1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: From the Bloomberg Interactive Burgers Studios. His Bloomberg day Break 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: for Monday, June twenty sixth. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: Coming up today, Vladimir Putin faces the biggest challenge to 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: his leadership in Russia in nearly a quarter century. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: The world watches for what's next after Putin's apparent deal 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: with the Wagner Group. Global Team coverage just ahead. 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: One of the biggest bears on Wall Street sees more 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: pain ahead. 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean speak with Elon Musk about his new plans 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: for SpaceX. 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 3: Some very important rulings are expected this week from the 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 3: US Supreme Court. Plus, New York City puts on its 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 3: annual Pride parade. I'm Michael barr more ahead. 14 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 4: Of John stanshowon towards the Yankees rally to beat Texas, 15 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: the Mets blow a lately lost in Philadelphia. 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg day Break, the business 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 5: news you need to start your day in just one 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 5: fifteen minute podcast each morning on Apples, Spotify, the Bloomberg 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 5: Business Appen everywhere you get your podcasts. 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. 21 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: And I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the stories we're following today. 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: Karen We'll get back to the markets in a minute, 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: but we begin with the latest from Russia and the 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: biggest challenge to Vladimir Putin's grip on power in nearly 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: a quarter century. Moscow has lifted anti terror measures that 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: went in place over the weekend after the head of 27 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: the Wagner Group, you have, Geny Progosian, halted his advance 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: on the Russian capital. The Kremlin says it made a 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: deal to end Progosian's mutiny broker by the President of Belarus, 30 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: but former UK Defense Secretary Philip Hammon says this might 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: not be the end of the rebellion. 32 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 6: Mister Progoshin has been vocal in his calls for changes 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 6: at the top of the Russian Defense Ministry, the Russian military. 34 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 6: We will only find out over time whether any changes 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 6: are going to be made. We don't know what the 36 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 6: deal is that's been done. 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: Former British Defense Secretary Philip Hammond tells Bloomberg it is 38 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: difficult to imagine Putin coming out stronger from this weekend's events. 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, there's not much public reaction out of the 40 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: Kremlin since the deal was broken. Bloomberg's Greg Sullivan begins 41 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: our global team coverage from Budapest. 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 7: After the deal was announced and confirmed by the Crimeline, 43 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 7: we have seen a mostly siren crimline since then. We 44 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 7: have not seen President of Vladimir Putin publicly since he 45 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 7: gave his Saturday TV address in which he called the 46 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 7: Wagner Group's actions treasonous, even Pregoton himself. You're getting Prevot 47 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 7: in the head of the mercenary of the Wagner Group. 48 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 7: He's often voicisterous in public, and he has been largely 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 7: out of public view since then as well, leaving a 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 7: call that leaves a certain nervousness, unsettlementness from the events 51 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 7: of the weekend and room for focusing on the questions 52 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 7: of what does it mean? What are the implications of 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 7: what transpired over the weekend, and that seems to be 54 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 7: where the focus is now. 55 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: And Bloomberg's Reg Sullivan reports one Kremlin figure has made 56 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: an appearance since the weekend mutiny. Russian Defense Minister Sergei 57 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: Shoigu has seen inspecting groups in Ukraine today. Shoiku has 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: been the focus of Eugeni Progorihin's harshest criticism. 59 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: And Karen, we have been hearing reaction from the White 60 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: House over this weekend's events. Amy Morris continues our team 61 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: coverage from the Bloomberg ninety nine to one newsroom in Washington. 62 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 8: Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln told ABC's This Week the 63 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 8: rebellion showed cracks in Putin's authority. 64 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 9: A direct challenge surfacing very publicly. The notion that this war, 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 9: the suggression by Russia, was being pursued under false pretenses. 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 9: The notion that Ukraine or NATO somehow presented a threat 67 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 9: to Russia that it had to deal with militarily. That's 68 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 9: now much more out in the open than it's been. 69 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 8: Secretary of State b Lincoln says the uprising is a 70 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 8: distraction that can help Ukraine. Meanwhile, he says the US 71 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 8: is in contact with Russian officials about the safety of 72 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 8: US personnel and citizens in the region in Washington. I'm 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 8: Amy Morris, Bloomberg Daybreak. 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: All right, Amy, thank you about the ruble hit its 75 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: weakest level and fifteen months following the events, But overall 76 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: market reaction has been pretty muted. Bloomberg's Valery tied Till 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: continues our team coverage from London. 