1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: for a break. Yeah, and so much for that. It's 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: time for the break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: How about them Cowboys? Wow? The Cowboys beating the Saints 8 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: thirteen ten. Although the scar doesn't seem too appealing, it 9 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: was a huge win by the defense, who was able 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: to hold Drew Brees two ten points, just ten points, 11 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: the highest scoring offense in the NFL and they only 12 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: got ten points. So I wanted to start off your 13 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: first reaction of what this defense was able to do 14 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: last night and what we witness. I mean, it was shocking. 15 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: I mean we talked about before, you know, about being 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: surprised and shocked and all that. It was everything. I mean. 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's everyone, um was shocked the 18 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: way the Cowboys defense played. I mean, they've moved to 19 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: another level in this game. Um. And I know that, Derek, 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: that's something you've talked about, but I mean they I 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: just didn't give them enough credit. There's no way that 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: they that they could do that. I didn't think that 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 1: they were good enough to something's gonna have to give. 24 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: The cowboy was going to score more than they're used to, 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: or the defense was gonna have to just completely shut 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: down the best offense in the league. And they did so. 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: Like I said, they're on another level. Now I gotta 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: raise the energy level here for a second. Holy crap, 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Are you get here? Absolutely for 30 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: real right now? Like that's really that's my That's my 31 00:01:52,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: impression night, been my impression since probably Jordan Lewis interception 32 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: because I was standing behind the goal post on the 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: field saying, this is how it happens. The offense didn't 34 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: do their part, and now Drew Brees is going to 35 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: drive down the field and break their hearts and win 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: seventeen to thirteen or whatever, yeah, sixteen thirty, I don't 37 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: know whatever. Drew Brees was gonna drive down there and 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: bail the Saints out, and it was going to be terrible, 39 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: and it was gonna be the tough luck, loser defense thing, 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: and we were gonna have to go into that locker 41 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: room and listen to them just be heartbroken. And then 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: they did that ten points, ten points, one hundred and 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: seventy six yards, the lowest output that the Sean Payton 44 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Saints have ever put out. Super Bowl winning team teams 45 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: the eleven twelve wins year in year out, always the 46 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: best in the league. That is one of the most 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: amazing things I've ever seen in a football game. Yep, sorry, 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: it's so perfect. That's exactly right. Literally, always Dave that 49 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: just that, you know, takes us to another energy level. 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: But it had to be done. Like I don't like, 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: I just watched LSU and seven overtimes, seven overtimes. It's 52 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: not as amazing as holding that team to ten points, 53 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: no doubt about ten points one touchdown. Yep. Thursday were 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: averaging thirty seven points a game. And they never drove 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: the ball on them, No, not at once. At one 56 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: time did they take the ball and really drive it 57 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: and just beat the Cowboys down. The Cowboys basically handed 58 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: them that drive. Yep. If if they you heard this 59 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: in the locker room throughout the game, if the offense 60 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: even plays marginally better, it is a emphatic win. Think 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: about thinking, I mean, you had seven sacks, Zeke didn't 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: get to a hundred yards. If we would have talked 63 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: about a Friday, we would have said, Okay, I'm gonna 64 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: lay this out for you. Ze's gonna be somewhere around 65 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: seventy five yards and they're gonna give up seventy five 66 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean they're gonna go seven sacks. We would have 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: all immediately been like, they're gonna get blasted. Like that 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: means they got blasted. If Zeke's not running well and 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: they're given up sacks, that means they got blasted. And 70 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: that shows you just how lead the defense was. Like 71 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: this was a whole different level of defense. I always 72 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: thought this defense was good. This year, this was on 73 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: another plane of defensive play. Like this is like we 74 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: talked about, Okay, now you called it it is elite game, 75 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: So now you feel confident about calling this defense an 76 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: elite defense. Last night I called their effort last night elite. Now, 77 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: when you start talking about elite defenses, they do it 78 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: for a season or more. I don't know if the 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys have been elite all season. What I know was 80 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: last night was an elite effort. And you and I 81 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: were having this debate, you were like, because I was saying, 82 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: at that moment, when Dave was questioning whether how Breeze 83 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: was gonna get the ball whatever, and I said, if 84 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: they can't stop them right now, this is not at 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: an elite defensive performance, because elite means not only do 86 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: you play well throughout the game, but you gotta finish. 87 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: And this defense really for a few years, I think 88 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: has been good enough to where they keep their team 89 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: in games sometimes and that kind of stuff. But when 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: it comes down to that final drive and you got 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers on the other side, or you got you know, 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: you name the good quarterback, they just can't win the game. 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: Last night, they finished it. Not only they finished, they 94 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: finished it by taking the ball from him. And that, 95 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: to me is where you look at teams going from 96 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: being good defenses to being elite defenses. Starting in twenty fifteen, 97 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: I would describe this defense as like sneaky good. Yeah, 98 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: like they don't give up touchdowns and you know you 99 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: can win, you can. They won't lose you games. They 100 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: just won you a game against Arguably the NFL is 101 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: the best team I've never seen a Cowboys team where 102 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: the offense basically no showed and they won against a 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: good team. I mean, you know, beat you beat the 104 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, the old Cleveland Browns. That's one thing, right, 105 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: beating this team basically getting next to no help from 106 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: your offense after the first quarter. It's amazing, you know. 107 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: It is on the Saints break right now that they're 108 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: talking about. I mean, it was a bad performance for 109 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: their offense, but I'm telling you this that that right 110 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: there is probably your favorite to win the whole thing 111 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: in my opinion. But yeah, still yeah, because because that defense. 112 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: I didn't give him enough credit. I really didn't. They 113 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: run the you know, the number one run def agreed, 114 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: their defense was really good too, So I mean, and 115 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: was Cam Jordan that said it, which puts you know 116 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: that it's it's actually complimentary for the Cowboys. He said, Oh, 117 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: that's cool. Maybe we'll see him again in New or 118 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: want to. I wish them the best because I want 119 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: to play him again. Yeah, I would too if that 120 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: was him. Now, I'll say this, um number seventy seven 121 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: is going to probably be there in that game a 122 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: little different that that is so impressive that this offensive 123 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: line and I'm not going to call him three backups. 124 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: I don't like that anymore. Because Connor Williams is healthy 125 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: he's not starting over. Was not healthy in that game, 126 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. He had a he had 127 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: a tough night on that ankle. But they will get healthy. 128 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: That's what's so impressive is that they were able to 129 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: win a game like this. It will sloppy at time, 130 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: especially on offense, you know, and Dak twenty four, twenty eight. 131 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about one incomplete past there, which is a 132 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: big play. I mean, it's one that he needs to make. 133 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: But man, I mean, I just thought with his offensive 134 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 1: line when you think about it, to beat the Saints 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: the way they did and did now to get ten 136 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: days off, you know, the number ten has been thrown 137 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 1: out a lot here lately. You know, ten game winning streak, 138 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: ten points by the Saints. Now ten days off. To 139 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: get better than that performance, that's impressive and get those 140 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: guys back that you that you just coverage seventy seven 141 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: fish on Lee speaking of ten, maybe ten, ten maybe ten. 142 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: I saw him running around last night. He's been dancing around. 