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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the program big Thursday night edition

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Speaker 1: of Texans All Access. As we have John McLean coming

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Speaker 1: up in the next segment, John Harris and I though,

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Speaker 1: we had a chance to visit with the quarterbacks coach

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Speaker 1: for your Texans, a guy who played at Humble High School,

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Speaker 1: Texas A and M. He's been around the NFL and

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Speaker 1: now he's the QB coach here in Houston. Gerard Johnson.

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Speaker 1: All right, coach, let's talk a little bit about the Bears.

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Speaker 1: But first wrap up week one for us, good quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: You've seen it all camp really and into week one

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Speaker 1: that has to be gratifying to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's always good to come out with

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Speaker 2: the win, especially week one. I mean for us, I

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Speaker 2: mean for most teams in the NFL, it's the first

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Speaker 2: time that that group is together, you know, and so

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Speaker 2: say with us, we have a lot of guys coming back.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he has a new addition, and so really

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Speaker 2: you don't really know what it's going to be like

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Speaker 2: until you get out there and battle together, you know.

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Speaker 2: So for us to come out with the win was huge,

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Speaker 2: But there's definitely a lot to clean up. Definitely a

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Speaker 2: lot of things that we can do better. You know,

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Speaker 2: I thought CJ played well, We played well enough for

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Speaker 2: the win, but at the same time, we know there's

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Speaker 2: things we can do to kind of make us a

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Speaker 2: little more efficient so we can keep pushing along.

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Speaker 3: Coach.

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Speaker 4: Before the game, I was talking to Matt a little bit,

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Speaker 4: Matt Burke, and he felt pretty confident about the plan

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Speaker 4: they had, But then he said something that kind of

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Speaker 4: resonated with me. We've talked about this a little bit

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Speaker 4: going into week one, and that is it's kind of

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Speaker 4: a mystery, you know, you kind of get that Scooby

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Speaker 4: Doo mystery machine, like you might see something a little different.

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Speaker 4: Even though we see these guys a lot, it might

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Speaker 4: see a little bit different. How long did it take

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Speaker 4: in week one? How long does it usually take kind

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Speaker 4: of week one to go Okay, they're doing this. They

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Speaker 4: did this in week eighteen, but now they're looking at

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Speaker 4: like this. I would imagine as part of the thrilling

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Speaker 4: job of being a coach to kind of figure that out.

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Speaker 4: But how long does that kind of take as you're

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Speaker 4: on the sidelines trying to figure that all?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I will say at least.

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Speaker 2: By halftime we can all sit down and have conversations

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Speaker 2: about what we're seeing and at least at the very

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Speaker 2: least you see like how they're trying to attack us,

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Speaker 2: we can try to anticipate what type of game?

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Speaker 3: Is this going to be a man game? Is it

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Speaker 3: a zone game?

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Speaker 2: You know, they trying to pressure us, Like what exactly

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Speaker 2: do like big picture we think they're trying to do.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that's why training camp are so important.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I think you're only

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Speaker 2: as good as your core plays, the things that you

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Speaker 2: do and you know in and out where it's a

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Speaker 2: base base defense for us and offense. Just the core

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Speaker 2: concepts of things we do. That's what you lean on

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Speaker 2: when times get tough. So going into week one, you

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Speaker 2: want to put a lot of things out there that

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Speaker 2: you know, you have confidence that if we see anything

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Speaker 2: that that you know, anything that may surprise us, we

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Speaker 2: know that we can fall back on our training. This

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Speaker 2: is the play that we just execute really well. I

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Speaker 2: think our guys did a good job of that.

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Speaker 1: We see practice during training camp and it's ones versus ones.

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Speaker 1: It's really healthy competition. You get a lot of simulations

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Speaker 1: of oh that pocket is collapsing, got to get.

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Speaker 3: The ball out.

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Speaker 1: How do you work on that in the regular season

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Speaker 1: during the week, how do you simulate those things so

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Speaker 1: you can continue to be good at it?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just you.

