1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Hell, I need somebody, not just anybody. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: You know, I need someone ron an Adian. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Here's how you change a flat Here's what you do. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: Here's where you find the jack. First, you get out 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: your flashlight. I don't have a flashlight. Oh you don't 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: have a flashlight in your car. Why don't you have 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: a flashlight in your car? Do you think flat tires 8 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: only come during the daylight hours? Flat tires are like babies. 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: They always come at three o'clock in the morning, when 10 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: you least expect it. The car Doctor, does the car 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: have adequate heat? Do you feel heat coming out of 12 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: the vents into the froster? 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: Sure it does, and previously is just not. 14 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Anian the Car Doctor. 15 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 18 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: the phone and call in the garage. 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Doors are open, but I am here to take your 20 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: call at eight five five five six ninety nine. 21 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 3: Hundred and now he. 22 00:00:58,440 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: Running. 23 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: Have you noticed lately EV's are in the news. You 24 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: might have heard about electric vehicles. They've been. They've been 25 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: NonStop in the news for the last two weeks. And 26 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna make this an opening rant about EV 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: so please keep your radios on, don't turn off. But 28 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: it just I have to laugh because you know, so 29 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: many articles research. Kathy's been hard at work. She put 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: about fourteen articles on my desk this morning alone. With 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: regard to everything everybody's talking about. EV's are hard to ensure, 32 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: there's a surge in unpopularity, problems with the batteries. Tesla's 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: saying that their sales are surging, but according to the 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Globe Institute, they're actually in decline, and on and on 35 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: and on and on and on, and it just tells 36 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: me that, you know, I got to give credit where 37 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: credit is due. Mark Mills, right, a good friend of 38 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: this radio show. We've had them on a couple of time. 39 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna get them on again next month to get 40 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: an end of your recap, was right on the money. 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: He said, you're gonna see the curve. It's going to 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: hit a point and then slide down the other side, 43 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: and I think, run the downhill slide. So it's just 44 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: an interesting observation. So anyway, I just wanted to get 45 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: that out and say hello and welcome and thanks for 46 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: stopping by today. Let's go over to where we're gonna go. 47 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: Let's go to Tennessee. Let's go to Larry. This looks 48 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: like a good weird one. Larry run An Inyan at 49 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: your service, sir, How can I help? 50 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I have a nineteen ninety eight Ford Explorer. Okay, 51 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 3: it is V six four point zero, and the about 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: the last three years four years. When I go up 53 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 3: to the red light, I put the brake on and 54 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 3: sometimes he'll speed up where the stop sign. It doesn't 55 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 3: do it every time, It just does it ever once 56 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: in a while. Sometimes it doesn't matter whether it's hot 57 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: or cold. So I've had to break booster, change the 58 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 3: pressure switch. I've unhooked a cruise control and I don't 59 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: know what else to do. I've had it in shops 60 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: and they can't figure out what's going on with it. Okay, 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: can you help me? 62 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. Let's mee what I can do for 63 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: you here. First of all, I'm going to tell you 64 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,119 Speaker 1: that the majority of times we call this unintended acceleration. 65 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: All right, and just just just empty your head while 66 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: I talk. All right, Larry, let me just give you 67 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: the whole what's in my mind. You know, unintended acceleration 68 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: is the moment where we're stepping on the brake, but 69 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: the vehicle accelerates on its own. So the first question 70 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: the investigators always ask is is it operator error because 71 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard that more than a few times, 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: or is it actually a misfunction of the vehicle? Right? 73 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: Fair point right? How many times has somebody said, Larry, 74 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: are you sure you're not stepping on both the gas 75 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: and the brake at the same time? 76 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: Multiple times? 77 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: Right, I'm sure, I'm sure by yeah, and I'm sure 78 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: by now the front floor MAT's out of the car, 79 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: and you know you're driving around barefoot, just so that 80 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, am I really on the brake pedal? And 81 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. You've been down that road. Okay, 82 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: so we're going to make the assumption, which is a 83 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: dangerous word on family radio, as you guys always hear 84 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: me say that you're only stepping on the brake pedal. Okay, Yes, 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: So that being said, what can cause unintended acceleration? Well, 86 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: obviously the engine has to feed itself more air. It's 87 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: it's either doing that by opening the throttle plate, which 88 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: if the cruise is disconnected, and this is not a 89 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: drive by wire vehicle, this is mechanical linkage. This is 90 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: a cable. In ninety eight, we didn't have drive by 91 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: wire technology on the Explorers at that time. There's only 92 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: two ways we're going to get air into the engine. 