1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noone Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Fox Sportsradio dot com, or stream us live every day 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Here we go. It is our first Friday of the 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: football season. We are live. We are in Los Angeles. 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: It is the Herd Blazing five and one hour from now. 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. I will say, 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: Jay mckam sitting there watching that game last night, and 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: you know it's an old cliche, but there are bad wins. 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: You know, you win a game and you lose two 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: star players, and there are great losses where you learn 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: a lot about your team. I watched that game last 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: night for Dallas, and maybe it's because I had such 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: low expectations, but I thought that was about as encouraging 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: a loss. Philadelphia boat raced the Cowboys twice last year, 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: and Dallas had that game. 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: Can I ask you if which game the one before 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: the lightning delay or after, because they were totally different 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: game they were. So let's just start with this. 26 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: Listen if CD Lamb catches that deep ball and it 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: was a perfect throw, another one by Dak. I think 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: Dallas wins the game. They had more first downs, they 29 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: were slightly better on third down, they had fewer penalties, 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: they had more total offense, and I thought their clock management, 31 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: always an issue in Dallas with McCarthy, was very strong 32 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: at the end of the first half. Yes, Jalen Carter's 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: absence due to spitting is a big break. He is 34 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: just a complete, absolute difference maker. And for the first 35 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: half the Eagles defense was trying to sort things out 36 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: and figure out how to play without Jalen Carter. But 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: Dak played well. Don't blame it on Dak. He had 38 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: people in his face in the second half and made 39 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: great throws. And here's the thing about Dak. He's thirty two, 40 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: he's off his second surgery. They had new screws were 41 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: needed to reattach his hamstring. Yet he moved well, he 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: threw with confidence, he didn't get sacked. And again in 43 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: the second half, Vic Fangio dialed it up. He was 44 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: under duress. Also for Dallas, I thought the offensive line again, 45 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: no Jalen Carter, Yeah, we know it helped, But I 46 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: thought the offensive line held up well. I thought they 47 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: found running lanes. I thought Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens 48 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: against an excellent secondary that is an excellent, young, talented 49 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: secondary and linebacking corps, both George Pickens and Ceedee Lamb 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: created space, beat their coverage. And also, oh what are 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: we going to look like without Micah Parsons. Michael Parsons 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: is a great player, he's not the soul of his team. 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Last year with Michael Parsons, the Eagles averaged thirty seven 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: and a half points against Dallas. Last night was twenty 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: four and would have been a win if Ceedee Lamb 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: didn't become Ceedee lame and dropped three passes. The O 57 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: line look good. Keep your eye on James Houston, who 58 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: was great as a rookie. He's been beat up, he 59 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: struggles to stay healthy, but I thought he looked really good. 60 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: And listen, I have been highly critical of Brian Schottenneimer, 61 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: but you could not watch the Cowboys last night on 62 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: the road. Rain delay and not think they're buttoned up. 63 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: They're good on third down, they're emotionally in check. Very 64 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: few penalties, So I listen, you could have bad wins 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: in this league if you lose a star quarterback, but win. 66 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: You could have good losses in certain places. A young 67 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: Dallas team, I think they're gonna score some points. I 68 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: was really in couraged by the offensive line. It again 69 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: at halftime adjustments, but Dak wasn't getting sacked, he was 70 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: moving around. I think you have to be happy as 71 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: a cowboy fan. I throughout the game, I'm thinking Dallas, 72 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: don't screw it up, get a top ten lottery pick. 73 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: But they still got what three years to pay Dak, 74 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: maybe after this year, so they're invested in Dak. But overall, 75 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: here's Brian. I thought it was pretty impressive. 76 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: We got the right type of guys. 77 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 5: We got good players. 78 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 6: Again, Like I said, you know, you saw what we're 79 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 6: capable of in the first half offensively. You saw what 80 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 6: we're capable of in the second half defensively. We just 81 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 6: got to put the game together in a more complimentary fashion. 82 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 6: We had chances out there, and there's no moral victories 83 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 6: for us. We had a chance to win that game, 84 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 6: and we weren't able to do it, and it'll stink. 