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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Howbours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Ett Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome into Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys inside the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It is Wednesday, but

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Speaker 1: it's really like a Saturday for a Thursday night game,

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Saints at at and T Stadium. You guys with us, good,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, last week, we have to do this. That's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right. Let's get that long weekend after this one

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Speaker 1: and get back to a normal schedule. Rob Phillips hosting

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Speaker 1: four Bill Jones today, Brian brought us joining me across

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Speaker 1: the table. Is always welcome, sir, Thank you, sir, appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I think Mickey's Bagnola's showing up at some point. I

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Speaker 1: don't will he will, eventually, he'll figure out how to

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Speaker 1: get back over here. Yeah. Still get still yelling at

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Speaker 1: the guys on the fan. Absolutely, yeah, Ken Garrison dropping

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Speaker 1: those drops next door? All right, we got one day left, yeah,

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Speaker 1: for the big showdown. I figured out yet, I think.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna make our picks in the final segment, okay,

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Speaker 1: and picks to click as well. Yeah, and we can

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Speaker 1: spend the next hour our final diagnosis, our final keys

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Speaker 1: to the game and matchups. And I don't know you've

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Speaker 1: been spending all week. Yeah, I'm trying to find this

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Speaker 1: thing out. Yeah, you feel any better about it? Matchup now? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I do. I feel better in some regards. I think

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Speaker 1: I know Mickey's gonna come in here, We're probably gonna

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Speaker 1: go through the injury report. I'm worried about the situation

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Speaker 1: with Tyren Smith. You know, that's another no practice yesterday,

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Speaker 1: basically a walkthrough. And you know that Tyren Smith is

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Speaker 1: he could probably roll out of bed and go play.

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Speaker 1: But still there's that that factor. The one thing that

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Speaker 1: I do feel good about is that Camp flaming least

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Speaker 1: got work this week. You know, last week he was

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Speaker 1: him and said, hey, you're starting to night, you know,

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Speaker 1: be ready and good luck, but good luck. And he

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Speaker 1: you know, he went out there and did Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to say he did great, but he did. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Mickey's right. They got him a little help. But you know,

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Speaker 1: once again, you're talking about guys. You know with the Saints,

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Speaker 1: you know Cameron Jordan and you know and OAKA four

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Speaker 1: and what those guys can present as rushers. And the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys have not shown the ability to really protect overall

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Speaker 1: that did the second half of that football game. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you keep taking you know, guys off the

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Speaker 1: field that are big time players. It hurts you. Now

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Speaker 1: He did make the start it last Thursday against Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: He would be the weak link of this Atlanta keep

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Speaker 1: situation with him? Do you do you put rushers to

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Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence and walk him over there? You know, all

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Speaker 1: the things that you think about you might want to

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Speaker 1: most important for the Cowboys in this matchup. It's through

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Speaker 1: the middle. I think, you know, if you can get

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Speaker 1: guys to win early, that that affects Drew Brees more

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Speaker 1: than things from the backside, because his game is all

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Speaker 1: moving a little bit, slide a little bit, adjusting himself.

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Speaker 1: So the way he gets affected in the pocket is

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Speaker 1: things that happened in front of him. Now, most NFL

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Speaker 1: over the year, every bit of that. Yeah, backing up,

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Speaker 1: happened out the sun. That's a good point in Michael

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Speaker 1: Irvin one night in Minnesota or one afternoon in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: night here I recognize that voice exactly. It's a compliment.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens when you're celebrity focused. I don't know

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Speaker 1: they just know who you are. Absolutely, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: a good group today with Star Sports Tours. We should

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Speaker 1: They won't be too combative. I believe we've we've kind

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Speaker 1: that showed up for the Happy Hour too. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: at the Star District. Check it out, all right, Mick. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we were just talking Tyrant Smith. The injury situation. Basically,

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Speaker 1: you how do you know? I guess warm ups is

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Speaker 1: If he can do that, then he will play. If

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Speaker 1: time decision. Mickey's right, this is going to be a

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Speaker 1: saying had the rib injury was like, hey, I'm good,

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Speaker 1: I'm good. Bill comes up behind, unannouncing, pokes them in

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Speaker 1: the ribs. Yeah. One see, Haller reacted. The guy almost

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Speaker 1: Look at James Connor with the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's another

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Speaker 1: one that all of a sudden, you're replacing a guy.

