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We are with you 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: for the next couple of hours, and we have a 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: lot to talk about here. We got we got the 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: officiating disaster that is the Dallas Mavericks against the Phoenix Suns. 20 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 1: We have all these competitive series. We got maybe the 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: weirdest interviews ever at a Formula one race, and do 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: we care about Formula One now that that part to 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: me is it is crazy. The MVP, of course has 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: been announced. Man, we got a lot to get to. 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Let's um, can we start with the Mavericks and the Suns? Ryan? 26 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: Is that okay with you? Yeah? Yeah, let's roll. Okay. 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: So look, this is this is something that has been 28 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: occurring much more, much more repetitively in the NBA than 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: I can ever remember. And that's where fans and their 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: actions are causing them to get ejected from from stadiums, 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: from arenas. And so what happened was yesterday during a game, 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: which I mean, really this is taking away from the 33 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: fact that that was an awful basketball game to watch. 34 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: The officiating was bad. But part of the reason the 35 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: officiating is is everybody's flopping and so it's really hard 36 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: to tell, like is that a foul? Is that? I like, 37 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: if they're all just falling down, you almost feel like, okay, 38 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: what if we called no fouls? If we called no fouls, 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: then he gets too physical and then everybody wants to 40 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: fight or somebody gets hurt. Right, Yeah, So apparently there's 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a heckler or what it was. 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: It was a young dude hoodie under jersey. He had 43 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: a little earring in the right ear Did you do 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: you ever rock the earring? No? No, I never had 45 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: the earring of Look no, no, hoop, Look it was 46 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: I think it was the it was the it was 47 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: the diamond, uh, diamond pendant, diamond stud or whatever. He 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: had the earring in the ear and uh, he on 49 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: some level either heckled or made contact with somebody of 50 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Chris Paul's family. Here's Charles Barkley after the game. Oh 51 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. All right, we'll get we'll get 52 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: to that. We'll get to that upcoming. First thing is 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: like that, I understand you don't want anybody touching anyone 54 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: in your family. I don't know what that all means, though, 55 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: Like do we know like was there like a legit 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: two hand push was there? Or is it like it's 57 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: people are close to each other and jostling. I have 58 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: no idea. I do know that like some of this 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: is fans step over the line. Some of it is 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: that players are way more sensitive to things being said 61 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: to them than they ever have been. So I guess Ryan, 62 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: the question is which do you think it's more of 63 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: I think that we've seen since COVID, fans have been 64 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: crossing the line. And I'll say this, when I played, 65 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: fans crossed the line, but you didn't always necessarily see it. 66 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: But I think, you know, think back like Trey Young, 67 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: the spitting in on him, that was like crazy, a 68 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: couple of things that have been built up towards, you know, 69 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: this villain narrative with Russell Westbrook, and then people feel 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: like because he you know, he's kind of opinionated, that 71 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: they can challenge him physically, verbally on the floor like 72 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: they feel like they have a bee with Russell Westbrook, 73 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: which is disgusting to me, like it's personal. And I 74 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: think just whatever happened, I hear just pushing of any 75 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: there's any contact from a fan at all to Chris 76 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: Paul's family, and I'm sure there was. I know Chris, 77 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: he wouldn't act in that behavior without it being such Oh, 78 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: I'd lose it. I'd lose my marbles if I saw 79 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: my family being touched, being pushed to any degree by anybody, 80 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: don't care if it's a middle school or with a 81 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 1: hoop in his earring. And let alone touch your mother 82 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: on Mother's Day, your wife on Mother's Day, it's on Chris. 83 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: Chris did pretty well to not be restrained, to be 84 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: restraint the way he was, So it's any excusable. But 85 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: I think to answer what you're saying, Doug, there's this 86 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: element had always been there, but there's a different level 87 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,119 Speaker 1: entitlement from the things I'm seeing today, a different element 88 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: time from the fans or from the players, from the fans. 89 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: From the fans to get more hands on, the fans 90 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: to feel more entitled. Yeah, I feel like they're more 91 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: part of the game or their mark. Yeah. I look, 92 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: I do think there's a little of that. I mean, 93 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: it's here's here's the progression of it, right. It started 94 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: with it started with message like message boards, right, and 95 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: work from message boards to whether it's read it or 96 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: then it worked its way towards Twitter and solved different 97 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: types of social media. I think the worst thing we 98 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: do in media, this is the absolute worst is and 99 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: it's more like e news and those types of shows. 100 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: The worst thing that we do is we put up 101 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: on screen somebody who average gell. That's the problem with 102 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: social about social media is the downfall of social media. 103 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: The great thing about social media is everybody is kind 104 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: of equal, but the truth is that everybody isn't equal. 105 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: Everybody's opinion doesn't matter. It just doesn't right, And now 106 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: Twitter tried to separate. Go, hey, there's blue checks. The 107 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: blue checks somehow matter. If you're not a blue check, 108 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: you don't matter. So that should be maybe at least 109 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: the line of who we pay attention to or what 110 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: we pay attention to. And I guess the problem with 111 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: that is that even the Kevin Durance of the world 112 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: or whoever else is a really powerful part of social 113 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: media when they see non blue check. But guys come 114 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: at them, or people come at them, they clap back 115 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: at them. Those people you have to they don't matter. 116 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: And if you make them matter, if you amplify their voice, 117 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: now the sudden they feel that they that's again that's 118 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: the device that that's the power of social media is 119 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: that it makes all of these people feel like they 120 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: belong in the conversation, they're part of the game there. 121 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: So I think that empowers them. Obviously, you know, you 122 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: put alcohol, you put the proximity to the chord or whatever. 