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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go mailbag at golopod. At golopod is the mailbag,

454
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Speaker 1: Let's fire. Some questions love the pod question of the

455
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Speaker 1: comment curious your thoughts on the resurgence of the mini driver.

456
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 1: Are you the type that dabbles with building clubs or

457
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: testing different lofts, li angles, different chefs. The answer is no,

458
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: But to push back on that, I gladly would. We

459
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: just need to have a club sponsor that wants to

460
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: dabble or let me dabble, and I gladly would, but

461
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: as of right now, I don't really the whole note

462
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: talking fiasco with Rory is why some detractors. When things

463
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: are going good, he loves the app, but when things

464
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: are going bad, he ducks. That's what we just talked about.

465
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: Totally agree. You know, you can't just pump your chest

466
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Speaker 1: out when things are going well. You gotta be there

467
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: when things are going poorly in any walk of life, professionally, personally,

468
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Speaker 1: from people that are married or in serious relationships. You know,

469
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: it's nothing is easier in life when things are going

470
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: in a positive direction, in business, with your kids, with

471
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: your family, and nothing is more difficult when things are

472
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: headed in the wrong direction and things get tough because

473
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: no one wants to deal with it. But part of

474
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Speaker 1: being a grown up, part of being a professional, is

475
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: handling it. And I would say Rory, for whatever reason,

476
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: is just kind of ducked lately. It's weird golf question idea.

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Speaker 1: What if the PGA Tour let popular YouTube golfers like Rickshields,

478
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Speaker 1: good good golf in Grant Horvat play in a non

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Speaker 1: major pro tournament. It would create massive online viewership and

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Speaker 1: interest in the non majors. Your thoughts, I don't know

481
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Speaker 1: if that's the case, because if you let those guys

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Speaker 1: play because of their television deals, they wouldn't let those

483
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Speaker 1: guys broadcast their rounds on YouTube, so they would be

484
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Speaker 1: playing just like any other player in the tournament. Now,

485
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Speaker 1: they might get shown a time or two on Thursday

486
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Speaker 1: and Friday. I'm assumed none of them would make the cut.

487
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Speaker 1: I mean, Wesley Bryant could, the other guy's Grant. None

488
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Speaker 1: of them could make the cut of an event, but

489
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Speaker 1: they wouldn't be on TV really, so maybe it would

490
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Speaker 1: help to get some tickets right for people to purchase

491
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Speaker 1: tickets at the event. But like the difference of Live

492
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: Golf for example and the PGA Tour is LIV has

493
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Speaker 1: done the Creator Classic and they put it on Grant

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Speaker 1: Horvat's channel, and then they put it on I think

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Speaker 1: they're putting it on the Brian Brose channel. This next

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Speaker 1: one coming up, I would imagine they will eventually put

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Speaker 1: it on bobda Sports channel. The PGA Tour did it,

498
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Speaker 1: they put it on their own channel. They didn't broadcast

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Speaker 1: on those guys channels, So it's like part of utilizing

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Speaker 1: them is you have to utilize them what their strength is,

501
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: which is their YouTube audience. So I hear what you're saying,

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00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: and I understand. Like Grant has been invited to play

503
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Speaker 1: at the Barracuda, which is in Reno at Old Greenwood,

504
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: which is a really, really hard course, and when he

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00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: had Scotti Scheffler on, he had mentioned like, you know,

506
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Speaker 1: I don't really feel comfortable doing it, and Scotty's like,

507
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: you got to take it, just do it. Who cares?

508
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: And I agree with that, but I don't think that's

509
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Speaker 1: gonna add viewership or not in terms of him playing,

510
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: which again no shade to Grant has no chance to

511
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: make the cut. Rule changes for the Tour Championship is stupid.

512
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: Why not go to match play and it seems it

513
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: doesn't reward the season long play, So the Tour Championship,

514
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: which changes rules in the middle of a season, which

515
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: is kind of crazy. It'd be like the NFL in

516
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: November first being like, actually, we're gonna the seventh wild

517
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: card team no longer is going to exist, and we're

518
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: also going to reseed and winning the division does not

519
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: guarantee you a spot that would never happen, and that's,

520
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 1: you know, kind of what the golf world we're in

521
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: right now. It's kind of just a fly by the

522
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Speaker 1: seat of your pants. So I'm not surprised though the

523
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: staggers start. It can't happen anymore. So if you're gonna

524
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Speaker 1: have the golf playoffs be the last three weeks of

525
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: the season. In the playoffs, you can get beat, right

526
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: The Boston Celtics and the Cleveland Cavaliers were the first

527
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: one and two seeds. They got beat, They got told

528
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: Sea audios have a good night. The Lakers were the

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Speaker 1: three seed. They got beat in the first round. Part

530
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Speaker 1: of the playoffs is like, I don't know, you can't lose,

531
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I last year the Ravens, they were

532
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: the number one overall seed hosting the Chiefs and they lost.

533
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: So like, what Scottie Scheffler has done during the season

534
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: is incredible, But if you're gonna have a quote unquote

535
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs, he should be able to lose. The problem

536
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: with match play is, for a television standpoint, having Scotty

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00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: or Rory get beat in the third round and not

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00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: make it to the semi finals. In the finals, is

539
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: not great for television. It's basically why the matchplay events

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00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: have been scrapped. There's a randomness to it. Like Scotty

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00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: Scheffler in match play can lose to Let's say there

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Speaker 1: are fifty players. Let's say the final fifty. You go

543
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: to match play right twenty five verse twenty five, and

544
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: you just work your way to to the champion. He

545
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: could lose in the first round, and he can play

546
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: well and some guy just chips in, makes a couple

547
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: of long putts, all of a sudden, he's lost. That's

548
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: the difference. Like yesterday, there'd be like a three shot

549
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Speaker 1: swing or even a two shot swing. Right, so one

550
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Speaker 1: whole Ben Griffin, Bogi's, Scottie Birdie's and it goes from

551
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Speaker 1: like he's eight under, Ben Griffin seven under, all of

552
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: a sudden, Scotti's nine under and Ben Griffin's six under.