78 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 10: You'd expect if there was a real threat of some 79 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 10: instability in Russia, a civil war in Russia that would 80 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 10: really impact the Euro, and not just the Euro but 81 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 10: other surrounding countries to Russia. So I'm thinking Poland, check Hungary. 82 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 10: But all of those currencies are still holding up pretty 83 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 10: well today. And even in the commodity space, you know, 84 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 10: there's not a huge risk off bid. When it comes 85 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 10: to gold, it's up slightly, but not enough really to 86 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 10: call it a risk off move. And then oil, if 87 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 10: we did have an unrests on our hands, you'd expect 88 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 10: oil to shoot way higher. 89 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: In Bloomberg's Valery title reporting, we're checking oil right now 90 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: and I'm eke screw to oil a little change at 91 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: sixty nine dollars twelve cents a barrel. Brent also a 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: little change, it's seventy three dollars eighty nine cents. 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: As for US futures, Karen, they're a bit lower this morning, 94 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 2: following the S and P five hundreds, worst weeks since March, 95 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: and one of the biggest bears on Wall Street says 96 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: there could be more pain ahead. Morgan Stanley's Michael Wilson 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: expects the benchmark index to end this year at thirty 98 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: nine one hundred, that's about ten percent below Friday's closed 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: before rising to forty two hundred in the second quarter 100 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: of next year. Wilson says, quote the headwinds significantly outweigh 101 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: the tailwinds, and we believe risks for a major correction 102 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: have rarely been higher. 103 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: And Nathan shares of Tesla are down more than two percent. 104 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: In early trading, the automaker was downgraded to neutral from 105 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: buy at Goldman Sachs. Analysts at the firm sited the 106 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: recent run up in the stock, as well as a 107 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: difficult pricing environment for new vehicles well. 108 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 2: In a wide ranging interview with Bloomberg, Tesla CEO Elon 109 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: Musk says SpaceX has made lots of changes to Starship 110 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: following the vehicle's first test launch in April, which failed 111 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: to rejob at. Musk spoke with Bloomberg senior reporter Ashley 112 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: Vance in a Twitter spaces interview. 113 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 11: There are really a commend stummer. Changes between the last 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 11: social play to end this one are in well over 115 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 11: one thousand, so I think the probability of this next 116 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 11: flight working is getting to allbit is much higher than 117 00:05:59,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 11: the last one. 118 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: Elon muskrates at a sixty percent chance SpaceX reaches orbit. 119 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, after three pandemic summers, A record number of 120 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: Americans will hit the highway this July fourth weekend. Triple 121 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: A predicts more than forty three million motorists will drive 122 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: fifty miles or more from their homes this Independence Day weekend. 123 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: That's four percent more than in twenty nineteen and when 124 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: mark a new record. Triple A says throw and travel 125 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 1: by planes, buses, cruise, ships and trains, and holiday travel 126 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: will hit an all time high of fifty point seven 127 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: million Americans during that weekend. 128 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: Now it's time to take a look at some of 129 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: the other stories making news in New York and around 130 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: the world. For that, we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 131 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: Good morning, Michael, Good. 132 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: Morning, Nathan. The Supreme Court is preparing to unveil its 133 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: decisions and some big cases. The High Court has just 134 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 3: ten opinions left to release over the next week before 135 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: the justices begin their summer break. Some of the most 136 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: contentious issues the Court has wrestled with this term include 137 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: affirmative action, student loans, and gay right. More severe weather 138 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: is moving east today after yet another deadly tornado outbreak. 139 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: At least one death was reported in Martin County, Indiana. 140 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: Another twister left behind a path of destruction yesterday in Bargersville, Indiana. 141 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: Fire Chief Eric Funkhauser. 142 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 11: We're probably looking at right now at least seventy five 143 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 11: homes with moderate to severe damage from the tornado being 144 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 11: on the ground. 145 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: Chief Funkhauser says the twister got a three mile path 146 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: through Johnson County. The Coast Guard has now officially convened 147 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: a Marine Board of Investigation, or MBI, into the loss 148 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: of the Titan submersible. The accident killed all five people 149 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: aboard on their way to the wreckage of the Titant. 150 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 3: Captain Jason Nubauer is the Coastguard Chief Investigator. 151 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 12: The NBI is also responsible for accountability aspects of the incident, 152 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 12: and it can make recommendations to the proper authorities to 153 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 12: pursue civil or criminal sanctions. 