93 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: Well three. Actually, the throttle plate's open, the idle air 94 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: control valve is hanging or being driven open, right, or 95 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: we've got a vacuum. We've got a vacuum leak opening 96 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: up somehow. So my first question, if I was working 97 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: on this in the shop, once I experienced this, I'm 98 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: a curious person by nature, I'd pop it into neutral. 99 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: Where does the idle speed go? Does it zoom up 100 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: to two three thousand rpm? Or does it drop right down? 101 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: And well, I can tell you that if I put 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 3: the brake on and it starts to speed up, if 103 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: I let off and push it back down, it quits 104 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: if you. 105 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: Let off and push it. Okay, so it sounds right. 106 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: Are there any aftermarket accessories on this vehicle? Has anybody 107 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: done any radio or anything in the OBD two plug 108 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: or any sort of add on accessories to this vehicle. Okay, 109 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: you know I always worry about that. Do we have 110 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: wiring crossed or worn through? Okay? 111 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: Right, So. 112 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: If you look at the throttle body area where the 113 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: air intake duct comes in, there's going to be a 114 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: two wire there's going to be a two wire device 115 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: there called an ayak or an idle air control valve. 116 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: If if the vehicle is operating properly and you turn 117 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: on the air conditioning, did you ever wonder how they 118 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: bump the idle speed up? You know, how does it? 119 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: How does it increase? How does it increase idle speed? Okay? 120 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: They've got to make an air leak. They've got to 121 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: make an air leak around the throttle plate, all right. 122 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: And the way they do this is with an idle 123 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: air control valve. That idle air control valve is a 124 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: controlled by the computer air leak around the throttle plate. 125 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: They're adding more oxygen to the engine, more air to 126 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: the engine by passing the throttle and it bumps the 127 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: idle speed. Okay. I have seen cases where either the 128 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: idle air control valve is stuck, sticking or being driven. 129 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: So how are we going to test this? Good question? 130 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: That's why I get the big Bucks. I always ask 131 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: the good questions. We can look at voltage value on 132 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: the idle air control valve and see what it's reading it. Actually, 133 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the computer is controlling it with pulse voltage. There's ways 134 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: to convert it to dwell. Back in the old days, 135 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: we had dwell for the amount of time, the length 136 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: of time the points were closed while the distributor shaft rotated. 137 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm really dating myself here. I all right, And we 138 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: could look at the idle air control valve the same way. 139 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: What your mechanic needs to do is go talk to him. 140 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Play this part of the show for him. It'll become 141 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: a podcast in about two hours. But I would want 142 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: to measure voltage or dwell reading on that idle air 143 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: control valve, just so we have a baseline of when 144 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: this vehicle is operating correctly. What numbers would we expect 145 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: to see? All right, okay, And I think the number 146 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: was I'm gonna say about twenty two to twenty five 147 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: degrees of dwell at closed throttle. And I would go 148 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: out and buy a cheap meter and wire it into 149 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: the car, and the first time it happens, I would 150 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: glance at that meter. What's it where is it if 151 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm expecting to see if I close the throttle and 152 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: I'm used to seeing a dwell reading of twenty two 153 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: to twenty five degrees, and you're applying the break, and 154 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm watching the due reading going up, meaning it's opening 155 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: the valve. More, I'm gonna sit there and go, wow, 156 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: something's driving the idle open. And I look down and 157 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: my foot's clearly only on the brake pedal. I'm now 158 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: down to I've either I've either got a problem in 159 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: the onboard main computer or in the wiring harness. Now, 160 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: having told you all that good news, I'm gonna tell 161 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: you that the computer, the main engine computer, the processor 162 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm fairly certain is obsolete from Ford. And yeah, listen, 163 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: you only you only asked me how would I diagnose it? 164 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: You didn't say if I could fix it? All right? 165 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: But you know, here's an example where if I've done 166 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: my due diligence and testing and I can prove dwell 167 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: reading changes, I can actually see a voltage or dwell 168 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: reading change, something's driving that valve open, all right, Then 169 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of two things. It's either it's 170 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: either I've got a shorten the wiring harness that's applying voltage, 171 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: pulsing that valve on its own, taking away computer control. 