553
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: It's a two shot sling. One match plays just one hole,

554
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: So it doesn't I can get a double bogie, you

555
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: get a double eagle. Who gives a shit? I just

556
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: I just don't think match play is really on the table.

557
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: I think a bigger issue in a lot of other

558
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: golf people have talked about This is like, should we

559
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: try to go to Pebble Beach? Why don't we do

560
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: the event at Pebble Beach in the middle of August

561
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: when it's beautiful. No more Tour Championship in Atlanta. Like

562
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: I I'd be okay with that, but it feels like

563
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future is where it's gonna be. Was

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00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: listening to Scotti interview about when they tested the driver

565
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Speaker 1: and it failed. He said he kind of figured it

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Speaker 1: was coming because I've been using that driver for a

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Speaker 1: year and a half. If players are aware it could

568
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Speaker 1: be coming, why would they just change out their driver

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Speaker 1: on their one or two A tourneys before a major

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00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: so that you don't get into a Rory sprang the

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00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: ball everywhere with a brand new driver. He hasn't broke

572
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: in yet. Don't know if Rory would have won, but

573
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: it seems like he could have made it interesting and

574
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: avoided the situation. That's a good question. Uh, maybe Rory

575
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: didn't see it coming. I mean, we'll see what his

576
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: quotes are this week. I would imagine he's gonna not

577
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: want to talk about it, but who knows. Uh. I

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00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: do understand that if like, okay, I see it coming,

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Speaker 1: But I feel really comfortable with this driver that I'm

580
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: just gonna make it where they take it away from me.

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Speaker 1: But I'm with you, why would you even risk that,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're for Scotty. The driver is not the

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00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: most potent club in his back. Obviously he's a great

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00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: driver of the ball, but if like he just had

585
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: to change his irons the week before, it would be

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00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: a huge story. And that's the equivalent of Rory, who's

587
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: a dominant driver though golf ball. So I do believe this.

588
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: You know, baseball. I don't watch as much baseball now

589
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: as I used to. But if I think you cork

590
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: your bat can, I can look at the umpire and

591
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: have them check your bat. Right. If I think you

592
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: have something in your glove, some sort of substance to

593
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: help you get spin on the baseball, I can. Again,

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Speaker 1: I might be screwing up exactly what the rules are now,

595
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: I could have my manager or first base coach or

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00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: whoever go to the Empire and have them check the

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00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: pitcher right, maybe once a game, twice a game, whatever.

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00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: And it's why pitchers always get mad when they don't

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00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: have anything in there. But you'd never know when it's

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00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: gonna come if in golf, if there's one hundred and

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00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: fifty people in a tournament and they only check fifty

602
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: of the one fifty, seems a little random. And I

603
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: heard a lot of people say, and I do agree,

604
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: either check everybody or check nobody. You can't just have

605
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: this randomized event, because if it's a random event, how

606
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: many guys in the tournament then are able to play

607
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: with a driver that is not unconforming? If, like you know,

608
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: in a baseball game, there's no way they're gonna check

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00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: for any sort of substance in my glove. As a pitcher,

610
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Speaker 1: well I'm gonna put some in there if I know

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get checked. So imagine some of the

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Speaker 1: golfers that whenever the date passes where they're like, well,

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Speaker 1: no one checked me, I'm good to go. So you

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00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: just play the driver that's non conforming. If you're playing

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Speaker 1: with it, and again non conforming from what I've read,

616
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: it's like an extra yard, so it's not like the

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Speaker 1: difference of hitting it three hundred and three hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty yards. But like, this is the problem with golf

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Speaker 1: and kind of the business they're in. There are so

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Speaker 1: many open ended situations either draw line in the sand,

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Speaker 1: do this or that. It's like, eah, I was kind

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Speaker 1: of do this. It's where we get back to, you know,

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Speaker 1: one of the strongest parts about the Let's use the

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00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: NFL as an example, Like there's pretty strong structure. These

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00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: are the rules. There's what you can do. There's what

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00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: you can do. It doesn't mean you agree with everything.

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00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: Some of the fines are ridiculous, some of the penalties

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00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: are stupid, but like it is what it is, right

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Speaker 1: and golf is like, well, yeah, like you can't really

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Speaker 1: we kind of have to show up. We don't have

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Speaker 1: to show up. We kind of have to talk to

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Speaker 1: the media. I don't feel like talking to the media.

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00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: It's like, guys, are can we all move in the

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00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: same direction? Part of like you know, a row boat.

635
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Speaker 1: You can't have one guy rolling one way and the

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00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: other guy rolling the other way. Can we all row

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Speaker 1: in the same direction? And I think sometimes in golf,

638
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: like you get all these independent contractors and that I

639
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: heard I heard Lucas Glover say this as well. He's

640
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: like I talked to the media whether I played well

641
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: or not, if I'm asked, And obviously he's not on

642
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: the level of these guys, but like, we're all independent

643
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: contractors here so legally, like by the of our whatever

644
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: our contracts or deals with the PGA tour, we don't

645
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: have to do anything. Like yeah, well, don't have to

646
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: do anything. But when you're the star, you're the guy

647
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: general rating all the money, and the reason you're the

648
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: richest guy is because they kind of need you leading

649
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: the charge. Like did Tiger always have to talk? Of

650
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: course not, but did he understand that he was the

651
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: guy printing the money for everybody and he was the

652
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: guy benefiting the most, making the most of it on

653
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: and off the course. So I just think some of

654
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: these guys kind of get caught up in these like

655
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: one on one battles with the media or the social

656
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: media and narratives like come on, let's see the bigger

657
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: picture here, which I understand can be difficult. But Rory's

658
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: thirty five years old. A hidden gym for a great

659
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: golf weekend. Saint George, Utah between sandhul and Trada and

660
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: the brand new Black Desert just hosted the PGA and

661
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: LPGA plus a bunch of other courses. It's awesome. I've

662
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: heard good things. I mean, I saw the Bobda Sports

663
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: and Granting. All those guys were there. I've had friends.