154 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: Captain Neubauer says for now, the priority of the investigation 155 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 3: is to recover items from the ocean floor. Pride parades 156 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: took place across the country Sunday, including the nation's largest 157 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: in New York City. Among the celebrities present for the 158 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: fifty third Pride Parade. A New York comedian and activist 159 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: Lea Delaria. The sixty five year oldpamutitor affiliation with the 160 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: organization God's Love We Deliver It began thirty eight years 161 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: ago during the AIDS epidemic, delivering meals to those sick 162 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: and dying of age. Today, Delarius says they'll help anyone 163 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 3: who is in need. 164 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 13: Started in nineteen eighty five, it was mostly for the 165 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 13: age community, but now it's just anybody who needs food, 166 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 13: can't doesn't have access to food, doesn't have access to 167 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 13: the money to have food, and they serve thirteen thousand 168 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 13: meals a day. 169 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: The two mile parade around along Fifth Avenue featured about 170 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 3: one hundred thousand parade participants and an estimated one million spectators. 171 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: Global News tenty four hours a day, powered by more 172 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts in over one 173 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty countries. I'm Michael Lebarr, and this is 174 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Nather. 175 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: Thank you, Michael. 176 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: Time for the Bloomberg Sports Update with John Stenshawer all right. 177 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: Nathan Key, eighth innings for the Yankees and Mets good 178 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: one for the Yanks at the Stadium. They had trail 179 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: Texas three nothing. 180 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: It was three to two. 181 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 4: Yanks had two on swung on and line the love 182 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 4: center field head's a base hit over the head of 183 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: Duran going to the wall. 184 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: Both Bay scores. 185 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: Carbrero scores it is a. 186 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 14: Two run double off the bat of Harrison Vader and 187 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 14: the Yankees take off four to three leads on the wfan. 188 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 4: They went five to three and Aday were their ace. 189 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: Garrett Cole did not have his best stuff failed to 190 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 4: finish the fifth inning, though bullpen again solid with four 191 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: and to a third scoreless innings. Yanks off tonight, start 192 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 4: a road trip tomorrow at lowly Oakland. The A's are 193 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: twenty and sixty. They are flirting with the record similar 194 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: to what the Mets had in nineteen sixty two. These 195 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 4: Mets looked like the nineteen sixty two team bottom the 196 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 4: eighteen in Philadelphia. The phil scored four times. They had 197 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 4: one hit, but the Mets issued three walks, had an air, 198 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 4: and the tyney and go ahead runs both came in 199 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 4: on consecutive hit batsman. Phillies won seven to six. The 200 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: Mets have lost fifteen of their last twenty. They host 201 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 4: Milwaukee tonight. Also tonight, they'll decide the College World Series 202 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: in Omaha, LSU against Florida, who stayed alive by winning 203 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 4: twenty four to four. Gators at twenty three hits, hid 204 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: six home runs. They scored four more runs in four 205 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: different innings. Wimbledon starts tomorrow. Carlos Alcarez has won the 206 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 4: Tune up in England. He's now won tournaments this year 207 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 4: on three surfaces. This was his first ever on grass. 208 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: The twenty year old Alcarez the youngest top seed at 209 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 4: Wimbledon since Boris Becker in the nineteen eighties. 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Following the biggest challenge to Russian President Vladimir 220 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 14: Putin's leadership in nearly a quarter century. The Mercenary Wagner 221 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 14: Group's weekend march to Moscow has ended nearly as soon 222 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 14: as it began after a deal was reached between the 223 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 14: Kremlin and Vagner leader Yevgeny Progosion, an agreement broker by 224 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 14: the President of Belarus. For the latest rejoined live Bloomberg News. 225 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 2: Executive editor for International Government Rosalind Matheson, It's good to 226 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 2: speak with you this morning. Following so much heated rhetoric 227 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: between Progosion and Putin over the weekend and those images 228 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: of the convoys headed to Moscow. Now we enter what 229 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: seems to be a period of uncertainty here. 230 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 11: Well, that's right. 231 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 15: Even though the Wagner Mercenary chief, Progosion, turned his troops around, 232 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 15: seemingly diffusing this moment, there's a lot we still don't know. 233 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 15: We don't even know where Progosion is right now. Is 234 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 15: he on his way to Bielarus? Is he going to 235 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 15: take the bulk of his forces with him? What would 236 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 15: he do if and when he got there? And also 237 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 15: Vladimir Putin, we've not heard from him since Saturday when 238 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 15: he came out to denounce this mutiny. 239 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 10: He's not been seen of either. 240 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 15: What we have seen is footage of the Russian Defense Minister, 241 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 15: who's been the focal point of a lot of this, 242 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 15: footage of him showing up inside Ukraine meeting Russian troops today. 