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Speaker 1: Wrapping it Up podcast Wilson, This is beat Odd beat Out.

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Speaker 1: What's up baby?

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Speaker 2: Feeling good? Feeling great? How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm Soper proud of this season man, about what ten

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Speaker 3: episodes in? Yeah, I've been saying, I've been saying Tyler's

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Speaker 3: the best interview. I've been saying young boys the biggest

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Speaker 3: and if he was two point four ms not that

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Speaker 3: I not that beat Our cares about the numbers, but

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Speaker 3: it's two point four ms up there not just the numbers,

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Speaker 3: the numbers, the numbers by people bigging up the last

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Speaker 3: Jezy episode and saying that's their favorite.

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Speaker 1: Stephen Victim, Man, I'm really proud of this the season

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Speaker 1: so far.

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Speaker 2: Beat Us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this season is going. It's going pretty well.

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Speaker 4: Like you know what the thing is like, it's so unpredictable, right,

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Speaker 4: like you never know who we're gonna get. It's always

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Speaker 4: about timing and like why right now? But so far,

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Speaker 4: I think the Tyler interview might have been my favorite

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Speaker 4: because he's to me the perfect guess. You know, It's

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Speaker 4: like a lot of times it's like pulling tea for

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Speaker 4: a lot of these artists, but you know, Tyler has

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Speaker 4: a lot to say.

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Speaker 1: He and he says a lot.

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Speaker 4: And he always brings it back to his original point,

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Speaker 4: which I really admire. But it's it's it's you know,

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Speaker 4: I understand why everyone likes certain things.

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Speaker 2: For certain reasons.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people don't realize, man, what they knew. How the

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Speaker 3: people beat up and shutting down behind the scenes. Man,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, it's hard to get that

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Speaker 3: rapperate on podcast booking Baby, Yes, we're not talking to

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Speaker 3: Spooty G.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Swooty G might want to talk man, pop is

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Speaker 1: fifty years old.

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Speaker 3: Man, come on, man, everybody's successible, man, everybody's relevant relevant.

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Speaker 3: It's footy alive, hoodies alive. Man shout spooty Gee, or

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Speaker 3: it's family or whatever. Man, easy man, swooty. But you know,

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Speaker 3: we finally crossed another bar and beat out today's guests.

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Speaker 3: We have a woman, a woman on the Rapperator podcast.

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Speaker 3: Besides this for thirty episod over the Women.

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Speaker 1: Behold the Lady, Behold the lady is on.

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Speaker 4: The platform, man, a returning lady at that. It's not

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Speaker 4: first time on the rodeo. Well, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: we got our pronouns right there.

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Speaker 3: I don't even no disrespect, but I'm talking about the

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Speaker 3: one and the only, the loveliest talented Janelle Money.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that was a good day at the office. Man.

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Speaker 1: She is She's dope. She's super dope.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: That's bread interview where like you, she made us feel good,

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Speaker 3: right man, that's special.

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Speaker 4: You know that that made you like having a guess

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Speaker 4: like her just kind of reaffirm who we are.

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Speaker 2: It's so good, you know.

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Speaker 4: And I ran it too her a couple of months

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Speaker 4: ago at the Rock Nation brought So she told me

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Speaker 4: that she wanted to sit down with us, and she

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Speaker 4: was really happy with the first conversation that we had

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Speaker 4: almost like five years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were standing for that Jango Jay record. I

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Speaker 1: remember we were like yo, yeah janelleka rap.

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Speaker 4: So it's like it's funny, how funny how time flies

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Speaker 4: and now here we are, you know, years later, and.

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Speaker 2: She's still working at a high level.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because a lot of times with her, so

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Speaker 3: she's doing press and she's making these really sexy videos

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Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, all of that's cool, but

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Speaker 3: you know what about the music and I feel like,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's like you always say, like you see

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Speaker 3: those radio interviews when you go to the Railo station.

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Speaker 2: They haven't even heard your album.

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Speaker 1: It's just like it's tiring, right.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: And then arnists really be surprised. I was tell people

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Speaker 3: to guess. Part of our secret is that me and

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Speaker 3: Betot you know the jay Z do we skipped through

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Speaker 3: the music or really listen to the ship.

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Speaker 2: We listened to.

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Speaker 3: Music, you know, me and Beatot of music hip hop,

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Speaker 3: yeap R and B and we really listen deeply to

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Speaker 3: the music.

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Speaker 1: We do research separately, and that's why we can come

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Speaker 1: to come to these edgies prepared.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: It's only when the guest is surprised that you heard

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Speaker 1: their album, like or he read the book, or he

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Speaker 1: saw their movie or like yeah we watched it, we

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Speaker 3: No, there's really some really great moments in View where

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Speaker 3: she literally like takes a breathfast, just like, oh shit,

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Speaker 3: I forgot. Like you guys are like real journalists, Like

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Speaker 3: this is great, Like have an intelligent conversation about like

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Speaker 3: life and my music, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know that's people have to do.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'll be inspired the next generation man, Like it's

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Speaker 3: I also treat you today, beat Out, you might like this, man,

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Speaker 3: you always talk about the trap of a dead I said,

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Speaker 3: journalism made dead.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's been scared, you know what I mean. It's just like,

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Speaker 1: don't be afraid, don't.

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Speaker 3: Be afraid, man, Aaron Hall Man, don't be afraid. Don't

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Speaker 3: be afraid. Baby, go through your research.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I thought you want to be streaming and shit, but

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Speaker 3: do some research man, you know what I mean. Listen

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Speaker 3: to that record again, run it back, man, take some

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Speaker 3: notes and she has some great music, and especially the

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Speaker 3: one Champagne Ship. I think that's my favorite on the album,

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Speaker 3: All the Pleasure, No, all the Pleasure Mans, like you said,

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Speaker 3: purposefully made it like about thirty five minutes. It's like

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Speaker 3: it's a continuously dope. Listen straight through. Run it you

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Speaker 3: can run it back. It's a great party album. It's

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Speaker 3: a great kickback album. Some of vacation album. It's like Yo,

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Speaker 3: it's a soundtrack of the summer. A lot of ways

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Speaker 3: to me, it's an easy listen man. Hopefully y'all find

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Speaker 3: this conversation to be an easy listen as well.

