WEBVTT - The Group Chat Episode 19: Group Therapy 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.280 Hey guys, this week on the group Chats, we're going 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.600 to change things up a little bit and it's actually 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:09.280 going to be group therapy. Why can't we acknowledge that 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:11.399 the guy who was never supposed to be here as 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.800 an undrafted quarterback is not a reason this team is losing, 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:17.880 but a reason that this team has been fairly competitive. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.400 And then as we preview this Atlanta Falcons matchup, we 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:25.520 embarrass ourselves by trying to wrap Alex Arma is gonna 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:29.320 whoop up on your grandma? Yeah, it's pretty bad. I 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.320 think it's a grandmama. And we have this and so 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:46.239 much more on this week's the group Chat. You've been 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.520 added to the group chat with your friends Caroline, can, 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:56.400 Max Sensen, and Will Brian the group Chat this week. 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.880 I already feel like it has a different vibe. It 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:05.320 feels different in here because are remember here is frustrated. 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.920 Max looks a little vibe. You look a little it's intense, 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.320 look a little angry. Maybe the rap music, you know, 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.360 it was getting you in the mood here to get 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:17.280 you ready to some some game time here we do 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:21.000 we need to have a therapy session. That was bad. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.800 That was bad? Okay, do you want to do over? 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:27.560 Can I do that again? Do not cut that from 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:32.000 the final Oh god, I'm not doing it again. Okay, 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:34.360 you're just gonna live with that one. I've done it better, 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:35.760 but I'm not going to try it again because then 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.840 if I did it bad twice, then you only get 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.200 one shot. Yeah, that's true. You can make a way 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.440 one opportunity. Yeah that should be in a song. All right, 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:45.520 you may have just redeemed yourself there. We are going 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:49.960 to get to some embarrassing rap rhymes that we have 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.559 written ourselves. But first we have to address something because 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.600 when when I remember of the team is hurt or 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.480 frustrated or I'm not sure what's going on in Max's 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:01.160 world right now, but I can feel the tension. We 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:05.240 need to talk about it. Somting Max, how are you doing? 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:10.079 I'm fine. We've talked about, um, Twitter being a dark 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:15.720 place before on this show, I believe, and unfortunately, Uh, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.000 it's a large part of what I have to do 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.760 on a daily basis beyond there and then obviously we're 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:28.160 sharing news and stories everything milestone um. But yeah, I mean, 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.960 I just have to say I'm very frustrated at the 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:39.160 moment with the reaction to Kyle Allen's performance, and they're 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.520 being from a not everybody, but from a certainly a 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:46.400 vocal segment of the Twitter verse out there that just 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.639 immediately wants to compare everything he does to Cam Newton 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:54.320 and and really tear down Kyle in the process, when 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.000 from my vantage point, and I know from the vantage 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:00.160 point of the guys that Kyle is playing with, the 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.440 guy has done everything he possibly can to keep this 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:05.519 team alive. I mean, to try to salvage a season. 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.960 I mean, how many teams, if you were to say 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.959 we're gonna lose their starting quarterback after Week two, are 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.959 still sitting here in the fight for a playoffs? But 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.519 I don't I don't think very many. But Kyle, who 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.680 has only lost two career games, one of them being 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.320 at lambeau Field in the snow against Aaron Rodgers and 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.360 the other two a team that just lost his first 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.760 game the season, the Sancisco for Niners, I feel like 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:33.040 is under such heavy scrutiny after every incompletion, after every mistake, 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:34.760 and I just don't and maybe you guys can help 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.480 me understand, I just don't understand why he's being held 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.640 to this sort of impossible standard. And for me, like 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.800 look I was, I've always been a big Camp supporter 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:46.160 throughout his time, and he's taken a lot of heat 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:50.000 throughout his career. But Cam Newton was not a perfect quarterback. 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.520 No one is Aaron Rodgers. But the week ago had 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:55.560 a hundred sixty one passing yards and a loss to 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:58.960 the Chargers. He is the gold standard of the quarterback position. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:01.600 These these guys are not perfect. Why were we expecting 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:04.680 Kyle Allen to be perfect? And why can't we acknowledge 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.760 that the guy who was never supposed to be here 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:10.840 as an undrafted quarterback who was benched twice in his 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:14.920 college career, he's done nothing but overcome all of that 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.240 and earned his way onto this team and into the lineup. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.480 And for what I'm seeing, his not a reason this 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.760 team is losing, but a reason that this team has 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:29.800 been fairly competitive of late. Do do people remember how 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:33.119 the record of Cam when he started his first ten games, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.960 Cam started two and eight. We're not talking Kyle, and 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.479 we're not talking about a guy who's been around for 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.119 several years. We're talking about, essentially a guy who hasn't 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.760 completed a full season of sixteen games. It wasn't drafted, 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:49.279 and look, the fumbled snap a huge mistake, very costly. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.000 The interception in the end zone another one. Kyle owns 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.640 up to that, but I don't understand why, Like, if 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.200 we're going to expect him not to make any mistakes, 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.159 then I just don't. I don't think it's a sensible, 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:05.240 rational way to look at this. I mean, this is 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.119 a guy that you know is going to be making 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.320 some he's still learning and growing as a young quarterback 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.279 in this league. But why can't if you're a Panther fan, 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.159 get behind him and support him through that instead of 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.800 this having to be a constant. Well, when he makes 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.000 a mistake, now it's oh, well, you know that wouldn't 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.240 this wouldn't have happened with Cam or if we have Cam, 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.240 he runs it in on that two point conversion. They're 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.040 not They're not the same quarterback. They're never going to 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:29.680 be close to the same quarterback with their strengths and weaknesses. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.359 So I'm just very frustrated with the fact that it 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:35.840 seems like we can't get away from doing this, especially 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.719 in from what I see in the in the Twitter verse. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:41.000 And I get that people are blaming the media, largely 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.839 because this is I feel a media narrative that's can 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.159 verse Kyle and people want to make a decision right now, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:49.599 is to what the future is gonna look like for 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.000 this team. I think we got it. What was a 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.039 Good Morning Football who just at a recent segment of 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:54.800 whether Kyle Allen is the future of this team? And 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:56.520 I get that that could be a fresh source of 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.280 frustration for people who love Cam Newton, and I just 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.200 think we have the power to kind of make our 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.120 own decisions and we can watch this team however we 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.160 choose to. And if I were a Panther fan, I 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.800 would watch this team which is five and four right now, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.400 trying to beat Atlanta next week and remain in the 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.919 playoff hunt, and get behind the quarterback who's giving you 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.560 everything he's got and I don't think he's letting you down. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:23.880 I mean, if you expect flawless from Kyle Allen, then 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.600 I don't know what to tell you. But I think 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.599 he's what he's done right now as what six and 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.839 two as a starter in this league is he's giving 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.760 you a chance. And we talk all offseason about wanting 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:37.080 to see real football games, and we've got them here 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:40.400 and these games count, you know, like they're in it. Uh, 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.680 and so that's that that's that's been frustrating for me 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.520 to watch this continued unfold because it just doesn't doesn't 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.960 seem fair, doesn't seem sensible to me either. You know, 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.680 who needs to come on here, seriously, listen, that's just 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.640 the prerecorsite the Southern Mama coming on here. I'll say 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.480 this about the Kyle Allen Cam Newton comparison. I think 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:02.440 it's lazy because as comparing Kyle Allen and Cam Newton 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.760 is very easy to do. Kyle Allen is closer to 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:11.120 a Daniel Jones and Eli Manning esque type of quarterback 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:13.880 in his presence in the way that you know, they're 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:16.120 making fun of Daniel Jones coming with a book bag 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.360 on like he's coming out of his like freshman orientation 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.160 at college. And I think that is more toward the 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:26.800 Kyle Allen, whereas Cam Newton is very big personality, always 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.000 running up, you know, to cameras and and and the 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.720 kids and wanting that spotlight. And that's who Cam Newton 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:33.640 is and that's why people have grown to love him. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:38.160 And he has this superman esque personality about him and 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:42.040 Kyle just doesn't. That's not Kyle. He's you know, not 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.360 that huge personality outside of the locker room. He's not 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.400 going to be running out of the tunnel with his 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:50.360 hands out like he's flying. That's just not going to 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.080 be Kyle Allen. So when people jump on Twitter and 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.920 compare the two, I just roll my eyes, like, stop 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.800 being lazy. If you want to compare them based off 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.680 of actual stats in the way that they're playing in 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:05.600 the game and what they're doing, you don't have an argument. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.080 There is nothing there for you to do. So I 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.520 think people are just getting called up in who Cam 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.800 Newton is as a person. And we all love Cam Newton. 