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Speaker 2: All right, we back another episode of Club five twenty podcasts.

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Speaker 2: I'm the host, my name is DJ Wells. We got

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Speaker 2: a special special guest.

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Speaker 3: In the building.

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Speaker 2: Yo vet a legend. To my left, Man, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: introduce my man's last to my far left. We got

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Speaker 2: my dog. Bishop be hearing out the pre legs. How

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Speaker 2: you was nasty, cool and nasty. Let's get to a baby.

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Speaker 3: Let's see Bibby.

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Speaker 2: Normally he come to work and you know how to struggle,

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Speaker 2: and he come to work with the black forces of

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Speaker 2: the White Lacey. But he had to tell them we're

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Speaker 2: gonna let him work out in the prime time today.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Man, shout out to prime Man.

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Speaker 3: He got the t and though both all day. He

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Speaker 3: started off to my right, my dog young not your

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Speaker 3: young tea.

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Speaker 1: Got you what Man, I'm chilling and I had to

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Speaker 1: put some Jordans on for team down Man. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: my God showed me so much loving Onlon. I'm so

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Speaker 1: high for this episode.

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Speaker 5: My o, G.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you do the honest. DJ and Man

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Speaker 3: for show Man.

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Speaker 2: Listen Man, one of my favorite players of all time,

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Speaker 2: man before the Steph Curry he was the cod is

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Speaker 2: Light skinning point guard. Ever man got a long time

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Speaker 2: NBA fed sneaker fishing out. We got the man Mike

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Speaker 2: Bibby in the building. Appreciate you slide on this, big dogs.

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Speaker 5: Y'all, haven't man, I've been. I told Jeff, Jeff, you

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Speaker 5: got to get me on there man. Soon I called him.

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Speaker 5: I was wondering if you I'm surprised you have the

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Speaker 5: same fucking number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't switch up too much.

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Speaker 5: And I called him, I said, Jeff, I need to

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Speaker 5: get on there, man, So you know, I appreciate you

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Speaker 5: getting me on here.

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Speaker 4: Show man.

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Speaker 3: We excited.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I tell everybody that's the best teammate og

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Speaker 1: I had.

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Speaker 3: He showed me love, he showed me the roads.

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Speaker 5: Fucked up too, because real because I wasn't the guy.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't the bit that I wanted to be. Because

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Speaker 5: that's some ship in the upper management going on. When

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Speaker 5: they draft, I'm like, damn, they're trying to get me

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Speaker 5: out of here. They got a point guard. I didn't

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Speaker 5: really know much about you when you came, but when

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Speaker 5: you know, eventually take it over. But I mean, I

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Speaker 5: feel like I didn't give I gave you a little bit.

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Speaker 5: I didn't give you all that I think I should have,

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Speaker 5: just because the ship that was going on.

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Speaker 1: Man now, but you used to always tell me, like

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Speaker 1: my rookie year, you showed me love. I really have

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Speaker 1: to pay for nothing I have to I was out

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Speaker 1: whatever I had to do. You made sure I was okay.

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Speaker 1: But you always told me, like, your time gonna come.

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Speaker 1: You enjoyed mind used to be like, yo, your time

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Speaker 1: gonna come. Don't worry about the big because I wasn't playing.

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Speaker 1: You like, don't trip about it. Your time gonna come.

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Speaker 1: He was like you, like, you're gonna replace me. And

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Speaker 1: as a young dude, I couldn't understand that. I'm like

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Speaker 1: many he keeps saying that, bro, I want to play

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Speaker 1: right now. And then as I got older, I was like, dang,

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Speaker 1: I know what Bigby was talking about.

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Speaker 5: See, but what what do you always what? He started

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Speaker 5: me out of respect? You know what I mean? There

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Speaker 5: was times, you know, when I first got there, you

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Speaker 5: know it was time. But the second year, halfway through

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Speaker 5: the second year is like, okay, I'm trying to I'm

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Speaker 5: starting to wind down. But then even in the third year,

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Speaker 5: he had to start me just out of respect, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean. And even when I went to

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Speaker 5: and start me. I'm like, what he I'm done. I

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Speaker 5: time would come. Man. You took over that team and

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Speaker 5: led that team to the next playoffs when it was coming.

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Speaker 3: So I appreciate it. Man.

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Speaker 1: I did learn a lot though, Like I couldn't shoot, like,

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Speaker 1: but the pocket passing and stuff like, I learned that

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Speaker 1: Al Horford for so like. But he's like, hey, this

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Speaker 5: And I was like, yeah, I remember the one time

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Speaker 5: he was in practice and I you know, I mean

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Speaker 5: I I catched the ball from it. You know, they

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Speaker 5: make a standing this close to me. I said, Jeff,

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Speaker 5: what do you do? He's like, man, they told me

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Speaker 5: to pick you up full court. I said, for fucking

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Speaker 5: You're gonna try to work and practice. I'm trying to

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Speaker 5: say this ship for the game. Man, I'm just like,

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Speaker 5: come on, I just throw that ship to Joe. Joe smooth,

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Speaker 5: go ahead, y'all. I mean like, as soon as I

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Speaker 5: he's standing. They just told me to pick you up

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Speaker 5: full court. I got to pick you up. Come on.

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Speaker 3: Every practice too, man, practice for sure.

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Speaker 5: That might cut my years down. Problem, yeah, Man, Like,

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Speaker 5: come on, man, just pick me up at half Man,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna come down and swing it, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: be the fifth option. You know what i mean. Come

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Speaker 5: to me. I'm gonna shoot it.

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Speaker 3: So man, we got we got to the origins.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, Man, your basketball career is crazy, especially

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Speaker 2: with today's climbing with the nil and stuff.

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Speaker 3: How good you were in high school?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: You the cash there early.

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Speaker 5: I would have liked a little bit. Man. I didn't

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Speaker 5: need the five million that they're getting now, but I

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Speaker 5: would I could have took a couple of thousand, a

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Speaker 5: couple when you're coming from nothing, we couldn't even get

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Speaker 5: a slice of pizza. You were there when you couldn't

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Speaker 5: even get a slice of pizza for free. Fact. So man,

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Speaker 5: it's good, like the money they getting there, and it's good.

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Speaker 5: But when you get paid more than the coach, that's crazy. Nothing.

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Speaker 5: If I'm playing man and I'm making more than the coach,

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Speaker 5: coach won't be able to tell you anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially sixteen seventeen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, man, But it's about time to get them.

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Speaker 5: They deserve the money, man, deserve it.

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Speaker 1: But if you was to get paid you, how much

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Speaker 1: you think you would have got? Liked to go to

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Speaker 5: I think it's been a lot. Everybody always talks about

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Speaker 5: how much money I got from going to Arizona.

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't get a dime go to Arizona. No, I

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Speaker 5: believe I know you got some money.

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Speaker 1: Not when I got there, I got some money. I

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Speaker 1: didn't get none to go there. But when I got there,

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Speaker 1: I definitely made my around.

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Speaker 3: Maybe about eight yeah, for sure to get But he

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Speaker 3: was the number one, number one point guards class. He

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Speaker 3: was a Gatorade Player of the Year ninety six.

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Speaker 5: Looking at these guys now, like you're getting some backups

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Speaker 5: and stuff now making a million two million, That was

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Speaker 5: the guy the football player from Texas, the backup.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about talking about taking like.

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Speaker 5: Three million dollars. Ain't play the game yet.

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Speaker 3: That's many.

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Speaker 5: Clearly everybody known Henry was like the most Henry. The

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Speaker 5: most money Henry ever made in the season was seventeen thousand.

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Speaker 3: Wrong, man, what thousand?

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Speaker 1: The NBA dem are Oh yeah, but they they owe

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Speaker 1: some of the old guys.

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Speaker 3: They definitely do.

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Speaker 4: You definitely do for Henry on and clear seventeen. It's crazy.

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Speaker 5: That's we're playing with Maurice Cheeks, doctor j Doug Collins, yeah,

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Speaker 5: se Darryl Dawkins. So you have a lot of guys

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Speaker 3: That's a squad. Yeah, but you can't hoop it and

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Speaker 3: have to have a part time job. That's that's.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 5: A lot of them was like that back then.

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Speaker 2: It was so like we said, man, we in Arizona

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Speaker 2: and what you did in the shorts man like legendary stuff,

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Speaker 2: and man, we got to you know, we talked about

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Speaker 3: We just got to start there.