143 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: He saw him run so and he seems good, and 144 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: I think that that will help all that help mean energy, 145 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: the energy that he has and the energy that he 146 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: would bring onto the field. That would be an amazing 147 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: addition to have back. I've never I've said this a 148 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: half dozen times since like yesterday, so forgive me, or 149 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: even in the last couple of weeks. I just I've 150 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: never had less of an idea about a team at 151 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: this stage in the season, like you, like, by by December, 152 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: which is basically December, you pretty much know if the 153 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: teams are you still there or are you saying this 154 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: was before this game? Just I've never seen a swing 155 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: like this well, I mean no, I mean yes, I'm 156 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: i this is amazing, Like, this is such an amazing 157 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: performance that you have to take them seriously. You've seen 158 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: swings like this before, though, I mean no, Okay, go 159 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: back maybe the one that jumped in my mind and 160 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: the one job I'm not talking about Cowboys, I'm talking 161 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: about around lad I'm talking about the Dallas Okay. I 162 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: Usually by December you're like, this team is not very 163 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: good or this team is really good, and then you 164 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: come you know, you come out here on Thursdayay of football. 165 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: They're supposed to lose to the Saints and you're the 166 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: only one that picked them. Congaculations, and then and then 167 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: they do that, and I mean they only won by 168 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: three points. I get it, but they looked dominant, at 169 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: least on the defensive side of the ball. And anybody 170 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: that watched that game, which is the highest rated Thursday 171 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: night football game ever, so everybody history ever, So everybody 172 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: he watched it, and so even the most but even 173 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: the biggest cowboy hater in the world has to acknowledge 174 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: that this team, Well, did he just something to be reckoned? 175 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: Did he? This morning? I don't know who that is. 176 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: It's ESPN guy. I don't pay attention to that. I 177 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: don't either. It's all it's all stick just wanted pro 178 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: wrestling for football. But also, let's say I'm talking about 179 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: the picks. I mean, it just feels like the elephant 180 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: in the room. And that's why you were freaking out 181 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: on the siline this. I've never seen you like that before. 182 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: I was freaking out of the press box. You did 183 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: have to be like, are you the one? Are you 184 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: the one that pounded on the table when miss gallup? RP? 185 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean, actually, p R that's what I mean saying No, 186 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: that was not me, No, that that moment was not 187 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: p But I was getting a little loud, like I 188 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: was getting a little loud. At one point, Nick was 189 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: kind of like, dude, Mickey Junior, and I'm just saying, 190 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: which is funny that me telling anyone dialogue Just so 191 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: you guys know, there's no cheering in the press box. 192 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: That's why we're talking there. But anyways, let's talk about 193 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: most people you pick the Cowboys, and you did. You 194 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: picked them a lot this year. But what there was 195 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: some game that you said though, that was that that 196 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: really played out here. You talked about this football team 197 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: is six and five on paper, but this team, this 198 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: team that is playing here, is not a six and 199 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: five team. It's playing at a different level. Vander esh 200 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: just taking them to another level. Dlass take them. Cooper 201 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: has taken the offense all rolled into one too. This 202 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: team is better and which is kind of what you said. 203 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: It's like, it's hard to say, are they seven and five? 204 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: This is a four and one team? Yeah? I mean, 205 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: is there any who else has won four in a row? 206 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: I was thinking, are they highest team? Houston one? No? Actually, 207 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: I literally you know, I had this dumb idea. I 208 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: was like, are the is this the two longest winning 209 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: streets in the NFL right now? It's it's not closets seven, 210 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: Houston's won eight, Chicago's won five. I think Minnesota's won 211 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: a few in a row. I believe like there's there's 212 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: a few. There's a few like that. There's a few. Yeah, well, 213 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean it's still that doesn't diminish four wins in 214 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: a row and they play. They played five games in 215 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: the month of November one four of them, which the 216 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: fact that they've looked as good as they have makes 217 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Laws even more perplexing. But whatever it was. 218 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: A month ago, wrote a quick story about they already 219 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: named vander Es the defensive Rookie of the Month and 220 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: for November with one game to play, it was kind 221 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: of like, well, you know, it's Thursday game, as someone's 222 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: got to do it. And you know, I thought, man, 223 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: I wonder if this is gonna like jinx him, you 224 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: know what I mean? No, not at all. And I 225 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: love the wolf Hunter Howling. I love the Wolf Hunter. 226 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: Now that they're doing that in the stadium, that's awesome. 227 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: He um, he's not the leader of that group. We 228 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: can talk about what d Law said and that was unbelievable. 229 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: It basically a script writer. But vander esh is the 230 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: best defensive player on the team in my opinion, do 231 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: y'all y'all agree with that? Is my opinion. I honestly 232 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: still think player. But you're I don't think you're crazy 233 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: like I don't agree. I mean, well as a leader obviously, DeMarcus, 234 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: but as of right now, I would say for sure, 235 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: Vander Okay, so let me ask you this. You go ahead, 236 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean it was your tweet. So which one the 237 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: one about DeMarcus is with that line? Oh? Yeah, No, 238 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean so far the season he let's 239 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: give him. I mean, he makes the fourth down stop 240 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: on a goal line stand that keeps the Saint Sad 241 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: of the end zone. He had four tackles, a sack, 242 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: and a forced fumble, and should have had another sack 243 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: and another forced fumble if not for a bogus off 244 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: side call. So he played himself a pretty damn good game. 245 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: He's And the thing about it is, to me, what 246 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: makes him so much better than even the stats is 247 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: what he does for everybody else. He makes everybody else 248 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: on that defense because guess what going into every game, 249 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: every offense is he's the guy we gotta worry about. 250 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: And in spite of that, he still puts up numbers 251 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: like that and manages to take a double team and 252 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: manages to give these other guys the leadership they need 253 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: in order to be the best versions of themselves they 254 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: can be. I just don't I don't think Vanderesh is 255 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: there yet from the standpoint of making everybody else better. 256 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: He's a great player, I don't think he's making everybody 257 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: else better when you had everything else like that off 258 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: the field stuff and the energy and the leadership. For sure, 259 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: hands down DeMarcus Lawrence. But I'm saying, like specifically playing 260 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: on the field without being aware of those untangible things. 261 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Vanders He's been all over the field. You see him 262 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: everywhere on the press box. All I hear is La 263 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Vendors made the tackle that probably I was about to say, 264 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: it's a different he's a different name every time, but 265 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: go ahead on DeMarcus Lawrence went down the line on 266 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: that fourth and one and made and made the tackle. 267 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: But most of the time, when you the defensive end 268 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: goes and makes that play, it's because the running back, 269 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: you know, the quickest running back in the league, didn't 270 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: get there. So I went I actually looked at that play. 271 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: I saw it a couple of times. Crawford, by the way, 272 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford to me, Keim and Looney to be of 273 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: the most underrated players on this team right now. Of 274 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: course they didn't give up seven sacks, so I would say, 275 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: right now, Crawford at the league but a little bit. 276 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: But you know who else was kind of stuff to 277 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: run on that play? Vander Esh I mean, he's right 278 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: there too, so he's a freak. And then quiet, not 279 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: quietly because he swipes every play, but fifty four if 280 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: he's your third best guy right now, like he makes 281 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: it well known that he made a play about that 282 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: guy as quiet, I say that admiration in my voice. 