Speaker 1: Forever. Look man, oh I see you. Why why Bowen
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that nulture? Yeah? Goodness, let's
Speaker 1: just calling. Here's the thing. I have some tea to
Speaker 1: fill about Bowen Yang. So this took me back, took
Speaker 1: me up back. Oh, we were just at Starbucks. We
Speaker 1: were just at Starbucks and Bowen Yang, whose name is
Speaker 1: famously and iconically Bowen Yang. The gentleman at Starbucks asked
Speaker 1: what his name was, and he said Ryan. I said Brian.
Speaker 1: Well I heard Ryan, and if it was Brian or Ryan,
Speaker 1: I have an issue with this. Okay, but you need
Speaker 1: to probably be you. It's not about pride, I assure you,
Speaker 1: it's purely about it. It's purely efficiency. I'm just like
Speaker 1: the amount of time, the this cumulative amount of time
Speaker 1: that I've wasted, just being like it's bow and it's
Speaker 1: um b o w bo w no o b o
Speaker 1: w e just like the false starts, the lurching through.
Speaker 1: It's truly it's it's I think I've spent a full
Speaker 1: tallendar year total telling these telling these people how to
Speaker 1: spell my name, and it's just not what happens when
Speaker 1: the Starbucks employee is a huge fan, doesn't from your
Speaker 1: many exploits in the entertainment industry. Then they they see
Speaker 1: you as a wolf in Sheep Club, then they'll respect
Speaker 1: my wishes and right, But Brian on the damn I
Speaker 1: want you because isn't there a Brian Yang? Yes? What
Speaker 1: does he do? I think he's also a comedian. Okay,
Speaker 1: shout out to her, Shout out to her. Hey, queen, hey, queen,
Speaker 1: were not not to miss gender. He's a boy. Well, uh,
Speaker 1: I find that I want you to scream from the
Speaker 1: rooftops that you and I loved my name so much.
Speaker 1: But at Starbucks, it's not about with a B. That's
Speaker 1: all you have to say. I think you enjoy the performance. Listen,
Speaker 1: you walk into a Starbucks, pride is not an issue
Speaker 1: like no one's no one's, no one's want your drink
Speaker 1: as soon as past. No one's proud in a Starbucks.
Speaker 1: That's actually rule of culture at number A hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy six. No one's proud in a Starbucks unless you're
Speaker 1: managing a thriving location. And then you have and then
Speaker 1: I would walk around with my hands on my hips
Speaker 1: and saying this land is my lab. I would just
Speaker 1: be very like, I'm so happy of the community I've
Speaker 1: created here. Yes, I find that oftentimes the community seems
Speaker 1: very good. Amongst the Starbucks workers. Absolutely, I feel like Starbucks.
Speaker 1: I mean, we love Howard. Oh I'm just kidding. Wait,
Speaker 1: does Howard Schultz really own the Starbucks? Yes? Is that
Speaker 1: his client to fame? Yes, that's the whole reason we care.
Speaker 1: Why am I such a Starbucks bitch? We all are, actually,
Speaker 1: and so are you. I made no gestures at not
Speaker 1: being one a Starbucks bitch. Now now, now you might
Speaker 1: be asking, who the heck was that sultry tones? Who's Connecticut?
Speaker 1: Beautiful connect beautiful? Sultry Connecticut sound? Was that? That? Actually?
Speaker 1: What happened to be our guests? Now, now here's the
Speaker 1: thing about our guests. Here's the thing about our guests.
Speaker 1: Our guest is currently nine months and one week pregnant.
Speaker 1: And then she goes, well, we'll get into this. She goes, guys,
Speaker 1: she tells us two boys who don't know, who will
Speaker 1: never never know. She goes, pregnancy is actually ten months.
Speaker 1: They don't tell you. That shook me, and that shook me.
Speaker 1: She is so fantastic. She and I go way way back.
Speaker 1: Do you go way back? Well, we were deep in
Speaker 1: the trenches for this pilot presentation that didn't go. I
Speaker 1: love a pilot presentation. I find a pilot presentation so
Speaker 1: thrilling it was. I mean, I love presenting something. Everyone
Speaker 1: is every Yeah, we love presenting a pilot. What was it?
Speaker 1: It was America's least wanted when yeah, yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: um was it was a fun old time and just
Speaker 1: did it didn't go? Okay, that's fine, but you know
Speaker 1: it did. Gob growing inside and the album inside he
Speaker 1: has given birth already to Undefeated, the Undefeated, the album
Speaker 1: literally Undefeated, number one on I on the charts whatever.
Speaker 1: And now it's like fluctuating a little bit, and like,
Speaker 1: who cares that happens? But she she shot all the
Speaker 1: way at the number one, She's all the way to
Speaker 1: the rule culture number ninety one. Fluctuation happens. It's such
Speaker 1: a good album, Undefeated. Um you can hear the guy
Speaker 1: Random's laughing, and was he there? Oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is not Guy Brandom, but it is a comedian who
Speaker 1: has an identical laugh. That's a wolf. And if you
Speaker 1: go to a comedy club in New York or l
Speaker 1: A with a Guy Brandom laugh, you think it's guy
Speaker 1: and it's not a guy that's a threat. That's that's
Speaker 1: a threat to Matt. Okay, but we're so happy that's here.
Speaker 1: Do you guys know, Ira Madison, I think and guy
Speaker 1: have a similar okay interesting similar similar papal laugh um
Speaker 1: but they But wow, this our guest is so fantastic,
Speaker 1: an amazing writer, stand up performer, actress, and I don't think, Um,
Speaker 1: we're so happy to have her here. Please welcome into
Speaker 1: your ears. Oh my god, what a dream. I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to be here. Have you. I have touched both
Speaker 1: of you vaguely through pilot presentations on a pilot presentation.
Speaker 1: Well it was a full pilot. It was a full pilot,
Speaker 1: a full pilot, but one was cast in and we
Speaker 1: only met during the filming and we were like, what's
Speaker 1: happening here? But I thought that you were so fun
Speaker 1: and finding in it. And then I last summer wrote
Speaker 1: on a Bravo reboot of of Blinding the famously misogynistic
Speaker 1: and second like horrible game show note that they're trying
Speaker 1: to bring back and repurpose that Matt was very far
Speaker 1: along casting process for. But don't worry. I also don't
Speaker 1: think he's going I will have to say I really
Speaker 1: felt good about like that. I thought it was going well,
Speaker 1: and then you texted me and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: Garril's in the room, maybe this will help. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: I like your tape is so great. Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: know who they went with, Carson Gressley, who was like
Speaker 1: an establis that You're like, but but then why did
Speaker 1: you bring in every young star in the comedy scene
Speaker 1: like you wanted to discover new talent and then you
Speaker 1: were like, let's go back to well, I'm always like
Speaker 1: fully blown away when these places can afford to fly
Speaker 1: people out, I know, and multiple times like it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Money is not a thing, I guess to the wealthy,
Speaker 1: the wealthy, powerful connected industry folks. Absolutely, I mean almost
Speaker 1: then you have touched us both. Yeah, I've touched both
Speaker 1: of you. I feel in various pilot ways. But like
Speaker 1: hopefully one day we'll all just be working on something
Speaker 1: that goes. We were putting that on into the atmosphere. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so explain this. Ten months, So pregnancy is forty weeks.
Speaker 1: So forty weeks divided by four is ten months. Like
Speaker 1: you don't usually really go like maybe two I'm not
Speaker 1: going to go to full ten months, but it's closed
Speaker 1: heer to ten months. Yeah, I don't know. I don't really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't really get why they do. But but I
Speaker 1: think it's because I think it's because you are technically pregnant,
Speaker 1: like two weeks before you even have the sex that
Speaker 1: gets you pregnant. Because they go from they go from
Speaker 1: your period and stuff like that. This is disgusting love
Speaker 1: diss develops. Yeah, it's like basically they can only judge
Speaker 1: it from your period because that's more accurate because you
Speaker 1: could be having sex like utible days and so they
Speaker 1: judge it from your last day of of your of
Speaker 1: menstruation and so then yeah, so it's all goofy. But
Speaker 1: I basically did a show last night where I was like,
Speaker 1: I am nine months and one week pregnant, and the
Speaker 1: audience gas because they truly thought I was going to
Speaker 1: and I do like a whole bit where I get
Speaker 1: down low on the ground, and I think they were
Speaker 1: so I thought I was going to, like chopple over.
Speaker 1: When you said nine months in one week pregnant, I
Speaker 1: thought in my head, oh my god, her water will
Speaker 1: break on this episode of Last Cult. And if that
Speaker 1: does happen. I will say this, My number one priority
Speaker 1: will be getting you to the hospital. My second priority
Speaker 1: is this episode has to come out of me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I put you in the stream, turned to turned to
Speaker 1: hot associated producer, and I would say, we gotta rush this.
Speaker 1: We gotta rush this one. We gotta rush. God, we
Speaker 1: have the scoop on carrot planks. Water breaking. I want
Speaker 1: this episode out for the baby's name. Another another myth.
Speaker 1: Water doesn't break like a ton of the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a lot of times the doctor breaks your water
Speaker 1: for you when you're at the hospital, like a lot
Speaker 1: of And it's also not the gush you see and
Speaker 1: like romance, like like it's sometimes it's just like am
Speaker 1: I peeing my pants a little bit? And That's what
Speaker 1: I've been told a right, sometimes only a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just so it's wild. I guess I'll just see
Speaker 1: what happens for me. Wow. I mean it is like
Speaker 1: and I didn't know I was pregnant kind of thing
Speaker 1: where it's like sometimes it's like none of the signs
Speaker 1: are there and the baby comes out of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's insane that I didn't know it was I was pregnant.
Speaker 1: Thing is psycho. To me is does that mean that
Speaker 1: something else is going on? In my opinion, something else
Speaker 1: psychologically going on. I mean I've talked to my mother
Speaker 1: in law about this, who used to be like an E. R.
Speaker 1: Nurse in West Virginia, and she was like, it's denial.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of the time they're like something's wrong,
Speaker 1: but because I am growing baby inside me and I
Speaker 1: cannot ignore it, liken't know it is pounding at the
Speaker 1: door constantly, like yeah, it's a very substantial body change.
Speaker 1: And also, I mean I think also if you're massively overweight,
Speaker 1: I think that that can mask the first two months,
Speaker 1: but even still when you get to the end, it's
Speaker 1: like there's clearly something in there. There's something like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's the bubble hitting the like
Speaker 1: never the storyline on Madman the first season when Peggy
Speaker 1: gives birth, Yeah, that's to me, that was like a
Speaker 1: denial like she knew, like okay, so she was like
Speaker 1: my my career and like I can't this is going
Speaker 1: to be too shameful on my family or whatever. Right, right,
Speaker 1: So you've had we were talking before you came in.