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Speaker 2: How was that to be at like that school where

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Speaker 5: We really weren't. We were just you know what happened.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you the story of how we got

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Speaker 5: the phones we got. So back then, everybody always like

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Speaker 5: So the Nike guy comes before the tournament and was like, hey,

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Speaker 5: I got a shoe for you guys. It's not out

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Speaker 5: yet and it's not your color. But soon as you

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Speaker 5: say it's not out yet, I said, I don't care

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Speaker 5: what color you need them I need. So they gave

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Speaker 5: And you know, Penny was pissed that we wore the

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Speaker 5: so I don't think he ever even wore those ones

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Speaker 2: And it was crazy because he was just like, man,

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Speaker 2: it'd been one thing. You know, I'm saying how it

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Speaker 5: He was he was. They told us too, But I

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Speaker 5: mean it made the shoe blow up, made the shoe iconic. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so what else can you ask for with that happened?

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised, like you didn't go with like Nike full well,

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Speaker 1: I know you with Nike with Jordan's, but like how

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Speaker 1: you deal with those shoes and how the phones blew up,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised.

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Speaker 3: I ain't see, like, man, let's do this.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, it wasn't like it isn't like it

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Speaker 5: was back then how it is now, you know, stuff

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Speaker 5: like that. But Jordans and pun was only two shoes

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Speaker 5: that came at me. Nike didn't really come at me.

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Speaker 5: So damn Pune was giving the most money out at

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Speaker 5: that time, and they, you know, we got Puma, so

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Speaker 5: it was like a million dollars or something it was

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Speaker 5: giving out. And so they sent me a box and

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Speaker 5: I opened the box. I was like, man, I can't.

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Speaker 5: The shoe was like this long and it was just

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Speaker 5: had the Puma thing on the side. It was like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was like the clock. I said, I can't.

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Speaker 5: I said, I told him. I called my agent, I said, Dave,

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Speaker 5: I can't wear this, and he was like, you want

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Speaker 5: to go with I could probably get you. Would you

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Speaker 5: wear Jordan's I said, fucking right. That's when he put

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Speaker 5: Because nobody was in basketball. Yeah, that was basketball stuff

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was gonna be their first Freddy I do no.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, steak and shake after the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, that's when you sign my order. Girl. I'll

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Speaker 1: Then, when I fast forward, I remember telling my mom

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Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, Mike's starting guard. He's gonna be

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Speaker 4: They was like what year was that?

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Speaker 3: He was like you should tell him that, And I

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Speaker 4: I had a cold college saying because that following year,

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Speaker 5: We got our ass kicked by Utah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all lost by Utah, but you had a killer game.

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Speaker 4: I think you had like nah before that, I guess Maryland.

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Speaker 5: I forget what you want, and he was he said,

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Speaker 5: got out of it. But some of our other guys

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Speaker 5: yeah yeah, but they beat the sh out of us.

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Speaker 2: Miller was killing and he probably still somewhere killing somebody

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Speaker 3: It's still probably handed out work.

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Speaker 4: Is that what you knew? Like, yeah, I'm done with

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the game was over there that they

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: They wanted me to leave my freshman year and then

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Speaker 5: And that's why I knew it was time to go.

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Speaker 5: I mean probably think I probably would have went the

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Speaker 3: And then yeah, I was just wondering, Yeah, drafted duck.

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Speaker 3: It was a good right decision. That was yeah smart.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder if you thought you.

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Speaker 5: Go, Like, no, I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna stay. I'm gonna stay, man, get another year

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Speaker 5: and go on killing and see what I gotta do

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Speaker 5: because I was My girl got pregnant that that summer,

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Speaker 2: So damn that's real. And what's crazy is I mean

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Speaker 3: Shout out to my homide Dre when you see is

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Speaker 2: He had got a pair of pees from somebody that

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Speaker 5: Either say the nines or the thirteen's, those are probably

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Speaker 5: But I mean they were all low. So, like the

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Speaker 5: and I was just like, can mak them a low top?

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Speaker 5: So that's when me and Derek Anderson started getting those

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Speaker 5: just played out and it's just like, you know it,

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Speaker 3: That's fire. So y'all really basically started the low twos

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Speaker 4: And Dad said, yeah, talked about that. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So man, it's just I mean, it was good. The

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Speaker 5: can not now, but I mean the players that get

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Speaker 2: Jeff is a crazy snick here. So baby being your

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Speaker 5: It was Adidas when you was.

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Speaker 1: I went to Adidas. I remember when I was we

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Speaker 3: He was like, man, what the fuck? But when I

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Speaker 1: I used to look at his and his claws and

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Speaker 3: He'd be like, he's gonna kill me. Man, I could

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Speaker 1: You could have had anything you want, but I used

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Speaker 1: You'd be like you could have them and be team Jordan.

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Speaker 5: You took careful.

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Speaker 1: P though, like because you was like your PE's was

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Speaker 3: And I was like maybe.

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Speaker 5: He was like no, man.

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Speaker 4: Was like, only got one.

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Speaker 5: I was like ship and the high Top. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they was hard. I was like can I get through?

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Speaker 1: He's like, you had these, it's a lot say something. Jump,

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Speaker 3: I was like they hard.

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Speaker 5: I was like they they pease, but they only gave

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Speaker 5: it's only like two pair of Yeah. I remember Joe

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Speaker 3: Of each now.

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Speaker 1: But you showed me enough love with the Sneakers when

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Speaker 1: you gave me that twenty fifth anniversary Peck. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I came over your crib and he was like, all right, man,

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Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm like what he's like, you can get

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Speaker 3: It was like the all white teams. She's like, no,

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Speaker 3: he was with Nike.

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Speaker 5: Man, he'd have got anything he wanted.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't big enough yet, Na, but it's all of

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Speaker 3: He always showed me a little though.

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Speaker 2: So for show Man, we gotta talk about your career. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: you know something knows you the Arizona. Then you get

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Speaker 2: and you know what I'm saying, cooperc was he was

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Speaker 3: How was that that first preson? Just going from you

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Speaker 5: Again, our ass kicked every night ship. We started out.

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Speaker 5: It was a fifty game season that year. So we

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Speaker 3: Four and four.

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Speaker 5: Guess so we ended up.

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Speaker 3: I'm scared to say, you know what, forty two.

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Speaker 5: So we went through. Damn. We had three double digit

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Speaker 4: Shout out to the Belbie.

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Speaker 5: It was fucked up because, I mean we were in

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Speaker 5: Just at the end, we'll fold.

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Speaker 4: Jerseys was tight.

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Speaker 5: Yeah he wasn't back then though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look was hard.

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Speaker 5: The black ones are nice. Was hard, but the white

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Speaker 5: and the Till we used to be like, man, we

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Speaker 3: Man, listen, I ain't gonna hold you that till grizzy

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Speaker 3: I hate that y'all lost every game. The biggest show,

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Speaker 5: He was a bucket? Yeah, any time you get it,

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Speaker 5: could take you, he could shoot the jumper. He was

441
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,640
Speaker 5: just young, man, Like for you to be that young

442
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 5: and have to lead a team, especially when you're that bad,

443
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,680
Speaker 5: Like I mean, all our all our events were guys

444
00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,520
Speaker 5: from teams that no one like, Like they gave up,

445
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,280
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean it was

446
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 5: tough going into the a team like that and have

447
00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,040
Speaker 5: your superstars being your best players and no one could

448
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,719
Speaker 5: lead the right direction, you know what I mean?

449
00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 4: How do you feel about him and Tim Thomas? Who

450
00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 4: do you think was better?

451
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,439
Speaker 5: I mean I have to go with Sif Man high school.

452
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,280
Speaker 5: Tim Thomas was an animal.

453
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,199
Speaker 4: Stories behind so want to.

454
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 5: But I mean, like just from being being close to

455
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 5: Sharif and watching him play, I'd have to go with

456
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,399
Speaker 5: Street because I mean it was like effortless, you know,

457
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 5: averaging twenty some points is his first year and just

458
00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 5: keeping the same face and you know, I mean, just

459
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 5: just just going buckets.

460
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, he was wrong brief man, Okay, sure, man,

461
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

462
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,200
Speaker 2: I had some tough times with the Grids and real tough,

463
00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 2: and then you got to it when you went to Sacramento.

464
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 5: I won more games than sacrament in my first year

465
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:10,920
Speaker 5: than three years.

466
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 3: And that.

467
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 5: I'm not even I was like, borderline sixty your first

468
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 5: year we won sixty. We won sixty two games my

469
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 5: first year in Sacramento, and I know we didn't win

470
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,159
Speaker 5: that in three years in Vancouver becuse I added up.

471
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 5: We got eight, Like started putting the fust to count.

472
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 5: Fifty eight games in my three years compared to sixty

473
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 5: two in one year in Sacramento.

474
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 3: What was like?

475
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 5: What was that like?

476
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 1: When getting a chance to go to Sacramento with See

477
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 1: Webb and those guys and the team that was on

478
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 1: the verge of already being good, and then you go

479
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 1: there and you make them great?