85 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: I mean that I thought Dallas, honestly, I thought it 86 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: was a B plus plus performance. Obviously the rain delay 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: didn't help them, but you're on the road, Philadelphia's got 88 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: the better team. It really came down to see and 89 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: Lamb making one big catch, but very impressive by Dallas, 90 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: shockingly so for me. Okay, let's talk Eagles. What did 91 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: I spend ten minutes on yesterday with the Eagles? I said, 92 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: they do a lot of things lousy franchises do, and 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: they did it again last night. Jalen Carter couldn't get 94 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: a snap in before he got tossed. They had more 95 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: penalty yards in the first half than any team in 96 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: the NFL last season had in the first half the 97 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: Eagles last night. I mean they went the entire game 98 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: and barely even glanced today J Brown. They had multiple 99 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: personal fouls. They were emotionally out of control. They had 100 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: a dumb taunting penalty when you know the league's been 101 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: warning all the teams taunting were not standing for it. 102 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: I mean I saw Big Dom more than I saw 103 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: AJ Brown, and Philly's got a lot of new faces 104 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: on defense, so they needed Jalen Carter. That was a 105 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: big loss. Well once again, and we talked about this yesterday. 106 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: You know what, I've always loved Jalen Hurts, not as 107 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: much as anybody else, but boy, did you see it 108 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: last night? Stoic intelligent leadership. Do you realize in his 109 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: last fifteen stars that he's played the entire game. He's 110 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: fifteen to zero and last night was classic Philly drama 111 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: everywhere taunting, fendalies, personal fouls, Jalen Carter and here's stoic 112 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurtz grown up. I mean, now, Vic Fangio deserves credit. 113 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: He couldn't figure out in the first half what to 114 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: do without Jalen Carter. They go in at halftime, Fangio's like, 115 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna switch some things up. He did 116 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: Vix great, So it took them a half to figure 117 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: out what to do defensively. But I thought Jalen Hurts 118 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: faced more pressure overall consistently than Dac did. I thought 119 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Dallas's front got pressure, but he is so mentally dialed in. 120 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: This guy is such an impressive human being. I almost 121 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: I think Jalen Hurts is an impressive human being. The 122 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: quarterback is second. But this was a classic game for 123 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: Philadelphia where they kind of melted down in the first half. Carter, taunting, penalties, 124 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: personal fouls. They were kind of a wreck. But what 125 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: pulled it through Jalen Hurts picking up first downs. He 126 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: just you know, It's like in Philadelphia is a big 127 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: noisy family. And I learned this with my dad, you know, 128 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: passed away, like who's the executor of the will? And 129 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: they gave it to my sister, right like like all right, 130 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: Collins distracted, give it to my sister. And I feel 131 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: like this is a big, loud family. If you ever 132 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: had to give the executor of the will to anybody 133 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Eagles, I wouldn't give it to Nick 134 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: Sirianni the executor. It would be Jalen Hurts because there's 135 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: so last night's first half there was nothing but drama 136 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and there's a big story something's going on 137 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: with aj Brown. We'll get to that in a second, 138 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: but here's Nick Sariani on the Jalen Carter incident. 139 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 4: We want to have right, like I said, energy, tenacity, 140 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: all those different things, but we got to do it 141 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: within the rules of the game, and you know, we'll 142 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 4: we'll we'll address that, we'll go through that, but we 143 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: got to get better in that in that scenario because 144 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: we need we need that guy on the field. 145 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 1: He's a really good player. The other thing to think about, 146 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: and I'm going to get into this after the break, 147 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: but there is one thing because Philadelphia I Jalen Hurts 148 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: is playing the entire game. Philadelphia wins. Okay, there is 149 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: one thing Jason and Jason was on this couple of 150 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: years ago. I got to give him credit. That blows 151 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: up a dynasty or a great team wide receiver drama 152 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: and the AJ Brown situation last year. You start looking 153 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: at the data, he is not the guy you think 154 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: he is. I always said this Warriors won pre KD 155 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: and post KD. The soul of the team was Draymond 156 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: and Staff. It was not Katie. Katie was the most talented, 157 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: and I could argue AJ Brown's as talented as everybody 158 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: on Philadelphia. But I'm gonna give you some numbers after 159 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: the break to show you, you know what it felt 160 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: like last night to me, we didn't work together at 161 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: this time. Randy Moss goes to the Patriots and he's unbelievable, 162 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: and you're kind of waiting for the next shoe to drop. 163 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: And then I forget what year it was, but there's 164 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: a Monday night football game, New England goes to Miami. 