1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: My name is Matt, my name is Noel. They call 6 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Alexis co name Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you. 8 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: You are here. That makes this the stuff they don't 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: want you to know. We have some breaking news here, 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: uh dot, could we get like a breaking news sound cue? Perfectly? Yeah, 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: just so, just so, yeah, this this is going to 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: be a bit of a special edition here. As you 13 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: know longtime conspiracy realist, we typically want to find things 14 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: that are below the fold of your mainstream news, and 15 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff happening, so we always kind 16 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: of go back and forth about the things we would 17 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: like to cover. Today. We are going to do one 18 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: story and it's a story that you have probably heard 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: about if you are in the West, The Great hubbub 20 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: and to do in Hullabalo about balloons, about unidentified flying 21 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: objects being shot down by Uncle Sam. We do want 22 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: to acknowledge before we get into this that there are 23 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: other very real, very provable conspiracies occurring as you hear this, 24 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: particularly on the part of Norfolk, Southern Yes, and the 25 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: companies that ship very noxious chemicals across the United States 26 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: as well as many other countries in the world. Uh, 27 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: there's some really stuff there that it's really a culmination 28 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: of a bunch of different episodes we've talked about, right, 29 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: the toxic chemicals, the transportation infrastructure, and potential attacks on 30 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: that infrastructure. Uh so that's a big topic. We're going 31 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: to cover it. But today we are focusing our eyes upward. Yeah, 32 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: so let's lay out the land here. You have probably heard, Yeah, 33 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: probably you've probably heard about balloons. Let's start there. You've 34 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: you've probably also heard about the the recent attention that 35 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: governments are paying. Now two things that are not verified aircraft, 36 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: right there are airships. Uh you have heard, probably we 37 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: imagine about the balloons sent from China, sent from the 38 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: country of China, whether it's a private entity in that 39 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: country or whether it's the government of China. Uh, someone 40 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: there sent a surveillance craft over the North American continent. 41 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: It went through Canada, it ended up getting shot down 42 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: off the coast of Myrtle Beach in South Carolina. You 43 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: can see some hilarious, uh some hilarious short form social 44 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: media about it. As as the thing gets shot down? 45 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: Can we adthing? Maybe we talk about that a little bit. Yeah, 46 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: let's let's focus on that balloon that the reporting that's 47 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: been done on that, because that occurred, the shootdown occurred 48 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: on a Saturday, right when most people are doing other stuff. 49 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: Unless you're in a hospitality job or another job that 50 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: requires you to be at work on Saturday, you probably 51 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: have the day off. There's at least a high percentage 52 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: of people who officially have the day off on Saturday. 53 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: And when something occurs on a Saturday like that, the 54 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: initial reporting is often if you imagine reporters having to 55 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: go into the office and like to start, you know, 56 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: typing stuff up or you know, from wherever they work 57 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: from home and gather as much info as they possibly can, 58 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: get it up online as quickly as they can. And 59 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: anytime that occurs. To with a story that was as 60 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: large as this one, you have to look really closely 61 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: at various outlets that are talking about it, right because 62 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: many of them are ultimately getting their information directly from 63 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: either the Department of Defense or some other government entity 64 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: that is letting information out. Yeah. And the question that 65 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: I had to was, are these other events, you know, 66 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: associated with the shooting down of that supposed surveillance balloon 67 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: from China connected? Is it just that was the thing 68 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: that triggered people to pay attention and now this other 69 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: stuff is trickling out. It's a real noodle scratcher, a 70 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: real hullaballoon. I want to get into all that stuff. Guys. 71 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how we want to do the structure 72 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: of the like, do we want to focus on the 73 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: the spy balloon first or do we want to talk 74 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: in generalities because there is there is something to what 75 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: you just said. No, this probably doesn't make it on YouTube, 76 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: but in the theater of your mind a new conspiracy realists, 77 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: please know that. Uh, please know that our pal Matt 78 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: Frederick just did some pretty hard air quotes on parts 79 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 1: of these sentences, and you need to be cognizant of that. Uh, Matt, 80 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: how about this, I proposed the following. Let's we we've 81 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: given the basis of what in the news, right of 82 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: what got attention in the news. Uh, And let's having 83 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: established that, let's talk a little bit about some generalities. 