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Speaker 2: What's up? Guys?

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Speaker 3: Welcome into a brand new episode of Chargers Weekly, as always,

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Speaker 3: joined by Matt Bunny Smith. Is we get closer the

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Speaker 3: training camp still a few weeks away?

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Speaker 2: Money? How was your fourth of July. There's a new

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Speaker 2: platform called Threads.

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Speaker 3: And I think we're gonna have to start posting on

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Speaker 3: to get Charger fans reaction in questions.

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Speaker 2: A lot going on as we get prepared for camp.

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Speaker 1: No doubt excited about Threads. We'll see what happens there.

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Speaker 1: You know how I feel about Twitter, It's assessbol I

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Speaker 1: avoided at the cost. I enjoy Instagram, so maybe I'll

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Speaker 1: enjoy Threads. Who knows. We'll see what happens. But I'm

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Speaker 1: up on there. You're up on there, the Chargers around there.

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Speaker 1: I saw Derwin getting excited about some stuff, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe we will. Fourth of July was great, enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: I got a lot of questions about this being my

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Speaker 1: downtime and how nice that is. And it is nice,

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Speaker 1: but it also reminded me that rolling three weeks out.

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Speaker 1: So very excited about being back out there July twenty sixth.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's the first day, it's Wednesday. I think

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Speaker 1: that's right. I'll be out there with DJ doing the

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Speaker 1: radio show from nine to noon, and that Saturday is

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Speaker 1: Get Together, get Back Together, whatever the heck the NFL

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Speaker 1: calls it Saturday, and be out there hosting it. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be packed, no doubt. Much like last year. It'll

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Speaker 1: I love my downtime and I love being able to

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Speaker 1: enjoy just having the radio show in the afternoon. But

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Speaker 1: am I sorely miss the season and all of the

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Speaker 1: people and all the Charger folks that we get to

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Speaker 1: hang out with. And I'm very much looking forward to

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Speaker 1: being out there at OCC on July twenty six. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that sounds right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the podcast changes a little bit too.

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Speaker 3: We get to be there in person and actually talk

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Speaker 3: to some of these guys face to face, learn about

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Speaker 3: their all season, learn how they're adjusting to the offense

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Speaker 3: or defense. This Chargers Weekly podcast goes year round. There's

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Speaker 3: not a ton of new news from last week to

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Speaker 3: this week, but Moddy, I do want to dig in

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Speaker 3: a little bit on the offense because you did a

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Speaker 3: great job breaking down kind of the deficiencies in the

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Speaker 3: defense last year, what needs to change, how the offensive

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Speaker 3: defense can work better together. I want to dive into

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Speaker 3: Kellen Moore a little bit, and I think shortly after

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Speaker 3: our podcast, Peter Schreger had a great conversation with Kellen

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Speaker 3: Moore on his podcast entitled The Season, and I know

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Speaker 3: you listen to it. I encourage all Chargers fans to

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Speaker 3: into a little bit of what Kellen said, But just

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Speaker 3: your thoughts on what Peter was able to glean from

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Speaker 1: I think it's just real rare, which is why you

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Speaker 1: should go listen to it. You often do not get

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Speaker 1: it's about forty minute pot if I remember right, that

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Speaker 1: They feel like the messaging should come from the head

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Speaker 1: get conversations like the one you got, especially one that

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Speaker 1: questions of course from from Peter. They're both clearly you

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Speaker 1: know what I take away from that forty minute conversation

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so much speculation in regards to what it's going

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Speaker 2: In preseason ultimately in September.

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Speaker 1: I just feel like people too many people are assuming

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot that goes into it. So

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Speaker 3: This is an underrated aspect of Kellen Moore, and I

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Speaker 3: don't think we've talked about this money, but doing a

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Speaker 3: for a period of time, so he knows how Joe operates.

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Speaker 3: He knows the success that Joe has had and what

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Speaker 3: that is that Kellen as a player is fromamiliar with

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Speaker 3: I know that Joe is successful with this, Justin's really

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Speaker 2: I think it's an underrated aspect to all this.

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Speaker 1: Sure, it's important for people to recognize that the plays

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Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like college football where they're

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Speaker 1: Vic Fangio had a huge influence on Brandon Staley, a

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Speaker 1: as a coach. But I just I think too many

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Speaker 1: This is Christian Herbert's averaging eighteen point eight yards per attempt.

