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Speaker 1: But it's not like a one aunt builds that entire colony,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, Yeah, it's every single

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Speaker 1: one working together, more.

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Speaker 2: Better, more and better, more, a little better, more and more.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to More Better, a podcast where we stop pretending

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Speaker 3: to have it all together and embrace the journey of

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Speaker 3: becoming a little more better every day.

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Speaker 4: That's most of a Mara And that's Stephanie Beatrice. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: here we are. We're just really doing it.

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Speaker 1: You guys, thanks for tuning in once again to the Shenanigans.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 4: What are you doing this week? That's more better? Uh,

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Speaker 4: let's see.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to be okay with uh my snacking habits.

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Speaker 1: I may or may not have had an entire king

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Speaker 4: I love that. Yeah, it was good. I like Twigs.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, They're a delight. I also did a late

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Speaker 4: You were gonna say I did a late night slut.

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Speaker 5: I was like, tell me.

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Speaker 3: More, No, it's a late night snack and you know what,

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Speaker 3: and sure it was. And I dragged my husband into

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Speaker 3: it too. He had half the snack. Now this does

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it was late night snacks are fun? Really, I'm

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Speaker 3: talking about food, Yeah, sure, more better.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, we're talking about something really important today with someone

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Speaker 3: And like just doing it online doesn't feel like enough

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Speaker 3: And then you know, and civic duty that one, I mean,

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Speaker 4: We're so happy to have you here, excited to be here.

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Speaker 5: My mom was always someone who was taking us to volunteer.

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Speaker 4: All those names, so much lessons. Yeah, we're so lucky

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Speaker 5: So I mean, I would say two things to that.

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Speaker 1: That's I never feel like the smartest person in the

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I get nervous.

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Speaker 5: Well. It's interesting because Mexico just had their election and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so important. We didn't talk about how we

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Speaker 4: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 5: what this is about humanity. You know, I'm from the border.

437
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Speaker 5: I grew up on the border. This is an issue

438
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 5: that I feel very connected to and so it's easy

439
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 5: for me to show up, and it's easy for the

440
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Speaker 5: organization to provide opportunities to others who may or may

441
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Speaker 5: not have any connection to the border or any connection

442
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Speaker 5: to asylum seekers or refugees. But guess what, you know,

443
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Speaker 5: we have like a pride of us coming up and

444
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Speaker 5: that's around you know, LGBTQ asylum seekers. So if someone

445
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Speaker 5: is really passionate about the LGBTQ community, there's an entry

446
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Speaker 5: point there, you know. Or a lot of the asylum

447
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 5: seekers that we're seeing coming through have had to come

448
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Speaker 5: because of climate change and because of the lessening of

449
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Speaker 5: opportunities that they have in their own home country, And

450
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Speaker 5: so if you care about climate like, there's an entry

451
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Speaker 5: point for you. So I think there's there's a lot

452
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Speaker 5: of ways to find connection to causes. But for someone

453
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Speaker 5: who maybe like you've never really gotten behind anything, or

454
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Speaker 5: you've never had the time, or you're just sort of

455
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Speaker 5: starting out in this, maybe you just had kids and

456
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Speaker 5: you're like, I want to be finding a way to

457
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Speaker 5: be more engaged with the kids. I always say, you know,

458
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Speaker 5: look around your local community to like what is happening.

459
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Speaker 5: And that's why like local journalism is so important because

460
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Speaker 5: this is where we read about stuff that's happening, you know,

461
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Speaker 5: in our neighborhood. We learn about what kinds of decisions

462
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Speaker 5: are being made about, you know, schools and parks and

463
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Speaker 5: access to different services and things like that. So I think,

464
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Speaker 5: not feeling like we all have to be superheroes and attack,

465
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Speaker 5: you know, tackle everything, but just starting with something that's

466
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Speaker 5: like really you know, feels close to your heart, I

467
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Speaker 5: think is great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such a good tip, Like just start small.

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Speaker 2: Better.

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Speaker 3: How do you elsa avoid like just getting burnt out

471
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Speaker 3: to burn out?