172 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: Or I've got a computer issue. Computers no longer available, 173 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: and I know the harness is long gone, but that 174 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: will tell us something for that matter, if I wanted 175 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: to get really simplistic, all right, I would find as 176 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: I would and and I'm and I'm going a little 177 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: around the bend here, but you know this is this 178 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: is a little bit of a be around the bend 179 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: kind of a problem, Larry. Once I did the rest 180 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: of this, all right, and I verified no weird vacuum leaks, 181 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: somebody's considered the break hose, the rubber hose going up 182 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: to the booster where the check valve is, that the 183 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: check valve isn't cracked or deformed or leaking vacuum at 184 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: random under load anybody, they've gone through that, then. 185 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: They've done everything. 186 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: Okay. Then my next thing is, how about why can't 187 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 1: we wire a simple toggle switch into the idle air 188 00:09:56,120 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: control valve and we could test this beforehand, bring the 189 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: RPM up close it, let it idle, and turn the 190 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: AC on. If we flick the toggle switch in the 191 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: other direction, we should kill power to the idle air 192 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: control valve, the valvel stop moving. In theory, we should 193 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: see rpm drop. If RPM doesn't drop, the valve is stuck. 194 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 3: Okay, right, yes. 195 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: If you know, the most important thing to remember when 196 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: diagnosing something, all right, is if we were to take 197 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: the part off the car and put it on the bench, 198 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: how would we test it? And that's all I'm trying 199 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: to do. That's that's that's how I spend most of 200 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: my week doing that. If I were to disassemble the 201 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: vehicle and put it on the bench, one piece of 202 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: a time, how could I check each and every component? 203 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: But I want to work on the most likely first. 204 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: I want to know, test what's good, what's bad, and 205 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: then I want to get to the root causes of 206 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: it as fast as I can possibly get there. All right, 207 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: you may want to you may want to verify availability 208 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: of some of these parts I'm talking about. If you 209 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: are going to end up, you know, you decide it 210 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: as a bed idle air control valve. I'd see if 211 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: I could get a Ford motorcraft piece. I've seen some 212 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: problems in the aftermarket, and I don't want you to 213 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: I don't want you to take I don't want you 214 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: to take a problem out and put a problem in. 215 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: Then you'll be calling me about a different well, you know, 216 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: and you'll be calling me about a different one. So 217 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: but that's where you're at, all right. 218 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: Kiddo, all right, I sure appreciate your help. 219 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You keep us posted. Good luck to 220 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: you down there, Yes, sir, good luck to you down there. 221 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: Tell us way, you're very welcome. I'm running any of 222 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: the car doctor. We're back right after this. He drives 223 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: that way. 224 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: But when it comes to fixing cars, Ron has car 225 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 4: advice done right eight five five five six zero nine 226 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 4: to nine zero zero. 227 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Here's Ron. Hey, let's cruise on over and talk to 228 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: Let's go to John and Long Island. John. Welcome to 229 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: the car Doctor, sir. How can I help? 230 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: Good? 231 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a Toyota wrap fully the twenty twenty eighteen, 232 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 5: and my brother M changed the front brakes and you 233 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 5: change the pads and. 234 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 6: The ruos, right, And what's happening is when you first 235 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 6: the tap on the brakes, it squeaks, but as you 236 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 6: press harder it goes away, and it happens like almost 237 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 6: every time. 238 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, so the question here becomes Is this 239 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: related to First of all, are you sure it's the fronts? 240 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 6: Yes, it's the front okay, so. 241 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, you know it's it's every time. 242 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: So a light pedal, it squeaks and then the herder 243 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: you press it, it goes away obviously or maybe not 244 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: so obviously. Has anybody taken the wheels back up? Have 245 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: we looked at the brakes? Does it look like one 246 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: of the shims is rubbing against the rotor? 247 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 6: He did, Yeah, he did take it off, but he 248 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 6: said he didn't see anything anything wrong. 249 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: Okay, did he did he reuse the shims that were 250 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: on there or did he use the shims that came 251 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: in the pad kit? 252 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 6: I think he used the new ones, all right. 253 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: I would look at the shims very carefully. Uh do 254 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: you know what? Do you know what brand of break 255 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: he used? 256 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 7: Yes? 257 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 6: The original Toyotas, so he. 258 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: Got Toyota pads, yes, okay, So I would just look 259 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: at the shims. Does he you know one shim out 260 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: of place? Toyota pads? I can say in fifty something 261 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: years of doing this business, three bad sets. You know, 262 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: they just they generally they generally have a pretty good 263 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: track record not saying it's not possible. So let's but 264 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: let's eliminate the shims one hundred percent, all right. You know, 265 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: he might have to take the calipers back off, not 266 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: necessarily the brackets and just take the pads off and 267 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: pull the shims out. Does he see a wear mark 268 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: on the shim? Does he see a shiny spot like 269 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: the shim is just rubbing in the wrong spot? 270 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: All right? 