283 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: But then you know you're talking about the defensive line 284 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: and the linebackers. Six pass deflections. You were counting an 285 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: all game long those four in the first two series, 286 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: and by the way, they were both three and out, 287 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: so in six plays they had four pass deflections. Drew 288 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: Brees has been playing pro football since most of these 289 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: guys were in middle school, and he had never started 290 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: a game owing four in his entire career. Yep, and 291 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: think about this. We talked about this last week about 292 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: how the Saints play offense and how breeze. He doesn't 293 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: need separation. He's one of those quarterbacks that just puts 294 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: the ball right on the money and typically defenders can't 295 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: get tight enough coverage to be able to make affect 296 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: the play. That was exactly what they did last night. 297 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: The only difference was the Cowboys defensive backs were on it. 298 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: Like when I mean they were on it. They were 299 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: right on those receivers hips and they were able to 300 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: knock the balls down. That was the difference because in 301 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: most games, he completes a lot of those passes that 302 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: they ended up knocking down. To me, those defensive backs. 303 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: We can talk as much we want about vander esh 304 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: and about and about Tank, but to me, the MVPs 305 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: of that defense last night were the secondary. I think 306 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: those guys played a phenomenal game. Anthony Brown gave up 307 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: a thirty yard touchdown and I don't even care pushed 308 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: off but but well yeah, yeah, I mean like he 309 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: played it. He had a sack, he had two pass 310 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: for like, he played fantastic touchdown and be damned that 311 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: they all did. I believe that they did not call 312 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: a holding on Lawrence. I mean Lawrence was getting oh 313 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: he got tackle hug to the ground, and I'm like, well, 314 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: this is coming back. You know that's not in a 315 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: poorly officiated game. And I'm sure the Saints on both sides, 316 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: the Saints fans probably say the same thing, and they'll 317 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: be right. I mean, I thought there were some really 318 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: bad calls. And it's not college football, because if it 319 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: was Jalen Smith wasn't going to play the rest of 320 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: that game and probably wouldn't play next week if it 321 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: was he hit. There is no targeting call in the NFL, correct, 322 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: because it's targeting, is there? Because I kept every here 323 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: and everybody talk about that should have been targeting. But 324 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: I didn't think there was an actual targeting call. I 325 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: thought there was a personal file of launching yourself out 326 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: at a pump, but I didn't think there was like 327 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: targeting a targeting call. Don't put me on the spot. 328 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: I think I think there is now, but it's escaping me, 329 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: but not one that is like reviewable like this in college. 330 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: And then and they so they don't get into the 331 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: next game. They missed, They missed the hit on Jalen 332 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: should have been a flag. They missed the face mask 333 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: on Dak Randy Gregory, like that offside on that, like, 334 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: are you absolutely kidding with me right now? Like that? 335 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: And by the way, there were a number of plays 336 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: earlier in the game where I thought it should have 337 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: been a false start on on New Orleans. You and 338 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: I talked about it, Like one play Kamar took off running. 339 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: That's why the Prey even got a trend for this 340 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: entire season across the NFL. Is these guys moving early. Yeah, 341 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: it's very starting to look like Canadian football out there. Seriously, 342 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: these guys are like, like really quick. I mean, I 343 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: don't know, and it seems like that's within the rules 344 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: to do it, and some teams are taking advantage on him. 345 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: But that guy's as quick as anything. He doesn't need 346 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: any more of a head start. I can't you know. 347 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: I'll say this too great hit on that third down 348 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: play by um Jalen Smith, But Byron Jones made that play. 349 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: It's just Byron Jones and Kamara. I mean a lot 350 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: of guys don't even get a hand on him, and 351 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: he slowed him up just enough for Jalen to come 352 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: over there. I thought that was a huge play by 353 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: Byron Jones. I agree, a huge play by Jalen Smith, though, 354 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: I mean like Kamara got free from the tackle, and 355 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: it seemed like he had enough scheme that you would expect. 356 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: But it's most players. He's gonna clamor his way into 357 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: the end zone. And when Jalen Smith hits you, you 358 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: just stopped. We've seen the first time he gets out 359 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: there outside, it's almost like a train. Just run somebody over. 360 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: The next stops. Then next time a ball carrier falls 361 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: forward against Jalen Smith will be the first time. Right, 362 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: it's on Annie. 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Back to the Break, Welcome back. 407 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: This is the second segment of the Break. Now we're 408 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: gonna discuss that Prescott's performance last night. He completed twenty 409 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: four out of twenty eight attempts total two hundred forty 410 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: eight yards with the quarterback rating of one hundred fifteen 411 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: point five. It was great. Who would have thought, especially 412 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: when you compare it to what Drew Brees was unable 413 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, I thought he played a really, really 414 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: good football game. And I know that you know he's 415 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: not perfect, and he's gonna mispasses and his accuracy is 416 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, an is year at times. But twenty four 417 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: of twenty eight, I thought he did what he needed 418 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: to do. And you know what's not in that stat 419 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: line there is that ten yard run or eleven yard 420 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: run on third and ten when he was basically like, 421 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: you're not bringing me down, and that was cute. That's 422 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: the type of play that we're like, you know, I know, 423 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: we compare him or I do, at least to Cam 424 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: Newton that style. And then he was coming and he 425 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: came back and listed a deep ball that should have 426 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: been a touchdown that was very Cam Newton like in 427 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: that game. But just to run over that defense and 428 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: say I'm getting this first down. That's two weeks in 429 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: a row that he's made a play with his legs. 430 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: You know, I thought he played really really well in 431 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: You're right, he was. He was better than Drew Brees 432 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: and that game. And you know, actually, the thing about 433 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: him as a runner, I always people always when people 434 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: talk about him as a running quarterback, I always cost 435 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: him like he's not really a running quarterback because he 436 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: doesn't really make people miss. He doesn't really have elusive 437 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: kind of speed. None of that. But last night when 438 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: we saw it reminds me and I know again I 439 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: got on my Texas gear. That reminded me of what 440 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: Ellinger brings to the Longhorns. He didn't have to be elusive, ritty. 441 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 1: He's that guy that's gritty, and because Dak has that 442 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: kind of body, he's he's a bigger guy. He could 443 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: break tackles and that's what he did last night when 444 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: he made that run. There were two guys that should 445 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: have tackled him and he just wasn't going down. And 446 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: that's where if he can do that consistently without getting hurt, 447 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: by the way, that's where he can provide a great 448 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: value for this team as a running quarterback. Oh sorry, 449 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say again, not being effected after 450 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: getting sacked seven times throughout the game, his ability to 451 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: get back on his feed and keep going. Also, we 452 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: saw one of those plays where he attempted to make 453 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: a run and he just hesitated, waited a little too long, 454 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: and then got his sack. The fact that he puts 455 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: that behind and he's able to move on from that 456 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: and again attempt and not be scared to go for 457 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: it and run. That's amazing. They're seven or fourteen on 458 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: third down fifty I gotta run the numbers. But like 459 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: they're so much better on third down since they got 460 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: Cooper four of the seven or direct result of dak 461 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: he hit Jarwin on a third, he hit Cooper on 462 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: a third, and he hit Beasley on a third stretch 463 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: over the line. Then he you know, big big boy 464 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: Daddy run for twelve yards like he is clutch, and yeah, 465 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: I mean to continue to perform that way when he's 466 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: getting the hell knocked out of him. Absolutely, you're right. 