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Speaker 1: Now it's probably not gonna be the case. You know,

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing that well this look one hand

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Speaker 1: five years in a row five yards six three four

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Speaker 1: one five three five two yards per carry. Like, that's

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Speaker 1: what we need to get back to. You look at

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Speaker 1: at That's so the Chargers need to get back to.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 1: Look at Justin Herbert twenty twenty fifty five carries, five

436
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Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns, four point three per carry, twenty twenty one

437
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Speaker 1: three rushing touchdowns, but he had twenty eight first downs

438
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Speaker 1: that year, I mean sixty three carries. Like that's what

439
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Speaker 1: they have to get back to and that's going to

440
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Speaker 1: help the running game when you have to account for all,

441
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Speaker 1: you know, when you have to account for that extra

442
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Speaker 1: man you've got eleven versus eleven, that changes the calculus

443
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Speaker 1: and puts the defense at a disadvantage as opposed to

444
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Speaker 1: eleven on ten because they don't account for the quarterback

445
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Speaker 1: as being a running threat.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought that up, because I think we've

447
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: talked about this on the podcast a couple of times.

448
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: I remember that game against Pittsburgh where Justin was running

449
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Speaker 3: all over the place because they were giving it to him.

450
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 3: Justin so smart, and you know it goes back to

451
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Speaker 3: his decision making, just finding the right guy. Justin knows

452
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Speaker 3: when to get down. I think after that his first

453
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Speaker 3: start after getting actually he actually laid out the linebacker

454
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Speaker 3: for the Chiefs. I think he realized that, Okay, I

455
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Speaker 3: have to be a little bit more smarter about how

456
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Speaker 3: I run the football. But I love the fact that

457
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Speaker 3: Kellen Moore could get Justin involved in the running game,

458
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Speaker 3: and I found it frustrating last year.

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Speaker 2: Money.

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Speaker 3: I think we talked about it last week or two

461
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Speaker 3: weeks ago. Joshua Kelly was getting six five six yards

462
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Speaker 3: of rip and then they would take him out and

463
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Speaker 3: Sony Michelle would go in Joshua Kelly. Joshua Kelly, I

464
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Speaker 3: think in the Cleveland game was a good example of him.

465
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Speaker 3: Just you know, that's what we saw in training camp, right.

466
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Speaker 3: We saw a leaner Joshua Kelly. We saw a guy

467
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Speaker 3: with more muscle, and it's I think it's all contingent

468
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Speaker 3: on his health. I have faith in Joshua Kelly and

469
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Speaker 3: Isaiah Spiller. I'm just curious if you add more competition.

470
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Speaker 3: There's so many guys out there besides running backs though,

471
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Speaker 3: like you know we talked about in Docway and Clowney

472
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Speaker 3: and Bryce Callahan and Johnson, all those kind of premium

473
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Speaker 3: positions that you mentioned, it may be in the Charger's

474
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Speaker 3: best interest to kind of sit back. See how camp goes.

475
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Speaker 3: You can always bring a running back in. And there's

476
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Speaker 3: a reason why maybe Fournette and Hunt and Zeke they

477
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Speaker 3: haven't found a home yet because there's not that huge

478
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Speaker 3: demand in terms of money, and.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a two way street. Those guys are gonna

480
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Speaker 1: want reps, They're gonna want to go somewhere because they

481
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Speaker 1: think they can extend their career a couple more years,

482
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Speaker 1: so they're gonna evaluate the opportunity and say, I don't

483
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Speaker 1: want to be a three. I need to be the two,

484
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Speaker 1: or I need to have a legitimate shot at being

485
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Speaker 1: the number one so I can try to make a

486
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Speaker 1: couple more million bucks next year, probably to be stuck

487
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Speaker 1: with a veteran's minimum incent of Leaden contract this year.

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Speaker 1: So imagine it's a minimum with incentives. Well, I got

489
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Speaker 1: to hit those incentives. So now I've you know, I've

490
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Speaker 1: got to go somewhere where I have a realistic opportunity

491
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Speaker 1: to attain the goals that have been put in front

492
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Speaker 1: of me so I can make my bonuses. So that's

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Speaker 1: what it'll come down to. And like I said, I

494
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Speaker 1: would be very surprised if any of those players were added.