123 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: But I would also tell you that because those voices 124 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: are amplified on social media, there's also the players who 125 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: gotta stop turning around. They got to stop reacting to people. 126 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: There's on every ticket you've ever gotten, there's the ability 127 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: for a player to just go you you're gone. That's it, 128 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: there's no question about it. If it really bothers, you 129 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: just go he's gone and then that's it, or you 130 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: just keep walking. You have to just keep playing. It 131 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: doesn't make it okay what people are saying, but the 132 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: reaction and the overreaction to those things, I think only 133 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: make it worse. Yeah. But here, well, here's an element there. 134 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: There's someone heckling you, there's someone saying something and whatever. 135 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 1: It's a part of the game. You hear him yelling, 136 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: you hear him chirping. Is not a big deal. And 137 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: I've had this situation before myself. All Right, cool, he's saying, 138 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: Nancy's saying this. Whatever. All right, we're competing. Maybe he 139 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: says something to you at the wrong time, irritates you, 140 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: all right. Part of the game, though, the fan starts 141 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: to amplify it to the next level. When you're hearing family, 142 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: when you're hearing your children, you're hearing your loved ones 143 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: brought into a matter. Now it's no longer sport, so 144 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: no players I don't think mine the original heckling though 145 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: you're not good, okay, you suck whatever, blah blah blah, 146 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: but the derogatory speech when you bring family in tune, 147 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: that's when people flip the switch and Doug, you know, 148 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: you played two or three quarters of a basketball game. 149 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: You're fired up, You're you're you're excited, You're in it. 150 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: You are at a physical peak, you are in war mode. 151 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: When people don't understand when you play in the NBA, 152 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: your instincts are almost like there are ten of ten. 153 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: You are running as fast as you can to dive 154 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: on a loose ball. You're jumping as high as you 155 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: could jump. There's a split second reaction where you're sprinting 156 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: back on defense. You are emotionally into it, Doug, and 157 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: you know what that's like. So when you walk to 158 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: the bench after a frustrating foul or play, emotions are 159 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: in it and someone says something foul to you. You 160 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: don't always have that level of respect where you're like, 161 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: oh man, you know, hey, security, come get this guy. 162 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: You may speak speaker clap back, and that's where teammates 163 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: come involved. So hey, I'll say it. I played with 164 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: Matt Barnes. I play with Boogie cousins, so I knew 165 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: if I would be on a bench or there and 166 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: someone was saying something, Boogie was charged up as a team, 167 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: and I jumped right in as a team, and I 168 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: jumped right in before something can go. So you also 169 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: got to take care of your brothers, you know. But 170 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: in the instance of Chris Paul, I don't care what's 171 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: going on. If you see your mother and your wife 172 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: having an altercation with any with anybody, let alone a 173 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: mail oh, I'm ready to go into the stands, and 174 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: you may not have the luxury to just say, ah, man, hey, security, 175 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: go take care of that guy. No, no, no no, no. 176 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: As a husband, you're going in there. I think it 177 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: was it Doug. Was it Antonio Daniels that that it 178 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: was when Chicago was sprinted up or I'm not sure. 179 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: You know he was playing for Chicago. I'm shore where 180 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: they were sprints it into the stands and it's like, 181 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: hey man, I saw this altercation. Forget the game. Yeah, 182 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: I don't think you go up in the stands that 183 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: that's nothing. Usually that nothing good happens there. I mean, look, look, 184 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: we've heard other things from from from players and they're 185 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: dribbling off the court, you know, telling guys who are 186 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: yelling at them from the sidelines, you know, giving it 187 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: right back to him. I'm just telling you, like, like 188 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: the these guys have rabbit ears, the players have rabbit ears, 189 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: and I have there's no doubt that there's incredible jealousy 190 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: from from people or they're just they're trying to rattle you. There. 191 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: There used to be a guy the Heckler. Do you 192 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: guys remember that there used to be at Heckler And 193 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: he went to Washington Bullets games, right, and he used 194 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: to sit there and the entire game he would heckle 195 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan the entire game. Now, I don't think it 196 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: rose to the level of necessary like cursing at him, 197 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: and maybe he didn't talk about his mom or whatever, 198 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: but like the entire game, that's what he would do. 199 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: He was kind of part of the NBA lure, if 200 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: you will. And so one of the things is a 201 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: lot of these guys have been brought up with kid gloves. 202 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean, like Kevin Durant's perfect example. I think Kevin 203 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: Durant went healthy the best player in the NBA. That's 204 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: my that's my personal opinion. I understand he didn't win 205 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: the MVP. I understand he didn't didn't get out of 206 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: the first round. That's my opinion. Guy, he didn't play, 207 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: didn't play well for the most part against the Boston Celtics. 208 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: They just loaded up against him. And that said, Kevin 209 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: Durant was in Oklahoma City. They're playing the Memphis Grizzlies 210 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He's not playing well. The Daily Oklahoman 211 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: at the time now called The Oklahomanhman puts out a headline, 212 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: mister unreliable, and the idea of it is, usually he's 213 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: mister reliable. In this series, he's unreliable. And there was 214 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: such a hubbub over it that the biggest newspaper in 215 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: the state issued a retraction over an opinion headline. Okay, 216 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: so the idea, the idea that we're creating a world 217 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: where you can't call a great basketball player who's usually 218 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: reliable unreliable in a sports headline is ridiculous. It's utterly, 219 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: incompletely ridiculous. But that's the bar that we set, and 220 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: so guys are treated with kid gloves, and so the 221 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: one time somebody else something at him, they freak out 222 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: when just like somebody that doesn't have a check by 223 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: their They don't matter. Now, I don't know what happened. 224 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: Somebody makes contact with the loved one of mine, obviously, okay, 225 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: but it didn't look like it wasn't like they were swinging. 