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Speaker 1: Now you got a back that's doing just as well.

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Speaker 1: Rare cases, but it makes you think about doing that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the Cowboys absolutely love having Zeke. I'm not

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Speaker 1: questioning that. I'm just saying there's people out there they

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Speaker 1: will argue, Hey, Alvin kamaras just as good as Ezekiel Elliott.

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Speaker 1: But I'll guarantee you when the Saints took them, they

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Speaker 1: thought they were drafting a toy, not in every down

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Speaker 1: running back. Yeah, well him, him and Ingram together, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a great company. If you said, if you went

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Speaker 1: to the old Jimmy the Green, if you go back

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Speaker 1: I think if you looked at the running backs thing,

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Speaker 1: you would say, Kamara and Ingram and Zeke wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: a wash. I think if you look at those two

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Speaker 1: a wash there running the football because one could really

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Speaker 1: really catch. Both of them can really really run. Zeke

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Speaker 1: can really really run and he can catch, So that

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Speaker 1: would be kind of a wash right there. If you

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Speaker 1: want to look at that, leave it to our friend

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Speaker 1: Gil Brandt. He actually ranked the top ten best second

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Speaker 1: he really? Yeah, he's got an article on it like

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Speaker 1: recently it was last year. Okay, who's a guy? Um?

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Speaker 1: I'll start with number ten, Neil Lomax, Oh, Neil Lomax, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: been at Cardinals and Nick nine, Cordell Stewart, number eight,

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Speaker 1: Jake Plumber, then Ron Jaworski, oh Andy Dalton, Andy Dalton,

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Speaker 1: and then the top two is Drew Brees and Brian

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Speaker 1: should know Number one? Who is number? Yeah? Ar far

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Speaker 1: second round pick traded? You know, Mickey asked that question

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Speaker 1: and now and I sit there and hear all those names,

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Speaker 1: Farv was the second round pick. Matter of fact, Browning

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Speaker 1: Nagle was taken ahead of him, but the Packers didn't

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Speaker 1: actually draft Atlanta Falcons draft, and they traded a first

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Speaker 1: round pick to get him number nineteen pick. Overall, it

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Speaker 1: ended up being a Tony Smith, who was another running back,

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Speaker 1: the Falcons took Tony Smith at that spot, and he

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Speaker 1: Browning Nagle went ahead of Brett Farve in that draft. Well,

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Speaker 1: and and but you also have to put an asterisk

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Speaker 1: there because after them, he's coming out of he's coming

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Speaker 1: He lost a lot of intestine. Yeah, yeah, he was.

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Speaker 1: He was fighting for his life really. Yeah. And then

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Speaker 1: my very great Jerry Granville story when we're leaving the

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Speaker 1: Bes drafted. Yeah, so ninety one. He was a rookie

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Speaker 1: walking out and it's freezing cold. We're walking back to

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Speaker 1: where are you guys going and it's Jerry Grand Glanville

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Speaker 1: and he's going to the same He goes, oh, I

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Speaker 1: my friend goes, I'm sorry, Jerry, but I can't help myself.

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Speaker 1: I just want to know if Brett five can really

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Speaker 1: be in the NFL quarterback. And he looked at us

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Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, he goes. He goes once he

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Speaker 1: figures out by Wednesday, you got to quit all that

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Speaker 1: corn squeezing yeah, meaning drinking drinking yeah, And and he

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Speaker 1: goes in. I think he can have a career, but

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Speaker 1: he's got to get that under control. I swear to God.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks later the trade came down. Yeah, it's funny

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Speaker 1: that they blame. If you talked to Ken Hirok, who

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Speaker 1: to him. Both they blame each other for the trade.

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Speaker 1: It's clearly I didn't want to get rid of he says,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna give you a Chris Miller.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna, you know, And so

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Speaker 1: it's funny. It's it's it's kind of up there with

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Speaker 1: Baybert got there later. Yeah, the thing was real quick.

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Speaker 1: I mean it it was a trade that it changed

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Speaker 1: the history of the Green Bay Packers. That's what happened there.

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Speaker 1: That's the trade that you know. I get Mike home

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Speaker 1: Brand and Steve Mariuch all lout of credit for that trade.