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Speaker 1: It would have to go, you know, it would have

496
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Speaker 1: to be a couple weeks of training camp and Callen

497
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Speaker 1: Moore and Brandon Staley huddle in with Tom and Jojo

498
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Speaker 1: and John and the staff and saying, I don't think

499
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Speaker 1: it's right. I don't think the room's right. I feel good,

500
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Speaker 1: Zeke's still out there. I think Kareem hunts a great addition.

501
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Speaker 1: You know, that's what it would come down to. It's

502
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Speaker 1: not something that I suspect would happen before training camp.

503
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Speaker 1: Same thing on the defensive line. Yeah, you know, Tuley's

504
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: going to be great, but he's young. I don't think

505
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Speaker 1: he's quite ready yet. Chris Rump isn't quite take and

506
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Speaker 1: that Like, that's the conversation that it'll be. You know,

507
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Speaker 1: are we are we comfortable with a Sante in the

508
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Speaker 1: slot because he's an outside corner and has been an

509
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Speaker 1: outside corner, but we're putting him in the slot? Are

510
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Speaker 1: we okay with that?

511
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Speaker 3: We do?

512
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Speaker 1: We want to put JC in the slot and have

513
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Speaker 1: that Sante stay outs. Okay? If not, well, Bryce Klan's

514
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: still out there. You know what he did last Like,

515
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Speaker 1: that's the way that I envision this going. I wouldn't

516
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Speaker 1: if I were a Charger fan and I'm refreshing the

517
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Speaker 1: transaction page every single day, I wouldn't get too excited

518
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Speaker 1: about any of those names being added anytime soon, unless

519
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: that's a prior relationship and you get a call and

520
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's John Johnson saying, hey, coach, I'll

521
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Speaker 1: come for the minimum. Just get me out there. I

522
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Speaker 1: don't want to keep waiting around give me some incentives.

523
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Speaker 1: If I become the starter. You don't have to give

524
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Speaker 1: me seven million bucks. Give me two point five with

525
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Speaker 1: some incentives, and I'll be there tomorrow. Like that's the

526
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Speaker 1: way that maybe something could could come together.

527
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Speaker 2: The two weeks a free agent or free agency of.

528
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Speaker 3: Training camp, you know, with injuries, and you actually see

529
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Speaker 3: what you have in some of these rookies and some

530
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 3: of these guys in a new offense or defense. That's

531
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Speaker 3: when moves can can actually accelerate a little bit more. Buddy,

532
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Speaker 3: I'll get you out of here on this. I want

533
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: to get your take because you talked about the third

534
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Speaker 3: quarters last week, the first quarters starting strong, being aggressive offensively.

535
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Speaker 3: The Chargers only had five touchdowns in the first.

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Speaker 2: Quarter last year.

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Speaker 3: What was it like calling those games knowing that a

538
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Speaker 3: majority of them after the first quarter it was zero zero, three, three,

539
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Speaker 3: seven to three in favor of the opponent. And how

540
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Speaker 3: do you think the complexion of this team changes if

541
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Speaker 3: they actually start fast and get out in front of opponents.

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Speaker 1: It changes everything, changes everything. It's it was it was

543
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Speaker 1: tough to call. I'm not gonna lie because it was

544
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Speaker 1: hanging over them. They haven't scored a touchdown in the

545
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Speaker 1: first quarter for seven games, like we had a streak

546
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Speaker 1: like that. It was crazy and so you knew it

547
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: was there, or they have not scored a touchdown. I

548
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: remember the opening possession was something ridiculous. It was crazy

549
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Speaker 1: how many games they went without scoring a touchdown on

550
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Speaker 1: the opening possession. And you'd like to think you come

551
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Speaker 1: into a game with the script or you feel really

552
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: good about the Okay, we've scouted this other team that's

553
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Speaker 1: led to this set of plays that we feel really

554
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Speaker 1: good about going into this game to take advantage of

555
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Speaker 1: the mismatches that we have identified and let's go, let's

556
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Speaker 1: go capitalize, and they just weren't able to do it.

557
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Speaker 1: So that I think is a big reason why Kellen

558
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Speaker 1: Moore is here is you've got all week to plan.