226 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: It's it's some dude. He looks like he's in his 227 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: early twenties in the runt row watching the game. I 228 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't I have no idea what's happening. 229 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: But the idea that Chris Paul, who's playing game, Look, 230 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: he's frustrated because the officiating and the officiating is hard, honestly, 231 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: because Chris Paul does it just as much as anybody. Right, 232 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: he's he's a now a victim of the crimes that 233 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: he had previously committed. That's that's really what happens, you know. 234 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: And so it just it does feel like there's this 235 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: um amplified sensitivity from NBA guys specifically now. It also 236 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: feels like fan behavior is worse than ever. But some 237 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: of that is just the videos we see of fights 238 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: at games. Here's Charles Barkley on the incident with Chris 239 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: Paul's family. We could put it into all this stuff. 240 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: Some of this stuff. These fans say, let's take him 241 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: right down to center court for five minutes. I've always 242 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: said that some of the crap they said to you, Hey, 243 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: let's give me five minutes of center court. Intend say, 244 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: you ain't gonna press no charges. Nobody gonna get it, 245 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: and no, ain't nobody gonna be sued civilly, say what 246 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: you just said to me, right to my face, right 247 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: here for these five minute I'm gonna beat your ass, 248 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: beat the hell out take you five minutes. Oh no, 249 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my time. I'm not gonna beat them 250 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: up quickly. I'm gonna jab I'm a little bit, and 251 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay the hay Makers on the ass. Well, 252 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: obviously I hear you, Foreman, the big controls Foreman, in 253 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: the real world, in a real society, you know, other 254 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: than a gladdy area that no, we're pursing people. Happen, 255 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: We're pursing people. I mean, that's really what happened with 256 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: the Mouth of the Palace, right, you're hurt, Bill, You're 257 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: hurt Bill. Birds stand up thing, stand up on the 258 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: mouth of the Palace. You know, for how many years 259 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: people like come up here, come up here, and they 260 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: went up there, right, run our tests taking out rows 261 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: of people, right, that it's and that part is true. 262 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: That part is true. Sometimes people have a whipping coming, 263 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: tell right. But but but the problem is that again, like 264 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: we get to a point of sensitivity where guys get 265 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: super super rattled. You know, it's like fans are out 266 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: of line, but players overreacting is out of line as well. 267 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: And and and for whatever reason, there's a percentage of 268 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: people that see what happened in Dallas and it only 269 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: cranks them up. And we'd be remiss if we didn't 270 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: point out that Chris Paul was incredibly frustrated yesterday, right, 271 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: And when you're really really frustrated and you're losing, and 272 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: you feel like the whole world's against you, and then 273 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: you hear somebody yelling at you, and then you look 274 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: up and your family's arguing with some dude in the 275 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: stands Now, now all of a sudden, you're gonna you're 276 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: gonna react. So, yes, of course that would be amazing 277 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: if say it, say it to my face, like, I've 278 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: never understood how somebody can yell something vile at somebody. 279 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: So but it's the how many wrongs make a right 280 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: and obviously all this is aside from putting your hands 281 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: on anybody. But like again, we don't know what putting 282 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: your hands on somebody is. If you shove somebody, like, 283 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: all right, that's different. Then if you're sitting there and 284 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: you're off balance and you put your hand on somebody's shoulder, 285 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. There is no video of it. It's 286 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: not it's not. I'm not able to to honestly judge, 287 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: but I can tell you and I think this would 288 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: be realistic. Is fan behavior seems worse. Player reaction seems worse. 289 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: It seems seems more sensitive. Are those two things fair? Well, 290 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: let me ask this when you say player reaction they're sensitive. 291 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: Are you saying they're sensitive for overreacting, They're sensitive for 292 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: letting someone get to them? Like or is it the timing? 293 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: We're Luca going back to Luca and Phoenix, Lucas, Lucas 294 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: walking off the court in Phoenix when he was terrible 295 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: in the in the fourth quarter in the second half 296 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: against the Dallas Mavericks. Right, I'm excusing me against the 297 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: Phoenix Suns, yes, game game two. They're embarrassing him defensively, 298 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: he was awful, right, So he's walking off the court, 299 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: somebody from Phoenix says something to him. So instead of 300 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: just walking away, he turns and he reacts to somebody. 301 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: Now it might have felt the guy might have deserved reaction, 302 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,239 Speaker 1: the guy might have deserved an ask weapon. But the 303 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: second you turn around, there is a percentage of fans. 304 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm not one of them because I don't yell at dudes. 305 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: I know they're way better than I could ever have been, right, 306 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: and if they they play beat like I don't like, 307 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: why not just boo or cheer. I don't really understand 308 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: that right there, or even that you suck like you 309 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: don't actually suck, so like whatever. But the point is 310 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: that the second you turn and you react. Okay, now, 311 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: if every Phoenix fans like I got we got him, 312 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: just keep yelling at him. We got him, we got him, 313 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: We're we're in his head. So go ahead. Well let 314 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: me say this though, dope. You know, there's a difference 315 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: between hey Doug, gottlib you suck, and then there's a 316 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: difference between hey Doug, I'll whoop your blank blank blank, 317 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: Hey Doug, you're at this this this There are words 318 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: that you know, what like if someone says this to 319 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: you whether it's right or wrong, and obviously which was 320 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: As we mature, we know it's nothing, but it tells 321 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: you I want to fight. It's like a challenge. I'm 322 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: putting this on the table. It's a challenge to you. 323 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: This goes all the way back to medieval times of 324 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, having a stand up or fight for your 325 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: honor and someone puts a challenge in front of you 326 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: at the wrong time, and it's like, hey, I'm here, 327 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: I'd like to say I want to see what actually happened. 328 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 329 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Show week days at nine am Eastern six am 330 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart Radio WAP 331 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: What Up coome Morning to you Dan Patrick Show, Fox 332 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: Sports Radio the Great Ryan Hollins alongside him Doug Gottlieb. 