1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Suxton Show Podcast. Third hour of Clay and Buck starts now. 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody, Thank you for being here with us, and 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: we got breaking news for you right off the top. 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: The Fed has raised interest brave. This is something that 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: might come as a surprise to some. It seemed that 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: there was a pushback against this because of the banking issues. 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: But the headlines here are FED raises ran FED raises 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: rates amid banking turmoil by a quarter point. So it's 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to balance the inflation fight 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: with the well, weakness in the bank is structural weakness 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: within the banking industry, which is all tied to FED 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: policy and what they've been doing now stretching back for 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: over a decade. You know, Clay, there's a lot. First 15 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: of all, I would just note that even earlier today, 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: former Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd blank Fine was saying the 17 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: Fed shod not raise raids. Listen to this personally, I 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. The deleveraging effect of all this, the 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: less lending, the more conservatism, the accumulation by financial institutions 20 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: of capital that's highly deflationary, there's going to be less lending. 21 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: The effect of all that is at least is great, 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: probably greater than a fifty basis point raise at this point. 23 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: If I were a FED, I would pause and I'd say, 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, we're doing that because financial conditions have been 25 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: substantially tightened by this. Two weeks ago, we didn't contemplate 26 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: the events that we're witnessing. Now this is a new factor. 27 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: It's highly deflationary and deleveraging. This is more than a raise. 28 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Let's pause and how this works its way through the system. 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: But we're going to be ever vigilant. YadA YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA, YadA. Okay, 30 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: I'll let your throws. He's like, yeah, you know, the 31 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: FED say a bunch of nonsense about it. It'll all 32 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: be fine. That's the former Goldman sax ceo. Guy's worth 33 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions of dollars, maybe more than that now. 34 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: But you know, Clay, he's talking about it being deflation Okay, 35 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: So he's worried about a FED raise, which has just happened. 36 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: He spoke obviously before the twenty five point twenty five 37 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: point race, and he's worried about what will happen with 38 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: less lending. Right, this is where you have all these 39 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: forces that they think that they can control. You got 40 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: to bring down inflation because as we all know, this 41 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: just means the dollars in your bank account and everything 42 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: you're buying is getting getting more expensive. But now he's saying, 43 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: if you have less lending, you'll have deflation, lower consumer spending, 44 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: and less economic growth, including things like layoffs, salary reductions, 45 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: drop in demand. So it looks like the soft landing 46 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: scenario here for the economy. I don't think there is 47 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: a soft landing scenario. I think things are gonna get rough. 48 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: Here's an easy way to think about this, and I 49 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: know a lot of you out there have four oh 50 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: one k's. You might be retired living on fixed incomes. 51 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: If you had bought stock the day that Joe Biden 52 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: walked into the White House, let's say you went and 53 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: bought the DAL Let's say you went and bought the NASDAC, 54 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: the S and P five hundred, you have lost money, 55 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: not even factoring in inflation. So if you just bought 56 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: on the day Joe Biden, I think it was January twentieth, 57 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: was inaugurated in twenty twenty one, and you are now 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: sitting you know, at twenty six months into the Biden administration, 59 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: you've lost money. That doesn't happen very often, Buck, And 60 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: now twenty twenty three is not looking great. As we 61 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: come up on the end of March and we're a 62 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: quarter of the way through this calendar year, I think 63 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: the likelihood is at the end of twenty twenty three 64 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: you are still going to be negative. And that doesn't 65 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: even factor in the massive increase in inflation, which is 66 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: devalued everybody's dollars, whether you invest, whether you have any 67 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: sort of retirement accounts for oh one K pensions, anything. 68 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's handling of the economy has been a disaster. 