467 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: The miss on gallop, he just looms so large in 468 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: my mind because you can put the game away and 469 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: then ball security has got to be better. It's been 470 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: a thing for him all year to the point where 471 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: like I'm like, do you need to wear gloves? Like 472 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: are your hands sweaty? What's going on here? I mean, 473 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: you know again, and that's what I said at the 474 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: top of the show, is like he fumbles, you don't 475 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: even get a field goal, so the Saints don't even 476 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: need to score a touchdown to potentially tie that game. 477 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: And I just I would have bet my whole savings 478 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: account that you know, it was going to be like 479 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers all over again, and Drew Brees is going 480 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: to lead them down to either send it to overtime 481 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: or win the game. And it's a testament to the 482 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: defense that he didn't. But those two plays, you know, 483 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: as clutch as he is, and you can clearly win 484 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: games with him, gotta be more accurate in situations like that. 485 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: And you can't put the ball in the turn. I mean, 486 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 1: he's probably fumbled like ten times this year, if I 487 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: had to guess, and you know, they've gotten fortunate that 488 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: a lot of them haven't gotten away from him, but 489 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: that one did and it could have been huge. One 490 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: for five in the red zone also is just putred. 491 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. I assume the kneel down on the 492 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: one counts for that. So really it's one of four 493 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: yeah right, yeah, but still yeah, you know, twenty five 494 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: percent in the red zones not beating a lot of teams, 495 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, And I know Jason gets gets tucked about 496 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: with his management. You know, when you look at this game, 497 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: I think anybody we've seen him so many times, anyone 498 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: other than Drew Brees and Braby, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, 499 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't think they would have been throwing the ball 500 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: like that, you know, to try to make sure and 501 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: try to get a touchdown there. I think that we've 502 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: seen before run the ball was run the ball, get 503 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: that field goal, go up by six. But I mean 504 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: it was pretty adamant, Like even as great as the 505 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: defense played, I don't think that even Jason Garrett, they 506 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: didn't want Drew Brees to have the football again. So 507 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: that's why he was even throwing it. I mean, didn't 508 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: already give it up six sacks. I didn't like those 509 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: calls down there like that. I mean because the way 510 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,239 Speaker 1: Zeke had already been running on that drive, you know, 511 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: being patient and then popping out, he could have maybe 512 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: gotten a first down. So I didn't like putting the 513 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: ball in his hands there. But you could tell just 514 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: the thought that they had about not one and Drew 515 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: Brees to get that ball again. I actually and I 516 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: didn't mind the calls at all. I think I tweeted 517 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: from the sideline, I was like, one of these needs 518 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: to be a run because you want the Saints to 519 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: either burn their time out or burn some clock. But 520 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: then I think you need to throw the ball and 521 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: give yourself a chance to go up two scores here, 522 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: because again, you know, again, that's what makes it so amazing, 523 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: is that's the way the NFL works. If you don't 524 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: cash in on that opportunity, when you're playing a quarterback 525 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: like that, eight out of ten times you're getting beat. 526 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: Like that's it's such a quarterback friendly league. These guys 527 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: are so good, and that's I was like, it's deja vu, 528 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: like we're just we're gonna threw Brees is gonna beat 529 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: him at the buzzer and the fact that he didn't 530 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: in spite of that, I just I can't say enough 531 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: about how the defense got them out of that situation. 532 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about two to go. I mean, 533 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: it's it's really it's a perfect time to throw the 534 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: same throughout a timeouse but you got the two minute warning. 535 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: It was a perfect time to throw that ball, and 536 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: he threw it out of the you know, out of bounce. 537 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: But it was interference, and that really won the game. 538 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: With Mark Cooper getting that past interference call I never got. 539 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: I assume it was a good call. I didn't even 540 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: see it. I haven't seen it either, but I just 541 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: I thought it was fitting way for that game to 542 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: end that you know, it's a flag that kind of 543 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: settles it, which, like I said, I assume it was 544 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: a good call, but I didn't get a good look 545 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: at it. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of flags in that game. Well, 546 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: clearly the Cowboys are still struggling to score more than 547 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: six points at a time and still settling for certain 548 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: field goals. Now, with the way that the defense played, 549 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: are you feeling comfortable with the Cowboys just making it 550 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: by the way they play last night or not last night? 551 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: Because I was really special the way the defense played, 552 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: but just having them being carried by their defense instead 553 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: of now relying on the running game and what the 554 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: old line can do. I think I kind of agree 555 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: with Nick. I think that was a bit of an 556 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: admiration from of the with the offense. From the standpoint 557 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: that I think that defense they played last night is 558 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: really good. Um, you look at they've been holding teams 559 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: to They've held Eagles to seven points. The game before that, 560 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: who the hell to a score twenty huh the Eagles 561 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: scored twins. I think about wait, no, no, he's talking 562 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: about the Saints. I'm sorry, So I'm sorry. And the 563 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: game before that, they held somebody to a low score 564 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: account as well the Beals. Yeah so, but the point is, 565 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: like this defense over the last couple of weeks, you 566 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: want to talk about the Cowboys being somewhat of a 567 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: different team. Their defense has been playing really really well 568 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: lately and been holding teams to really low number of points. 569 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: So it doesn't shock me that the Cowboys offense had 570 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: the kind of problems they did. I don't expect now 571 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys go next Sunday and they play the 572 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, whose secondary is completely just just beat up, 573 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,120 Speaker 1: and they still can't score more than thirteen points, now, 574 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: I think there's a problem. But what we've seen in 575 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: these last few weeks since they've added them right Cooper, 576 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: is this offense actually can score a good number of points. 577 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: They've been in the upper twenties. So I think when 578 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: you combine that with the defense, I think what we're 579 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: starting to see now is what a team really should be, 580 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: which is it will be some weeks when the offense 581 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have it and the defense is gonna have to 582 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: play out of its mind. They'll the other weeks when 583 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: the offense play is really good and the defense can 584 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: just manage the game. And if they can just play 585 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: well like they do most of the time, that'll be 586 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: sufficient for them to win. That's a good team. I 587 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna win a lot of games asking 588 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: your defense to do that on a regular basis, but 589 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the ultimate team game, right And even 590 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: with that thirteen spot during this four game winning streak, 591 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: they're averaging twenty three points per game, which isn't great, 592 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: but when your defense is good, it's enough. And yeah, 593 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean twenty seven against Philly, twenty two against Atlanta, 594 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: thirty one against Washington. You can absolutely when you're giving 595 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: up The defense is averaging giving up eight eighteen six 596 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: on the season, so you just scoring twenty three and 597 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: you're giving up eighteen, which yes, work out. They can't 598 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: make it a habit of being as lackluster on offense 599 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: as they were last night, but it's so encouraging. That's 600 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: That's what's so amazing is thirteen points gets you beat 601 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL more often than not. And it didn't. 602 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: And then this wasn't ten to six against the crappy 603 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Bucks in twenty fifteen. This was the Saints, which it's 604 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: amazing different. I mean, you look at the four game 605 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 1: winning streak, and as great as that sounds, and it 606 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: has been very good for this team, but you know, 607 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: they they've won by a total of twenty one points. 