84 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: Let's call it uh let's call it background one oh one, right, 85 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: and then we can talk about some stuff over Huron 86 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: and over Alaska, and then maybe we close with with 87 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: some of the other UH bluer beams. Some good guys. Absolutely, 88 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: so let's talk about why this spy balloon was even 89 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: like seen or even a thing of interest to the 90 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: United States military in the government. So a couple of 91 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: the primary talking points that you will hear directly from 92 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: the Pentagon and those who represent it is that the 93 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: US and Nora AD. So like if you think about 94 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: regions of Canada, regions in Europe, they are all now 95 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: paying much more close attention to higher sectors of the 96 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: atmosphere than they normally would have, and they're also paying 97 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: attention to different types of objects that are flying within 98 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: those levels. So if you think about the atmosphere, you 99 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: have to think about something meek Mill once said, there's 100 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: levels to this. There's there's So if you're standing on 101 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: the Earth and you're looking up, first layer you're going 102 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: to encounter is the troposphere, and that goes up to 103 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: a certain level. We can talk about the feet in 104 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: the reporting I was reading about it was in kilometers 105 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: guys um, and I just it doesn't translate in my 106 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: brain because I'm a sadly American. But then above that 107 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: you've got the stratosphere. Above that, you've got the mesosphere, 108 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: and way up above just before you get the space, 109 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: you've got the thermosphere. And the U. S. Government, these 110 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: other agencies, these other militaries are now paying way more 111 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: close attention to stuff that's above commercial aircraft, even above 112 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: the ozone. Yeah. So the for for fellow fans of 113 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: the United States or people who happen to live there, 114 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: the tropisphere is e wrote a. Seven miles from the surface. 115 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: If you're seven miles tall, you are taller than the troposphere. 116 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: The stratosphere is seven to thirty one miles twelve fifty kilometers, 117 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: the mesosphere is thirty one to fifty miles. No one, 118 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: that's all, and the thermosphere is fifty to four hundred 119 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: and forty miles. What you're hearing a lot about is 120 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: the measure of altitude. And we discussed this previously, right 121 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: like why have a balloon when one has satellites? And 122 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: the answer fairly conclusively is to avoid certain types of 123 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: radar and to gather data right or to or to test, 124 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, do a little faint right. That's exactly okay, 125 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: So dude, yes, Ben, right on, Because if you're a satellite, 126 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: you're so much higher us, You're so much further away 127 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: from the Earth. Even if you've got the best optics 128 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: in the world, you can you know, those optics are 129 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: limited by the distance away you are from the object 130 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: you're trying to observe. If talking about political optics, talking 131 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: about lenses now surveillance equipment. But if you reduce that 132 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: distance away by a huge factor, and let's say you're 133 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: flying at forty feet in the air or ft in 134 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: the air, if you've got similar optics, my goodness, you 135 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: can see everything. And you may also have other types 136 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: of imaging like a flear style camera that can see temperature, 137 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: that can see all kinds of stuff like that. You're 138 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: you're doing pretty great. You can get some really intense intelligence, 139 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: some close up stuff. Yeah, I'm gonna go meta with 140 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: it real quick. To take the idea of uh scope 141 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: and optics and what one can see. There's also a 142 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: lot in this conversation about controlling optics, controlling what exists 143 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: in the conversation in the overton window of mass media. 144 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: Now this is not to disparage the people who are 145 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: doing excellent reporting on continuing aerial phenomenon, but this ease 146 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: to say that that aerial phenomenon existed way before the 147 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: three Chinese by balloon incident, as it's being called on 148 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: the battlefield of Wikipedia. And I'm sure that entry is 149 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: pretty nasty right now. If you if you want to 150 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: have fun on any Wikipedia entry, when you pull it up, 151 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: you will see a couple tabs, depending if you're on 152 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: desktop or your smartphone or whatever is whatever you use 153 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: to make yourself easily trackable. Uh, you'll see a thing 154 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: where it says article, and you will see if a 155 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: tab where it says talk if you want, if you 156 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: want to see the juice, go to the talk tab right, 157 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: and that's where you see people bringing heat and debate 158 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: what becomes record. So with this, with knowing that Wikipedia 159 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: is kind of a landline, uh, we do have to 160 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: a stab publish something that a lot of mainstream news 161 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: sources are not saying right now, which is that this 162 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: is not new. This is we were talking about this 163 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: off air today because weirdly enough, folks, we're all still 164 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: friends in our personal lives and we text each other 165 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: weird stuff all the time. And it is it is proven. 166 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: It is known that there is an Illuminati launching balloons. 