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Speaker 1: My brother in law Matt, went on a trip last

665
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: year to Saint George. He went in the summer and

666
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: it was hot, but he said it was the most

667
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: beautiful course he's been doing a long time. So I'm

668
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: with you. I've never been. I always thought when I

669
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Speaker 1: was scouting, when I was at Fresnone State, we played

670
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Speaker 1: Utah State, and that in Utah, driving through Salt Lake

671
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Speaker 1: and up through Utah, it's in Logan. Utah is some

672
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: of the most beautiful country in America. It really is.

673
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Utah has areas in its state that, you know,

674
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: everyone's like California most beautiful state. There are areas in

675
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Speaker 1: Utah that I would put right there with, like Lake Tahoe.

676
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's just absolutely gorgeous. The drive

677
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: going to Logan, Utah from Salt Lake City is absolutely beautiful.

678
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Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly where Saint George is. I

679
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: think it is in South Utah. I did watch Mom

680
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: Talk The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, which I don't

681
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: recommend unless you want to just feel terrible about yourself,

682
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: Like why am I watching this, but somehow I did

683
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: watch it and in a weird way kind of enjoyed it.

684
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: But it is it is beautiful area, it's clean, it's

685
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: fresh air, and obviously great golf. Speaking of Utah, I'm

686
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: from Salt Lake City and live near Tony Fenow. I

687
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: follow him fairly closely, but never get my hopes up

688
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: on him winning a major. In my opinion and statistically,

689
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: his putting is absolutely god awful. Wondering if you've ever

690
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: noticed this? Also, what do you think stops a golfer

691
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: of his caliber who clearly needs to fix his putting

692
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: from simply copying the guys he plays with every week?

693
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: Tony is a top notch iron player and driver of

694
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: the golf ball, but he can't putt. Still, he never

695
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: tries out a new putter or a putting stroke. I

696
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: don't get it. Putting is like shooting a free throw.

697
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: Rhythm and repetition is feenow the shack of putting. You

698
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: know what's funny. I think he splits between Arizona and

699
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: Utah and I see him. I've probably seen him out

700
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: of TPC Scottsdale. I don't know ten to fifteen times.

701
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's with his younger son, who looks like he's

702
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: got defensive tackle written all over him. And I swear

703
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: most times when I see him out there. Now the pros,

704
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: there's the driving range where just us normal people hit

705
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: and they go to the back, and I can always tell,

706
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: like Max Homa, you can tell Tony just by their

707
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: swing right, you know, three hundred and fifty yards away.

708
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't have a great eyesight, but every time I'm

709
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: out there, Tony's on the putting green and I've gone

710
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: where I've hit some balls. You can see Tony back

711
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: there on the putting green. And then I go play

712
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: and by the time I get to the eighth pole

713
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: at TPC Scott Steele, you can see the PGA Tour

714
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: players putting green where they are and he's still there.

715
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: So and again this is not I mean, you can

716
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: count on two hands how many times I've seen this.

717
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: But like I've seen the guy work on his game.

718
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: I've said the same thing about Max, Like even when

719
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: Max is playing shitty, I've seen him out there practicing

720
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: for hours. So it's like I couldn't last on a

721
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: putting green more than twenty minutes. Now, I'm not saying

722
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 1: just because like, of course he's a pro golfer. My

723
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: point is, I do think he tries and works on it.

724
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Speaker 1: Putting is just I don't know. He just I think

725
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: I saw a highlight. Honestly, it looked like AI at Memorial.

726
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: He put it. He had a birdie and he put

727
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: it with one hand, and it wasn't from like a

728
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: foot away, he was like twenty five feet. I think

729
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: sometimes he just I don't know. You know, part of

730
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: what Shack shooting free throws. His hands were so big,

731
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: so it's like it's easier for me or you to

732
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: shoot a basketball because her hands are smaller, right, But

733
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: for Shaquille O'Neal, the ball felt more like a baseball

734
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: in his hands, which made some sense. But rick Berry

735
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: used to say, hey, I will teach you to shoot underhand,

736
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: but Shaq didn't want to not look cool. Who knows.

737
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Speaker 1: Imagine if Shack was like an eighty five percent free

738
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: throw shooter, he would have been stoppable because you couldn't

739
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: gone to Hackshack. Where I do think putting like, there

740
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: are enough guys that just can't really putt for whatever reason.

741
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's all just touch or whatever,

742
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: because clearly has some touch. I don't know. I just

743
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: some guys are just bad putters. I'm not a great putter.

744
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Maybe there is something into not having a system. I

745
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: don't know. You have to ask him why. Some guys

746
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: are just more serviceable at putting. Now, some guys get

747
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: hot right that aren't good putters, but it is clearly

748
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: has held Tony back from winning a lot more tournaments

749
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Speaker 1: in his career.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on Brandal Shamblee as a golf

760
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: media personality. Love him. I think he's in all of sports.

761
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: He's just in terms of like television analysts, not like

762
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: a guy that gives opinions, like in the sense of,

763
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, Collins a radio host or a podcast host.

764
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: Some I'm talking to just a guy that is, you know,

765
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: on events, calling them. He's I think he's the best

766
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: in the business any sport. I really do. I think

767
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: Troy Akman's got to swag back in football, but I

768
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: think Brandal's pretty unique, and I think sometimes the player

769
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: shit on him where it's like brand was this kind

770
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: of speak. You know, Brando could talk like a normal

771
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: fan in terms of being critical, like that's just good enough.

772
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: But he also, like the dude was on pg tour

773
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: for a while. It's not like he's just some random

774
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: Joe Schmoe. It wouldn't be just like me sitting up

775
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: there at the US Open be like this guy just

776
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: can't hit his sand wedges and the guy would look

777
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: at me like, fuck me either, can you your five handicap?