608 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: You know, and you look at the Saints that had 609 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: won a game by forty one against the Eagles and 610 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: thirty eight and all that, So there's the margin. Fair 611 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: was very slim. That's okay, that's okay if you're gonna 612 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: if you're gonna win the game, so as you're winning. 613 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: As long as you're winning. These fans right here that 614 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: are walking through this tour, they don't care. They don't 615 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: care if it was thirteen to ten or whatever. It's 616 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: a win. Maybe I'm you know, I'm maybe I'm too 617 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: close to it, but I've watched a ton of football 618 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: pro and co. That's the most riveting game with twenty 619 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: three combined points that I've ever seen. Like yeah, I mean, 620 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: it didn't feel like a low scoring game to me. 621 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: I can appreciate defensive football, but like you know that 622 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: overly defensive football usually is like watching paint dry. And 623 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: that was I was riveted. You want to know why 624 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: why I think that is for last night's game is 625 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: because and I have a friend of mine came into 626 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: town and she went to the game with my wife, 627 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: and we were talking last night when I got in 628 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: and she was like, I just I just kept assuming, Okay, 629 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: well here's where the Saints they're gonna take off. And 630 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: so I think the whole is probably like, well, eventually, yeah, 631 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 1: eventually it's the Saint and that and that started to 632 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: play out, like in the third quarter, they go down, 633 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: they get a field goal, they you know, a long 634 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: touchdown right down the numbers, you know, and maybe you 635 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: go maybe it was a push off, but they score 636 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: from thirty yards out and it's like, yep, here they come, 637 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: here we go. Offense didn't do enough, I mean, which 638 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: fans love to do this. But throughout the night, like 639 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: starting in the second quarter, people are like, that's ball 640 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: game because you know, the Saints are gonna get on 641 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: their role. It's over. The Cowboys are gonna lose their 642 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 1: up thirteen nothing, It's like, that's a game over, you know, 643 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: I do the five players, don't forget about I thought 644 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: the biggest play of the game to me, and it 645 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: was in that group was an eight yards sacked by 646 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown because they had just had that penalty of 647 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: Gregory being off sides and they were gonna get the 648 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: ball at the thirty five. Finally got the turnover they've 649 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: been waiting for and switching the momentum back and then 650 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: the off sides and then first down, so it's not 651 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: the first down midfield are about to get in field 652 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: goal range and eight yards sack off the edge. Great 653 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,239 Speaker 1: call by Marionelli in the defense to get that, and 654 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: then then they never even got they had to punt. 655 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: And then that punt that was one inch over the line. 656 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: That was a huge play too, because if the Cowboys 657 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: were on the one inch line, they're not driving it y, 658 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: They're not doing that and taking off eight minutes the 659 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: way they did. So I thought that those two plays 660 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: in a row, that sack and then that punt, it's 661 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: great call. Yeah, those were huge, huge play. Anthony Brown 662 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: two weeks in a row has had a sack and 663 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: he's making some really big plays. Sucks for Tyrone because 664 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: he's he's having the best season of his career, but 665 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: I feel like he hasn't gotten to have a moment, 666 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, well, I mean, I know he's got 667 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 1: like five sacks, but like he hasn't had a moment, 668 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: and that would have been a big moment. Yeah, what 669 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: he had the sack or he didn't have. No, I'm 670 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: saying the recovery on he recovered the fumble. Yeah, the 671 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: d law sack on the off side call, Yeah, ty 672 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: like it squirted out behind and I know I I 673 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: just walked off. I saw it, got frustrated and just 674 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: got up and left, like I didn't know if he 675 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: had to go to restaurom. I don't want to say 676 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: what I did him thinking. I didn't walk off and 677 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: I saw and I saw Amber actually coming out of 678 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: the restaurant. You didn't even see that play that we're 679 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: talking about with Gregory. He seen the highlights or something. 680 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: When I was walking back to my seat, I heard it. 681 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: I just heard the call, but I I didn't know 682 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,959 Speaker 1: how significant it was because it wasn't just a fumble. 683 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,719 Speaker 1: The ball got kicked like that. Yeah, and that's how 684 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: Tyrone eventually wound up with it. Randy's Randy's pinky finger 685 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: nail was on the in the neutral zone. I guess, 686 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, that's how much the Saints guys 687 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: Yale was on that, Yeah, you know, and that's about 688 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: how close Samar was or recovering his own fumble. I mean, 689 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: he was laying on top of it. It didn't know where. 690 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: It was like we did an episode of cover for 691 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: this morning and I point I was like, you tell 692 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: me that Amari Cooper loses a fumble on the Cowboys 693 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: side of the field in a game where the Cowboys 694 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: only scored thirteen points against the Saints. I'm like, Okay, 695 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: so they lost and Amari Cooper's the goat and we're 696 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: gonna be talking about this all week, and like I 697 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: forgot it happened. Hey, we haven't mentioned him yet. But 698 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: Michael Gallop to start the game, I mean I thought 699 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: he was about to have one of those nights and 700 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: then it was just kind of like with the rest 701 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: of the offense, he should have had one of those nights. 702 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, and if he had that touchdown, that would 703 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: have been the capra on that case. He's still that 704 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: was the best game of his career. It's it was 705 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: quiet because he stopped catching the ball after the first quarter. 706 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: But what he had seventy three right, three catches, four catches. 707 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: It's five catches on seven targets for seventy six yards, 708 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: and it's good night. If Dak hits him on that one, 709 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: then it's six catches for like what one hundred and 710 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: twenty something and a touchdown. He's given him a deep threat. 711 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: You gotta love the youth and where they have the 712 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: youth on this team, Like think about him and Amari Cooper. 713 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean you can just you can go through the 714 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: team and look at guys like they got these just 715 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: it's it's almost like they're building. I guess they are, 716 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: but it's they're building this young nucleus and you got 717 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: these two linebackers, and you got these two cornerbacks, really 718 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: three cornerbacks, and you got really four cornerbacks. I mean 719 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: they got It's just like they are building something here 720 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: that could be really good. And that's the rough thing 721 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: about that is the NFL changes on a dime, So 722 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: what you think right now can change drastically next year 723 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: and the year after. But they certainly are building something 724 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: that makes you feel really good about where they are. 725 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: Jerry said it last night. He's like, you know, this 726 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: is one of, if not the youngest roster in the NFL, 727 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: and you're seeing these guys grow and develop as the 728 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: season goes along, and you know, for all the bumps 729 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: and ruses they've taken along the way. They don't develop 730 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: like that without playing, you know, think you know, the 731 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: mistakes they made against Houston Seattle comes to mind, you know, 732 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: broken plays against them, and you know that's that's definitely 733 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: on me, Like I and again going back to my 734 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: point about not knowing what this team was like it. 735 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: You know, football teams are like living evolving things, and 736 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: it's easy to fall into the trap of like the 737 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: team in September is going to be the team in December, 738 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, and that's when the Cowboys have been good. 739 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: In the time that I've been here, They've been good 740 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: right at the outset, like from the very beginning, like 741 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about that, and there's some 742 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: ebbs and flows, but you know, they're good. And so 743 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 1: it's weird and cool to see this team evolving into 744 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: a good team as the season goes along, because they 745 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: were not a good team even as recently as November fifth. 