167 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: There is a cabal and their weather nerds, and they 168 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: launched balloons all the time, and they love to hang 169 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 1: out in front of green screens while gesturing at various 170 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: patterns and how those those are the acolytes. Uh, let's see. 171 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: According to the United States and multiple governments, weather balloons 172 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: are released from like almost a thousand locations. Nine locations 173 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: across the planet are releasing weather balloons twice a day now. Granted, 174 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: the thing from China that got shot down off Myrtle 175 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: Beach was not one of these. It's a very different thing. Right, 176 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: to pretend it was is purposely misleading, But to pretend 177 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: it was anomalous is also It's either it's either cynical 178 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:34,479 Speaker 1: and misleading and purposely deceptive, or it is cartoonishly offensively ignorant, 179 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: Like if you thought that was the first one, how 180 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: can you vote? Like, how do you how do you 181 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: dust yourself? So? Okay, So I would just I just 182 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: have to say, when I initially started reading about it, 183 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: I had thoughts of the old house stuff worksdays of 184 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: learning about weather balloons, and I didn't have all my 185 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: facts straight. So it wasn't out of the realm of 186 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: possibility that it was a weather balloon. I just didn't 187 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: understand a few things. And Ben, somebody shared some information 188 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: with us from the National Weather Service that had some 189 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: very specific things about what these weather balloons do, their capabilities, 190 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: and most importantly, the time that they spend in the air. 191 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: We're just gonna rattle off a couple of these. These 192 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: weather balloons can travel up to a hundred thousand feet 193 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: in the air. That's higher than any of the ones 194 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: that we recently shot down or any of the objects 195 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: that we recently shot down. And uh, they only last 196 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: what I think, Ben, it's two hours maybe roughly how 197 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: long one of these weather balloons stays aloft, And they 198 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: only travel about a hundred and twenty five miles maximum. 199 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: So this weather balloon that was shot down, this thing, 200 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: this balloon that was attached to some stuff from China, 201 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: traveled much further and much longer than a standard weather balloon. Yeah, 202 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: is not the what's a good name for an illuminati 203 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: of weather nerds? Uh? You know, when we say this 204 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: with great affection. But they're illuminoa. Illumino is good. I 205 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: like that. I like that. Aluminora ad nor ads got 206 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: a nice I like that's my favorite. The weatherman. Yeah, 207 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: these are great, These are great. Send us your suggestions overground, 208 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: the weather overground, son of a gun. Okay, so an 209 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: illuminore ad So these uh, these folks are not involved 210 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: with this sort of stuff. We know that. On the 211 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: heels of this being reported, it grabbed the spotlight of 212 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: Western news. Right. Sorry, sorry, thousands dead in Turkey and Syria. Sorry, Ohio, 213 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: there's a balloon and that's what gets the figurative headline. Right. 214 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Oh wait, there's another one, and then another one. Oh 215 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: my god, there's another one. But it's not a balloon. 216 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: And who would have thought? Who would have thought that 217 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: the United States government would come out and have a 218 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: press conference where they say, we promise we don't think 219 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: it's aliens. There's no reason some we got paid. But 220 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: their their language. Oh guys, we're gonna have to pull 221 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: it up and really analyze the full language here. We 222 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: do that towards the end because they are being very 223 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: careful in how they're stating it and it just it. 224 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: I swear it's designed to make people like me go, 225 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: wait a second, what what? It's definitely can't say for 226 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: sure the aliens don't not exist. But didn't they say 227 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: something to the effect of, like, we're not ruling that 228 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: out out or they were asked something pointedly and they 229 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: said they came, yeah, we can't rule that not in 230 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: and then they say, but not it and then then 231 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: they the spider man pointing U but China, uh, you know, China. 232 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: So I'm want to get to one other thing that's 233 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: tangential to the weather balloon phenomena and the reason that 234 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of these objects got shot down at once, 235 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: and why the government is paying attention to these objects publicly, 236 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: paying attention publicly right right on, And we're gonna talk 237 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: about that right after a quick word from our sponsor, 238 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: and we've returned. It's February three, the northern coast of Alaska. 239 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: Not many people visit, uh, and not many people see 240 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: the stuff that goes in the sky. It's something you 241 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: could miss. It's not like it's flying over New York 242 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 1: City or over East Palestine, Ohio. And it's also not 243 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: like the weather balloon they got shot down just six 244 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: days prior to this, because that balloon was huge. The 245 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: balloon was about tall and it was carrying about a ton. 246 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: It was over a ton of payload, so this is 247 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: a big thing. It was white in the sky against 248 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: uh blue background, and you could see it. That's why 249 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: we're talking about. There were images right from just people's 250 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: cell phones where you can see the white dot moving across. 