WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 060422 Did Police Really Just Stand There While Children Were Shot? (Part 1) 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.880 Yeah, that's right, y'all. Welcome to another episode of Civic Cipher. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:05.680 I'm your host Rams this jah. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:08.959 You know, usually I'm Q Ward, but today I am 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:10.039 Grayson's father. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.599 Yeah, stick around your radios because we have a lot 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.520 to talk about, a lot of which will bring some 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:25.520 context to that statement Q just made. In addition to that, 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:34.879 it is now a week and some change since the shooting, 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:40.600 the massacre in Uvalde, Texas, they claim the lives of 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:44.279 nineteen school children, and we have a lot more information 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.519 for those that listened to the last week's episode, you know, 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:51.239 we we had limited information going into that, but we 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.160 have a lot more that we need to break down 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:57.160 and really re examined. Uh, And we're going to take 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.840 the second half of the show and really take a 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:04.560 medical look at what public safety means, and what our 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.119 values are and what our priorities are as a society, 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:12.479 as a people as you know, you know, different tribes 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:16.480 with different concerns and so forth, and of course this 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.240 is a place to have those conversations, so definitely be 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:24.400 sure to stick around for that. We're also going to 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:28.720 breathe some life into Memorial Day. We know it's passed, 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.440 but because of the way the scheduling of the show works. 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.440 We didn't want to just not you know, give any 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.160 shine to it. So we're going to take some time 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:42.240 to over to dig into the overlooked black history of 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.760 Memorial Days. So forgive us for being tardy on that. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.000 But as you know, sometimes we have to respond to 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:50.760 things that are timely in the news, which makes us 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.400 have to adjust what we talk about. But that doesn't 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.480 mean that the adjustments means that the things we've adjusted 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.720 are less important. So again, a lot to stick around 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:04.600 for the first and foremost, let's talk about some ebony excellence. 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:08.680 Let's start off on a high. How you feeling you shall? 0:02:08.720 --> 0:02:08.800 We? 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:15.640 We shall? So this one comes from Black Enterprise, the 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:22.239 founder of Slutty Vegan Restaurant gifts LLCs to entire Clark 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:26.000 Atlanta's class of twenty twenty two. Now let me bring 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:27.400 you up to speed. For those that don't know what 0:02:27.440 --> 0:02:32.000 Clark Atlanta is, it is a historically Black college and 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.760 we shorten that to HBCU, which stands for historically Black 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:43.200 college or university. So again, the restaurant owner, Aisha Pinky Cole, 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.200 surprised over eight hundred graduates of our alma mater Clark 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:50.480 Atlanta University with a kickstart to launch their own businesses. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.640 The Slutty Vegan CEO spoke to the class of twenty 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:56.040 twenty two during their commencement ceremony on Saturday and gifted 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.799 the entirety of the class a limited liability company or LLC. 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.240 This is according to Fox five reports. They're based in 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.639 Atlanta as well. Here's a quote. I have partnered with 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.880 Vobank to provide every single graduate in this attendance with 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.519 a new LLC and a path to entrepreneurship. And quote 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.880 Cole said before the uproar of the clause, and she 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.920 resumes every single graduate in this audience will leave this 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:24.280 stadium as a business owner, she proclaimed for a press 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:26.679 release from the university. Cole graduated in two thousand and 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:30.600 nine with the major in Mass Communications slash Media Studies. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.040 She was clowned Miss Clark Atlanta during her undergrad in 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:37.280 two thousand and eight and initiated into Delta Sigma Theta 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:43.160 Sorority Sigma chapter. So we wanted to take a moment 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:48.480 to shout out some Ebony excellence and some black entrepreneurship, 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.520 and of course this is the place to do it 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.800 and so once again we're shouting out Ayisha Pinky Cole, 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:59.560 aka the founder of Slutty Vegan Restaurant, and we definitely 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:08.240 want to see that now. As we mentioned last week, 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:15.920 we had to have a very difficult conversation about gun 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:22.800 violence in this country. I personally invited my child, my 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.799 seven year old, to sit in with us. The reason 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.919 for that is he is approximately the age of the 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:34.880 students that lost their lives in Texas and I had 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.479 to have a conversation with my son. I felt like 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:41.880 doing it on the air might help some folks who 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:47.560 might have some difficulty broaching that subject with their own children. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.240 And I talked to my son, who lives in a 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.760 care free world. You know, these things, these problems don't 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:56.000 exist in his mind. As you remember it too, and 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.280 as you were deeply troubled by. You know, the first 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:04.159 question I asked him was, baby, do you know that 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.880 sometimes people get guns and go into schools and shoot children, 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:14.000 to which he replied no. And I want to be clear, 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:19.160 I was not trouble that these things don't exist in 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:24.120 his world. I was troubled because they have to thank 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:32.760 you for them. Well, that is, if we boil it 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:36.400 down that is a Ramses problem, right. I wanted to 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.240 share that with everyone, But you know, if you could 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.520 make a case for that being a problem, that is 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.800 just my problem that I have to deal with with 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.479 my children and my home, and everyone else has to 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.080 have that conversation on their own, and that's the way 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.839 it goes. Well, today we're going to have a conversation 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:58.800 about what is decidedly the US problem. It involves all 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.480 of us. It involves our votes, it involves our voices, 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:06.320 it involves us putting pressure on our elected officials. It's 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:11.200 about us taking a stand and changing the culture, changing 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.320 the narrative in our day to day lives in our communities, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:22.760 in our cities, and in our countries. And one of 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:25.640 the things that I think may serve as a catalyst 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:32.960 to this is what we now know happen in Texas, 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:38.440 where when you say catalysts expound a bit. I know 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.960 that I'm an optimist, so catalyst might be a strong word. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:47.960 But on this show, if you're a longtime listener to 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:52.560 this show, you know that we bring light to a 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.080 lot of myths that are associated with policing in this country. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.920 More police officers makes us safer, right, very much? A myth. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.440 You know, the only thing that can stop a good 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.520 guy with a gun is a bad or sorry, the 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:08.120 only thing that can stop a bad guy with a 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.960 gun is a good guy with a gun. Myth. Police 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:18.800 are heroes largely a myth with some examples that actually do. 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:21.760 They are heroic, and we've talked about them on this show. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:25.400 They have some people are heroes. Some people there we go, 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.040 they just will happen to be officers. Right, that's a 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:31.640 great way. Occupation itself does not make you inherently heroic. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:38.239 And that's exactly what we're going to talk about today. Again. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.200 If you're a longtime listener of this show, you know 0:07:40.280 --> 0:07:48.240 that we shed light on a lot of the terror 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:54.560 that is endured by black and brown communities at the 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.040 hands of police. A lot of it is unfair, a 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.960 lot of it is unfounded, a lot of it is unnecessary. 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.280 I'm not trying to say that all people in all 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:07.280 black and brown communities or other marginalized communities are innocent. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:11.080 I would never say that. But on this show we 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:17.280 look at things from often a societal point of view. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:22.320 We look at systemic issues. Granted, we use specific examples 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:28.520 to bring those issues to light. But the fact remains 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.280 is that we deal with numbers, we deal with statistics 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:40.480 and so forth, and so in Texas, we learned that 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:46.320 there were conflicting reports, but we learned that the police 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:51.120 took some time to engage the shooter. MS. You are 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:52.400 the most kind. 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:56.280 I'm setting you up, gracious human I've ever encountered. I 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.040 just want to say that out loud so people can 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:03.440 hear it again. And I'm setting you up because I 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:07.760 know that you have some thoughts here. 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:20.959 But yes, that seems to be the most what's the 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:29.320 word I'm looking for, alarming unsettling element. We know there 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:35.040 are several. That's the most alarming because you have a 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:40.360 police force, right, you know, the people that get all 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:43.679 the support from the right and from the you know, 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:45.840 all the trucks with the flags on and everybody with 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.840 the flags, and that flag that is an abomination and 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.360 goes against flag code. If you have a gray and 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.640 black flag with a blue stripe that looks like the 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.520 American flag bat actually goes against the US flag code. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.800 I'll say it as often as I can for all 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:08.679 you patriots out there. But yeah, we have a police 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:16.120 force here who in twenty eighteen were outfitted with bulletproof vest. 