271 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 7: Right? 272 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: So, and then when he when he puts the shims on, 273 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: when he put the pads on, did he use any 274 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: did he use any caliber grease? And he sort of. 275 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 6: That's what I'm not too sure about. 276 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So the favorite caliber grease at the time, I 277 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: don't know the part numbers from ac Delco is what 278 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: we're using right now. We've been using it for years. 279 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: It's it's sort of a clear white paste in a 280 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: in a in a can with a little bottle brush. 281 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: Ac Delco makes it. It's it's GM's caliber grease. It 282 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: works really well. A thin shmear like Mom would say, 283 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: a shmeer a jelly with your peanut butter. A thin 284 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: shmear on the on the clips on both sides, all right, 285 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: so that it's it's got some lubricity. It kind of 286 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: wiggles on the caliber bracket and then a thin shmere 287 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: on the edge of the pad, and where the caliper, 288 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, definitely has to have some caliber grease or 289 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: break grease as we call it, on the backing of 290 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: the pad itself, so that the caliper can kind of 291 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: float against the brake pad. All right, very important, all right? 292 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: And then last and then last when you go through 293 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: all this, and all this doesn't solve it, you know, 294 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: do we have a bed set of pads. So if 295 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: you were to find a nice empty road somewhere and 296 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: back up it, you know, back up at twenty twenty 297 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: five miles an hour, and pop the brakes a couple 298 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: of times hard, scuff the brake, scuff the brake pad 299 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: in the opposite direction, and then go forward. Think of 300 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: a think of a piece of wood that's got it's 301 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: grain rubbed the wrong way, So now you're going to 302 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: flatten it out, right, You want to pop the brake 303 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: in the wrong direction and scuff it the other way. 304 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: If going forward diminishes or changes the noise that tells 305 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: you it's in the pad. Alright, all right, Okay, So 306 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: a couple of things to love. All right, sir, If 307 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: you have any more problems, you give me a call. 308 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: We'll figure it out. Not a hard one. You're very 309 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: welcome circit, Yes, sir, Yeah, breaks are And at least 310 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: he did it right. Okay. You know I didn't have 311 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: to have a conversation about did you change roadors? Did 312 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: you change shims? You know, it's it's it's very important. 313 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: I still I still see cars. We had someone bring 314 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: us a new Kia this week. They had just purchased. 315 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: It was a used car from the dealer. The dealer 316 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: did a pad slab. You know, I'm not picking on 317 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: the dealer. It's just what the used car department decided 318 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: to do to save a couple of bucks. And the 319 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: shame of it is, two things are gonna happen here. 320 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: Number one, the pads are gonna wear poorly because the 321 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: rotors that were on the car have a rust ridge, 322 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: a nasty rust ridge on the inside face. And that's 323 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: the part that the consumer doesn't see. And it's gonna 324 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna shorten the stopping ability and the stopping distance 325 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: is going to be effected of that vehicle, and it's 326 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: gonna wear the pad out prematurely, because is just going 327 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: to grind that pad into nothing in a shorter period 328 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: of time, and then over time, rust particles are going 329 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: to get impregnated into that brake pad and that'll be 330 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: the next phone call I get about squeaking brakes. So 331 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: it's very important when you change brakes to do pads 332 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: and rotors. Number One, you want a nice clean surface 333 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: for the pad to break in against. Number Two, if 334 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: you look at a new rotor, regardless of manufacturer, the 335 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: good ones, the better ones that are doing it correctly, 336 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: have a crosshatch finished. They have lines scored at forty 337 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: five degree angles to each other. That's like that for 338 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: a reason. The reason is it helps in the final 339 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: burnishing or seat in of the brake pad. Brake pads, 340 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: their final curing occur on the car in that first 341 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: seventy five to one hundred miles, sometimes a little longer 342 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: depending upon the manufacturer. You know, think of it as 343 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, brake pads are cooked eighty percent of the way, 344 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: and they take the cake out of the oven when 345 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: it's a little soft on the inside, and then they 346 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: firm it up while you're driving down the road. But 347 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: you need that crosshatch to raise the temperature of the 348 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: pad in order to get him hot. I'm running ady 349 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 350 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: Don't go away. 351 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 4: Ron's in his own the AutoZone studio and killed you 352 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: back right after this. 353 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Auto Zone studio. Here's Ron. Hey, 354 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: let's wander over to boy. Long Island's coming in loud 355 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: and clear today. Let's go over to Bob in Long Island. 