480
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 5: It was It was like kind of unbelievable because I

481
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 5: knew the rest of peace. Michael Hya, he was the

482
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 5: owner of the team my last year Vancouver. He was like,

483
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 5: you know, we're gonna move to Memphis next year, We're

484
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 5: gonna start fresh. We want to get you a spot

485
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 5: because a lot of own you already know, Jeff, a

486
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 5: lot of owners are ain't gonna come tell you they're

487
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 5: gonna put you wherever the hell they want to put

488
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 5: you in to make them better. So he came to me,

489
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 5: he's like, where would you if we trade you, where

490
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,199
Speaker 5: would you want to go? He's like, give me your

491
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 5: top five places. So I gave him, Like you know,

492
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 5: I gave Phoenix because I'm from here. I gave Sacramento.

493
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 5: I might even give him Indiana and tell you truth,

494
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,920
Speaker 5: because I mean they was back then. They was kind

495
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 5: of like to one of the top teams. So I

496
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 5: wanted to go in to be on a good team.

497
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 5: And he's like, well, where's the number one team you

498
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 5: want to go? And I told him I said Sacramento.

499
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 5: And so I didn't hear nothing about it again until

500
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 5: I got traded. So I was out. I was at

501
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 5: the gyms like midnight and I'm working out. So my

502
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 5: brother's like, you know, dang dings to everybody, No dang.

503
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 5: So he get a call they just traded your brother Sacramento.

504
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 5: So he's like, they just traded your sacrament said well shit,

505
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,239
Speaker 5: that wouldn't I would have heard about. So I went

506
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 5: to my car. You know, got the Vancouver number, you

507
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,400
Speaker 5: got the Sacramand number. Like something happened. And so going there,

508
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 5: I didn't know how the fans would take me in,

509
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 5: how the team would take me in, replacing you know,

510
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,680
Speaker 5: Jay Will and I mean they made me feel like

511
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 5: I was there my whole my whole career. Man. That's

512
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 5: it just made the so easy just to go in

513
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 5: there and play and just be accepted and just made

514
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 5: it easy for me.

515
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: And what's so crazy, Like the team that y'all had

516
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 2: would have been so good in today's are y'all kind

517
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: of like set the trend for it, like y'all change,

518
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: like the way that they play, especially adding you y'all

519
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: would have went crazy in this I mean I went

520
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 2: crazy in that era too, But y'all would have been

521
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 2: so good now, especially with the position because I think

522
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 2: Chris Webbits was one of the most underrated players.

523
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 5: Ever is probably one of the best superstars I played with,

524
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 5: probably him, him and Mellow, iould say, but just going

525
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 5: there the thing that the thing Webb held himself accountable,

526
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 5: So that kind of trickled down that everybody that what

527
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 5: made it so good to where it wasn't pointing fingers

528
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,679
Speaker 5: at anybody and doing that. But he always he fucked up.

529
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 5: He was I was like, shit, that's not bad. I'm

530
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 5: gonna get it right, and that kind of opened the thing. Well,

531
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 5: you know what web could say, it I could say,

532
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, So that's kind of trickled

533
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 5: down made it so good. Blotti was I think Vadi

534
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 5: was the leader on that team. I kind of going

535
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 5: to Atlanta. I kind of brought Vloody style to Atlanta.

536
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 5: You know, I come and you know, beggame about the

537
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 5: table or when we land where we're gonna eat. We're

538
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 5: gonna go stop and eat it somewhere. Everybody coming, you

539
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So that's what kind of made us,

540
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 5: you know, feel comfortable with each other on the court.

541
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 5: You gotta be you gotta be friends off the court,

542
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 5: man in order to be a good team.

543
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's they should hear that. We part of

544
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

545
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: Been around this week, heard them from a couple players

546
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: said like that, real chemistry is.

547
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: Off the court. If you can get on off the court,

548
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: if I ain't rocking, it's evident when when she gets

549
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: real over the court.

550
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 5: For sure.

551
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: I was one of the most unselfish teams that I

552
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 2: saw pass that had two leap passing big.

553
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 4: That was crazy. Then I had my most underrated six man,

554
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 4: Bobby Jack that was my guy on to live.

555
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 5: He gets that thing up, but he was looking to

556
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 5: do nothing else. Get that fu up, bro my god too,

557
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 5: he shoot that bitch.

558
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,439
Speaker 1: But all the players actually had though, Like Geral Wallace

559
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: on the bench, you got he You had all these

560
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: guys you played with Insac.

561
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 5: Jared was nineteen at the time too, Damn he just

562
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 5: came from high school. But I mean, it was just

563
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 5: like everybody was okay with whoever score, as long as

564
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 5: he was winning. It wasn't like I've been on teams

565
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 5: were like if you don't if I don't get my points,

566
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be on the plane shitty, you know what

567
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 5: I mean. And there was never a time when that

568
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 5: happened in Sacramento. Not one time.

569
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 4: Paigeon was putting that my fuck up there. Yeah.

570
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 5: Remember he's six ten too, Soarli is too. He was sixteen.

571
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: It was nice clip elite. He was super nice. But

572
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 3: people don't know how tall he is.

573
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 5: Yeah he was about six eight.

574
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he he was the reason why that Magic

575
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: team was so good. People talking like people sleep him.

576
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 2: Paying a six eight point guard for the team changed

577
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: that whole situation with them.

578
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 5: He's a funny motherfucker too, man, understand he says, he said.

579
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 3: Now you speak about your like your way of leading.

580
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: Like when I first got in the league, like I

581
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: took everything so serious, like for the game, I was like,

582
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 1: I want to play like we had preseason games. I'm

583
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: all serious and I'll never forget our first preseason game.

584
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: Wood is talking and you take a piece of paper and.

585
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: You like boom and it hit Wood And I'm like,

586
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 3: I never forget.

587
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: Because I was so like listening to what was saying,

588
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: like like I'm in college, like ready to run through

589
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: a wall.

590
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: He like, let's go out there and play good. You

591
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: like piece of paper. I was like, I was like,

592
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: we got it, man. He was like Mike, you know

593
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 3: how it was with you. They was like brothers.

594
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 5: Probably one of my favorite coaches. So look at this

595
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 5: story with Woody. Right, So I'd always go into Woody's office.

596
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 5: I don't know if you were there yet. Were you there?

597
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 5: We almost spot somebody in the locker room. Look, he

598
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 5: pulls me in and pulls that's crazy. He pulls me

599
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 5: in the office like before before the shooting around. He's like, hey,

600
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 5: you think I should start go try to start a

601
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 5: fight with somebody and there's a light of fire on

602
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 5: their ass. I'm like, you gonna make sure you picked

603
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 5: the right out there. I don't have to get your ass.

604
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 5: He comes in there. I think he started going that mom. Yeah,

605
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 5: so he started so he started talking ship, but then

606
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 5: he thinking his coach is going to hold him back.

607
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 5: But Moe got up out of see they had to

608
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 5: hold mo back and then and was about to whoop

609
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 5: his ass, and then he took me. We got done.

610
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 5: He went in the back in the office. He's like,

611
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 5: that was good right there to Ship. You're lucky motherfucking

612
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 5: back because he was about to fuck you up.

613
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 4: The way you bro.

614
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 5: Was easy to MoU was easy to get the most here.

615
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 5: That's why were you there when they made him grows

616
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 5: hair out until it comes to my last year.

617
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 3: Oh that would have been crying that bullshit.

618
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 5: So we got some old hair, you know, you see

619
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 5: more been a ball since like eighty seven. Moa was

620
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 5: my guy up. So so we get there, so we

621
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 5: put it get we put it back together and me

622
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 5: Joe and Smooth will give you ten thousand dollars for

623
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 5: every month you grow your hair. So he comes out

624
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 5: this ship about that high and so nappy ship. So

625
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 5: we like he growned it though. You know what I

626
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 5: mean like we didn't think it could grow. So remember

627
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 5: we were in Phoenix before they traded me. So was

628
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 5: in walk through. I was saying, I was like, today's

629
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 5: the trade deadline. If anybody owe anybody money, but get

630
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 5: that ship today because we don't know who's gonna be

631
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 5: here tomorrow. They traded him. He's got traded with me

632
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 5: to Washington, and so I asked him. I asked him,

633
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 5: like a month ago, then, did anybody pay you? He said, ship,

634
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 5: you don't want to pay me. They didn't give you.

635
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 5: He can grew share out for nothing, but I'm one

636
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 5: that paid him. Yoh.

637
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: He used to mess with Mo so much. They used

638
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: to play this ru UFC game before practice all the time.

