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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Oh well, it's a meat Friday, but it's

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Speaker 1: good Friday pass over and we are having fish today,

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Speaker 1: better than we do? No, No, the triggers are all

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Speaker 1: fired up. Sun is shining. It's a Friday. Fritzie he

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Speaker 1: got the commissioner of the NBA. It took Fritzie four

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Speaker 1: years to get Adam Silver on the show. And it

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Speaker 1: was worth the weight there. It was. You did a

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Speaker 1: great job. But I was curious, why now for the commissioner.

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Speaker 1: I've known him a long time and I've always thought

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Speaker 1: that he was a good guest when he came on,

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Speaker 1: Well save it for the air, all right, PAULI, So

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Speaker 1: why do you think the commissioner the NBA came on?

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Speaker 1: I'll preface this by saying he hasn't been on at

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Speaker 1: least four years. He comes on today out of nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Earlier this week, the commissioner mentions during his kind of

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Speaker 1: management issue players not playing games. Coincidentally, three days later,

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Speaker 1: it decides to join our show a guy, an interviewer

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Speaker 1: questions that we'll set up the commissioner to mention the

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Speaker 1: things that he was here to mention. He had notes

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Speaker 1: in the eighties in Chicago, and he goes, Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: You know what a player he was. You know, he

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Speaker 1: that we didn't promote it, we didn't prompt him to

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Speaker 1: right with you. I think that was a completely planned

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Speaker 1: perfectly well. I don't want to take away from Fritzie's

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Speaker 1: great word well, Freszie never gives up, which helps. That's true.

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Speaker 1: How long has it been the NFL commissioner since he

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Speaker 1: been on this show, but that was when Mike Florio

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Speaker 1: and Ross Tucker were hosting. It's just do you think

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Speaker 1: it's just a coincidence the commissioner of the NFL was

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Speaker 1: just way too much pressure. I got some questions. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's start with are you. We're gonna talk to mel Kiper,

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Speaker 1: John c Riley will join us later on Hawks, Cabs, Pelicans, Clippers.

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Speaker 1: That'll be coming up. The Packers have added a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: talk to mel Kiper about what he thinks the Packers

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Speaker 1: I don't think he came off well. First of all,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to be talking about how you were disrespected.

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Speaker 1: And then he also says, hey, you know, I'd love

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Speaker 1: it's a terrible take when somebody says that. Sam Darnold

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Speaker 1: Let's see what it's like to actually be treated like crap.

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Speaker 1: He needs to just stop talking and just wait and

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Speaker 1: you have this interview where I'm disrespected. You have no

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Speaker 1: the whole time, and yeah, are you disrespected? How about

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Speaker 1: of thousand athletes who have been disrespected. Chances are you

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Speaker 1: But let's see what happens over the next two weeks.

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Speaker 1: twenty four touchdowns, then he cooled off. Baker Mayfield needs

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Speaker 1: him play for Pittsburgh. And then you have that rivalry.

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Speaker 1: bring in Baker Mayfield. You got Jared Goffer one more year.

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Speaker 1: You know who should feel disrespected Jimmy Garoppolo. And you

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Speaker 1: Baker's gotta understand what pro sports is all about. It's

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Speaker 1: a business. It's personal to you, it's not personal to them.

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Speaker 1: Curtis in Oregon joining us, Hey Curtis, what's on your

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Speaker 1: mind today? Hey Dan? Listening to your interview. I had

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Speaker 1: a couple of thoughts. One would have loved to hear

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Speaker 1: off of the past talking about percentage of games played.

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Speaker 1: I think you have to do minutes because if you

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Speaker 1: enter the game ten second team, you foul, some money

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Speaker 1: go out. The rest of the game. Is that a

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Speaker 1: game played? Sure, and maybe it's minutes, Curtis, maybe you

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Speaker 1: just workshopping this in real time. But the commissioner did

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Speaker 1: not flippant, like if you say something, then he's going

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Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, you're a max contract guy,

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Speaker 1: That's the common denominator. How do I get you to play?

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Speaker 1: almost like the Premier League where you have super teams

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Speaker 1: they don't have relegation, but they would. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: certain teams that aren't winning the championship every year. But

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Speaker 1: looking for parody those ways. The NFL loves parody because

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Speaker 1: everybody has a chance to start the season. NBA starts.