251 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: In this instance, something is much smaller and it's moving 252 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: much slower, which is what I want to get to 253 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: before we even talk about the specifics here, guys. According 254 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: to the d D, one of the other major reasons 255 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: that several of these objects were seen and targeted and 256 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: shot down over this short period of time is because, 257 00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: according to them, they are now also looking at objects 258 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: that move much much more slowly than a bomber or 259 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: a jet fighter or you know, at some other style 260 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: of conventional weaponry that would be in the air. They're 261 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: looking at stuff that just kind of goes across the sky. 262 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: In this case of the February tenth, object, between twenty 263 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 1: and forty miles per hour seems easy to catch up with, 264 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 1: but conventional radar wouldn't have picked that up. It's moving 265 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: too slowly, which is again what you're talking about, Ben, 266 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: They're trying to literally operate over the radar. That's worth it, 267 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: keep it in right, Uh, And of course we have 268 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: to acknowledge that right now, that craft, as well as 269 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: several other craft they are roughly in the same part 270 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: of the world, are UFOs. They are officially unidentified flying 271 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: objects or oh what's the new euphemism U A P. 272 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: But but everybody keeps referring to him as uf knows 273 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: in both the reporting and the freaking government's pointed. Do 274 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: you think that's like a editorial choice, because it seems 275 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: like folks have been using U a P pretty consistently 276 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: for a while. In a couple of um, I guess 277 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: statements that I saw in front of a podium, U 278 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: A P was used, and then UFO is used almost 279 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: everywhere else. I don't know if that's an s e 280 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: O thing just for the reporting to get picked up 281 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: and seen and everybody knows what that is. I don't know. 282 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like that movie where someone's going, stop trying 283 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: to make you a P happen? You know, yes, fetch, 284 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: stop trying to make fetch happen. Mean girls, that's right. 285 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: I think it might have something to do with with 286 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: what we were talking about or alluding to. There's a 287 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: desire for this story in series of stories that that 288 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: is confusing, honestly, Like as we were looking at this 289 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: to talk about it today, it gets super confusing, super 290 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: quick because so much happen in such a short span 291 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: of time, and they're all very similar incidents. So I 292 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: don't know if there's something to it, Yeah, especially considering 293 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: that so many craft of this sort or excuse me, 294 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: unidentified objects of this sort have existed right and have 295 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: gone back and forth over national borders. This is not 296 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: a condemnation of meteorologists, but have gone back and forth 297 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: over borders there doing the same thing that they've done often, 298 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: and now they're being in the news. And one of 299 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 1: the first questions we must always ask ourselves is why 300 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: why are sources focusing on a thing? Right? And it 301 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: can be very strange to recognize when you are in 302 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: an information bubble. And then again, this is not to 303 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: denigrate any of the awesome reporting that's been going on, 304 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: but to your point, Matt Uh, there's a story on 305 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: February tenth, there's a story on February eleven. There's a 306 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: story on February twelve, three days in a row, three objects, 307 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 1: three objects, different ones shot and and they're flying much 308 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: lower than the Chinese balloon, which again whether it's privately 309 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: owned or state owned. We texted G and he doesn't 310 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: know anything about it, and he said that publicly right, 311 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: And he was also like stopped making winning the food 312 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: jokes and were like whatever, l m ao, you guys, 313 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm hearing uh distraction perhaps, I mean again 314 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: my earlier question and to your earlier points, both of you. 315 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: It's not like this hasn't happened more than we're seeing 316 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: it reported. There's just an uptick in reporting. Well, nor 317 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: ad or the US government or the Canadian government hasn't 318 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: been shooting these things down, at least publicly, right. I 319 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: don't think they've been wasting their missiles on anything of 320 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: this sort at all. I mean, really, honestly, um, the differences. 321 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: We are spending significant amounts of money to track these 322 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: things and take them down. Missiles are expensive, is what 323 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: you're getting at are crazy expensive as well your tax 324 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: dollars at work, folks. Sorry, I know some people probably wanted, 325 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, like healthcare or library or food. But but 326 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: don't worry, no, no, no, no, We're gonna spend four 327 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: thousand dollars a pop per unidentified object because we're gonna 328 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: shoot sidewinder missiles at them. And that's how much those cost. 329 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: But it's way more than that. But way, folks, there's more. 330 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: So like. But the thing is also, if you're thinking 331 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: about national defense, is the great Boogeyman and it's superpowers 332 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: to open wallets, right, and and that's why, oh dude, 333 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: let's talk about national defense. Let's talk about why these 334 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: things were shot down, and let's do a little comparison here. 335 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: We talked about a little bit, but let's just make 336 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: sure everybody has a concrete image of the difference between 337 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: these two things and the reasoning behind why they're shot down. 338 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: So that first weather balloon, at least according to the 339 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: government the Pentagon, Uh, the balloon was part