Speaker 1: like a weird children's puzzle and then I don't know,
Speaker 1: it says there is no escape. This is not really
Speaker 1: uh oh, but the children's puzzle is a Paw Patrol puzzle.
Speaker 1: So it's just Jigsaw having a meltdown and deciding to
Speaker 1: killtrol Post. That picture is like of like a mannequin
Speaker 1: that they just put a pencil in the hands, Like
Speaker 1: that is not like real hands and a jacket. You known, Like,
Speaker 1: look how rigid the hands are in that picture. It's like,
Speaker 1: dress this doll up and we'll say it's Jigsaw. But
Speaker 1: isn't Jigsaw That that Jigs was a toy?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Oh is it? Huh? Who is the guy? Oh? But
Speaker 3: then there was the guy Loki who was dying in
Speaker 3: the background, right, who was right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: I forgot See I'm this is so I don't fuck
Speaker 3: with those movies. I'm like, I don't want to see
Speaker 3: something where someone's head gets like sucked out with a
Speaker 3: vacuum or some shit.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna give it that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, life's already too fucked up. I don't need
Speaker 3: to be like, yo, you'd be worse if your eyeballs
Speaker 3: got fucking blown out by a fucking vacuum.
Speaker 1: Like no, I'm good then, all right, So just others
Speaker 1: that are they're trying to shoehorn in Taylor swift eras
Speaker 1: Tour and the Exorcist movie. They were trying to make
Speaker 1: it into exor Swift, but then the Exorcist movie fucked
Speaker 1: off because they didn't want to be on the same
Speaker 1: day that Taylor Swift was like breaking the box office, right,
Speaker 1: and then Indie Wire questioned if the new Barbenheimer could
Speaker 1: be the release of Martin Scorsese's historical drama Killers of
Speaker 1: the Flower Moon and the sci fi drama Foe, which.
Speaker 3: Like this, I don't know. It's just it's very confusing.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they It's just I think it
Speaker 1: just think happened the time, right.
Speaker 3: It just speaks to like the quote unquote brain power
Speaker 3: in Hollywood too, where you see like they see a
Speaker 3: thing work once and then the first thought is we
Speaker 3: need to replicate this in the most literal way possible,
Speaker 3: not like zooming out and trying to understand what happened.
Speaker 3: They're like, I don't know, they combined the word Barbie
Speaker 3: and Oppenheimer, and people fucking lost it. So let's do
Speaker 3: it with.
Speaker 1: All their money.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like a magic word and we say magic
Speaker 1: word and they give us all their money.
Speaker 3: We need to find we need to invent the new
Speaker 3: magic word to unlock people's brains to buy double feature tickets,
Speaker 3: rather than saying this was a you know, serendipitous occurrence
Speaker 3: where it was just through sheer coincidence and people being
Speaker 3: witty on the internet just kind of became a meme
Speaker 3: where they're like, I don't know, these are two ends
Speaker 3: of the spectrum that would be kind of interesting, rather
Speaker 3: than being like exer Swift. Huh.
Speaker 4: I think a good mashup would be Scarfacing Godfather. Wouldn't
Speaker 4: that be great?
Speaker 3: M m yeah, noah.
Speaker 1: At the same time, Hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm wondering though too, Like in the past, I'm
Speaker 3: sure like there were a ton of weekends like this
Speaker 3: where you had movies, but we just didn't have the
Speaker 3: Internet to like give it like a new name where
Speaker 3: I'm sure too, like two great films came out at
Speaker 3: the same time, but yeah, that's so obsessed with.
Speaker 1: The or we're at least out at the same time.
Speaker 1: Because movies used to stay out for like six months,
Speaker 1: they would be in theaters. They were like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's all we got for this year, folks. We
Speaker 1: made three movies. We hope you like one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the other options Despicable Meat four opens opposite Mufasa the
Speaker 1: Lion King, which those are just two animated movies for children.
Speaker 1: What the fuck are you guys talking about? But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it really feels like people have somehow forgotten that two
Speaker 1: movies opening on the same day is just a thing
Speaker 1: that happens literally every single week.
Speaker 3: Right, Like I mean, I feel like maybe like back
Speaker 3: when albums used to come out on Tuesdays, sometimes you
Speaker 3: would have those like blessed release days. You're like, yo,
Speaker 3: I'm actually getting two albums today. But again, it's it's
Speaker 3: just the release schedule, folks, And I don't think you
Speaker 3: want to see this.
Speaker 4: What it is is that, you know, the first week
Speaker 4: sales they like really mean a lot, and I think
Speaker 4: it's obviously it's all about the money, right, So they're
Speaker 4: just trying to get that did to create that big
Speaker 4: hype so that people are just looking at the listings
Speaker 4: and be like, oh, that's that's in the top, so
Speaker 4: that's the top five, top whatever, let's go check that out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the what was the one that, like
Speaker 3: Beetlejuice was gonna come out like with something else. They
Speaker 3: were saying, Oh, the new Beetlejuice movie. Might they might
Speaker 3: have something with that new Beetlejuice thing coming out at
Speaker 3: the same time as another movie. But I already forgot
Speaker 3: because it doesn't fucking matter. It's two movies fucking coming out, right.
Speaker 5: I vaguely remember it, though, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know that. I think. I'm sure there's
Speaker 3: already articles heralding like whatever you beatle former movie is
Speaker 3: or whatever the fuck we're gonna get.
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