243 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 15: We don't know exactly when that happened, but the footage 244 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 15: is airing on Russian state media this morning. And of 245 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 15: course he's been the one that the Wagner group has 246 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 15: criticized the most and demanded his removal for sort of 247 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 15: failures by the Russian troops on the ground inside Ukraine. 248 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 15: But the two main protagonists, we still don't know anything 249 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 15: much since yesterday. We don't know where Putin is commented publicly, 250 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 15: and neither has Pregos. 251 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: It is interesting to see that the first image of 252 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: a Russian figure to come out of Russian state media 253 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: is the Defence minister and that footage of him inspecting 254 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 2: the troops in Ukraine. What kind of message does that 255 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 2: signal that the Kremlin is trying to send out here. 256 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 8: Well, very much. 257 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 15: What they seem to be doing is trying to send 258 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 15: the message that everything's back to normal and that you know, 259 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 15: Russia's very focused on its war inside Ukraine. The ministers, 260 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 15: they're seeing the troops and rallying them on. They're pushing 261 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 15: back against the Ukrainian counter offensive, and full intents and purposes, 262 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 15: this is over. So you see sort of the streets 263 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 15: of Moscow back to normal, quite quiet. All the roadblocks 264 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 15: have been removed. They're saying markets are open and trading 265 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 15: and so on, and so really the sort of the 266 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 15: sense that they're pushing through state media is that there's 267 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 15: nothing to see here. This moment happened, it's finished, and 268 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 15: let's move on. The reality of that, of course, is 269 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 15: far less clear. There's got to be further ramifications from 270 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 15: this moment. I mean, this was the most overt public 271 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 15: challenge that we've seen so far to the authority of 272 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 15: the Russian president in decades inside Russia, and so surely 273 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 15: there's got to be further fallout from that. 274 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: What's the sense at this point that we have about 275 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: Russian people's support either for President Putin at this point 276 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: or for Yevgeny Progosian. 277 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 15: Well, we do know that Progosian does have a body 278 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 15: of support, and certainly his men seem to be very 279 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 15: loyal to him and quite highly organized. But also Vladimir 280 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 15: Putin has worked very hard to denude the political opposition 281 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 15: in Russia in the years leading up to this invasion, 282 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 15: and certainly keeping quite a close control over the Russian 283 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 15: media and so sort of managing that message. There's no 284 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 15: sense of sort of great unrest coming from this moment 285 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 15: immediately or people coming out onto the streets. And we 286 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 15: do know that within Russia there is at least some 287 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 15: measure of support for the war in Ukraine or at 288 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 15: least resignation about it amongst all gary Russian people. The 289 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 15: question really is, as Vladimir Putin heads towards an election 290 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 15: next year, for example, do the elites start to discuss 291 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 15: amongst themselves, you know, potential to sort of have a 292 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 15: contender against him, or the possibility of sort of life 293 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 15: without Putin in charge. And that's really where the debate 294 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 15: is probably going to start, not at the ordinary sort 295 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 15: of street level, but amongst the elites. 296 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 2: And of course this is coming as Ukraine is mounting 297 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: this counter offensive in the springtime against Russia. This has 298 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: to be something that Ukrainians feel like they can take 299 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: advantage of this period of uncertainty and potential turmoil in Russia. 300 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 15: Well, certainly that could be the case, and they're obviously 301 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 15: pushing their counteroffensive hard at the moment. I mean, what 302 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 15: we can see is that there are still Wagner troops 303 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 15: inside Ukraine. The question is are they going to keep 304 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 15: fighting for Russia. Are they going to transfer over and 305 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 15: just operate under the umbrella of the Russian military? Are 306 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 15: they going to leave entirely because they've been really carrying 307 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 15: the can on a lot of the fighting in the 308 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 15: key areas, because they're more organized and well structured frankly 309 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 15: than the Russian military. So if they go, how does 310 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 15: that affect the conflict on the ground. Does that give 311 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 15: the advantage to the Ukrainians in this moment? Certainly they 312 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 15: would be hoping that that's the case, but it's still 313 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 15: too early to say. 314 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Rosslyn Mathieson, Thanks for being with us this morning, 315 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: our executive editor for International Government. As we continue to 316 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 2: follow developments following the weekend mutiny in Russia, we want 317 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: to turn our attention now to the markets as we 318 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: get ready for the final trading week of the first half. 319 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 2: We're joined live by Laurie Calvacina, head of US Equity 320 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 2: strategy at RBC Capital Markets. Obviously geopolitics is now in focus, Lorie, 321 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: how much of a focus should it be for investors 322 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: at this point? 