69 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: And to tie this in with the conversation that we 70 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: have been having about Trump versus DeSantis twenty twenty four, 71 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: Democrats have chosen their candidate. You watched Game of Thrones, 72 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: They have picked their combatant, right, they have put Joe 73 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: Biden into the center of the ring. I went to 74 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: the coliseum. We know who their gladiator is and it 75 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: ain't a very strong gladiator, right. It's a guy who 76 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: could probably barely lift a sword, certainly couldn't put on 77 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: his own armor. This is a flawed fighter. My concern 78 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: is if Trump is not a discipline candidate, Joe Biden's 79 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: not even going to talk about anything he's done for 80 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: four years. All he's going to talk about is I'm 81 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: not Trump. His entire campaign in twenty twenty was I'm 82 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: not Trump, and so this should be almost every time 83 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: we have an incumbent president, what is the election a 84 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: referendum on how did the incumbent president do? By all measures, 85 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Joe Biden has been a disaster two and a half 86 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: years into his tenure. But if he gets to run 87 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: on I'm not Donald Trump, those same idiots who showed 88 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: up and voted for him once before, I'm afraid they 89 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: might do it again. That's why Trump has to be 90 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: able to make the case not only about what he's 91 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: going to do, but why everything Biden has done is wrong. 92 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: The economy is going to play a major role, as 93 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: we all know, in the next election. It's interesting, though, 94 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: to see, based on the last election, there was this 95 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: perception that inflation wasn't really Joe Biden's fault, which I 96 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: think was a I think was wrong. I mean, it's 97 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: not all his fault, but he's in charge and did 98 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: things to make a problem worse. And the only way 99 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: you can have the obvious part of this is the 100 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: first one point nine trillion dollars of spending right when 101 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: he comes into office, and that was just that was 102 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: totally excessive, even with what we had seen during COVID previously. 103 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: That was that was reckless. I mean, that was going 104 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: really above and beyond the stupidity meter. And yet we 105 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: doubt with the consequences of it economically, people saw the 106 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: worst inflation in forty years, but Joe Biden wasn't held 107 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: responsible for us. You always have to remember there's there's 108 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: right the reality of what the economy is and what 109 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: is happening, and there is the response of individuals in 110 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: the electorate to that and their sense of who's responsible 111 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: for it, and that's not always the same thing. So 112 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: I try to remind people it is an absolutely true 113 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: statement that if the economy is very weak, even perhaps 114 00:06:55,200 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: even in a recession next year Joe Biden, that going 115 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: to affect the president's presidential election a lot. But is 116 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden going to be blamed for it? Or are 117 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: we gonna be told it's the Trump and blamed by 118 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: the electorate enough, right, or we're gonna be told it's 119 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: the Trump tax cuts and the fat cats are getting 120 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: rich and all the all the stuff. You always have 121 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: to remember he has a ten to one advantage in 122 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, propaganda and media artillery pieces that he can 123 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: put on the battlefield just in sheer numbers. Right, Yeah, 124 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: we're better. We're smarter and handsomer clay than those libs 125 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: out there, you know. And yeah we got we got 126 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: Tucker and Hannity, and you know, we've got these these 127 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: big names, big voices out there who can who can 128 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: move the needle. But they just have so many more 129 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: that they're able to convince people through sheer repetition and 130 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: force of propaganda that somehow, you know, the economy is 131 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: getting better because of Biden, even though it's not good, 132 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: and it's really the Fed's fault slash Trump's fault, and 133 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be all these pivots. So I'm just trying 134 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: to say it's not enough. It wasn't enough in twenty 135 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: twenty two that inflation was super high. It's you know, 136 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: we can't just say, well, they're going to blow up 137 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: the economy and therefore Biden will be held and the 138 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: Democrats will be held responsible. No, they'll just lie there. 