356 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: Ninety seven buhicle saber, Robert, you're on with the car doctor. 357 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: What's going on? 358 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 3: Ron? 359 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 7: Thanks for taking my call. 360 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 3: You're welcome, all right. 361 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 7: I get ninety seven be a thirty eight hundred six 362 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 7: and I get a code thirteen seventy four. That's intermittent. 363 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 364 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 7: So when a check end is like it, I can 365 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 7: just about start it and it won't accelerate it. It 366 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 7: wants to shut off, right, So I have all data 367 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 7: DIY subscription and they had to flow shot and they 368 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 7: lead me down to the pre volt reference check of 369 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 7: fifteen volt whatever to try to trigger to see if 370 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 7: the ignition module response or a PCM. But what are 371 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 7: the chances of a crank sensor? 372 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: Yep, that's in there too, so let's talk about it. 373 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: Thirteen seventy four is a reference that the PCM saw 374 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: a loss of trigger supply to the module. Now it 375 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: can also be you know, we talk about how new 376 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: cars are designed poorly by manufacturer. Sometimes they didn't do 377 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: well in the old cars either. 378 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 7: Uh. 379 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: You know, the technology is that it'll it'll, it'll. It 380 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: could be a crank sensor, it could be an ignition module. 381 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: The questions how to test it normally in the shop. 382 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: Here's a case where we'd watch this on a lapscope 383 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: because a dwelve meter, a digital voltometer is not going 384 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: to be able to capture the signal fast enough. So 385 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: that being said, let's let's talk a little bit. Let's 386 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: just chat. Sometimes. You know, we would take a you know, 387 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: I have a twenty four inch long three eighths extension 388 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: and I would gently tap the top bolt. If you 389 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: look at the way that crank sensor is mounted behind 390 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: the harmonic balancer, and while the engine is running, if 391 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: you can finagle a long extension down behind the serpentine 392 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: belt without getting it tangled up into the serpentine belt, 393 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: because you're gonna do this while the engine is running, 394 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: So understand the peril here, all right, if I can, 395 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: if I can, if I can just tap that top bolt, 396 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: just a little tap tap tap tap tap, not not. 397 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: You don't want to break it, you just want. 398 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 7: To let it. I just want to let it of 399 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 7: the sensor. We're talking right, right. 400 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: Correct, because you can't get to anything else, all right, 401 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: if the car stoles, I'd put a crank sensor on it. 402 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: That's my that's my that's my no scope, no ability 403 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: to test anything, method to diagnose something on the side 404 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: of the road. And we we did a few of those. 405 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 7: That's the direction I was looking for. Yeah. 406 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: And and that being said, all right, have you gone 407 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: further to look at the procedure for changing the crank sensor? 408 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I have some mechanical background. But when I 409 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 7: left we be wood was still popular. 410 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: Right, but you know it's like it's like you're gonna 411 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: need you're gonna need that that that jig tool to 412 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: line the sensor up. 413 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: All right. 414 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a if you go through that because the 415 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: veins of the veins of the balancer have to be centered. 416 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: So there's actually there's actually a special tool out there, 417 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: and I've seen that tool. I'm trying to think of where. 418 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: But I thought somebody came out with a cheap plastic 419 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: version of it, for lack of a better way to 420 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 1: put it, because you know when GM when Kent when 421 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: when Kent Moore designed that tool thirty five years ago. 422 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: It was with the idea it was going to be 423 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: used in the shop. You know, it had to be 424 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: all metal, it had to withstand, you know, it had 425 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: to be a cast iron bathtub. And then now we're 426 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: down to the last few hundred thousand of these vehicles. 427 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: How many more times are we going to change this? 428 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: Somebody came out with some of these things in plastic. 429 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: But you do need that tool. It's an essential tool 430 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: because there's no way to gauge position to put the 431 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: balancer back on because you can't see it. It's on 432 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: the back side of the balancer, so you know you 433 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: want to try and look around for that. Frankly, all right, 434 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: how many miles were on this car? 435 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 7: I would say about one hundred and fifty. 