WEBVTT - Shooter Without A Cause

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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to could Happened Here. You're a daily dose

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<v Speaker 2>of something a little unsettling. I'm Molly Conger, your occasional

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<v Speaker 2>host here on this feed, and the host of a

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<v Speaker 2>new weekly show from Kool Zone Media called Weird Little

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<v Speaker 2>Guys that I think you'll probably like. Today, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little shamelessly promoting my own show by giving you a

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<v Speaker 2>little taste of the kinds of stories I like to

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<v Speaker 2>dig into over on the Weird Little Guy's Feed. So,

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<v Speaker 2>remember last month when Donald Trump got shot? I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of don't. It feels like it was years ago. I

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<v Speaker 2>barely remember who I was during those tense few days

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<v Speaker 2>where it seemed possible Trump would ride that momentum to victory,

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<v Speaker 2>imagining posters of that photo of Trump with blood dripping

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<v Speaker 2>down his face, fist raised, and then kind of didn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter at all anymore. The shooter wasn't a Biden sleeper

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<v Speaker 2>agent sent to take down the opposition. He was just

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<v Speaker 2>some kid with a rifle and the kind of uniquely

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<v Speaker 2>American desire to cause chaos with it. And that was

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<v Speaker 2>really hard for a lot of people to swallow. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you mean it doesn't seem like he was politically motivated.

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<v Speaker 2>He shot the former president. He shot him while he

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<v Speaker 2>was on stage at a rally for his campaign to

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<v Speaker 2>retake the presidency. Everything about the situation is political. How

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<v Speaker 2>could the shooter have had any other motivation? Thomas Crooks

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be the first guy to take a shot at

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<v Speaker 2>a president or a presidential candidate for no reason at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Far from it. While I was doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Research for the first episode of my show, which theoretically

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<v Speaker 2>you could pick up your phone and subscribe to right

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<v Speaker 2>now while you're listening if you wanted to, he got

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<v Speaker 2>lost on a few side quests. That's always happening to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But as I breezed past, a quick mention of George Wallace,

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<v Speaker 2>the four term governor of Alabama, best remembered for his

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<v Speaker 2>rallying cry of segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to do it in his accent. I'll spare

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<v Speaker 2>you that. I remember that he got shot while running

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<v Speaker 2>for president too, during the primary in nineteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 2>He was paralyzed after surviving an attempted assassination on the

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<v Speaker 2>campaign trail. Surely, whoever shot a man like George Wallace

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<v Speaker 2>did it? Out of a deep ideological commitment to something right.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe a civil rights activist opposed to Wallace's views on race,

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<v Speaker 2>or a McGovern voter concerned that Wallace's cynical attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>gain the Democratic Party nomination after winning five states as

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<v Speaker 2>a third party candidate in sixty eight might actually work.

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<v Speaker 2>Or maybe it was a diehard Nixon supporter who saw

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<v Speaker 2>Wallace as a spoiler, siphoning conservative votes away from Nixon.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>When Arthur Bremer shot George Wallace four times in the

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<v Speaker 2>chest and stomach on May fifteenth, nineteen seventy two. It

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing at all to do with Wallace's policy positions,

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<v Speaker 2>or Nixon's or McGovern's. It didn't even have really anything

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<v Speaker 2>at all to do with George Wallace. Bremer had been

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<v Speaker 2>planning for months to assassinate Richard Nixon, but it turned

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<v Speaker 2>out that was too hard. He just wanted to shoot

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<v Speaker 2>somebody important. I hesitated to draw too many comparisons to

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump shooter, because there's a lot we still don't

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<v Speaker 2>know and may never know. But it did come out

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<v Speaker 2>early on that Crooks was equally interested in shooting Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump just happened to have a campaign rally close to

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<v Speaker 2>where he lived in Pennsylvania, and that rally happened to

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<v Speaker 2>have weak perimeter security. Crooks had also looked into how

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<v Speaker 2>to get close to FBI Director Christopher Ray, Attorney General

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<v Speaker 2>Merrick Garland, and inexplicably Kate Middleton, Yes, that Kate Middleton,

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<v Speaker 2>the Princess of Wales. If Biden had been campaigning in

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<v Speaker 2>western Pennsylvania, or if Richard Nixon's security hadn't been so tight,