139 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: The Democrats are the kid that drops the platter full 140 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: of food at Thanksgiving, shatters it everywhere, and points at 141 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: the poor little dog in the corner and says it 142 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: was his fault. That's who they are. It's a good analogy, 143 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: and that's why I think that the argument has to 144 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: be this is a referendum on Joe Biden, and as 145 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: we play out through twenty twenty three, I would just 146 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: encourage everyone. I think the Santis tried to do this 147 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 1: in his interview with Piers Morgan. He said, I'm running 148 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: against Joe Biden, and he said I think I would win, 149 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: and I think it de Santis is right, and I 150 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: think Trump would win two. I think whoever wins the 151 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: Republican nomination will beat Biden. But it has to be 152 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: an attack on Biden, and we have to ensure that 153 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: this election is a referendum on the incumbent and not 154 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: a referendum on what happened in twenty twenty And my 155 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: concern with Trump is Trump makes it hard for the 156 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: story not to be Trump. And we were talking about 157 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: this earlier, and I think it's such an interesting question 158 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: for all of you to contemplate. Trump definitely motivates a 159 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: lot of voters who otherwise would not show up, who 160 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: are Republicans, to come out and support him. How many 161 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: Democrats does he similarly motivate? And what does that look 162 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: like on the ledger? Because we had what one hundred 163 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: and fifty six million people or some odd or some 164 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: such show up and vote Buck in twenty twenty according 165 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: to the tallies, roughly, how many of those people would 166 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: show up and vote if it were Joe Biden versus 167 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: Ron De Santis in twenty twenty four, how many would 168 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: show up and vote if it was Ron De Santis 169 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: against Kamala Harris. Trump motivates turnout, He makes people care. 170 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: CNN just hit a thirty year low I saw in 171 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: primetime viewership Buck because Trump isn't around anymore, and so 172 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: who is going to make the best case against Biden? 173 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: And I just want to keep hammering this home because 174 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: I think it's an incredible advantage. We know who the 175 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: Democrats are putting forward as their combatant. It is Joe Biden. 176 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: If you think about what Democrats did in twenty twenty, 177 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: they looked at all of their contenders, and they said, 178 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: let's pick the guy who is most likely to beat Trump, 179 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: and they picked Biden. And they ended up being right 180 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: because they said Scranton, Joe's gonna have enough appeal in 181 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: the Midwest to flip Pennsylvania, to win Michigan, to flip 182 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: to flip Wisconsin, and hold on to every other state, 183 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: and it ended up being true. So my question for 184 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: all of you out there is, if you know the pick, 185 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: and the pick is Biden, I want all of you 186 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: to just be aggressive in your thought process as you 187 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: contemplate all of the candidates and think to yourself, who 188 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: is the guy who would most likely or girl who 189 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: would be most likely to beat Joe Biden head to 190 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: head one on one, Because that's an advantage. If you 191 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: knew who you were going to be playing in the 192 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you could pick a team that matched up 193 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: well with the Super Bowl contender, right. That's why typically 194 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: when you're in a playoffs scenario, both teams don't find 195 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: out who they're going to go up against till the 196 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: last minute, and then you have to contemplate. I think, 197 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: what will be different for Trump to beat Biden in 198 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four That wasn't the case in twenty twenty. 199 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Biden's been awful. That's true. COVID is not an issue anymore, 200 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: that's true. Is that enough to get Trump over the line. 201 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what twenty twenty three is all about. 202 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: Twenty four is gonna be interesting, It's very true. 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Wireless 234 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: restrictions apply. C site for details. Truth after Truth, you 235 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: can handle the truth. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Welcome 236 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. So many different 237 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: moving parts out there. Donald Trump has really continued to 238 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: weigh in on Ron de Santis. We started off the 239 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: show talking about de Santis in an interview with Piers 240 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: Morgan taking some shots for the first time directly at 241 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But now Trump has fired back in the 242 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: last forty five minutes or so at Ron de Santis. 243 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: Here is Trump's two most recent truth social posts. While 244 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm fighting against radical left lunatics, persecutors and unfair prosecutors 245 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: who want to destroy us all round. Sanctimonious is not 246 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: working for the people of Florida as he should be. 247 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: He's too busy chatting with the Ratings Challenge TV host 248 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: from England, desperately trying to rescue his failing campaign. But 249 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: it's my fault. I put him there and then it 250 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: continues buck Rond. Sanctimonious is running without running. He's doing 251 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: this to subvert election law. Run Ron run. Others have 252 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: done it before, so I can't really blame him. But 253 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: he should take a look at his polls, which are 254 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: crashing like few people have seen before. That's because he's 255 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: merely an average Republican governor who has great public relations, 256 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: far better than deserved. When you look at the Florida 257 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: numbers compared to other states, you will not be impressed. 