639
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: They would whoop his every day. I'll be coming in,

640
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: I'll be listening to him.

641
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: Best with him every day, like.

642
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 5: Mo fucking suck. Remember the shoes so he used to

643
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 5: wear this trying. I hate working with my God. Yeah,

644
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 5: I love about but he he coming with trunners, remember

645
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 5: the Jordan trunners. Trunners. Damn, come on, man, you got

646
00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 5: socks something?

647
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: No shows.

648
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: I'm like, come on, man, you gotta put something on man.

649
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 3: Them just take over.

650
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 5: Now play NBA games in there.

651
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: I love Mo, but the last thing about because I

652
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: love he was cool. He was super cool. But they

653
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: hung his outfit up.

654
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: What they hung it up in the locker room, Bro,

655
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: from the top of the ceiling, Bro with the pain

656
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: shirt like he hung it up.

657
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: Bro.

658
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 3: MO came in from shooting. Oh my god, I lost it. Bro.

659
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 3: He was so mad and he had these true religion.

660
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 5: Ya returned.

661
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Was so funny, Yo, has your bro like I hang

662
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: over outfit up? Look at this ship and they just

663
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: had it hanging terrible my fun but that ship was

664
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: so funny.

665
00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 2: Bro.

666
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: That was about rookie year. I couldn't believe. It's the NBA. Bro,

667
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 3: what's going on?

668
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 5: You gotta have fun, man, You with each other for

669
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 5: nine months. You gotta make the best of every situation

670
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 5: you're with. You're with the guys, where you're with your family,

671
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 5: So you gotta have fun, man.

672
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 4: For sure.

673
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: Man, I got to ask about this because obviously I'm

674
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: tackinging on teams. Was crazy when y'all like heard of

675
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: Kyle Rien that this ship was real with the Tim

676
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: Donahue stuff, Like, how was that reaction.

677
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 5: Amongst y'all because we knew that before he came out.

678
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: Damn it was.

679
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a funny situation because Chucky Brown. You

680
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 5: know Chucky Brown's fourteen seasons. You know, I'm in my

681
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: I'm in my fourth. Man, I'm talking cash ship in La.

682
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 5: So like the Mulus, the best owners ever, like they

683
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 5: put you at movie premieers, they put you at these,

684
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 5: they put you at this and in order to be

685
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 5: seen and stuff. So I was at movie premiers and

686
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 5: the red carpet talking shit, sh it's over with. Ain't

687
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 5: nothing they could do them, Ain't nothing. They can't stop

688
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 5: us on the radio talking ship. So I mean, Chuck

689
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 5: you Brown pulled me so they might. You know, if

690
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 5: they're bringing a certain crew, it's gonna go a certain way.

691
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 5: It was like, man, bullshit, Man, ain't no way. We're

692
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 5: up twenty points, server game. Ain't nothing even if they

693
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 5: do it and can stop. And so just watching that, man,

694
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: just seeing it looking back now, that shit makes me sick, man,

695
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 5: because I think we could. That could have been our

696
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 5: championship for damn sure. And so going and playing New Jersey,

697
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 5: they swept New Jersey. I think we beat the shit

698
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 5: out of New Jersey that year too. I think we

699
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 5: being a bout fifty I think one time going to

700
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: New Jersey. But it was just just sad to see.

701
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 5: I mean, we had that we kind of shipped the

702
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 5: bad Game seven, but I really don't think it should

703
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 5: have got to Game seven.

704
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: I shouldn't sure, like you said, you look back at

705
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: especially the team I had was so crazy and then

706
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: for that to come out, and then for them like

707
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: to Africa comes out, y'all know, and it's publicized, but

708
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: then for people like to romanticize about it, just like

709
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: that's so crazy that, like, especially like y'all worked so

710
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: hard for moments and play our ass off to beat

711
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 2: them situations. We know how many things have to fall

712
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: in the line perfectly to win the championship is like

713
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: to play your ass off and to have thats just like.

714
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 5: What the still makes me sick man, Like this, even

715
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 5: like Robert Horry shot, like I watched the highlights and

716
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: still watch the ship and I'll cut it off before

717
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 5: that before that going. I remember that ship like it

718
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 5: was yesterday, watching that month for boom walking in the

719
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 5: locker room, Damn, we gotta go one more.

720
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: That broke everybody heart.

721
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 5: Man.

722
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: I think the whole world was pulling for you off.

723
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 5: Every getting that they had our champagne already in the

724
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: locker room. They have to put all that ship back, Damn.

725
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: I know all the time. Yeah, I think you just

726
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 4: had a moment of silence.

727
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: There because I'm thinking about this, watching thinking about the champagne.

728
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember we won, we had that champ.

729
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 5: That got you one. That's all. That's all that, man.

730
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 5: You get to go home, take one home. Man, That's

731
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 5: what That's what it's about.

732
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: Bro.

733
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 5: You could say. And I made people say they want

734
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 5: NBA Championship for congratulations on that I finally got in one.

735
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 3: I was so fie something.

736
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 5: It's good man, y'all deserve it, man, I.

737
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: Appreciate it for sure. I got to ask, man, what

738
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: is your favorite city that you played in favor? What

739
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 2: favorite city?

740
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 5: I like playing home and I like being in Phoenix

741
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 5: just because I get to see my family, I got

742
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,239
Speaker 5: to stay at home. I always love coming back home

743
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 5: as fifty people at the game, one hundred people at

744
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: the game, you know, I mean just going and just

745
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 5: playing in front of your family and friends. I love

746
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 5: coming back home.

747
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: When you leave Sacramento, you come to Atlanta, and what's

748
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: that like? Because that first year y'all in Atlanta, well

749
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: maybe your second year or whatever you y'all played the

750
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: Celtics in.

751
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: The playoffs, was the first year I think, Yeah, y'all

752
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: got it cracking. It was.

753
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 5: I mean it was different because, like I said, no

754
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 5: one really I don't think me and Joe were only

755
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 5: two people that ever been in the playoffs, and so

756
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 5: for to come there and have the city on fire

757
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 5: like that and take them to seven, I mean, we

758
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 5: got our ass beat every time in Boston, but I

759
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 5: mean we we had that shit on fire in It

760
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: was just I think it had to do I'm not

761
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 5: saying it was all me, but I think it had

762
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: to do it with a lot of just bringing the

763
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 5: guys together and just hanging out and just you know,

764
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 5: trusting people and ship like that. So I mean just

765
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 5: being a c like that and putting that on fire.

766
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: It was fun, man, because I came to next year

767
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: and the buzz was still there. When I got drafted.

768
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 3: It was like, as I had the.

769
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: Fight video with kg S, it was just like, yeah,

770
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: he had the rocky, rocky stuff going.

771
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: It was just like a buzz in the city and

772
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: I was like, see.

773
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 5: You got to see it. You didn't get to see

774
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 5: it when it was really bad, because it used to

775
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 5: be really bad ten years before they made the playoffs.

776
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I only seen the good.

777
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 4: Steven Jackson, it was wicked. It was wicked Jersey.

778
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nasty.

779
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: I only seen the good. So but when I got there,

780
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: Vivian and they was it was rolling. I came into

781
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: a winning team.

782
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: So you're there with Flip.

783
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: Nah wasn't there, but you you probably don't remember. He

784
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: had just left and so you know how smooth is.

785
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: He Like you took a C lost spot and you

786
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 3: took Flip spot. And I'm like, I don't even know

787
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 3: who they are.

788
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, A was young. I think it was

789
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 5: like a C like second year.

790
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm like, He's like, you took the spot.

791
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna be at you because we played them in

792
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: the preseason and Flip made me fall was cold.

793
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 5: Motherfucker man.

794
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: A lot of people find he hit me with a

795
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: snatch back and I feel I looked at the bench.

796
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: Joe Smith was like this, I looked at Ben looking.

797
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 5: That's why you can't pay defense like that, man, That's what.

798
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: The shot he made me so big, Josh stand up

799
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: point that.

800
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, that's a crazy I like the story that

801
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: you told about here shooting threes to he he wasn't

802
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 5: about it. And my boy used to boots Smooth. I

803
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 5: was like, he turned around like, Smooth, it's the home fans.

804
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 5: He would just shoot it just because the show them.

805
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 5: Shut the fuck up. Yeah, you know what I mean.

806
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: Smooth was so you remember the bet you made with him? Man,

807
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: you remember ship you got to break it up. You

808
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: bet him like maybe like five or ten thousand dollars

809
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: that he can shoot. He couldn't shoot more than ten

810
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: threes that year and he would shoot all right in

811
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: front of the three point. But he had it was

812
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: like his best year. He almost should have made the

813
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: All Star team. It was my first year and he

814
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: would not shoot threes. He was just pump fake, take

815
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: a step in. He was making them and he was

816
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: like he would not shoot he like one. I was like, yeah,

817
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: but it worked. I'm like, damn Bibby really playing like man.