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<v Speaker 2>crooks may have shot Biden and Bremer may have killed Nixon.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't seem like it really mattered to either of

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<v Speaker 2>them who they shot, as long as they shot somewhat important.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the funny things about history is realizing that

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<v Speaker 2>we've always been the way that we are now. There

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<v Speaker 2>truly is nothing new under the sun. Because within hours

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<v Speaker 2>of the attempt on George Wallace's life, before any information

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<v Speaker 2>was clear at all, Nixon was demanded ending his aides

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<v Speaker 2>put in a call to the White House Deputy Director

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<v Speaker 2>of Communications, Kenneth Clawson to put out a statement that

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<v Speaker 2>the shooter was a supporter of George McGovern that was

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<v Speaker 2>the front runner and the Democratic primary, whom Nixon would

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<v Speaker 2>go on to trounce terribly at the election at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of that year.

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<v Speaker 1>So Nixon's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Just say, we've got evidence, We've got unmistakable evidence. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't have evidence of any kind, unmistakable or not.

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<v Speaker 2>And when the evidence did emerge, it certainly didn't show

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<v Speaker 2>the shooter working on the McGovern campaign, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>rumor Nixon was hoping to spread in those early hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Kennedy, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean away, you put him to having.

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<v Speaker 2>To get a bust before they get in this on

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<v Speaker 2>the right of way. Now, we don't have thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>hours of secret recordings from inside the offices of today's Republicans,

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<v Speaker 2>but we did see something really similar in the immediate

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<v Speaker 2>aftermath of the Trump shooting. He's a Biden voter, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a Democrat, he's a radical leftist, he's Antifa. We can

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<v Speaker 2>already tell. We just know it's obvious, we have proof.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that there was no proof of anything on

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<v Speaker 2>day one doesn't matter. It matters even less that no

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<v Speaker 2>proof ever materialized. You just have to get the rumor

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<v Speaker 2>out first. You have to make an impression while the

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<v Speaker 2>cement is wet, and sometimes that's permanent. One thing that

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<v Speaker 2>is not on the Nixon tapes, though, is a conversation

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<v Speaker 2>that allegedly occurred that afternoon in May nineteen seventy two

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<v Speaker 2>that was reported by Seymour Hirsch twenty years later in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen ninety two. Despite a Supreme Court ruling in the

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<v Speaker 2>seventies the tapes belong to the National Archives, the full

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<v Speaker 2>volume of the Nixon tapes were not made available to

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<v Speaker 2>the public until two thousand and seven. Now, Seymour Hirsh

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<v Speaker 2>is not a making stuff up kind of guy. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think he was fabricating any part of this story.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still alive and has a sub stack at eighty

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<v Speaker 2>seven years old, So I don't want any beef with Seymour.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what I'm saying. He has a decade's long

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<v Speaker 2>career as an investigative journalist and has a Pulitzer for

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<v Speaker 2>exposing the cover up of the Myli massacre. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think he's patting the truth here. But in his nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>ninety two New Yorker piece called Nixon's Last cover Up

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<v Speaker 2>the tapes he wants the Archives to suppress, Hirsch wrote

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<v Speaker 2>that the unreleased tapes from the afternoon of the Wallace

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<v Speaker 2>shooting contained recordings of Nixon directing E. Howard Hunt, the

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<v Speaker 2>retired CIA officer who headed his White House plumbers, to

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<v Speaker 2>break into Bremer's apartment before the FBI could search it

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<v Speaker 2>and to plant McGovern campaign literature. Hunt's own autobiography admits

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<v Speaker 2>only that at Nixon's direction, Nixon advisor Charles Colson did

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<v Speaker 2>ask Hunt to take a look around Brehmer's apartment. Even

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<v Speaker 2>that this is all taking place just a month before

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<v Speaker 2>Hunt did in fact play a key role in the

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<v Speaker 2>Watergate break in, This isn't exactly unbelievable. I can absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>believe that Richard Nixon would ask E. Howard Hunt to

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<v Speaker 2>break into a building for some nefarious purpose, because we

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<v Speaker 2>know he did that at least once. And one thing

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<v Speaker 2>the varying accounts seemed to agree on is that Hunt

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<v Speaker 2>was unable to complete the assignment because the FBI had

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<v Speaker 2>already sealed off Bremmer's apartment in Milwaukee before he got there.