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Speaker 2: So let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it man with the one only Janelle

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Speaker 3: Monee Wrap It Up podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, wrap it Up.

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Speaker 3: Podcast, Elliott Wilson beat out, what's up, aby Field.

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Speaker 2: I'm like in the Age of Pleasure right now? Literally, yes,

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Speaker 2: Miss Janelle Monee is here.

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Speaker 5: Yes, man here, Welcome to the Age a Pleasure.

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Speaker 2: That's the hell of the title. Now, that's the hell

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Speaker 2: of the title. You Like, when did it land? When

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Speaker 2: did you know? Like that's the title? Was that? What

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Speaker 2: was the magic moment?

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Speaker 6: Was like this title woke me up at four thirty

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Speaker 6: the morning. I was going back and forth. I had

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Speaker 6: like in my notes, like at least eight titles.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was this.

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Speaker 6: I was gonna name it Black Sugar Beach, which is

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Speaker 6: one of the songs, and I was like, man, that's

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Speaker 6: not it. You gotta capture the moment that you're in,

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Speaker 6: like this is a soundtrack to a lifestyle and what

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Speaker 6: kind of light? What kind of life am I living?

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Speaker 5: Right now? Are we living?

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Speaker 6: And it woke me up out of my sleep and

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Speaker 6: it was like the Age of Pleasure And I just

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Speaker 6: kept saying it for like around people.

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Speaker 2: It's powerful.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I know you had a spreadsheet of over

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Speaker 4: fifty song concepts, right, do you remember some of the

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Speaker 5: How do you know that I do?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we have probably about a good hundred.

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Speaker 6: This album was so fun and I love the approach

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Speaker 6: that I took this time around. We were in the

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Speaker 6: middle of the pandemic, right, and you guys know every

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Speaker 6: day people because New York, we went to.

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Speaker 5: All the parties, right MoMA and Saint Claire in New York. Yep.

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Speaker 6: I went back, like shoot a decade ago to go

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Speaker 6: into the parties. But anyway, most beautiful brown black people

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Speaker 6: New York, La, Atlanta all together partying in a safe

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Speaker 6: had come out here to La and I was just like,

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Speaker 6: y'all should just come to our studio like space, we'll

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Speaker 6: do something. We can't have a lot of people here

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Speaker 6: because we're not supposed to be partying, right, We're still

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Speaker 6: in the pandemic, people still spreading life style on cardboard boxes.

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Speaker 6: So we tested people and kept everybody outdoors. But at

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Speaker 6: this is to be protected, this is to be preserved.

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Speaker 6: I want to make music for my people. These are

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Speaker 6: the music for, everything shifted. So if we knew we

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Speaker 6: my friends. We went in the studio and I was like,

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Speaker 6: work in rotation. Don't tell nobody it's me. Don't announce shit,

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Speaker 6: don't sain't nothing because it out. Let's see how it's working.

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Speaker 6: And that Saturday, we would play the songs and I'll

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Speaker 6: and then some friends like knew my voice. They'd be

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Speaker 6: literally were moving. I was like, if people sat down,

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Speaker 6: it's not going on the album. And so of those

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Speaker 6: moments that happened, there were experiences that happened at the

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Speaker 5: Space for us.

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Speaker 6: It's just like we're coming there all feeling like safe,

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Speaker 2: At a time when the world is so unsafe.

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Speaker 6: For me feeling so unsafe, this was like our little

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Speaker 6: safe space. And what I would do is I would

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Speaker 6: I would just write, you know, about everything that I

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Speaker 6: that I was witnessing, So then I would write, let

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Speaker 6: me tell you Colm again. So then I would write

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Speaker 6: about everything that was happening. I mean what Nina Samm says.

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Speaker 6: You know, an artist's job is to reflect the times.

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Speaker 6: And a motherfucking time was had, Like seriously, it was,

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Speaker 6: it was had. And so I just wrote like lipstick lover.

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Speaker 2: The Gate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like people were just moving.

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Speaker 6: And you can always tell when a song is working

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Speaker 6: when people have drank a little bit, because they gonna

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Speaker 6: give you the truth, like if they're like drunk or

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Speaker 6: their their tipsy, like if it's not working, they're gonna

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Speaker 5: And I'm one of those people.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, all right, I'll get up whenever, you know,

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Speaker 6: the next song comes on. And so I just remember

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Speaker 6: going to the mirror after somebody had kissed all over here,

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Speaker 6: over here, over here, red lipstick everywhere and just being like,

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Speaker 6: that's a song like that right there, because I've had

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Speaker 6: many of those moments, but I had never written about them.

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Speaker 5: So that's it.

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Speaker 6: I just I just allowed myself. I gave myself permission

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Speaker 5: I wrote a book I bought Oh man, I.

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Speaker 6: Came here with gifts for y'all for your support, and

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Speaker 5: But I wrote a book.

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Speaker 6: Called The Memory Librarian and Other Stories from Dirty Computer,

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Speaker 5: I signed it for y'all than the other they're not

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Speaker 6: Now if it don't you know, well you can cut

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Speaker 6: But yeah, like I had to dig deep into things

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Speaker 6: And this actually helped me write the Age of Pleasure

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Speaker 6: How can I create and realize a world with what list?

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Speaker 5: What do I? Who am I? Outside of.

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Speaker 6: Fighting, you know, fighting to to convince people that me

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Speaker 5: You know that there's nothing wrong with me. That I

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Speaker 5: What can I do? When the mission is love? Joy?