Speaker 1: You've had like a good, comfortable pregnant. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel really lucky. I've been. I felt really good the
Speaker 1: whole time. I've been performing the whole time. I can't
Speaker 1: believe that you had an album come out. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been but I've been fine, And I honestly like, here's
Speaker 1: I'm like such a true extrovert, Like i love being
Speaker 1: around other people so much that I'm so scared for
Speaker 1: the next month when I'm just sitting in a house
Speaker 1: with my husband and a baby. I just feel like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so bored that I'm literally just like
Speaker 1: soaking up shows, parties, like whatever i can do to
Speaker 1: be around other people. But everyone's like no where, everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna come over, and like, you're not gonna be alone,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: You're not because if you have that resolve to not
Speaker 1: be alone, or if you're if you're trying to get
Speaker 1: that out of your system now to like go to
Speaker 1: all these things and see people, because something will change
Speaker 1: dramatically when the baby arrives, which it might and it
Speaker 1: maybe will, but like you that that part of your
Speaker 1: life will not end with right right right right now.
Speaker 1: Is there a plan with you and your husband to
Speaker 1: like like he's going to be at home. Obviously he's
Speaker 1: not gonna keep doing his shows, is he. Well, he
Speaker 1: is probably gonna keep booking shows. God, what, Well, here's
Speaker 1: the thing. We run a show together. We run a
Speaker 1: show together in West Hollywood. If you ever any listeners
Speaker 1: like are bar Lu Bitch in beautiful West Hollywood every Thursday.
Speaker 1: It's called Better Half Comedy because we are married. And um,
Speaker 1: I think he's going to keep posting that. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to slow down on like probably regular spots
Speaker 1: like yeah, he is actually going on a road gig
Speaker 1: two days before I'm do just like what which everybody
Speaker 1: is like, what wait a minute? Is it high paying
Speaker 1: and high power? It's in Wilmington Worth, Caroline, listen, listen.
Speaker 1: My doctor said, I really don't think that you're going
Speaker 1: to go early, so she kind of gave him the
Speaker 1: okay to go. So you at nine months in one
Speaker 1: week pregnant. Your do date is April five. Day is
Speaker 1: April five, but I might go a few days earlier
Speaker 1: than that. Okay, Okay, Well, I like you like your
Speaker 1: doctor or not? I mean your doctors signed off. So
Speaker 1: funny because he keeps being like, I'll be on a
Speaker 1: plane back home and I go from Wilmington's like connecting
Speaker 1: through Atlanta. Like there's not like a red eye that
Speaker 1: takes you in the middle of the night to l A.
Speaker 1: There's not just it's not just this thing of like
Speaker 1: I'm heading to the airport. It's like you have to
Speaker 1: get a flight and make sure it's like six hours lights.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would be panicked. I'm sure you
Speaker 1: know about it a decision for you, but as a
Speaker 1: part of it, as as a part of it now,
Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, you'll be in l A. I'll
Speaker 1: just call you honestly that the water has be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm already at the hospital laying down
Speaker 1: a sheet. I don't know why. I'm just doing towels,
Speaker 1: like just lay like comfortable surface, make every surface as
Speaker 1: comfortable as possible. I'm always scared when because you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes I've watched baby birth videos. Okay, did you just
Speaker 1: watch one? Are you horrified? Yeah? Okay, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: don't like bringing this up to pregnant women, but the
Speaker 1: birthing process, like it fascinates me. But like I always
Speaker 1: think the baby comes out so fast. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: they don't tell you. Once it's coming out, it shoots out,
Speaker 1: shoots out, it's ejected. And so that's why I feel
Speaker 1: we need to make sure there's a matt on the
Speaker 1: ground some like one of those like like like a
Speaker 1: ball pit ball oh, like fun zone. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: is cheese give birth and a fun zone or chuck
Speaker 1: e cheese. I'm sort of playtime adjacent. Yeah, get that kid,
Speaker 1: like all the antim but like they're going to be
Speaker 1: exposed to so much bacteria and give them those antibodies.
Speaker 1: They're like push not too hard because you can count
Speaker 1: in that thing out god bazukazka. I mean when you
Speaker 1: watch a video, they slide right out. They really do.
Speaker 1: It's kind of disturbing, Okay, And like I still have
Speaker 1: there's still I still have such a lack of understanding
Speaker 1: about how these things get logistically planned where it's just like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: your doctor is going to be there with you the
Speaker 1: drop of a hat. These doctors wire like like like
Speaker 1: I assume your doctor is gonna like I don't really
Speaker 1: get the life of like you know, b g y
Speaker 1: And I'm like, can you ever make a dinner reservation?
Speaker 1: Don't really like I mean, obviously you go to the
Speaker 1: hospital and they check you and they check you, and
Speaker 1: the doctor doesn't come in until you're really ready. Like
Speaker 1: when you tear about the women laboring for twelve hours,
Speaker 1: the doctor is not there the whole time. They come
Speaker 1: in like at the end. So but I should like
Speaker 1: ask her, that's a really I'm always like, what's your life?
Speaker 1: You know, she wouse because my mom is a doctor,
Speaker 1: but like a pediatrician, Like she's just like gives a
Speaker 1: home and it's like taking a max of zone and
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like it's not like she ever
Speaker 1: had to leave a family trip to like go to
Speaker 1: the hospitally, like that's always in movies. The thing though,
Speaker 1: it's like my doctors in Psycho, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: like for some reason the doctor is like so not
Speaker 1: even like not in town. They're like out of the country.
Speaker 1: But that's happened several times, Like I think that happened
Speaker 1: and knocked up and knocked up the doctor was like
Speaker 1: on vacation or like, and that's why she gets Ken John,
Speaker 1: who was like a dick to her, and she's like
Speaker 1: I hate this guy. That was like Ken John's first
Speaker 1: first big thing. Yeah, Alison Jones baby Alison Jones casting,
Speaker 1: but you're probably not. Are you consuming a lot of
Speaker 1: media about you know what? I just watched Tully. Oh,
Speaker 1: I haven't watched that. I watched it. Do not watch it.
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. I don't think it will excite you. Okay.
Speaker 1: It seems like like I think the reason I didn'tatch
Speaker 1: it because the entire time it's been out I've either
Speaker 1: been trying to get pregnant or pregnant. And I was like,
Speaker 1: it seems like a woman who's deeply unhappy. That movie
Speaker 1: is like about a lot of other things, but like
Speaker 1: it would as a as a as an impending mother,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like maybe wait anyway anyway to the baby's
Speaker 1: like you know seven yeading impending mother. Potential title of
Speaker 1: a yes, impending mother. Um, so here's a question, because
Speaker 1: you look great, are you working out? Like? What? How
Speaker 1: is that work? I was trying to work out a
Speaker 1: little bit the first like until we hit like six
Speaker 1: or seven months, and then I just was like I'm
Speaker 1: so big, Like I'm trying to do walks and stuff,
Speaker 1: but like I was going to spin and obviously not
Speaker 1: doing the like and then I just we moved also,
Speaker 1: so like our whole gym situation changed. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: also tall, so I think I carry it a different
Speaker 1: way than like when you see some shorter girls that
Speaker 1: just look like and I haven't swelled up a lot,
Speaker 1: which is which is nice. I mean it's distributed to one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's all here. I mean, I'm sure it's going
Speaker 1: to be like a night we're trying to get rid
Speaker 1: of all of it when it's gone to get back
Speaker 1: to my you know, society proved to post baby by
Speaker 1: there you go. But that's why I think this whole
Speaker 1: thing of like when people say like, oh, you're carrying
Speaker 1: it this way, like it must be a boy or
Speaker 1: a girl, that doesn't make any sense to me because
Speaker 1: tall women carry a completely Like also, everyone's body is
Speaker 1: literally different culture number ninety six and one's body is
Speaker 1: literally different. Um so anyone that comes up and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a girl, because it's like my husband was like,
Speaker 1: because a lot of my friends started writing me text
Speaker 1: being like I had a dream you're having a boy,
Speaker 1: or I had did this tree? He goes, well, your
Speaker 1: sudden your friends are all witches. Like everyone just everyone's
Speaker 1: in a coven now, and they also like to know
Speaker 1: what you're Yeah, it's like I'm just waiting to see
Speaker 1: what happens. But I was telling him before when you
Speaker 1: were out for a second bo and like every single
Speaker 1: that looks at me tells me I'm having a boy now.
Speaker 1: But she feels as if it's a girl. But that
Speaker 1: could also just be like a little bit of a
Speaker 1: wishful thinking thing, like no offense to my future son
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast. Um, but yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I don't know who cares. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care. That's why I'm not finding out.
Speaker 1: And that's where you find who even cares, even even cares.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so so that I mean, like what is
Speaker 1: like how would you rationalize the reason why you guys
Speaker 1: don't want to find out. It's like, um, my parents
Speaker 1: didn't and so I was like to my husband, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, my parents never found out.
Speaker 1: He was like, let's not find out. We just thought
Speaker 1: it would be like fun kind of also like a
Speaker 1: fun surprise. Yes, also like if you trace back humanity,
Speaker 1: like they've never known, we're not supposed to know. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I guess then people would say, like, because we have
Speaker 1: the ability to do the technology, we and we found
Speaker 1: that ourselves. We are supposed to know technically, but like
Speaker 1: I feel like that moment of it's a blank, it's
Speaker 1: so fun. Yeah, not that that is the baby's actual gender,
Speaker 1: that moment yeah, yes, yes, yes, okay, I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that, love that a lot. Well, listen, if
Speaker 1: we meet the baby today, imagine if imagine the water
Speaker 1: does break and like we have to become he is luckily,
Speaker 1: like you know, at least was pretty mad. I know
Speaker 1: I cannot. I am not equipped to do anything. You
Speaker 1: are you are, believe you and I will be so
Speaker 1: like fun, I don't have to name it like Bowen Matthew,
Speaker 1: three first names. M Okay, So listen, we've talked baby,
Speaker 1: let's talk baby. Um, that's you. I pointed to, thank you.
Speaker 1: So what we ask all of our guests when they
Speaker 1: come on last culture is what was the culture that
Speaker 1: made you say? Culture was for you? So basically, this
Speaker 1: is defining pop culture of your life that sent you
Speaker 1: in a direction. Stuff you can remember from when you
Speaker 1: were like or something, anything you've been really obsessed with.