333 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: We are taking you throughout the morning around the country, 334 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: giving you a sense of what's going on. I mean, look, 335 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: you had an incredible if one race at at in Miami, 336 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: which led to many of the drivers wanting the course changed. Okay, sure, uh, 337 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: you got major League Baseball. Nothing really jumped out the 338 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: charge except for Angels kind of winning games. That that's 339 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: just for me and my boy Ja stu Um and 340 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: then we'll get to the NBA in a second. Ryan, 341 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: did you watch the Kentucky Derby? I did not. I 342 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: saw some of the amazing outfits, but I did not 343 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: actually watch the derby. I saw, I saw the fits. 344 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: So I had a little bit of fomo fear of 345 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: missing out. Man. I wanted to be there. Have you 346 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: ever been? No, I have not. It's on my bucket list. 347 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: Oh it's it's great. I went in two thousand and eight, 348 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: in two thous then I got to go and it was. 349 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: It was incredible, incredible. I cannot imagine having been there Saturday. 350 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: So do you have do you do you know how 351 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: this all went down? No? No, no, no, okay. So 352 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: basically there was a twenty horse field, A one horse 353 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: pulled out scratched on Friday, so they added another horse. 354 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: That was that in terms of reputation, was not nearly 355 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: at the level of everyone else it was. It was 356 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: an eighty to one long shot, eighty to one rich 357 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: strike and this is one of those how I guess 358 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: the question would be, now, have you seen the replay 359 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: at all of the race? No? No, okay. So you 360 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: know they say horses for courses, and we use horse 361 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: racing analogy, you know, for for other things in life. 362 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: But basically what happened in the race, and most people 363 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: don't believe that the jockey like, well, you're just holding on, 364 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, and whoever has But there's an absolute art 365 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: to it for these jockeys to win multiple races, but 366 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: specifically one race. So um, rich Strike had the second 367 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: highest payout in the history of the race, one hundred 368 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: and sixty three dollars and sixty cents. Goodness, Okay, here's 369 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: the final call. Epicenter has taken the lead as they 370 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: arrive into the fuddle for long shame that's coming after him. 371 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 1: Epicenter a sanded please two stripe for striding simplification down 372 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: the outside of stakes. They're coming down to the water. 373 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: Epicenter has ended rich Strike's coming up on the inside. 374 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Oh god, goodness, the longest shot. That's what the Kentucky derby. 375 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: Rich Strike has done it in a stunning, un believable upset. 376 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it was kind of out of nowhere. The 377 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: horse seems smaller than the other horses. Epicenter is the favorite, 378 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: and so here's basically how the race went. They when 379 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: they reached the quarter pole, they were at ridiculous speed. 380 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: So that early speed it obviously tires out some of 381 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: the horses that are at the front, and the late 382 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: speed and horses that laid back in the cut had 383 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: a better shot. And then the jockey Sunny Leone, if 384 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: you watch in the drone footage, how he just kind 385 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: of kind of sat back, waited, waited, but had a 386 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: clean had a clean trip, and then at just the 387 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: right moment kind of started to go for it. And 388 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: it was like kind of Moses parting the Red Sea, 389 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: and he was able to be almost on the rail 390 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: the entire way and then edged out around one horse 391 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: and like out of nowhere, out of nowhere, But to 392 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: have an eighty to one shot that wasn't in the 393 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: race until Friday that they just threw in and comes 394 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: out of nowhere nowhere. I mean, it was just it's 395 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: it's one of those I understand that there are people 396 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: that struggle with it as a sport in comparison to 397 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: the human stick and ball sports, right, but I think 398 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: we can all wrap our head around that's like that's 399 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: a movie just took place, Like that's a movie. Well, 400 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: you're right, I got to learn more about that, they 401 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: probably will have a movie on or at least at 402 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: a worse at Netflix. A movie, right, and that's that's 403 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: kind of it's Netflix movie maybe better than box Office 404 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: movie or something in theaters now at the pace that 405 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: we're at. But now you're you're you're right, man. And 406 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: you know what I see obviously with with the Kentucky Derby. 407 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: The excitement is the gamble with it, and I think 408 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: that's something that the NBA, NFL, major League Baseball they're 409 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: adding in. But the excitement is the gambling, the experience, 410 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: the you know, the energy behind it. But I mean, Doug, 411 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: my goodness, eighty to one, No, you're you're right. That 412 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: is a movie. That is how did this happen? Someone's 413 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: losing their jobs. One is getting fired because this guy 414 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to win. I was unbelievable. Like I'm sitting 415 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: there watching, Um it's it's you're you're you're looking for 416 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: the al Michael's call. You know, do you believe in miracles? Yes? 417 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: Or or the uh? Was it? The the uh was it? 418 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: Jack buck right? Like I don't believe what I just saw. 419 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: I don't believe what I just that. That's exactly it 420 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: that this horse kind of came out of nowhere. And 421 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: you know, like when they're talking even before the races, 422 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: like literally nobody mentioned it. It's like, oh yeah, there's 423 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: rich strike, no shot, no shot, and they're just where 424 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Deary was. Incredible. Intelligence runs in the family. 425 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: Innovation runs in the family. Extraordinary runs in the family. 