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Speaker 2: You get good looks from your scout team, and I

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Speaker 2: think Demico really demands that our guys practice hard or

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Speaker 2: there's our scout players. We have a couple periods a

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Speaker 2: but making sure we're still even we're going to scouts team,

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Speaker 2: we're giving good looks. But you just try to be

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Speaker 2: intentional in everything that you do. And you just still

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Speaker 2: trying to find ways for me, whether it's an individual period,

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks uncomfortable so we can kind of manage and function

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Speaker 2: in an uncomfortable setting because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: when when the pockets burning down, it's uncomfortable and we

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Speaker 4: Coach, I want to ask you about both your quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: because it felt like watching your training camp that we

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Speaker 4: saw a lot of growth in Davis Mills as much

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Speaker 4: as we saw growth in CJ.

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Speaker 3: Strouts.

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you about the growth of both guys.

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Speaker 4: What have you seen in your quarterbacks and CJ and

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Speaker 4: Davis from gear one a.

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Speaker 3: Year or two for CJ, but year three to year

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Speaker 3: four for Davis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think for CJ, it just starts with,

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Speaker 2: you know, just the challenge of from a leadership standpoint

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Speaker 2: just like be a fixer out there, Like what can

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Speaker 3: How can you help you know, some.

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Speaker 2: Of our newer players with the scheme, what can we

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Speaker 2: do from a cadence standpoint? We can use more cadences

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Speaker 2: now so the D line didn't get a jump on us.

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Speaker 2: You know, we can do different things in motions, We

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Speaker 2: can add more shifts, just kind of putting more on

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Speaker 2: him from an operational standpoint to find ways to gain

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Speaker 2: that extra edge, all while him still getting you know,

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Speaker 2: and just playing at a high level like he did

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Speaker 2: last year. And you know, I think as a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: you're constantly chasing that perfect game.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's really hard to do. It's a hard

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Speaker 2: And I got a lot of respect for both of

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Speaker 2: they've improved. And then Davis, I was just it was

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Speaker 2: cool to see Davis. I mean, like I said, I

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Speaker 2: think Davis has started talent in the NFL. I'll be

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Speaker 2: the first to say that I'm a champion of Davis,

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Speaker 2: and I think he's a really good player.

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Speaker 3: He's a great person.

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Speaker 2: He works really hard, and I think that he's put

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Speaker 2: in a lot of work for him to his reaction time,

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Speaker 2: his ball placement, his accuracy, his base, his footwork, all

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Speaker 2: the different things that allows his ability to come out.

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Speaker 2: And that's my biggest thing for him is you know,

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Speaker 2: I think he's an extremely talented quarterback, one of the

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Speaker 2: efficiency and what can we do to where that.

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Speaker 3: Talent can be on display over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: Because the league isn't about who's good, is who's good

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Speaker 2: the most right? Who can we call tim plays? Can

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Speaker 2: we on point nine out of ten times, if not

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Speaker 2: ten out of ten times. And it's a lot of

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Speaker 2: hard work that goes into that. And to his credit

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Speaker 2: and CJ's credit, they put a lot of hard work

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Speaker 3: Gerard Johnson with us.

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Speaker 1: All Right, So if you're gonna be a good quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you have to take advantage of all the opportunities to

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Speaker 1: get better, and sometimes you have to create them for yourself. Right,

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Speaker 1: Like a basketball player can shoot jumpers in the gym.

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Speaker 1: As a quarterback, what can you do? What should you

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Speaker 1: do away from the building, off season, whatever the case

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Speaker 1: may be, to continually improve.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I think what I love is man.

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Speaker 2: Our guys love football, you know, so even in their

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Speaker 2: try to get themselves better, whether it's their body, their diet,

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Speaker 2: getting the guys to get or to throw. I know,

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Speaker 2: both of them go, you know, like CJ. Gosa to

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Speaker 2: his guys in California who just really fine tuned by

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Speaker 3: And those guys at three d QB do a really

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Speaker 2: And then I just try to keep challenging them to

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Speaker 2: Like we're constantly a reactive state at quarterback, and so

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Speaker 2: I try to add a reactionary element to as many

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Speaker 2: because that's to me, that's the best you can do.