Speaker 1: That's like a lot of my personality is based on
Speaker 1: this pop culture. Okay okay, okay, um okay. Well, if
Speaker 1: I think back to like elementary school and what I
Speaker 1: was truly obsessed with, it was Bette Midler, Like I was, like,
Speaker 1: I was truly so I had at one point just
Speaker 1: seen everything she'd ever done, and like I had birthday
Speaker 1: parties every year where we would do hair. My mom
Speaker 1: would just like buy a bunch of moose and we
Speaker 1: would just do hair and launch beaches. And that was
Speaker 1: my birthday party, like four years in a row. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Like I thought, I just thought she was
Speaker 1: like so brassy and like fun, and I was like
Speaker 1: I just loved her, and so yeah, I was that.
Speaker 1: I have to say, she's a key piece. So so
Speaker 1: has this has this um still the test of time?
Speaker 1: Did you see um? Like what Hello Dolly, Hello Dolly,
Speaker 1: you guys. I tried, I literally tried. I was in
Speaker 1: New York and I was I got to New York
Speaker 1: once right when she was ending and passing the torch
Speaker 1: to burn it atte and I still should have gone
Speaker 1: to see burn it up, but it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was dying to see her in it, and I
Speaker 1: just I've been out I've live in l A. Like,
Speaker 1: you have this great joke on your album that has
Speaker 1: to do with that, um so paraphrase it. Kara has
Speaker 1: this joke, but she's like, it's like, I love l A.
Speaker 1: But I had the most l A moment at this
Speaker 1: where I ordered a grilled cheese and the and the
Speaker 1: guy was like, oh, yeah, great, um just so you
Speaker 1: know what the cheese. It's gonna be vegan cheese. Is
Speaker 1: that okay? And then Karra goes, oh, absolutely, the funk
Speaker 1: not because getting like like there's no part of a
Speaker 1: grilled cheese that does any work besides the cheese. And
Speaker 1: then she's like, being told that it's going to be
Speaker 1: vegan cheese and a grilled cheese sandwich is like waiting
Speaker 1: in line for hours for Hello Dolly to see bet
Speaker 1: Midler and then when you get there, they say, actually
Speaker 1: it's gonna be snooky. You guys like that ended a
Speaker 1: set on that last night and they were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I'm a vegetarian, but I draw
Speaker 1: the line of vegan cheese. It's just cheese. How long
Speaker 1: you been vegetarian? Eleven years? Good for you, that's vegetarian Midler.
Speaker 1: Let's wait, let's keep talking about that. Well, okay, so
Speaker 1: is there a piece of Bett Miller media that we
Speaker 1: all must see? I mean the roses Like, okay, so
Speaker 1: like the rose and beaches and all that stuff, but
Speaker 1: like I love all these like deep cut movies. She
Speaker 1: was like she was in this movie called um. I
Speaker 1: think it's called Stella where she's like a bad mom,
Speaker 1: just like a partying mom and um. And then I
Speaker 1: love the one Outrageous Fortune. I love UM big business,
Speaker 1: like I just I like just like her and Lily
Speaker 1: Tomlin as the Twins. I was like, I'm obsessed with this,
Speaker 1: like I think it just was like the stuff that
Speaker 1: made me be like women are funny, Like this is
Speaker 1: what I'm into. And then I saw that Midler at
Speaker 1: the mall when I was I talked about it in
Speaker 1: this very room on the Mall Talk podcast because I
Speaker 1: grew up in Connecticut, and they filmed the movie scenes
Speaker 1: from them all with Woody Allen. It's a very less
Speaker 1: renown Woodyer Middler vehicle. I don't think it was very good,
Speaker 1: but they filmed it at our mall and I was
Speaker 1: walking through the mall with my mom and I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to be in this movie, Mom, can I
Speaker 1: be an extra? And she was like yeah, yeah, like
Speaker 1: I'll check on it, and and and I go, I
Speaker 1: just want to meet at Midler and she goes, well,
Speaker 1: there she is right there, and the miller walked right
Speaker 1: by almost so cash like she could not she could
Speaker 1: care less about like celebrity people like. And she was
Speaker 1: like and I was like, oh my god. We followed
Speaker 1: her to a homewear store and I was like, eleven.
Speaker 1: My mom goes go say something to her, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I couldn't. She was with her daughter. I
Speaker 1: felt intrusseive even at eleven. I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: be that person. And it's one of my biggest regrets
Speaker 1: that you didn't say, but what would But it's like
Speaker 1: you said, it's like you were eleven years old, and
Speaker 1: how would you have My mom was like, go tell
Speaker 1: her that you really like her movies. And I was
Speaker 1: like I could never like it was. And then every
Speaker 1: time my dad would like into my teen years, I
Speaker 1: would like sometimes be staring out the window of the car.
Speaker 1: My dad would go, what are you thinking about? And
Speaker 1: I'd go that I never said I truly think about
Speaker 1: it all the time Like that it's such a brow
Speaker 1: at eleven years old. Like once I had the opportunity
Speaker 1: to meet Kelly Clarkson one time right over there, and
Speaker 1: I was fully twenty eight years old, and I started crying.
Speaker 1: So at eleven years old, forget the people that. Like,
Speaker 1: I was a page at NBC for a year and
Speaker 1: I was the cone in page, so like I didn't
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, So I would like escort all the
Speaker 1: celebrities up and like after day three, you're like, okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: one who cares? I mean you, Like I was ad
Speaker 1: snl to like I would see the famous people and
Speaker 1: be like, I don't care. But then when Tina Fe
Speaker 1: came on, I was like, do you need a cookie?
Speaker 1: Like I was so like, which is when you meet
Speaker 1: people that you really really like, you're like. But with that,
Speaker 1: I mean it's that she's an icon, like a show
Speaker 1: bisy icon. Yeah. But no, but now you work in
Speaker 1: I feel like like it's in the stars that you
Speaker 1: will probably run into her again, I hope. So I
Speaker 1: just was standing so close to Lily tom on the
Speaker 1: other day or something. It was like I wanted I
Speaker 1: could say hi to her too, but she was like
Speaker 1: in a combo. Sure, but you don't. You don't want
Speaker 1: to interrupt. Yeah, yeah, actual number sixty. You don't want to,
Speaker 1: especially not with Lily Tomlin, because I also feel like
Speaker 1: she could turn on the head. But what the fun
Speaker 1: I'm talking to something. It wasn't I wasn't positive dealer out.
Speaker 1: Did you see the you've seen the famous video of
Speaker 1: her and David Russell fighting on the set of My Artime. Okay,
Speaker 1: Lily Tomlin and David Russell, Oh my god, years ago,
Speaker 1: like on the set of I Heard Huckabees, like apparently
Speaker 1: it was like a very intense set because of him. Well, yes,
Speaker 1: he's you know, one of those directors who was really
Speaker 1: tough on set. Amy Adams has said this as well,
Speaker 1: expressed as much that he was like borderline to her
Speaker 1: on Inside of American Hustle. Um. But and he also
Speaker 1: famously got into a fist fight with George Katy on
Speaker 1: the set of Three Kings years ago. He's like, he's
Speaker 1: he's like one of the one of those directs. Okay,
Speaker 1: so um, there's video of Lily Tomlin just like losing
Speaker 1: her ship because she wasn't like being respected to talk to,
Speaker 1: and then he fully calls her the s it's it's horrible.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like this is a toxic environment. And
Speaker 1: then there's a scene where they're all in a car
Speaker 1: together shooting a car Naomi Watts I think, Jason Schore
Speaker 1: and then um Dustin Hoffman. Yeah, and they're all in
Speaker 1: this car and she's like going off and David you
Speaker 1: can hear David Russell offset and they're all just sitting there.
Speaker 1: It's just so funny to watch the human behavior. And
Speaker 1: that's my god. And on YouTube, you guys just set
Speaker 1: my afternoon up for me. There you go, it's really good.
Speaker 1: Watch that, and then watch the video of reason by
Speaker 1: this one getting arrested. I've seen that. I've seen that.
Speaker 1: That's iconic, Like true, do you like, do you know
Speaker 1: who my father is? Mom? Like, so good? Do you
Speaker 1: know who I am? I am? This is gonna be
Speaker 1: national news. You're arresting me. This is beyond, this is beyond.
Speaker 1: I'm an American citizen sitting on American ground. Possible idea
Speaker 1: for a future short too short. No, it's it's just no,
Speaker 1: it's it's actually it's the most grounded thing that's based
Speaker 1: most in reality, that it is purely unpolished, just material
Speaker 1: should truly be like an n y U monologue resting,
Speaker 1: and then she's in the back of the police car
Speaker 1: by herself, and she's like arresting me. She's by herself.
Speaker 1: She's out and then I need to know what's going on, ma'am,
Speaker 1: go see in the car. And then the police officer
Speaker 1: has the most ridiculous Southern accent. And then she comes
Speaker 1: out to and she goes, I'm pregnant. She was The
Speaker 1: thing is I'm pregnant, and she wasted visibly. She was
Speaker 1: on the Today Shew like two days later to publicly
Speaker 1: apologize and she It's so funny because she's like, another
Speaker 1: thing is I said I was pregnant. I'm not. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I said that. The thing is I'm pregnant,
Speaker 1: and have you okay? And just to go back to
Speaker 1: the pregnant starting your justice? I'm starting your justice really
Speaker 1: interesting interesting, interesting. So it's her best performance that big
Speaker 1: little eyes, legally blonde all the way down the lists
Speaker 1: walked the line and then where's Alection write about? Right?
Speaker 1: Election is icon? Yeah, she's amazing though, um so yes,
Speaker 1: Bett Miller, how are you feel about the First Wives
Speaker 1: Club the reboots? Well or in the movie both the
Speaker 1: movie both how do you feel about the movie and
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts about the reboot hasn't come out yet.
Speaker 1: A friend of mine like love like, will support anything
Speaker 1: she does, truly would watch her read the phone Book,
Speaker 1: The First Wives Club, the movie I like, I like it.
Speaker 1: It's not my favorite bet thing, of course, but I
Speaker 1: love it. I mean, but yet it is my favorite
Speaker 1: Goldie Haunt thing. I mean, I mean, but for me
Speaker 1: Goldie Haunt. It's a big Death Becomes Her. I just
Speaker 1: watched her for the first time. So for Joel's birthday,
Speaker 1: it was me, Joel, Lewis Fortell and um Nico was
Speaker 1: there too. All we're watching Death Becomes Her for the
Speaker 1: very first time. It was no. I was the only
Speaker 1: one that hadn't seen it, and I was obsessed and
Speaker 1: I said, Yang, you and I have to redo that.