436 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So my way of thinking is, if I could 437 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: prove it's a crank sensor, I'll feel good changing the 438 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: crank sensor. But but I but I'd have a module 439 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: in the glove compartment, just because of the miles in 440 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: the age of the car. Because I'm gonna I'm gonna 441 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: ask you to try and find some no os Delco 442 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: in the way of a crank sensor and an ignition module. 443 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 7: All right, would you consider a Delphi equivalent? 444 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, if I had to, all right, if it was, 445 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: if it was some of the older stuff. And you 446 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: know who's not bad, who's who's made a broad resurgence 447 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: in my mind of late and they're right out they 448 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: well they were on Long Island in Queen's is a standard. 449 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 7: Standards. 450 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: Standards come a long way in the last couple of 451 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: years in my opinion, and I've seen some good things 452 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: out of them as well. All right, but you know, 453 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: we're coming down to the point where with some of 454 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 1: these older cars, parts are going away real fast and 455 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: hard and just having spares in the in the in 456 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: the closet don't hurt. 457 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 7: And uh yes. 458 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, possibly a Reman PCM or an ECM. Back 459 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: then it was an e c M. And I'll tell 460 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: you what you won't find. If you're planning to keep 461 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: the car, what you should start looking for is inside 462 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: the ECM, the MEMCAL, the prompt chip, all right, which 463 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: was a little yeah, that little bit right still ninety eight? 464 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: What was in ninety oh? Ninety eight? Yeah, you're right, okay, 465 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: in ninety eight it's not. But I'd still try and 466 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: find a PCM and have one on the shelf because 467 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: they're going away. Also, all this stuff, it's it's getting. 468 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 7: Hard enough hard question. But the crank bolt, if I'm 469 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 7: not able to do if my impact isn't strong enough 470 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 7: to loosen that, if I put a brake of bar 471 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 7: on the bolt and lay the bar on the well, how. 472 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: About how about can I get can you can you 473 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: get to any part of the flywheel? 474 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 7: I think I could? How strong on the teeth if 475 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 7: I jam it? 476 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: Well, you're going to put normally from GMGM would put 477 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: a flywheel tooth holder. There was a special tool that 478 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: it down to the flywheel and wedged in there. So 479 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: if the tool can hold it a pride bark and 480 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: hold it. Just make sure you're on the full load 481 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: of the tooth, so you don't you don't want to 482 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: obviously be on the edge of the tooth. You want 483 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: to be on the full load of the tooth, right, 484 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: But I bet you are you using an air gun 485 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: or recordless. 486 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 7: It would be an air gun. 487 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Air gunn'll be strong enough to get that off. It's 488 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: it's it's the shock, okay, all right, all right. 489 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 7: Otherwise if I let break a ball on the frame 490 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 7: reel and use a starter, what what what damage could 491 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 7: I cause? 492 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie and say I haven't done that, bob, 493 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: all right, Uh, you know we've all been there. Okay, 494 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: I can't say I've done it on the buicks because 495 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: I've always my air gun would always take it off 496 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 1: back in the day. But there was a there's a 497 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: couple of Hondas out there that were tighter than those buicks, 498 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: where we, you know, use the starter and a breaker 499 00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: bar because we couldn't get at the pop and it 500 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: were all right, it's uh, it's old school. It's a risk, 501 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: but sometimes you got to you know, you got to 502 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: take the risk as it comes. 503 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 7: So all right, Yes, I appreciate it. 504 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: Yes, you're very welcome, sir. 505 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 7: All right, thanks for the hint about happened on the sensor. 506 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 3: Yep. 507 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: And you know that that also works if you ever 508 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 1: get down to where you're testing a bad PCM. Back 509 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: in the day, a flat palm smack always worked well too, 510 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: but you know, I think in this case, it's going 511 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: to give you a direction to go. 512 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 7: All right, Oh okay o, good lucky you be. 513 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: You're very welcome, sir. Thanks for tuning in. You need more, 514 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: you know where to find me. 515 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 7: All right, thank you, You're very welcome. 516 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,199 Speaker 1: You'll be well, you'd be well. Yeah, tell you what 517 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: working on the older cars is. It's gonna be black 518 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: magic soon A five five, five six zero nine nine 519 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: zero zero. The Car Doctor's coming back right after this. 520 00:26:51,119 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: Don't go away. Welcome back running in the car doctor 521 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: real quick. Let's go over to Brock and Iowa Brock. 