258 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: I will release them later in the day. That is 259 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: the most recent That was ten minutes ago from Trump 260 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: taking shots at Rohn de Santis from his Truth social platform. Me. Okay, 261 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: can I just ask you, this isn't Piers Morgan like 262 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: a friend of Trump's. I mean, didn't he win the 263 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: first Celebrity Apprentice or the first Apprentice? Maybe it wasn't 264 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: even celect. I think they used to. I think they're 265 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: kind of frenemies, maybe because the Piers Morgan had the 266 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: interview with Trump at Marlago that remember they had the 267 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: teaser where he tried to make it look like Trump 268 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: stormed off and then yeah, but that was I mean 269 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: Trump has forgiven people for far more get him that. 270 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, So, um, I thought I thought 271 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: they were I thought they were kind of tight. I 272 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: just think it's kind of funny that he's he's taking 273 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: a shot at Piers Morgan. I think he's read he 274 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: said at the bottom that I put him there. I 275 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: think refer Yeah, but it's my fault I put him there. Um, 276 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: meaning Piers Morgan is famous. I guess because of Trump, Right, 277 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: that's the implications probably what he's trying. Trump would basically 278 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: be saying the reason why Pierce Morgan and Ron de 279 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Santists both are famous. Is because of Trump? That's exactly 280 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: what I was gonna say that, because that's totally true. 281 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: Like everyone that Trump comes into his contact with, he's like, 282 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: well I kind of made you so oh man, that 283 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: that is. That is a funny one. Um as for though, Okay, 284 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: now let's turn to the sort of to the substance 285 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: of it. He's merely an average Republican governor who has 286 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: great public relations. Okay, De Santist camp is going to 287 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: Turroun and say, average Republican governor, when was the last 288 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: time eight hundred thousand people moved to Florida and and 289 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: did so specifically because of the policies of a sitting 290 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: governor In an overwhelming number of cases, it's just never 291 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: hop before. Yeah. So and this is again. They're the 292 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: places where you're gonna say, look, I mean, it's it's 293 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: like we're calling a boxing match, right, I mean, if 294 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: someone gets hit with a jab, or you know, someone 295 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: lands a good right cross or whatever, the announcers are 296 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: all like, wow, oh look at that one. If you 297 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: swing and you miss, it's a whiff. And some of 298 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: these I think are gonna be a swing and a miss. 299 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: I think this one falls into that into that category. 300 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: I mean again, I'm I'm here in Florida, and I 301 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, so I can speak to this with some specificity. 302 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: It's full of people. Everyone you meet who moved your 303 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: clay in the last three years is like, I love 304 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: what's going on in Florida. And Governor to Santacisco has 305 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: done an amazing job. People. By the way, people love 306 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: Texas because Texas is awesome. They don't move to Texas, 307 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: and they don't love Texas because Governor Abbott is so awesome. 308 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: Not not to be you know, rude to Governor Abbot, 309 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, you know, he's been fine. But 310 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: there's a there is a tie into de Santis in 311 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: Florida that's a little bit different. I think it's hard 312 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: to attack run de sciantist based on his Florida record. 313 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: I think that's a really weak angle for Trump. I 314 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 1: think he could go after him as being the rhino right, 315 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: like the preferred candidate of the establishment. 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Well, 332 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: there's a story that I'm just seeing here for on 333 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: the Daily Mail, MMA fighter turned security guard and the 334 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: quote here is averted another Pulse mask shooting like the 335 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: Pulse night club, by disarming a man in a devil 336 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: mask as he tried to storm a strip club in Tampa, 337 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: according to Tampa Police. So this happened over this happened 338 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: over the weekend. I'm just seeing the report now, and 339 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: they had a security guard who's also an MMA fighter. 