Speaker 1: You guys, like, did you know also that that movie,
Speaker 1: I think either one or was nominated for an Oscar
Speaker 1: for c g I. It was the very movie that
Speaker 1: did stuff like that in the ninety like with the
Speaker 1: whole in her body, and it was the first visual
Speaker 1: effects Oscar given. Wow it won, Okay, I was I
Speaker 1: had literally was just Wikipedia and that becomes for like
Speaker 1: a week. Why, I just it is bonkers crazy and
Speaker 1: you could never make that movie now because it's so
Speaker 1: like long, like the third act is like entirely leaves
Speaker 1: the game of the movie behind. It's so crazy, but
Speaker 1: just and just like a serious actress like Meryl Streep
Speaker 1: also being in a movie like that like now now, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's so good. And I said to I turned to Joel,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this might be my favorite Meryl. Really,
Speaker 1: it's so good. She's so like Pulpy in it and
Speaker 1: big and everything is like and I kind of love
Speaker 1: when Meryl is like really really letting go. Do you
Speaker 1: know what? Also, Meryl is so good? And is she
Speaker 1: devilr No, it's like a Clank family favorite. Like we
Speaker 1: used to watch it like all the time, you know,
Speaker 1: when like h we had HBO and so like whatever
Speaker 1: was rotating on HBO was one and like it would
Speaker 1: just beyond all the time. We were like, I was
Speaker 1: bonkers for she Devil at Begley Jr. Meryl Streep, h
Speaker 1: Roseanne bar and I don't support Roseanne, but that movie
Speaker 1: is a great. Okay, I need to check out that role.
Speaker 1: It's fully a romance novelist in it like so big
Speaker 1: and broad. I love it just how you like her,
Speaker 1: because the thing is like Meryl does big, but it's
Speaker 1: still like acting, like it's so one scene she's like
Speaker 1: really crying, but it's like this big, stupid sobiacting that
Speaker 1: you could tell they called cut and she was like
Speaker 1: it was done, you know what I mean. She's so
Speaker 1: good and she's like very vain in it. I really
Speaker 1: like watching Meryl play vainue, like very obsessed with her
Speaker 1: looks like it's very funny. That was the whole message
Speaker 1: of the movie, right right. She kind of did that,
Speaker 1: and she kind of did that and it's complicated a
Speaker 1: little bit where she whi she was basically doing a
Speaker 1: Diane Keaton in its complicated. Well, now you're getting into
Speaker 1: my truly favorite genre, which is later in life romance.
Speaker 1: Like it is just my dream Like it's complicated. Something
Speaker 1: That's got to Give is my one of my ultimates.
Speaker 1: That's one of I think it is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite roundcoms ever. Yeah, something, I truly love it so much.
Speaker 1: I like I like downloaded on on Lime Wire, like
Speaker 1: most of the French songs that are in it. That movie,
Speaker 1: I love that movie, and what are the other ones?
Speaker 1: I mean all that, I mean the Nancy, but also
Speaker 1: like just whenever it's like terms of fifty and I
Speaker 1: think it's over for me, but then I've meet someone
Speaker 1: and I'm still going to work out. You guys, I
Speaker 1: liked book Here's the thing. I loved Book Clubs so much.
Speaker 1: And you guys know Elliott Glazer, right, Elliott had hated
Speaker 1: it so much that he hadn't come on his podcast
Speaker 1: and we debated it, and everything that he hated about
Speaker 1: it was what I loved exactly. Not everything. It's such
Speaker 1: a whacking. Yes, things don't have to be good to
Speaker 1: be good, right, right? That wasn't like. I wasn't like
Speaker 1: book club was snubbed at the Oscar. It wasn't that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just was like, I mean, any the things he
Speaker 1: points out, like like I'm sorry when she's just in
Speaker 1: full clothes on a pool float in Sedona, like what's
Speaker 1: going on? And that would that had the exterior shots
Speaker 1: of that house were clearly out of sounds like, but
Speaker 1: but you're right, like, not everything has to be important. No,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Sometimes movies are just movies because they
Speaker 1: four of them decided to sign off and vis Berken
Speaker 1: had two weeks and she said, yeah, I'll do this,
Speaker 1: and iveryone was like yay, right. I was like, when
Speaker 1: are you going to see four like post menopausal women
Speaker 1: headlining a movie. This is amazing and they're all legends.
Speaker 1: Like I loved it. I like was obsessed with the
Speaker 1: fact that, like I think Jane Fonda is eighty and
Speaker 1: Mary Stein virgin is and they're like in a posse
Speaker 1: together and there's an eighteen year different. I love it.
Speaker 1: And also anytime Mary Steenbergen is given an opportunity to
Speaker 1: like just be on stage for more than I mean,
Speaker 1: be on a movie for more than twenty minutes, that
Speaker 1: is a good. It's a good. And she I thought
Speaker 1: was like that was truly the grown up version of
Speaker 1: her character and parenthood just really like this really sweet
Speaker 1: woman who just wants things to work out, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And and it Step Brothers too. She's
Speaker 1: kind of like yeah, because I had been watching her
Speaker 1: so much in Last Man and where she's kind of
Speaker 1: this bitch, and like it was like the return to
Speaker 1: the sweet. What was her line in Stepbrothers, Like when
Speaker 1: she like breaks up the fight and she just I
Speaker 1: don't know she screams someone. I'm famously not Strothers. I've
Speaker 1: only seen it like one time at home. I liked it,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember. I don't love John Riley, but
Speaker 1: it's it's such a good movie. I love Will Ferrell.
Speaker 1: I just something about John when he does comedy. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I feel you trying, like I don't find him list Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: we removed. I don't like I don't particularly feel a
Speaker 1: strong way about John c Riley, but it's like you
Speaker 1: have like Adams. I was going to say, live for
Speaker 1: Adam Scott and icon just the whole sweet child that
Speaker 1: might not Capella. Thing in the car is like so
Speaker 1: adamkis and now like also the sign I almost had
Speaker 1: the day side he's got it seems to me it
Speaker 1: reminds me of childhood. I saw myself and that kid,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I respect amazing, but like now it's
Speaker 1: like Anim's going to direct like a Thoros film and
Speaker 1: he like just did like you know Vice? Yeah? Did
Speaker 1: you like Vice? Okay, here's the thing I felt like
Speaker 1: during that election, I was like abroad and so I
Speaker 1: don't didn't know a lot about Dick Cheney so I
Speaker 1: liked the movie because it was so educational for me.
Speaker 1: If you already know that Dick Cheney is like the devil,
Speaker 1: then then I would say, like that movie was like
Speaker 1: a little boring, Like my husband found it boring, but
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't know all this stuff, so
Speaker 1: like for me, I learned a lot from it, but
Speaker 1: I didn't think it should have been like in the
Speaker 1: top ten movies nominating you know what about you guys?
Speaker 1: And I actually really liked it, y yeah, And I
Speaker 1: remember I saw it like a sag screening and I
Speaker 1: really liked it, and then left the theater and I
Speaker 1: was there with like a bunch of critics, like it
Speaker 1: was like a screening opportunity for critics, and based on
Speaker 1: that screening, they did reviews, and I left the movie.
Speaker 1: This is where I'm like, maybe I'm like fully out
Speaker 1: of touch, but I left the movie thinking that's going
Speaker 1: to get great reviews. And then like Richard Lawson, who
Speaker 1: was there and like everyone that was there, gave it
Speaker 1: such negative reviews and it ended up being like a
Speaker 1: very mixed reviewed film, And so to see it nomine
Speaker 1: for Best Picture was surprising. I was surprised. I was
Speaker 1: actually surprised that earned a negative reaction because I thought
Speaker 1: it was very effective, But then again, the criticism of
Speaker 1: it being like Michael Moore the movie, I understand, it's
Speaker 1: very preachy and like yeah, and like I mean also
Speaker 1: they're like I just really quickly because we don't need
Speaker 1: this isn't a vice podcast. But like you know, he
Speaker 1: the beginning of the movie, he's like this sort of
Speaker 1: dirt bag and his wife's like straightened up, and then
Speaker 1: we cut to him in congress. I just would have
Speaker 1: liked to have seen where he like what happened, But
Speaker 1: I thought that was almost a comments on how easy
Speaker 1: it is for to get in those positions. But was
Speaker 1: he rich because he was like he was doing power line,
Speaker 1: I would say he wasn't rich. He was connected, okay,
Speaker 1: and I think that was because of Lynn and maybe
Speaker 1: one of his parents spent five d thousand dollars to
Speaker 1: get him into us. Oh my god, I can't believe
Speaker 1: that we're recording in March sixteenth. That story is only
Speaker 1: four days old. It's psycho and it's already like permeate
Speaker 1: for me, it's like fully permeated into it's part of
Speaker 1: the culture. Now culture. Yeah, well, Joel had a good
Speaker 1: tweet and I heard somebody also say the exact same
Speaker 1: sentiment on Pod Save America that like it reminded me.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is the kind of news that
Speaker 1: we would talk about for two weeks before we were
Speaker 1: just like Trump every day. It was like not even
Speaker 1: it was like twenty four minute news cycle. Yeah, Like seriously,
Speaker 1: I mean I grew up in the town like where
Speaker 1: college was so important and like status, like that was
Speaker 1: so important. You grew up in Connecticut, yes, and every
Speaker 1: like they printed the list of where everybody went to
Speaker 1: college in the town paper, like it was like a
Speaker 1: huge thing. Like even though Yukon is a wonderful, wonderful school,
Speaker 1: it was like embarrassing to go to you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because you were instead it was easier for
Speaker 1: you to get in as a Connecticut you know, resident,
Speaker 1: And like I was like I always heard I mean,
Speaker 1: I knew idiots that went to good schools because they
Speaker 1: could play football or like oh their dad is the
Speaker 1: head of a bank or something like that. So none
Speaker 1: of that was surprising to me. The cheating on the
Speaker 1: tests like the A, C. T and stuff and is
Speaker 1: so wild like and also the photo shopping of the
Speaker 1: photo shopping of the water pole of the people. That's like,
Speaker 1: that's actually stupid. Yeah, that's just plain stupid. Okay, we
Speaker 1: have a question. How would people feel about people going
Speaker 1: to Newhaven. We're going to basically just Yale. It was
Speaker 1: that like a thing where it was like, well it's
Speaker 1: just no, no, no Yale. But just within Connecticut. But
Speaker 1: if you go, if you go, if you went to
Speaker 1: Columbia and New York, it's still Columbia. Yeah. There the
Speaker 1: I I went to school in Connecticut, but I went
Speaker 1: to a private school like I went to and people
Speaker 1: were like it was all about where it was ranked
Speaker 1: and blah blah. That is a thing we actually were
Speaker 1: talking on. We did an episode recently. We talked about
Speaker 1: like S A T scores and A C T scores
Speaker 1: and the ranking of classes not not classes, um, when
Speaker 1: they would give you in high school, like what rank
Speaker 1: you were? Did they do this? We had two seventy
Speaker 1: seven kids in our grade and I remember my rank
Speaker 1: was like nineteen and it was good, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: like top twenty good enough, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It was like it didn't get it. Like I remember,
Speaker 1: kids were so obsessed with like which number they were,
Speaker 1: and I was like a little part of me because
Speaker 1: I was very competitive at the time, being like a
Speaker 1: closeted kid, like looking for anything that could distinguish me
Speaker 1: and say, look, I'm good because of this reason. But
Speaker 1: I remember thinking in the back of my mom, like
Speaker 1: the rational part of me was like, maybe they shouldn't
Speaker 1: tell us that they shouldn't. That's so, that's so, I mean,
Speaker 1: I get valedictorian, I guess and in or whatever. But
Speaker 1: like my mom was valedictorian and she went to the
Speaker 1: University of Rochester because they paid for her to go there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like she probably could have
Speaker 1: gone to an IVY league that maybe didn't give her
Speaker 1: as much money, like my husband went to just an
Speaker 1: okay school for free. In retrospect, I should have done that, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And it's poison. It's like that. It's like it is
Speaker 1: that sort of like you know, like patriarchal capitalist bullshit
Speaker 1: that says compete, compete, compete, and then it's like, wait
Speaker 1: for what compete to give you more of my money?