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Speaker 2: To try to simulate a game and try to put

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Speaker 2: see if they can find their way out of it

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Speaker 2: in a drill setting to try to, you know, prepare

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Speaker 4: You brought up something, Mark just brought it up. You

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Speaker 4: brought it up, the three QB. The private quarterback coaches tutors.

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Speaker 4: And there are some that are like no, no, no, your

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Speaker 4: the mechanics. How do you kind of look at that

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Speaker 4: that balance between you being the quarterback coach here with

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Speaker 4: you with Houston Texas, but you got your private quarterback

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Speaker 4: guys that are working with your quarterbacks throughout the offseason

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Speaker 4: of you kind of manage it, how do you kind

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Speaker 4: of see that relationship.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that you know, it's all about trust

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Speaker 2: But I do think that you know, one, I lived

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Speaker 2: in that world right trying the quarterback guru space for

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Speaker 2: lack of a better term, for a while, and so I

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Speaker 2: have a respect for what they do. I do think

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Speaker 2: also me being a high school coach and my parents,

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Speaker 2: for coaching, and it's not mutually excluded, like we're doing

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Speaker 2: two different things. But I think if there's a healthy

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Speaker 2: to get their quarterback to throw the ball better. And

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Speaker 2: then for us as coaches is what can we do

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Speaker 2: to get our team better? And that fits our scheme

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Speaker 2: because I think that's the that's the defining defining factors,

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Speaker 2: the combination of technique versus scheme.

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Speaker 3: Does this technique match what we're asking you to do

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Speaker 3: from a play standpoint. I do think we're professionals.

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Speaker 2: It's easier because we just tell the quarterbacks look like

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Speaker 2: you guys are in control, right, You're paying someone to

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Speaker 2: help to train you. So just go there with it,

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Speaker 2: awareness stuff, what we're asking to do from a technique standpoint,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, go get the training.

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Speaker 3: Because we don't have the time here to sit and just.

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Speaker 2: Work on purely getting the ball to spend two more

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Speaker 2: revolutions tighter. That's just not what we do as position coaches.

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Speaker 2: So I do think there's a place forward. Those guys

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Speaker 2: really good job, But I think it's up to the

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Speaker 2: here's what I'm willing to fix, here's the non negotiable.

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Speaker 2: And but at the same time I talk to those guys,

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Speaker 3: To it, all right.

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Speaker 1: George had your number retired by the whole high school. Congratulations?

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Speaker 3: Oh. I think he has a hat that says future

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Speaker 1: No, he doesn't, but I feel like he should, because

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Speaker 1: We didn't talk to him about that, but I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question. My son and I Jack.

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Speaker 4: We were getting caught up on thirty Rock and one

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Speaker 1: But that's just sounds so so not right, so weird us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're gonna be play there Big ten schedule.

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Speaker 4: Then it was the PAC twelve, but then it dissolved

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Speaker 4: It's crazy to do that. Here's what they're This is

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Speaker 3: The Pac twelve is not going to be a power conference.

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Speaker 4: Keep in mind that they the Football Playoff takes the

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Speaker 4: and I can watch that game, and I think that

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Speaker 4: was on Fox. But I can go back and watch

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Speaker 4: the games in the ICPN Plus. But that's what you're

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Speaker 4: gonna have to do. So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: The whole realignment thing is just it's and the.

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Speaker 1: TV landscape is crazy because ESPN itself, wait what service?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 1: So now they have Plus. They used have ESPN three,

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Speaker 1: now it's Plus. The venue thing got derailed, but they're

447
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Speaker 1: still gonna come out with another one. Like I can't

448
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Speaker 1: keep track of it all. And I'm in this business

449
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Speaker 1: in a big way and it's still difficult to keep

450
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Speaker 1: track of it. Is nuts. They're making it very difficult

451
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Speaker 1: on the consumer. Now, speaking of TV, the number one

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Speaker 1: television show in the country is Sunday Night Football. The

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Speaker 1: Texans are, of course part of it, facing the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 1: How big this is a rhetorical question, but I want

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Speaker 1: you to expand on this.