778
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: You know, this guy was a PGA tour player, good player,

779
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: pissed a lot of people off. I thoroughly enjoy him,

780
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,959
Speaker 1: but he's my type of entertainment, like I I want

781
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: someone to say what I'm witnessing now. He can get

782
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 1: a little into the weeds, you know, in terms of golf,

783
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: swing and stuff. But like I think a lot of

784
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: his opinions over the year, I don't agree with him

785
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: on like at this point in time to live stuff.

786
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, I do not care. How do you

787
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: still care this much? But you know the Kopka thing.

788
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: I remember he used to get in like, how why

789
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: isn't Brooks beat? Why doesn't he try harder in these

790
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: major these non majors, like he could have been like

791
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: an all time great player win all these majors and

792
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: then kick ass in a bunch of PG events and

793
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: hymn Brooks used to to get into it. It's like,

794
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: I think you kind of need some of that. My

795
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: job allows me to have a ton of free time,

796
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: so I try to play every day, whether it's on

797
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: the course or the range. Currently a twelve handicap. Where

798
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: were there any drills that help you take your game

799
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: to the next level? Yeah, I mean you's most people,

800
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: I would say, even I like golf a lot. I

801
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: haven't played in a couple of weeks, but I don't

802
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: really do drills. The only time I could ever do

803
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: a drill would be if I got a lesson, But

804
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: on my own, I just one thing I've really tried

805
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: to work on is play less golf, swing and play

806
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: more golf. And I did it for the first time

807
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: last week in Tahoe, and I played my best in

808
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 1: a long long time. I just plan. I didn't think

809
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: about my golf swing like my hands here here, just

810
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: just swing, swing hard. Now I'm probably a little better

811
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: than you, but I think if you have questions, I

812
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: would get a golf lesson and then he could give

813
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: you some basic tips that you think about. But for

814
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: the most part, like I don't really do drills, I

815
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: would say, if you're a twelve handicap, the quickest way

816
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,919
Speaker 1: to get better would be to hit fairways. So work

817
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: on the driver and short game, like if you can

818
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: be a good shipper. Putting's a little random, but like

819
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: if you can give yourself opportunities around the green, you

820
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: can improve quickly. But you got to hit fairways because

821
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: it's really hard to score, whether your two handicap or

822
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: whether you're a twelve handicap in the fucking trees and

823
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: the rough. I recently started to get into golf. I'm

824
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 1: shooting low to mid thirties. It appears to me it's

825
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: a very mental sport. What tips would you have or

826
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: you have heard for a better mental approach to the game,

827
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: hoping to shoot plus eighteen by the end of the summer,

828
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: So basically ninety. I think, you know, there are strategy

829
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: stuff that if you watch, like golf, probably more than

830
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: the other sports one most of us aren't playing. Like

831
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: once you get to thirty forty fifty years old, maybe

832
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: some of you are playing pick up basketball, but no

833
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: one's playing tackle football. You know, even slow pitch softball

834
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: is not nearly the same as like normal baseball. So

835
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: golf's the only sport that you could play exactly like

836
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: the pros, Like you can go to the courses they

837
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: play and play their teas. Now it doesn't mean obviously

838
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: you're as good as them, but you can play the

839
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: same game even though it's a little different. They got

840
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: grand stands and they get kind of bullshit drops. But

841
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I would say two things

842
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: that for me that I do not like course strategy, Like, hey,

843
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: I want to hit in the middle of the green,

844
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: don't take on that bunker, like it totally depends on

845
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: the course you're playing. I have a tendency to hurry, hurry, hurry,

846
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: that's just my natural personality. Go go go. So if

847
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: I have like a double bogie and I'm playing with it,

848
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: most people I play with, it's ready golf, even if

849
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: you're playing for money. Every once in a while, you know,

850
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: obviously if a guy gets a burdy, you give them

851
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: the tea. But you know, if you're at the tea first,

852
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: let it rip, keep it moving. It's like sometimes if

853
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: you're kind of amped up and you haven't you just

854
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: had a shitty hole, let other people hit first. And

855
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: I saw Rory say this, and I think about this.

856
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes He's like, close your mouth and breathe through your nose.

857
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: It just slows everything down. Cause golf is I think

858
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: that has the most in common with like baseball and

859
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: kicking in football. Is it's a lot more thinking than

860
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: it is actual action. So when you get really amped

861
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: up and the herd, you know, the harder you try

862
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: a golf sometimes the worst you can get. So sometimes

863
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: slowing down because I think our natural reaction. Think about

864
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, on a driving range, let's just say I

865
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: give you twenty balls, and I say here's this eight iron.

866
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: You'll just hit twenty balls eight iron. You could bag

867
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: those out in a couple of minutes just swinging, swinging, swaying. Swing. Well,

868
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: you don't play golf like that, you know. Jack Nicholas

869
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: has always said, like he used to practice kind of

870
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: like he played. He hit a shot, take a little time.

871
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: Some of the great players have said this though. When

872
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: you just watch like these guys on Golf Channel at

873
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: the Majors, they're just hitting ball after ball, So it's

874
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: not totally realistic. But I think sometimes be cognizant of

875
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: like just rushing, rushing, rushing. You know. Slow play is

876
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: a big deal on the PGA Tour. I think sometimes

877
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: it's the opposite for the average golfer, is they go

878
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: too quickly, you know, just take a little I'm not

879
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: saying play like Patrick Cantlay, but just take a deep breath.