746 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, this, I mean, this game reminds me a 747 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: lot of that. We talked about the O nine game 748 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: with the with the Saints, how great they were, they 749 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: had won thirteen in a row. The couples were able 750 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: to beat them, but that season is starting to shape 751 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: up a little bit the same. It was, you know, 752 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: middle of the pack early in the year. And then, 753 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: of course I told you that earlier. You know, they 754 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: got a emergence from a wide receiver who wore number 755 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: nineteen that really kind of propelled them to another level. 756 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: So that's kind of what what's happening with this team 757 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: and the guy named DeMarcus that that kind of put 758 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: them on in their back as well. So, um, that 759 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: was an eleven and five finish. They're gonna have to 760 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: win four more in a road to get to that, 761 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: which is doable. Right now, They're not going to be 762 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: underdogs in any game, right I would get on the 763 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: road maybe, yeah, that'll they'll be right there. I mean, 764 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: coming off of that game. I'm not saying you can't 765 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: say they will, but they should. They shouldn't finish any 766 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: worse than based on the way they played, because they 767 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: also had a rough patch earlier and then they got 768 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: on a roll. And I think they're one of the 769 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: teams has a nice streak going as well. Yeah, um, 770 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: but I think they're very similar. So on the road 771 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: they might be they might be underdogs by three maybe, 772 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: but yeah, other than that, this is a very doable 773 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: schedule down the stretch. I mean ten and six will 774 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: win the division. I think nine and seven still will 775 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: win the division, but the seven wins shoot for that. 776 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: I think nine and seven wins in the division. If 777 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: if the two wins are Philadelphia and the Giants, I 778 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: think that will win the division. But ten and six 779 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: will will will win the division, and especially if you 780 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 1: beat the Eagles. Yeah, you know, it's it's like every week, 781 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: it's like, no, this is this is the biggest game. 782 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: Think about that, though, if you go back a few 783 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: weeks ago, before you got to the Tennessee game, or 784 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: right after the Tennessee game, you look at this schedule 785 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,280 Speaker 1: and you said, Okay, this is the meat of their schedule. 786 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: This is these next what five games, they're they're gonna 787 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 1: be playing really really good teams. And you at the 788 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,479 Speaker 1: best case scenario, maybe they go three and two and 789 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: they have managed to reel off four in a row 790 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: and now heading down a stretch against a Philly team 791 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: that isn't as good as you thought maybe they would 792 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: be at that point. So again, things change in the NFL. 793 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 1: NFL in a dime but this team is certainly looking 794 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: up from where we thought they were four weeks ago, 795 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: just a month ago. You just can't get rid of them. 796 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 1: You can, I mean, I mean them him, I mean 797 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: like every time we'll talk about it, don't get Amber started. Yeah, 798 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: go into our final break, and when we come back, 799 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: I do want to discuss coaching and play calling, and 800 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: we'll get this fart up in here. While the player 801 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: can look good on paper, it's when he's out on 802 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: the field that you really find out what he's made of. 803 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: That's why the Cowboys rely on more than just stats 804 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: and scouting reports when building their team. When picking a tractor, 805 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 1: it's why you should rely on more than just specs 806 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: and features. You've got to take it out and put 807 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: it to the test. 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That's the way in 847 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 1: the place that you're gonna get the best underwear in 848 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: the world if you don't think so by the time 849 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: of John dot com Forward slash Cowboys. Tom all right, 850 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for that. Now very quickly we 851 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: tend we as fans tend to really really criticize the 852 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: play calling and the coaching when you lose a game. 853 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: But to be fair, I just wanted to get your 854 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: overall thoughts on how the game was managed and the 855 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: play calling of these coaches throughout this game. I want 856 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: to get your opinions because you ended the last Yeah, 857 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: let's go fight. You give us your opinions first, and 858 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: then we'll jump in and drop that. That's the second part. Okay, Okay, 859 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: let's go. I mean, what was the plan going into 860 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: the game. The plan was to keep Drew Brees off 861 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: the field. They won the time of possession thirty six 862 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: fifty three to twenty three oh seven with a with 863 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: a running game that was not clicking on all cylinders, 864 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: so and getting sacked a bunch. They kept it simple 865 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: for Daky eight. A lot of it was short throws. 866 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, they stayed on the field. They didn't 867 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: cash in all the times with points. But I thought 868 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: they managed the game great. They were able to do 869 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: that final drive in seven or eight minutes, and you 870 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 1: you even said that, You're like, let's just get a 871 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: drive here and win the game. I mean, they didn't 872 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: really win the game, but they certainly, you know, it 873 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: took a lot of time off that. So I think 874 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: you have to give the Cowboys credit, their coaching staff 875 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: credit for the game plan, both on offense and on defense. 876 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: I think defense was the key, because if you notice, 877 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: they had some wrinkles for him last night. One of 878 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 1: the things I noticed was, and you guys probably noticed 879 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: as well, when they get into situations where it was 880 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: third down and long, they went to dime and they 881 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: don't do that very often. They took that second linebacker 882 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: off which field, the Vanderesh right, which at first, Nick, 883 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: I think it was you that was saying, like, I 884 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: don't like Vanderesh coming off the field, But it worked 885 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: out really well, and because what they were doing was 886 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: if you notice, there were a few times they had 887 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis manned up on Kamara. Kamara is a receiver. 888 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: Every time it was third and longch right, he is 889 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: a receiver. Put a cornerback on him. You have a 890 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: better chance of stopping him than a linebacker. And that's 891 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: nothing against vanderish or or or or any linebacker for 892 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 1: that matter, but a cornerback is going to be better 893 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: at that. And so to me, that was just all 894 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: about coming into a game saying, we feel like we 895 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: can get a good match up here to stop them 896 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: by doing this, and it's something we don't normally do, 897 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: and they did it, and they did it effectively. Gotta 898 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: give coaches credit for that. I mean, obviously, the defensive 899 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 1: game plan was amazing. You know, Jerry Jones said it 900 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: after the game too, is but you guys do realized 901 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 1: us that wasn't the direction I was going to. I 902 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: wasn't talking about the defense. That's exactly that's the one 903 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: here from you. But ahead, we're getting it. We're getting like, 904 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: calm down. We got to twelve minutes, pretty calm. You 905 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: don't seem calm um the first Okay, Jerry Jones said 906 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: after the game, you gotta give Jason credit for a 907 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 1: win like that, because you know he would be getting 908 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: roasted after a loss. I think those are wise words. Um, 909 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: give them all credit for their game plan. It worked out. 910 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: They probably didn't expect to have to lean on their 911 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: defense as much as they did. I don't I mean 912 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: the red the red zone play calling, I just hate it, 913 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: which I don't. I feel bad offering criticism because I'm 914 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: not sure what I would have done. Differently because again, 915 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, me and Nick said at the top of 916 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: the show that run