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<v Speaker 2>Hirsh's Peace claimed the tapes contained recordings of Coulson breaking

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<v Speaker 2>this news to Nixon, that Hunt arrived too late and

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<v Speaker 2>the apartment was already under police guard, and further claims

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<v Speaker 2>that on the recordings, Nixon can be heard berating Coulson

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<v Speaker 2>for not doing more to slow down the FBI. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>all completely believable if you have even a passing knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>of Richard Nixon, and Coulson himself related this account to

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<v Speaker 2>Hirsh in nineteen ninety two. The problem is we have

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<v Speaker 2>the tapes now, fifteen years after Hirsch's article was published.

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<v Speaker 2>Researchers scoured the newly released recordings for proof of this

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<v Speaker 2>version of events, and it isn't there. It's entirely possible

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<v Speaker 2>that Colson is recalling conversations that occurred outside the presence

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<v Speaker 2>of the tape machine, or is misremembering how much of

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<v Speaker 2>this was actually spoken aloud and what was simply understood.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not out of the realm of possibility that Colson

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<v Speaker 2>is recalling something Nixon definitely desired. It's just not all

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<v Speaker 2>the tapes. Absence of proof isn't proof of absence, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>But we do have a pretty complete record of Nixon's

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<v Speaker 2>conversations on the afternoon of May fifteenth, nineteen seventy two.

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<v Speaker 2>Those missing eighteen minutes are from a different frantic afternoon

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<v Speaker 2>that summer. But before we get to the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Nixon's no good, very bad day. Here are some

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<v Speaker 2>products and services. So on May fifteenth, Nixon got out

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<v Speaker 2>of a budget meeting around four pm, which was shortly

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<v Speaker 2>after the shooting, and that's when he first got the news.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know from the tapes that his first phone

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<v Speaker 2>call was to his own wife, Pat and then he

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<v Speaker 2>called George Wallace's wife, Cornelia. He then asked Secretary of

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<v Speaker 2>the Treasury John Connolly to call Ted Kennedy to offer

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<v Speaker 2>him full Secret Service protection, which is not allowable under

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<v Speaker 2>the structure of how that works, but he wanted it done,

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<v Speaker 2>presumably out of some combination of the idea that Kennedy

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<v Speaker 2>would be McGovern's vice presidential pick, and maybe just the

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<v Speaker 2>general idea that if people are getting assassinated, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to account for all your Kennedy's. It's actually kind of

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<v Speaker 2>wild to dig into the tapes and see where everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>heads were at that afternoon in the Oval office. A

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<v Speaker 2>recording from around seven pm captures speculation that the shooting

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<v Speaker 2>may have been a false flag by Wallace's own people,

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<v Speaker 2>but the idea is quickly dismissed. He wouldn't have his

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<v Speaker 2>own people shoot him in the stomach that could kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>They would have gone for something less dangerous, like shooting

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<v Speaker 2>him in the foot, which is a conversation we all

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<v Speaker 2>had after the Trump shooting, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh maybe this is a stunt. Wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Why would he have them fire at his head? That's

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<v Speaker 2>so crazy, right, it's I mean, it's the same conversation

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<v Speaker 2>with different names and body parts subbed in. And this

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<v Speaker 2>recording too, capture Nixon's top aids, hoping that whoever did

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<v Speaker 2>it was a left wing nut could want he's gone

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<v Speaker 2>in er Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it likely likely it could be one of

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<v Speaker 1>his own people too.

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<v Speaker 2>If they would shoot that many while, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They would have shot him in the foot or something,

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<v Speaker 1>why did he have another It wouldn't wouldn't be one

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<v Speaker 1>of those other people shooting on the stomach. It's too

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<v Speaker 1>easy to kill him. Well, I think the guy, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy has to be another some kind of I just

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<v Speaker 1>hope he's the left wing nut of right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like that silly? I think I could kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Or it was really a left wing now.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather than the right wing, and they tried.

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<v Speaker 1>To make out of something but the right day the

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<v Speaker 1>right wing or other. That's how the hell you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I showed you the twister had just started in.