165 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: I think it was in Miami, but it was the 166 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: Patriots Dolphins, and they target Randy Moss once. And I 167 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: remember I worked at ESPN. I went on the air 168 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: that Tuesday morning and I said, he's out of here, 169 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: and everybody back then I would take emails or calls 170 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: to the show and everybody's like, no, you're overreacting. I'm like, 171 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: the most talented receiver in the game on a team 172 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: that doesn't draft receivers. You target against a rival team Miami, 173 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: you target him one time. It's not like you targeted 174 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: him eight times and the coverage was good. AJ Brown 175 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: was targeted what once? Last night? Okay, so that tells 176 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: you Jalen Hurst and A J. Brown Because Dallas Goddard 177 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: was eating last night, Saquon was eating dots and god, 178 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: looks Devonte Smith got looks a Day's more talented arguably 179 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: than all of them except Saquon Barkley and got one 180 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: look that is not coincidental, not great at all. 181 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: And it was not just one target. It was one 182 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: target with like five minutes left to the game. Colin, 183 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: that offense did not look good at all. You can't 184 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: rely on Jalen Hurts to bail you out of every 185 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: third down. They had one pass completion over ten yards 186 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 3: one the bomb to Dotson. 187 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: That's it. 188 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: Everything else was short. I know it's a new offensive 189 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: coordinator for Hurts, which is the case almost every year. 190 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: But Colin, I'm with you. To take away is Dallas 191 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 3: looked better than advertised and Philly did not look particularly sharp. 192 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: No, but I will say the rain delay helped Philly. 193 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard enough to go on the road, 194 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: like it's hard to go on the road, the crowds 195 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: against you, and then you prepare and Dallas had a 196 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: very good game plan and then all of a sudden 197 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: you got a rain delay for halftime and you're like, okay, 198 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: it's hard. And I felt for I'm like, oh, this 199 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: is like Philadelphia the football gods. Remember the Super Bowl 200 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: with the lights went out. It's like sometimes a team 201 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: that when the lights go out you come back on 202 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: or there's a delay, some players don't react as well. 203 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: It's always felt like it's an advantage being the home 204 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: team if there's some malfunction or delay. And I just 205 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: felt like after that, I thought Philly was a little 206 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: more dialed in. But you cannot come out of that 207 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: game and not say to yourself with Dallas, because my 208 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: thing was Schottenheimer, he hadn't been offered or interviewed for 209 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: a head coaching job before Dallas, like for fourteen years, 210 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: and offensive coaches all get interviewed, so like he was 211 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: not the party of the you know, the bell of 212 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: the ball by owners or gms as an offensive coach. 213 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: But maybe he's a walk around guy and his stoicism 214 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: and chill approach works with Jerry. 215 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 3: It could be let me just push back and I'll 216 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: offer this. If Jalen Carter's not tossed, you could just 217 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 3: take away all those a gap runs where Javonte and 218 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: just running there. By the way, Javonte Adams total for 219 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: rushing guards was like thirty seven and a half. He 220 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: had like fifty eight yards rushing. Okay, so it's not 221 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 3: totally fair. And then all of a sudden, Dak gets 222 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: pressure up the middle. Javonte Williams, Sorry, I just I 223 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 3: don't really know what to make of either team. 224 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: But here's my take. Though you're right, but the truth 225 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: about availability it's on you. So that's I am not 226 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: gonna say. Well, Dallas with Jalen Carter, I don't know, 227 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: but you know what, you're not mature. You had red 228 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: flags coming out of Georgia. This won't be the last 229 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: time you get in trouble, so you know what. Dak 230 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: could have easily spit back and didn't. But the mature Dacks, 231 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: like now bra Jalen carssol, I Philadelphia's drama is self inflicted. Okay, 232 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't you know. So you're right. I do think 233 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: Dallas found some running lanes that they wouldn't have found. 234 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: But I will say the past protection pretty good. 235 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 5: Nolan Smith was the only I get into him. 236 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: I am curious if MICHAEH. 237 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 3: Parsons is there for Dallas on that is he setting 238 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: the edge containing Jalen Hurts. It felt like they missed 239 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 3: Michael Parsons. I didn't hear a lot of that discussion 240 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 3: on the broadcast. 