340 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: Good for you know, that's a good basis for a 341 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: security guard saw this. The guy was incoherent, he was 342 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: wearing a devil mask, and he had the words kill 343 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: and dark written on his arms, and he had a 344 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: loaded handgun and tried to run into the strip club 345 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: with the loaded handgun. Now, there may there may be 346 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: additional details. The guy, you know, who knows, maybe he 347 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: had a beef with somebody inside or you know, they 348 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: The headline here on the Daily Mail is Averted another 349 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: mass shooting. We can't I don't think we can know 350 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: that right now, but certainly a guy with a devil 351 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: mask running with a loaded handgun through security at a 352 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: strip club is something that you would want to be 353 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: addressed right away. And it looks like this guy may 354 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: have certainly stop somebody from getting shot, right that. That 355 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: seems to be. That's a reasonable implication that a guy 356 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: who tries to run past security with a loaded handgun 357 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: and a mask on has ill intent. I bring it 358 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: up because um Clay, you know, in the in the 359 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: state of Florida, a lot of bringing this back to 360 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: Florida conversation, and I would I would assume this is 361 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: also true for people in Texas and in Tennessee. There's 362 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: an assumption that if you are acting in good faith 363 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: and defending yourself or others, not only are you going 364 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: to be treated fair early by the system, you might 365 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: even be praised by the system. You might be thank 366 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: you for averting you know, self defense. And in a 367 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: whole lot of cases, whatever it may be, self defense 368 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: in Red States, when it is lawful and reasonable, is 369 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: not only defended, it is praiseworthy. There is a very 370 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: widespread perception now that self defense under certain circumstances, and 371 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: depending on who the defendant or the assailant may be, 372 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: and the politics around this, the races of the individuals involved, 373 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: that self defense will not be treated especially if self 374 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: defense involving a fire um obviously brings in a lot 375 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: of politics right away, but will not be treated fairly. 376 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: And this brings you back to we have it up 377 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: at Clay and Buck Dot and basically this MMA fighter 378 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: security guard guy in Tampa. You know he's going home 379 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: with a with a high five and a stake and 380 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: a thank you for you know, probably saving some lives here. 381 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: He's not worried about getting you know, oh, the DA 382 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: thinks that he used excessive force by twisting the guy's 383 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: arm or something. You know that no one expects that 384 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: to happen because it's Florida. If we're New York, I 385 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,880 Speaker 1: don't know, might be a different situation in New York. 386 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: There's this video it's up at clayonbuck dot com, and 387 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: you have a black man who is in the worst 388 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: and most and by the way, if you go see it, 389 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: you know Clay saw it. It's it's tough to watch 390 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: because he's verbally abusing a kid in front of his parents, 391 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: and that really gets people's That really fires people up. 392 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: I mean it fires up parents and nonparents. It's just 393 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: there's something deeply grotesque and wrong and evil about threatening 394 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: a child, and threatening a child in front of their parents, 395 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: and the huge debate that has broken out. And I've 396 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: just mentioned the online at clayinbuck dot com so you 397 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: can see it. It's just it's tough to watch and 398 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of curses. We can't play it on 399 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: the air. It's basically almost all curses from this guy. 400 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: But Clay all these people you know there. There were 401 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: initially a few folks were weighing in on this online. 402 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: They're saying, you know, why didn't the dad get up 403 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: in this guy's face, Why didn't you do something? And 404 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: the amount of people who said, with that Democrat DA, 405 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: with this Democrat system in New York, if there was 406 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: any if there was any attempt by the father to 407 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: defend himself, even verbally and then it got physical, wouldn't 408 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: be able to get treated fairly by the system, and 409 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: it might be the dad and handcuffs. By the way, 410 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't think this is just theoretical. Remember the the 411 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: Delhi um, the Delhi employee or the you know, the 412 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: employee who at the steed himself, a convicted felon a 413 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: black guy in this case, came up and started trying 414 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: to beat this guy senseless behind the counter, and he 415 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 1: defended himself with a knife. They charged him with murder 416 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: to get illegal in these Democrats dates sorry immigrant in 417 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: the bodega who defended himself and was initially charged with 418 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: murder by Alvin Bragg if I remember correctly. And then 419 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: the mayor of New York came out and said, I 420 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: don't think this is the right decision to make, and 421 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: then they ended up eventually letting him out of prison, 422 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: and I think they dropped the charges if I'm not mistaken. 