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<v Speaker 2>Twisse people, So Nixon tried to put a thumb on

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<v Speaker 2>the scale. After the fact, the exact nature of his

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<v Speaker 2>meddling will rever be up for debate, I guess, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Nixon tapes aren't the only unique primary source for

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<v Speaker 2>in down that day. In the early months of nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two, as Arthur Remmer prepared to shoot Nixon, gave

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<v Speaker 2>up on shooting Nixon and ultimately shot George Wallace, he

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<v Speaker 2>was keeping a diary, and in nineteen seventy three Harper's

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<v Speaker 2>Magazine Press published that diary. I couldn't find a physical

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<v Speaker 2>copy of the original bound book published by Harper's for

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<v Speaker 2>less than a small fortune, but it did find an

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<v Speaker 2>archival scan of the diary that was produced as evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>and the diary is a strange and fascinating document.

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<v Speaker 1>Only the latter half was published.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd thrown away the first one hundred and forty eight

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<v Speaker 2>pages of fact, he notes on the first page of

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<v Speaker 2>the version that we have In nineteen eighty a construction

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<v Speaker 2>worker named Sherman Griffin found those first one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight pages. So this again, eight years after the shooting,

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<v Speaker 2>he found them wrapped in plastic inside of a backpack

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<v Speaker 2>underneath the twenty seventh Street Viaduct in Milwaukee. From prison,

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<v Speaker 2>Arthur Remmer tried to sue Griffin for ownership of the document,

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<v Speaker 2>saying it would only be used to embarrasshim and it

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<v Speaker 2>was his. He owned it, I need back, But in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty one a court ruled that Griffin could keep it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it was more complicated in the end, all

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<v Speaker 2>the back and forth in court, but ultimately Finder's keepers.

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<v Speaker 2>The portion we do have is a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's full of typos and disorganized thinking, and sexual fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>and the mundane, rambling stream of consciousness of a guy

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<v Speaker 2>going about his day to day life as he tries

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out how to shoot the president. A few

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<v Speaker 2>months after it was published, The New York Review published

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<v Speaker 2>an essay by gor Vadal speculating that Brehmer hadn't written

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<v Speaker 2>the diary at all. As a literary critic, it was

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<v Speaker 2>his professional opinion that Brehmer could not have written such

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<v Speaker 2>a document, though it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Riddled with typos.

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<v Speaker 2>But Doll believes they come and go and are not

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<v Speaker 2>believable in their structure and format, as though the writer

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<v Speaker 2>is remembering, as he writes that he's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty one year old bus boy of mediocre intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>He also doubts that Bremer was well read enough to

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<v Speaker 2>make reference to Solzhenitsyn's day in the Life of a

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<v Speaker 2>von Denisovitch or quit as he crossed the Great Lakes,

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<v Speaker 2>call me Ishmael. Both Deniseovich and Ishmael are misspelled, but

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<v Speaker 2>that could be intentional, he says.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Gorvadahal believes or perhaps would only like you to think.

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<v Speaker 2>He believes it's hard to say that the diary was

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<v Speaker 2>falsified in its entirety by E.

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<v Speaker 1>Howard Hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>Nixon Spook and Hunt was a prolific writer, giving the

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<v Speaker 2>doll a large volume of material for comparison, and he

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<v Speaker 2>claims there are similarities in the writing styles, and also

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<v Speaker 2>notes that both Bremer and Hunt use the phrase Harry hippies.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a distaste for Harry hippies. I wasn't alive

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy two. Maybe a lot of people hated

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<v Speaker 2>Harry hippies. But again, just as Hirsh's claims, what the

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<v Speaker 2>secret tapes in nineteen ninety two were called into question

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<v Speaker 2>when we got the tapes in two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 2>but All's essay was published in nineteen seventy three, seven

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<v Speaker 2>years before the first half of the diary was found.

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<v Speaker 2>So even if you're inclined to believe Hunt was crafty

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<v Speaker 2>enough to construct this elaborate plot with a fake diary

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<v Speaker 2>and a patsy shooter, it's a real stretch to think

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<v Speaker 2>he would even bother writing one hundred and forty eight pages,

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<v Speaker 2>wrapping them in plastic, hiding them inside of a backpack,

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<v Speaker 2>and tucking that backpack into a little nook under a

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<v Speaker 2>bridge in Milwaukee to be found by a construction worker

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<v Speaker 2>a decade later. That part just doesn't make a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of sense. But maybe Gorbadal was just doing an elaborate

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<v Speaker 2>bit that I don't understand. The legacy of that diary

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<v Speaker 2>lives on in some surprising ways. In those early days