241 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: Well, I thought Houston was really good. 242 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: He was solid, But imagine if he was opposite Michael Parsons, 243 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: then it's like, well, Jalen's not running wild. 244 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: I mean, Jalen was just clowned out right. Carter's gone 245 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: one for Philly, Mike has gone for Dallas, and so 246 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: you could say, well, it's kind of a wash. It 247 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: just looked like if you didn't know anything about Philly 248 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: or Dallas and you were dropped spaceship in front of 249 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: a TV and you watched the game, your takeaway would be, yeah, 250 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty close even Yeah. I watched them 251 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: play twice last year lobsided. It was Bam in the 252 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Dynasty against Kentucky. It was like, Oh, these teams shouldn't 253 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: be on the same field both games last year. Last 254 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: night I was like, no, they match up, the Lions 255 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: match up. 256 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 257 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: and Noone Eastern non a em Pacific on Fox Sports 258 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 259 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 7: Hey, it's Ben, host of The Fifth Hour with Ben 260 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 7: Maller with me and a lock to have you joined 261 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 7: us on our weekly audit journey. You're asking, what in 262 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 7: God's name is the Fifth Hour? I'll tell you it's 263 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 7: a spin off of it Ben Mathershow, a cult hit 264 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 7: overnights on FSR. 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I felt good 275 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: every week last year that didn't mean anything. And here 276 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: we go with our opening blazing five. 277 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: Let's blaze it up right up, It's Collins Blazon Fox, 278 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: Giants had Commanders. 279 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: I like the Giants plus six and a half. At 280 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: least one underdog of six plus points is one outright 281 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: in Week one. I think the Giants could be the play. 282 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: They played nine ones score games last year and both 283 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: games against the Commanders were close. Brian Burns, Dexter, Lawrence 284 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: Abdul Carter. This is a top two or three defensive line, 285 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: and I mean, let's be honest, it's week one. We 286 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: saw what d lines can do last night Malik Neighbors 287 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: matchup problem. Even with dan Quinn back into the defense. 288 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: Last year for Washington was a bit of a mess. 289 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: The Commanders great year, but they played twelve one score 290 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: games and their defense again was bad with a defensive coach. 291 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: So I think the debo Terry McLaurin thing is fascinating, 292 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: but I think it won't be perfect until later in 293 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: the season. This is a go either way game. I'll 294 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: take Washington to win, but six and a half. I'm 295 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: taking it with the Giants twenty seven to twenty three. 296 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: Commanders close, Steelers and Chets. I like the Jets plus 297 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: a field goal. This is the lowest over and under. 298 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the home dog plus the three points. 299 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: They held fourth quarter leads in six of their twelve losses. 300 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: Last year, the Jets were in games, and that's with 301 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: an old quarterback that couldn't extend plays. Now they have 302 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: a young quarterback that can. The Steelers had a lot 303 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: of turnover left tackle gone, quarterback gone, best receiver gone, 304 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: best running back gone. With a defensive culture, you think 305 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna look good in Week one. I mean my 306 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: takeaway is is the wrong team getting points here. I 307 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: think the Jets rosters good, and I've got a young 308 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: quarterback who played in Pittsburgh and knows their personnel. And 309 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: by the way, Aaron Rodgers with all these new parts 310 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: week one, last three times Week one he started, he's 311 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: lost all of them and has not played well. And 312 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: he's not the most committed guy in the offseason. I 313 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: like the Jets here to win straight out twenty four 314 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: to twenty money line baby. 315 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: Forty nine ers at Seahawks. 316 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: I like the Seahawks. You know, since lumin Field opened 317 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: up in two thousand and two, Seattle's got the best 318 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: home win percentage nine and one record at home week 319 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: one and by the way, six of their final eight 320 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: games last year after the bye they won. They needed 321 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: a buy for this new coaching staff, and they've upgraded 322 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: at coordinator. They're gonna run the ball, They're gonna speed 323 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: the game up. Gray's Abel, the draft pick, watched them 324 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: run the ball. Sam Darnold's an athletic upgrade at quarterback, 325 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: and the Niners McCaffrey's banged up, Brandon Aiyuk's out, Greenlaw's gone, 326 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: who Fungus gone. By the way, Niners were not great 327 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: against their Division. Last year they were one in five 328 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: in division and two and six on the road. Last 329 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: year they were not a great road team or division team. 330 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: And the red zone defense, that's why they brought SLA in, 331 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: was a bit of a mess. That was thirty first. 332 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: I liked the Seahawks and the points to win straight 333 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: out twenty four to twenty three Lions at Packers. I 334 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: really like green Bay BT of the weekend, young team 335 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: entering their prime, added Micah Parsons. I like green Bay 336 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: here only team in the league top five offense and 337 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: total defense. And by the way we think to ourselves, 338 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, Jordan Love wasn't great last year. I went 339 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: and looked it up this morning. Final seven games last year, 340 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: nine touchdowns, no picks. He's fine. Lions lost both coordinators. 