559
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Speaker 1: You've got And this goes back to what we talked

560
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Speaker 1: about on the other side of the ball with Brandon

561
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Speaker 1: Staley and how good the defenses were in the first half.

562
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Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, Staley and his defensive staff have scouted

563
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Speaker 1: the opponent. They have put together this game plan for

564
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Speaker 1: how we're going to attack this offense and knock them

565
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Speaker 1: off their spots and not let them get comfortable. Worked

566
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: game in and game out. Seemingly it worked. Rarely did

567
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: you see a team jump the chargers and get out

568
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: to these big leads early. So I think that's something

569
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Speaker 1: that they're hoping Kellen Moore can put together. You've had

570
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Speaker 1: a week to prepare. Here's our twenty plays that we

571
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Speaker 1: feel really good about. Let's go score a touchdown early

572
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Speaker 1: and immediately put the pressure on. Knowing you've got when

573
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Speaker 1: everyone's healthy, this complement of weapons in Mike Williams, Keenan Allen,

574
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Speaker 1: Quinton Johnston, Austin Eckler, Gerald Everett, Justin Herbert. That's you're

575
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Speaker 1: gonna be in a ten or fourteen zero hole if

576
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Speaker 1: you don't trade punches right away. It's the Chiefs. That's

577
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: what everyone's chasing. That's what everyone is trying to be,

578
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Speaker 1: where if you punt or you kick a field goal,

579
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Speaker 1: you're now freaking out a little bit because you're like,

580
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Speaker 1: this could be fourteen to three in a hurry. This

581
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: is for seventeen zero in a hurry. So that's something

582
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Speaker 1: that that I'm assuming they're they're going to be looking

583
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Speaker 1: at and would love to see an improvement, because, like

584
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Speaker 1: you said, five touchdowns on the first quarter and just

585
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Speaker 1: regular failure on the opening drive has got to change.

586
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Speaker 3: When you look at the defense, how they performed in December,

587
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Speaker 3: just the game plan against Miami the Colts, how dominant

588
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: they were against the Colts and Nick Foles and really

589
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: had no points to show.

590
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Speaker 2: For it in the first quarter.

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Speaker 3: Those are the frustrating games where you're like, man, all right,

592
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Speaker 3: the defense has come to play. We have to get

593
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Speaker 3: out on opponents and score a touchdown. You know, when

594
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Speaker 3: you script those first fifteen plays, they should result in points.

595
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Speaker 3: And there's far too many times last year with the

596
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Speaker 3: Chargers just could not get going in the first quarter.

597
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Speaker 3: And we mentioned the third quarter, so just starting each

598
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Speaker 3: half fast, and you know, we saw what Kellen Moore

599
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Speaker 3: did in the fourth quarters of last year. I think

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Speaker 3: they had a thirty three point fourth quarter against the

601
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Speaker 3: Colts last year. I think one of them was a

602
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Speaker 3: defensive touchdown. But closing games strong, always having your foot

603
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Speaker 3: on the gas, right.

604
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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent with this talent, And that's what

605
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: was so frustrating about last year. I mentioned that I

606
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Speaker 1: think I said heavy bout that you know that they

607
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: were stack boxes now they were light boxes, and they

608
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: were still stopping the run, and so they were able

609
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Speaker 1: to commit resources downfield because they had no concern that

610
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Speaker 1: the charges were going to be able to effectively run

611
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Speaker 1: the ball. So you've got to create, you've got to

612
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: take advantage of your weapons, and you've got to take

613
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: advantage of your advantages. And that's three guys out there,

614
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: two on the outside, one in the slot that are

615
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: six three or taller, that are plenty fast that you know,

616
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: now open things underneath for Austin Eckler, and now you're

617
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Speaker 1: committing resources downfield. Well, here comes Austin Eckler out of

618
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Speaker 1: the backfield, and we know what he can do with

619
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Speaker 1: the ball in his hay. And how many people get

620
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Speaker 1: you're gonna put a linebacker on Eckler? All right, good

621
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: luck with that. Like that's that's what we're talking about.

622
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Speaker 1: And they just weren't able. They weren't able to do

623
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Speaker 1: it last year, point blank. They weren't. For whatever reason.