of a 340 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: quote fleet of balloons developed to conduct surveillance operations, which 341 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: which have also violated the sovereignty of other countries. So 342 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: that's the reason it got shot down, right, Uh, it's 343 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: a threat because surveillance is being conducted. And that thing 344 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: that got shot down was at about sixty thousand feet 345 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: in the air, sixty to sixty five thousand feet in 346 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: the air, and then comparing it to the February tenth 347 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: UFO that we're talking about here, that one was only 348 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: flying at forty thousand feet. As you said, it was lower, Ben, 349 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: But what's the reason it got shot down? Oh it's 350 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: too dope, sto dope to live. Yeah, it was too cool. 351 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: Other people were looking at it regular boring sky. You 352 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean? It is too dope. Well, i'll 353 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: tell you. I'll tell you the reason given at least officially. Okay, okay, 354 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: because it was flying at forty feet that's in the 355 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: area where commercial airliners fly where if you're in the 356 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: delta flight you're going to be around that, Uh what 357 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: the altitude around that? That's like flight ceiling kind of thing, right, 358 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: civilian flight paths, commercial flight paths. So according to the Pentagon, 359 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: the government whoever was uh this thing quote posed a 360 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: reasonable threat to the safety of civilian flight. That's why 361 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: it got, you know, knocked out, which is also the 362 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: official reason that the US held off on popping the 363 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: first balloon that went viral in the news. Right, they 364 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: waited until over the coast and the rationale being a 365 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: quite reasonable rationale. You don't want to fallout to happen. However, 366 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: these last few incidents have been described in very different terms. Right. 367 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: Definitely probably not inside the bounds of being alien activity 368 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 1: or something, the White House says, but they did describe 369 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: some of the objects. The February tenth object is described 370 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: as about the size of a small car. I guess 371 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: that's a small American car. Well. They also called it 372 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: cylindrical and gray silver or silverish, right, which sounds weird 373 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 1: to me. And that lower flight path is honestly dangerous. Right, 374 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: sixty thousand feet is a pretty high elevation. It's tough 375 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: for other craft to get there. And one of the 376 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: questions that we've been grappling with, and a lot of 377 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: people grappling with, is what does this mean for many 378 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: ufologists just like ourselves, or like our pals that move on. 379 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: This is fascinating because it is not unprecedented, but it's 380 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: quite rare or a government like the United States to 381 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: openly say we don't know. It's so rare, in fact, 382 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: that when you hear the world's most powerful military several 383 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: times over say we don't know, we don't know, so 384 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: we shot it down. When you hear that, it's tough 385 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: to believe them. You know, you're thinking what you do 386 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: with all those billions and trillions of dollars. You don't 387 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: have like one satellite they can look at. You don't 388 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 1: have like one plane that can go see it. That's 389 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: the thing. These fighter jets were scrambled to observe the 390 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: objects each time before that any action was taken, you know, 391 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: to fire upon them. So there must be some kind 392 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: of censored data, some kind of visual data of these things. 393 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: There's gotta be. And we also mentioned they don't all 394 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: have the same shapes, well exactly, they don't exactly. This 395 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: one February tent, cylindrical, silverish gray, uh. It was size 396 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: of a small car. And this is the one that 397 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: was moving really slowly twenty per hour. If you scramble 398 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: a jet to fly by that thing, it's not really 399 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: going that fast. You've got a jet that's going hundreds 400 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: of miles per hour. You can probably slow down a 401 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: little bit. I guess you can't slow down that much 402 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: because it is at fort fet and you gotta have 403 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: to maintain a certain speed if you're that high. But 404 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: still you can get some shots you can figure out 405 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: what it looks like. The second one, they said, this 406 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: one was also small and cylindrical. They referred to it 407 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: as quote smaller in size than the weather balloon from 408 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 1: February four. We also start to see multiple reports of 409 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: passing curves in the US. The idea is that the 410 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: military had some anomalous data and only with the benefit 411 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: of retrospect was able to say, hey, this fits the 412 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: pattern of a high altitude balloon. Just I kid you not. 413 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: Just twelve minutes ago, Al Jazeera reported that Ukraine shot 414 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: down six Russian reconnaissance balloons. To quote Will Ferrell or 415 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: co worker, I guess in Zoolander balloons are so hot 416 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: right now? Did I do that? Is that zoo Lander? 