522 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car Doctor, Strong. What's going on? 523 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 8: Thanks? Well, I was calling about that Dodge pickup that 524 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 8: you were having trouble getting getting it to take fuel. 525 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 526 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, So I've had about three different Mercedes cars that 527 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 8: have had that very similar situation. You go to the 528 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 8: gas station, you try to put gas in it, you 529 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 8: get about two gallons, and then it clicks the handle 530 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 8: off and you got to sit there and play that 531 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 8: game for fifteen minutes trying to put gas in your car. 532 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 8: So on each of those cars that I had on 533 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 8: what it ended up being was that the carbon canister 534 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 8: had some sort of blockage in it, you know, and 535 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 8: I kind of cheated. I cut them open, gutted everything 536 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 8: out of it, took all that granular carbon out of it, 537 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 8: took the filter media out of it, and then reassembled it, 538 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 8: glued it back together, hooked all the hoses back up. 539 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 8: After that, each of those cars took gas, no problem. 540 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder what that canister costs new from eighties. 541 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 8: Probably afford there, you know, fifteen hundred bucks or more. 542 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 8: So that's kind of why I hated it and just 543 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 8: got it. Yeah, of course, question I think you could 544 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 8: probably just yeah, question that line. 545 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: Well, of course, you know, I can't do that because 546 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: then I'm violating federal missions. 547 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 8: Laws, right, No, I understand that. But to diagnose that 548 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 8: you could just disconnect. 549 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: Sure, well yeah, and that's where that's that's where we're 550 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: going on Monday. I'm gonna I'm gonna disconnect the canister 551 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: line at the tank itself. And you know the point 552 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: of that opening conversation. And I appreciate your thought, Listen. 553 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: I love it every time you guys call up and 554 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: share stuff with me, because that's how we all learn 555 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: right is look at the look at the insanity of that. 556 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's either an eight hundred dollars fuel tank 557 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: or a six hundred dollars fuel pump because they can't 558 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: and there's no way to and there's there's no way 559 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: to diagnose that, there's no way to separate it. It's 560 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: it's And that's part of the problem with cars. There's 561 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: there's you know, sometimes it's take a known good part 562 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: off the shelf and put it on, and then you 563 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: wonder if it's really, you know, what's known good because 564 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, we know what news stands were right never 565 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: ever worked, and you know, how do you how do 566 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: you how do you know? You know it's it's But yeah, 567 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: now that's what that's what will happened Monday. Monday, I'll 568 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: disconnect it at the canister and I'll take my twelve 569 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: hundred dollars more scope and I'll look up the canister 570 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: feed line for spiders or spider webs or something, you know, 571 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: and it's it's all kind of goofy, but yeah, yep, well, listen, 572 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate the thought. Brought everything else good out. 573 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 8: That way, Iowa way, Yep, everything's good. 574 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: Cool man, all right, listen, go have a great rest 575 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: of the weekend, and thanks for tuning in. 576 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 8: Thanks you too, You're welcome. 577 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: I want to give a tip of the hat to 578 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: my engineer in my two minutes here because Tom Ray, 579 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what Tom. Tom was sick beginning of 580 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: the week. Hey, feeling today, Tom, because you, uh, you're 581 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: you're looking a lot better. 582 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 4: I'm feeling a lot better. I thought I was going 583 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,959 Speaker 4: to die on Monday. 584 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, you're you're a little pasty looking today. 585 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad you're on camera, and as much as 586 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm miss seeing you, I'm glad I don't have to 587 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: be in the same room with you from your looks. 588 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 4: But well, it's just so listeners want to know. I 589 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 4: had lunch last Friday with my son, and my son 590 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 4: on Saturday morning announced that he had come down with COVID. 591 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: So guess who got hit with it on on Sunday afternoon. 592 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: Well, you know, if you can't get it from your family, Tom, 593 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean, what good his family? 594 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 4: So it's nice to keep it in the family, you know. 595 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: But you know, you're not as pasty looking as I 596 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: think you're going to be tomorrow. What time do the 597 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: Giants play Dallas. 598 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 4: The massacre begins at four twenty five. 599 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so I just wanted to be sure. So I'm 600 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: going to have a massacre party. I've got pretzels, I've 601 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: got dip, I've got the little hot dogs, the little 602 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: weenies and stuff, because I say, we go for the 603 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: number one round draft pick for the next five years, 604 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: and the way they're playing, they're sure to get. 605 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 4: That only makes sense. 606 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: You know, that only makes sense. Then you look at 607 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: the Jets. 608 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 4: At least it's fun watching the Jets, but the Giants. 