880
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: Something I really try to work on a big fan

881
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: Newish golfer. I live in Phoenix and mostly only play

882
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. At what point do we call out the

883
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: astronomical prices they charge out here or is it simply

884
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: a supplied demand thing that we have to accept. Would

885
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: love to hear your take on the cost of golf

886
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: in Arizona compared to elsewhere. Golf's really expensive no matter

887
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: where you play right, So if you're playing a quote

888
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: unquote better course, you know, I think the day and

889
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: age of playing just random public tracks for twenty thirty

890
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: bucks are really really hard to find. So you know,

891
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: in in Arizona, a crappy public course, gosh, you like

892
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty bucks. At least during the six

893
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: months when it's not one hundred and fifteen degrees. You

894
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: can find cheaper golf when it gets hot. But you know,

895
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: just being in Lake Tahoe, it was the second day

896
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: open of this course called Gray's Crossing. It's the one

897
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: right next to Old Greenwood where they have the PGA

898
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: event in the fall. And again they had been closed

899
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: the entire winter because of this thing called snow, so

900
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: they opened on Friday. We played Sunday. Now it was

901
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: in pretty damn good shape relative to being shut down

902
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: because of a harsh winner. Costs two hundred dollars a pop,

903
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: and as the summer months go and it gets sunnier,

904
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: that course I think charges well over three hundred dollars.

905
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: So the round of golf. Like I was talking to

906
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: Maria or she had mentioned this to me yesterday about

907
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: like they were talking about the prices of housing in

908
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: like a team meeting or something. And I think it's

909
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: easy for anyone in the housing world to go, like, God,

910
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: this is what this guy paid in twenty sixteen. It's like,

911
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: this is what this guy paid in twenty fourteen. It's like, yeah,

912
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty five, and the cost of you name

913
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 1: me the neighborhood, that's what it is now. Now, maybe

914
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: with higher interest rates, you could low ball the guy

915
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: for thirty forty to fifty grand. But okay, so it's

916
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: nine hundred thousand dollars home. Let's say you end up

917
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: getting it for eight fifty. You can be mad all

918
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: day long. Well he only paid four fifty four this

919
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: seven years ago. Well, yeah he did. If you want

920
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: to live in that home now, hopefully you can get

921
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: it for a fifty. He's still gonna make four hundred

922
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: thousand dollars you hopefully well too. You just might have

923
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: to hold onto it for a little longer than he did, right,

924
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: and hopefully things go well in that area. And I

925
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: think at golf people bitch and moan all the time

926
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: about these prices, and I see it. I mean, for

927
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: four or five months a year at TBC Scottsdale. I mean,

928
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: with taxes and everything, they're charging almost six hundred dollars,

929
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: which is fucking insane. I really like the course. I

930
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: enjoy playing out there. Now I pay for it. It's

931
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: not like they give it to me for free. But

932
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: I have played out there now for almost three years.

933
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: It should it be that much, of course not. But

934
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: when I go out there in the popular months, it

935
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: is packed and everyone's paying. That I live next to Greyhawk,

936
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: it's a little cheaper maybe after taxes, is like five

937
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty bucks. Same thing if you went out

938
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: there in February or March or November. It is Friday, Saturday,

939
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: Sunday jam packed and even the weekdays. Now these are

940
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: higher end public tracks, but even pick your and in

941
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: public track and just somewhat of a populated area, I

942
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be very difficult for you not to

943
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: look at the price and go, let's say, let's say

944
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: the numbers one hundred and eighty dollars to play the course, going, god,

945
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: this used to be fifty dollars. Yeah it did, and

946
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: now it's not. And you look at their t sheet

947
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: and it's packed. So I'm with you, I think it's

948
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: it's the easiest thing to complain about, Like, this is

949
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: fucking nuts, but people are paying. I see it, like,

950
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully we get a family. You know, I

951
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: want to join a country club to have a place

952
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: to go hang out. The prices for country where I

953
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: grew up in, like northern California, places like Olympic Club, Uh, Sacramento.

954
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: I don't know even know what the best course would be.

955
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: It'd be like Del Passo or whatever. But the course

956
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: my brother belongs to I think he paid like five

957
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to join. That's what it costs to join

958
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: the country club he's a member at. You couldn't dream

959
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: of finding a decent country club around here for under

960
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: one hundred grand and the cool ones I mean are

961
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: two fifty to five hundred thousand dollars. It's like, is

962
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 1: this fucking Augusta National And the answer is no, it's not.

963
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: But it's like, well, we have a seven year waiting list.

964
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: So it's like, well I can complain or it's like, well,

965
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: if you ever want to be part of these, these

966
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: are the going rates and here's the list. So you

967
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: want to get in line or you want to bitch

968
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: and moan about on the sideline, and again back to

969
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: my house analogy. I've seen so many people like I

970
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 1: don't want to pay this, I don't want to pay this. Well,

971
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: then you're not gonna buy a house. Then probably, I mean,

972
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: that's probably what's gonna transpire, because if you're hoping for

973
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: the days of like two thousand and eight for the

974
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: house you've been eyeballing, It's like, I'm not spending a

975
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: million dollars on that. I'm not spending seven hundred thousand

976
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: dollars that you think it's gonna be like three hundred

977
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: and fifty grand or that million dollar house. One day

978
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna look up after a disaster and it's gonna

979
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: be six hundred thousand dollars. Probably not gonna happen. So

980
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: I just I'm done complaining about it. I don't disagree

981
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: with what you're saying because the numbers are high, but

982
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: but whe ain't going back. I'm not you know, I

983
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: wasn't an economics major in college, but I've learned enough

984
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 1: over the last decade plus. When you hear these people

985
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: that know what they're talking about talking about inflation. When

986
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: inflation slows down, it doesn't mean that the whatever you're

987
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: paying for now that was forty dollars goes back to

988
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: twenty seven dollars. It just no longer goes from forty

989
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: to forty five. So I think the prices are kind

990
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: of the prices. Good topic though, Scotty Scheffler becoming an

991
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: all time great. Do you believe he will have the

992
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: longevity with his swing? Every time he swings it's almost

993
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: as if he's rolling an ankle. By the way, get

994
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: a hold of Bryson or Grant Horvat for a video sometime.