417 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Mogat watched that the other night with 418 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: with my girlfriend and she hated that. She loved it. 419 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: It's pretty great hands hands you just gotta do it, man. Dang, No, 420 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: that's a really good voice. Man, I say, wow, dude, 421 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: please the people. I think he did it. No, I 422 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: think he I think he's got I think he's got 423 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: so ok. So the question here is is this a 424 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: new thing? Right? The idea of the technology behind UM 425 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: a lighter than air balloon is pretty ancient, So why 426 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: all the reporting now, right? Uh? And for fans of 427 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: Santa Claus, know that Norah greenlit the attack on one 428 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: of these objects as it was approaching the North Pole. 429 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: If Christmas doesn't happen, if Christmas doesn't happen, someone caught 430 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: Santa slipping as part of tradition. I mean, Norad has 431 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: done this whole Santa Tracker thing, which is all well 432 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: and good and cute, and then you kind of remember 433 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: that Norad is also like a government agency that might 434 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: not be telling us the truth. And even that Santa 435 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,719 Speaker 1: Tracker things a fun way to distract you from that. 436 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: But you see, Santa move was real fast. If he didn't, 437 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: he couldn't get it done, you know what I mean. 438 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: So like in the Marvel universe, Santa Claus is no 439 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: Omega level mutant for the people can care about that? Awesome, 440 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: I'll see you at the theaters. Let's talk about Nora 441 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: dwar What is it? North America? No, North what is it? 442 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: North American Aerospace Defense Command? Yes, nailed it? Yeah, Okay, 443 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: So NORAD had some interesting things to say about the 444 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: third object that got shot down. Uh, they said quote. 445 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: We did not assess it to be a kinetic military 446 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: threat to anything on the ground nipsis, but it was 447 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: a safety flight hazard and a threat due to its 448 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: potential surveillance capabilities. Huh huh stop, Yes, okay, guys, I 449 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: want to get I want to get into the uber 450 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff here about this because I've there's some things 451 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: we need to talk about. Is there anything else we 452 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: need to describe about any of these? Oh, the UFO three, 453 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: the one we're talking about right now, this is weird 454 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: for me, guys. It was described as an octagonal shape, right, 455 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: Like we said, there were differing shapes. It's not digonal 456 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,239 Speaker 1: shape with some stuff trailing off of it was one 457 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: of the reports, right, And it's flying at twenty thousand feet, 458 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: which is for those of us playing along at home, 459 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: that's forty thou feet lower than the balloon that started 460 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: all the Oki dokin as uh as we talked about 461 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: all fair. You know, I hope you're okay with that, doc. 462 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: I think we all just love that phrase. Uh, let's 463 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that octagonal shape. Does that 464 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: indicate anything in particular to you? Yeah? Not a balloon, guys, 465 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: who makes octagonal balloons. I mean maybe future space balloons 466 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: that we're not aware of yet, but typically balloons need 467 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: to be kind of oval or you know, balloon shapes. 468 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they're making cylindrical balloons now, octagonal balloons. 469 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: I just haven't seen them. They haven't hit the consumer 470 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: market yet because I want those run next party, cool Keith, 471 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: Maybe a k DR octagons again, DOCTR octagon cool Keith, 472 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: you guys, come on, all right, that's for your Keith 473 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: if you hear it. But but so, yeah, these are 474 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: these are solid questions. It's strange how so many stories 475 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: can get maybe a headline or a byline in the news, 476 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: and then others become exhaustively examined with no shortage of 477 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 1: pundit speaking the same talking points with circular tauto logical logic. Well, 478 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: that sounds very cool, Keith, dr octagon Actually, um, so 479 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: the question always has to be why is something being 480 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: covered more so than other things? Right? And perhaps this 481 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: is where we take a pause for a word from 482 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: our sponsors and come back with some with some uber conspiracies, 483 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: as you call them, and we're back. Okay, here goes, 484 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: here goes guys, Well, let's just say it. We're being distracted, right, 485 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: because there's no it feels like there's nothing massively important 486 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: about this for the American people. Is there? Well, possibly, 487 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: you just need more information. Ah, then let's let me 488 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: game that out. Let's say on February four, that Saturday, 489 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: the US shoots down the first weather balloon thing. They 490 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: begin attempting to recover it, the all the debris that 491 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: lands in the ocean, they discover something that is extremely troubling, 492 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: some something that was being monitored by that device attached 493 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: to the balloon that made they gave them such pause 494 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,479 Speaker 1: that oh my god, we gotta shoot these things down. 495 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Now they're tracking X, whatever X is. We gotta take action. 496 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: So for three days in a row, the U. S. 497 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: Military nor at all take action, just shoot these things 498 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: down because now they know what they're doing. Is that 499 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: Do you think there's any potential there? I mean, possibly, sure, 500 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: But there there's a bit of a black box as well. 501 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: So we've established earlier that we know this is different 502 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: from many other balloons. They are launched about twice a 503 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 1: day from n plus locations around the globe, and they 504 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: go pretty high. But the light that burns brightest burns briefest, 505 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: so they've got a lifespan of a little over two hours. 