426 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: The twenty twenty two Mercedes Ben's range of SUVs every 427 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: member is waiting to in Prensler more at NUSA dot com. 428 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: Okay uh. Last night, the Philadelphia seventy six Ers took 429 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: down the Miami Heat. Um bam Adebayo was outstanding. Jimmy 430 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: Butler was outstanding. That was about it for the Miami Heat, 431 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 1: for the Miami For the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Some 432 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 1: guy named Harden. H James all right, No, James Harden, 433 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: who struggled throughout the playoffs, was great last night. Here's 434 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: Harden when he was asked about the difference with him 435 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: in Game four. That have to really changed, man, I 436 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: just I made some shots. That's that's I mean, obviously 437 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: I think it's a game changer, but just being being 438 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: aggressive in that fourth quarter, I think that that group 439 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: that started the fourth quarter did a really good job 440 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: of pushing the lead up and doing what we're supposed 441 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: to do. Here's hard and talking about the team settling in, 442 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: you know, think about we're still a fairly neuteam you 443 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: know what I mean? We're done in two months in so, um, 444 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: you know, when we finally catch a rhythm and finally 445 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: finally find something that works, you know, Joe goes out 446 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: for a couple of games. So, um, we're finally settling 447 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: into the series and we found some great things out 448 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 1: of worked tonight and that we can you know, capitalize 449 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: off game five. Um. Yeah, So so look I look 450 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: at this thing, and um, I thought to myself, this 451 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: is this is what happens with older players. Can't older 452 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: players can't do it as consistently every night. Hey, they 453 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: just cannot can't do it consistently every night, and but 454 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: every once in a while they can give it to you. 455 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Or as he somehow cracked the code? 456 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: I think James Harden and Doug I don't know if 457 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: we talked about this. James Harden is going to have 458 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: to find out who he is at this later stage 459 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: of his career. He can't be that same guy. And 460 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: I hate to say can't. I would just say it's 461 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: not realistic for him to be the same guy that 462 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: he was in Houston. But he's still a darned good 463 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: basketball player. And I think to Chris Paul, Chris reinvented 464 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: himself and figured I'd be the guy who gets us 465 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 1: to the fourth quarter when you need a clutch shot, 466 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: I'll take over and I'll kind of manage and control 467 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: the game and make sure that where everybody else is 468 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: in great position. I think obviously James and Chris are 469 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: two different players, but James is gonna have to find 470 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: himself as a ball player. And I think the gift 471 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: and the curse was in beat only missing those first 472 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: two games, them having to play without him and having 473 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: Joel come back. I don't want to say any living enroll, 474 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: but him kind of feeling his way back and hard 475 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 1: and feeling like, hey, it's go time, I gotta step up. 476 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: And I think it was an excellent mix of what 477 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 1: he needed. And there's an element where he's like, yeah, 478 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: I made shots, and Doug from his time in Houston, 479 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: I know from competing against James he would just kind 480 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: of shoot himself into games and he'd end up with, 481 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, forty points at the end of the game 482 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: and have these monster outbursts because you know, scoring threes 483 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,880 Speaker 1: is much quicker than twos. But that's something that we're 484 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: seeing from James that he didn't he did not have 485 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,719 Speaker 1: the luxury of having since he left Houston just shooting 486 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: himself into games. So he's got to find a way 487 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: to kind of be that guy and be efficient and 488 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: doesn't have the luxury to wait, dug, Yeah, I know, 489 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: it's it's it's really really it's it's really interesting, I 490 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: mean super interesting on the James Harden evolution, revolution, devolution, 491 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Obviously, if he can give you what 492 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: he gave you last night, you're never gonna lose your 493 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: passing skills and the shooting you would expect to kind 494 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: of come around as you find rhythm. The difference is, 495 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: you know, because he's always been a guy that's been 496 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: able to get into a defense. I think the way 497 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: in which he was officiated this year hurt him. The 498 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: way which the NBA was officiated this year hurt him. 499 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: He's never been particularly good in the playoffs because the officiating, 500 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: uh takes away a lot of those. You know, he's 501 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: the he's the ultimate guy who throws his head back, 502 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: throws the ball into people, you know, and draws vowels. 503 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: But he hasn't looked right. He hasn't looked he hasn't 504 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: looked sharp in any way. So yeah, I h I 505 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: think that's I think that's very very interesting on if 506 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: he's able to kind of capitalize on this positive momentum. 507 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: That's that's that that that that's kind of my thought 508 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: there as well. I just I don't know if we 509 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: can depend upon James Harden. And then the irony is 510 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: they're going back to Miami, a place that you go 511 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: back to when he was in the NBA Finals with 512 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. That dude likes to go out, right. Does 513 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: he go out and do the get the South Beach 514 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: flu again or does he lock in and they take 515 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: advantage of evening up this series? What about Miami? Are 516 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: they are they phonies or they for like, what what 517 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: do we make of Miami? Now? They're just a good 518 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: basketball team? Does like where he's seeing a competitive series. 519 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: They're a good basketball team. They're hard nos um. I 520 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: like to say that Jimmy Butler is a like a 521 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: like a substitute teacher, a substitute superstar, because anybody who 522 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: can score fifty in the NBA Finals is definitely a 523 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: superstar and and and kind of achieved the things he does. 524 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: But it's he's not just I'm not gonna say Jimmy 525 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: Butler's Lebron or Kevin Durant or Steph Curry. No, he's 526 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: not that, but he can fill those shoes and Miami there, 527 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: it's it's hard knows man. We're about to see the 528 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: chess match. And I don't think by any means they're 529 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: a bad basketball team, but the reality is they don't 530 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: have a Joel Embiid. Okay, Bio is good, but he's 531 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: not Joel Embiid. And I can save into a degree 532 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: Doug from what we saw last night. They don't have 533 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: a James Harden. They don't have a guy that can 534 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: be James Harden. They can make life hard on James Harden, 535 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: but they don't have a James Harden. So the star 536 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: power is with Philly, and that's the intrigue there. But 537 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: the grittiness, the consistency is with the Heat. So you know, 538 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: now SPO's gonna have to do his job. But that's 539 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: not the That team is not as talented as Philadelphia. 540 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: And I don't think that's any disrespect to Miami. They're 541 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: just a really good, tough basketball team the way Miami 542 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: likes it. Yeah, I just don't know they can they score? 