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<v Speaker 2>after the Trump shooting, before we all forgot what ever happened,

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<v Speaker 2>I did see a lot of people point out that

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<v Speaker 2>the last time a president took a bullet, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>over politics. John Hinckley Junior shot Reagan to impress Jodi Foster. Remember, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's where I admit something kind of embarrassing. I've always

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<v Speaker 2>just accepted that statement at face value. It makes no sense,

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<v Speaker 2>But he wasn't acting rationally, so it's not something I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I needed to make sense of. He shot

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<v Speaker 2>Reagan to impress Jody Foster. I guess he thought she'd

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<v Speaker 2>find that impressive. No need to interrogate that further. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean a lot of women might find it impressive if

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<v Speaker 2>you shot Ronald Reagan, so there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>follow up to do on that. The thing is, i'd

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<v Speaker 2>never seen the movie Taxi Driver. I never pieced together

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<v Speaker 2>that he thought shooting the president would impress Jody Foster

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<v Speaker 2>because she starred as the child sex worker in the

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<v Speaker 2>movie Taxi Driver, in which the protagonist Travis Bickle plans

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<v Speaker 2>to shoot a presidential candidate named Charles Palatine Hinkley chat

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<v Speaker 2>Reagan to impress Jodi Foster. Makes I guess, like a

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<v Speaker 2>little more sense if you have that cultural context. And

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<v Speaker 2>I fear I may have been the very last person

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<v Speaker 2>in America to find that out. So maybe everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>already knew this next part too. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 2>Taxi Driver owes a lot to Arthur Bremer, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who shot George Wallace. Screenwriter Paul Schrader has always denied

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<v Speaker 2>that he based any part of the movie on Bremer's diary.

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<v Speaker 2>In a nineteen seventy six interview, Schrader says he was

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<v Speaker 2>inspired by the shooting itself in nineteen seventy two, but

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<v Speaker 2>that the script was actually finished before the diary was

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<v Speaker 2>published in seventy three, and he registered the script with

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<v Speaker 2>the WGA, So that is provably true, right. But he

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<v Speaker 2>told film comments Richard Thompson in seventy six, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to emphasize that the script was written before any of

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<v Speaker 2>the diary was published. After I read the diary, I

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<v Speaker 2>was very tempted to take some of the good stuff

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<v Speaker 2>from it and add it to Taxi Driver, but I

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<v Speaker 2>decided not to because of legal ratifications. Bremmer is sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there in jail with nothing better to do than sue us,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why I made certain the script was registered

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<v Speaker 2>before the diary came out, and that nothing was changed

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<v Speaker 2>after the diary's publication. And that's actually kind of prescient

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<v Speaker 2>of him, come to think of it. He's saying this

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<v Speaker 2>in seventy six that Bremer could file some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>nuisance lawsuit from prison and that's years before Brehmer tried

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<v Speaker 2>to get half a million dollars and his diary back

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<v Speaker 2>from that construction worker. And I'm obviously not a film buff.

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<v Speaker 2>We all just found out that I've never seen a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>So he won't say Schrader's not telling the truth here.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe somebody who knows more about film would say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a difference between a script and a screenplay, right,

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<v Speaker 2>those are different things. The script was done, but he

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<v Speaker 2>still could have changed the look and feel of how

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<v Speaker 2>it was shot, because there are some scenes in Taxi

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<v Speaker 2>Driver that, unless Scorssa and Trader had some kind of

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<v Speaker 2>deep psychic connection to whatever forces in the universe motivated

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<v Speaker 2>Arthur Bremer, they absolutely came from the diary. I read

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<v Speaker 2>the diary before sitting down to see what the movie

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<v Speaker 2>was all about. So when Travis Bickele, the titular taxi driver,

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<v Speaker 2>pulls up outside of a building with his fare, Martin

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<v Speaker 2>Scorsese himself in the back seat, I was doing the

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<v Speaker 2>Leonardo DiCaprio pointing meme at my TV because the camera

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<v Speaker 2>pans to a woman in a window smoking a cigarette,

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<v Speaker 2>partially obscured by a gauzy curtain. And just a few

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<v Speaker 2>pages into Bremer's diary, he describes a really similar scene

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<v Speaker 2>before he flew back to Milwaukee to try to cross

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<v Speaker 2>the border into Canada to shoot Richard Nixon in Ottawa.