423 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah what what Brad? That's correct? What Brad? And we 424 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: we hit that. We hammered that on this show. I mean, 425 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: and we we got people all over New York listening 426 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: on wr NYC, and we were hammering that story because 427 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: it was a it was a it was all on video, 428 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: the whole thing, every aspect, which makes me wonder, Buck, 429 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: what would happen if Mayor Eric Adams came out and said, 430 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't think Trump has committed a crime based on 431 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: what evidence that I've seen. I don't think Alvin Bragg 432 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: should bring charges against him. I mean, he won't do 433 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: that for political reasons. I mean, but what what if 434 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: he's thinking on a broader scale, like trying to make 435 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: a play because he's already been elected mayor of New 436 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: York City. I'm just because the reason the read you 437 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: made me think of it, Because the reason this guy, 438 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: the Dominican guy who get lost finally had charges with 439 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: deduced against him was, I really believe because the mayor 440 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: spoke out and said, this is ridiculous he had a 441 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: right to defend himself and the mayor. Obviously, as a 442 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: former police officer who would have experience in this situation, 443 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of tossing that out there as a 444 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: trial balloon. What would happen if Eric Adams did that too, 445 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg's case would have disappeared. Just kind of thought 446 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: balloon that second part here. As a parent, I watched 447 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: this video and this guy who is braiding there's a dad, 448 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: what appears to be a mom and a kid between 449 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: them and some of the most vile language you can 450 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: imagine on a subway, and so, like many parents, I 451 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: think hispanic. Yeah, yeah, um. My assumption if I were 452 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: the dad there is, I wouldn't even be worried about 453 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: the self defense angle. My thought is, this guy is 454 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: crazy and he probably is armed. Maybe it's not with 455 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: a gun, but it's probably with a knife, and if 456 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: I stand up and engage in an altercation with him 457 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: at all, I might get killed. And so while until 458 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: there's actual physical violence, like I understand it's unacceptable to 459 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: yell and scream at families, curses, slurs, all those things. 460 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: It shouldn't happen regardless of your background, but for me, 461 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: until there was a moment where I felt like physical 462 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: violence was going to happen. I would try to avoid 463 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 1: accelerating that situation because I would think this guy's going 464 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: to have a weapon and he's going to attack me 465 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: and or my family with it. Now, I think there's 466 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: a very good chance that the individual in this video, 467 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: and you know these kinds of it's a verbal assault, 468 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: that he's committed. You're actually not allowed to say, you know, 469 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna attack you, or you know, 470 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: make someone. You can't make someone credibly fear for their 471 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: safety because you feel like, kid, there's AsSalt and battery. 472 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: Battery would be the actual you know, punching, grabbing, physically 473 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: going after somebody. But this is far too common. I mean, 474 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: this is something I've experienced many times in New York City, 475 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: where there are individuals who feel completely free and protected 476 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: to say whatever they want to verbally attack people, to 477 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: threaten them, and often to yell racial slurs at white people. 