995
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: I would love to have Bryson on the pod. I

996
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: would say the thing with Scotty, he doesn't roll his

997
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: ankle and his footwork is unconventional. But when you look

998
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: at Tiger, he was very, very hard on his knees

999
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: and his back and clear the car accident in La

1000
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with that, but his fuse back

1001
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: has broken torn acls, and part of that was the

1002
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: Navy seal stuff. I think Scotty is closer to Phil Mickelson,

1003
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: where he's a little more fluid in lumber. You know,

1004
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: Phil's never had an injury. Think about Phil doesn't mean

1005
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: he's always played well, but he's never hurt generally, how

1006
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: Phil's going to be out for eight months back injury

1007
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: if anything. Feels his battle weight issues, but never been

1008
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: hurt now. I remember hearing Bones talk about this one time.

1009
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: Look at his swing, Look how fluid it is, and

1010
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: it's not He's listen. I'm no biomechanic guy, but it's

1011
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: kind of right. I do think there are elements, like, yes,

1012
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: Scotty's feet move weird, but I actually think it's easier

1013
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: on his back, so Scotty stays healthy, feels like he's

1014
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: going to be closer to ten Majors than he is

1015
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: three or four. A month ago, you talked about switching

1016
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: your iron grips from jumbo to standard. We talked briefly

1017
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: about the benefit it would have if you weren't getting

1018
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: around the ball. How the switch turn out. It was

1019
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: great because I'm like Jared Goff or Derek Carr. You know,

1020
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: I have smaller hands, so I want to grip. I

1021
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: want to have a weaker grip so it's much easier

1022
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: for me to get my right hand over. And you

1023
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: know when you watch Scottie, he grips it a couple times,

1024
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: Xander the same way. It's pretty underrated. How important a

1025
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: good golf grip is. That is one thing I've watched

1026
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,439
Speaker 1: a lot on YouTube, and I've taken it to the range.

1027
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: Mess around. When I do grip it correctly and get

1028
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: my right hand farther over on my left hand, I

1029
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: hit the ball much more solid. It feels weird, but

1030
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: it works. And for people with bigger hands, I think

1031
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: it's easier for them just to grip over it. For

1032
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: me with the bigger grips, it's like I can't even

1033
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: get my hand over there. And I just sat seventy six.

1034
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: I wasn't playing the tips, but I was playing really well.

1035
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: I would have broke aded from the TI, and to me,

1036
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: that's all I'm looking for. I play the tips any course.

1037
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: If I break eighty, I've played well, and at my

1038
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: point in time in golf like that's I'm playing golf,

1039
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: have fun and do content. Eventually, I don't really care

1040
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: about being a scratch golfer. If I'm just a two, three,

1041
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: four five range, you know, when I'm playing a lot,

1042
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: get a little closer. When I'm not be a five,

1043
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. Here's another question about Scotty. I

1044
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: read that only three people at fifteen PGA Tour wins

1045
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: and three major championships before the age twenty nine, Tiger,

1046
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: Jack Scottie, he's clearly an all time talent and he's young.

1047
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,839
Speaker 1: How many majors could he win? Could he ever get

1048
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: to ten? To me? I think tens. I think ten's

1049
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: kind of the number, and I think if he got

1050
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: to ten, that'd be pretty legendary. I think if he

1051
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: wins at Oakmont, he's in pretty good shape. I mean,

1052
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: if he wins at Oakmond, it would feel inevitable that

1053
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna win the career Grand Slam. Also, why I

1054
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: had the number of major championship wins by Jack and

1055
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: Tiger so unreachable. Will someone ever get above ten wins

1056
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 1: in our lifetime? Well a level of competition for Jack,

1057
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean three or four top guys, But you know

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00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: he came in that Arnold was older. Lee Trevino was

1059
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: probably his you would call his rival. You know, Johnny

1060
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: Miller came around in the seventies. I guess Jack won

1061
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: a major in his in his mid forties in the eighties.

1062
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: But even Tiger, I mean he faced Ernie Els, VJ Singh,

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00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: Phil Mickelson, Patrick Harrington got hot there for a while

1064
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: Ratief Goosen. I mean, there were some big time players,

1065
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: but I do think the depth of talent and in

1066
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: golf in an individual sport, like that's more impressive. If

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00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 1: Scotty were to get to ten majors, it would feel

1068
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: like he's the modern day Jack or Tiger. Now to me,

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00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: he's more Jack than Tiger because is one of the greatest,

1070
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:07,479
Speaker 1: most famous, marketable individuals ever and he was much more

1071
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: Energetic's probably the wrong way to describe it. Boisterous, just

1072
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: magnetic to watch. I mean there was like a remember

1073
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: when Barry Bonds and the peak of his steroid use

1074
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: would get up to bat and he was like, He's

1075
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: gonna break Baby Ruth's record, and he would just watch.

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00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: You know, you could be at a bar and everyone's

1077
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: head would turn. There was an element like that with Tiger,

1078
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: which there just isn't with Scotty and there never will be.

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00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: But the only way you can kind of create his

1080
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: version is just by beating everyone constantly, and then you

1081
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: just become the story of like can anyone beat this guy?

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00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: You just become Goliath and everyone's David. My question is

1083
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: what happened to aberg I was saying it all last year,

1084
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: the next number one golfer, seems like he's never in

1085
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: contention anymore. Well, he got injured, then he got surgery,

1086
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: then he gets really hot and he wins Tory Pines,

1087
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: which I guess was that actually supposed to be riv

1088
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: but because of the five, and then he's played pretty shitty.

1089
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: I think he did just shoot yesterday like sixty six

1090
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: at the Memorial, his first signs of life in a while.

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00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: I also think golf's hard, and that's what makes what

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00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: Scotty's doing so crazy. Sometimes you get injured, you just

1093
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: start playing off. You just start playing in your little off.

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00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: You know, Aberg's never been a great putter. But I

1095
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't have a great answer for you.

1096
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: They don't show him on TV as much anymore, so

1097
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: it's hard to watch. What's your opinion on the PGA

1098
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: rolling back some of the modern equipment allowed on tour.