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Speaker 5: So I always know in the morning, I'm going to

473
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Speaker 5: get my workout in, I'm going to do that, I'm

474
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Speaker 5: going to have my coffee like I'm going to do

475
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Speaker 5: my routine. That really sets me up, sets me up

476
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Speaker 5: for success. So even when I do a trip to

477
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Speaker 5: the border, like I'm getting my work out in, I

478
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 5: get my things because that way I can be a

479
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 5: more effective giver. That's the first thing. So I try

480
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Speaker 5: to unsubscribe to mom guilt and do the things that

481
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Speaker 5: make me truly happy, and that way I can be

482
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Speaker 5: a better, you know, better service to others. Second thing

483
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Speaker 5: is I stopped trying to make sure everything I was

484
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Speaker 5: doing was at one hundred percent because it was just impossible.

485
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Speaker 5: So I feel like I'm kind of doing everything around

486
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Speaker 5: like forty percent, but it feels good enough, and nobody

487
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Speaker 5: seems to be really clocking that it's that. It's that,

488
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Speaker 5: but but I think.

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Speaker 1: That's I remember you saying, like, yeah, I just wanted

490
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Speaker 1: to I wanted to make sure that I showed up

491
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Speaker 1: to like an event. You were like, I wanted to

492
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Speaker 1: make sure I showed up. I can only stay for

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Speaker 1: this amount of time, but I wanted to make sure

494
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Speaker 1: I showed up and say a hi to the organizers

495
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Speaker 1: and say I appreciate being here and I appreciate this is happening.

496
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Speaker 1: And then you bounced, and I was like, that's genius,

497
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Speaker 1: because I don't have to stay for the whole thing

498
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Speaker 1: if I can't hack it. Sometimes I cannot hack showing up,

499
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Speaker 1: but like sometimes I can just hack showing up, like

500
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Speaker 1: I could shack up and.

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Speaker 4: Say thank you and yeah, just show up, show up.

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Speaker 5: That's actually one of my that is one of my

503
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Speaker 5: life hacks, like just show up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And sometimes we don't show up at all because

505
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Speaker 3: we think we have to like give the whole thing

506
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Speaker 3: give the one hundred percent and like that is such

507
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Speaker 3: brilliant permission to just like no, it's the showing up.

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Speaker 5: That's important, and that goes really far. That goes really far,

509
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Speaker 5: especially in the like organizing space, you know, with grassroots organizations,

510
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Speaker 5: with you know, nonprofits, with charities. It's like, you know,

511
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Speaker 5: we don't we don't want to disqualify ourselves before we

512
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Speaker 5: even gave a little. And I think we do do

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Speaker 5: that a lot. We're like, well it said seven to ten,

514
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Speaker 5: so I can't you know, yeah, right, And these organizations

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Speaker 5: would love even just like a little just one half

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Speaker 5: of half an hour, half a day, you know. And

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Speaker 5: they I think they've they've really tried to when you

518
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Speaker 5: look at like, for example, people who canvas right, canvas

519
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 5: is when you go and you knock on doors for

520
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Speaker 5: either like an issue or a candidate or whatnot. They've

521
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Speaker 5: got it down to like, hey, just give us like

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Speaker 5: a shift. It's just an hour, knock on twenty doors,

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Speaker 5: call or text twenty numbers. You know. There's so many

524
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Speaker 5: and that's the other like not everything has to be

525
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Speaker 5: in person. There are so many things that have moved

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Speaker 5: to the internets, as I like to call it, because

527
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Speaker 5: of the world we like today where you can be

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Speaker 5: you know, vote Writers is a great org where you

529
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Speaker 5: can call or text people to let them know what

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Speaker 5: ID they need in whatever state they live in to

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Speaker 5: be equipped to show up and vote and so and

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Speaker 5: that can happen digitally. You can be logging on from

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Speaker 5: your computer. And so I think that there is there

534
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Speaker 5: are so many opportunities that don't actually require your physical presence.

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Speaker 5: That's also a version of showing up. And so I

536
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 5: think that like mom guilt is not just for moms.

537
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 5: Maybe we have like human guilt. And so I think

538
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 5: people sometimes feel like, well, if it isn't good enough,

539
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Speaker 5: you know, maybe I'm not the right person to do this,

540
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Speaker 5: or I can't really get involved, but like you're the

541
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Speaker 5: only person judging it. So like cut yourself in black

542
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Speaker 5: and just show up a little bit, and you can

543
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Speaker 5: be making a difference in so many ways.