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Speaker 6: How do we create a world of community, an oasis

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Speaker 5: And safety was important.

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Speaker 6: How do we create a safe space because there is

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Speaker 2: So anyway, yeah, I mean that's the thing too.

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Speaker 3: When we first came into game, we don't wearing the

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Speaker 2: So you keep evolving as an artist. It's amazing to

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Speaker 4: And as far as music, man, when I'm listening to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I love us so much no matter where we

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Speaker 6: And it was such an honor to be able to

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Speaker 2: I heard you spent three days with Grace Jones. What

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Speaker 6: Like, I spent seventy two hours with Grace Joones. I

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Speaker 6: I said, come to Wonderland. I love to like, we

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Speaker 6: And she was like okay, and I was just like,

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Speaker 5: We just like just free, just like living existing.

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Speaker 6: And so she spun me around and she noticed my

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Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, we're connected.

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Speaker 6: then we recorded. We went to the she came in

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Speaker 6: good hour of her record. She recorded on multiple songs,

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00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 6: multiple songs, so you know, maybe we'll do something later

441
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 6: with it. But it's just an honor to be able

442
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 6: to tell her how much she means to me and

443
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 6: how much she has affirmed me, you know, as I

444
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 6: have evolved and I've decided to honor all of me.

445
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 6: For her to affirm me and tell me to go forward.

446
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 6: You know, I really have to say, like I really

447
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 6: have to thank her over and over and over again.

448
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 2: And beat that I mentioned, you made too many concepts

449
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: and songs.

450
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: It's interesting how you cut it down to fourteen thirty

451
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 3: something minute length, Like why was that so intentional?

452
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 6: You know, I usually like my arch Android, I did

453
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 6: like a double album. I think even with Electric Lady

454
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 6: that was a double album. Dirty Computer was not. I

455
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 6: think I liked the replayable value of it for myself,

456
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 6: like I did, yeah, run it back, because that's what

457
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 6: I was finding myself when I was listening to it.

458
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, after a dry red and then

459
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 6: Float came back on, I was like, oh, I can

460
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 6: listen to this over and over again, and then if

461
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 6: we want to listen to other people music, we can

462
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 6: go after that and listen to others.

463
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 5: We can.

464
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 6: You know, you have you not overstanding, You're welcome, and

465
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 6: for me, that's what it's about. It's about coming in,

466
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 6: saying thank you, I love.

467
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: You, and good night and the masterful secrecy too.

468
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 6: You like to see, Okay, how did it work for y'all?

469
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 6: Like I know y'all music it's lovers y'all've.

470
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: Heard and doesn't get enough credit the producer.

471
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 3: Oh that side of you like talk about that, like

472
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: how you put because it seems like there's so much

473
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: care in transitions and production across the board.

474
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know a lot of this album I engineered myself,

475
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 6: like a lot like it float. You know, I worked

476
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 6: And I got to give a shout out too, because

477
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 6: when you make these, when we as artists sort of

478
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 6: have a vision, we have to have our trust, our

479
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 6: brain trust of people that you're like, Okay, here's.

480
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 5: What I'm thinking, listen to this. And I have to

481
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 5: give a shout out to Nate Rocket Wonder, who's been

482
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 5: with me since every album.

483
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 6: You know, there's nothing musically we can't do together and

484
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 6: he can't do. Nuna Quab and I who was the

485
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 6: DJ at the parties playing some of the some of

486
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 6: the music and worked on Yeah, I worked on in

487
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 6: production with me and as well as Bueno since a

488
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 6: Buyno like us three really like we're the nucleus. And

489
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 6: you know, when I was putting together the Seguins, when

490
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 6: we all were listening to it, we we were like, no, Nah,

491
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 6: this needs to go here, this needs to go here.

492
00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 6: And ultimately me trusting them and them trust me.

493
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 5: Led us to that. We just knew like it felt good.

494
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 6: And because none of is one of the only DJs

495
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 6: you know with us and I picked up DJ in

496
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 6: a little bit, so I know a little bit about DJ,

497
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 6: but he was able to say, like, in terms of

498
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 6: sequence and tempo, this is if we're talking about like

499
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 6: putting something on for the party, like this is where

500
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 6: you're gonna lag if you put a song on there

501
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 6: that's like under this bpm. So once I kind of

502
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 6: knew that, then I could make decisions like just knowing like, okay,

503
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 6: so the songs that I like are not over this bpm,

504
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 6: but they're under oh okay.

505
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 5: So that helped me. That helped become a guide for me.

506
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: You said you wanted to capture kind of a four

507
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: pm to four am.

508
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I did, think, you know what, I just want

509
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 6: to say, I appreciate real journalism. I appreciate y'all listening

510
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 6: doing your research knowing that absolutely this album was so

511
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 6: intentional because when you think about those parties, their day.

512
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 5: Parties, and they go in tonight.

513
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 6: So right, so like if you went to an everyday

514
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 6: people party, you know it's starting around three pm, four pm,

515
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 6: and so I wanted the songs for you to be

516
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 6: able to have like that batch of songs that you

517
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 6: can put on from that four to six pm slot.

518
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 6: Then when the sun is going down between that like

519
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 6: six to nine, what are we playing? And then some

520
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 6: of the songs even from four to six pm, work

521
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 6: from like that nine to midnight slot. Okay, so when

522
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 6: everybody around midnight are trying to figure out, Okay, who

523
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 6: you going home with tonight?

524
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 5: What are those songs you.

525
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 6: Know you're listening to no better you listening to paid

526
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 6: and Pleasure. Then it's going into Only Have Eyes two,

527
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 6: which can be played at four PM or four in

528
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 6: the morning because you're trying to think about which people

529
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,360
Speaker 6: you're going to go home with at night if you're

530
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 6: at my party. And then right and then when you

531
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 6: get to like the ooh the dry Red, like that's

532
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 6: watching the sun come up. You're watching the sun come

533
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 6: up with that person and you're just like, wow, we

534
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 6: just had a night, we had a day, we had

535
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 6: an experience, So that was important when we played those

536
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 6: songs during those slots, and then they worked.