1099
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: I saw a tweet where Nicholas was quoted talking about

1100
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: today's game compared to golf in the past, roughly nineteen

1101
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: ninety five. I think I was born in ninety six.

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00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: He was talking about how today's balls go further and

1103
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: it forces courses to lengthen, which only does two things,

1104
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: take longer to play and costs more money. He was saying,

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00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: how back in the day, thousands of courses were able

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00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: to host events, compared to today only a few hundred, and

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00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: if balls are going one yard further per year, what

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01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: happened in forty years. I saw a video where the

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01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: Patrick Reid saying he'd like to see driver faces go

1110
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: back to smaller, less forgiving irons. You could argue, I'm

1111
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: unbothered by it, like I'm fine with where they're going

1112
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: right now, because I don't believe that we'll see a

1113
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: guy driving it three hundred and ninety yards. It's kind

1114
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: of like baseball, like they've have they kind of peaked

1115
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: on velocity. Or are we gonna see guys throwing one

1116
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,439
Speaker 1: hundred and ten? Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe in ten years

1117
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: we'll see like seven guys throwing one hundred and eight.

1118
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: But I don't know, Like Bryson clearly hits the ball

1119
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: farther and basically everybody, and you know, Rory's been chilling

1120
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 1: at whatever three twenty three thirty now for a while

1121
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: and most of the top guys, So I doubt it happens.

1122
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: But if it does. I'm also not gonna complain. I

1123
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: don't really care one way or the other. I guess

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01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: for the health of the professional game, you would bring

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01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: in a lot more courses if they hit it whatever

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01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 1: thirty yards shorter, So Rory would go from three point

1127
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: thirty to three or five, and the guys into three

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01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 1: hundred would go to two seventy. It would still be

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01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: a huge advantage for Rory, for bryceon for Xander. They're

1130
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: never going back to the old school equipment in the

1131
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: sense of little driver heads, but they could, you know,

1132
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: lighten the potency of the driver for sure. Watching Ben

1133
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 1: Griffin win the Colonial made me think, why don't more

1134
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: pros wear sunglasses? I might be assisty because I don't

1135
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: think I'd get comfortable playing a round of golf on

1136
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: a sunny day without shades. Just strikes me as unusual.

1137
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: What's funny is I was on YouTube after the Saturday

1138
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: round finished and I saw Ben Griffin giving his press conference,

1139
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: and in the press conference the headline was like I

1140
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 1: believe I can take down Scotti. So I was like, oh,

1141
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: forced me to click, and I clicked on it. Then

1142
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: he was asked about the sunglasses why he's essentially what

1143
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: you're saying, he wore sunglasses because he had I guess

1144
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: holes in his I might be describing this incorrectly in

1145
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: his retina, and he says he sees floaters, and I

1146
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: was like, what floaters? What does he mean? He says,

1147
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: basically black spots. So in the middle of the day

1148
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: when the sun's out, he gets blurry vision. He had

1149
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: to have a laser surgery to just make it so

1150
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: it didn't get any worse. And these sunglasses are a

1151
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: prescription that help him not see the floaters. Essentially, So

1152
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 1: he's not wearing these strictly because it's sunny outside. He's

1153
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: doing it because of an eye issue that he had.

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01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I like wearing I don't have great vision,

1155
01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 1: and the polaroid von Zippers or whatever golf glass as

1156
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 1: I wear help me see I feel like I do

1157
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: think golfers one, they don't need to watch their ball really,

1158
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: like off the tee, right, the hardest thing ball to

1159
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: see clearly is off the tee because if we're one

1160
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty in, even if you don't have great vision,

1161
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: you can see where the ball lands yet off the

1162
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 1: tee if you hit it decently far two hundred and

1163
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: fifty plus yards. It's easy to like, where's my ball?

1164
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: Where these guys? There's a fucking guy there with a

1165
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: flag and you have a caddy. So even if you

1166
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: don't see that, well, who cares. I The reason he

1167
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: wears is because of the eyes. Question about Rory faded

1168
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: into irrelevance after the Master's dodging the media. Where's the fight?

1169
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of sad because it did feel like, honestly,

1170
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: it's a defining moment for Scotty. It was like he said, no,

1171
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: this is not happening on my watch. This ain't Rory's year,

1172
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: just because last year was my year, It's gonna be

1173
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: my year again. So why I think we respect so

1174
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: much about the best players. I'm not a Lebron James guy,

1175
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: but I do respect how hard he's worked to maintain

1176
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: his level of play. You know him and Steph Curry

1177
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: playing at such a high level at thirty seven and

1178
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: forty years old like that takes a lot of grind,

1179
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: That takes a lot of inner fire. It's what defined

1180
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: Brady and Tiger and Jordan and Kobe and Scott. He

1181
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: has that clearly, so it's what makes us gravitate towards

1182
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: certain individuals. Is that quality? Okay? Last question? Quick question

1183
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 1: on Ben Griffin. Lots have been made that he was

1184
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: broke out on the golf course for two years. During

1185
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: that time, some friends agreed to stake him for two

1186
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: years while he worked his way to the PGA Tour,

1187
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: either on corn Ferry or the PGA. What type of

1188
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: financial arrangement would be typical in this case? Would they

1189
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: pay his expenses for two years or get a future

1190
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: cut of his earnings, just a repayment of the money

1191
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: outlaid or something else. We hear this happening a lot

1192
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 1: in basketball and football pre nil where the agent would

1193
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: give the player money to work out ahead of the

1194
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 1: draft tryouts. But how often does this happen in golf?

1195
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: I think it happens a decent amount in like music,

1196
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: in individual sports, and specifically in golf, because, like in baseball,

1197
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: if I'm in the minor leagues, the team's still paying, right,

1198
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: I'm not making much money, but the team's paying for

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01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: my housing. The team's paying at least giving me a

1200
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: little stipend. In golf, no one gives you anything, So

1201
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: if you're kind of a nobody and you don't have

1202
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: a club sponsor, a clothing sponsor, you have no cash

1203
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 1: coming in. You need some money to be able to survive.