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Speaker 4: That's really cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like I mean to use a terrible

546
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: metaphor similarly, don't know, but it's not like a one

547
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: ant builds that entire colony, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,

548
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: it's every single one working together to build all those tunnels,

549
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: to build that huge. You know, I'm thinking about the

550
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: fire ant pile in my front yard right now. That's

551
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: what's Oh God, gotta get.

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Speaker 5: Rid of them scary.

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Speaker 1: I love I love that you talked about online activism

554
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Speaker 1: because I do think a lot of people want to

555
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: do things and it feels like that isn't Like you said,

556
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Speaker 1: it's an easy entry point, especially for young people that like,

557
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: for the youth that spend a lot of their time online.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like in general online activism works. I

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Speaker 1: would say that you you do, right.

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Speaker 5: I do. I think that there's well, I mean, think

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Speaker 5: about young people. Where are young people finding young people?

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Speaker 5: And honestly, it's online, you know. I think that, Like

563
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 5: I look at them and I think, guess what, people

564
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 5: like you guys. You're amazing because you can amplify a

565
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Speaker 5: certain type of situation and help more people find things out.

566
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 5: But when you look at actual influence, the person who's

567
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Speaker 5: on that group chat of seventeen people who's like their

568
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 5: friend groups, not alpha, but just the person who makes

569
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 5: suggestions or is encouraging or whatever. That's the person. So

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Speaker 5: I'm hoping that person sees you and thinks, Okay, I'm

571
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Speaker 5: going to influence my circle of friends that we're all

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Speaker 5: going to go both this year. Like that individual person,

573
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Speaker 5: this individual person listening right now has all the power.

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Speaker 2: More better.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Elsa, We're so glad you were here with us. Wait.

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Speaker 1: I came away from this realizing that I have a

577
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Speaker 1: lot of power of my group chats.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's such a big one. Why did you take away?

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Speaker 3: My takeaway is, oh my god, unsubscribed for mom Guild

580
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: is going to be my new catchphrase in general in life,

581
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: especially with this topic and also just the like showing

582
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: up at whatever percent, it doesn't have to be one

583
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 3: hundred percent that those two are really who hit me

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Speaker 3: right where I needed it.

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Speaker 4: Do you feel more better? Stuff?

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00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? I feel I feel more better. I started this

587
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: by talking about how can I get Samaritan? And I realize,

588
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: like I can do stuff without getting out of the

589
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: getting out of the car, you know, I can. I

590
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: mean sometimes I do need to get out of the car.

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00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: That's the other thing, like sometimes I can get out

592
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: of the car and help. But being able to know

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00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: that I'm not failing. I'm just doing it in different ways.

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00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm doing it in the ways that I can with

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Speaker 1: my limited time and access to you know, an open schedule,

596
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: completely open schedule where I can do this every day.

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00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: It's like and also I kind of learned that, like, ah,

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Speaker 1: maybe I want to do like more stuff around I

599
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: mean I used to do a lot of like, uh

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Speaker 1: stuff around dog.

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Speaker 5: Adoption, particularly like a year.

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Speaker 1: I remember it's really close to my heart and like

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Speaker 1: that that's something that I could incorporate in this Yeah,

604
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: back to it's it doesn't have anything to do with

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00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: like voting or anything, but it's Oh, but it's to

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00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: my heart that I care about. Mel Do you feel

607
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: a little more better?

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Speaker 4: I feel way more better. And I feel like I'm

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00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: doing I feel like you're amped up right now.

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 4: My energy went up through this conversation.

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00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 3: And I'm doing a fun event with Elsa this Saturday

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Speaker 3: in Arizona for abortion rights and women reproductive health. And

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Speaker 3: I am very excited now also because I get to

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Speaker 3: spend the day with Elsa.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be We're gonna have a great time. And

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Speaker 5: I think again, look look around your community. Don't be

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Speaker 5: afraid to like be the one to make a suggestion

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Speaker 5: to your group, chat, your group of friends. Yeah, you're

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00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 5: gonna feel more better if you if you show up

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Speaker 5: even a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, classy, classy, way to drop the title of the

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Speaker 1: pod right there at the end.

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Speaker 6: First of all, just spending this time with you has been,

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00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 6: has been, has made me feel more better. Whenever I'm

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Speaker 6: with you, guys, I feel more better And I hope

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Speaker 6: that's how everybody feels when they hear your podcast.

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