537
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we mentioned the sequence in Champagne Shit kind

538
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: of melts into black sugar Beach and like it gives

539
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 4: it its own moment.

540
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 5: I want to hear right now, what is Champagne ship?

541
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: What does that mean? It feels like a big pimping

542
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 2: kind of moment.

543
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 5: Ooh, it does have that, like it can go either way.

544
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 6: I think for me, champagne is more of a state

545
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 6: of mind, Like it's not literally being like, go get

546
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 6: some champagne because a lot of us can't afford champagne.

547
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Shit.

548
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 6: I couldn't afford champagne until I started really working, and

549
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 6: some of us may not like it. But when you

550
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 6: think about champagne, though, what is it representative successes but

551
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 6: also celebrations and most.

552
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 5: Times are we drinking champagne alone.

553
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 6: Or with with with a group community champagne it's when

554
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 6: you win, when you with your day ones, when you

555
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 6: with your people, and that's what that represents, Like we

556
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 6: on our Champagne ship unapologetically. Like one of my favorite

557
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 6: lines is don't ask me shit about work because I'm

558
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 6: on my champagne shit. Don't ask me shit about work

559
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 6: because I'm on my champagne shit. Like I was, like,

560
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 6: I know everybody don't feel that line.

561
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 5: I hear it.

562
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: I felt theseggs about to make a whole lot of money.

563
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 5: Let me tell you that these niggas about to make

564
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 5: a whole lot of money. When I wrote that line,

565
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 5: I chuckled because one time I went to Magic City

566
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 5: in Atlanta, because I you know, I've lived in Atlanta.

567
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 5: I still have my place there for since, like really

568
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 5: the beginning of my career, and I would always go

569
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 5: to Magic City and I just remember looking at the

570
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 5: girls and being like, damn, they're about to make a

571
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 5: whole lot of money tonight. And I've always wanted to

572
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 5: say it. And I was like, this is the pro

573
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 5: for your time. So I'm so happy, y'all. I'm so

574
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 5: happy that y'all like the stuff to get a video.

575
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 5: Look at you, Okay, you want to I love it,

576
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 5: he said. Let me tell you.

577
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 6: I'm putting my I'm putting it out there. Well, I'm

578
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 6: trying to figure out we got some stuff.

579
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 5: We got some stuff. You know.

580
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 6: I had a wonderful time. I co directed Lipstick Lover

581
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 6: and uh.

582
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 3: Water Slides. It like to put these visuals out there

583
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: shut the world down, like immediately, like you obviously doing

584
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: what's good, but like I feel like instantly the visuals

585
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: just shut the world down.

586
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 5: Man. Listen.

587
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 6: It's like I was talking to a friend and I

588
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 6: was just like, it's so difficult to impress about this

589
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 6: project because it's so much of our lives, Like this

590
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 6: is not a even the talking points are from a

591
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 6: lived experience. It's not a it's not something that I

592
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 6: have to a role out that I have to plan

593
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 6: or I have to do. Like literally, it's really our

594
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: lives and it's how we how we how we lived.

595
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 6: And I've been thankful that it's resonated in the way

596
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 6: that it's resonated. But every A lot of the people

597
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 6: that you see in the visuals are my real friends,

598
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 6: you know. These are people that I yeah, these are

599
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 6: people that I hang out with. These are people that

600
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 6: you know, are are are people that have given me

601
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 6: such rich experiences.

602
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 5: They've made me feel safe.

603
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 6: Like I can be all of me around them and

604
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 6: I don't got to worry about, you know, uh, anybody

605
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 6: making me feel you know, shameful or unsafe uh in

606
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 6: these spaces. And it's just a love letter back to them.

607
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 6: And so for that to resonate, that's something that comes

608
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 6: so pure for me and my friends, Like that's like

609
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 6: so beautiful because I love them and I like that

610
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 6: we're being celebrated.

611
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 5: You know, we're being celebrated. We are very celebrated. We

612
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 5: shot Lipstick Lover actually at at Wonderland, right at you know,

613
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 5: right in it really is. It's special.

614
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 6: It's it's special, and you know, we do everything we

615
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 6: can to preserve that and make if people come into

616
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 6: that space, you know, you to honor that. Like not

617
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 6: everybody can get into wonder like you know, I have

618
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 6: a lot of friends who are even in the industry,

619
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 6: they're very successful, and they can't even come because it's

620
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,719
Speaker 6: a vibe. You got to understand the vibe. You got

621
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 6: to understand the energy. It's not about how much money

622
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 6: you have, you know, it's not it's not about class.

623
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 6: It's not about our classis excuse me, It's not about

624
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 6: all that.

625
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 5: It's like, you got to understand the energy.

626
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 6: And we try to make sure that the aura is checked,

627
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 6: it checked. I have an Aura Checker BEFO where you

628
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 6: come in and you would get scanned and if your

629
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 6: stuff is coming up all a check like a blob

630
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 6: like huh, hey, you gotta you know, listen, we love you,

631
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 6: but you gotta go deal with that and be ready

632
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 6: to come into the party. Even myself, you know, I

633
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 6: wasn't always somebody that could take in the beauty of

634
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 6: something like a Wonderland because of my own healing that

635
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 6: I needed to do.

636
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 5: You know how you can.

637
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 6: Walk into a party and you just you just really

638
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 6: are not in a good space.

639
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 5: You need to go home.

640
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the so dope about the video.

641
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: It's like a rotic gets sexy, but it's not gratuitous,

642
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: you know, it's not like sleeez or anything like that.