defense is legit, like they deserve 917 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: all the credit in the world. So I don't know 918 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: that just banging away against that front with Ezekiel Elliott 919 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,919 Speaker 1: would have worked out any better. But two red zone 920 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 1: possessions ended with Dak Prescott being sacked. And that's in 921 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: a game where you know that the left side of 922 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: your line is not healthy slash starting a backup tackle, etc. 923 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: I don't I would have liked to see different play 924 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: calling there, but to get you know, running it up 925 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: the gut probably wouldn't have worked either, So I hesitate 926 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: to absolutely kill them. But again, one for four in 927 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: the crucial red zone moments of the game's just not 928 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: going to do it. It's just not Yeah, I agree 929 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: with that. You know that they at least gave the 930 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: ball to Zeke on first down from the seven and 931 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: he went wide, but then try to cut it back 932 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: inside and then and then they threw twice in a 933 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 1: row and he should have got sacked on second down, 934 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: and he made a nice play to get out of that. 935 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 1: Then on third down he did get sacked. This was 936 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: early in the game. That was the first Yeah, that 937 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: was the first field goal drive to to my point, 938 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: to the Saints credit, Zeke bounced that run right off 939 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: left tackle, and for a half second it looked like 940 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: he was going to walk into the end zone, and 941 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,840 Speaker 1: the Saints just absolutely rallied and shut a good defense 942 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: and defense there. I thought he should have stayed wide 943 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: and and I think he thought the best way to 944 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 1: score a touchdown was to cut back and break a tackle. 945 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: But I think if he would have stayed wide, he 946 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: could have gotten two or three more yards, which could 947 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 1: have changed the play calling there. But you know, it 948 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: was it's tough to score down there, and and they 949 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: don't just bully people off the ball anymore. That's not 950 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: what their offensive line is. So it's getting tougher and 951 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: tougher to score when you're at that at that point 952 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: in the game. And you know, and they're trying to 953 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,879 Speaker 1: be kind of conservative as well, but you know, when 954 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: you have a defense like that, you know you don't 955 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 1: want you don't want to fill an interception like he 956 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: did in Tennessee. I hesitate to criticize them in this instance, 957 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,919 Speaker 1: but Scott Linahan actually talked about this on Thursday. He's like, well, yeah, 958 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: we don't just run it three straight times because we 959 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: know that's what the defense thinks we're gonna do, you know, 960 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: And like there's like it feels like there's an element 961 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 1: of they outthink themselves when they get down there. They're like, well, 962 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 1: we can't just run the ball. Just because they think 963 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna do it didn't mean that we can't run 964 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: the ball. And you know, Beasley dropped the touchdown in 965 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 1: the red zone and Noah Brown was there, so again 966 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 1: like I can't just kill him. But the red zone 967 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: offense is just not good enough that something play calling 968 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: is part of that, and it's gonna be the stats 969 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 1: are gonna be kind of skewed again because they've got 970 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: down to the four yard line and then or one 971 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 1: yard line and then they kneeled it. So I was like, 972 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 1: if it's like that's the college football fan in me, 973 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: I was like, just run it in and just just 974 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,359 Speaker 1: get the kind of style. The style points and while 975 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: it helps your red zone, I mean, two out of 976 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: two out of five is better than one out of five. 977 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 1: But the only way to fall way to lose the 978 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 1: game is to do that then and then the Saints 979 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: will drive down that score on site really gonna get blessed. 980 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,399 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be I shouldn't be a football coach because 981 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, just do it. Twenty to ten looks way better. 982 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 1: Come on. Yeah, all right, Well, before we started talking 983 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: about Jason Garrett specifically, I wanted to make a quick 984 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: clarification last show when I made that job at the 985 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 1: end of the show, I was specifically talking about Kellen 986 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 1: Moore and Dak needing a new coach that has and 987 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: no offense to Kellen Moore. I think he's a great guy, 988 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: very smart guy, but he just needs as far as Dak, 989 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 1: he just needs a better quarterback coach, someone with more experience, 990 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,959 Speaker 1: experience on the field, that has been successful at doing 991 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: that kind of job and be able to do. Okay 992 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,759 Speaker 1: that being said, and I think we all agree on that. 993 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: I think we've talked about that before. Like I think 994 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: we all kind of agree on that. Thank you that 995 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: you know, going through my calms last night. A lot 996 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: of fans as of right now have very mixed feelings because, yes, 997 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 1: on one hand, they're very much enjoying this win and 998 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: four winning games. Now, on the other hand, what does 999 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: that mean for Jason Garrett? A lot of people want 1000 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: him out of the picture, want to move on from him, 1001 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,879 Speaker 1: although they still want to see game wins. But as 1002 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: of right now, how are things How would you project 1003 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 1: that this is lining up for Garrett? This is what 1004 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 1: so sorry, go ahead, No, this is exactly you know, 1005 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: people think that we are like mouthpieces or homers when 1006 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 1: we say save that for after the season. This is 1007 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: exactly why. Like, that's exactly why you play this thing out. 1008 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,239 Speaker 1: Nobody could have seen where this would have been five 1009 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago. And for that matter, if you want to 1010 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: handle both sides of the coin. We just talked about 1011 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: this during the break, that's gonna ratchet right back up. 1012 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 1: If they fall off, you're seven and five. Now this 1013 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: is a much better team. But I have vivid memories 1014 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: of twenty thirteen. The Cowboys were seven and five coming 1015 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: off Thanksgiving. They had it all in front of them. 1016 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,919 Speaker 1: They get blasted two weeks in a row. They lose 1017 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 1: to the Bears, they give up a twenty point lead 1018 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 1: to the Packers, and all of a sudden they're right 1019 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: back where they were. So things change on a dime 1020 00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And if they're seven and seven in 1021 00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 1: two weeks and I mean, if they don't make sorry, 1022 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs, now, that's a horrible 1023 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: look for Jason Garrett and we will be right back 1024 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,319 Speaker 1: where we were. So it was too early to talk 1025 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,319 Speaker 1: about firing him when he was three and five. It's 1026 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: too early to talk about whether he will be the 1027 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,839 Speaker 1: long term coach here when he's seven and five. There's 1028 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,319 Speaker 1: a month left of the season to play football. It's 1029 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 1: almost as if you should wait and gather as much 1030 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: data as possible before you try to spout off hot time. 1031 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 1: There's a mark that, as of right now, you would 1032 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: start saying, Okay, well, if they do make it to 1033 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs, okay, maybe he stays, but if maybe they 1034 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: lose this way, then he goes. So what is what 1035 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: would you say, is that mark that line that would 1036 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:04,040 Speaker 1: that final decision, or that you would think, like Jerry 1037 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: Jones would make that final decision to let him go 1038 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: or you stay either way? Right? I think Dave's right 1039 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: on this one. I mean, you can say all you 1040 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: want to about how how great things are, but how 1041 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: does it end? How does this story end? Um? What 1042 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: if they win every single game from here on out 1043 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,839 Speaker 1: and they're eleven and five and they're the third set 1044 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 1: and they lose the first game at home. That's not 1045 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: good to a lower CE team. Yeah, I mean it 1046 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 1: would be to the sixth seed, to the worst team 1047 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, right, But who, by the way, probably 1048 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,040 Speaker 1: already beat the daunced this season. Yeah, Carolina or Minnesota 1049 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,200 Speaker 1: could be sitting there too, And what about that, you know, 1050 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: Green Bay. Maybe I don't know if he gets it going. 