1204
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: So an example is last year, a couple of years ago, Doherty,

1205
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: he plays on the corn Ferry Tour. He actually lives

1206
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: out here in Arizona. I think Riggs at Barstool met him.

1207
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: He was catting at a country club here at silver

1208
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: Leaf for a ram place and female and they met him,

1209
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: he liked him, they played it. Maybe it was at

1210
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: mesa country club I forget, and Riggs kind of heard

1211
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: his story and then played with him and realized he

1212
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: was really good. He didn't have any money, and Riggs

1213
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: gave him fifty thousand dollars and didn't even say like

1214
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: you don't even need to pay me back, like I'm

1215
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: just here to help. And Doherty, I think, was one

1216
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: stroke away from getting his PGA Tour card last year,

1217
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: made hundreds of thousands of dollars last year on the

1218
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: corn Fery. So you get examples of someone just giving

1219
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: you fifty grand, one hundred grand, like this is gonna

1220
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: be money, there's gonna go towards your travel and just

1221
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: to help you live. Then there are the cases females

1222
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: going through this or someone basically I will fund your

1223
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: early career for ten percent of your earnings and perpetuity.

1224
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,919
Speaker 1: That deal is fucking terrible if you hit a big

1225
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: because if you become female, I gotta pay this guy

1226
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life at ten percent. Some

1227
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: of these deals are simply like, hey, listen, I'm here

1228
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: to help you out. Send me the bills, or here's

1229
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: one hundred grand, just pay me back. And typically if

1230
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: I can give you a one hundred grand, if I'm

1231
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: not taking like a helock out against my home or

1232
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, a second mortgage, which I guess would be

1233
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: a he lock, just selling a bunch of stock to

1234
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: help you out, are those type people gonna pay you back.

1235
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: So I think if it's a friend doing it, it's

1236
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: like I just start. When you make a big fucking

1237
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: bring me to some tournaments, never forget where I was.

1238
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: That's how If I knew someone in that situation and

1239
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: could financially help them, I think that'd be pretty cool,

1240
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: especially if you believed in the player. I think a

1241
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: lot of time it's what you talked about, it's what

1242
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 1: happens in football and basketball. I'll give you a two

1243
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: hundred grand right now, but for the first five years,

1244
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: if you make it, I want twenty percent of every

1245
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:16,640
Speaker 1: penny you earn. And sometimes people are so desperate that

1246
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: they do that, and it's just it's a shitty deal always. Now,

1247
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: I think the other person would argue, well, it's like

1248
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: they didn't have anything, where would they be without me? True,

1249
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: But then it's just simply like a business proposition and

1250
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: you're you know, I'll give you a little now for

1251
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 1: a lot to come. I don't know if that's exactly

1252
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: the definition of loan sharking, but I think there's always

1253
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: been elements of that with agents pre nil and I

1254
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: think in golf sometimes it happens. And listen, if you

1255
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: are young and you don't have any money, and you're like,

1256
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 1: how am I going to pay to do all this?

1257
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: And someone gives you that proposition, you almost have to

1258
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: say yes, and it's like you look back ten years ago,

1259
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: it's like, I can't just pay you back. You know,

1260
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: it's I do get it. But usually those people are

1261
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: kind of praying on people the situations. I was at

1262
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 1: this farmer's party probably like three or four years ago

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Speaker 1: with my brother. My brother went to Fresno State, and

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Speaker 1: his college roommate is now like works for one of

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Speaker 1: the biggest almond farmers in America. John Party, the country musician,

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Speaker 1: is from northern California, and this farmer knows him. So

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Speaker 1: this farmer, big ego guy, rich guy through this party

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Speaker 1: in the Central Valley by Fresno for like invited like

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Speaker 1: twenty five hundred people and Joan Jet and John Party played,

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Speaker 1: and then there was an after party and somehow in

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Speaker 1: this room, my brother John Party and me ended up

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Speaker 1: with like a twelve back and we're just drinking corpse light,

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Speaker 1: just bullshit with John Party. And John Party told this

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Speaker 1: story about this this guy that started this company called

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Speaker 1: Cou YOUU, which is a really kind of big up

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Speaker 1: and I don't even think it's up and coming anymore,

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Speaker 1: but it's a hunting company that they were both from

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Speaker 1: the same hometown. And the guy that started COO You

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Speaker 1: had played footballt Uc Davis and told John at one

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Speaker 1: point in time like, listen, man, you can't stay here.

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Speaker 1: You need to go to Nashville. And John's like, can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't afford to go there. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly now the money the guy gave John, but he

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Speaker 1: gave him thousands of dollars and he's like, the only

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Speaker 1: reason I moved to Nashville was because Jason, who has

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Speaker 1: since passed away, but funded his career plight out there

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Speaker 1: and John loved this guy. And I don't think Jason

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Speaker 1: asked for anything back, And I think sometimes that's the

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Speaker 1: ideal situation. The situation Tony's in are the messy ones.

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Speaker 1: I think you see that a lot in golf and

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Speaker 1: sometimes in basketball too, where you get these guys that

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Speaker 1: fucking prey on you and take advantage of you when

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Speaker 1: you don't even know what the hell's going on, and

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Speaker 1: then they signed these contracts that like, I own you

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Speaker 1: for the rest of my career. It's just that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate anyone that just, you know, if you

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Speaker 1: have the means, just help someone out and then if

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Speaker 1: that person ends up paying you back, awesome. And if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't, as long as he's like invites you to

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Speaker 1: shit every once in a while and like recognizes that

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been there without you, And that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty powerful thing to do. And props to everyone who's

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Speaker 1: ever done that the right way and not tried to

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Speaker 1: like bloodsuck off a little investment. And usually when they

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Speaker 1: do that, they do it to a lot of people

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Speaker 1: and they hope one or two hit and then they

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Speaker 1: then they profit. So long winded way of saying audios,

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Speaker 1: the volume