Speaker 1: And that's what it is. Is like I think substantially,
Speaker 1: what's substantially Subconsciously, what's happening is they're like, yeah, make
Speaker 1: these kids fucking compete for ship, because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, the aspirational colleges are the ones that
Speaker 1: cost the most money. Yeah, like I went to ny U,
Speaker 1: so did Bowing, And that's a fucking hole to dig
Speaker 1: yourself in, Like financial that doesn't really care about you.
Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, I mean my school has doubled since
Speaker 1: I graduated, has doubled. It was like thirty something when
Speaker 1: I went, now at sixty something. Yeah, I mean yeah
Speaker 1: we went oh yeah Jesus, Yeah, mine wasn't like the
Speaker 1: high thirties. But yeah, it's so crazy. Well, I think
Speaker 1: I think you have such a I think you you
Speaker 1: are very You have such a good sense of humor
Speaker 1: about your upbringing. I think especially on the album where
Speaker 1: you're just like I'm from Connecticut but like like what
Speaker 1: you say, Oh, you're like I'm rich person to j Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I have no money, but like I grew up
Speaker 1: with so many Ridgeby and I have rich friends from
Speaker 1: summer camp and like I just have friends that are
Speaker 1: so loaded on another level. Um, I mean we were
Speaker 1: that fused with me when I was at y U.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh there, this is just yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: people would like like take note of where the town
Speaker 1: I was from, and then they'd be like, where'd you
Speaker 1: go to high school? And I'd go New Cana in
Speaker 1: high school, the public schoo maybe like oh, like why
Speaker 1: didn't you go to boarding And I'm like, because it's
Speaker 1: one of the best public schools. That's why my parents
Speaker 1: moved there. What are you talking about. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: one of six kids, so it's like we weren't like
Speaker 1: all getting our own car and all getting to go
Speaker 1: to private school, do you know what I mean? Like, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I remember being blown away by the money when
Speaker 1: I'm even growing up in a rich town. I was
Speaker 1: blown away by the money when I went to college
Speaker 1: because of my class went to private school or boarding school,
Speaker 1: and then I was part of the thirty that went
Speaker 1: to lowly public schools, which are probably all some of
Speaker 1: the greatest public So yeah, I identify with that because
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends they were like I had
Speaker 1: had a lot of money and it's just it's but
Speaker 1: we didn't. We were middle class. But it was just interesting,
Speaker 1: like to watch them pick schools to go do and
Speaker 1: like the cultural conversation around college amongst those people because
Speaker 1: Long Island is very Maybe maybe Connecticut like this too,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm sure it's similar, but it's like
Speaker 1: you have very well to do people and then you
Speaker 1: can go two streets over and there's people that are
Speaker 1: like barely getting by. Yeah, town to town, it's like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, my town was pretty much all like one,
Speaker 1: you know, and so for that to all get mixed in,
Speaker 1: Like when people were getting their decisions from colleges back,
Speaker 1: it was like, wow, it's not merit based where you're
Speaker 1: going to go if there's so many other things to consider.
Speaker 1: And I think if if seventeen and eighteen year olds
Speaker 1: were actually more aware of the financial realities, they would
Speaker 1: be kind of more open to doing alternative things like
Speaker 1: maybe not going to school right away, or going to
Speaker 1: vocational school or going to the trade school or something
Speaker 1: like that. In California, it's actually my friend was telling
Speaker 1: me it's like very popular in California, like do community
Speaker 1: college for a couple of years and then go to
Speaker 1: a bigger and then go to another school like which
Speaker 1: which I dig it's the smart thing to do. I
Speaker 1: really think I think everybody should take a couple of
Speaker 1: years off between high school and college and I never
Speaker 1: thought that when I was younger, and my dad would
Speaker 1: say that to me, and I'll be like, whatever, Dad,
Speaker 1: And now I'm like I was seventeen when I went
Speaker 1: to college, Like what did I know about anything? I
Speaker 1: picked the dumbest classes. I mean, I was a theater major, right,
Speaker 1: what who let me do it? I mean I ended
Speaker 1: up doubling in English because my mom was like, please
Speaker 1: don't embarrass me, but but like, but think about major
Speaker 1: and equally useless major. Yeah. I think if you would
Speaker 1: think about why you went to school at seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 1: though it's just because that was the expectation, not because
Speaker 1: anyway were you like and even if you were quote
Speaker 1: unquote ready, like you wouldn't know that and even know
Speaker 1: the difference between being ready and not ready to move
Speaker 1: the funk out of your house totally, Like I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think traveling is That's what I mean, Like, go
Speaker 1: do some volunteer program or something wild I don't know,
Speaker 1: or just like have no reins, and then you will
Speaker 1: find the thing that you will want to learn more
Speaker 1: about and be interested in. And then you followed that
Speaker 1: instinct and then you learned that because like I fucking
Speaker 1: made your in chemistry when I was seventeen too, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I guess this is what I
Speaker 1: should like because you know you were going to go
Speaker 1: Premac exactly, and I guess this is what I should do.
Speaker 1: And then it was a total force And its like
Speaker 1: I do consider most of college being wasted time for me,
Speaker 1: which sucks. So it's not wasted for me because because
Speaker 1: of the friendships I made and the community, right, But
Speaker 1: that is like that I don't know the money is.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I definitely learned how to like think
Speaker 1: critically and like write a good essay, which I feel
Speaker 1: like I kind of knew before I went. But also
Speaker 1: I have great friends from there. I had the best time.
Speaker 1: I was wasted all the time. Was that worth? Like
Speaker 1: even now in our careers where it's like, well, I
Speaker 1: worked on a I've been auditioning, and I've worked on
Speaker 1: pilot presentations and I've done this, I guess I've met
Speaker 1: cool people and make connections, but like you can't quantify that,
Speaker 1: should either? Well, I think that's what's actually kind of
Speaker 1: a little bit cool about show business in a way,
Speaker 1: is that like when I went to the Page program,
Speaker 1: like that was like a very competitive program. The people
Speaker 1: went to schools I've never heard of, but for like
Speaker 1: I was in it with like a couple of Princeton's
Speaker 1: or whatever, but people that went to schools I never
Speaker 1: heard of. And I was like, Oh, this business doesn't
Speaker 1: care about college. Really, they do not give a ship
Speaker 1: that I went to a college that was like in
Speaker 1: the top colleges, like you yeah, exactly, like I think
Speaker 1: n y In retrospect, I'm like, I should have gone
Speaker 1: to n y U because I would have met more
Speaker 1: people that I ended up meeting later and I would
Speaker 1: have started UCB sooner and like blah blah blah, you know,
Speaker 1: like it would have been a quicker road. But that
Speaker 1: is kind of and I definitely think that show businesses
Speaker 1: a lot about connections, but I don't think it's about
Speaker 1: education as much, and like, um, like privilege, but like
Speaker 1: it's not about like money and upbringing in like like
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff as much. Even though here we
Speaker 1: sit talking about Lori Laughlin's daughters, like going, okay, so
Speaker 1: we have Bette Miller, Okay, what else do we have? Okay? Okay,
Speaker 1: Just like stuff that I was really into when I
Speaker 1: was that was like Okay, that's it, or even like
Speaker 1: lately or okay, well like what am I into now? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean like, well I told Matt this when we
Speaker 1: got together a few weeks ago. I am a um
Speaker 1: late convert but fully obsessed drag races like talk talk
Speaker 1: us through your journey. My journey is? My journey is
Speaker 1: I have a gay brother who also was pre med
Speaker 1: and it's also very funny, And did you ceb classes
Speaker 1: and made the choice to go to a doctor? Now
Speaker 1: now he's the funniest. He's a doctor and he's very funny.
Speaker 1: He's been he is in his residency for neurology at Yale.
Speaker 1: Right now I have a question is now he has
Speaker 1: a boyfriend who we love. Okay, he met him a
Speaker 1: medical school. So I need them to like support me
Speaker 1: if this doesn't work out. So I need them to
Speaker 1: say that that double doctor income we love. No, and
Speaker 1: so did he introduce you? So he for years was
Speaker 1: like watch us, watch watches you love it. I was like,
Speaker 1: what a column. I just can't. I can't get into
Speaker 1: something that's nine seasons in or eight seasons in like
Speaker 1: plus also I was like it's it's it's overwhelming. So
Speaker 1: then he finally came to l A like or he
Speaker 1: came out to l A like a year ago. Truly,
Speaker 1: I'm coming up on my one year of getting into
Speaker 1: drag Race anniversary. He came to l A. He logged
Speaker 1: me into his on my Apple TV to his Apple accountant,
Speaker 1: he has every season purchased, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: now I have no excuse. My husband went to Australia
Speaker 1: for two weeks. I was like kind of hanging around
Speaker 1: a little bit. I just started with season four and fully,
Speaker 1: you did it right. That's what he told me to do,
Speaker 1: and that's that's a doctor, doctor, and I just got
Speaker 1: so obsessed with it. But here's the other thing that
Speaker 1: really pulled me in was I started watching YouTube Trick
Speaker 1: and Show and I found it so funny that I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, if this is what it's like, I
Speaker 1: want to watch the show. And so I started watching four. Five,
Speaker 1: Then I think I may have skipped to seven because
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see Tricky. Went back to six,
Speaker 1: then I did All Stars eight, nine, Like, I'm fully
Speaker 1: caught up. I just last week started on once I
Speaker 1: started season one. The lighting light it really is. But
Speaker 1: I am so like truly like I started in March.