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Speaker 3: How big is this game? I think for the fans, this.

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Speaker 1: Is a humongous game primetime first time in a long time. Look,

458
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Speaker 1: we had primetime in twenty two, in primetime in twenty one,

459
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Speaker 1: but it's not the same. This is Sunday night football,

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Speaker 1: this is Carrie Underwood, this is all of it. And

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Speaker 1: there's just something very special about that. And even though

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Speaker 1: the Bears are not they're not the eighty five Bears,

463
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Speaker 1: they're not Jay Cutler's Bears.

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Speaker 3: They're not a great football team, but they're the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 1: They're historic, they're one of the oldest teams in the league,

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Speaker 1: along with the Packers, and they're from the number three

467
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Speaker 1: market in the country. All of that adds up to special.

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Speaker 1: They're in your building.

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Speaker 4: So to that end, you and I would have this conversation,

470
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Speaker 4: well a few years ago, Oh man, how much Chicago

471
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Speaker 4: Bears blue are we going to see in the crowd?

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Speaker 4: How much Chicago Bears orange are we going to see

473
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Speaker 4: in the crowd? I think we'll see some Sunday Night,

474
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Speaker 4: but I got a feeling that we're not going to

475
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Speaker 4: see too much of it. But I also like this

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Speaker 4: from a Jersey game. We're going liberty white. They're going

477
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Speaker 4: full on orange. They're wearing all orange.

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Speaker 3: That's great, get them out of their tradition. Pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: So from that standpoint, but to your point.

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Speaker 1: Man, that is one of the most badass uniforms in

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Speaker 1: the league, except when they wear orange.

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Speaker 3: So go ahead wear orange. I've been thinking about this

483
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Speaker 3: since the schedule came out. I'll never forget you called me.

484
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Speaker 3: You called me. I was in ChB. It was with

485
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Speaker 3: my son Jack and we're rolling through GB and I.

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Speaker 4: See you call on the day they were supposed to

487
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Speaker 4: get the schedule, and You're like, are you sitting down?

488
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Speaker 4: And I'm like no, I'm in HB and walking around

489
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Speaker 4: and so I'm literally an HB with the phone up

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Speaker 4: to my ear and you're you're kind of outlaying some

491
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Speaker 4: of the things that you know, and you said week

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Speaker 4: two Sunday night Bears, and I that was the one

493
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Speaker 4: that stood out to me more than anything, because I'm like,

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Speaker 4: week two after Colts.

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Speaker 3: On the road.

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Speaker 4: Man, If we beat the Colts, oh man, this place

497
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Speaker 4: is gonna rock. So for months I've been looking forward

498
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Speaker 4: to this, and then we beat the Colts like okay,

499
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Speaker 4: and then we beat the Colts in a way that

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Speaker 4: it didn't anticipate us running the ball the way that

501
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Speaker 4: we did and really kind of being the big bully

502
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Speaker 4: on the block, like man wanted to be that bully

503
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Speaker 4: on the block for a long time. Like when we

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Speaker 4: walk in a stadium, the other team is like, oh boy,

505
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Speaker 4: we better hitch up our breches because here they come.

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Speaker 4: It's the Houston Texans, And I think, I hope that's

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Speaker 4: the case on Sunday night, Like we walk in that

508
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Speaker 4: building and there's just this collective we are the badasses,

509
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Speaker 4: not them, and we take it to them. And then

510
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Speaker 4: just letting his crowd eat, just letting them explode on

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Speaker 4: every big play that happens, getting loud on third down,

512
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Speaker 4: seeing Caleb with his hands up against his ears. That

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Speaker 4: these rookie quarterbacks now it's changing college, but I watched

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Speaker 4: it all throughout college. I'm watching these quarterbacks that have

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Speaker 4: never dealt with this coach comsystem and their hands are

516
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Speaker 4: by their ears and they just look like they're so miserable.

517
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Speaker 4: That's the way it needs to be for Kayleb Williams.