478 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: This is what this is what happens in the city. 479 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: You know that you're you know, I'm not gonna quote obviously, 480 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: but they yell things racist abuse at at white people 481 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: or whomever. And obviously this has happened to Asians too. 482 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: It's happened to Asians a lot in New York City, 483 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: and there was that whole stop Asian hate campaign that 484 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they stopped the stop Asian hate 485 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: campaign because they didn't like the demographics of who was 486 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: engaging in most of the assaults against Asians. You remember 487 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,239 Speaker 1: this too, So disappeared. So we're just disappeared. And so 488 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: you sit here and you say, when people in a 489 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: city feel like the system stands with those who verbally 490 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: threaten and menace parents with their small child on the subway, 491 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: there's something deeply wrong with that system. Whether it's New York, 492 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, you know, Houston, you name it, any well. 493 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: I don't think this has happened in Texas, but in 494 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: other you know, in other states, in blue states in particular, 495 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: Democrat rule means if if criminals want to menace you, 496 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,360 Speaker 1: if lunatics want to frighten you, you have to deal 497 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: with it because if you get up in their face 498 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: and you know, you end up hurting them before they 499 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: can hurt you, or if there's an exchange of fists 500 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: or worse, you're probably going to prison, because those are 501 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: the politics involved. That's true. And I also think the 502 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: fact that this occurred on a subway factors in. Because 503 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: you can't go anywhere right, you're effectively hemmed in. And 504 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: it's just further evidence. The last time I was there, 505 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: what do we got our producer Alis saying that this 506 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: guy people have recognized him. Now there are other videos 507 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: where he just does this on the subway, and he 508 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: does it he yells at Asians, Hispanics and white people 509 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: racist abuse and just goes off on them over and 510 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: over again. This is what I hope they can figure 511 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: out who this guy is. But this is why the 512 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: most recent time I was in New York, I told 513 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: my wife, don't even consider getting on the subway. Never 514 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,479 Speaker 1: said that before. I've been in New York a lot 515 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: of times over the years, and I think there are 516 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there listening to us right 517 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: now that have made the same choice. And this is 518 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: what happens when you allow cities to become in many 519 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: ways lawless. Yeah, And I can say everything from countless 520 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: hours on the New York City subway and then being 521 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: a person who didn't want to spend time on them 522 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: anymore myself, Clay. It's not necessarily that you're going to 523 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: be physically assaulted, but the chance of you having an 524 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: ugly incident where some lunatic is demanding money or that's 525 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: actually quite high. You know. The chance that you're going 526 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: to be verbally assaulted by somebody these days, walking around 527 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: New York City is unfortunately, if you walk around enough 528 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: and you're un enough subways, and it's true a lot 529 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: of these cities. So something has to change here, folks 530 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: want to change gears here and talk about Preborn for 531 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: a moment. There are a lot of nonprofit organizations that 532 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: mean well, and there's some that have the track record 533 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: of success in their purpose. Preborn Network of Clinics is 534 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: one of those organizations that are truly impactful. 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We'll take a couple of your calls 559 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: here as we close out the program, but also want 560 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: to have some fun four day work week talk. I 561 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: don't know that's gonna happen, Buck, but it is kind 562 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: of interesting how every now and then you hear this 563 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: kind of sneaking up, this idea of being able to 564 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: get four days of work. Here's a question for you. 565 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: What percentage of employees if you told them you don't 566 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: have to work if you get your work all done 567 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: by Thursday, do you think could get all their work 568 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: done by Thursday if the reward was you don't have 569 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: to come in at all on Friday. I think absolutely, absolutely, Yep. 570 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: I think a huge I think people could definitely get 571 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: it done. And I think that if you told government employees, 572 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: I would tell you this right now. Yeah, no doubt. 573 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: If you told govern employees that they Because there's something 574 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: in the federal government thing it's called super flex or 575 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: something like that. It sounds like like a protein shake, 576 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: but it was it allowed people in the federal government service. 