Speaker 1: By May, I went to Drag Con like I went
Speaker 1: to see Work the World in October with we Like
Speaker 1: I just like now Elliott will just hit me up
Speaker 1: for anything drag and I'm like, yes, I want to
Speaker 1: go to all that I was living in who and
Speaker 1: I would go to some of the viewing parties like
Speaker 1: like Blazing Saddles and Flaming Saddle excuse me, it's climbing
Speaker 1: Saddles and uh. And I just like love it so
Speaker 1: much that I cannot believe I resisted or that this
Speaker 1: hasn't been a part of my life for my entire life.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I'm just really quickly. I want to say
Speaker 1: I've been trying to convince my sister to watch it
Speaker 1: since day one, and she's like been like, Okay, maybe yes,
Speaker 1: And Sister, I was you, yeah, you gotta just make that.
Speaker 1: And I even had watched like the first episode of
Speaker 1: season one and four and was like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: like Project Runway or whatever with Drag Queens. I got it.
Speaker 1: But then you were like it's every reality show and
Speaker 1: it's like it's He's like I love what a genius
Speaker 1: Rue Paul is with like the Mark like just how
Speaker 1: I know every day what he's going to say at
Speaker 1: the exact same time, and like he's really he's very
Speaker 1: very good. It's an extremely good reality show. I think
Speaker 1: it's probably the best reality show and competitive reality show
Speaker 1: out there. And I recently got my husband into it.
Speaker 1: He started with me on the last All Stars Loves
Speaker 1: Lily sits there and he goes, I just don't know.
Speaker 1: He's like, I know Manilla is a comedy queen, but
Speaker 1: I mean he like he like goes into full like
Speaker 1: analysis of it, and it's so funny. It's awesome. So
Speaker 1: let's just talk about because this is the last completed
Speaker 1: season was All Stars three. What did you think of
Speaker 1: the that was disappointed? Yeah, I was disappointed, Like I
Speaker 1: really thought Manilla should have been in the top and
Speaker 1: I I understand life, it's not fair, Naomi, but I
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I felt like and then it's
Speaker 1: like I didn't think Money was the strongest. I love Money,
Speaker 1: that I didn't think she was of the strongest of
Speaker 1: the ten. And then I felt like I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I know that they're trying to make more like diverse
Speaker 1: decisions of who gets in there. We didn't want to
Speaker 1: have like just another white queen in there, but like,
Speaker 1: honestly should have probably even though I'm a huge tricksy
Speaker 1: stand it should have gone to she Angel last, and
Speaker 1: then we wouldn't have been in this predicament. I think
Speaker 1: they shut themselves in the foot by doing too many Shenanigans.
Speaker 1: Now they have to answer that with more Shenanigan and
Speaker 1: it's like they only start do they start with ten
Speaker 1: or nine? They started ten and then like to win
Speaker 1: like of the competition. Yeah, like it's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was disappointed. It was disappointed, you know, but it
Speaker 1: was a season that was all over the place where
Speaker 1: it was like it started out kind of in the
Speaker 1: middle and then it like dipped and then got really
Speaker 1: good and then like the Lalla Perusa thing was genius.
Speaker 1: I thought, like genius TV to just do like an
Speaker 1: episode of Lips, and I was like, I love this,
Speaker 1: this is okay cool, Like they're still inventing new ways
Speaker 1: to like I always am surprised how they come up
Speaker 1: with new stuffs. Like it's like eleven seasons plus four
Speaker 1: all stars in and they're still like twist, Like I
Speaker 1: love It's crazy to think there's been actually fifteen seasons.
Speaker 1: I mean it is like overwhelming at this point till
Speaker 1: like you go, are you guys loving the current? Um?
Speaker 1: I just came from a recap podcast and we my
Speaker 1: thing is and uh, this this sounds very this sounds
Speaker 1: very toxic, congross and disgusting. But I promise it's just
Speaker 1: like my take on this. And I was watching this
Speaker 1: most recent episode with Joel it was the sixth person
Speaker 1: lipsing for your life. Um. And and then this is
Speaker 1: way beforehand, like I was watching the Challenge Player and
Speaker 1: I turned into a like goes, this is why I'm
Speaker 1: not really connecting with this season yet, because no one
Speaker 1: is like, no one is like a brilliant mind. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not looking at any of these queens and thinking, wow,
Speaker 1: what is their brain? Like it's like with with cod
Speaker 1: or like Alaska or Bob or Bianca or like Sasha
Speaker 1: even or like Asia German. I mean there's like people
Speaker 1: I love on it. I mean, you know, I love
Speaker 1: um Jenks so much at these like a friend of
Speaker 1: the pod, friend of the pod, these people who are
Speaker 1: just like wow, like you were just so like you
Speaker 1: were so like eccentric is not the right word, but
Speaker 1: you're just like you were forward thinking for pushing pushing
Speaker 1: the art form, whereas it literally feels like all of
Speaker 1: these queens are And again what I also said is
Speaker 1: let's get yet. It's early. But I do feel like
Speaker 1: a lot of these queens are like, Oh, there's the
Speaker 1: Kennedy Davenport, there's the one that's like Sharon, there's the
Speaker 1: one that's like this. It's like we've we're not seeing
Speaker 1: queens that are doing truly new things. And I think
Speaker 1: it's it's it's two things. It's a the show getting
Speaker 1: a little lazy and casting just because it is season eleven,
Speaker 1: and be because we have seen so many kinds of
Speaker 1: queen it's getting hard to see something we've never seen before.
Speaker 1: To the vocabulary of the fans is for better or worse,
Speaker 1: Like now we all feel like we know everything. I'd
Speaker 1: say Evy is the closest we're getting to that probably
Speaker 1: interested in Evy oddly, and I just and I know
Speaker 1: that she is a version of a queen we've seen before,
Speaker 1: But I'm like, really rooting for a Carria Davenport. I like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like because I was a Kennedy Davenport fan in
Speaker 1: season seven, Like when I got down to it. When
Speaker 1: it was like ginger Mine, Violet Pearl and Kennedy and
Speaker 1: Kennedy didn't make the top three, I was like, that
Speaker 1: feels really wrong. Yeah, that feels really wrong to me,
Speaker 1: like that Pearl is in the top three and not
Speaker 1: Kennedy is like Kennedy if if if Kennedy Davenport drank
Speaker 1: a red bull. I remember Kennedy being a little sleepy,
Speaker 1: and that's actually part of her charm for me, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, just kind of like this that's
Speaker 1: seen the whole world, and like it's like letting the
Speaker 1: children play, Like I love that. But then when she dances,
Speaker 1: she's fully set Jackson. It's insane, and I love that dichotomy.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like usually gagged for what she wears
Speaker 1: on the runway too. So I just thought, and also
Speaker 1: I have such a respect for this like Southern pageant
Speaker 1: drag because I think it takes so much to be
Speaker 1: so fabulous like and so bold in a place part
Speaker 1: of the country where obviously it's not easy. So I
Speaker 1: feel like that's really like o G drag um. It's
Speaker 1: honoring tradition, it's honoring and I think we haven't seen
Speaker 1: someone like that win, and I think Asia Harrick got close.
Speaker 1: But Akuria Davenport I like her and I'm into her
Speaker 1: because what she is and what she where she comes from.
Speaker 1: There's a few that I think are fun. I just
Speaker 1: think there are so many that are clearly going to
Speaker 1: be eliminated so quickly that I'm like, we gotta fast
Speaker 1: forward like four episodes because I know who the next
Speaker 1: four people are that our leave. I think, Yeah, in
Speaker 1: other seasons, I've been like, I don't know the first couple.
Speaker 1: You're usually like, okay, I'm dying over Vanjie this season.
Speaker 1: I remember watching season ten, that was the season time
Speaker 1: was the first one I watched, like in time with
Speaker 1: the rest of the world, and I was like, why
Speaker 1: are they letting this woman go? Why are they letting
Speaker 1: this person go? Like this is this this woman? This woman?
Speaker 1: Like when was like let the woman do her makeup
Speaker 1: when someone was bothering someone else and that's so I
Speaker 1: was just like, this is like this beautiful drag queen
Speaker 1: who when they open their mouth they sound like yeah,
Speaker 1: like they gruff and like what she says it's so funny,
Speaker 1: Like I can't believe. Honestly, I didn't think her outfit
Speaker 1: sucked or whatever, but why are you letting such good TV?
Speaker 1: That's the thing is, It's like, that's why we're latching
Speaker 1: onto Vanjie is because we haven't seen anything like her before.
Speaker 1: But the reason I felt the same way premiere of
Speaker 1: Tin was like, don't let her go because she's opened
Speaker 1: her match. She's like fucking Melissa Edwards now. But the
Speaker 1: thing about letting her go and remifying her in the
Speaker 1: way that they did, and now she is but she
Speaker 1: is here to stay. She is here to stay. I
Speaker 1: think she'll either make the top four or get cut
Speaker 1: fifth place, and it will be a huge ap set
Speaker 1: and everyone will be mad. Even if it's not an upset,
Speaker 1: She'll still have been in every episode, which is really
Speaker 1: what counts, you know what I mean? Those checks like
Speaker 1: get that fucking like like Cameron Michael's your way to
Speaker 1: the end. Oh I mean, well, like, I mean, the
Speaker 1: woman got her money. Now she's like headlining all the
Speaker 1: tours because you get to see her perform because no
Speaker 1: woman can perform. And you're going to see Cameron on
Speaker 1: All Stars. So then do you, well, do you have
Speaker 1: a special relationship with ten then? Because it's the it's
Speaker 1: the first season you started watching with the rest of
Speaker 1: the world or not. No, I don't think so. I
Speaker 1: mean I was. I was like excited to be watching
Speaker 1: it with everybody else, and I was like reading your
Speaker 1: guys recaps and stuff on, which were so fun. Previously
Speaker 1: had not been able to engage with the internet any
Speaker 1: of the other seasons. But um, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I love. I just feel like I loved
Speaker 1: certain queens throughout and I'm not there's not like a
Speaker 1: certain season that I'm like access to it. But it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard when you watch it. I watched it that's
Speaker 1: so back to back, like it was like an all
Speaker 1: consuming diet. Like yeah, so it's almost hard to separate
Speaker 1: the season that way. But I did like for ten,
Speaker 1: like I went to bars and to watch it with
Speaker 1: other people is so fun, and like I met Mayhem
Speaker 1: and Mickey's she could not have given a ship, but
Speaker 1: I was like, I love you can take a picture.