818
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: He figured like he figures Smooth.

819
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: Out like that.

820
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: He's the most athletic player I play with and that

821
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 5: I've seen that motherfucker do whatever you want if you

822
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 5: get in the open court so I try to just

823
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: you try to get get him in open court to

824
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 5: give him the ball to where he does he's not

825
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 5: standing in the spotting up. He was a monster in

826
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 5: the in the in the open court man.

827
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: He was one of the smartest players I played with.

828
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: He Todd never forget. He told me you want to shoot.

829
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 5: The ball team. I was like yeah.

830
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 3: He's like, when you get in, just go stand right

831
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 3: next to Joe.

832
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 5: And I was like why.

833
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: He's like, they gonna double team, They're gonna pass it

834
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: to you. You're gonna be wild. He's at work every time,

835
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: the bitch crying Joe.

836
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 5: Like cut through, smooth, smooth, like go ahead, smooth and

837
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 5: smooth in the way. So he getting shot. You know what,

838
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 5: We're there. You were there when we used to play

839
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 5: that game after durn practice.

840
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, a shooting game.

841
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 5: No shoot, We had this fucked up game that remember

842
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 5: you got pissed this game right, So like it was

843
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 5: like five hundred dollars. So if it touched three hands,

844
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 5: your fifteen yea, the person that your thousands of Jeff

845
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 5: and five hundred. So we'll be running play all your

846
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 5: run you're running offense. Boom boom, someone shoots a jumper,

847
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,959
Speaker 5: they start will start sprinting that. So like if it missed,

848
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 5: I tip the Jeff different, tip back to me and

849
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 5: I'll make it. You owe me a thousand, you owe

850
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: him five hundred. So we were shooting that like during

851
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: we like running.

852
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 3: Plays practice just like I can't take it serious.

853
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 5: Like I mean every every shot, Muffle was shooting and

854
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 5: just take off full speed and just person up where

855
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 5: they can't tap it. So when the ball hits the ground,

856
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 5: it's over with. So remember LD was like, man, do

857
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 5: that ship after So we said, like after the press

858
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 5: would be like five or six of us we get.

859
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: We shoot five shots. You can't move until you make

860
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 5: the three. So if you make if you make off five,

861
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 5: you don't know money. But if you if you miss

862
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 5: and you fuck them up and they don't make it

863
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 5: or they make it, you gotta you gotta old than

864
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 5: the money man.

865
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: They start doing that ship for anything though, like one fuck,

866
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: just be shooting by itself, come out of nowhere.

867
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 3: I would even shoot a jumper in practice. He don't count,

868
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 3: he don't count.

869
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you please, crazy playing tipsy, serious

870
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: as hell.

871
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: This is in the playoffs. All type of ship we

872
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: have fun.

873
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 5: You gotta have fun.

874
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 6: Man.

875
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 5: We had fun out there was great.

876
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 3: Man. We gotta ask you know what I'm saying. So

877
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 3: you was young Nachos man, how was he as a rookie?

878
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 5: Man? He was just I mean you could tell that

879
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 5: he was like kind of under the under the bright

880
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 5: lights to where he listened to anything he said because

881
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 5: like everything they're telling him, like you couldn't tell you couldn't.

882
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 5: I didn't take anything what he said serious, you know

883
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 5: what I mean. But he like coming in he would

884
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 5: have to he had to listen, you know what I mean.

885
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 5: Like he's his mindset was like I gotta do what

886
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 5: I gotta do to get some playing time. So he

887
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 5: was going to try to stay in the right. That's

888
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 5: why they got Jordan Crawford out there because they didn't

889
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 5: want him, Jordan to corrupt. Yeah, they put Jordan the

890
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 5: trade with me, me, the fucking the fucking Wizards trying

891
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 5: to Yeah, because they don't want Jeff to be corrupted.

892
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: Man.

893
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: But I mean, but Jeff, Jeff was quiet. I mean,

894
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 5: he played his role. He wanted to like he wanted to.

895
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 5: I don't wanna say fit in. But as far as

896
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 5: just like being a rookie man being a rookie eyes

897
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 5: wide open. You're playing against superstars that you watch, been

898
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 5: watching on TV for years, and I mean, like I could,

899
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 5: I knew he was gonna be something special when the

900
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 5: time came, you know what I mean. Just I mean

901
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 5: it was good that I think to come from the

902
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 5: comfort a team that was winning, you know, and have

903
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 5: some good bets for him to getting ready for that

904
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 5: because you get the shitty team. Motherfuckers ain't gonna help you.

905
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 5: You go like a sucked up team. You're gonna be sitting,

906
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: You're gonna be by yourself all night. You know what

907
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 5: I mean. I would see you tomorrow and walking in

908
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 5: right before practice starts and ain't gonna be it ain't

909
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 5: gonna be. That's how it's gonna be.

910
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, when he was in your prime, That's what I

911
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 4: want to ask you, Like, who was one of your

912
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: toughest matchups that you.

913
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 5: Knew you had to Ain't no over there gonna say, Marburry, Marburry.

914
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 5: I mean you'd like, I was never the defensive player

915
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 5: anyway I heard. So my main thing is like, shit,

916
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 5: you're gonna I would always go and I'm gonna say

917
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 5: the weakest player. But the guy that's really not gonna

918
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 5: get the most shots, Doug Christie, you need me guarding them.

919
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 5: Bobby Jackson with Bobby Jackson on. So, I mean the

920
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 5: main thing, like my thing was with Marburry, because Marbury,

921
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 5: he's gonna get thirty shots. He's strong, he's quick, he's fast,

922
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 5: and he was just I mean, he's like he's the

923
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 5: type of guy that, like when you go against the

924
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 5: point guard. His mindset was like, Okay, these are the

925
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 5: guys that they have trying to come up against him,

926
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 5: gonna go outre and try to bust his ass. He

927
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 5: had that mentality like for.

928
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 4: Real, Yeah that was a light twenty and eight guarantee

929
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 4: of life.

930
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 3: So yeah, tough.

931
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 4: He don't get spoken enough.

932
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 5: He almost made me tear my knee. Shit. He was

933
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 5: in Phoenix and he I kind of closed out to

934
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 5: him half aass, closed out and I think, okay, just

935
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 5: shoot it. So I kind of like and he kind

936
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 5: of hit me with a So I was like I

937
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 5: wanted to retreat, and I just like kind of sat down.

938
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 5: I was like dam and I got up and I

939
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 5: was I played the rest of the game, but by

940
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 5: trying the end of the game, my legs started like

941
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 5: it started cramping. I'm like, and that ship was like

942
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 5: this big damn. I said, man, please check make sure

943
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 5: and they I mean it wasn't torn, it was it

944
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 5: was spring, but that ship like this, that's on the

945
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 5: first time anybody shook me like that. I was trying

946
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 5: to let him shoot, but then I was gonna at

947
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 5: least try to, you know, kind of body him up

948
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 5: if you I can't just give him straight line to

949
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 5: the basket for almost killed me.

950
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 4: I know Memphis was, I mean, Vancouver so shitty, But

951
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 4: do you have a memorable game career or anything from

952
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: Vancouver that you remember, Like.

953
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 5: I remember playing my first game. The thing I remember.

954
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 5: It was a preseason game. We played the Blazers, so

955
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 5: I mean everybody on their team was six eight or

956
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 5: tall except the start of my and I remember my

957
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 5: first game and I turned around. They started there fucking

958
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 5: full court pressing me and like Scottie Pippen, she Wallace

959
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 5: fucking trapping me. So then fort like from the start, bro,

960
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 5: I can remember that like it was yesterday. I was like, damn,

961
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 5: if this ship gonna be like this, I don't know

962
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: if I want I don't think I want to play

963
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 5: no like six eight six night there. I mean, their

964
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 5: team was big, so it was like coming to trap,

965
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, damn man. It was just like once I

966
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 5: got out there, I was okay, but there's no really.

967
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 5: I mean, I had a lot of assists when I

968
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 5: was in in Vancouver, but that's the main thing I

969
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 5: played with my dude, my mood out though, roof, and

970
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 5: all I did was just standing out there and pass him.

971
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 5: He's shot. So I got I got my highest I

972
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 5: let the I was in the top ten and assists

973
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 5: for three years out there, I think.

974
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: So you have some good memories, nigga. It wasn't always sorry.

975
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 3: You got buckets and drafted.

976
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 5: I said, I get drafted was a good memory, you know.

977
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 5: And I got a story on that too. I got it.