506 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: But we also know that now for some reason, and 507 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: without attributing motive here, now, for some reason, multiple countries 508 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: are reporting multiple balloon or surveillance balloon incursions. Uh. The 509 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: government of China said US design balloons have gone over 510 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: their airspace more than ten times since two. Japan is 511 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: saying that Chinese balloons have gone over their airspace. Saying 512 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: that a country has sent a balloon into your airspace 513 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: is so hot right now. I do want to rewatch 514 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: zoo Lander. That is true. We've we've been looking a 515 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: lot at different news sources for this, just to see 516 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: what people are saying. There are a ton of rumors 517 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: being spread around about at least when I was watching 518 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,280 Speaker 1: Fox for a little while. UH. And the rumors they're 519 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: actually talking my dad about this are that potentially these 520 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: balloons they were flying over the continental US and the 521 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: northern area there there over Canada between you know, around 522 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: the border area, is that they're monitoring on the ground 523 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: the gasoline the oil pipelines that run kind of down 524 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: across the United States. Do you guys think there's any 525 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: possibility to that or if you guys seeing any reporting 526 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: about them possibly basically looking for weak points within the 527 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: infrastructure of the US. Yeah, I mean that's what I 528 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 1: heard that the Chinese balloon was looking for, was weapons 529 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,959 Speaker 1: sites things like that, or weak points in the infrastructure 530 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: and places that would maybe be vulnerable to attack. And 531 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 1: I think we talked about that. We discussed the whole 532 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: balloon being shot down thing on Strange News previously. UM 533 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: as to why you'd use a balloon versus satellite, you know, 534 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: um versus the kind of stuff that we can see 535 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: on Google Maps, even like there was some benefit to 536 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: being able to have such a device travel at a 537 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: lower altitude, whether it was to get closer, you know, 538 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: intel on things that you wouldn't be able to see 539 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: from a satellite photo, which would be things like you're 540 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: talking about, like weak points, entry points, stuff like that. Yeah, 541 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: all right, I'll just say it, you know, and if 542 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, I'm wrong. This feels like there's um, I 543 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: don't want to say smoke at mirrors, but there's some 544 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: smoke and there's maybe a mirror, you know what I mean. 545 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: There's there's a little this been here because again, high 546 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: altitude surveillance craft have been around before. This is not 547 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, the right brothers at Kitty Hawk, This is 548 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: not the first man, This is not your E. Gagarin right, 549 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: or whichever cosmonauts got lost. This is something that has 550 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: happened before, and the question is why is there so 551 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: much focus on it? And why is there um to 552 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: your point, Matt, why is there such why is there 553 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 1: such skullduggery and obtuse reporting here? You know? I would 554 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: also drive everyone's attention to another statement from Nora Ad 555 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: which came out on Gosh, I guess Valentine's Day. In 556 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: the US F sixteens just intercepted Russian bombers near Alaska, 557 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: and they said they weren't a threat, you know, And 558 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: it feels like maybe they were just, you know, out 559 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: shopping for balloons or UFOs and they ran across some 560 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: Russian bombers and then they said, nay, you guys, you 561 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: gotta leave. And the Russian bombers were like, dag you 562 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 1: got us. We weren't even really going in your territory. 563 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: We're just kind of skimming the surface right on the 564 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: edge right there. O. M G. You were looking for 565 00:38:53,800 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: balloons too tight? See those octagons? Man? I mean, that's 566 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 1: that's the question though, And that's a question people ask, 567 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: and it's a valid question, right. I don't think we're 568 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: at the point where we can conclusively say this is 569 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:20,000 Speaker 1: a distraction, but we do have to game out that possibility, 570 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: right if there is, you know, just like we were 571 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: talking about earlier, when something goes viral on social media, 572 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: it's proven. It is known now. Some people did call 573 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: us crazy, but is known now that the architects of 574 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: social media, who do have support from intelligence agencies, can 575 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: and will propagate a viral thing, a fun thing, right 576 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 1: in place of actual news or real events or things 577 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: that don't fit a status quo narrative. So unfortunately, it's 578 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: fair to ask that the next thing we have to 579 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: ask is the real juicy stuff? No, not for anyone 580 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: who hasn't heard the multiple episodes we did about this. 581 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: What is Project blue Beam? Oh, I'm so glad you 582 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: asked been that's my favorite subjects, guys. Project blue Beam 583 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 1: generally involves the use of holograms in the sky, projector 584 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: technology to make it seem like there's either an extra 585 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: terrestrial invasion or a return of religious figures such as 586 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: the prophet Mohammad or Jesus to make everyone across the 587 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: world united in the fact that the way that they 588 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: imagine the world would end is kind of happening. But 589 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: we need to gather together and all be one humanity, 590 