Speaker 1: She hated me. It was so fun. She was she
Speaker 1: was nice. She was she was just like disinterested and
Speaker 1: wanted to get on. I think, did you have a
Speaker 1: favorite spot in l A that you watched it? Um, well,
Speaker 1: I've watched it now at Mickey's and Flaming Saddles. I
Speaker 1: would love to go. Yeah, that's formerly Barten. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: went to after I watched and watched a drag show
Speaker 1: one time because like it turns into makes Thursday into
Speaker 1: this like whole drag knight. So I went. I went
Speaker 1: to when it was Parten famously went and and caught
Speaker 1: the post RP d R drag show that they do.
Speaker 1: See there's no drag show at hide Tops afterwards, but
Speaker 1: you can probably find one pretty easily. Oh yeah. And
Speaker 1: then in New York, oh yeah. And then in New York,
Speaker 1: I saw you when I went to go see I
Speaker 1: went with Drew Anderson to go see Britta Filter know.
Speaker 1: It was that therapy, Yeah, and I thought you and
Speaker 1: you were with this whole group of guys and Joel
Speaker 1: and I go, where's Bowen? And you were sick. I
Speaker 1: was sick. That was therapy. And then also Joel had
Speaker 1: to get on stage and he showed his little tightly remember, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was shocking. And that was the first time
Speaker 1: I saw Joel's asked well first and the only time
Speaker 1: I saw Joel's ass, And I'm like, oh, he misses
Speaker 1: no squats right right, but was and like he was
Speaker 1: paired up with like a hairy hairy man who was
Speaker 1: not in the same physical shape as Joel, which no shame,
Speaker 1: but it was just it was it's hard to be
Speaker 1: It was like, I feel bad that you had to
Speaker 1: come up here with Joel who is like literally marble
Speaker 1: butt cheeks. It was very bad. But usually we watched
Speaker 1: it at a hotel, um, but now they have like
Speaker 1: a Thursday night conflict, so you can't watch it there.
Speaker 1: But it sucks because when we watched season nine at
Speaker 1: a hotel, and I feel that season nine was one
Speaker 1: of the stronger seasons, especially as it got going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I felt like the top seven of season nine,
Speaker 1: like as it really got to the top five, top four,
Speaker 1: and then when it ended in that epic lip sync SmackDown,
Speaker 1: I get so emotional. Yeah, I mean that was like
Speaker 1: an iconic moment. And to watch that happen with hundreds
Speaker 1: of gays in the basement of a hotel was like
Speaker 1: so insane. Talk about it come from behind shocking victory. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was amazing. I think watching it with other people,
Speaker 1: it's like so so so fun. So hopefully my baby
Speaker 1: can be I was going to say, they we'll have
Speaker 1: to love it. I mean, I'll bring there's I was
Speaker 1: planning to bring the baby to drag Con because it's
Speaker 1: very chill a drag Con. I like kids there. You
Speaker 1: can drag up the strollers. Yeah, there's so much space,
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't feel like I was. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't wait in lines really, Like I got to meet
Speaker 1: Alaska through a friend, and I got to meet something
Speaker 1: through friends. But I don't really can't wait a line.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I would love to be able
Speaker 1: to get a babysitter on Thursdays, and we have. Honestly,
Speaker 1: we got a babysitter. But the thing is, I get
Speaker 1: nervous about babysitters when the babies are really little. Sure, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but also if they're starting to sleep through the night,
Speaker 1: you just need a body to sit there exactly. There
Speaker 1: you go. It just takes down the road. That's probably
Speaker 1: season thirteen or season twelve. Don't you think is um
Speaker 1: Britta gonna do season twelve? This was the rumor I heard,
Speaker 1: probably from the same source. What we are hearing is
Speaker 1: that Britta will be on the show. But I don't
Speaker 1: want to say too much because it's weird because like,
Speaker 1: obviously you don't know until someone's in the room shooting it.
Speaker 1: But I think that they've I think that they have
Speaker 1: reached out, and I think that I think that obviously.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, that's not even t that's just like
Speaker 1: she's Britta Filter. I mean, she's the drag queen of
Speaker 1: New York. She was so good, like she's Drew's rack
Speaker 1: and was like, this is such a fun show. And
Speaker 1: even the girl she was with that night, who I
Speaker 1: don't remember her name, but was doing these really funny
Speaker 1: Adams family values monologues and stuff that we're cracking me up. Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I forgot. She kind of had like a
Speaker 1: Celine Dion look to her face tiny. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: was it Chelsea Pierce? No, I don't know. We love
Speaker 1: Chelsea anyway. I thought Britta was like fantastic. I was
Speaker 1: just like, she's magnets, She's incredible. And I also think,
Speaker 1: like I think that Bretta doesn't want to go on
Speaker 1: the show unless she's gonna win. I think because I
Speaker 1: think Britta wants to be like a rupehole. I think
Speaker 1: Britta is good enough and driven enough and works hard
Speaker 1: enough for a time that turns she she blew my mind,
Speaker 1: Oscar too. You remember this name. I remember this is
Speaker 1: like five years ago. We booked her for Ethnic Realness
Speaker 1: and she did a lip sync where she basically just
Speaker 1: did like a bunch of songs and then it would
Speaker 1: cut into like Key and Peel sketches, and she would
Speaker 1: lip sync the entirety of Key and both their dialogue,
Speaker 1: and it was just I was like, she's so good
Speaker 1: and honestly, she can do it all. But I think
Speaker 1: I think that she just I think she wants to
Speaker 1: win the show, and I think she doesn't want She
Speaker 1: didn't want to go on too earlier. It's well, yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody told me she was waiting to get better at sewing.
Speaker 1: See like she like is that's that is very remarkable.
Speaker 1: That's so smart. Yeah, and I think she definitely has
Speaker 1: a shot. But it's like, but then it's like you
Speaker 1: hear about the mayhemist who go on the show, and
Speaker 1: those are like the brit of filters of l A
Speaker 1: and then and then they get they get booted on
Speaker 1: the third episode. I think it's it also just comes
Speaker 1: down to what kind of person you want? Are you
Speaker 1: the kind of person who deals well in a competitive
Speaker 1: setting or high pressure environment because just performing and you
Speaker 1: freaking out in the second challenge, getting in her head.
Speaker 1: She needs to take a uc BE class and don't
Speaker 1: think I know, but I think that is the key.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of like, don't judge yourself, just go
Speaker 1: there and do you. But that's hard for some people.
Speaker 1: You know, what's funny to watch or it's sad to
Speaker 1: watch a little bit, But I think Tammy Brown is
Speaker 1: so funny. And I'm watching her on season one and
Speaker 1: she just nobody gets what she's doing. They're all just
Speaker 1: like she's like and now she's so like probably the
Speaker 1: more successful than most of them. Well I think I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's Baby's horror from season one and on China and
Speaker 1: then who like then there's like, yeah, like Nina is
Speaker 1: still doing gigs in Denver, and like Nina deserves like
Speaker 1: a bigger career. But it's like Tammy. It's like she's
Speaker 1: the but Tammy's Tammy's faces, It all stars one amazing.
Speaker 1: She's just like like the judges are critiquing her, she's
Speaker 1: like also she does the lips thin where she doesn't
Speaker 1: do it. She is bopping like a wedding, like it's
Speaker 1: so good. Honestly, I would have for a brazen like
Speaker 1: I'm not doing, like I don't know the words, but
Speaker 1: like no, I'm not not gonna do. Also, I don't
Speaker 1: see you out there walking children in nature. I haven't
Speaker 1: gotten to that. That's reunion children in nature. And also
Speaker 1: excuse your mouth, to excuse your excuse your mouth. I've
Speaker 1: been told that that's all in the Ringnion episode that
Speaker 1: I need to get to. Yeah, no, it's iconic, but
Speaker 1: the thing is, and RuPaul was so mad. This is
Speaker 1: when RuPaul like allowed himself to like look like a
Speaker 1: little rough, like like up was like, Dammy, it's not
Speaker 1: my problem, it's your problem. It's not my fault that
Speaker 1: you look bad. It's your fault. You're the one I
Speaker 1: the opportunity. And RuPaul screaming yeah, and it's like Tyra
Speaker 1: and she says and Tammy goes, excuse your mouth. Yeah
Speaker 1: it's good. Well I just like, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that she's channeling Tire the whole time, right, as well
Speaker 1: as other as well as a million other pieces. Paris
Speaker 1: is burning like all these different things. But um well,
Speaker 1: now I feel like nowadays RuPaul would never allow himself
Speaker 1: to just be right in that way because he knows
Speaker 1: how reunion though. I was gonna say, but even with
Speaker 1: even with Asia and with um the Vixen, I didn't
Speaker 1: think that he really went to times crazy, but he
Speaker 1: that was definitely more than we've seen. And I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: that was more sort of Asia breaking down. And I
Speaker 1: think I think that is an iconic move. It is iconic.
Speaker 1: Would you mean the obviously someone who's crying on for hope.
Speaker 1: It's it's actually a beautiful moment of vulnerability. And I
Speaker 1: will forever I will follow Asia to the end of Yeah.
Speaker 1: But you know that Asia went back like like they
Speaker 1: were the victims, Like, no, bitch, that's not what it was.
Speaker 1: That was like, oh my god, I'm fine. I just
Speaker 1: didn't want to be there anymore because it was whack
Speaker 1: not work the world Asia, Asia pays homage to the butterflies.
Speaker 1: It's so she needs to have a press release for
Speaker 1: this migration this week. Have you noticed I haven't seen
Speaker 1: a single one. I was driving in Silver like the
Speaker 1: other day and they were just swooping in front of
Speaker 1: my car. It was like amazing, And my husbands go,
Speaker 1: I think you're lying to me about Joel and I
Speaker 1: went on a hike and running, and they were all
Speaker 1: around us. It was beautiful, all around us, all around us.
Speaker 1: About that time. It's about that time. It's about that
Speaker 1: time to do. I don't think so, and I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think so, honey. Is our one
Speaker 1: minute segment that we take to take a minute, a
Speaker 1: literal minute, to rail against something in pop culture that
Speaker 1: needs to be dressed down because well, we don't like it.