643
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 4: I love the fact that you showed your mom and

644
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 4: she gave you the feedback for it. She said she

645
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 4: hoped that the Big Booty would have wait for.

646
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 5: My live is hilarious.

647
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 6: Like I was like, let me, let let me show

648
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 6: her this before it comes out, okay, and so literally

649
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 6: like every thing I put up, she my mother is.

650
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 5: I love that we've come so far.

651
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 6: Like I grew up in a pretty My mom wasn't

652
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 6: really conservative, but her mom was. You know, my grandmother

653
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 6: was born and raised in Aberdeen, Mississippi, and she was

654
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 6: from that black you know, the black generation where you know,

655
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 6: church was all they had. It was a means of survival.

656
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 6: And so whatever their church taught them, you taught your kids,

657
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 6: and your kids taught them taught their kids, and a

658
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 6: lot of things were passed down, certain things that you

659
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 6: know right now, God rest my grandmother. So like, you know,

660
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 6: I grew up in a church that was very homophobic,

661
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 6: like most churches, like you, we were taught you homosexual,

662
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 6: You going to you going to hell? You know, a

663
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 6: church where you need to wear you know, I have

664
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 6: a skirt, a long skirt on today, but that was

665
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 6: the norm, Like you could not show skin. They would

666
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 6: talk down about women who would show their cleavage.

667
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 5: You know, I was.

668
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 6: I was always taught even when I got in the

669
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 6: music industry, like, oh, don't be like those video girls,

670
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 6: you know, make sure you you know, you dress this

671
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 6: way or you look this way, and you know they're Jezebels.

672
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 5: Don't be a Jezebel. Wow, you know that.

673
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 6: And but that's not it's not just my experience. So

674
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 6: many of our our people are conditioned to align and

675
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 6: assimilate with misogyny, to assimilate with conservative views that have

676
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 6: for generations stop the freedom and the autonomy of women,

677
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 6: specifically Black women specifically. And so anyway, I'm saying all

678
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 6: this to say, I'm so happy that my mother has

679
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 6: come around to being very supportive of me and who

680
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 6: I am, you know, as her daughter, and for her

681
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 6: to see me living out my truth. You know, unapologetically

682
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 6: and me knowing that I have a mother who is

683
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 6: when she's in a room with whoever, she's gonna have

684
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 6: my back.

685
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 5: It's no small thing. It's no small thing. Yeah.

686
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: Another woman that had your back was Ni Along.

687
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 5: She's on my crush, my forever crush. That's when I knew.

688
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 5: When I saw Na Along, I was like.

689
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: I think we all do everybody right.

690
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 6: And she's such a good person too, like I'm so

691
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 6: happy to have, you know, a friendship with her, and

692
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 6: she was.

693
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 5: She killed it in the suitter. She was like, really

694
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 5: one take and I got to engineer her. I got

695
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 5: to one day I'll release you know footage. I got

696
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 5: to engineer her and so many other people on the

697
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 5: on the project, and she her voice. I wanted that

698
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 5: love Jones, like you know, pheel your ocean, come to

699
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 5: my moon. Let already become a month soon because I

700
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 5: demoed it up.

701
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 6: But I was like, the only other person that could

702
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 6: really kill this would be like n Along.

703
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 5: And she said, hell, yeah, I texted her.

704
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: Before.

705
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 5: She's never I don't. I don't think so. She yeah,

706
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 5: she's you know, she's a special person, very special.

707
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 4: She's kind of like an executive producer because she gave

708
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 4: you like approval for the photos to use and things

709
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: like that.

710
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 5: Yes, she did. She was like, don't use She was

711
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 5: worried about like when she came over to record, you know,

712
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 5: she was like, don't use those photos.

713
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 6: Oh wait, okay, No, I'm like, how you know about

714
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 6: that conversation?

715
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 5: Okay?

716
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 6: Because I put her in the trailer and so she

717
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 6: had come over and we were all dressed down and

718
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 6: she didn't know what she looked like. And I sent

719
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 6: sent it to her and she said, yes, okay approved,

720
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 6: you know, you can use that photo. But I showed

721
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 6: her my press photos of me coming out the water,

722
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 6: which was paying homage to you know, the old old

723
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 6: Jamaica advertisement photo and shout out. And I showed her

724
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 6: the press photos and she was like, oh, yeah, that's

725
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 6: the one. Don't blur out, no nipples, don't blur You

726
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 6: got some pretty titties. You got some pretty titties. Like no,

727
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 6: that's the one right there. That's art is beautiful. It's

728
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 6: just natural, like it's effortless.

729
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 5: Go with that. And so yeah, so went with that.

730
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: That's do. I love the fact that you do all

731
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: the engineering too.

732
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: You're like a woman, then man, I love it.

733
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 5: A woman or a or are they they? It's okay,

734
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 5: I don't know, I have to come up, but.

735
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: I feel you.

736
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 6: Oh, I do have to give a shout out to

737
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 6: my engineer Jada, who when I don't feel like doing it,

738
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 6: she kills it.

739
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, she killed I.

740
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 6: Try to work with a lot of women engineers Jada like, oh,

741
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 6: and I have to give a shout out to, you know,

742
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 6: my engineer Young as well, so when I don't feel

743
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 6: like doing it, and they've been incredible and putting the

744
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 6: stuff together Young and Jada, So shout out to women

745
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 6: engineers all around the world.

746
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: But you also working with a dope female rappers. Got

747
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 4: on the album phenomenal.

748
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 5: That's my sister.

749
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: Why was she like the right place for that song?

750
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 6: She's so talented, you know, she's just getting started. And

751
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 6: I just saw so much like she's her own individual

752
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 6: obviously like she's killing it, but her free spirit and

753
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 6: like the way that she's coming to the industry and

754
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 6: like brought something new. I see a lot of myself

755
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 6: and her and so much so when we you know,

756
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 6: talked and met, like she said that and was so

757
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 6: just like it was so beautiful just to hear her

758
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 6: talk about when she first had got introduced to my work,

759
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 6: and I was like, what, like, man, I that always

760
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 6: makes me feel good. But I always try to tell

761
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 6: artists like, no, you go, do you like? I support you?