1051 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 1: But but again, I think Dave's right on this one. 1052 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 1: You have to wait and see how how it plays out. 1053 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: What if you do win, I mean, you win a 1054 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: game and then you go to New Orleans or LA 1055 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: and have to play and maybe it's ugly this time around. 1056 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I just you have to wait and see 1057 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: how this thing ends. But one thing I've never understood 1058 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: about a fan, and I'm a fan as well. I've 1059 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: got a college team that I root for. I'm a fan, 1060 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 1: I get it. I've never wanted my team to lose 1061 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: to so I could change the coach. If the coach 1062 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 1: is good enough to win games, then then I want him. 1063 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, like, let's see what reality is. But I 1064 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: know fans just think, well, we're only gonna be just 1065 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 1: middle of the pack with this guy. And you know, 1066 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: but I've I've never wanted to like lose game. You 1067 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,399 Speaker 1: said there's mixed results. How could there be? I don't 1068 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: understand there could be mixed results a feelings because again, okay, 1069 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 1: you've seen how long Jason Garrett has been here for. 1070 00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: You've seen what he's done so far. So he's like, Okay, 1071 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: you get into this habit of oh, yeah, maybe we're 1072 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 1: losing this game, but then you get hyped we win 1073 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 1: this game. Yes, maybe we're in. We're in Okay, yes 1074 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: we're going forward disappointment again. So yeah, that's the thing. 1075 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 1: Three and five football team that got embarrassed on Monday 1076 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: night football. And they got two games in a road 1077 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,400 Speaker 1: against playoff teams on the road, Philadelphia in Atlanta, and 1078 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 1: he gets them ready to go out there and play. 1079 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: And actually they dominated that Philadelphia game, even though the 1080 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: score didn't look like it. They were the better football team. 1081 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 1: They were the better football team against the Falcons. They're 1082 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: way better against the Redskins, and they were better team 1083 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: last night. If this guy doesn't deserve a little bit 1084 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: of credit for saying, we're gonna keep doing it like this, 1085 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get these guys ready to play. I mean, 1086 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,160 Speaker 1: like him or not, that is an impressive feat for 1087 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,279 Speaker 1: the coach. I've said it more times than I can count, 1088 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,480 Speaker 1: and people roll their eyes at me, like there's a 1089 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 1: lot of Jason Garrett has a lot of deficiencies. I 1090 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: do not think he's a great game day exes and 1091 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,160 Speaker 1: o's management. I mean, he has his moments. I don't 1092 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,439 Speaker 1: think he's amazing at it. He's robotic. I don't enjoy 1093 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 1: his press conferences very much. But he gets these guys 1094 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 1: to play for him and has the entire time, And 1095 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,799 Speaker 1: that's why it was so weird when they lost two 1096 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 1: games in a row, you know, a month ago. They 1097 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: don't do that under him. And I can hear people 1098 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 1: right now just like you wind up eight Nate, Okay, cool, 1099 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,399 Speaker 1: but a Nate's the hell of a lot better than 1100 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: one and seven and some other results you've seen around here. 1101 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: So I get it. Like I said, he ain't perfect, 1102 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,840 Speaker 1: but if he can rally them to do that against 1103 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: the Saints, he is not a bad football coach. Yeah, 1104 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, kind of similar of kind of what's happening 1105 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: with Dak right now that you really really value the 1106 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: things off the field, the things that they are able 1107 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,439 Speaker 1: to do as far as a leader, and you know, yes, 1108 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: technically they're not perfect, but at the same time, they 1109 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: keep everyone on the same team and keep everyone going 1110 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: and de fight to see the way that, like you mentioned, 1111 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,520 Speaker 1: the whole team, how they back up Mark no Jason, 1112 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 1: I forgot his name for a second. How could I 1113 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: But the fact that you see them being all in 1114 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 1: and that they don't get beat down or feel down, 1115 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: or that the energy starts changing as they start losing game. 1116 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,839 Speaker 1: That's a key thing. And I started seeing a lot 1117 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: of comments before this as okay, maybe the defense starting 1118 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 1: to give up on their offense, the fact that they're 1119 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,479 Speaker 1: not really helping them out, And I think it's really 1120 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: been the opposite. They've been bringing the offense back up 1121 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,439 Speaker 1: and elevating the whole energy of the game. So say 1122 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 1: what you want about about like they've said about his 1123 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 1: game management and those kinds of things. I think there's 1124 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: plenty of evidence there that suggests that people have reasons 1125 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: to have a quarrel with him about some of those things. 1126 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: But I have not seen a guy that motivates men 1127 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 1: as well as he has in a long time. There 1128 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: are only a few coaches I think that are as 1129 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,759 Speaker 1: good at motivating men as he is. And that's me 1130 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: because I get to see and you guys too, you've 1131 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,760 Speaker 1: seen it as well. We get to sometimes see behind 1132 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 1: the curtain and see some of the speeches that he 1133 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,799 Speaker 1: gives to this team and some of the things he 1134 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 1: says to them, and see how they take those things. 1135 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: And if you start noticing, you start hearing these patterns. 1136 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 1: Things he's saying to them is the same things that 1137 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: they're saying to the media. That means they're not rolling 1138 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,479 Speaker 1: their eyes. That means they're not dismissing what he says. 1139 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,919 Speaker 1: They're actually taking it in and they're actually buying in. 1140 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: And so I really believe from standpoint of motivation, he's 1141 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: a very very very good coaches. It's the other things 1142 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: that seem to be maybe the reason why his record 1143 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,799 Speaker 1: just hasn't reflected him being a great coach. Motivation is 1144 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,720 Speaker 1: not the issue in a league with this much parody. 1145 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,279 Speaker 1: Go take the last five years and look around, look 1146 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: at every team in the league. I guarantee you all 1147 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 1: of them get their asses absolutely kicked a couple of 1148 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: times this season. I mean the New England Patriots got 1149 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,000 Speaker 1: their asses absolutely handed to them by the Titans two 1150 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,359 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Detroit did a number on them as well. 1151 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: In Jason Garrett's entire tenure here, that's maybe happened like 1152 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,839 Speaker 1: three times. That to me, more than anything, is just him. 1153 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: Like like I said, it's a recipe for eight and eight. 1154 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But they are always competitive, 1155 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 1: they always play hard for him, and that is impressive 1156 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: to me. But we had a speech the other night 1157 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: as well. I mean that players aren't talking about did 1158 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: not want to talk to They're not talking specifically, but 1159 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,480 Speaker 1: it's going. It was going around that that that was 1160 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,359 Speaker 1: a really big, you know point when when they were like, 1161 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: you know what, we're going out, we're gonna play hard, 1162 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna win this game. Not not that that they 1163 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 1: need that, but you know, it's hard to keep doing 1164 00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,600 Speaker 1: different messages every every time. So I think that something 1165 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: was said Wednesday night and that there is something to 1166 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: be said. I think for you know, you say they're 1167 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: professionals and they should always be up, and I get that, 1168 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 1: and that's true, but there is something too. Whenever you're 1169 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: doing any kind of competition, someone being able to remind 1170 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,919 Speaker 1: you and put things into your head that in those 1171 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,479 Speaker 1: tough moments of the game can kind of play back 1172 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: in your head and it reminds you of what your 1173 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 1: purpose is. Right, So those things matter. I don't think 1174 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,400 Speaker 1: that that you can say that it doesn't matter that 1175 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 1: when when when a coach has a has a speech 1176 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 1: to this team, and and whether he's whether he's really 1177 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: motivating them or not, like that matters. It makes a 1178 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: difference that sometimes when I hear him, I'm like, give 1179 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,719 Speaker 1: me some paths. I'm ready, throw me on the get 1180 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 1: me on the field, get killed, murder on the field. 1181 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: All right, Well, that is all the time we have 1182 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,959 Speaker 1: for today. Guys, enjoy this wing savor is it tastes good? 1183 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: Long weekend? Weekend? Long weekend? Okay? 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