609 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well, you know, it just shows you 610 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: how cock eyed the world really is on all faces, 611 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: in all stages. So eight five five five six zero 612 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero Running any of the Car Doctor. 613 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: We'll return right after this. Don't go away, Welcome back 614 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: Running the Car Doctor. You know, unless you were at 615 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: my daughter's wedding, I don't think you've heard this story 616 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: because I don't really share it that often. And you know, 617 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to do something and talk a little bit 618 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: about Veterans Day and what it means and what it 619 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: means to me. And I'm going to step out of 620 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: character as the mechanic on radio here for a minute, 621 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: and I want to share this with you because I 622 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: think we need to in these in these perilous times, 623 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: I think we need to talk to each other heart 624 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: to heart. Someone from the gym said to me the 625 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: other day they enjoyed listening to the show. They said, 626 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: they're not a car person, but Sam told me he 627 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: really appreciates it when I you know, when I when 628 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: I talk heartfelt, and you know, every once in a while, 629 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: I guess that pops up. I guess that's my character. 630 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 3: Right. 631 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: Our middle daughter joined the army, oh jeez, you know, 632 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: and this is ten years ago now, and she went 633 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: to Afghanistan, and it really you know, as a parent, 634 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: I always think of the veterans, and I always think 635 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: of the parents being a parent of a soldier, you know, 636 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: you just it just affects you, no matter what you say, 637 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: it just does right your your your heart goes out, 638 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: and it just your stomach always has a pit in it. 639 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: And off to Afghanistan. She went with all the hope 640 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: and spirit that I would expect of her, because she's 641 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: that kind of a person. And you know, we talked, 642 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: We talked pretty much every week by satellite phone and 643 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: just you know, a couple of interesting conversations, a couple 644 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: of you know, what's that noise in the background, And 645 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: she said, oh, somebody tripped the wire around the perimeter. 646 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: She was at bager Mairfield, and you know, somebody might 647 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: become you might hear a mine explode. And sure enough 648 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: I heard the mine explode. And then the phone went dead. 649 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: And then five minutes later she called me back and 650 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: everything was okay because she was in an eight foot 651 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: concrete bunker, you know. And this is this is how 652 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: you let your kid go off to war, and you're 653 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: always thinking about it. And then one day the phone 654 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: call stopped. I didn't get any phone calls. And it 655 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: went on one week, two weeks, three weeks, and you know, 656 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: you're you're you're sitting there and you're you're wondering what's 657 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: going on. Well, you know, I have to tell you 658 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: the backside of the story. Prior to her leaving, I 659 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, had every I guess everybody had their coping mechanism. 660 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: I had taken a small American flag, a garden flag, 661 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: to our priest, and I had it blessed and I 662 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: had it prayed over, and I put it on the 663 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: front lawn of the house, and I was told, you know, 664 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: it will fly there every day and it will remind 665 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: you that she's safe and that she's doing service and 666 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: she he's you know, protecting the country, and that's what 667 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: it's all about. Well, the day the phone call stopped, 668 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: the flag was gone. That morning. I got up that 669 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: morning and I looked out the window because I looked 670 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: out the window every morning, and I saw that flag, 671 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: and I knew she was okay. And the first morning 672 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: I looked out there and the flag was gone, and 673 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: I didn't get that phone call that day. I went, 674 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: uh uh. So I spent three and a half weeks 675 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: waiting for that car to come down the street and 676 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, that green car with the white letters on 677 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: it and like you see in the movies, and never 678 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: saw it. And I really started to get nervous. But 679 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: I had faith and I had hope. And then one 680 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: day at night, on a Thursday, as a matter of fact, 681 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: about seven thirty, there was a knock at the door 682 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,280 Speaker 1: and it was our neighbor across the street, Missus Schneider short, 683 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: little German Polish lady, very particular, is this yours? And 684 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: she had the flag and a small clear plastic bag, 685 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, where'd you find it? She says, 686 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: I found it in the house, in the backyard of 687 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: my house the night of the windstorm. And she took it, 688 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: she cleaned it, she washed it, she ironed it, and 689 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: she took it around the neighborho and she said, this 690 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: is Ronnie's. I put the flag up. My daughter called 691 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: the next day. There's faith, there's hope. Thank our veterans 692 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: for it, and everybody take good care. I'm not on 693 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: an inium. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 694 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 3: City