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Speaker 4: Make it miserable for him to hear anything from Shane Waldron.

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Speaker 1: How will the Texans respond to all this? We'll discuss

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Speaker 1: next with the General. John mcclan joins us on Texans Radio.

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Speaker 1: It's Texans All Access. Mark Vandermer, John Harris with you

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Speaker 1: joining us now the General, John McLain, John Sunday Night Football,

523
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Speaker 1: the biggest show on television.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing like it. Are you ready?

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Speaker 5: I think the Texans are ready? And that's the key.

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Speaker 6: And I've gone back and watched the Bears and the

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Speaker 6: Titans and how will Levis just gave that game to

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Speaker 6: Chicago with three turnovers in the fourth quarter, including one

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Speaker 6: of the maybe the dumbest decision I've ever seen on

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Speaker 6: an interception. And you know, NBC loves it because they

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Speaker 6: can say this game features the unbeaten Bears versus.

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Speaker 5: The unbeaten Texans.

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Speaker 6: Just About everybody that I have seen on Digson spread

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Speaker 6: is six. Everybody is taking the Texans about seven or more.

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Speaker 3: M That's not good. I hate that, Marvi, I absolutely

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Speaker 3: hate that. General.

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Speaker 4: I don't like to see unanimous across the board for

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Speaker 4: the Texans for a win by by any means.

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Speaker 3: But General, we'll start. We'll start here.

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Speaker 4: We talked a little bit Monday about this, but we

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Speaker 4: don't think Joe Mixon is gonna end up with thirty

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Speaker 4: carries again. However, the run game was too good to

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Speaker 4: get away from. How do you think the run game

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Speaker 4: split will go amongst the running backs and what do

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Speaker 4: you expect to see kind of from the run game

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Speaker 4: On Sunday night against the Bears.

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Speaker 6: When Damian Bears got his three carries, Bobby Sloy did

548
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Speaker 6: something he didn't do last year. He called it straight

549
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Speaker 6: ahead runs. He didn't require him to do his own scheme,

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Speaker 6: which is good because Damien got to get it the

551
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Speaker 6: ball go straight ahead. They had some holes and you

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Speaker 6: didn't know Matt Eberflus is a really good defensive coach,

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Speaker 6: and so they had to go back to the drawing board.

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Speaker 6: You know, they've been looking at this game plan since

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Speaker 6: the offseason, and I'm sure it was all about CJ.

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Speaker 6: Stroud in the passing game as it should have been.

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Speaker 6: And then the way the offensive line blocked for the

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Speaker 6: run and the tight ends moving Cage Stover to full

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Speaker 6: back for fifteen snaps a fullback was a genius. And

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Speaker 6: so the Bears will be all geared up to stop

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Speaker 6: the run. Whether they can do it remains to be seen,

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Speaker 6: but that just opened up the passing game. And I'm

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Speaker 6: sure NBC would love to see the Texans throw the

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Speaker 6: ball because CJ's Stroud is a star. They want to

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Speaker 6: see the great receivers they have, and because if you

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Speaker 6: run it all the time, as you guys know, most

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Speaker 6: of the time, the game is going to be close.

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Speaker 6: That game against Colts was close and shouldn't have been.

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Speaker 6: You know, giving up those three long pass plays at

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Speaker 6: average fifty something yards was ridiculous. And safety's got to

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Speaker 6: play better fighting for the ball at coverage, and I'm

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Speaker 6: pretty sure they're not going to be doing that again.

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Speaker 6: But after watching Caleb Williams and I was watching Mark

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Speaker 6: Sanchez and Greg Cosell break down the Bears offense and

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Speaker 6: specifically Caleb Williams, and neither was complimentary of Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's gonna make mistakes, but they talked about his eyes

577
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Speaker 6: were never down the field, his head was always running arounds,

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Speaker 6: almost like he didn't want to be in the pocket.

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Speaker 6: And I would guess I would think there's a good

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Speaker 6: chance that will Anderson Jr. And Daniel Hunter are not

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Speaker 6: gonna get shut out on sacks a second consecutive game,

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Speaker 6: because you know Williams.