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<v Speaker 2>He wrote this in his diary, My last night at

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<v Speaker 2>the Howard Johnson's in the Jamaica area in New York City.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't sleep much. A beautiful naked lady across a

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<v Speaker 2>parking lot on the next motel out by her window

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<v Speaker 2>Florida ceiling, smoking cigarettes, and I had to watch her.

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<v Speaker 2>Her table room light was on, and a thin veil

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<v Speaker 2>of curtain allowed me to watch her as she passionately

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<v Speaker 2>kissed a man who wore clothes. I never saw them

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<v Speaker 2>in each other's arms for more than a minute a time.

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<v Speaker 1>Time. They must have been fighting. Through binoculars.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw them gesture like Italians and open their mouths

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<v Speaker 2>very wide, very often. So maybe he finished the script

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<v Speaker 2>before he read the diary, but the diary absolutely influenced

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<v Speaker 2>the way the film was shot. According to Andrew Rausch's

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<v Speaker 2>book on the Films of Martin Scorsese, de Niro prepared

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<v Speaker 2>for the role by getting a New York taxi license

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<v Speaker 2>and driving around the city listening to a cassette tape

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<v Speaker 2>of someone reading the diary aloud. The diary is genuinely odd. Normally,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm firmly in the camp of please do not read

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<v Speaker 2>or recommend that others read the manifestos left behind by shooters.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not much to gain from it. It's what they want, this, that,

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<v Speaker 2>and the other. There's plenty of writing on the topic,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't really think anyone will read Arthur Bremer's

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<v Speaker 2>diary entry about leaving a nude massage parlor, frustrated that

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<v Speaker 2>he's still a virgin, feel inspired to follow in his footsteps.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think it's a fascinating document. I learned

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<v Speaker 2>more about what's inside the mind of a nihilist aspiring

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<v Speaker 2>shooter from Bremer's diary than I've learned from any self

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<v Speaker 2>indulgent little manifesto left behind by a mass shooter. After

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<v Speaker 2>failing to get his shot at Nixon at the appearance

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<v Speaker 2>in Ottawa in April, he wrote, I just need a

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<v Speaker 2>little opening in a second of time. Nothing has happened

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<v Speaker 2>for so long three months. The last person I held

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation with in three months was a near naked

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<v Speaker 2>girl rubbing my erect penis, and she wouldn't let me

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<v Speaker 2>put it through her failures. A few pages later, he

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<v Speaker 2>writes that he thought about getting really drunk, but quote

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<v Speaker 2>decided against it. Just wanted to pick a fight with

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<v Speaker 2>a bartender somewhere or someone get arrested, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>Where am I?

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<v Speaker 2>I got something to do something big before I ever

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<v Speaker 2>get arrested again. He writes that he's getting tired of

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<v Speaker 2>writing he wants to be a madman who kills, and

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<v Speaker 2>then abruptly transitions to saying he goes crazy when hears

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Cash's new single, quoting the lyrics I shot you

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<v Speaker 2>with my thirty eight and now I'm doing time, before

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<v Speaker 2>noting that a baseball game had been canceled that day

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<v Speaker 2>due to rain. Honestly, the document it reminds me the

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<v Speaker 2>most of is the diary kept by Franklin Seacrest, the

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<v Speaker 2>young man who set a synagogue on fire in Austin

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one. Large portions of his diary were

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<v Speaker 2>produced as evidence in his trial, and his diary is

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<v Speaker 2>sort of similar in that it's a strange stream of consciousness,

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<v Speaker 2>accounting his frustrations with women, his daily activities, going to class,

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<v Speaker 2>arguments with his mother interspersed with these strange outbursts of

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<v Speaker 2>violent desire, and they're just sort of mixed in without

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<v Speaker 2>any recognition that these things are incongruous. After taking two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks away from his diary to deal with the tragedy

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<v Speaker 2>of failing to kill Richard Nixon, Rember went to see

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<v Speaker 2>Clockwork Orange. As he watched the movie, he decided he

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<v Speaker 2>would kill George Wallace instead, though he lamented that this

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<v Speaker 2>was a second rate target, writing I won't even rate

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<v Speaker 2>a TV interruption in Russia or Europe. When the news breaks,

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<v Speaker 2>they never heard of Wallace. If something big and nom

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<v Speaker 2>flares up, I'll be get the bottom of the first page.