978
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: So it was between me and Oliver Candy to get

979
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 5: drafted number one. So I got super agent David Falk,

980
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 5: and you know, he's like, yeah, they're gonna they're gonna

981
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 5: wait till the day of the draft to figure out

982
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 5: what they're gonna pick. So the drafts in Vancouver, and

983
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 5: you know when you said at the table, you're there,

984
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 5: so like he comes back here, like they're gonna take

985
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 5: Olliver Candy one. Grizzly's gonna take you to like. But

986
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just been there's nothing about the city.

987
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 5: I was just. I was nineteen, I just turned twenty.

988
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 5: I got a family. I don't want to move to Canada, man,

989
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 5: in a different country. So I go up to the

990
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 5: I go up to the meeting rooms. I'm with the

991
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 5: GM and the co coach and my agent there, and

992
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 5: he was like, I remember looking out the window, man,

993
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 5: it's I'm from Arizona. Y'all see how it is here.

994
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 5: We get seventy seven days in a row over one

995
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 5: hundred degrees, so we don't see no rain. So I'm

996
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 5: looking out the window and it's raining, it's dark and

997
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 5: it's noon. I'm like, man just telling me. I said, look,

998
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 5: I don't want to play here. That says nothing against

999
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 5: you guys, nonhe against the city, the fans, the team.

1000
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 5: I just I told him the same thing. I'm young,

1001
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,399
Speaker 5: I want to be We're gonna pick you anyway, I said,

1002
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 5: damn shift team. Minutes later, I was walking around the

1003
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 5: thing in the Vancouver. Man, it was three years of ship.

1004
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 4: You made it through those day up there, bro. You

1005
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 4: went to the joint for a little bit, right, all right?

1006
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? What camp? You though, like

1007
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 4: wanting to work on your game though, because it seemed

1008
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 4: like that you was depressed out there. Now, I wouldn't

1009
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: say depressed, but down.

1010
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: I mean, I just I mean because when we weren't

1011
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 5: like getting our ass kicked like that. I've always worked,

1012
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 5: you know, ever since I got to When I got

1013
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 5: to U of A, I would work my ass off

1014
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 5: and was like when I got to the league, I

1015
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 5: even worked harder. So my main thing was just like

1016
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 5: just being on top of your game, and you know,

1017
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 5: things were trying for good. And the first pick was

1018
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 5: the Clippers. You know back then it was a that

1019
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 5: was a fucked up situation, like the organization. I think

1020
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 5: everything happens for a reason, man. So I mean, like

1021
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 5: I said, Michael Heise, trade me the sacrament of Kings

1022
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 5: without him, who knows what happened?

1023
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 3: Legend was built for sure?

1024
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: For sure, I gotta ask you, I know, obviously still

1025
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: tuning the game on your coaching and staying on tune

1026
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 2: with it.

1027
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: What is you know some of the young players are

1028
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 3: mind you yourself?

1029
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: I like you know that some people that game I

1030
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 5: don't know if they remind me on a subbingd I like,

1031
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 5: I like Dame, I like something I like step I

1032
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 5: love step like Steph's mindset in just the way that

1033
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 5: he plays in the shots and the best shooter to

1034
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 5: ever played a game. I remember all this ship once

1035
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: I leave here. But I mean, I mean, just I

1036
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 5: watched basketball. I like to see just guy, it's a

1037
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 5: different game now, Like it's a lot of dripple handoffs

1038
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, but a lot of three point shooting.

1039
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 5: But my main guy, Like, if I had to pick

1040
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 5: one guy that like, I'm gonna go.

1041
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 3: At the end, I'm not to say Dame, Yeah yeah,

1042
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: dang bro.

1043
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 2: And we talked to Dame earlier and it's like he

1044
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: don't get enough just do he does? He does, don't

1045
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: get enough just and he does it. He does it

1046
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: at the right time of games, you know, like a

1047
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: lot of game winners and stuff like that.

1048
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 5: But he stopped up.

1049
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: That's one thing that you like you did too. You

1050
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: hit big tim shots, like in the clutch. You always

1051
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: showed up. Even when you was in Atlanta. I remember

1052
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: we used to run that out of bounds player. I

1053
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: run it for my high school team. Used to I

1054
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: was running the big three. What do he has some

1055
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: good players, but I just remember you to make big

1056
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: shots off there. You set the backscreen, get the ball,

1057
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: come off, one dribble, pull up.

1058
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 5: Same. My thing is strong, Mine is a strong thing man.

1059
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 5: So I always like I've always had a strong mind.

1060
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 5: I could be playing golf and it'd be down forty

1061
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 5: strokes on the whole eighteen. I still think I've got

1062
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 5: a chance to win.

1063
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: He don't.

1064
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: Come back of the site.

1065
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 5: I feel I put enough work in, Like I've worked

1066
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 5: hard enough on my shots. Every shot I took I

1067
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 5: thought was going there. And so I mean it's just

1068
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 5: just putting in the time.

1069
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: That my fucker pick and roll with you. And see

1070
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: Web used to be so healy too.

1071
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 5: What killed him was Webb's jumper like Web, Like I said,

1072
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 5: I don't even think Web gets enough credit that he

1073
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 5: should be getting. In fact, I mean he's probably the

1074
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 5: best big man passer probably ever played the game. Top

1075
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 5: three for sure, and I mean he had the soft hands.

1076
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 5: He catch any thing you throw, the knock down, the

1077
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 5: jump shot, and the main thing with him was that

1078
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 5: he held himself accountable. That's what made him the top

1079
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: top player that I played with, Yeah, because he used

1080
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 5: to set you up for all kind of open He

1081
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 5: was still end up with twenty eight. It was in

1082
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 5: the past, but he still want to score twenty eight

1083
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 5: points for sure.

1084
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,439
Speaker 1: You play with some cold players, like you just said,

1085
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: see you Webb underrated, should be one of the top

1086
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: power forwards all time. But like you played with Mellow,

1087
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: you play with Joe Johnson. I always go back and

1088
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: forth and say who was the better isolation player ship,

1089
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: and I always picked Joe. I think Joe was the

1090
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: best isolation player I ever seen.

1091
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: I mean, it's tough. They both I think they are

1092
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 5: both two different types. Joe kind of used his strength more, yeah,

1093
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 5: and uh and Melow was more use his height to

1094
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 5: where like he'll shoot over you or step back or

1095
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 5: something like that. Wonderable pullups. But I mean, Ship, that's hard.

1096
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 5: That's a hard decision to make.

1097
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 4: Eight.

1098
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 3: He put you in the ring, right, Yeah, he played

1099
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 3: with them up close. That's a good question, bro, That's.

1100
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 5: Tough though, A good question I don't answer.

1101
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 4: On I'm taking Mellow just because to me, well, y'all

1102
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 4: niggas was in the league. What I'm saying, I just

1103
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 4: feel like Mellow had that inside game too, but Joe

1104
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 4: did had that postworker like Melo though.

1105
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 5: Joe Scott.

1106
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 6: One to hand jumper, mellowing that body and you, God

1107
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 6: damn you, I've seen even personal that he's built like

1108
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 6: Lebron James.

1109
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 5: That's a bit you can't lose either way. I think

1110
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 5: neither one of them get the justice that they deserve.

1111
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 2: They both cold speaking Lebron use the part of that

1112
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: I'm saying show that he does seem how was that

1113
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 2: it was different?

1114
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: Man?

1115
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 5: What something I wasn't used to it, you know what

1116
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 5: I mean? Like as far as I wasn't playing that

1117
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 5: much anywhere, I was playing about twelve minutes a game,

1118
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 5: and just it was different. Man, There's nothing like I

1119
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 5: ever been in before, as far as like body fat

1120
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 5: testsing every week if you like, if you don't make

1121
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 5: the body fat tests, you gotta you gotta do extra cardo,

1122
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 5: you gotta weigh yourself every week. No, I had to

1123
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 5: pay for one of my jerseys to take my jersey home.

1124
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 5: I had to pay for a jersey there. I think

1125
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 5: they keep all of them. I don't know what they

1126
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 5: keep them for, but it was hard to get some

1127
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 5: stuff out of there, and it was just different. I

1128
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 5: mean it was it was something different, that pat own

1129
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 5: ship that he does and but something I wasn't used to.

1130
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 5: It wasn't my best years or best time there, but

1131
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 5: like I said, I was playing a little bit of

1132
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 5: the game in my mind. Stting that started, My mind

1133
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 5: started to go like maybe it's time for me to

1134
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 5: be done, you know, you know all that.

1135
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with all the media circus that came with

1136
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 2: being on that team, Like you said, you transition in

1137
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 2: your career. Can imagine that's a lot to deal with

1138
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 2: because that's like even now a lot of people don't

1139
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: want to deal with the Lakers because they don't want

1140
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 2: to deal with come the playing with Lebron. I can

1141
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: imagine that exception that y'all was getting hate. Everybody hated

1142
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: you all at that time.