762
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 6: I love what you're doing, Like I don't want anything

763
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 6: from you but to see you shine, and if you

764
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 6: need any advice, I'm here, you know, but feel no obligation.

765
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 6: And so me and her just started to become really tight,

766
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 6: and I had her over to the studio and I

767
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 6: played her, you know, a few songs, and I didn't

768
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 6: tell her which song I wanted her to be on.

769
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 6: As soon as she heard Phenomenal, she jumped up and

770
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 6: I was like, that's the one. That's it, that's what

771
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 6: that's what I want. I want you to be on

772
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 6: this song. And yeah, she's such a beautiful and such

773
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 6: a humble spirit, like eager to learn, like she's going

774
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 6: to have a really successful career.

775
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: It's interesting to beat that had a little Kim shut

776
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: on someone interview.

777
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: We're talking about the divide back then between like a

778
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: little Kim or Lauren Hill, right that we couldn't like

779
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: this type of female, the imagery of the situation and

780
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: now one of the great things about female hip hop

781
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 3: right now, we see so many different looks and so

782
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 3: many different artists, like what do you make of that?

783
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,959
Speaker 2: Who else kind of catching?

784
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I love that we can do both.

785
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember that, like a lot of people would

786
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 6: try to put them against each other and make you choose.

787
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 6: And I love love Kim, and I love you know,

788
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 6: Lauren Hill, and I see myself and so much you

789
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 6: know of both of them. I am who I am

790
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 6: now but growing up, like I could recite a lot

791
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 6: of stuff and Lauren back and forth. But anyway, I

792
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 6: think that it's a beautiful thing. And I want to

793
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 6: always support, you know, women even if their freedom. And

794
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 6: I hope that the women who are in hip hop

795
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 6: and say like hip hop is their thing, even if

796
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 6: her freedom doesn't look like.

797
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 5: Your freedom, support it. Support it.

798
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 6: Like women, you are not the enemy of each other.

799
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 6: You're fighting a system that was never created for any

800
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 6: of you. This music industry wasn't created for you. This

801
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 6: patriarchy that we're living in was not created for you.

802
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 5: And when I.

803
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 6: Think about sort of the divisiveness that is going on

804
00:39:54,840 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 6: right you know, my thoughts is just like outside of

805
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 6: rap let's take all that out of it, as as women,

806
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 6: you know, as non binary folks, as minorities in this majority.

807
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 5: These systems were not built for us.

808
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie.

809
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: I'm kind of bummed on this album Age of a

810
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 4: Pleasure because it's like there's no rap standing out moment

811
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 4: like Jango Jane fan boys, you know, right.

812
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 5: Oh that's right, Well listen you have Jangle Jane.

813
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 6: You can, but but don't sleep on float feather.

814
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 5: I'm like, is a feather your baby? I float what?

815
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 5: It's hard to look at my resume and I found

816
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 5: a reason to tell. I mean, I used to let

817
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: niggas get to me. I used to be my own enemy.

818
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 5: Now I don'et have several epiphanies over some breakfast at Tiffany's.

819
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 5: We had to forgive on my frenemies. They are now

820
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 5: who they pretend to be. I had to protect all

821
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 5: my energy. I'm feeling much lighter now. I float load.

822
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 5: Come on, now you.

823
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 2: Got off front.

824
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 5: I was you wanted that.

825
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: You kind of help that with the bars? Are you

826
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: don't want to put too much in it? Right?

827
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

828
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 6: I mean you know I used a different muscle. I

829
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 6: think I think with this with this project and just

830
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 6: art in general. You know, my job is to figure out,

831
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 6: like how can I how fresh can I make things?

832
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 6: Like how can I tap into different sides of me?

833
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 6: I get really yeah, I get really bored with like

834
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 6: doing the same thing, Like if people love something even

835
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 6: about me, like do that little thing, and I'm just like,

836
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 6: nah about to trap me. It's so important that I

837
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 6: keep going and I keep evolving and that I keep

838
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 6: discovering new things about what I can do, who I

839
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 6: can be, what I can say and I can say it.

840
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: Does that make it?

841
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 3: Because you're viewed as an album artist, right, that you

842
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 3: have these four bodies of work that all uniquely different.

843
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but sort of thing like that's why you got

844
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 2: the resume.

845
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 6: Bright Listen, I've worked hard and I'm continuously working, you know.

846
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 6: I mean just thinking about and I say this humbly,

847
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 6: just thinking about how far I've come from just making

848
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 6: albums to then going into making films and writing books.

849
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 6: I mean, within what this twenty twenty one, I released

850
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 6: The Memory Librarian, went to go shoot glass onion and wrote.

851
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 5: The Age of Pleasure.

852
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 6: And to be able to say that I never would

853
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 6: have thought that I would would be able to do that,

854
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 6: and I'm just so happy that I allowed myself to.

855
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 5: Go outside of my.

856
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 6: Own expectations of who I could be, what I could say,

857
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 6: how I could say it, and given the time to

858
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 6: do it. You know, sometimes you catch a wave and

859
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 6: sometimes you don't. Like there are certainly moments, let me

860
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 6: be clear, there have been certainly moments where I didn't

861
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 6: know what the hell I was going to talk about.

862
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 6: I don't have anything to say, and people are looking

863
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 6: at me like, so, when's the next and I'm just like,

864
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 6: I don't got it, you know.

865
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 5: But I'm really proud.

866
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 6: I'm proud of the work that I've done, We've done

867
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 6: as a team, and yeah, I'm very proud of that.