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: especially in the event of an alien invasion or attack. Right, 591 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: And I get it wrong? Or is that about I 592 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: think that seems that's sky understanding. It's yeah, it's like 593 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: space force before space force was space force. Yes, guys, 594 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: what worries me about this? If this is some kind 595 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: of you know, dipping dipping the toes into Project Blue 596 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: Beam by shooting down all these UFOs. Uh. Generally in 597 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: these stories, the way it plays out is very Watchman style, 598 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: where there's not just an alien invasion or you know, 599 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: oh wow, UFOs are real in this way, or they 600 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: are extraterrestrial aliens exist. What No, the aliens have to attack, 601 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: They have to be a threat. There has to be 602 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: a show of force, a if you will, nine eleven 603 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: style event that gets the attention of the global populace 604 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,399 Speaker 1: where people die, Manhattan gets flattened. That kind of stuff, right, 605 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: Because if there are entities that exist in terrestrial space 606 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: o beying the laws of physics, as humans understand that 607 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: they will traverse the vast chasms of time and the 608 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: universe to show up and get brought down by a 609 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: side wider. Right, Yeah, that's bad move on their part. 610 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: I want to I want to show you this guy's 611 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: this will be interesting. I'm gonna share a thing with you. 612 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: It's a very easy Google search. You can play along 613 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: at home, folks, fellow conspiracy realists. But pay close attention 614 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: when uh Matt Noe will tell you this because your 615 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 1: mileage may vary by the time this episode comes out here. 616 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: I am sharing it. I hope you can see it, 617 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: so could you. Guys read the search terms and then 618 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: read the top response Project Blue Beam Balloon, and the 619 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: top response is Project Blue Beam us shoots down Mystery objects. 620 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: Oh above that above, and the top result is like 621 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 1: the search tip kind of a Google Hey, are you 622 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 1: sure you didn't mean this kind of vibe, And it 623 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: says it looks like the results below are changing quickly. 624 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 1: If the topic is new, it can sometimes take time 625 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: for reliable sources to publish information. Ah, yeah, it's true. No, 626 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,719 Speaker 1: it's so true. This is a I'm really glad they 627 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 1: do this. I'm really really glad that alphabet decided to 628 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,399 Speaker 1: not be evil in this instance. Check the source, Are 629 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: they trusted on the topic? Come back later. Other sources 630 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: might have more info on the topic in a few 631 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: hours or days, which is exactly what we're doing here, folks. 632 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: Let's get more tips, evaluate info you find with oh boy, 633 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: all right. So this is where this is where we 634 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 1: get to a really interesting place, because if you are 635 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: already given to a certain narrative, then seeing Google or 636 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 1: alphabet right say, check back later, that feels like a 637 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: smoking gun of a cover up, right, rather than some 638 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: sort of attempt to verify and confirm sources. I'm just saying, like, 639 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: how much of that is putting out the fire versus 640 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: throwing gas on the fire? Interesting? I don't know, I 641 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess. I guess it depends on what 642 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: the way your lens is tuned when you when you 643 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: encounter that message. Right. It's very strange, you guys, because 644 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 1: it's just the nature of the speed of these stories 645 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: and occurrences. It feels like it's it feels like that 646 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 1: old trope of getting prepared for the alien invasion, you know, 647 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: letting it sink in it's normalized. Everybody's like, oh yeah, 648 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: they shot down a UFO. Oh yeah, I remember hearing 649 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,480 Speaker 1: about that. Well, what happens when the next one is 650 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: the next UFO they get shot down? Is moving much 651 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: faster and it's the size of I don't know, don't 652 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 1: don't make it metrics. Yeah, I was gonna say, don't 653 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: make a metric system. Man. It was the size of 654 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: a Popeye's and it was moving very rapidly through the air. 655 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: I love that. I love the measurements. So this is 656 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,799 Speaker 1: where we start to ask some hard questions, and there 657 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: are questions that we would love your help with, folks. Now, 658 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: of course, there are many many other things going on 659 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: in the world today, but that's part of what Matt, Noel, 660 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: Doc Holiday and I are asking, and we hope you're 661 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: asking it too. Why is there so much coverage about 662 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: this with so few real answers? And will those answers 663 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 1: be forthcoming? What else is happening in the world? Uh? 664 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: And what do you think about these things? Have you 665 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 1: seen unidentified aerial phenomenon in your neck of the global sky? Um? 666 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: What you wanted just all about is yeah? Is it 667 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: a clear and present danger? Is it bread and circuses? 668 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: Is it a reason to justify the new budgets for 669 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: monitoring the skies in this way. Yeah, Eisenhower. I think 670 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 1: it was Eisenhower who said, every this i'll represents a 671 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: library that could have been built, or a school or 672 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: a hospital. All right, well, hey, you can find us 673 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: online everywhere. 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