1143
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 5: It was it was it was it was crazy man,

1144
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 5: because like every like the hot hotels, I mean thousands

1145
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 5: people outside the hotels just waiting to get autographs and

1146
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 5: just everywhere you go.

1147
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: And it was different. It was differently he was in

1148
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 4: the rock start it comes up the heat on us. Yeah,

1149
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 4: that was crazy. Testing for body is crazy ship. I

1150
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 4: couldn't I couldn't played for the heat.

1151
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's crazy, like testing body talking about

1152
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 1: wait and stuff. Bro, you used to do perfect push

1153
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: ups in the middle of practice.

1154
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 5: You told you told Lou I didn't work out man,

1155
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 5: push ups, Bro. Way you've seen our weight Bro, it

1156
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 5: was it was upstairs.

1157
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: Have you been to London.

1158
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 5: I've been to Like it's nice.

1159
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: What they got a whole new facility off in and nowhere.

1160
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: It's a it's in Brookhaven. Man, it's unbelievable, really unbelievable.

1161
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: But the weight room you're talking about, it was terrible.

1162
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 5: Do push ups, bro.

1163
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 3: He would be in the middle, he had these perfect

1164
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 3: push ups. He'll look to the sidelight, but get in there.

1165
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 3: He could do a perfect push up. I'm like, this

1166
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: could not be the NBA.

1167
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 4: Bro.

1168
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 6: My way out.

1169
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get you ready.

1170
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm like doing perfect push ups.

1171
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 6: Practice would once you started hitting the weight room heavy though,

1172
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 6: because you were not always lifted.

1173
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 5: But they, like when I was in Sacramento, they kind

1174
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 5: of frowned upon lifting. So when I was a Sacramento

1175
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 5: I came back one year and they're like, Mike, I

1176
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 5: can't keep lifting like that. You look like a linebackers.

1177
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 5: I'm like, see what you want to do is sit

1178
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 5: at home and do nothing.

1179
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: I got I'm I left Cardio, Mike.

1180
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 5: No, hell, I got hurt.

1181
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 4: I got hurt twice.

1182
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 5: I'll never do Cardio again. I got hurt twice. And

1183
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 5: they me on the bike and on the armed cycle

1184
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 5: and on the thing for like twelve weeks straight. Bro,

1185
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 5: I'll say you never again. I'm not going that ship

1186
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 5: ever again.

1187
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 6: Because Bro used to talk about you, like used to

1188
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 6: be on that ship. Hell know he came here for

1189
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 6: the Big three ship. Boy, he should see by day. Bro,

1190
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 6: he was strong. You were strong as hell and lone.

1191
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 6: I used to be like because when I first met you,

1192
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 6: I'm thinking of Mike.

1193
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: Baby. You know I've seen man Sacramento. I walked up

1194
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 3: to him like, damn twenty I was.

1195
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 5: I was too five.

1196
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 3: You had an IG filter on Twitter on the TV.

1197
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 5: What yeah, I know what they put on there. Bro.

1198
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 3: I was ninety five, Bro, like two hundred and five.

1199
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 5: I was. I was two five when I got to

1200
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 5: New York.

1201
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 3: Bro, all it might just be chesting.

1202
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: Your chest was out to here, like I'm like this, dude,

1203
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, baby, man, you could guard all big dudes.

1204
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: He would tell Joe take the point guard. He'd be

1205
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: guard somebody six. They trying to post.

1206
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 5: I'm like about the post hill they got outside weren't working.

1207
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 3: He was so strong, Bro, I was like, man, he

1208
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 3: is too strong.

1209
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't remember you like that and sex and

1210
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,760
Speaker 4: when you start hitting hiding the way, said Mike, look.

1211
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 5: Like they like I come in to practice, do one bench,

1212
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 5: one pull down, one leg, running back and you're done.

1213
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 3: That wasn't enough.

1214
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 5: Don't know though, but you look.

1215
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie, bro, and I ain't staring at

1216
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 4: you like that. But you don't look as crazy as

1217
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 4: what this nigga made you said, because I was played

1218
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 4: because I wasn't he was. I was looking for that

1219
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 4: thing on your neck.

1220
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 3: I seen him.

1221
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm used to be like hooping years ago for a

1222
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: long time. So when I said, God was like a wrestler.

1223
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: But now you, like you said, you don't look crazy,

1224
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: like you work out a lot.

1225
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 3: Because I don't remember you liked that. On two K two, Bro, I.

1226
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 5: Think that they keep putting me into two K shoes

1227
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 5: and I wanted to fucking first joring to get two ks. Man,

1228
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 5: I get pissed coming in two k's.

1229
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: Man, you get there right, get that right, many got

1230
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 3: the Trumphy rooms. Right. You know what I'm saying, You know,

1231
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: the face put me or something. Man shout out to Marcus. Yeah,

1232
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 3: for sure. We gotta ask, man, what's your favorite Jordans

1233
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 3: of all time?

1234
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 5: I probably have to go with the elevens.

1235
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 4: Man.

1236
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 5: I like the I think they're called captain gowns all

1237
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 5: black ones.

1238
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 3: Damn, you're probably the only person in the world that

1239
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 3: like them. What you mean nobody surprised by the black ones?

1240
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 5: Right? Yeah? Yeah, what you mean you don't like those?

1241
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: They decent, but not a lot of people whiting the

1242
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 3: black though.

1243
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 5: Right now.

1244
00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: I like the concourse, they're not my face.

1245
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 5: I don't.

1246
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 3: I don't like elevens.

1247
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 5: I like eleven man, it's my favorite.

1248
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 3: He's a Columbia eleven. That white.

1249
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 5: Was the elevens.

1250
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: You had the cherry cherry elevens when we were in Atlanta,

1251
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: so white with the red.

1252
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: You had the red pat leather. They can't end up

1253
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 3: coming out years later. They gave them you back then,

1254
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: you know what I.

1255
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 5: Told him, because somebody was like they had that. I

1256
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 5: seen him a I'm like, those gotta be fake. I

1257
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 5: never seen them. And the guys like ship. We had

1258
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 5: them for you, we just never gave them to you.

1259
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 4: They had them on nice kicks, That's what I'm saying.

1260
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 5: But the Nike you guys like, we had them, we

1261
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 5: just never gave them to him.

1262
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: Like because uh, you had them in Atlanta, because I

1263
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: remember when you h Zach when I was I was

1264
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: writing the joint.

1265
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 5: It was probably a different one, but they gave me.

1266
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 5: They gave me a different one.

1267
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: You had a white and red eleven.

1268
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 5: I was like it was called something else. I know

1269
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 5: exactly what one too. And I was like Joe had

1270
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 5: by the weren't eleven? I was like, can I get them?

1271
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 3: He was like, you have to ask, bib. I was like,

1272
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 3: I'm wild, I ain't gonna ask for them.

1273
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 5: So you could have took anything. Nah.

1274
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: I know when you gave me all the white ones, bro,

1275
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: I said, I looked at you. I was like you sure.

1276
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: He was like, yeah, man, go ahead, Merry Christmas. I'm

1277
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 3: like this ship the home.

1278
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: And you know, he was what twelve and a half

1279
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: and I was at twelve, So I'm like, shit, it's cool,

1280
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: fucking little.

1281
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: Big ain't tripping happened to them? Elevens? My little brother man,

1282
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: he won him to the club and got hennessy all over.

1283
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 3: I still got him.

1284
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 5: Damn you let him take him?

1285
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 4: Nah, I didn't know.

1286
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: So he went to my closet at my house and

1287
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: he rocked him. He ain't know I was going out

1288
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: that night put him on. I seen him in the club.

1289
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: He kept hiding from you.

1290
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm here, Bro, like, come up here. He's like, no,

1291
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 3: I'm stay down here. What the hell you doing? So

1292
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: I go up to him. I look down. I was like, man,

1293
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: what the fuck?

1294
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: He brung them back upstairs. He was like, I don't

1295
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: know what happened, and it's n see brown everything. I

1296
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: was like, man, man, these ain't coming out. Bro, these

1297
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: don't come out.

1298
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 3: He like, I don't know.

1299
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 4: He just.

1300
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: They still still got them.

1301
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 5: What you got brothers from that boy?

1302
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: Lots to me, bro, mens a lot to me, Like

1303
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: it's crazy. You remember what we talked about. You bomb

1304
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: me That watch? Bid was the best. He bought me

1305
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: a watch. I was in Beverly Hills. We was in

1306
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, whatever, and I was looking at this watch

1307
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: at the hotel and I'm like looking at it and

1308
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm amazed, Like, look at the diamonds dropping in. He like,

1309
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: when you like that watch? I'm like yeah, Like thirty

1310
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: minutes go by. He called me like where you at rook.