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.640 They got more money, not just vest, good body armored, 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.040 body army. That's what I wanted to say, rifle stopping 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.600 body armor to be specific. So they that police force 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:33.680 was funded, not defunded. That police force was funded. That 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.600 city's budget budget, the police force. 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.880 There you go, Okay, of the whole budget for the 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.640 whole city went to the police officers. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:49.080 Thank you for saying that, and goodn'ts gracious? They had 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:52.280 an active shooter in the school, multiple nine one one 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:57.800 calls made. I've read reports that said they stood outside 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:59.679 of the school as long as ninety minutes. I've read 0:10:59.679 --> 0:11:02.920 reports just said parents actually jumped the fence escape police 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:07.080 custody because police were arresting parents for trying to motivate 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.480 them to go in and stop the shooter as he 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:15.200 was executing their children. And what it boiled down to 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.800 is the police were afraid, you know, they weren't kicking 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:22.040 in the door of guns blazing, where's the bad guys 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.880 shoot them up? Risking their own lives, you know, heroic stuff. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:30.480 They were being humans, and they were you know, probably 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:34.679 had ninety minutes to debate their own mortality, right as 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.920 you do when there's someone with a semi automatic rifle 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:40.360 and you know, on the other side of a fence 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:49.200 executing children. And what we learn is that, you know, 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:51.680 I think that a lot of these stories that have 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.640 come out really cut police down the sides. Police as 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.920 a as a concept. All the training in the world, 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.000 all of the you know, all this sort of stuff 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.520 doesn't prevent you from being human, you know what I mean, 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.200 from being afraid, right, And you don't get to be 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.880 a hero and wait outside while children are getting murdered. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.199 That's like the opposite of a hero. That's like, that's 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:17.480 the most extreme case of the opposite. Yeah, exactly. You 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.439 can hear and see. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.000 And you're stopping the people from going getting their own children. 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.880 And it's important to point out third graders because some 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.640 people hear children and think teenagers and that would still 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:36.000 be awful, but we're talking about eight year olds again, 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:42.679 very very close to at Anya's age. Yeah, babies steal. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:52.280 Now back to blue, right. There are people who will. 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:56.360 Say, well, that's one police force underneath one chief, under 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.840 one department, and not all police forces are like that. 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:00.959 There are going to be more hero examples, and I 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:11.640 would challenge that because what we're seeing is it's a 0:13:11.679 --> 0:13:15.960 testament to the opposite. You know, anyone who subscribes to 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.600 a detached, separate reality from the one that we're all 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:24.079 living in is writing a story for their own purposes. 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.640 There's confirmation bias, or it's not even confirmation bias. It 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:31.880 is a I forget what it's called. When when you're 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.600 you're confronted with the truth and your brain cannot allow 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.880 you to receive it because it goes against what your 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:40.600 truth already is. Right, you're confronted with new information that's 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.520 that flies in the face of what you know, you 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.040 have known to be true up until that point. There's 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.880 a term for it, but it escapes me right now. 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:50.840 But the long and the short of it is that 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.800 what we have to do now is examine. Okay, so 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.320 what does this mean? What is the point of a 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.599 police department? But really, what is the point of a 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:06.240 police department if not to stop people from shooting babies? Right, 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.520 to run into a school? You know, fire fire department? Right, 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:12.520 we know what the point of a fire department is. 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.880 They run into a burning building, right, they put the 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.280 fire out, They save your property, they save lives, they 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:20.600 do whatever they can, right, but it's immediate. You have 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.440 to be on top of it. You can't sit outside 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.960 and be like, oh, you know, it's it's it's a 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.640 little hot in there. I'm gonna just wait out here 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.240 for a few minutes until it's a little bit more, 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:34.080 you know, comfortable, till till my blood has become acclimatized. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.400 You know, it doesn't work that way. If that were 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.200 the case, then everyone would be fired and we would 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:44.640 really think, rethink what fire safety meant. Right, But we 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:52.840 have this sort of binary mentality in this country where 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.320 and I'll be honest and I'll be to the point 0:14:58.320 --> 0:14:59.880 this time because I do like to speak in co 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.960 sometimes or be cryptic because I don't want to offend anybody. 0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:07.000 But what I've learned in my nearly forty years of 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:11.680 living on this planet is that and I've seen this 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.520 about history because I've had to obviously, I've studied a 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:16.400 lot of history, not just during the show, but just 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:24.600 being me that there is oftentimes in this binary society 0:15:24.720 --> 0:15:34.880 that we live in, there is a progressive group of people, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:40.120 people that feel like we can be better, we can 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:42.520 move forward, we can aspire to do more, we can 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:47.800 grow a lot of times black folks and people who 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:52.760 empathize and sympathize with the plight of black and other 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:56.960 marginalized folks fall into that category. And then there is 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:02.480 just opposition. Right, some folks would say, no, that's conservative. 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:05.280 They want to keep things as they are, no actively 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:09.960 opposing anything that changes the way that things are right 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:14.600 now right, and as you mentioned quite often Q, even 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.080 if it goes against their own interest. And I think 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:21.160 that nowadays we see it more than ever because we 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:25.560 saw to be fair. I just saw clips and watch 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.960 the whole thing. But at the nra A convention, you know, 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.400 people like Ted Kruz, who you know, a lot of 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:34.520 folks hung this most recent shooting on him and his 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.720 policies and his beliefs. He's one of the biggest recipients 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:44.160 of funds, campaign funds from the gun lobby. Mitch McCollum, 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:53.320 of course, the former president. All these folks, right, these 0:16:53.360 --> 0:17:03.720 people oppose everything it is asamine. So here watch this. 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:12.639 This is something that has troubled me on the news, 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.280 especially right wing media, which is where a lot of 0:17:15.280 --> 0:17:20.280 these right wing folks have a chance to say what 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.240 they would have done or what the country needs to do. Right, 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:27.000 You hear me out. I've heard that they want to 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:33.600 make school's single entrance, single exit, right. They want to 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.880 make schools. They want to arm teachers. Of course, teachers 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.159 have guns now they have to be certified and go 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.600 to gun training, as if their jobs aren't already tough. 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.879 They want public resource resource officers, armed resource officers on 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:53.000 every campus in the school, which, by the way, there 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.800 was an armed resource officer on the campus in While Day, 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.520 Texas at the time the shooter broke in and shot 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:03.320 up all the kids and those teachers as well. They 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:08.760 want man traps, I've heard that one, which is basically 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:12.479 like an alarm code or an alarm that traps an 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:14.679 active shooter in a school. They want to outfit all 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:18.840 the schools in this country, you know, so that they 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:23.280 can address this problem. They'll do anything except say it's 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:27.280 a gun problem. Let's address the guns, right. And then 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.200 there's a bunch of other ones. There's some lady talking 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.199 about ballistic blankets. They are colorful. Hang on, hang on, 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:37.160 I'm making the point right here. But just a week 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.400 before that, he was a guy that walked into it 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.840 a grocery store. So all of that stuff in terms 0:18:42.880 --> 0:18:45.280 of public safety flies out the window. So you're going 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:50.800 to spend all this billions of dollars to outfit every 0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.000 school in the country to ensure public safety, and you 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.160 completely forgot about the grocery store. What do you mean 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.960 about churches? What are you because you know people get 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.320 shot in churches too, Right, What do we do about concerts? 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:04.080 I was in Vegas when all those people got shot 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:08.200 at that that concert. I was in Vegas too. Yeah, 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.040 so an ambulance, every no one could go anywhere. It's 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.399 stuck in the hotel. That's it. It was across the 0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.320 street from the concert. They had no idea that it 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:20.920 had happened until afterward. But you know, I. 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:25.040 Actually stayed in the same hotel hotel shooter was. 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:29.600 I wasn't in the uh. I was in the What 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:36.639 is that man? Anyway? So? 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:47.800 Yeah, these people have every they say everything they like 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:51.359 shift the narrative, right, so instead of it being a 0:19:51.359 --> 0:19:52.800 mass shooting, it's a school shooting. 