624
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: There was first and ten became second, and eight on

625
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Speaker 1: a run became third and six on a quick you know,

626
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: on stick to the underneath. Just guy planted three yards

627
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: upfield and three and out and it just it's got

628
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: to change. Like you said, I don't know if it's

629
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Speaker 1: if aggressive is the right word, it's really just execution.

630
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: You know, they have to execute better to move the

631
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: ball down. If flipping the fields great and giving your

632
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: defense an advantage on a first possessions, you don't go

633
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: three and out and now they've flipped the field on you,

634
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: and what a mess. And no, it's just I think

635
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: it's I think you put it best. You know, you've

636
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: you've got to put some pressure on these teams too,

637
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: because how many there's just not that many teams that

638
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: have what the Chargers have. They should fear the offense.

639
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: They should go into the game going, what the hell

640
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: are we gonna do? How are we gonna contend with this?

641
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: You know, well, if we commit resources here, well now

642
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: we're screwed with Austin Eckler. If we commit resources to

643
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: Mike Williams Keenan Allen's destroying us in the middle of

644
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: the field. You know, like there's so many ways for

645
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: this offense to cutch you a Ribbons and health is

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Speaker 1: a big part of it. You just love to see

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the one thing, just real quick,

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Speaker 1: I'll finish with this, Chris. That's one thing people forget

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Speaker 1: is how how hurt or you could even say injured

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert was last year. It's a completely different guy

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Speaker 1: after he got the rib injury, and now we found

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Speaker 1: So it's important to remember that that Justin Herbert was

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Speaker 1: not himself last year because well he wasn't His body

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Speaker 1: wasn't whole. So his body's whole. Everybody's healthy. This first week,

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Speaker 1: let's see what this team can do against a really,

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Speaker 1: really good Miami defense.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a number one thing to reflect on it.

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Speaker 3: You know, an offensive coordinator can catch a lot of

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Speaker 3: heat for play calling and things that happened throughout the

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Speaker 3: course of his season. But Justin Herbert had broken rib

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Speaker 3: cartilage in Week two. Man, he was not himself, and

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Speaker 3: he played every game tough as nails. He did not

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Speaker 3: have Keenan for a large stretch of the season. He

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Speaker 3: did not have Mike for a good chunk of this sea.

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Speaker 3: He did not have Mike in the Jacksonville game. The

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Speaker 3: offensive line, you lose your franchise all pro left tackle.

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Speaker 3: So you know, those are things that are out of

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Speaker 3: the coordinator's control that that happened last year, and I

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Speaker 3: think was a result of why there were slower starts

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Speaker 3: and why the offense maybe wasn't as efficient this year.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a This podcast was meant to make

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Speaker 3: you guys excited and cautiously optimistic about Kellen Moore and

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Speaker 3: a healthy Chargers offense. And I think that's what everybody's

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Speaker 3: looking forward to when they get to jack Hambi Sports

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Speaker 3: Complex forget together Friday or Saturday. The Money's hosting. We're

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Speaker 3: gonna get together.

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Speaker 2: You're you're gonna watch Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 1: Do is get Together Saturday or something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's the twenty ninth. We'll be out

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Speaker 1: Just think back to last year, you know, the last

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Speaker 1: It's just a training camp. But you think back to

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Speaker 1: of years prior Derwin versus or maybe it was last

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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa versus Trent Williams one on one reps. There

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Speaker 1: was the it's just it's so much fun to watch

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Speaker 1: some of these guys and that's yeah, may just to

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Speaker 1: watch j. T. Woods out there take the next step.

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw with the Sante Samuel's rookie years,

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Speaker 1: Megan and like that's the fun stuff, you know, going

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Speaker 1: out and watching Clinton Johnston out there and watching all

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Speaker 1: these new draft picks and getting excited about you know,

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Speaker 1: Tuley out there, think about Tully working one on one

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Speaker 3: That, Well, last week could use it, I think as

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Speaker 3: a term of endearment, calling chargers fans weirdos if they're

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Speaker 3: listening in July into June, and there was a lot

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Speaker 3: of weirdos have checked in proudly to sit, hey, weirdo

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Speaker 3: here checking out our charges weekly.

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Speaker 2: So we appreciate percent very.

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Speaker 1: Much, one hundred percent. Like I said, keep charges weekly, weird.

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Speaker 3: Let's go and keep it weird, baby, all right for

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Speaker 3: money on Chris has been charged weekly.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next week,