Speaker 1: We don't like it very much. I don't like that
Speaker 1: very much. Um, shall I go first? You should go first,
Speaker 1: as a traditional, as a tradition. Okay, I will now
Speaker 1: hand my phone. They can put me on the clock,
Speaker 1: is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many as time
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so, honey. Flash mob wedding
Speaker 1: proposals because it's just not only is it not smart,
Speaker 1: because here's the thing, there is not just one answer
Speaker 1: you could get. There are two, and uh, you know
Speaker 1: that's like high risk, hy risk, high reward. But I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. If the person says no, then
Speaker 1: you've wasted everyone's time, in fact, hundreds of people's time. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, flash mob wedding proposals, because
Speaker 1: like it's really for you, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and is not a marriage, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's not really taking into account unless your person said
Speaker 1: I want a flash mob wedding proposal. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: And also if you are saying I want a flash
Speaker 1: mob wedding proposal, I do not think so, honey. You
Speaker 1: fucking narcissist. Everything is psychotic. Also choreography. In these settings,
Speaker 1: you're telling me you called a rehearsal for your flash
Speaker 1: mob wedding proposal. Did you pay everyone? You paid everyone?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. I don't think you paid
Speaker 1: everyone an equal wage. I don't miss, honey. Flash mob
Speaker 1: wedding proposals quiet night on a rooftop with the moon
Speaker 1: in view, and that's one minute. Wow, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's like my wedding proposal was like that. It was
Speaker 1: balcony nighttime. Here's the thing. I did once cry to
Speaker 1: a flash mob wedding proposal video, But that was obviously
Speaker 1: because the girl like really really really was so overwhelmingly
Speaker 1: happy the whole time. But I was like, otherwise, it's
Speaker 1: like I don't know, it's just there's too many opportunities
Speaker 1: for it to go the other way. And then what
Speaker 1: it's just like, it's not it's supposed to be about
Speaker 1: you guys, Like why are there a hundred people involved it?
Speaker 1: We shouldn't need it. We shouldn't need like a union
Speaker 1: lunch break for my wedding proposal, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: crap services. My wedding proposal was catered. Also, your wedding
Speaker 1: will not live up to and if it does, you
Speaker 1: are the one said, And I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: It is such a gamble. God black, I'm black, all right,
Speaker 1: So this is what about? What about? What about a
Speaker 1: flash mob promposal? Yeah? I love that's fine. Love that
Speaker 1: the worst, the worst thing that can happen. Those those
Speaker 1: stakes also love that because if they say no, that's
Speaker 1: just funny. Yeah, you know what I mean, it's not tragic.
Speaker 1: Lot of trouble. I'm actually going with todd Um. He
Speaker 1: just asked me two minutes ago. And then he's like
Speaker 1: in the chornography, he's like, yeah, I didn't tell you
Speaker 1: because I hate you. This is yangs. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: And as time starts now, I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: Carly Rae Jepson, you have not evolved, honey, and I
Speaker 1: needed you to promised us a disco inspired album, and
Speaker 1: we have you have not delivered on that promise. And
Speaker 1: it's the same bubble gummy stuff. I'm not gonna call
Speaker 1: it drivel. I don't mind it, but there it's been.
Speaker 1: There's been no topography to your music. I am gonna
Speaker 1: liberate everyone out there who loves Carly Ray. We love
Speaker 1: the new stuff, but is it something that she? Is
Speaker 1: it something that she It's a straight line. I want
Speaker 1: an uphill trajectory for her, okay. I need I need
Speaker 1: her to be a slope to this. I need her
Speaker 1: to progress and involved as an artist. I don't want her.
Speaker 1: I don't want us gaze to keep her in a
Speaker 1: container and tell her to stay there, and then we're
Speaker 1: just gonna clap for every few years like she's sucking
Speaker 1: tinker balance. She can't change up her look or change
Speaker 1: up her sound fifty and she needs to evolve. She
Speaker 1: promised his disco and it's the same stuff and so
Speaker 1: here and this is I this is a clarion call
Speaker 1: everyone out there. We need to demand more of our
Speaker 1: pop stars. We cannot demand them to be the same person.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. I have to say, the energy
Speaker 1: in this room from the three of us watching you
Speaker 1: do that, it was as if you said a slur.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. I was taken, aback. I can't believe everyone.
Speaker 1: I was really afraid to say this, but love love
Speaker 1: the new stuff. But I'm also like, but it feels
Speaker 1: so what if it feels flat? It feels it feels
Speaker 1: like a watch And we've seen people do the same, same,
Speaker 1: same and then disappear. And you want Carl, you want
Speaker 1: more for carlire for Carly like this, then it's hard
Speaker 1: to just write hit songs when the bar is so hot,
Speaker 1: bar so high. For her, absolutely, but then she was
Speaker 1: she was like hinting at all this evolution that as
Speaker 1: of now maybe once sounds like it even sounds like
Speaker 1: not a regression back to kiss, but it sounds like
Speaker 1: it's on par with emotion, which we don't mind. But
Speaker 1: it's like she like she was building up to something
Speaker 1: with like and then one of the best albums ever,
Speaker 1: then side B, then then then the B sides and
Speaker 1: then cut to the Feeling as this promotional single that
Speaker 1: would like blew everyone's mind. And now it's like, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: now it's like the is the traction there is it?
Speaker 1: Is it getting going to where it wants? Where she
Speaker 1: wants to go? I think if she like came out
Speaker 1: with something she promised, like disco and it hasn't really
Speaker 1: built that, Yeah, I mean, I understand, get it. You
Speaker 1: explain yourself. Well, I'm just shocked to hear it anyway.
Speaker 1: I just I think, I think I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: alone in this, and so I think other people if you,
Speaker 1: if you agree, if you're sharing the sentiment, sentiment I
Speaker 1: still adore her and obsessed with her, you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: talking about it if you didn't care, you know exactly,
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be talking about it if you didn't care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, there you go. So now we pivot from that.
Speaker 1: So can this be okay? This can be like the
Speaker 1: way that they are in the live shows sort of
Speaker 1: where it's like it doesn't have to necessarily be whatever
Speaker 1: your yes, this is. I don't think so, honey, her
Speaker 1: time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Women that
Speaker 1: are bragging about having an unmedicated birth, what is wrong
Speaker 1: with you? Like we have as mankind, we have developed
Speaker 1: the drugs that will make this so much easier for you,
Speaker 1: And you want to be some kind of hero warrior
Speaker 1: spirit woman that does it without drugs. I guess let's
Speaker 1: pin a metal on your already engorged chest. I don't
Speaker 1: understand why that would be fun for you. You never
Speaker 1: hear somebody go, I got my appendix out unmedicated, brave,
Speaker 1: Like it's a fucking huge ordeal on your body. Why
Speaker 1: would I not take something to numb me from the
Speaker 1: waist down? It's so wild to me. I just watched
Speaker 1: a unmedicated childbirth video in a childbirth class last week,
Speaker 1: and honestly, it didn't look fun. And at the end,
Speaker 1: we're both going to have babies. I want the drugs
Speaker 1: five minutes before I walk in the door, drugs immediately.
Speaker 1: And I think you trying to act like you're better
Speaker 1: than me, And that's that is beautiful, because it's not
Speaker 1: more enriching to like I truly, I used to hear
Speaker 1: people say stuff like you're so out of it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's not a drug on your brain. It literally just
Speaker 1: numbs the bottom part of you. Is the is the
Speaker 1: sort of idea behind this that taking no drugs is
Speaker 1: quote unquote less risk for the baby. Is that what
Speaker 1: it is? The only con that I've heard is it
Speaker 1: a blood pressure thing. It can spike your blood pressure.
Speaker 1: I've had zero blood pressure problems. If you have a
Speaker 1: blood pressure problem, obviously, I'm not telling you to go
Speaker 1: take the drugs, and you do what your doctor tells
Speaker 1: you to do and what you feel best with. Of course,
Speaker 1: I'm mostly joking about this, but I was in this
Speaker 1: class where we all went around and I was like
Speaker 1: kind of one of the first people, and I go
Speaker 1: and I want the drugs, like immediately, and I got
Speaker 1: to laugh. And then nine out of the ten women
Speaker 1: were like, I'd like to go unmedicated for as long
Speaker 1: as the best of luck that said they did that
Speaker 1: begged for the drugs. Also, if anything, it's the pain
Speaker 1: of being unmedicated that takes you out of it. And also, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you don't want is to say no drugs, no drugs,
Speaker 1: and then it becomes too late. Yeah, you missed the window.
Speaker 1: You do miss the window where they're like I've had
Speaker 1: friends say that, they're like I want the drugs and
Speaker 1: they're like, holy, can't anymore? Oh my god. That that
Speaker 1: has to be the worst thing to hear. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: being in so much pain that you begged for they
Speaker 1: say no, and to know that it's only going to
Speaker 1: get worse. Yeah, my friend went for her first kid
Speaker 1: had it and then the second one she was too
Speaker 1: late just getting to the hospital. She was too late
Speaker 1: and she was like, what a different experience, Like I
Speaker 1: just God shook. You are like, just like I want
Speaker 1: those drugs a SAP. I told my doctor this yesterday.
Speaker 1: It's actually a real culture number nineteen. I want those
Speaker 1: drugs that goes for me in any circumstances. Um. Wow,
Speaker 1: this was a fucking very fun episode. Thank you for sharing,
Speaker 1: for being for having us to be part of this pregnancy.
Speaker 1: Because we are we are the baby's godfather. You are
Speaker 1: you fully are as a Jew that doesn't do godparents,
Speaker 1: you are fully the god then why not? Right? Um?
Speaker 1: So the album is out, Yes, it's on iTunes. Please
Speaker 1: help me feed my child. It's such a good album.
Speaker 1: We love it so much. And um, check out Kara's
Speaker 1: other stuff y'all. And the show is, um every yeah,
Speaker 1: my show every Thursday in West Hollywood at Barlou Bitch.
Speaker 1: It's called Better Half. Are you still doing if you
Speaker 1: build it? If you build. It is in New York.
Speaker 1: New York was on both coasts, but recently UCB Sunset
Speaker 1: is closed on Sundays, and so now I'll be doing
Speaker 1: it probably sporadically out here, but in New York it's
Speaker 1: a Sunday night show at UCB. It's subculture and it's
Speaker 1: a really great show. Yeah, and I'm gonna have um
Speaker 1: Matt Rogers on my show before he leaves l A.
Speaker 1: It's probably too late for you, but I would love
Speaker 1: for you to do it next time you leave tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'd love to have you on the ken Kars.
Speaker 1: Can you guys? This was so fun and thank you
Speaker 1: for being here. And we end every episode with the
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