543 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: What about what about Kyle Lowry? Like, I know he's 544 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: got a bad hamstring, but man, he did not Hayden 545 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: look great. Kyle competes. The one thing I've always said, 546 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: Kyle's a guy against my entire career. I'm excited for him. 547 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: I talk to him we're out in Miami. Kyle competes. 548 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: Kyle brings that Kyle knows who he is. So Kyle 549 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: may go into a game and have zero points, it's 550 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: not something to France. It's not something to say, oh 551 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: my goodness, what's wrong with Kyle Lowry and Kyle LAWI 552 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: may score thirty points and take your last shot and 553 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: make it, but Kyle competes, So you know you're gonna 554 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: have to temper your expectations of what Kyle can be. 555 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: And he means so much to where the team is 556 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: in the spot where they are because of his toughness, 557 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: because of his greediness, because he does all those little things, 558 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: and he understands who he is and he's gonna draw 559 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: those Chris Paul like fouls. Laurie though, that heady point 560 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: guard play bring consistency, but you can't go to Kyle. 561 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: But like, hey man, like you know, we need fifteen 562 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: or twenty tonight, he can give it to you. But 563 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: it's not just a foregone conclusion that that's going to 564 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: be there from him. But he is definitely a backbone 565 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: of your team. Like how we'll talk about Draymond, he's 566 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: similar to a Draymond at the point guard position, you know, 567 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: in the sense that you're not always going to expect 568 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: the points, but he's going to do a lot of 569 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: the glue plays that you're gonna get, and unlike Dreymond, 570 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: he can go and score at thirty point or twenty 571 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: point outing. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 572 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at 573 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: Fox sports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 574 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Search f SR to listen live Doug Gollie, Bryan Hones 575 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: and for Dan Dan as Dan Patrick Show Fox Sports Radio. 576 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: All right, um, let's let's let's get to Let's get 577 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: to the game yesterday before we get to John rand 578 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what to do here, right, 579 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: Like I mean, like Luca is like, we're in this 580 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: generation of basketball where guys have always they used to 581 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: do to throw the head back every time, and it 582 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: looks like you're got fouled. So you're like, oh, like 583 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: you wins right and solely, but surely the NBA officials 584 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: and officials in college bastival gotten smart to be like, yeah, 585 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 1: that's not a foul. Okay. They started with the flop 586 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: warnings in college basketball. They do the fines in the NBA. 587 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: But it's really really hard to tell if every time 588 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: anybody comes near anybody else something, they fall down and 589 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: act like they got killed, right, I mean, it's just 590 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: like you have to you actually they're actually such good 591 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: actors that you you have to look at it twice. 592 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: You're like, wait, nothing happened there nothing or if there 593 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 1: is a little contact, like it's a little contact and 594 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: it's just they call you selling the contact. It was 595 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: the worst watch I've ever seen. I've never seen a 596 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: debacle like that. The officials were awful. Like Chris Paul 597 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: had a couple of fouls. You're like, what, like other 598 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: not a fact, like what On the other hand, Chris 599 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: Paul very much part of the problem for a long time. 600 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: So it's like, well he got what was coming to him, Okay, 601 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: but this is to decide an NBA championship, something that 602 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: he has never truly been until last year in position 603 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: to win. Lucas a great player. A great player, he 604 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: uses off arm as like it's like the Heisman right 605 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 1: when he's driving, he's stick on stiff arms. Dudes, he 606 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: gets anywhere near to touch and you would think somebody 607 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: took a sledgehammer to his face. And so it's really 608 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 1: it's just the officials are an impossible situation. So between 609 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 1: the flopping and how good the selling and the acting 610 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: is the officials and then the number of replays where 611 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: you get leg let's go to the monitor to see 612 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: if there's a flagrant foul. You're like, oh god, that 613 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: was the worst thing that was. That was a complete 614 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: debacle for the NBA to turn on a Sunday afternoon 615 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: game on Mother's Day when there's nothing really else on 616 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: and to watch that crap Like I don't know, Ryan, 617 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: I like and please don't think I don't love and 618 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: respect NBA basketball or love and respect the talent, especially 619 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: of those two. Those guys are as good at what 620 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: they do as anybody has ever been at what they do. 621 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: But that was awful, just awful. Well, Doug, do you 622 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 1: want to hear why it happens? Yes, I think you 623 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: alluded to it. Um. First off, you hit it right 624 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: on the head. Chris. Chris is the reason this is happening. 625 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: And I played with Chris and I was, for the 626 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: most part, on the right side of the things he did. Okay, 627 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: But what happens is after there's a game that goes on, 628 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: and Chris made Chris made draw fifteen to twenty fouls 629 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: a game, He's gonna he's gonna dart your foule out, 630 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: your whole your whole backcourt. Okay, that's just what he does. 631 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 1: And especially if he's playing against a younger, more inexperienced player, 632 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna get the best of him. Chris plays the 633 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: cerebral game, the mental game behind the scenes. He's not 634 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: a huge guard, and he becomes really efficient when you 635 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: can't put your hand ends on him. So after the game, 636 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: especially with Mark Cuban, who is behind if I'm not mistaken, 637 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: behind the creation of Synergy. And for people who don't 638 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: know why Mark Cuban got behind Synergy, is because he 639 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: was one of the first, or if not the first, 640 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: that would send in the clips after the game to 641 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: the NBA and say, hey, you guys missed ten fouls 642 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: that would have changed the trajectory of our game. So 643 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: then Mark Cuban goes over the top create Synergy, and 644 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: now there's a whole video software platform that everybody uses 645 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,240 Speaker 1: in the league. So as it comes around today, after 646 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: a game, you send in the miss plays and the 647 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: league will respond to you and say, hey, yeah, we 648 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: missed ten fouls, we missed twenty fouls whatever to have 649 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: decided the game. And that normally doesn't become public knowledge 650 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: unless if it happens on a significant play that you 651 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: know ends or determines the game. The league won't really 652 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: try to make a public statement. But behind the scenes 653 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: you will see that Chris Paul had fouled or grabbed 654 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: or held you know, fifteen times. Players are different scenarios, 655 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: and what you now see is that, hey, Chris is 656 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: getting away with murder. He's getting away with murder. So 657 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: now there's an eye on Chris Paul. And what I 658 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: saw from the foul's dug that I agree looked pretty egregious. 