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<v Speaker 2>In America, the editors will say Wallace dead. Who cares?

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<v Speaker 2>He won't get more than three minutes on network TV news.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't expect anybody to get a big throbbing erection

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<v Speaker 2>from the news. You know, a storm in some country

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<v Speaker 2>we never heard of, kills ten thousand people, big deal?

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<v Speaker 2>Pass the beer. What's on TV tonight? I hope my

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<v Speaker 2>death makes more sense than my life. And just days

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<v Speaker 2>before he finally took his shot, he wrote, yesterday I

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<v Speaker 2>even considered McGovern as a target. If I go to

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<v Speaker 2>prison as an assassin, solitary forever, guards in my cell, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>Or get killed or suicided, what difference to me? Ask

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<v Speaker 2>me why I did it, and I'd say I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>or nothing else to do, or why not? Or I

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<v Speaker 2>have to kill somebody. It bothers me that they are

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty guys in prison now who threaten the pres

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<v Speaker 2>and we never heard a thing about them except that

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<v Speaker 2>they're in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe what they need is organization.

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<v Speaker 2>Make the first lady a widow, incorporated, chicken in every

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<v Speaker 2>pot and a bullet on every head, Committee incorporated the

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<v Speaker 2>whole to national convention every year to pick the executioner.

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<v Speaker 2>A winner will be chosen from the best entry in

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<v Speaker 2>forty thousand words or less, preferably less on the theme

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<v Speaker 2>how to do a bang up job getting people to

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<v Speaker 2>notice you? Or get it off your chest? Make your

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<v Speaker 2>problems everybody's. On May thirteenth, two days before the shooting,

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<v Speaker 2>Bremer attended a Wallace rally in Kalamazoo, Michigan. There are

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<v Speaker 2>photographs of Bremer at the rally that day, and he

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<v Speaker 2>even spoke to a police officer who responded to a

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<v Speaker 2>call about a suspicious vehicle park near the venue. Bremer

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<v Speaker 2>told the officer he just wanted to be early to

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<v Speaker 2>get a good spot at the rally, and complied when

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<v Speaker 2>asked to move his car. His loaded thirty eight was

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<v Speaker 2>in his jacket pocket. He writes in his diary that

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<v Speaker 2>he could have taken his shot that day, but at

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<v Speaker 2>the last minute two teenage girls got between him and

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<v Speaker 2>his target, and he thought they'd be disfigured or blinded

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<v Speaker 2>if he fired through the glass they were pressed up against, writing,

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<v Speaker 2>I let Wallace go only to spare these two stupid, innocent,

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<v Speaker 2>delighted kids. His final entry, made the night before the

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<v Speaker 2>shooting ends with got a sign from camp headquarters here

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<v Speaker 2>to shield the gun. Is there anything else to say?

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<v Speaker 2>My cry upon firing will be a penny for your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>Round four pm on the fifteenth, after Wallace finished addressing

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<v Speaker 2>a crowd in Laurel, Maryland, Bremer pushed his way through

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<v Speaker 2>the people, hoping to shake Wallace's hand, and unloaded his

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight. He struck Wallace four times and wounded four others,

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<v Speaker 2>a state trooper, a campaign volunteer, Wallace's personal bodyguard, and

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<v Speaker 2>a secret Service agent. He was convicted and sentenced to

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<v Speaker 2>sixty three years, later reduced to fifty three years on appeal.

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<v Speaker 2>He was denied parole in nineteen ninety six after arguing

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<v Speaker 2>at his hearing that shooting segregationist dinosaurs wasn't as bad

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<v Speaker 2>as harming mainstream politicians, but he was released in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and seven. George Wallace wrote to Bremer in prison

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen ninety five, telling him that he forgave him

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<v Speaker 2>for the shooting and hoped to correspond a bit to

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<v Speaker 2>get to know one another. Bremer never responded, and George

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<v Speaker 2>Wallace died in nineteen ninety eight. So we shot George

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<v Speaker 2>Wallace for no reason, and Robert de niro study of

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<v Speaker 2>the diary he left behind inspired the performance that made.

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<v Speaker 1>Hinckley shoot Reagan. There's really nothing hard to believe at

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<v Speaker 1>all in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Idea that Thomas Crooks wanted to shoot a president just

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<v Speaker 2>to be remembered as anyone at all.

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