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Speaker 1: Really because the magic Man was losing his magic then

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Speaker 1: a ten game win streak, Cowboys on a three game

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Speaker 1: stop Drew Breeze in that offense. DeMarcus Lawrence is fired

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Speaker 1: up for this game, Mick Good. I think he decided

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Speaker 1: and Dak came close the day before, but he did

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Speaker 1: it a little bit more delicately. I think they got

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Speaker 1: do you have to play a perfect game? Yeah? And

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Speaker 1: I think they find because Dak's all answers are yes

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Speaker 1: and yeah. And then I think I think DeMarcus Lawrence

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Speaker 1: like he pays attention, and I think he finally decided,

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Speaker 1: you know what, look, we can play football too. Sure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he he had that planned. It didn't just happen. Well.

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Speaker 1: He gave him a lot of credit too. He called

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Speaker 1: look at the numbers, they're by far the best team

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Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, but he was very complimentary. But

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Speaker 1: you saw what he did, right he got in the

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Speaker 1: Jen just gave up and left and then he started.

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Speaker 1: And I think what he was trying to make sure

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Speaker 1: it's Drew Brees. You know, we can't play against him.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what he was trying to do,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was bragging. I don't think he

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Speaker 1: trying to say, hey, we can play too. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: And it was very entertaining. Always is even the parts

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Speaker 1: And you know, he was asked over and over again

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Speaker 1: Brian about their offensive line, and he gave him a

634
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: lot of credit, but he said, they also haven't seen

635
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: us yet. Yeah, and this is a defensive line that's

636
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: been very productive for for the large part of the season,

637
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: even though they've dealt with some injuries, especially the last

638
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. If they win this game, it's gonna

639
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: be because of their defensive line. It's you're gonna have

640
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: to They're gonna have to play really well against the run.

641
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: Because of what we talked about earlier with Ingram and Kamara.

642
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: The Saints are gonna want to try and establish that

643
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: you've got to be ready for downhill game. A lot

644
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: of toss, sweeps, ball coming right at you. Things like that.

645
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 1: They're gonna put extra They're gonna put an extra tackle

646
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: in the game, you know, to you know, to try

647
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: and help they're blocking at the point of attack. You know,

648
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a physical front and and I'm really

649
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: I'm excited that that Lawrence is a you know, trying

650
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: to rally the troops. They're gonna need to play one

651
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: of their best defensive games. It's and we laugh about

652
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: being perfect and all that, but you almost have to

653
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: be perfect because the problem is they put so much

654
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: pressure on you to cover them when it comes to

655
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Speaker 1: those routes. Drew Brees is one of the best in

656
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Speaker 1: the league when it comes to finding a mistake in

657
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: the secondary that you've made, and he will hit that

658
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: guy every single time. And so how they play up front,

659
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: how they controlled the Saints offensive line, how they get

660
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: after Brees, how they play the run. There's They're gonna

661
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: give up some plays, but they just can't give up

662
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: play after play after play. They've got to find a

663
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: way to get some stops. Keep an eye on this game.

664
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Speaker 1: If this turns into an Atlanta first, like the Atlanta

665
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: in the first half, the Cowboys can very well win

666
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: this game. If it if it's if it's something where

667
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: you know, we came in and I was bragging on Atlanta. Hey,

668
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: these receivers, their ability to run the football, you know,

669
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan on third down, all these things high flying

670
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: offense and at home. Look what the always did defensively

671
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: to the Falcons. They kept the Falcons out of the

672
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: end zone when they had to played really great red

673
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: zone defense. You know, you're eric gonna have to have

674
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: the same type of effort and same type of game

675
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: that you did against the Falcons if you want to

676
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: win this game. Yeah, and by perfect, it depends on

677
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: the definition, right, Like Saints aren't perfect either, And when

678
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: a player gets asked that, they're gonna bristle at it

679
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: because look, they're not facing a robot on the other

680
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: side of the front either. But your definition, I understand it.