323 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 16: Well, thanks for having me, Nathan, And look, I think 324 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 16: that what's interesting about the timing of this episode is 325 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 16: that it comes when it really seemed like the stock 326 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 16: market was searching for new narratives. I think, post the 327 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 16: debt ceiling, the set is really short. They're regetting the 328 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 16: focus with a lot of equity investors, and so now 329 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 16: geopolitics has really taken center stage. I think that, you know, 330 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 16: one of the things my colleague and commodity strategy Holing 331 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 16: Macroft has pointed out is that there is just so 332 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 16: much we don't know right now. And you alluded to 333 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 16: the uncertainty earlier. We're not seeing a big reaction in 334 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 16: market so far, whether we're looking at futures or commodities. 335 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 16: I think that makes sense. I think the market knows 336 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 16: what it doesn't know and we have to let this 337 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 16: situation unfold. 338 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: Is this a kind of a situation that the market 339 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: can look past. I mean, we've had a lot of 340 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: uncertainty around monetary policy and so much else for this 341 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: market this year. 342 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 16: So what's also interesting about the time end of this 343 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 16: episode is that sentiment gauges, whether you're looking at the 344 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 16: CFTC data on asset manager position in S and P 345 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 16: five hundred futures or if you're looking at the AAII 346 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 16: survey on net bullishness, those indicators are not technically stretched 347 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 16: yet at a point that would cause us to be 348 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 16: concerned about a short term pullback in markets. But their 349 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 16: recovery has been something that's highlighting that this recovery, this 350 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 16: rally in stocks has had farther to go, and they're 351 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 16: starting to look late innings right now. If I could 352 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 16: use a baseball analogy, so I think that it's happening 353 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 16: just a very interesting time when some of them is 354 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 16: perhaps not precarious yet in terms of being stretched, but 355 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 16: we could see how it could get there pretty fast. 356 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 16: So if markets do sort of march through this in 357 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 16: the short term, we could get to, you know, sort 358 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 16: of a more dire signal. I guess is the way 359 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 16: to put it in those cinemonicators at a time that 360 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 16: we're getting more clarity. I think it's very very hard 361 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 16: to make any big investable conclusions from this right now, 362 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 16: but at the margin. I would say this feels like 363 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 16: something that should contribute to nervousness at a time when 364 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 16: stocks are seasonally under pressure anyway, something investors are very 365 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 16: well aware of. 366 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: And of course we are heading into the second half 367 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: here coming off the worst week for stocks since March. 368 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: As far as the S and P five hundred goes, 369 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: have we topped out as far as the rally goes? 370 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 5: Do you think so? 371 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 16: It's interesting? I mean, we crossed the forty four hundred 372 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 16: more on the S and P. Our target is forty 373 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 16: two fifty, but we have pointed out but some of 374 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 16: our models have pointed to upside to forty six hundred. 375 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 16: We had a couple that were in the forty four 376 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 16: hundred area as well, So we feel like the move 377 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 16: has been pretty rational. The particular model that tells me 378 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 16: that we could go a little bit higher than we've 379 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 16: already seen is based on our valuation work and earning forecast, 380 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 16: so it's probably one of the more robust models that 381 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 16: you know and kind of dependable ones in our data set. 382 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 16: But again, I do think the settiment indicators, which have 383 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 16: really been something that have kept us on board with 384 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 16: being constructive all year. They're starting to look at a 385 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 16: point where if you're trying to make an intermediate term 386 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 16: call on markets beyond, you know, just a month or two, 387 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 16: you start have to start making some caution in what's. 388 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: The earnings out look look like for you heading into 389 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: the second half, given that we are expecting that the 390 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: Fed is going to keep rates higher for longer and 391 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: perhaps notch things up even more heading into the July meeting. 392 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 16: We've got about a minute left, so you know, I 393 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 16: think that multiples are really the intersection with rates themselves 394 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 16: on the earnings themselves. 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