577 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: I think they had to get like manager approval you 578 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: could do like a sixteen hour day. Yeah, and then 579 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: that was considered you know, a day of basically you 580 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: had a day in the bank and you could just 581 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: not come in the next day, which I think is awesome. Yeah, 582 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: Flex work I think would be tremendous, and I think 583 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: there's a huge percentage of people that would be far 584 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: more effective if they took that opportunity. Let's dive in, 585 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: let's close out with some calls. Scott in Utah, what 586 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: do you think? So? I want to get to the 587 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: desantist quote unquote hitting back story. But first of all, 588 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 1: what everybody needs to understand is there is no guarantee 589 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: in my mind at all that Biden is going to 590 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: be a president. And about a month or so ago, 591 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: you guys were talking about Biden versus Trump. If either 592 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: one of those guys drops off and they're running against 593 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: a younger or vibrant person, that could be an issue. Okay, yeah, 594 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: So sorry, when you say you don't know that you 595 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 1: believe Biden's going to be the nominee, do you mean 596 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: because of his physical health and something happening to him 597 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: or do you mean because Democrats decide he's not the guy. 598 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: I think it's both likely, it's both, but I think 599 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: already that's a great point. There is just as many 600 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: people out there, if not outwardly saying that, are that 601 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: are talking about it behind the scenes, sing he's obviously 602 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: not the best candidate we could have. So you think, 603 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: can I just be clear, you think that Biden's not 604 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: actually going to be the Democrat nominee running again. I 605 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: can't imagine. I can't imagine they run this guy who 606 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: can't even get it campaign get it, Scott. I could 607 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: imagine that the first time. That's what I would be 608 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: stunned if he's not the nominee. Now he's eighty years old, 609 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: so eighty year olds can have all sorts of significant 610 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: health related issues in the remainder of twenty three or 611 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: into twenty four. That could certainly happen, but I think barring. 612 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look, they elected John Fetterman and he immediately 613 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: checked himself into the hospital and he's vanished for the 614 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: first three months of his tenure as a senator. So 615 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: you don't think they would just hide Joe Biden in 616 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: some hospital somewhere, even if he wasn't healthy enough to 617 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: do the job. I would just be stunned if he's 618 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: not going to be the pick y Vaughn in Hermosa Beach, Floria, 619 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: Yvon what you got for us? Hey? Um, I have 620 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 1: two things. First off, Trump and de Santist would be 621 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: the ticket just for the record, that would be the ticket. 622 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: And I don't I love the Santist, but I don't 623 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 1: think that he is quite up for the job yet. 624 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: And you know, we as Republicans and conservatives, we need 625 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: to do what the Democrat to do, and that is 626 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: lock in lock step. And yes, our President Trump, he 627 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: says things he shouldn't say, but Doug Gonna do we 628 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: have to be so word sensitive. I mean, the man, 629 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: the man did the job he and he knows more 630 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: now than he ever did about the people that are 631 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: in office now, and that the Senators, the congressman, the 632 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: dirty people. I mean, he is the man. I'm telling 633 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: you he is the man. He didn't even take a 634 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: paycheck when he was running, right he looked. I mean 635 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: he may well be the man. Absolutely. Look this is 636 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,919 Speaker 1: if you look at the I just sent the team 637 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: a pole here. Thank you for calling in a sent's 638 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: even pole. Monmouth twenty twenty four forty one percent, Trump 639 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: twenty seven percent to Santists three percent Nicky Hilly. That's 640 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: the top three. So it's Trump fe de Santists. But 641 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: Trump way ahead right now. So there's that. There's that 642 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: for sure. And the poles have been moving let's be fair, 643 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: in the last six weeks or so in Trump's direction, 644 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: I mean he has been last couple of months gaining strength. 645 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: Since the midterms, He's continued to grow and DeSantis has 646 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: slipped back a little bit. Now, there's a lot of 647 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: positive momentum, the Santis wins in November, very many positive stories. 648 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 1: We'll see if DeSantis ends up announcing how that changes 649 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: and when they officially get in the ring together. What 650 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: that Donnybrook looking away, It's gonna be quite a throwdown, 651 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: and we're honored to be able to talk to all 652 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: of you about it as it plays out over the 653 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: next year. Gonna be a lot of twist and turns. 654 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: It will be an exciting journey. And thank you for 655 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: being with us as we all go along.