659 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: Maybe his hand was in the cookie jar and a 660 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: few of them, but he did foul. He did create 661 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: an unfair advantage. The referees are coming in with a 662 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: target on Chris Paul to now look for him, and 663 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: that's what we saw. And going into a playoff game 664 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: as a guy who has experience in playoff games. Though 665 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: Chris Paul, by the way, but I know you put 666 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: in your heart in your mind, I'm gonna get two 667 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: felonious calls. There's gonna be two calls that are gonna 668 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: be felonious, dug, and they're not gonna make sense. They're 669 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: completely gonna be against me. They're not gonna make any 670 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: sense in the world. So I can't get those first 671 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: two silly ones. I can't get two silly ones because 672 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get two other felonious ones that I had 673 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: nothing to do with me, that I was just a 674 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: casualty of being there. And that's how we come to 675 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: a situation, Doug, where you feel like we got some 676 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: unwatchable basketball. But if you're a Dallas Mavericks fan, you're 677 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: probably like, hey, we beat Chris Paul at Chris Paul's 678 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: own game. This is Jason Kidd on Chris Paul and 679 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: the foul calls. When we talk about, you know, CP 680 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: understand when the teams are in the bonus. I thought 681 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: Jab and Luca and those guys did a really good 682 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: job of understanding when we were in the bonus. And 683 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: so I think we're being taught by one of the 684 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: best point guards ever. I'm on the other side of 685 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: how to do things, and that's pretty cool this time 686 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah. So he's saying, like, look, we're 687 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: just using your own tactics against you. Here, here's Luca 688 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: talking about exchange with Chris Paul on the rebound foul 689 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: at the end of the first half. I mean, that's 690 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: all he was going for the room when I was surprising. 691 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: Then he said, he said to me, if I pushed him, 692 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 1: that's hard, he said, I said, no, not that hard. 693 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: But it was a smart brand he saying, yeah, I know. Yeah, 694 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: Like look and I do understand, and I mean, but 695 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: just some of this stuff is so bad. The foul 696 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: where he cut off who was it he cut off? 697 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: He got the ball on a rebound and he cut 698 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,720 Speaker 1: off Jalen Brunson, and it's that move where you stop 699 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: and then he runs into you and try and get 700 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: a foul call. Right, And that's a point of emphasis 701 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: from the NBA officials. I understand point of emphasis. That's 702 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: for the regular season, the preseason, the regular season, in 703 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,959 Speaker 1: the postseason. It should be like just and the point 704 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: of emphasis. The intent is not just to stop them 705 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,479 Speaker 1: from doing it, but for the stop the offensive player 706 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: from getting a foul call in that So the very 707 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: the easiest way to do it is just play on. 708 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: They just play on, which has been the case in 709 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: most of these NBA series, which is you know, like 710 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: you go back to Celtics and Nets and that was 711 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: a series in which they just let him play. Now 712 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: there wasn't. There's not as much flopping from Kevin Durant 713 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: or flopping from Jason Tatum, or flopping from Jaylen Brown. 714 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: But it is really really interesting that that here's Chris Paul, 715 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: who of course is known for this, and he ends 716 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: up you know, they beat him at his own game. 717 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: That's really what happened. No, Doug, no Doug, I gotta 718 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: cut you off now, I gotta call your bluff on this. 719 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: That play as you talked about, unwatchable basketball is one 720 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: of the most disgusting in sports. That's the equivalent of 721 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: We're driving on the street and I swerve in front 722 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: of you, but I don't touch you, and I slam 723 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: on my brakes, and if you don't slam on your 724 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: brakes simultaneously with simultaneously with me and I get rear ended. 725 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: This is now your fault. But I initiated all of 726 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: the contact, and I want the blame to go on 727 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: you who rear ends me, or as you say, play on, 728 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: no big deal, It's an accident, like like going in 729 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 1: the backcourt. We actually lost this series against okay See, 730 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: and we were up okay See with the Clippers and 731 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: Chris went to Chris his instincts kicked in at the 732 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: wrong time and he went to do it and he 733 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,760 Speaker 1: ended up he just threw the ball in air. Something happened. 734 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: We lost something. Unfortunately. I don't want to bring that 735 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 1: up with Shirt's a sore spot for Chris, but it's 736 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: it's one of the most disgusting plays that ends up 737 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: being called a foul. But Brunson tried to get away 738 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: from him. It's it's horrible, and he got penalized for it. 739 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: But I get the idea. It is a smart play 740 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 1: because you draw a foul in the back court. Everyone's careful. 741 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: I played with Chris, it's happened for me. I played 742 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: against Chris, it's happening against me. He's personally and that 743 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: is absolutely right. What Lucas saying Chris in the middle 744 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: of the game would come if I was on another 745 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: team and had a good possession on him and you know, 746 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: hand my hands out the cookie jar everything. Did you 747 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: foul me? Oh man, that was good defense, good job there. 748 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: Here was grade the referees in front of you and say, 749 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: oh man, that was a smart play. Hey man, get 750 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: your hand out of there, because I'm gonna get that 751 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: foul called. And Brunson, who I like to say, is 752 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: a dog, Doug with the W G on it end 753 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: not DG. Brunson is a dog. He's gonna get a 754 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: big payday. As we see, it became personal with Chris. 