341 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: If they do replace them deftly, it'll probably be later 342 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,880 Speaker 1: in the season. And Dan Campbell's not been a good 343 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 1: underdog coach twelve and twenty one in one as an 344 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: underdog head coach. When they got better players, they win. 345 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: When they're at home with better players, they win on 346 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: the road. Do they have better players than Green Bay? 347 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Jared Goff without McVeagh and Ben Johnson 348 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: never been quite as good. I like Green Bay to 349 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: win outright. Twenty eight to twenty four. Texans and Rams 350 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: take the under forty three and a half. Nineteenth ranks 351 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: scoring offense Texans against the twentiest scoring offense. Here's the 352 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: truth about the Rams. Last year didn't have a great 353 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: point differential even with Stafford. Both teams come into the 354 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: season with o line issues. Stafford's back's an issue, left 355 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: tackle Eleric Jackson blood Clotts didn't practice a ton, and 356 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: the Texans beat up on their division. They were five 357 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: and one against the AFC South. They weren't great out 358 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: of their division. They've got a first time play colored 359 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and a lot of new faces on the 360 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: offensive line. And I am here to tell you the 361 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: Rams defensive front is filthy and getting better. I think 362 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: it is a very low scoring game. The over unders 363 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: forty three and a half. It feels like twenty seventeen 364 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: or twenty one seventeen Rams to me, probably at home, 365 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: I give them the edge, but I'm taking the under. 366 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: Here take the under forty three and a half. J 367 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: McKinney thoughts on that, Love love, love the Jets pick. 368 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 3: That's my favorite of your five outside of the Packers, 369 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 3: which I also have, but that forty nine Ers one. 370 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: You didn't really mention the Christian McCaffrey missed practice yesterday. 371 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: Then the forty nine ers did not make him available 372 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: to the media. I have him in multiple fantasy leagues 373 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 3: and I'm sweating. 374 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: Oh, I feel so terrible for you. Thanks, friend. You 375 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: need to go into every weekend with a. 376 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 3: Little humidity, rock Purty taking over that game and winning 377 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: on the road, beating your guy, he would deserve credit. 378 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: That's a tough And if mccaffery's even Kahim told me 379 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: a week ago, I said, where did you hate going 380 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: when you were the GM Arizona? He goes Seattle. He 381 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: goes that is a rough place to play. He goes, 382 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 1: that crowd lubricates, they're ready to roll. 383 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 384 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a em Pacific. 385 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: And with that, Matt Hasselbeck is now joining us live 386 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: eighteen years in the NFL. So, Matt, I watched Dak 387 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: Prescott last night and I've been a critic. I thought 388 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: he was really good. I thought Dak was I was 389 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: just like man. Listen see d he's dropping it. He's 390 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: not getting worked up, he's not mad. He was stoic. 391 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: You got, Brian Schottenheimer. I don't know your takeaway on DAK. 392 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: I was really impressed. 393 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought it up. 394 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 8: I completely agree with a lot of hate going to 395 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 8: Dak for years and years. I thought last night he 396 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 8: looked great coming off of the injury. 397 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 5: I thought he looked fit. I thought he looked quick. 398 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 5: You know, he said he felt slow. He didn't look slow. 399 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 8: He looked like a guy that was in command, in control, 400 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 8: and honestly, like with the loss of Micah Parsons on defense, 401 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 8: like leaders got to step up, Like you really step up. 402 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 8: You're not just the leader because you make all the 403 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 8: money or you're the quarterback. 404 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 5: You're a leader by the. 405 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 8: Things that you do with like no one really watches 406 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 8: or no one really notices, like the camera multiple times 407 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 8: last night he's going up and down the sidelines, dapping 408 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 8: up each one of his teammates, like the whole night 409 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 8: like reminded me of like what Bill Russell was like 410 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 8: when he was on the Celtics. He was very captain 411 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 8: like of him at all times, keeping us engaged, like 412 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 8: he was he came for the fight, and I don't 413 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 8: think we've seen that at. 414 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 5: A dak this way, not quite this way. I was impressed. 415 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think it's something. I don't want 416 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: to be hyperbolic here, but I remember years ago Randy 417 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: Moss Brady go to play the Dolphins on Monday night 418 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: and they targeted Randy Moss one time. And I sat 419 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: on the air I worked at another company. I said, okay, 420 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: if you're only targeted Randy Moss once, he not long 421 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: for New England. He got traded. A few days later. 422 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: Aj Brown was invisible. Now Dallas Goddard's good. Barkley. I 423 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: don't know. I got to be honest about that, Matt. 424 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: That doesn't smell right to me. Your thoughts, Yeah. 425 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 8: I think last year they had a slow you know, 426 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 8: they started out slow figuring out how. 427 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 5: To use Saquon Barkley. 428 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 8: They've got a new coordinator, and sometimes you can kind 429 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 8: of get lost in the forest on your call sheet. 430 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 8: You know, they get that big giant call sheet and 431 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 8: you're thinking, like, okay, Eberflutes, he's in zone ninety percent 432 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 8: of the time, he's in too high. Like you just 433 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 8: kind of get lost with it and you're really focused 434 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 8: on winning the game, and sometimes what can happen is 435 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 8: you can forget that a star receiver is not getting 436 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 8: the ball. Like I remember Mike Congrin on his call sheet, 437 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 8: you would have like a whole section. And I see 438 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 8: it on Andy Reid's he's his you know, just as big, 439 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 8: the whole whole section for like get this guy touches. 440 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 8: And you saw that they tried to do it kind 441 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 8: of late, but I think it's important. You know, I 442 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 8: was teammates with Jerry Rice at the end of his career. 443 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 8: I mean he's forty years old. He's Jerry Rice, though, 444 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 8: you know, and he would come to me like during 445 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 8: TV timeouts stuff like that, and he'd like grab my 446 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 8: arm and be like, hey man, like I would love 447 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 8: to feel a part of this game. I would love 448 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 8: to feel part of this game. And as a quarterback 449 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 8: and as a play caller. 450 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 5: I do think that that's an important thing. 451 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 8: When you have a star receiver outside, you got to 452 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 8: you got to include him. And I thought aj Brown 453 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 8: was included in other ways, blocking and all that kind 454 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 8: of stuff, but you got to be more intentional about 455 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 8: making it happen. 456 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 5: I think they get it. Fixed, but clearly that was 457 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 5: a miss last night. 458 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: By the way, the rain delay was weird. I thought 459 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: it benefited Philadelphia. I feel I said, like, you're the 460 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: road team. It's already a pain in the butt to 461 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: play on the road, it's a big rivalry game. Then 462 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: you have a rain delay after halftime. I did think 463 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: Philadelphia post delay felt a little different, did you. 464 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean a team that's been there, 465 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 8: you know. I think on the broadcast they did a 466 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 8: good job. It'll probably feel like a really really long 467 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 8: halftime at a super Bowl. 468 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 5: Obviously, the Eagles are just coming off of a super Bowl. 469 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 8: Dallas hasn't been you know, so like I you know, 470 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 8: I remember my Super Bowl the Rolling Stones played and 471 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 8: we were told, hey, they're going it's gonna be longer 472 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 8: than normal. Well they played even longer than they were 473 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 8: supposed to play, And like there is. 474 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 5: Something too, just like you know, so what now? What? 475 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 5: You know, that's the mindset? So what now? 476 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 1: What? 477 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 8: I think, like a Nick Sirianni, been there, done, eight team, 478 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 8: been together as a you know, as a group, Hey 479 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 8: so what now what Yeah, okay, lightning delay? So what 480 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 8: like here we go and I think, uh, yeah, I 481 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 8: think the advantage if you're gonna give one go to Philly. 482 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: So generally I like offensive coaches and good quarterbacks in September, 483 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: I think most coaches are obsessed to begin with. Offensive 484 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: guys are designing stuff and McVeigh or Andy Reid or 485 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: you know, any of these offensive guys. They're gonna have 486 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: some tricks Sean Payton that you haven't seen. So I 487 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: would think Joe Burrow and Zach Taylor would be good early, 488 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: and they have struggled. I'm looking the last three regular 489 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: seasons Weeks one and two, Burrow's oh and six, Week 490 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: three on they win seventy percent of their games. Can 491 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: you just decipher it? Decode it? Why do you think 492 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 1: Burrow and Zach struggle early? 493 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 8: Well, you know, I'm not sure how much work Burrow 494 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 8: had been getting in the preseason and even training camp 495 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 8: in like the last three years, but it's been different 496 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 8: this year. You can tell that this is a point 497 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 8: of emphasis emphasis for them. He's playing more, you know, 498 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 8: when teams are resting their starters, he and Jamar Chas 499 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 8: are out there, you know, lighting the league up in 500 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 8: the preseason. But you know, to me, I think it's 501 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 8: more than just a quarterback situation. How you do training 502 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 8: camp is important. You know, sometimes week one the quarterbacks 503 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 8: are the coaches that are so good at game planning 504 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 8: and studying, you they struggle week one because it's more 505 00:25:59,320 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 8: of a blind day. 506 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 5: You know, I would put Zach Taylor. 507 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 8: I don't know if he gets the reputation or not, 508 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 8: but he's very much like Sean McVay to me, like 509 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 8: where he knows the scheme, he knows how to get 510 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 8: the one on one and. 511 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 5: So that's the thing. But the other thing to me. 512 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 8: Week one is like, what kind of training camp did 513 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 8: you have who's really good at tackling defensively? And I 514 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 8: think that's just one of the new things here with 515 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 8: the offseason being how it is, the amount of preseason games. 516 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 5: That have been taken away. 517 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 8: You know, we got guys that haven't had to tackle 518 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 8: live and really been tested, haven't been exposed, and you know, 519 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 8: sometimes those guys get exposed week one. And you know, 520 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 8: Cincinnati doesn't stick out to me as a great tackling 521 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 8: team in the last few years. So you know, I 522 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 8: think there's a lot of factors that might. 523 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 5: Go into it. But I'm a believer in Joe Burrow 524 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 5: all the way. 525 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good point about the tackling. So 526 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm not a big fan of games in Brazil, London, Germany, 527 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: Mexico City. I think it's a big ass for players. 528 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: This game is so hard on players. I mean Brazil 529 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: feels like, you know, what is the flight fifteen hours? 530 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: I don't like it. You tell me your thoughts on 531 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 1: it as a player? Is it discomforting? 532 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 8: Like? 533 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: Where do you land on that game? Chargers Chiefs tonight? 534 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 8: Well, my first NFL game I was with the Packers. 535 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 8: We played against the Chiefs in Tokyo in the Tokyo Dome. 536 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 8: I got blown up right around second base and sprained 537 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 8: my tailbone. So I got a bad memory from that game. 538 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 8: But you know, playing surfaces I think a big thing. 539 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 8: I've been down to Mexico City seeing ironically, I think 540 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 8: it was the Chiefs and Raiders play a game down there. 541 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 8: It was a very slick surface. I think it's hard 542 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 8: on the players. I think it's hard harder on everybody, 543 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 8: you know. I was just in Kansas City and talking 544 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 8: to their equipment equipment manager, Alan Wright. 545 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 5: You know, they had to ship everything out a week before. 546 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 8: So there's almost like two sets of equipment minus things 547 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 8: like your helmet. So it's a grind. But for the 548 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 8: teams that have done it and have like a veteran 549 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 8: group doing it, I think it gives them a little 550 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 8: bit of an edge. It is a little bit of 551 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 8: a circus and a little bit of a show. But 552 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 8: I think the Chiefs, again, they're just used to it. 553 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 8: Like everything they do is breaking news, whether it's in 554 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 8: the sports world or outside the sports world. They seem 555 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 8: to kind of like water up for ducks back, you know, 556 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 8: like they're just like, yeah, here we go. And I 557 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 8: will say this, I think a lot of people, including you, Colin, 558 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 8: are sleeping on this Chiefs team. I think this is 559 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 8: the most talented team they've had in a long time. 560 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 8: And I think that you're going to see a Travis 561 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 8: Kelce and a you know, a group around Travis Kelce 562 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 8: like really finished strong. They realize how special this year 563 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 8: could be if it is in fact his last year. 564 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 5: So I'm a believer in the Chiefs this year. 565 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: So when you get a new player like Micah Parsons 566 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 1: and you've got a very strong culture in Green Bay, 567 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: which you know, like Dallas's defense was fine without him, 568 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: I think we all think he's gonna go and get 569 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: six sacks again. You know, oh, Mike is going to 570 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: change it. But this is a well coached team. What 571 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: kind of impact do you think he could have against 572 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: Detroit week one? Or does it when you get new 573 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: players late? I mean, just happened. What do you expect 574 00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: from Micah? 575 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's real. 576 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 8: Well, listen, they're gonna have a small package for him 577 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 8: on third down. 578 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 5: Jeff Affley does a really good job on third. 579 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 8: Down designing scheme, like, you know, singling him up, and 580 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 8: I promise you it's a pain in the butt for 581 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 8: the opponent to wonder where he's gonna be. 582 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 5: How many snaps is he gonna play? 583 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 8: Are we dedicating two linemen or alignment and a tight 584 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 8: end alignment and a running back? Are we dedicating those 585 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 8: resources to him? And then he's not even on the field, 586 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 8: Like it's you'd almost rather know without a shadow of 587 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 8: a doubt, like a Max Crosby, like, yeah, he's gonna 588 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 8: be there. 589 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 5: At least we know what we're up against. 590 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 8: This is a little bit unsettling because hey, are they 591 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 8: going to use him mostly on first and second down? 592 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 8: Are they gonna use him only on third down or 593 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 8: they gonna use them in special situations. How much of 594 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 8: the defense can he grasp? I think you can guess 595 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 8: at it, but it's a lot tougher. And so I 596 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 8: do think like as a as. 597 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 5: A pass rusher type guy. 598 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 8: Even if he played fifteen snaps and it came away 599 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 8: with two pressures in a sack and a half, like, 600 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 8: that's a win Week one. 601 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: Finally, you know Seattle, well, I like them against the Niners. 602 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons I like him is if 603 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: you go to this coaching staff after the bye, I'm 604 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: a big believer. When Brady goes to Tampa. They were 605 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: seven and five at the bye, and now I can 606 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,959 Speaker 1: sit down with Bruce arians and say, listen, I need 607 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: to shorten up some routes. The NFL season, you're on 608 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: a treadmill. The bye gives new people a chance. It's 609 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: like almost it's like really to work on stuff. So 610 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: when I look at McDonald and the Seahawks last year 611 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: after the bye, it was like, Okay, they really needed that. 612 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: They were a different team. I think they're going to 613 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: surprise people. Where are you on Seattle? Final question going 614 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: into the weekend where they're very good at home against 615 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: the Niners. 616 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 8: Well, brock Party doesn't seem phase to go into Seattle. 617 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 5: That's one thing that's very unique. 618 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 8: You know, you had mentioned when I first jumped on, 619 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 8: people don't like to go Seattle. 620 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 5: Brock Perty doesn't seem to care. 621 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 8: Mike McDonald, though, I think he's been pretty great. Like 622 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 8: I think he's been underrated. Ten win team last year, 623 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 8: you know, top ten defense, and think about how they 624 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 8: started out last year. I think they had like an 625 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 8: interception in two safeties to like start the first half 626 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 8: or something crazy last year. So that's not the identity 627 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 8: that he's looking for. He's looking for an offense that's 628 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 8: going to be run the ball, play action centric, basically, 629 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,239 Speaker 8: don't screw it up for my defense. I am so 630 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 8: confident in what I'm going to be on defense. You know, 631 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 8: think Baltimore Ravens a little bit like controlled back in 632 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 8: the day, control the ball, played great defense. I think 633 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 8: that's the image that he has. And now with this 634 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 8: injury news about Christian McCaffrey not coming out, I think 635 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 8: the Seahawks win this division. This was the game that 636 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 8: I thought, you know, this might be the toughest game 637 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 8: on their season, just because it's a new collection of people, 638 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 8: Sam Darnold, all the receivers are going, you know, all 639 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 8: that stuff. But now I'm buying Seattle this year. I like, 640 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 8: I'm a lot in this division, and you know that 641 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 8: home field advantage, you know, they it's an important thing 642 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 8: to have. 643 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 5: You know, sometimes a lot. 644 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 8: Of red shows up in Seattle, and it'd be nice 645 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 8: if Sex fans didn't let that happen. 646 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: All right, great seeing you, Matt hassel Back putting them 647 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: on a Friday. Appreciate it, bout as alas. Okay, see, 648 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: all right, big one tonight, I'm staying away Chargers and 649 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Well, if you forced to, who would you 650 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: take Chiefs? 651 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going against Andy Reid and Patrick 652 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 3: Mahomes to start the season. And by the way, some 653 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 3: people have dug into the Chargers numbers last year. 654 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: Listen, I know it's like Herbert twenty three touchdowns. I 655 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: think we four interceptions. 656 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: If you look at who he did it against, it 657 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 3: was a lot of bad teams. 658 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: And I know it's hey, you gotta you can only 659 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: play who's in front. 660 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: Of you find but I can also ding you that's 661 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: gonna come back for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We talked 662 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 3: about who they faced last year. They faced like almost 663 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 3: the most backup quarterbacks in the league. Yeah, they got 664 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 3: fat and happy off bad teams. So I'm a little 665 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: down on the Chargers compared to where I was in 666 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: like July. 667 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: Remember they lost Slater on the offensive line. 668 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 5: That's not uneasy. 669 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: The way Beckton they've got issue was there. He's all 670 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: he may not apply to is he off? Is he out? 671 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: He's He's going either way. 672 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 3: So they got Magnolo is one of the best in 673 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 3: the business dialing uplits is. 674 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: It's a tall order for the Chargers. He's got an illness, okay, 675 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: oh boy,