0:19:53.440 --> 0:19:55.479 Right, So how do we fix school shootings? Now? How 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.840 do we fix mass shootings? Right? Because this is the 0:19:58.880 --> 0:20:00.960 problem that we're all dealing with. And then they have 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.200 all these statistics, all gun violences that and the other 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.919 handguns do most of the problem. Okay, Well, does that 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.679 mean you can do nothing? And that's fine. Now, I 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:11.359 know I've been talking, and I know you wanted to 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.560 jump in, so let me allow you some space to 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.080 say what you were wanting to say. Good. 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.120 I mean, it's tough because I don't have specific speaking points. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.480 You spoke earlier about cognitive dissonance. That's it, Like this 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.200 idea we're in the face when faced with new facts 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:31.040 that contradict whatever truth we have. 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.080 There can't be a new truth. 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:36.480 There are now two separate truths, and we dismiss one 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:48.160 of them. Profit above everything, even the lives of our children. 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.880 Yeah. That's a really, really tough pill to swallow. 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:57.320 And it's gotten to a point where the divisiveness with 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:02.520 the people in our country has caused us to nobody 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:04.440 can even say my bad anymore. 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.560 Not only was I not wrong, but let me double 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.560 and triple down on my wrong. 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.800 Because I could never just admit, Okay, we've been doing 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:16.080 this wrong the whole time. 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:20.320 Right, guns are not the problem. We need more. 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:26.600 More armor, more guns, more of whatever is going to 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:31.840 help my constituents make more money, not what's gonna make 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:37.640 our people, more specifically our children more safe. How can 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:41.240 I make the people who give me money more money? 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:47.879 It's very, very troubling. And you know, in our next segment, 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.480 I want us to actually read some of these details 0:21:50.480 --> 0:21:53.720 so people can that don't know, can hear some of 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.159 the things that actually went on that day at that 0:21:56.280 --> 0:22:01.920 school while these children were being murdered. They were present 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:08.760 while these children were being murdered and actively doing nothing 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:09.560 to stop it. 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:10.919 And I heard you. 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:20.600 I laugh in jest when Ramses interjects hope into stories 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:24.720 and situations that have shown us enough times by now 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:27.240 that they are completely hopeless. 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.520 These people do not care about us. 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:35.720 They only care about themselves, because even if they cared 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.920 about their own children, this would be an issue. Their 0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:44.359 children go to school, they go to private schools, you know, 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.320 and communities that they think are safer, right because these 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:52.680 shootings at these grocery stores and these schools, in these 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:58.520 last most recent cases, the victims look like us. But 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:03.200 we have and shown even when the victims look like them, 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:07.679 that they don't care, right because those victims are probably 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:13.680 less fortunate than them. It's not just our minorities that 0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:20.600 get stomped on. It is our poor, no matter how 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.760 they look but they've done such a masterful job at 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:29.480 the divide that the poor that look like them think, 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:33.800 vote and act like them, as you said, against their 0:23:33.880 --> 0:23:38.439 own best interest, even when all the statistics and all 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:40.600 the data and all the stories and all the videos 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:45.280 show them they don't care about you either. They've just 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.240 done such a good job convincing you that they do 0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:52.320 that you'll fight to continue to support the world that 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.560 they've created for themselves as their boot continues to step 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:58.560 on you and us. 0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:03.399 I don't think any thing illuminates that point any better 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.440 than a man saying we need to install traps at 0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:11.479 the school to catch active shooters. We need to install 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:17.600 traps at every school to catch the active shooters. Okay, okay, 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:21.000 this is asamine. This is we're not sharing the same 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:25.879 reality because kids walk out of schools. Right, Families go 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:30.480 to grocery stores, right, families go to worship, Right, people 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:34.359 go to concerts. Right people go to Pulset nightclub? Right? 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.760 Have you? Are we going to install man traps in 0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:42.199 every You see what I'm saying. So the people that 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:44.640 lap that up and say, yeah, that's a great idea, 0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.880 Yeah we need that. You know, those folks, those good 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:54.680 accent of those folks. Those are the people we need 0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:58.880 to have important conversations with, and it is now your 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.159 responsibility to have that conversation. But we're going to move on.