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.720 He's done such amazing things for this organization and we 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.600 are by no means saying that that's done. But it's 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:22.880 just stop being lazy in this argument and comparing the two, 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:24.960 because it is very easy to put the two of 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.760 them up against each other and see their differences. And 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:32.800 I just ever, I've I've yet to read a anything 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.280 whether it's on you know here, it on TV, or 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:36.880 read anything on Twitter that I'm like, you know what, 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.319 that's a good point. I found a couple a couple 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.800 of people came out because guy was getting getting into 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.600 some back and force with people about this a little bit, 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:46.760 and there was there were those I was like, oh, Okay, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:51.959 finally someone who I think gets it, because again, I 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:54.199 think the frustration is not so much what's happening right now. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.959 It's the looking into the future, right It's the the 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.160 hardcore Cam Newton fan out there is so you know, 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:06.640 I guess uneasy afraid about this idea that the Cam 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.480 Newton era might be over. And I think so, now 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:14.959 Kyle then becomes the face of this demise and and 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.360 look like I know that, Like that's something that's going 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.800 on out there in the media. This is a discussion 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.160 that's happening, and I think people are frustrated by that, 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:24.480 and then they sort of take it out as they're 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:26.400 watching the game. And so like then when I say 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:29.520 something about Kyle Allen performing well, then it becomes well, 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.600 I don't I don't want that to happen because I 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.480 want to see Cam come back into the fold. And 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.600 so like that's sort of what's happening here. But no 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.680 one's a bigger support of Kyle, the Cam Newton you know, 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.839 this whole team. And again it's like months from now, 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.880 we can have this discussion and this team will have 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.240 discussions about what they're gonna do for the future, and 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:54.800 they're going to take that necessary time before they have it. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.079 Right now, this team is trying to be in Atlanta. 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.719 That's like, that's the that's the reality of the situation 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:01.360 is you're in the middle of the season and you're 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.160 fighting for a playoff spot, and Kyle Allen's the quarterback, 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:06.480 whether whether you like that or not, Like Cam's not 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:08.920 coming back, I mean, he's on I R I mean 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:10.720 he's not going back for the rest of the regular season. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.320 So this team has no choice but to get behind Kyle, 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.840 and I wish that everybody could sort of take that 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.320 same approach, but that doesn't seem to be something that's possible. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.440 I will I will say this in terms of the 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.760 fans that are mad, quote unquote mad at the media, 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:30.520 I think for the most case, it's overblown, except when 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.040 you know we were were technically part of this. You know, 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.480 we we write, we write articles on Panthers dot com, 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:40.560 we tweet, We know that when you put Cam Newton 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.280 in the headline, more people click on it. And it's 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.840 gotten to a point now where every Saturday night, every 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:49.840 Sunday morning, these morning shows, all of the morning news 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.160 cycle is an update that's not an update like they 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:56.280 are literally they're coming out with a new report, a 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.640 new something of guess what, Camp's probably not going to 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.000 play for the Panthers next year and it and it 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:05.080 literally is like we're playing the Packers. He's been on 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:09.040 he's he's on I R, he's still on IR. Nothing's changed. Literally, 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.080 nothing has changed. But we're gonna do it again. You 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:13.800 know what's next week going to be? We're gonna do 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:15.920 it again and I do it. You know, there is 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:18.719 you know, that sense of like people being triggered by 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.640 this and they should, you know, maybe not be triggered 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.079 by it. You know, I'll grant that, but it does 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:27.679 kind of feel like there's just this feeding of you know, 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.720 the media needs the clicks, you know, they kind of 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.480 want to keep making that story be the story is 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.959 Cam done? Is Cam done? Is Cam done? And when 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.640 they're keeping there's no new news, there's nothing new. They're 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.360 still just saying that what they said last week. And 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.520 when Kyle does well, it seems like it's, oh, well, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:47.560 Kyle's it, He's got it well and then more years 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:49.640 of Kyle Allen. Yeah, and then and so then of 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.200 course that's going to rouse some people up who may 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.480 not want to see that. And then when he makes 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.240 a mistake, which I think is what really freshman is freshman, 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:01.079 it's then proves that he's not the guy. And we're 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.280 looking at a young quarterback who just went up to 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:07.480 lambeau Field in the snow against Aaron Rodgers. And if 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.760 you if you watch that last drive and don't have 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:12.880 some sort of appreciation for the effort that went into that, 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.840 and I know it wasn't flawless, but that's just that's 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:18.840 kind of sad to me that, like, he goes up 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.480 there against that team in those conditions and there's people 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.000 who want to jump on him for kind of scrambling 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.640 for his life at times and not being able to 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.440 string some completions together. They get down to all the 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.040 way to the two yard line, Christian comes up just 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.760 inches short. I mean, that's that's a valiant effort. And 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:36.440 if you if you don't feel that way, then I 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.200 just we'll we'll never see eye eye because that's that's 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:40.600 to me, the only way you can look at that. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.280 And people want to say you know some of the plays, 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:46.079 you know, near interceptions, Aaron are just through in near 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.400 interception Shack Thompson lay in that game, you know, I mean, 0:12:48.440 --> 0:12:51.959 like these guys the quarterback play in the NFL, watching 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.800 Russell Wilson and leading m v P Cannon against San 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.800 Francisco for it and on it. So it's a horrible interception, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:13:00.680 like overtime, whether they're sending up position to win the 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:04.600 the expectation that Kyle has to be perfect somehow is 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.200 really what I think. That's the real source of my 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.320 frustration is that, um, what we're expecting of this kid, 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.240 at least some people out there. I just I just 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:16.600 don't think. I just don't think it's fair. And we're 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.320 talking about a Panther's team and the reason why they 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.240 didn't win in Green Bay. If we're gonna put that 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:24.839 all on Kyle Allen, please, Aaron Jones yard rushing, three 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.800 touchdowns in the ground Packers rack up a hundred sixty 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:29.880 six yards per carry. I mean, there are other things 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:31.800 we can look at as the reason why Carolina did 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.280 not come out victorious in that game. It's not always 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.199 just don Kyle. I know, its quarterback driven league, but 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.240 it seems to be that that's always where the attention 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.280 is going. They lose a game, it's because Kyle and 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:43.960 if if they would have had a healthy Cam Newton, 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.680 And if they win a game, it's because of Christian McCaffrey. Yeah, 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:50.920 you know, like when they why can't Kyle and Christian 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.280 both contribute to win? You know? But that's just not 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:54.920 the way I think a lot of us want to 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:59.520 look at things. I don't know. I kind of just 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.680 got me right now. You're ready to go. He's about 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.679 ready to jump over the table. Can keep going for 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:10.520 a while, but we can. We can. Bottom line is, no, 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.040 you're not wrong. The bottom line is you can say 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.880 that Kyle Allen is a good quarterback without saying that 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.200 Cam Newton is a bad quarterback. And I think the 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.000 first I think that's that's what it is. I see 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:26.440 this a lot in female reporters, and it's probably the 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.480 same with male reporters too. I'm just a female one, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:34.960 so that's all I know. But people on Twitter will say, oh, 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:40.200 I thought this reporter was good until this reporter. It's like, 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:45.080 maybe they're both good. Like you see this a louder like, 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.320 oh I thought she was pretty until this girl came along. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:52.000 It's like maybe they're both pretty Like there's just there 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:56.960 are things that can exist together. And I think that's 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:00.000 what is happening here with this quarterback situation. Is good 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.760 A job on Marty for having someone on this roster 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.000 that he thought and the coaches thought and everyone thought 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.240 could actually back up Cam Newton and not just be 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.760 a roster you know, spot, And that's what you've got. 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:14.320 So I kind of love that people get riled up 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.480 a little bit just because it is this has been 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.120 a long time with Cam Newton at quarterback, and so 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.480 it is good that they're invested in what this team 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:26.040 has been and may continue to. But Kyle Island is 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.920 making a dang good run here being a starter in 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.520 this league, whether that's for the Carolina Panthers or he 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.240 ends up being trade bait if Cam Newton comes back, 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.800 and all of those things. So just tight there and 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.240 don't say anything that we will screenshot and later bring 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.520 up to you on Twitter. Be careful out there. My 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.080 last thing, I know everyone like everyone loves Cam Newton. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:52.440 I mean, we've enjoyed watching him. He's obviously transformed this franchise. 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.360 He Kyle on his quarterback right now, and I think 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.800 we can appreciate and if the fans out there love 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.560 Am Newton while also rooting for Kyle Allen right now, 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.800 I think you can do that. I don't think you 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.840 have to choose one or the other. And that's just 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.440 what I would hope to see happen as the season 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:11.360 goes on. That's all. That's all I ask. You don't 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.000 have to think Kyle Allen is it is getting the 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:15.640 bus ready for him in the Hall of Fame. You don't. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.440 You don't have to think that. But if you're a 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.880 Panther fan, you can pull for Kyle Allen this team 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.480 to continue to win games while also being a big 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.280 Cam Newton supporter. I think you can do that. You 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:28.400 can have your cake and eat it too. Boy, Glad 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.160 we got that off our chest. You know, I feel better. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.280 I don't know if Max okay, I think I do. 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.400 Thank you for coming to therapy. Everyone that was really 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:40.760 the group chat has turned to group therapy, and that 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.800 was therapeutic for us. Max. Max literally walked in was like, 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:45.800 I can't wait for the group chat this week. I've 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.920 got something. I was impressive. I believe we went about 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.200 twenty minutes there. So if you were still with us, 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.760 thank you. Then if you're all riled up in your 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:57.120 car now on Matt and taking a Twitter, thank you, 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:02.160 it's Panthers. Max tweet at him, all right, we are 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.800 going to get to this Atlanta game though, the Falcons 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:09.159 coming to town off of a big win. Who expected 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:13.439 the Falcons to be the Saint? Come on, we'll just 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:19.000 raising his hand? Did not? Yeah, I was in the 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.640 press box and I said, I really hope the Falcons 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:26.359 beat this. I really hope they play well. I hope 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.760 is different, but they are Listen, the Falcons didn't. It 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.880 was one of those games where I heard the final 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:33.680 score and didn't believe that it was the final score. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:35.880 How much time has left there? Like, no, the game's over? 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.040 Oh okay, great? So what this does? It sets the 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.760 NFC South even more ablaze? So what's going to happen? 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.879 So a week ago, if our listeners remember, I said 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.719 three of our ten things that the Panthers need to do, 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.720 one of which was when the coin toss, I said 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.679 they need to pick Hales tails. They didn't do it. 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:56.600 I don't think Hales is an option. Hales is at 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:59.400 an option might have been hales on but how many times? 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:02.080 Has how many times in school did you like try 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.320 and draw like and A that could also look like 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:09.920 a B. So you know, what if what if you 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.320 said hales and they're like, no, it was it was tails? 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.399 I said, yeah, I said that. I said that's what 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:17.520 they were trying to do. Yeah, but yeah, no, they 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.960 got it wrong again and Green Bay came down and 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.360 scored opening drive a second half. I don't think that's 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:27.080 insignificant that there were one in eight on coin tosses 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:30.880 this year, and then the flags, the penalties that I mentioned, 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:34.680 those were big and and honestly, I think after the 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.480 recent results of the weekend, I still think the best 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:42.480 path to the playoffs is through New Orleans. I mean, Minnesota, Seattle, 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:45.200 they I mean they look good. Like these wild card 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.560 spots are are going to be tough to get. I 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.520 think it's through New Orleans. It is certainly it just 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.879 the NFC South is is definitely more interesting now. But 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:59.320 that NFC wild card spot is just fascinating. So what 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:03.160 we're going to do to embarrass ourselves this week is 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:08.960 become rappers. Because Atlanta, if you are not aware, is 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:15.800 home to Gucci may ludicrous one Savage who else? So whenever, 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.760 whenever we played in Atlanta, I would always be the 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:23.520 guy on the bus like blasting Welcome to Atlanta, where 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.000 the players play in the right I don't know, things 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:28.119 like every day. Yeah, I would listening to like two 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.160 thousand one Germaine du Prix because that is peak will 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.160 that's I'm so on brand with that. And then Amy 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.400 would hear it from across the aisle and just like 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.920 lose your crap to yourself. You wouldn't even play it 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:41.639 out loud as like a like a joke. No, no, 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.280 it's it's like it's like on my my great Bows 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:52.359 headphones sponsor. Okay, wow, well, well you have to go first. 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.119 Then I'm not at all prepared for this cement, by 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:56.840 the way, I was preparing for my soapbox segment. Yeah, no, 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.440 I was. I was just prepared to do Welcome to Atlanta, 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:03.120 where the play playing at things like every day. We're 0:20:03.160 --> 0:20:05.640 leaning on Caroline for this one. I think, Oh man, 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:09.040 I did. I did make up something on the elevator. Ok. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.560 When it was not good, it's not good. It's also 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:18.840 on brand. Okay, Well, oh, I guess I'm going first, 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.560 and we're gonna share it or now it was something 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.480 about Alex Arma. Alex Arma was gonna whip out on 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.800 your grandma. Yeah, it's pretty bad. I think it's a grandmama, 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:34.399 and then says Armas from like near Atlanta. Are we 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:37.240 trying to try to rhyme? I don't know, like Arma, 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.880 it's hard to have wold you rhyme with Alex Arma? 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.359 Why do you Alex Arma? I don't know, because I 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:45.480 feel like Alex Armas from Georgia and he needs a 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.280 big game. We need more Alex Arma in our lives. 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.080 And no one told you you had to rhyme something 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:50.919