868
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 4: Speaking of waves, man, you wrote a tsunami because the

869
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 4: last time we told you didn't have a diamond song.

870
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 5: But we are young, oh to know it is.

871
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 6: Yes, listen, shout out to fun. I will always say

872
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 6: thank you to those guys. They called me to do

873
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 6: the bridge and sing the chorus with them, and you

874
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 6: know that song is. I can go to the middle

875
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 6: of a bisa and they are playing we are Young,

876
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 6: and you know you can go to some of the

877
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 6: hoodies clubs in the world and they playing We are young,

878
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 6: So that's a beautiful thing to be a part of.

879
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 6: Just music that.

880
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 5: Can walk in any room, you know.

881
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: And speaking of the visa, you about to go on

882
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 4: your own tour soon next month. Yeah, what can we

883
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 4: expect from that?

884
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: Man?

885
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 6: Oh well, listen, I mean right now, I'm you catching

886
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 6: me like I'm still in my head trying to figure out, Okay,

887
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 6: what songs, what songs from the previous albums I'm going

888
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 6: to play. I might need you to help with that.

889
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 6: What songs from the previous album I'm going to play?

890
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 6: What new songs? We're still weaving them in together. You know,

891
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 6: it's very interesting. All the work is talking to each

892
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 6: other though, like with Archaandroid, with Electric Lady, Dirty Computer,

893
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 6: when you come from this sort of dystopian world and

894
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 6: fighting against the androids and and folks fighting against the

895
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 6: totalitarian society.

896
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 5: The Age of Pleasure is the next phase.

897
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 6: And so I've always sort of planned out this moment

898
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 6: in my career. I wouldn't I didn't know how it

899
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 6: was going to sound, though, I didn't know how I

900
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 6: was going to look. But the Age of Pleasure is

901
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 6: all of the people that I fought for on these projects,

902
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 6: realizing their dream and living out their reality, having a

903
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 6: safe space, having a space free from that sort of oppression,

904
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 6: and being amongst each other in the world watching it,

905
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 6: watching it. And so that's the beauty of just like

906
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 6: this moment that we're in. People always ask, well, what happens?

907
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 5: What do they want?

908
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 6: What do they fight? Like if you read the book,

909
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 6: like what do they actually want? And this is the life,

910
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 6: this is the life that we are living out, that

911
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 6: I'm living out for us.

912
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: So live show is going to be a little bit

913
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 2: different this time around.

914
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 5: It's going to be a little different.

915
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 6: But no, but you know, I love live performing like

916
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 6: I love I love being able to see the people

917
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 6: that come, you know, because this is like their church,

918
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 6: the church to kick them out for being who they are.

919
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 6: We created a church for us, right, so when you

920
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 6: come there, like it's a religious experience because people are

921
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 6: just happy to be amongst people that affirm them and

922
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 6: where they feel like they're safe and they could be

923
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 6: free and all those things. And like we're gonna play

924
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 6: the songs, We're gonna give a hell of a show.

925
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 6: Like one thing I'm not gonna do is half ass.

926
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 5: No show. I love performing, I love I love it.

927
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 6: I love it so much, and I just can't wait

928
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 6: to like create something that will only be for Seattle,

929
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 6: that will only be for New York, Like we'll be

930
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 6: in New York at Radio City Music Hall and then

931
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 6: we're doing Brooklyn King's Theater.

932
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah venue.

933
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 5: So I'm excited. I'm ready.

934
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm excited too.

935
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: Are there particular songs that the fans definitely crave because like,

936
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: for me, I love Cold War.

937
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: I gotta see that.

938
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 5: Oh really you want to see Cold War?

939
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

940
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 5: I don't know if that matches in the a you

941
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 5: know what? Okay, all right, that's it.

942
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 4: It's like a fan for the video is just so

943
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 4: stripped down and it's just so emotional and it's just

944
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: a record.

945
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta give shout out.

946
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 6: We just lost her snead o'con and you know when

947
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 6: she did nothing compares to you and her video with

948
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 6: just her face and when you look at Cold War,

949
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 6: I definitely you know, we were inspired by her and

950
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 6: she was such a like a voice, like yeah, great

951
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 6: talent forever. So yeah, just thinking about that, I'm I'm

952
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,959
Speaker 6: so basically I'm saying all this to say I'm trying

953
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 6: to weave in the story into now you know, this

954
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 6: is such a so we'll see, but just know it's

955
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 6: going to be very intentional, thought out and experience unforgettablegettable.

956
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 4: Mentioning Sad, I know you were really affected by the

957
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 4: passing of Tina Turner.

958
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: How did that affect you?

959
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 6: Tina's the blueprint, you know, especially when you think about

960
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 6: live performing.

961
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 5: You know, this is somebody that.

962
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 6: Just really set the standards, set the bar for a

963
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 6: lot of us. And and you know she's also born

964
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 6: in December, sagittaries like myself and I don't know, I

965
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 6: just always felt a connection to her. But her energy

966
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 6: will never be forgotten, you know, never forgotten.

967
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: So she evolved it becoming a free motherfuckery.

968
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 5: Eventually, eventually we we we all, you know, if if

969
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 5: we're around long enough, we got the right people around us,

970
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 5: and we will get braver and braver and braver, you

971
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 5: know as time goes, So eventually we all we'll all

972
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 5: get there.

973
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: I mean, shit, on the float, you kicked off the

974
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 4: album and say I'm not the same, So.

975
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 6: Oh no, I'm not the same nigga. I actually was

976
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 6: gonna cut off that part because the part like no

977
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 6: I'm not the same.

978
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 5: No, I'm not the same.

979
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 6: No, I'm not the where I'm like finding it. But

980
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 6: my uh, you know, producers who were in the room,

981
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 6: they were like, do not e waste that part, Like

982
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 6: they need to see you literally going.

983
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 5: Through your transformation.