681
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: You can't play a really sloppy football game against this

682
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: team and expect to win. No, this is one of

683
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: those things where if you get them in third and

684
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: eight and all of a sudden, it's an incomplete pass

685
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: and you can't have defensive holding for a five yard

686
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: penalty in a first down. You know, if you get

687
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: off the field, you get off the field. No hands

688
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: to the face, no defensive holding, no pass interference. I mean,

689
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: just go out there and play as clean a game

690
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: as possible. That means with the turnovers, you know, you

691
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: can't turn the ball. We always talk about that. But

692
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, if you get the chance to get

693
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: them off the field. Byron Jones, Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis,

694
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: any one of you guys don't get called for defensive holding,

695
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: pass interference, hands the face, anything that gives the Saints

696
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: a fresh set of downs. You know, if you look

697
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: at what Atlanta did, I mean they moved the ball

698
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: up and down the field on the Saints. Problem was

699
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: they turned the ball over four times, lost three fumbles. Yeah,

700
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: and Ryan got sacked six times. Yeah. I mean they

701
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: had over, you know, almost three hundred and seventy yards offense.

702
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: Most of it was passing because they couldn't run the

703
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: ball right. Well, they couldn't run it against the Cowboys either,

704
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: but it was the turnovers that did them in in

705
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, So you know you can't give them

706
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: extra possessions. Yeah, absolutely. And I don't want to go

707
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: back to where we start left off yesterday about extra possessions.

708
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Why because I still want the ball if I would

709
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: the coin toss. Yeah, we covered that part. Yeah, but

710
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: that's I mean, they moved the ball on them. Yeah.

711
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: You know, now, can you can you hold them to

712
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: twenty eight thirty points. You hold you make this, you

713
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: hold them under thirty, which the Cowboys I think have

714
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: a streak now of twelve straight games, so they've hold

715
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: held an opponent under thirty points. I think I'm right

716
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: about that. Well every game this year. Tennessee was the

717
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: high at twenty eight. Yeah, they hold them under thirty,

718
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: they've got a shot to win this football game. They

719
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: were literally more than that, Brian, because it's eleven games

720
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: this year. They they held them shut out the Eagles

721
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: in the last game, right, it was six to nothing, right,

722
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: and the game before and they got beat by Seattle.

723
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: Wouldn't it like twenty four thirteen something? I thought it

724
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: was twelve something games myself, But it's it's a it's

725
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: a pretty nice streak to have if you're holding people,

726
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: especially in this day and age with the way the

727
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: offenses have just you know, the light you up if

728
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: you if you allow them to do that. Cowboys given

729
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: up nineteen point three points per game this season. Yeah,

730
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: and you know the run defense, it starts there, I think,

731
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: because the Saints do want to get those two acts involved.

732
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: You know, they're Cowboys holding teams under one hundred yards

733
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: per game, They're gonna have to do that. They're gonna

734
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: we've talked about down in distance with this offense here,

735
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: they've got to put breeze in some of those long

736
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: down and distance situations and not where he's just comfortable

737
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: all the time in second and six and third and

738
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Speaker 1: two and all that kind of stuff. Can I ask

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740
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Speaker 1: answer here, Give me a player and I'm not talking

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Speaker 1: give me a guy that we're not talking about that

743
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: could be a difference maker in this game. You know,

744
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: we've talked a bunch about the receivers and the defensive line,

745
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Is there a player that we're not talking about?

746
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: You're thinking, okay, when all these things are evenly matched,

747
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Speaker 1: this guy will make a play. This guy will make

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Speaker 1: a stop, This guy will make a catch. Is there

749
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Speaker 1: somebody you got in your mind? Hold that thought? Okay,

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Speaker 1: a streak of seventeen consecutive seven teams giving up less

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Speaker 1: seventeen games of not giving up thirty points that's pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was like, hey, maybe, but maybe this

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Speaker 1: like Parcel said one wrong, all wrongs, right, Yeah, being

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00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: the score in that Seattle game was twenty one twelve

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Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, that was the one that kind of

818
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Speaker 1: eliminated them from a chance of getting into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That's right, well, and then they won three in a

820
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Speaker 1: row before that, they did, they lost three in a row,

821
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Speaker 1: they did, and Tyrn Smith only played yeah, like a

822
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: series in that game. We'll see if he can go

823
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: this week. So they're already ahead of the curve because

824
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: last year without him, they were oh and three, and

825
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: now they're one and oh and without you know, Sean

826
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Speaker 1: Lee miss some time in there two last year and

827
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Speaker 1: five and now they're four and one, five and one.