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Speaker 1: You don't have parody. I mean you might have. The

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Speaker 1: Cavaliers are a cute story. Okay, they're not winning the championship,

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Speaker 1: in against the best lineman in the world into a

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Speaker 1: guy who can be a double digit sack guy in

426
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Speaker 1: one season. That's going to be a challenge for the

427
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Speaker 1: team to dr ast him. And I think another kid

428
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Speaker 1: that is definitely tough to evaluate based on you know,

429
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Speaker 1: where he is in terms of the smaller because with

430
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Speaker 1: one double as Trevor Penning. I like Trevor Penning, but

431
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: he's got to improve. He's got to get more bend.

432
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Speaker 1: He can't be as aggressive as he was going after

433
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Speaker 1: people after the whistle. He's got to settle down a bit,

434
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Speaker 1: improve his technique if he's going to be a left

435
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Speaker 1: tackle coming out of Northern Iowa, and a lot of

436
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Speaker 1: people think, and I do think he can go sixteen

437
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: in New Orleans or seventeen to the Charger. So a

438
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: ton of talent. I love the nastiest I love the

439
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: fire he plays with, but I think he's got to

440
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 1: settle down a bit and certainly, I say improved that

441
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Speaker 1: technique to be a great pass blocker from the left

442
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Speaker 1: tackle position in the NFL. I talked to his scout

443
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Speaker 1: and I asked him about Malik Willis, and he said,

444
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Speaker 1: he's a tough read for me because he did well

445
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Speaker 1: against competition where he was the best athlete on the field,

446
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: but when he wasn't the best athlete on the field,

447
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: he struggled a little bit. So how do you grade

448
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: rationalize what Mali Willis did at Liberty? I think this now.

449
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: I think the first part of the season last year,

450
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Speaker 1: he looked like the top five pick, maybe a number

451
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: one pick. Overall. The second half he was making some

452
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Speaker 1: bad decisions and some bad throws. He had interceptions against

453
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Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee State, three, three against Louisiana Monroe, and he struggled. Obviously,

454
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Speaker 1: he knew the team would struggle against Old Miss. In

455
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Speaker 1: that game, though, Dan he drew the respect of the

456
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Speaker 1: Rebel defensive players. Chance Campbell heck of a linebacker come

457
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Speaker 1: out an Old Miss play. To my high school, Calvert

458
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: Hall was a great player. Chances one of the football

459
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: IQ through the roof. He's like a defensive coordinator role

460
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Speaker 1: on the field. He went right up to Malik Willis

461
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Speaker 1: after that game and said, what you are deceptively fast,

462
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Speaker 1: you're deceptively strong. You're a great player. I really respect

463
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Speaker 1: the talent you have. And he was just amazing. He's

464
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Speaker 1: I couldn't run chance can run chances the four fives

465
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Speaker 1: and he said, this kid is fast, he's powerful. He's

466
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Speaker 1: got that compact frame, tough to bring to the ground.

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Speaker 1: In the Senior Bolt Danny, they had the ball like

468
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Speaker 1: the forty yard line and that was when then the

469
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: first quarter when it was like the end of the half.

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Speaker 1: So he starts running. They say, okay, why are you're running? Okay,

471
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Speaker 1: you gotta get a touchdown here. Just throw it up

472
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Speaker 1: for grabs, right, you try to get it. He almost

473
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Speaker 1: rand in a Chad Muma from Wyoming tackled him at

474
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Speaker 1: the five yard line or he would have taken him

475
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Speaker 1: from the forty end when that last play of that quarter.

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Speaker 1: So he's a talent, he's got a great tremendous character. Yes,

477
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Speaker 1: you know, is he NFL ready now? He needs a

478
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: little work. Possibly. We'd always say that about everybody, And

479
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: sometimes the guy should think our NFL ready turn out

480
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Speaker 1: to be Some guys should think the guys that the

481
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Speaker 1: NFL are NFL ready do nothing, Josh Rosen being one

482
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Speaker 1: of them. So to me, Dan, somebody's gonna take him high.

483
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Speaker 1: I'm going to Caroline at six. We'll see. He's gonna

484
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Speaker 1: be a fun one to watch because Pittsburgh sits at

485
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Speaker 1: twenty and there are still people out there to think

486
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Speaker 1: he could slide down to twenty to Mike Tomlin and

487
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: the Steelers and Pittsburgh, you have taken Kenny Pickett if

488
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Speaker 1: pickets still left there on the board. We're talking to

489
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Speaker 1: mel kiper draft expert. I'm also wondering when you when

490
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Speaker 1: you first started this hit the Mother's ship. You were

491
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Speaker 1: you were saying where you thought players were going to go,

492
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Speaker 1: or you were great, you were grading them. It wasn't

493
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Speaker 1: you changed in where you thought the team, what the

494
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: teams were going to do? Do I have that right

495
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: the time frame? Yeah? I think, Dan, what you always

496
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Speaker 1: tried to do and I did this when I put

497
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Speaker 1: out the draft reports back in seventy eight, seventy nine,

498
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Speaker 1: eighty and all those years, I always had a mock

499
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Speaker 1: first round, right, which was trying to predict what teams

500
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Speaker 1: would do. And I always had a first round based

501
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Speaker 1: on what I would do if I were the GM

502
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: as we moved through the draft and Todd and I

503
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Speaker 1: are going to do that, We're gonna do a three

504
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Speaker 1: round rotate. Rotating through Todd makes it bick. I make

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Speaker 1: the bick for that team based on who's available and

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Speaker 1: what we would do, not trying to match what's going

507
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Speaker 1: to happen come April twenty eighth. So but it was

508
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: confusing to people said, Okay, I don't get it. Well,

509
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Speaker 1: I said, well, this is what I would do, and

510
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Speaker 1: this is what the teams will do. But it was

511
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Speaker 1: confusing to an extent. So the mock drafts are strictly

512
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Speaker 1: trying to match what teams will do come April twenty eighth.

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Speaker 1: The ratings board. Did I have my big board on

514
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com every week, updated every couple of weeks.

515
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: That's strictly my feeling. DAN has nothing to do with

516
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: where I don't great players based on where they're going

517
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Speaker 1: to be drafted. I great them based on ability, so

518
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Speaker 1: stack them up whatever happens happens. That has nothing to

519
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Speaker 1: do with trying to figure out a mock draft and

520
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: where kids may go. How did you have Baker Mayfield

521
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Speaker 1: ranked coming out of Oklahoma. He was right. I had

522
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen had one of the highest rads ever gave

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. I had him number one. I had Sam two,

524
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Speaker 1: and I had met Mayfield right after that, So it

525
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Speaker 1: was Josh Allen's draft for me. I thought Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: I predicted even the morning of the draft. I thought

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Speaker 1: he would go number one. I thought the Cleveland Browns

528
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Speaker 1: would take Josh Allen. Uh. Yeah, I'd heard that wasn't

529
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Speaker 1: necessarily gonna be Sam, don't. I did not think that

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Speaker 1: that was one of the curveballs that it's fun to

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Speaker 1: get Dan. I remember the morning of the draft, everybody sin,

532
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be Baker Mayfield. I did not see that coming.

533
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Speaker 1: And like I said, I had I had a mock

534
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Speaker 1: draft team at that morning. At Josh Allen going number one.

535
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Speaker 1: He was my highest rated. He was one of my

536
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Speaker 1: top ten highest rated quarterbacks of all time, so I did.

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Speaker 1: He ended up being the third quarterback taken that year,

538
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Speaker 1: So it just was a surprise. It was a Baker

539
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: had moved from a third round pick in August way up.

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Speaker 1: Didn't think it would be number one overall, but it was.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Dan, I think he's getting unfair criticism.

542
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: I think it's totally uni understand the commercials and getting

543
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: all the put Hey, who wouldn't take advantage of it. It

544
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: It somebody comes to you and says, hey, there's some

545
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: commercial opportunities to take them, right, But the to criticize

546
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield after this year based on the pain and

547
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: what he went through with that offensive line, injured running backs,

548
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: injured receiver issues of Beckham traded to criticize you know,

549
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: Mayfield based on this year when he almost had that

550
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: team in the Super Bowl two years ago and played

551
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: great football. I don't understand it. I can't rationalize that.

552
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: I can't figure it out. Dan. It makes absolutely no

553
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: sense to me. But he's taking it personally, and he

554
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: says he's disrespected. This is a business, mel and I

555
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: think Baker would be better served at just not saying anything.

556
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Speaker 1: You know that he's the star. I you know, I'm

557
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: a star at Oklahoma. I'm the number one overall pick.

558
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: And you know, you can't believe that. It's like Mary,

559
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, until death do us part. Well, people get

560
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: divorced all the time, and that's what happened in the

561
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: NFL a younger or better player came along and they

562
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: decided they fell in love with Deshaun Watson. It's not fair,

563
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: but that's that's what happens. And it just feels like

564
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: playing the victim doesn't help him. If I'm a team

565
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: looking at him, unless I go, man, he's got a

566
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Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder. He's going to be balling out

567
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: this year. I still worry about that. I'm a star

568
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: and I was disrespected by the by the Cleveland Browns. Yeah,

569
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Speaker 1: I guess it could have been handled a little bit differently,

570
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: but kids react in a way, and it's it's it's

571
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: becomes personal. You're a quarterback, Dan, You're the face of

572
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: the organization. Everybody's talking about you and the only candle.

573
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Speaker 1: I guess so much, and I think he felt like, hey, yeah,

574
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Speaker 1: I deserved a little more than that I got. I

575
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: paid my play through a significant pain. Let's face a van.

576
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: It's not the right shoulder, but the left affects the

577
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: right and everything. When if everything would have been perfect

578
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: around him and he's playing through pain, maybe has a

579
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: better chance that have some more success. But when you

580
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: have everything around you go awry and you're playing through

581
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: significant pain, and you're gutting it out and everybody's saying

582
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: your garbage, you're trash, you're very good, you're terrible. I

583
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: don't understand why you don't look at it and say, Okay, realistically,

584
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: he can't be great this year. There's no way he

585
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: could be as good as he was two years ago.

586
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: Why we expect him to be what he was when

587
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: he couldn't be that, and then rip him for everything

588
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: he's saying here and there. You know, I can't believe

589
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield still out there and doesn't have a team.

590
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: I just can't not believe it. Somebody's gonna get this kid,

591
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: and I think he may have the last laugh in

592
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: this He's gonna come in. He's always had a chip,

593
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,479
Speaker 1: and his chip is bigger right now and it's ever

594
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: been damned So but I said, I did not Adhim

595
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: as the one or two quarterback. But I'm defending Baker

596
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: because two years ago he looked like the real deal,

597
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: and he was when he was healthy, and that team

598
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: was hop rating on all cylinders, and this year it's

599
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: just I think it's I don't get it, and I

600
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,479
Speaker 1: don't get it. With a lot of players, a quarterback

601
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: who they expect way too much from despite what's going

602
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: on around him, which a lot of times isn't very good.

603
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: I came in the Monday of draft week and I

604
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: didn't even tell my guys. I said, I got breaking

605
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: news and it's going to blow you away. And so

606
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: I had a great source on this, and he says

607
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: to me on Sunday night, he said, the Browns are

608
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Speaker 1: going to take Baker Mayfield. Oh my god. And so

609
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: I come in and I say to my guys, at

610
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: like nine o two, I didn't even tell him prior

611
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: to the show. I said, I want your reaction. I said,

612
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Speaker 1: I know who the Cleveland Browns are going to take.

613
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: And then they guessed who the Browns were going to take,

614
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: and I said Baker Mayfield and everybody was like what.

615
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Speaker 1: And I was with you because I know Seattle was

616
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: really interested in trading up to get maybe the rights

617
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: to Josh Allen and be able to draft him with Cleveland.

618
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Speaker 1: And I thought, Okay, I like Baker. He's entertaining. I

619
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Speaker 1: just don't think he's the number one overall pick. But

620
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Speaker 1: I do agree with you he's not garbage. But let

621
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: me ask you this, would you rather have equal pay

622
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: both healthy, Jimmy Garoppolo or Baker Mayfield. I would rather

623
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Speaker 1: have Baker Mayfield. Um, you know, I just think I

624
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: think Baker at his age where he is, what he showed.

625
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: I love the competitiveness of Baker. The players, I mean,

626
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: he can't not like the way he plays the game.

627
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: Like I said this past year, I'm gonna give the

628
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: mulligan for I'm definitely gonna do that. So I think

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Speaker 1: when you look at it, Dan, what's fun. And to

630
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Speaker 1: go back to like you were talking about the mock

631
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Speaker 1: draft and what you heard, that's what I don't particularly

632
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Speaker 1: like about what I do, what we all do now,

633
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: it's become a mock draft nation, right, and it's every

634
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: and what happens to this is what happens to me.

635
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: And I know Todd has talked about a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: We sit there and Daniel Jeremi, everybody, we sit there

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Speaker 1: and Mike nayacust even say it. Mike would say it

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Speaker 1: to me. We sit there on draft day and we're

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Speaker 1: worrying about what do we mock it right? Do we

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Speaker 1: have it right? What's happening? And you're so preoccupied with

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Speaker 1: your diagon mock And I even will come Dan during

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Speaker 1: the draft, I don't even know a player was taking.

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Speaker 1: It would be in the fifth round of Day three,

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Speaker 1: and I'll be talking about a kid that I thought

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Speaker 1: went to a team because I mocked him there and

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Speaker 1: he didn't go to that And even a day later

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Speaker 1: after the draft over, I'll still be thinking about this

648
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Speaker 1: player being with this team because I kept hearing its dance.

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Speaker 1: Mock drafts really screw your mind up, But they really do.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm kind of done with them, but I've

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Speaker 1: got They just occupy way too much of my thought

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Speaker 1: process during the course of the season, and way too

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Speaker 1: much even right now. All Right, we have a bet

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Speaker 1: in studio that a quarterback will be selected in the

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Speaker 1: top thirteen picks. Okay, what do you think I would agree?

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Speaker 1: How many quarterbacks in the two One? I would say

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Speaker 1: one Kenny will be I think it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Dan Carolina trade down from six or they they stay

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Speaker 1: at six. Do they get and they feel like we

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Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks we really like. There's all the talk

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Speaker 1: about Matt Royal recruited Kenny Pick that he loves Kenny Peckett.

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Speaker 1: Maybe organizationally, we'll see about Malake Woods. They moved down

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Speaker 1: for Corino. One of these two, I've always believe you

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Speaker 1: got to identify one. This is our guy, if you

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Speaker 1: like to fine, I said, when the Eli Manning and

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger and Rivers came out, I thought it all be

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Speaker 1: really good. You could be happy with which woman it

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Speaker 1: fell to you, well, which one fell Ben Roethlisberger felt

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Speaker 1: right justin Herbert fell to the Charger. Josh Allen sell

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Speaker 1: them Buffalo went and got him. So the point being,

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Speaker 1: I think in this particular draft, the quarterback that falls

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Speaker 1: time sometimes sends out to be better than the one

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Speaker 1: that goes higher. It'll be interesting to see how this

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Speaker 1: all shakes down. I went and put Willis. Some people

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Speaker 1: are sticking a tod Head pick it going six. I

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Speaker 1: have Willis, but I do think one of the quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: goes in the top thirteen. Always great to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Your best day has always fun and the questions you ask.

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Speaker 1: One question you asked, I'd never have gotten who's the toughest,

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Speaker 1: who are the tough guys to evaluate? So then it's

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Speaker 1: a first for me. You did it. You're at the

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Speaker 1: top of the board. Pal. Thank you. Mel. That's Mel

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Speaker 1: kiper draft expert I'm having a hell of a day today.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think we're guaranteed to win the Sports

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Speaker 1: I don't like to bring it up, but you know,

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Speaker 1: now that we're on the topic, I almost had a

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Speaker 1: perfect game. Yeah see. Should we start ignoring you and

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Speaker 1: I don't think Michael Jordan cared to be like Bird

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Speaker 1: didn't care to be like Kobe, didn't care to be liked.

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Speaker 1: And maybe if that's what Shaq is saying, then I

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Speaker 1: still going to be able to dominate you. But scared,

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Speaker 1: all right, I guess I understand it. But I was

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Speaker 1: just sort of surprised with that. It felt like it

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Speaker 1: came out of nowhere and it was on his podcast,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know the context of it. I just

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Speaker 1: Lebron James and maybe not. Maybe he didn't put that

736
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Speaker 1: fear in you that these other players put in you. Yeah, Mark,

737
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Speaker 1: maybe he just won, like you don't have to fear me.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna win regardless. Yeah, But do do you

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Speaker 1: think teams feared Tom Brady? Yeah? Pull, I wonder if

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Speaker 1: Shack means teammates as well, where like he made teammates,

741
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Speaker 1: because maybe that's the topic. Like teammates you be scared

742
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Speaker 1: of the wrath of Kobe Bryant, I'm sure they were.

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Speaker 1: You'll go to the bench. Michael Jordan, You'll go to

744
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Speaker 1: a new team if I don't like. Maybe Jeffer is

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Speaker 1: referring to the state of the team and guys like

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Speaker 1: Kobe and Lebron Jordan wouldn't let this happen, would let

747
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Speaker 1: guys don't? Maybe that's the context. Yeah, I just saw

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Speaker 1: the headline and I was curious about that. Let's see

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Speaker 1: Jeff in Detroit. Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 1: What up? No? You guys talking about? What nobody scared

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Speaker 1: of Lebron James uh them Pistons was when he came

752
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Speaker 1: and whooped gays with that Tavaliers coop man. That was wrong,

753
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Speaker 1: really wrong? What up? No? One? Time for Chat wrote

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Speaker 1: two times from a back round Bros on his meet Friday,

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Speaker 1: Real quick, Dan Um, you guys had you guys did

756
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Speaker 1: that Adam Silver interview? That was spectacular? It really really was.

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Speaker 1: You asked all great questions and it made me wonder

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Speaker 1: what would be said or what would his legacy be

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Speaker 1: because he's so open, honest, and it seems like a

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Speaker 1: lot of the players like him opposed to arm where

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Speaker 1: it was kind of like, you know, an adversarial type

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Speaker 1: thing going on with the players. It seems like he's

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Speaker 1: working with the players that opposed to against him or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and it just makes me wonder what would his legacy being.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure to be very, very spectacular awesome. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are fast of the

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Speaker 1: show South Park. If I'm wrong, I apologize, I'll take

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Speaker 1: a pot to the face, But I swear I have

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Speaker 1: found a cartoon character that embodies Fritzie. His name is

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Speaker 1: Kyle's cousin Kyle, and somehow any conversation you have with

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Speaker 1: him always reverted back to his intestinal problems or something

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Speaker 1: that he has going on with him. He is really

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Speaker 1: really funny man. So we'll check that out. Thank you, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: People wanted to know who words per minute, Mel kiper Fritzie.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Mel kiper. I'm gonna lean towards Mel. Yes,

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Speaker 1: are we going words per minute or words per breath?

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Speaker 1: Because I think Mel might have taught them both. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Well, Fritzie runs out of error, and that's

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Speaker 1: where he gets in trouble because then you get the yeah,

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Speaker 1: I kind of deflat yeah you do. Yeah, you're like

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Speaker 1: a balloon. Mel. Mel's a professional at doing this more

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Speaker 1: information per minute than just about anybody I've ever been around.

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Speaker 1: That's rapid fire. Ricky in South Carolina high reck, what's

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Speaker 1: on your mind? Hey, DP, thanks for having me man,

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Speaker 1: And what's up to the ban at um? It's driving

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Speaker 1: me crazy. I have to know who the big Death

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Speaker 1: Tones fan. Every time you come back from break you're

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Speaker 1: playing something from the Death Tones. That'd be Seaton. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, he's got the metal horns and then the

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Speaker 1: hate brief thing. So also, I have not a stat

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Speaker 1: of the day, but just did you know pistol Pete

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Speaker 1: was from Daniel High School from South Carolina, right up

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Speaker 1: the road for me. Oh all right, well, thank you, Ricky.

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Speaker 1: I thought Pete Merivitch grew up in al Equippa, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 1: maybe went to South Carolina. I don't know where his

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Speaker 1: dad was coaching when Pete was in high school. Yeampo.

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Speaker 1: Pete was born in western Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh, Equippa. You're right.

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Speaker 1: He played high school varsity basketball Daniel High School in

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Speaker 1: Central South Carolina. The town is named Central South Carolina,

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Speaker 1: not the region. Well, his dad had to be coaching, yes,

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Speaker 1: somewhere at that time. I don't think he was coaching

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Speaker 1: at La Sue. But his dad then took a job

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Speaker 1: when Pete was still in high school to teach at Clemson,

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Speaker 1: and then LSU came into town and picked him all up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because Pete decided to go there too. That always helped.

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Speaker 1: Guess I have a dad gets a job, Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Sun gets to shoot as much as he wants to.

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00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 1: Press Merovich and Merevich would would famously dribble the ball

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Speaker 1: out of a car. So he'd be the passenger and

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Speaker 1: he'd be dribbling the ball. I don't know how fast

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Speaker 1: he'd bring the basketball with it. He constantly had a

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Speaker 1: basketball with him. But there are very few people who

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Speaker 1: are basketball savants when it comes to handling it. Marcus

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Speaker 1: Johnson with the Harlem Globetrotters. Kyrie is certainly up there,

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Speaker 1: but it's not a long list. When you when you

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Speaker 1: about what that guy's got a good handle. Now there's

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Speaker 1: a good handle, and then there's Merevich, Kyrie. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: leaving out a couple of people here. Final hour coming up.

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