984
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 6: And I'm happy we kept it because yeah, it's you know,

985
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 6: my music is always a reflection of where I am.

986
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 6: If I'm on we own tuxedos and androids right now,

987
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 6: we're gonna be on that. We in the age of

988
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 6: like a pleasure. We in the age of pleasure, and

989
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 6: we're on that. And yeah, like just thinking about purpose,

990
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 6: you know, I mean, let me turn this around on y'all.

991
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm talking before we.

992
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 5: Get out of here, where we get out of here.

993
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 6: Let me turn this What are y'all doing for your

994
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 6: for yourself when it comes to pleasure?

995
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 5: What things are bringing you great pleasure? Right now? Give

996
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 5: me at least three for me?

997
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 4: I like doing this, this gives me pleasure. I don't

998
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 4: really take vacations. I don't think I've ever taken a

999
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 4: vacation in my adult life, so.

1000
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 5: Just really like never like gone to Mexico or it's just.

1001
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 4: That like I have fomo. You know, I feel like

1002
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 4: if I do something, something's gonna happen. I'm going to

1003
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 4: miss it. So I always like to be on standby,

1004
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 4: and just I like to work, you know, Sean said, vacation.

1005
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: I feel better at work.

1006
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, all right, I'll received that. I don't

1007
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 6: agree with it. I believe in balance and all things trying,

1008
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 6: but I get it.

1009
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 5: You'll get there, You'll get there.

1010
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: He's still single.

1011
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 6: But also, oh cute, Oh y'all can take a cute

1012
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 6: little vacation together.

1013
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna do that next year.

1014
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 5: Travel travel with her. That could be fun.

1015
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that. That gives me pleasure me around her.

1016
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: She's she's great.

1017
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 5: Well that's good. I affirm that for you.

1018
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 2: Thank you that.

1019
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 5: Yes? What what what is?

1020
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 2: Listen?

1021
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 5: I get that too.

1022
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, my lovely wife, Daniel, I love Daniel,

1023
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: is amazing. I have a beautiful dog too, little car

1024
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: area that's like our child's two years old.

1025
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: Two years old.

1026
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: I think, just trying to go back to traveling more.

1027
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: Feel like we travel a lot before the pandemic. Yeah,

1028
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: and since the pandemic, haven't really found that groove again.

1029
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: The only time I've kind of traveled now is do

1030
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 3: work like be that for work. So just trying to

1031
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 3: find that balance of like, you know, enjoy especially now

1032
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 3: because we're not structured to have to work at offices

1033
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 3: the same way. Just ever change things. You can work

1034
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 3: from anywhere. You might as well take the time to

1035
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: experience and go to places. You just tell me you

1036
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: came up with great vacation, So yeah, going different places

1037
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 3: and put different countries. Like, I'm not as well traveled

1038
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: as I think I should be a fifty two year

1039
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: old man who's sure achieved so much. I still haven't

1040
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: been too many places that I probably still want to

1041
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 3: go to before.

1042
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it all goes down.

1043
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 6: It's not too late, not too late, it's not too

1044
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 6: like it's interesting thinking about travel. Like growing up, I

1045
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 6: never took vacations my parents. They couldn't afford it. At

1046
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 6: work and work and work and work and working. As

1047
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 6: soon as I got of age to work, I was working.

1048
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 6: And so I think now I'm making up for that.

1049
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 6: I'm just like, okay, let me puol a little money aside,

1050
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 6: just go and travel and it not be because I

1051
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 6: have to tour there, which has been amazing to be

1052
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 6: able to go on tours overseas and stuff, but just like, no,

1053
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 6: I'm taking this time. And you know, I have this

1054
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 6: one sort of earth experience as I know it. And

1055
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 6: as an artist, my job is to record what I

1056
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 6: am seeing like I need. I need to be inspired,

1057
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 6: like people don't realize, like artists need to.

1058
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 5: Just do nothing.

1059
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I need to live in order to have something

1060
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 6: to say. And that's been like one of the biggest

1061
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 6: things for me is this phrase that I live by

1062
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 6: and I want to share with y'all is hurry up and.

1063
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 2: Live live and get that time too.

1064
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 6: All right, well too, more pleasure in all of y'all listen,

1065
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 6: because we in the age of pleasure and I want

1066
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 6: that for us so much.

1067
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 5: As much as we work.

1068
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 6: I know you already told me how you felt about vacations,

1069
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 6: but it's much as we work. May we find the balance.

1070
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 6: And I'll do this toast with y'all. Yes, there we go,

1071
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 6: all right, to the lives.

1072
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 5: We lead, say, okay, we're not gonna do this toast

1073
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 5: to the lives we leave, to lives we lead, to

1074
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 5: the dreams we chase, the dreams we chase to the

1075
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 5: moments that we may.

1076
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 6: The moments that we make and to the fucked up ship.

1077
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 6: We can't erase the ship and.

1078
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 4: Can't erase Yeah cheers, mm hmm.

1079
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 5: We drinking water but.

1080
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: Dream Yeah, thank you man.

1081
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 5: Thank y'all so much for having me.

1082
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 6: Always appreciate y'all support, like I really really appreciate it,

1083
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 6: and thanks.

1084
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 2: For being Yes, we need it.

1085
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 5: We need y'all.

1086
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: Podcasts.

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00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, rap rador Is The Interval Presents original production from

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00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 4: hyper House, produced by Laura Wasser, Hosts and producers Elliott

1089
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 4: Wilson and Brian B.

1090
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: Dot Miller from Interval Presents executive producers Alan Coy and

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00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: Jake Kleinberg, Executive producer Paul Rosenberg, editing his sound design

1092
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: by Dylan Alexander Freeman, Recording engineer Jeremy Ogletree.

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Speaker 4: Special thanks to Charlotte Jenkins, Tammy Kim, and Jasmine Sanchez,

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