1311
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm here here about to leave. He's like, now,

1312
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: come to my room real quick.

1313
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: Come to his room. He opened a box like here

1314
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 3: you go. It was me and jord Crawford gave me

1315
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: one Jordan one. I'm like, what the fuck?

1316
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I forgot that.

1317
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.

1318
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 3: I threw my watch on so quick and my brother

1319
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: still got that watch. You still got that. I'm like, damn,

1320
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 3: that ship was crazy. I'm like, he got a lot

1321
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:05,479
Speaker 3: of money.

1322
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 5: You gotta take care of you. The young guys man,

1323
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 5: no matter what. When I was there once a Vancouver,

1324
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 5: our older guys weren't really yeah. I mean they were

1325
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 5: trying to hold on. But I mean I never had

1326
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 5: that what I'm saying. So I try to make everywhere

1327
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 5: I went like here ship and make sure you come

1328
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 5: whenever you with me. You ain't got paid for nothing.

1329
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, bro, I appreciate that. I was a

1330
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 3: cheesecake factory king every city. I was like, yeah, I know,

1331
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 3: I'm going cheese hae factory today.

1332
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 4: I'm like I still go cheesecake to see girls refuse

1333
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 4: that as a first day Now, it's just insane.

1334
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: Disrespect because that was you got heat. I remember was

1335
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: when we got here to Phoenix. Uh, the cheesecake factory

1336
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: was like it was a Califori pizza kitchen, a cheesecae

1337
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: across from the hotel.

1338
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 3: And I looked at you and got off the bus.

1339
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 3: I'm like, we're going to He's like, hell no, I'm going.

1340
01:00:59,520 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 5: Right on.

1341
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 3: He was like, nah, I'm going home today.

1342
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 5: I was like parked at the hotel to get that.

1343
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 5: I'm gone.

1344
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 3: I was like, I gotta pay for this. It was

1345
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: funny because what was you eating when you went with me?

1346
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: I literally every city over a bit so that only

1347
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 1: time I didn't I just went over there by myself,

1348
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 1: like went to the cheesecake factory. But every city he

1349
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: took me, it didn't matter what city was in. I

1350
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: remember we went to Miami. He took me to eat.

1351
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 1: I got a chance with me, Fat Joe, Chris Brown,

1352
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: all these dudes. I'm like, damn, he really famous.

1353
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 3: As Hill, Like you know FA you know Fat Joe.

1354
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, my brother.

1355
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 4: They all tell you.

1356
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 3: I'm like team Dom I'm looking at him like.

1357
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 5: That's what that means.

1358
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he the truth out here. I'm like he took

1359
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: me to prole one twelve. He always I was always

1360
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: a bit man.

1361
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, we got somebody's snigger.

1362
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: Show you fat Joe man, who collection was crazy at

1363
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: your height.

1364
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 5: I think I have more shoes. They probably got more

1365
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 5: like more heat heat. I got a lot of shoes, man,

1366
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 5: just I've been giving so many away. After years, it

1367
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 5: kind of it kind of went down a little bit.

1368
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 5: But I've been collecting the shoes for twenty years. So

1369
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 5: I used to do like when out there, give me

1370
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 5: the shoes, I'll be like they sen me, they send

1371
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 5: me wanted everything, and I was just like, send me

1372
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 5: ten period of leaves. They sent a box ten pair

1373
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 5: of those. I just put them away. So I always

1374
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 5: had like replicas of shoes. I like, you know what

1375
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So that's putting made a closet garage out

1376
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 5: of it.

1377
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, historic even like his cars though, like I

1378
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: always wanted.

1379
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: I always tell everybody about the garage. Him and Joe

1380
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: and Smooth Bro. It was like watching MTV Cribs when

1381
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: you gotta.

1382
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 5: Get yourself a nice car.

1383
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: Bro.

1384
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I ain't never had a car till like, I mean,

1385
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 5: I had a car when I got the cars, man,

1386
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 5: you first time I did was buying me a nice,

1387
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 5: a nice Rose Bush.

1388
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Bron, I used to come out there

1389
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: and I had I had a seven forty five, seven

1390
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: fifty and they popcorn my joint. I'll never forget, so

1391
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: the whole season. This is why they popcorn, I'm gonna

1392
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: tell you. So they used to make me buy donuts

1393
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: in the morning. Oh ship, So they used to make

1394
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: me buy donuts.

1395
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 5: I always forget. Come on, man, just I'll get them next.

1396
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: So I used to go get them some time. They

1397
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: would never eat them. So I'm like, man, I ain't

1398
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: eating them and not eating them. So I just started

1399
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: putting the box in my locker. Shit it up there,

1400
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: sit up there. Put it back out every morning, put

1401
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: it back out every morning. It was finally the night

1402
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: I think everybody the team went out or whatever. We

1403
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: go out and smooth. You know, it had to be smooth.

1404
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: He come in, he want a donut. This random day,

1405
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: I put the box out. The donuts are green.

1406
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 5: Damn.

1407
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 3: They molded everything.

1408
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 5: Even what the fuck.

1409
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: I'm like shy, like, man, look, this.

1410
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 5: Is what you're doing with our money. Where you give

1411
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 5: me the money and ship what.

1412
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 3: You doing was like ship.

1413
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, I opened my every time I

1414
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: go to practice, my key is like this placed or

1415
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,959
Speaker 1: something like out or for my dog, like they about

1416
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: to popcorn your car, damn shout to al. So half

1417
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 1: the season I'm putting my key in my tight like

1418
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing in practice.

1419
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 3: After a while we just stopped practicing. Wood didn't practice

1420
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 3: no more.

1421
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 5: So I'll be out.

1422
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 1: I told them, like, I'll be playing Wood one on

1423
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: one right, So I'm putting the key in my tight

1424
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: of my other key in my tights the whole time.

1425
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: Finally get to play the last game of season. I

1426
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,760
Speaker 1: forgot we play. I'm having I had a great game.

1427
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: I had twenty six and fifteen. I'm all hype.

1428
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 3: They ruled me on you.

1429
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: We get in the locker room, everybody usually Shire, they nobody.

1430
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: Everybody already dressed. I'm getting out the shore. They're like, yeah,

1431
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: all right, but we're going out tonight. We're gonna see you.

1432
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 1: They rushing out. I come up the steps in the linny.

1433
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: You had to walk up these steps to get to

1434
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,439
Speaker 1: your cars. I walk up to the steps. I open

1435
01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: the door. Everybody got flashlights on. Smooth wife. Everybody don't

1436
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: know what the fun going on.

1437
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 3: I walked to my car.

1438
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: At this time, I was dating this lady named Ashley,

1439
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: and she like about to cry. She like, I opened

1440
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: the door, popcorn come flying out. I first looked, what

1441
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: the fuck.

1442
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 3: I'm looking at? Smooth, I'm a flag your turn? He

1443
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: like laughing and ship Bien like like you know, He like, ho,

1444
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 3: be get this car, like see you bore. I was like,

1445
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, man, who did that ship? Tyler

1446
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 3: like all right, man, they paid me five thousand dollars

1447
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 3: to do the ship man. I was like, who did?

1448
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 3: He was like it was all of them. They all

1449
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 3: came together, community.

1450
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 4: Came together.

1451
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 1: He was like, you see these big He wouldn't got

1452
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 1: the popcorn. Everything showed me the bag. I'm like, we're

1453
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 1: my iPad. That's when the iPad firstumber my iPad at

1454
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, yeah, send your trump. I opened

1455
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: the trunk. It's full of popcorn. I'm like, oh, they

1456
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: ain't playing damn was they didn't sucked up, but it

1457
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: was my dog. I went to the club with that popcorn.

1458
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: That's crazy. This give you something to get a detail?

1459
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: Five mins to get a detail. I ain't get a detail.

1460
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: My brother said, ship, excite that, I'll do this ship.

1461
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's been crazy. Big dogs, Mike Biby, we

1462
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: appreciate you sliding on this man. We were waiting for

1463
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,439
Speaker 1: this episode. Man, you big finally got on the show.

1464
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 6: Man.

1465
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 3: I'm so happy.

1466
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 5: I appreciate y'all having me on. Man, I just watch

1467
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 5: all the time. Man, that some crazy motherfucker show.

1468
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 3: Before we got out of here be here sell the

1469
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 3: people that can grasp some march at.

1470
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 4: Shop Club five twenty dot com Baby were out of

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01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 4: Here Club five twenty

1472
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: The volume