755 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: They were playing this point guard chess match, and it's 756 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: funny you talk about the unwritten rules of basketball. Jason Kidd, 757 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: a former team out of like one of the best 758 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 1: of the best. Jason Kidd understands the point guard battle 759 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: and he's behind the scene saying, yeah, don't foul him up, 760 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: run into him, yup, attack him. Hey when he when 761 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: he makes contact with you, you go ahead and take it. 762 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: Don't fight against them and get those plays called. So 763 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: doug he Jason Kidton knows the unwritten rules. And this 764 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: is a big part of Phoenix because with no Chris Paul, 765 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: they were they played hard, they played together, but they 766 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 1: weren't it they weren't in sorts and you saw it. Yeah, 767 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: it's it was. It's a hard watch, just a hard, 768 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 1: hard watch. And what ends up happening is now that 769 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: series is it too Obviously you still think that Phoenix 770 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: uh is in the driver's seat, playing at home. But 771 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 1: also the longer the series goes on, the other thing 772 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: that Chris Paul's known for is the possibility of injury. Right, 773 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: I mean that he's he's in his late thirties. So 774 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: then the other question of the day is John Morant 775 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 1: and the knee grab from Jordan Pool. Here's Jordan Poole 776 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 1: describing the play where Rant got hurt. Yeah, I mean 777 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: there's a basketball player when we when we doubled him 778 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 1: and I hit the ball and I was going for 779 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: the ball. I mean, obviously, I don't want to see 780 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: anybody get hurt. I'm not even that type of player. 781 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: I respect everybody, So I mean, obviously, hopefully we get better, 782 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 1: hopefully he gets better, and um, you know, we can 783 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: see him out there in his game. But I don't 784 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: even play like that for real. That's not my type 785 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,240 Speaker 1: of game. Here's Jordan Pool when asked about John Morant's tweet, 786 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: which he later deleted, that said that Pool broke the code. 787 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: I guess Sean did tweet broke the code with a 788 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,959 Speaker 1: video of that. In response to them, we had another 789 00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 1: game on my day. You've seen the like you've played 790 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: in the league. What'd you think? I ain't like it 791 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: at all. I don't. I don't know. I don't think 792 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: Jordan Pool was just trying to hurt him. But it 793 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: was a little bit of in my mind, Doug. And 794 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: you know this because if there's eyes on you, oh man, 795 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: let me let me snik my hand into the cookie job. 796 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: I'm halfway in. I'm not all the way in. Let 797 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: me He didn't just rip Jaw's knee. He didn't do that. 798 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: But let me give you a little twins. Let me 799 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: give you a little show you a little love, and 800 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: I think that there's a little bit of truth in 801 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: every lie and that come on, man, you don't he's 802 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: double teaming him and he's like, oh, I'm gonna grab 803 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:37,399 Speaker 1: his knee here, Doug. Have you ever accidentally grabbed a knee? Doug, 804 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: you were a good dog. You have a reputation, you 805 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: were a good defender. You were a dog. You're a dog. 806 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,800 Speaker 1: I have no idea. In super slow mo like things 807 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: look no different. But Doug, have you ever grabbed a knee? 808 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that's something accidental? Have you ever grabbed 809 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: maybe a hip, maybe a shoulder, maybe an arm? Have 810 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: you ever grabbed a knee? Doug? I don't believe I 811 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: have because and that's where as a former player men, 812 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: you have to step in and say no, I didn't 813 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,439 Speaker 1: think he punched his leg. I didn't think there's something 814 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: really demonstrative. But you don't accidentally grab a knee, like 815 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, that's the sensitive area for every ball player, 816 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 1: Like Doug, I didn't like that. When the doctors, you know, 817 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: the little the little check up where they hit you 818 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: on the top of the knee, I'm like, dude, They're like, 819 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: did that hurt. I'm like, nah, I just don't want 820 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 1: you to touch in my knee. It's it's a sensitive 821 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: area and I'm not saying that hurt John Morant. I 822 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: think ultimately the mindset to wear down John Morant is 823 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: John Morant gonna score forty seven points in another basketball 824 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,840 Speaker 1: game for the rest of this series. That's gonna be 825 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: tough to see. He's gonna need help. But that's what 826 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: you look in and say, Yeah, we're gonna wear him down. 827 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: I think that's more of what we're seeing. But as 828 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 1: far as Jordan Pull, I think his hand was halfway 829 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,880 Speaker 1: in the cookie jar Man, I think it's ridiculous. I 830 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 1: think you think in the middle of a game, they're 831 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: double teaming the best player and the other team and 832 00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: he's like, Ooh, I'm gonna grab his knee and just 833 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: pull his knee. Horrible reaction. I've had him. I've done 834 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: him myself. Horbor reaction. I've tripped guys, I've done dirty stuff. 835 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what goosey through your head. Pull is 836 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: a young Blair Horber reactions shouldn't have done it that. 837 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: I think he just went full Montage is all in it. No, 838 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,719 Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I think it's kind of inexcusable, duck, 839 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: because we can both sit back and part ourselves and 840 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't grab your knee like I wouldn't, and maybe 841 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: he would just show want him a little love, but 842 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't. And I don't think Paul wants Jah out 843 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: at all. But hey man, it's it's playoff basketball, dude. 844 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb And and Ryan holl I just I don't 845 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: understand how in the middle of a game, in the 846 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: middle of a double team, you're like, oh, I'm gonna 847 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,600 Speaker 1: grab a guy's knee. I feel like you reach for 848 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: the ball, you come back, you catch somebody's knee, and 849 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: that that that's that, That's what happens. You can give 850 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: us your thoughts at Ryan Holland, Ryan what what's the Twitter? 851 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: The Ryan Hollands, The Ryan Hollins at Gottlieb show is mine. 852 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 1: Of course, you can do it on my Facebook page 853 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: or I g as well. Coming up next, Moron John 854 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: Morant missing time in this series and what it means 855 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 1: for the Grizzlies. Plus did you hear who's gonna win 856 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: the MVP of the NBA. We'll tell you next to 857 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,879 Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio,