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Speaker 3: All right, here we go, it's our two. It's the Herd.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Brian

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Speaker 1: Baldinger going to be joining us from the Jets and

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Speaker 1: Giants camp today. They're having a joint practices with the

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Speaker 1: Jets and the Giants. Both teams have some real talent

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Speaker 1: on the defensive side. We don't know what transpires a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So Jmack likes one of them and has disdained for

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Speaker 1: the other. Jackson Dark pretty promising justin fields. We'll see

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Speaker 1: so Jmack once the NFL season. I give myself four

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Speaker 1: opportunities to make predictions for the following year. Last year

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Speaker 1: I went four for four in the AFC Division Champions

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Speaker 1: two for four in the NFC. I did get Washington

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Speaker 1: was my surprise team in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Nailed it.

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Speaker 1: To make the playoffs. I predicted Denver was the easiest

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Speaker 1: team to double their win total. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: quite did, but they were much better. They made the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: so I felt pretty good about last year. It's hard,

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Speaker 1: you're not going eight for eight. AFC is much easier

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Speaker 1: than the NFC. But I do think now that you

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Speaker 1: watch OTAs and rookie camp and you get consensus opinions

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Speaker 1: from camps on what rookies are crushing, who's hurt, who's injured?

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Speaker 3: See you ready to go? Fire away, buddy, Here we go.

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Speaker 1: This is my final big tweek, my NFL predictions. We

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Speaker 1: start in the AFC and most of what I am

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Speaker 1: predicting will stay the same. AFC East Bills are going

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Speaker 1: to win it. Patriots are my most improved team in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Will be a wild team. They've had a

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Speaker 1: very good camp. Dolphins coming out now, as we predicted,

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Speaker 1: the culture, the accountability, Mike McDaniels saying it must improve.

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Speaker 1: We said that and we got nothing. But you know

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Speaker 1: what from Dolphin fans. The coach says it, and everybody says, well,

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Speaker 1: of course. The Jets, I just structurally I have no

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Speaker 1: idea their fourth we go to the AFC North. It's

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Speaker 1: going to stay the same. Bengals, Joe Burrows had a

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Speaker 1: great camp. That's promising because they've been a slow starting team.

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Speaker 1: Ravens are the best operation, arguably in the sport. Steelers

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Speaker 1: have not been impressive once again. Can't run the ball

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Speaker 1: in camp or in the season. Cleveland's trying to get

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Speaker 1: a number one pick next year. Shadur is going to start.

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Speaker 1: Mark my word, probably finished fourth, but there'll be an

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Speaker 1: interesting fourth place team that stays the same. My first

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Speaker 1: the Jags into the second spot. They've had a very

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Speaker 1: good camp. Travis Hunter has been effective on both sides.

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Speaker 1: Travis Trevor Lawrence has had a very good camp. Lee

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Speaker 1: year or two and this has mostly been about the Titans,

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Speaker 1: who I think they have the quarterback and the coach

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Speaker 1: Between Brian Thomas and Travis Hunter. In the camp, they've

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Speaker 1: and AFC West. I am flipping the Broncos and the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: The East remains the same. Eagles, Commanders, Giants, Cowboys. I

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Speaker 1: but that's an Eagles division. I know everybody says, well

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Speaker 1: But Jayden Daniels, in my opinion, and the staff are

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Speaker 1: NFC North Major change, Green Bay quiet camp. I don't

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Speaker 3: And the more I look at Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: They love their first round pick the more I like

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Speaker 1: the Packers. Do not worry about Jordan Love's non throwing hand.

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Speaker 1: He will start Week one and then in the NFC

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Speaker 1: South it stays the same. You know, Falcons, Bucks are

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Speaker 1: I love their GM. They can make a move of

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Speaker 1: the trade deadline. Overall, the Saints are one of the

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Speaker 1: worst teams. The Bucks throw was feisty, Baker Mayfield playing

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Speaker 1: Rams have had a bumpy camp. Matt Stafford's not practicing,

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Speaker 1: Well with an old quarterback in Matt Stafford, Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'll move the Niners from fourth to third, even though

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Speaker 1: put Seattle. This is my shocker. I think Seattle is

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Speaker 1: gonna win the division. Gray Zabel, that offensive lineman their

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Speaker 1: first pick has been a dog in practice. So the Eagles, Packers, Bucks,

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Speaker 1: and Seahawks are the division winners. Commanders, Lions and Rams

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Speaker 3: Issue, it worries me.

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Speaker 1: And remember, of all the good teams in the league

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Speaker 1: last year, go look at point differential for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: Ravens blew a lot of people out, Bills blew a

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Speaker 1: lot of people out, Lions blew a lot of people out.

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Speaker 1: lot of close games. Left tackle not practicing, stafford banged up,

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I have all these notes for your

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Speaker 4: Patriots pick that are not good. But then this Seahawks

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Speaker 4: nonsense just has me totally rattled.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm shaken. To the core.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing, my friend, Colin Seahawks new offensive lineman,

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Speaker 3: Had a very very, very very good camp, Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 3: I'm Colin.

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at their Do you want to guess how

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Speaker 4: many times their favored in their first six games?

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, first six games?

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Speaker 4: They're favored once there, they're underdogs most of.

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Speaker 1: The How many times was Washington favored in their first

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Speaker 1: six games?

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Speaker 1: How many times was bo Nicks favored in his first

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Speaker 1: eight games?

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Speaker 2: Collin?

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is a setback, okay? Brian Baldinger thirteen NFL

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Speaker 3: seasons NFL Network as to joining US.

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Speaker 1: Okay, with all my predictions, Brian, give me one you

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Speaker 1: didn't like in one you did. There's got to be

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Speaker 1: something you didn't like.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean to put the Vikings last in

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Speaker 5: the NFC North Colin Andrew assist in Eagan, Minnesota. Like

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Speaker 5: that roster is stacked. They led the league in takeaways

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Speaker 5: last year. Column, you think that's kind of an important

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Speaker 5: stat Brian Flores hadn't gone away and he got better

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Speaker 5: on defense. The offensive line is upgrading. You can argue

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Speaker 5: I think the court, the coach has proven that he

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Speaker 5: they're going to get a lot of extra at bats.

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Speaker 5: I can't see the Vikings being the doormat of that division.

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Speaker 1: All right, okay, what about I'll throw it out. The

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Speaker 1: Seahawk pick second year, totally new, culture upgraded. You know,

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, who's closer to his prime than Geno Smith.

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Speaker 1: They love their offensive line pick. You're smiling. What do

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Speaker 5: Well, because you've been doing your homework onlum like you

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Speaker 5: you're you're watching Gray's abel play Left Good last week

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Speaker 5: and he's really one of those guys that you build

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Speaker 5: it takes it about a half a year to understand

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Speaker 5: his concepts defensively, but I thought they really caught on

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Speaker 5: last year and they should be very good. The team

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Speaker 5: that I think is going to surprise though, and look,

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Speaker 5: Seattle won ten games last year, didn't make the playoffs.

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Speaker 5: You know, he bring Sam Donald in fine you change

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Speaker 5: the offense coordinator upgrade. But I do think the Arizona

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Speaker 5: Cardinals are going to be a lot better than what

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Speaker 5: people think.

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Speaker 3: Like they're the.

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Speaker 6: Differences that they've added.

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Speaker 5: Defensively, they're gonna be a very very and the coordinator

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Speaker 5: that they have, Nick Rails, that's going to be a

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Speaker 5: tough team to beat right now, especially in that division.

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Speaker 5: I think the Cardinals gonna be vastly improved.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask a Jets and Giants joint practices.

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Speaker 3: I said it this week.

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Speaker 1: If you play for Lane Kiffen for three years in

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Speaker 1: the SEC and you're productive, especially the last two years,

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Speaker 1: I think you're ready for the NFL. It's the toughest

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Speaker 1: defensive conference with the most NFL bodies Lane can coach

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Today he had ups and downs, but

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Speaker 1: I thought he looked really comfortable. And I look at

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Speaker 1: this team and maybe there's been promises made to Russell.

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Speaker 1: This is not a super Bowl team. It's a what

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Speaker 1: the heck is Jackson Dart and I don't think you

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Speaker 1: can discover that with four starts this year. I think

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Speaker 1: division rivals. You tell me, what do you see from

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Speaker 1: Jackson Dart. What do you hear you're at practice?

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Speaker 6: Well, I like what I've seen, and I've talked to him.

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Speaker 5: The touchdown throw that he made the other day to

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Speaker 3: Does that affect the culture?

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Speaker 5: These negotiations get choppy, they get personal, Jerry saying he

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Speaker 5: You know a guy that played with the Cowboys, they

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Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger, NFL Network analyst, Jets and Giants joint practices

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Speaker 5: I don't know how many reps are going to go

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Speaker 5: That's that's that's gonna be good scrimmaging right there between

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Speaker 1: By the way, Baldy Ben Johnson just said, everybody's playing

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Speaker 6: He listened to George, he's listening to the program. What

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Speaker 3: You do great work.

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Speaker 6: Thanks as all, my man, Yeah, my pleasure.

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Speaker 3: You got to call NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy that loves football and those football So

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Speaker 1: how about that Jay mccle williams taking some live snapperonies wonderful.

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Speaker 4: I'm still shook by your Seattle Seahawks nonsense.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I just come.

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Speaker 4: I'm floored. Like listen, I like outside the box predictions.

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Speaker 3: I love them. Actually, this one just doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Make sense to me. You have to make it make

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: Have you been reading about this Niner schedule? Are you overreacting?

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Speaker 1: Have you been reading about the Niners wide receiver issue?

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Speaker 1: Like they don't have a wide receiver outside of Ricky Pierce.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got contract disputes. It's a mess.

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Speaker 4: So Colin, the best quarterback the Niners face outside of

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Speaker 4: division is Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 4: None of They don't face any elite quarterbacks. Robert Salah's back.

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Speaker 4: You know, how good of a defensive coordinator is. I

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Speaker 4: think you butchered the NFC West badly. You know, there's

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Speaker 4: a world where you got it upside down and Arizona

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Speaker 4: shocks people who wins a division. But I will be

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Speaker 4: stunned if Seattle's not for it's outside of like a

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Speaker 4: major injury to quarterback or something.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well that's con take for you.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so was Washington and Denver last year.

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Speaker 4: By the way, do you want to know what Seattle

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Speaker 4: was at home last year? Remember the what are they

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Speaker 4: called the thirteenth man or whatever? Twolfth man? Yeah, three

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Speaker 4: and six at the mystique is gone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: My concern in that division is Aleric Jackson and Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1: That's the issue. That's the old quarterbacks. You know, Steelers

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Speaker 1: let their left tackle go. Here comes erin. That's not good.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, it's not the Matt Stafford injury. It's

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Speaker 1: like Aleric Jensen Jackson. You're like, okay, we have an

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Speaker 1: issue now again. Rob Hanstein is an excellent right tackle.

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Speaker 1: Rob may retire after the season. Rob May play thirteen games.

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Speaker 1: You can't have issues at tackle with Matt Stafford. You

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Speaker 1: could have them with cam Ward. You could have them

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Speaker 1: with Jordan Love. Young quarterbacks that can move. Matt's an

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Speaker 1: old pocket guy, Jared Goff, Kirk Cousins, Aaron, you can.

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Speaker 1: You can't have tackle issues little pause with the Rams.

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Speaker 3: So he joins us. J Mack with a news turn

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Speaker 4: Go back to the quarterback tiers, shall we Colin? Because

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow was in the first tier, tied with Mahomes

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Speaker 4: as first overall. But how about this huge compliment in

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Speaker 4: the piece on Burrow with an anonymous head coach.

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Speaker 3: Why would you have to be anonymous to admit this.

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow is the closest thing to Joe Montana that

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Speaker 4: I have seen. I'm gonna just put your name on

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Speaker 4: that one, but I guess then it would look not

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Speaker 4: great if you're complimenting him and he's not your quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday I said Burrow not a terrible bet for MVP,

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Speaker 4: just because he's going to be slinging it and he

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Speaker 4: seems like he's on a mission. Collins seems very focused,

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Speaker 4: wants to play in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the easiest pick I made it, you made it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure the easiest pick in the NFL this year

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Speaker 1: for a team that didn't make the playoffs last year

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Speaker 1: and will this year is Cincinnati because it's almost impossible

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Speaker 1: to be as good as Burrow has been and not

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs. It's a total indictment of the ownership

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Speaker 1: in front office of Cincinnati that Joe Burrow didn't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. He was for most of the year better

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Speaker 1: than Patrick Mahomes, and that's not debatable. Almost all of

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Speaker 1: the year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, wait, did you say almost because

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Speaker 4: Burrow is better than Mahomes last year?

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Speaker 3: Well, statistically he was. He had not even close.

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Speaker 4: Mahomes had had a rough year. I know you can't

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Speaker 4: say anything negative at about Mahomes, but yeah, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 4: is an.

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Speaker 3: All time great.

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt about it. I'm just curious given the

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Speaker 4: division Lamar Mahomes, Josh Allen all about the same agent.

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Speaker 4: Do you think there's a world where Burrow just doesn't

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Speaker 4: win a super Bowl in his career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Dan Marino didn't. Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think so much of it is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Burrow and Stafford play. It really came down to one

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald play. I mean that was the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: Well, and the Stafford drive before that for the game.

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Speaker 3: No, I was great, but I mean Burrow had had

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Speaker 3: great drives.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, so much of this stuff is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jimmy garob was thinking about this this morning.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo out played Mahomes for three quarters in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. If he connects on one deep ball, Garoppolo,

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Speaker 1: it's arguably, I don't remember his stats. Is the MVP

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Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. They it was the Chiefs dominate

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, played great and San Francisco and Shanahan

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Speaker 1: get tight.

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Speaker 3: If he hits on one play.

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Speaker 1: There's a different outcome, very likely a different outcome. And

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Speaker 1: now Mahomes has lost three Super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mahomes hit a Tiree hill on that it was

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Speaker 4: like third and eighteen and hit an unbelievable bomb. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's like an whole time great play.

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Speaker 3: And that's a little lucky. Let me look at this

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll Patriots.

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Speaker 1: If they run with Marshawn Lynch, Seattle's got two super bowls.

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Speaker 1: I mean that, Yeah, and that disrupted that entire culture.

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Speaker 1: There was so much resentment toward Marshawn Lynch because everybody

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Speaker 1: loved Marshawn and Russell wasn't as popular. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: always said this, Pete Carroll came within one play at US.

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Speaker 1: See if he picks up a first down against Texas,

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Speaker 1: it's like fourth and one and they missed by a

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Speaker 1: helmet and then he gets a touchdown. Look, Pete Carroll's

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Speaker 1: career the closest super Bowl loss and the closest Natty loss.

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Speaker 1: If not for that, and Pete's going to be get

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Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame votes, he'd be a lock to

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Speaker 1: be the Hall of Fame. On one play in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and then in college at USC it's fourth I think

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Speaker 1: it's fourth and one.

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Speaker 3: They don't have Reggie Bush on the field.

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Speaker 1: They give it to Lendale White, and they're a helmet

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Speaker 1: shy of beating a great Texas team.

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Speaker 4: What do they say, close only counts in hand grenades

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Speaker 4: and horseshoes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a Pete Carroll's career. All right, let's move on.

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Speaker 4: To Oh hey, how about this James Cook. We've been

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Speaker 4: talking about him not getting a deal. He got it done.

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Speaker 4: His little hold in or whatever it's called worked. James Cook,

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Speaker 4: the elite running back, got a four year, forty eight

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Speaker 4: million dollar deal, thirty million dollars guaranteed. Congratulations to James Cook.

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Speaker 4: He's the sixth player of the Bills have extended this offseason,

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Speaker 4: including Josh Allen, Russeau, Benford shakir By the way Shakier

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Speaker 4: I love that guy in the slot. Grab him in fantasy,

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Speaker 4: and of course Terrel Bernard the linebacker. Listen, man, Buffalo's

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Speaker 4: got their push, Colin. I don't want to get go

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Speaker 4: overboard here, but I do really believe if Buffalo does

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Speaker 4: not win a Super Bowl, Dick McDermott's out. If the

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Speaker 4: Bengals don't get to the playoffs, their head coaches out.

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Speaker 4: Yet both of them have elite quarterbacks and are on

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Speaker 4: the cusp of greatness. Well that's how close the Shlus

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Speaker 4: things could be.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: Well, remember, really good coaches have been let go Belichick,

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Pete Carroll, oh, Marty Schottenheimer. Really good coaches

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Speaker 1: get let go Chuck Knox. I always said, Sean McDermott

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Speaker 1: is Chuck Knox. If you're older, if you're young, you

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Speaker 1: don't know who Chuck Knox is. Sea Hawks everywhere, Chuck

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Speaker 1: Knox when he was ram, Seahawks, Buffalo everywhere when he won.

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Speaker 1: But in the end, Chuck would get punished because he

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Speaker 1: couldn't win the pow. Marty Schottenheimer, right, So like Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott would be in a list, a long list of great.

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Speaker 1: I mean even in Philadelphia they felt like Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: it'd worn out.

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Speaker 3: It's welcome.

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Speaker 1: So the truth is, it's not a criticism to say

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott needs to win this year. Chuck Knox, Andy Reid, Belichick,

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. I mean, Mike Tomlin's one of the few

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Speaker 1: survivors that we've talked about it before.

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Speaker 3: But the Steelers just don't make coaching changes. So it

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Speaker 3: happened is Tomlins won, Superman.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Great politicians have lost elections, great coaches have been dismissed.

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Speaker 1: It happens all the time in pro football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean again, I think we need to adjust.

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Speaker 4: Like you keep saying, good coach, good regular season, coach,

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Speaker 4: can you deliver.

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Speaker 3: The play No, no, no, no no. He's won playoff games, doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Make you a good coach's winning playoff game? The big

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Speaker 4: ones that you've got to win the Conford Championship?

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Speaker 3: Are you winning that?

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Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson's a great golfer, he wasn't as good as

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Speaker 1: Tiger like nobody's quite. I mean a lot of this

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Speaker 1: stuff is that Buffalo's defense can't make a stop of Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: It's not the Josh Blay's defensive guy. What do you

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Speaker 3: mean one should pay your quarterback a lot of money?

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Speaker 3: You got holes.

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Speaker 1: The holes for the Chiefs have been receiving offensive line

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Speaker 1: been blown out twice as ever robles. The holes for

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Speaker 1: the Bills have been. They've had to let go of

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Speaker 1: some really good linebackers and corners and safeties, so their decisions.

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Speaker 1: They've upgraded their offense but had to let go of defense.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs have upgraded their defense and they've let go

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Speaker 1: of offense. That's why Mahomes's numbers come down. So I'm

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Speaker 1: a big believer. There are these play the Phoenix Suns

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Speaker 1: with Charles Barkley for they were pre Warriors, like they

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Speaker 1: were shooting threes when nobody else was. They were scoring

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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty eight the game. They unbelievele when

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Speaker 1: nobody was scoring one twenty eight, they were dropping one thirty.

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Speaker 1: But Michael Jordan and the Bulls ensured they weren't going

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Speaker 1: to win. The Utah Jazz had great teams and would

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Speaker 1: have two titles without one player. So I've always given

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's well coached, well run, well quarterbacked. Kansas City is

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Speaker 1: decided they are the Tiger Woods of their generation.

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Speaker 4: I would disagree the Buffalo is all that, but they're

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Speaker 4: not that. In January, they were not well coached in

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Speaker 4: that Arrowhead loss when they could not convert all those

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Speaker 4: short yardage situations.

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Speaker 3: That's on coaching.

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Speaker 4: When they got blasted in Kansas City, that was not good. Now,

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Speaker 4: they did get screwed when Mahomes had that unbelievable drive

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Speaker 4: with what like thirteen seconds left to beat them in

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Speaker 4: that one classic, But again it really comes down to

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Speaker 4: a handful of plays and who's better. Mahomes has been

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Speaker 4: better now in the regular season matchup. Remember last year

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Speaker 4: in Buffalo where Josh Allen had the keeper that showed

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Speaker 4: me that in January and get to a damn super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: I mean I need to see in the playoffs. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 4: I'm a jerky.

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Speaker 3: You're very results oriented. No, I'm very processed.

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Speaker 4: Oh stealing my material. Finally we got to go to

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Speaker 4: bow Nick's. We have a new contract here in herdline.

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Speaker 4: Nicks must be in one every single day. Heading into

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Speaker 4: year two with Bo, Nick's expectations are through the roof.

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Speaker 4: You just picked them to win the division. Drew Brees

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Speaker 4: views everything the same way. Anytime you're going into.

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Speaker 9: Your second year, I think is an NFL quarterback, you know,

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Speaker 9: last year probably feels like a blur in a lot

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Speaker 9: of ways, just because, man, you it's a long season.

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Speaker 9: You know, you're ads in the new offense, new speed

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Speaker 9: of the game, just new mode of operation. And so

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Speaker 9: I think for Bo it'll be it'll be a much

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Speaker 9: higher level of comfort.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. Do we have the schedule? Let's put

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Speaker 1: a Denver schedule on the screen just for fun. I

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Speaker 1: want to see Denver schedule because all right, so let's

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Speaker 1: let's look at this Okay home against Tennessee rookie quarterback

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Speaker 1: W Colts quarterback situation at W Chargers game. Let's see

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Speaker 1: Denver led the league in sacks. Chargers have offensive tackle

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Speaker 1: and a line issues. Denver Bengals it home now they

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Speaker 1: do go to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: That's off.

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Speaker 1: But you start looking at that, this is why I

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Speaker 1: picked him to win the division.

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Speaker 3: Start looking at that first seven eight weeks. That's wrong.

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Speaker 1: I mean Dallas at home, Giants at home, Jets, Titens, Colts. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's tough on the back end. It's a lot of

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Speaker 1: w's on that schedule. There's a lot of They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be favored by six to seven points in a lot

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Speaker 1: of the first seven games.

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Speaker 3: Potentially.

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Speaker 4: One of the things you like to do, I think

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Speaker 4: this is smart, is look at the quarterbacks they're facing.

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Speaker 3: You could cover the schedule.

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Speaker 4: I'll name the quarterbacks cam Ward, Daniel Jones, Herbert Burrow, Hurtz,

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Speaker 4: Justin Fields. I'm gonna just play Saint Jackson Dart for fun,

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Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, c J. Stroud, Gino Smith that there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of wins on the schedule.

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Speaker 3: Colin, I got them winning the division. I'm with you, yeah. J. Macklinews, Well, that's.

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Speaker 1: So there's a new Netflix show called America's Team, and

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Speaker 1: you know, cowboy fans get worked up. You know, Colin,

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Speaker 1: you're very negative. Well, I'm negative because of the results.

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Speaker 1: So Jerry Jones now just publicly admitted, which this is

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Speaker 1: Stan Kronk is invisible, owns the rams. He hides from

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Speaker 1: the press, right like hides from it. You don't see

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Speaker 1: Steve Bushati, who's pulling a ton of strings in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Steve on Draft has powers Like Steve Bushatti is all

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Speaker 1: over the Ravens. You never see him. Here's Jerry Jones

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Speaker 1: on what's important when you're an owner.

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Speaker 7: I do believe if we're not being looked at, then

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Speaker 7: I'll do my part to get us looked at. Oh,

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Speaker 7: it's wonderful to have the great athletes, have the great players,

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Speaker 7: but there's something more there there's sezil, there's emotion, and

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Speaker 7: if you will, there's controversy.

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Speaker 3: That controversy is good stuff in.

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Speaker 6: Terms of keeping and having people's attention.

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Speaker 1: What okay that you're treating it like a movie or

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Speaker 1: a toy Like I Again, I've said that Jerry views

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys as a business first, because you if you

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Speaker 1: really think about it, they've had too many good players,

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Speaker 1: too many camp in coaches. They've been two I mean,

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Speaker 1: between Tony Romo and Dak Prescott, those are above average quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: And if you add their careers together, I mean they've

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Speaker 1: had good quarterback play for like twenty years, and yet

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Speaker 1: they have the longest NFC drought getting to the conference championship.

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Speaker 1: Right Like they're they're they're well financed, they've got you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean like the Rams, they got a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: They're quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If I told you there's an NFL team for twenty

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Speaker 1: years and I said, listen, they make a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: They're well financed, they're popular free agents like playing there

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Speaker 1: no state tax.

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Speaker 3: They've had good quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: They had about a six year stretch they had the

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Speaker 1: best offensive line in the game. They've also had elite

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Speaker 1: pass rushers, star running backs, star receivers, one of the

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Speaker 1: all time best tight ends, Jason Whitten, And I said,

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Speaker 1: how do you think that team has done?

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Speaker 3: In turn? You'd be like, oh, okay, they got it.

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Speaker 1: At least two Super Bowl appearances, one win, thirteen division titles.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all the boxes that you would check for

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Speaker 1: this NFL twenty years, A good quarterback play, I'd say,

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Speaker 1: a decade of above average offensive lines at one point

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Speaker 1: best in the league for five year stretch, star running back,

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Speaker 1: star receivers, star tight end, pass rushers, never been a

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Speaker 1: problem with Dallas, and that they have the longest drought

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Speaker 1: in the NFC of getting to the NFC Championship. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd say upstairs has under delivered. On the fields delivered fine.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can criticize Mike McCarthy. All you want,

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Speaker 1: the best Dak Prescott I've ever seen came from Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: and you can bang on Jason Garrett.

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Speaker 3: Jason Garrett won thirteen games.

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott was a rookie from Mississippi State who didn't

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Speaker 1: throw a pretty ball. So Jason Garrett won a lot

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Speaker 1: of games, you know. So, I mean Mike McCarthy won

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Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush. You can blame coaches all you want.

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Speaker 1: In Dallas, you can blame quarterbacks. I'm Tony Romo is

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Speaker 1: one of the more underrated quarterbacks in my lifetime. And

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is overpaid in my opinion. But you get

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Speaker 1: what you get financially, and he's a grown up. He's

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Speaker 1: way better than his career. He's a well known, highly

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Speaker 1: productive quarterback when healthy. He was productive with Jason Garrett.

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Speaker 1: He's productive with Mike McCarthy. I mean, what Jerry just

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Speaker 1: said is what we have speculated, and he just confirmed

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Speaker 1: played that bite again. He had just confirmed what we've

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Speaker 1: all thought is happening in Dallas.

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Speaker 7: I do believe if we're not being looked at, then

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Speaker 7: I'll do my part to get us looked at. Oh,

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Speaker 7: it's wonderful to have the great athletes, have the great

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Speaker 7: players shooting. But there's something more there. There's sizel, there's emotion,

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Speaker 7: and if you will, there's controversy. That controversy is good

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Speaker 7: stuff in terms of keeping and having people's attention.

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Speaker 1: Controversy's good stuff, okay, because Chicago's had a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: Controversy's good stuff for reporters, for podcasters, for Joe Rogan.

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Speaker 1: I mean, wait, controversy is good stuff for Elon Musk's businesses.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I don't even know what has happened.

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Speaker 6: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Hey, we need more controversy on our show call and

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Speaker 4: come

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Speaker 3: On, Jerry said it's good for business