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Speaker 1: We talked a little on The Happy Hour Show last night,

829
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Speaker 1: Mick about you know, they're they've withstood injuries better this year,

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Speaker 1: and I think it. You know, we talked about Vanderesh

831
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Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith and the job chrish Shard has done

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Speaker 1: on defense. I mean, they've they've dealt with adversity better

833
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: than they did down the stretch last year to this point,

834
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Speaker 1: they had a better player to step bid. Right. Well,

835
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: that's part of dealing with adversity, right, Yeah, you know

836
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: learning curve. Yeah, Smith is still here. He was there

837
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Speaker 1: last year. He's taken a step forward. He's keep an

838
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 1: eye on Cam Fleming in this game. Yeah, and you

839
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Speaker 1: know he's a guy that has started a Super Bowl.

840
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: My neck just stood up. Yeah. Well, and like you

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Speaker 1: guys said, they gave him some help last last week

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00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: as well. They need to continue that, whatever plan that is,

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00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: continue on. But the Cats out of the bag. Now

844
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: for the Saints, they've they've seen him once. That's his hope.

845
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: Seventy seven can hold a three hundred pound man in place. Yeah,

846
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: that's your biggest hope. We'll keep an eye on him

847
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: at the AT and T Stadium pregame see what was

848
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: going on, and we'll be there early. There can be

849
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: standing next to Britt Brown while he's running. I'll be

850
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: there before they get there. Well, Mickey, go down the

851
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: field and tweet out what happened. For any good, any

852
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: anybody going to the game. Don't wait to get there

853
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: because it'll be Thursday traffic and it's not like Thanksgiving,

854
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: right when you know everybody was off, Yeah, there's gonna

855
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: be some tailgating two out there making weather report traffic reports, right, yeah,

856
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: which a lot to guys. Chica tweeted out, Hey, it's

857
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: three o'clock. I'm here for the seven twenty start. Well,

858
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: now go down the field, Mickey, you know, get the

859
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: thumbs up from doctor down from Brett if if they

860
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: if it's a go and you get a thumbs up,

861
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: tweeted out, Man, I don't even get analysis on the

862
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: cheerleader's warm up. Don't need that, Nicky, need the analysis

863
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: of whether seventy sevens playing or not. It's just you know,

864
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: just stop, just you're you're you're doing good right injuries cheerleaders? Okay, no, no,

865
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: absolutely not all right? How about this? How about answer

866
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: Bryan's question from what you got a guy? You got

867
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: a guy that that we're not talking about that you

868
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: know in this game, when you have so many players

869
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: on both sides that are key components, is there somebody

870
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: on that forty six that's gonna show up in this

871
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: game that at the end of the day, we're gonna go,

872
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: wow that that guy right there made a little bit

873
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: of a difference. And it doesn't have to be like ten, twelve,

874
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: fifteen plays. Maybe he makes a tackle on a kickoff

875
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: return or or a kickoffer tun but a you know

876
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: tackle or on a special teams or makes a field

877
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: goal or you know punt s well whatever that give

878
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: me that guy. I'll give you a guy. Go ahead.

879
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: And he's he's been a part of a big part

880
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: of this thing. But last week one catch Cole Beasley. Ah,

881
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean we haven't. I don't think we've talked enough

882
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: about other receiver. I mean we talked so much since

883
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup has been here as Cole Beasley has been

884
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: put on the back back burner since since Cooper got here. Yeah,

885
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: I say, yeah, I said Gallup, I meant Cooper. I

886
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: meant Cooper. I'm sorry, Yeah, I mean, And we've talked

887
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: a lot about Cooper for good reason. But he also

888
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: and you've talked about this during the week, Brian, how

889
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: are they going to play him? Could that open up

890
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: some opportunities for other guys if they try to double

891
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: him a little bit? See what the Saints do. Beasley

892
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: is such a safety blanket for Dak. I think in

893
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: this game, you've got to get your offense cranked up

894
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: and you're probably gonna have to spread it around and

895
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: and find production from other sources. And I think he's

896
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: a guy that uh Dak trusts and and I just

897
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: expect more from than one catch for five yards. I

898
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: don't know what you saw on tape, you personally that

899
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: maybe in the Washington game, maybe they took him away. Yeah,

900
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: but he's a guy that certainly can step up. Is

901
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: that all he had one catch one, two targets win

902
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,240
Speaker 1: catch one and he had five or fifty one against Atlanta.

903
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean he's been productive in a maybe a little

904
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: bit more reduced role with Cooper here, but get you know,

905
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: get him going a little bit, find ways to get

906
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: him going. That was my pick. Got another one, Beasley,

907
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: Let Brian go in. I'll think of another way. Game.

908
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: This is gonna sound really, really strange, And I want

909
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: to love on what the potential is with Jordan Lewis,

910
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: with all their receivers and backs, with Kamara and stuff.

911
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: I want to love on Jordan Lewis. I'm throwing at you.

912
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: That's gonna you're gonna I'm gonna get a wow. I'm

913
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: gonna get a Nate Newton wow from everybody here. Rico

914
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: gathers yes, yes, this is the type of game where

915
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Rico Gathers has been used as a blocker, blocker, blocker.

916
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: Do you find a way to get him involved some way,

917
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's a red zone opportunity, is it

918
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: a third down opportunity? Is this a time where we

919
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: see them throw the football? And I know I'm asking

920
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: a lot here because all Rico's really done is he's

921
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: been blocking. He's been trying to learn the offense and block,

922
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: and but is this a time where you know, these

923
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: tight ends we haven't really you know with it. The

924
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: whole thing was Jeff Swain is we've said, Okay, who's

925
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: gonna step up, who's gonna play? You know, you think

926
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: maybe Jarwin, maybe Schultz, But this might be one of

927
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: those games or something good happens with Rico Gathers and

928
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: and he makes one or two plays where you go, wow,

929
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: that was a difference. That was a key catch there,

930
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: That was a key moment in this game. That would

931
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: be my guy that kind of keep an eye on,

932
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 1: because I think they're setting him up for something. You know,

933
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: I think they're setting him up to do something in

934
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 1: this game because all he does is block. But let's

935
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: see if he can make a play reception wise in

936
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: this football game. So I got one, all right, do

937
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: it like you know, family feud. Ye give me Xavier Woods,

938
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods, all right, because the Cowboys are gonna get

939
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: pressure on Drew Brees and I think and I think

940
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: he's gonna be stubborn. He's still gonna want to throw

941
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: some up down the field. Okay, And if Xavier Woods

942
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: is in single high coverage, he's gonna pick one off.

943
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: Get that body in front, just time, right, get the

944
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: body in front, you know, watch out. Yeah, Okay, anybody

945
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: liking maybe maybe a bounce back or a better game

946
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: from a Woozier or am I am I? Or is

947
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: a Woozier right now? Just kind of a Woozier. I

948
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: don't think that would surprise me. I mean, he created

949
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: the one interest right right, and he should have had another. Yeah,

950
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 1: it was a good tip ball. Nice job of vander

951
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 1: esh beginning between McCoy and a Woozier on that play

952
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: that to try and give him a chance. Yeah, but

953
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of you know, the boy. They need

954
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: him him, They just need him to play a little

955
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: more aggressive. And I think Jason Carrett mentioned it a

956
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago that he needs to be more aggressive,

957
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: and I think the last couple of games he has been.

958
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: You see him playing man at uptight close run with

959
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: the guy. I think he needs to continue to do

960
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: that because I bet they got Michael Thomas on that

961
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: side of the There's no question. Yeah, there's assignment. There's

962
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: no question. He's been in position this season to make

963
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: plays on the ball. Yeah, and hasn't quite finished. We've

964
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,720
Speaker 1: seen him finish better, finish Yeah. So because his coverage

965
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: has been good largely throughout the season. Um, I'll give

966
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: you one more. Okay, give me, let me hit the bells.

967
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: Ding ding ding ding ding. Taco Charlton. If indeed he's active,

968
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: he practiced this week, I think you're good to week.

969
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: I think you're good. I mean he's uh. Like we

970
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: talked about the left tackle situation right for the Saints.

971
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens with him. Randy Gregory, those guys. Yeah, Gregory,

972
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: you have a run, get some production on the other side, right,

973
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: and then you get Crawford going inside, you get d

974
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: Law on the other side. It's gonna take a full

975
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 1: effort from the D line. I wonder if they trust

976
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,240
Speaker 1: Taco to start and then they can move Crawford inside.

977
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: I think that to me, I would go with the

978
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: human log and and Collins as my starters and keep

979
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: Crawfordford on the out because I need to play some

980
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: run dee. Yeah if it turns yeah, if it turns

981
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: into I think you need because if you forgot about Collins,

982
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, I think it like I say, you

983
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: put as many big guys inside as you can, and

984
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: then you put as many guys on the edge that

985
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: can tackle you. Like the human law gunt you. I

986
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: always giggle at it because I imagine somebody who's never

987
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: listened to our show and doesn't know much about the Cowboys.

988
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: Nate Newton came up with the human law. The human

989
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: log is yeah, yeah, Antoine Woods, Yeah, Antoine Woods call him.

990
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: And they're gonna need to play the run early in

991
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: this game. I think they're gonna need to be firm

992
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: at the edges and firm in the middle. And and

993
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: but if it means moving, you know, taking Woods out

994
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: to rush the passer and the nickel by all means

995
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: do so. So I think that you know, we'll see

996
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,439
Speaker 1: this rotation at least with at least with Taco back.

997
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: He gives you another body to rotate in there. It's

998
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: a shame that you don't have David Irving in there

999
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: to make things happen. But that's that, you know, we've

1000
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: talked about that. That's a that's something, is what it is.

1001
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: So they got to play with what you got and

1002
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: what you got. It's not bad. David Irving will continue

1003
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: to be the cherry on top of the Sunday. You

1004
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: can eat the Sunday without the cherry, right, can't count

1005
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, And if somebody puts the Sunday in

1006
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: front of you without a cherry, you're okay with that,

1007
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: cam hole. I'm eating it. Yeah, I'm still That's the

1008
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: ice cream and the whip cream and I'm still now.

1009
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: And that's kind of what's about my My outlook has

1010
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: been since the beginning of the season when he had

1011
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: the service four game suspension. Yeah, anything you get on

1012
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: him is cherry on the top, count on it, gravy

1013
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 1: on the biscuits. There you go. Which game was it?

1014
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: Was it Jacksonville where they had Irving and Gregory on

1015
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: the field together. Yeah, and it was I think Jerry

1016
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: said this is something I've dreamed about for years. I mean,

1017
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: it's it's the potential is amazing, you know, but it's

1018
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: not a lot more issues there than we'll even know.

1019
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: That's the issue. Yeah, all right, Uh, we got a

1020
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: few minutes left in the show. Let's just go ahead

1021
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: because the break is following us immediately after this show. Immediately. Yes,

1022
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: we got short, short shifts today. We're in hockey mode. Yeah,

1023
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: we're all bunching those lines to get a Saturday Yeah exactly. Yeah,

1024
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: So we don't usually do a show on Saturday. Welcome

1025
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: to Welcome to the big Time. We're doing one. We

1026
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 1: normally do one on Sunday. That's true. Well, we're gonna

1027
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: do one on Friday. Okay, I think, well we check

1028
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: back for that. Probably need to all right, Uh, we

1029
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: need to get picks in and picks to click as well.

1030
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: I'll start with Bryan. Since you're making that face, you're

1031
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: making that Mickey face. Go ahead, Brian. You know what

1032
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm riding a little bit of a winning streak

1033
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: of one game. I had a three game skid there,

1034
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: I had a five game in a row, start seven

1035
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: and four right now, and I you know what this

1036
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: team has baffled me all year. When I don't think

1037
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna play well, they play well when they when

1038
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: they play well, I don't think you know, you get

1039
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: the idea, you get the picture. I don't want to

1040
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: confuse you out there, George Bush, but I mean, I'm

1041
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 1: trying to to tell you this. I think this team

1042
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: wins this game this week. I do. I think that

1043
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: the Saints are coming in. Yes, all the offense they're

1044
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: d I don't think their defense gets to their enough credit.

1045
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: But I don't think the Cowboys defense gets nearly enough

1046
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: credit for where they for where they're going, and I

1047
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: think they're I think this is a big time measuring

1048
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: stick game for them. I think they do carry this thing.

1049
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: Under thirty points. They carried under thirty points. Dallas can

1050
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: move the ball offensively, finish some drives, though it's gonna

1051
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: come down to having to finish some drives. H And

1052
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: if that's the case, then the Cowboys will find a

1053
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: way to win this football game. They're the ones that

1054
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: are going to score thirty. The Saints are gonna score

1055
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: twenty eight. Dallas thirty Saints twenty eight. This one kicks

1056
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: them in the right direction for the remainder of the

1057
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: season to go try and win this division. And I

1058
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: think it's a it's a one of those measuring stick games.

1059
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: I think they get it done. Picks the click, pick,

1060
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: the click, I'm gonna go with. I'm gonna need this

1061
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: is where I'm anything. I'm gonna need. H I don't

1062
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: have that in mind yet my pick, no, no, no, no,

1063
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: but I need I need something. I need to think

1064
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: of something because you got me with Taco there in

1065
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: what he need because I think that rotation. I think

1066
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: anybody my picks to click, Okay, picks to click are

1067
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: anybody that's rushing against bush Rod on that side, whether

1068
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: it's Randy Gregory, whether it's Crawford, whether it's Taco. Somebody

1069
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: on that right side needs to help me a little bit.

1070
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and get some push in the middle

1071
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: of effect breeze. I need to close in the backside.

1072
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: Anybody that's going up against bush Rod, I need you

1073
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: to click. In this football game, don't be surprised if

1074
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence moves over. I'm on a two game winning streak,

1075
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: not three. I guess I was not believing that they

1076
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: can go on the road. You were first road guy

1077
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia. They showed me. Um, look, the Saints have

1078
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: one ten in a row. It's probably time they lose one. WHOA,

1079
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: So I got the Cowboys thirty one thirty wow, and

1080
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: my pick to click will continue to be Ezekiel Elliott.

1081
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: They haven't faced a running back like him since the Rams. Yeah,

1082
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: that's a very good scored. What forty some What was

1083
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: the score of that game? It was a high score.

1084
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 1: It wasn't enough. Uh it was forty five thirty five.

1085
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: So um, I'll that's that's where I'm going. Okay, all right,

1086
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,320
Speaker 1: here comes the thundercloud from rob U. I'm on a

1087
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: three game win streak. I believe picked the Cowboys. I

1088
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: picked the Cowboys the last several weeks actually, and I

1089
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: was cut with Mickey covering the game in two thousand

1090
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: and nine when they went to New Orleans with I

1091
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: think LP was the only guy left, the only guy

1092
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: left over from that team beat New Orleans. Similar situation, undefeated,

1093
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: averaging thirty five thirty six points a game, and they

1094
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: cut the point total in half. I wouldn't be surprised,

1095
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: like you said, Brian, if this defense steps up and

1096
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: plays terrific um the Saints just have something going right

1097
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: now and you're not wrong. You're not wrong at all.

1098
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: And maybe that can change by January, but right now

1099
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: they are in such a role. Um. I like, I

1100
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: love the way Dallas overall has played at home this season.

1101
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 1: They've really played overall a lot better at home. I

1102
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a really good game, right,

1103
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: hurry up, and picked the Saints. I think off offensively,

1104
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys gonna score some points. Um, But I like

1105
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: the Saints in the end in this one fair enough.

1106
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: I think maybe they get they get to thirty thirty one,

1107
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: twenty eight, yeah, and flip it the other way. Yeah,

1108
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: and picked it like, I wouldn't be surprised if they

1109
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: do it. And if they do, it's gonna be to

1110
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence reaking havoc. And and you know, they need

1111
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: to create some extra possession and maybe it's him. Maybe

1112
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: it's a strip, sack, fumble on breeze, something like that

1113
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: to give them an extra possession. Offensively, they're gonna have

1114
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: to have one of those. Yeah, you're gonna get it

1115
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: from the coit toss? Is that what it is? Defer

1116
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: it's been working for him, Yeah, he ain't played the Saints.

1117
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. You don't know to get three

1118
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: and out though, just ball, it's still three plays zero zero. Okay,

1119
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: my point punning from that, you're punting from your own eighteen.

1120
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to go down this rabbit hole. But

1121
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 1: you're talking about what Marcus said in the locker room.

1122
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: You want to give your guys some confidence, give your

1123
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: defense some confidence. Let's go out there and stop him

1124
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: first possession. Yeah, all right, Micky's not in that. On

1125
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: board with that. All right, it's nothing wrong with stopping

1126
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: him the second possession. That's fair enough. Stop him possession,

1127
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: stop him the first possession of the second half. All right,

1128
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us. Thanks you, ken, everybody.

1129
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 1: Enjoy the game. The break is coming up next, they'll

1130
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: have their picks and we'll have more coverage of the

1131
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: matchup today and after the game on Thursday. Thanks for

1132
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 1: joining us. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,479
Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.