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Speaker 5: Is going to be on the move and vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me ask both of you this, and

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Speaker 1: I've got a back part of this question as well

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Speaker 1: a follow up. But did NBC put this game on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football because of CJ. Stroud's success last year?

588
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Speaker 1: Not for the texans sake, but because they feel like, hey,

589
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Speaker 1: Stroud was successful as a rookie. Caleb Williams can be too.

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Speaker 1: Is that a big reason why they put this game

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Speaker 1: on the schedule.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely? And I think it was. And I talk to

593
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Speaker 6: you guys I talked to on every show I did

594
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Speaker 6: weekly about it was so unfair for people to pick

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Speaker 6: the Bears to go to the playoffs with a rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 6: You know, what Stroud did is unusual. You know, there

597
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Speaker 6: have been some quarterbacks that played great as rookie, Russell Wilson,

598
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Speaker 6: Andrew Luck, Dak Prescott, but that's rare. I think all

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Speaker 6: the rookies that have played so I think that Stroud's

600
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Speaker 6: performance last year and the Texans performance in general, lifted

601
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Speaker 6: the bar for rooky quarterbacks. That was unfair and Caleb

602
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Speaker 6: Williams look lost. Now they got to be able to

603
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Speaker 6: run the ball better. The Titans totally shut that offense

604
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Speaker 6: down if will Lews just didn't give trapped the game

605
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Speaker 6: for him in the fourth quarter. But I think they're

606
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Speaker 6: gonna have big time trouble against Texas defense if I'm

607
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Speaker 6: in Caleb Williams, and you know, NBC would love this

608
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Speaker 6: if Caleb Williams comes out on the first series, doesn't

609
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Speaker 6: play fake, goes deep seeing if they can have the

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Speaker 6: same results as Anthony Richardson did, even though he can't

611
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Speaker 6: throw the ball as far as Anthony richards But I

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Speaker 6: think early in the season this is a great young

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Speaker 6: quarterback matchup. Later in the season, I don't think you'd

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Speaker 6: walk Caleb Williams in there because by then people could realize, oh,

615
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Speaker 6: he's a rookies playing like most rookies.

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Speaker 4: So to your question mark, I was listening in fact

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Speaker 4: our buddy Sockapaco Silom, reporter for the Buffalo Bills WGR.

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Speaker 3: You can hear him there during mid days.

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Speaker 4: He sent me a clipp's of, Hey, I think you

620
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Speaker 4: might like listening to this, and it was about a

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Speaker 4: two minute clip. They had Mike North, Oh, yeah, who

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Speaker 4: you know very well, and it was a two minute

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Speaker 4: clip talking about they were asking him about the Digs

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Speaker 4: Bills Texans kind of, you know, did that game need

625
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Speaker 4: to be in primetime because of all the storylines that

626
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Speaker 4: are there and all that kind of stuff, And so

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Speaker 4: Mike kind of took it in a Texas direction. And

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Speaker 4: one of the things that I heard in that interview

629
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Speaker 4: that stood out to me was, and this happens I

630
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Speaker 4: think for a lot of different things.

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Speaker 3: It was like when you're.

632
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Speaker 4: Wrong about something, like I was wrong about Dwayne Brown,

633
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Speaker 4: and so you kind of almost go the absolute opposite

634
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Speaker 4: way and you become this big fan like I was.

635
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Speaker 4: I was down on Dwayne Brown and then I was like, Okay,

636
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Speaker 4: I was really wrong. Then you become this big fan

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Speaker 4: of Dwayne Brown.

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Speaker 3: Right.

639
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Speaker 4: They knew they were wrong about the Texans last year,

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Speaker 4: the schedule makers, Mike North, Blake Jones.

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Speaker 3: Et cetera.

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Speaker 4: So I felt like listening to that, I was like, Okay,

643
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Speaker 4: they're gonna give us a pretty good allotment at primetime games,

644
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 4: like they there was some fomo about them not having

645
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Speaker 4: the Texans in prime time. So I wasn't too surprised

646
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Speaker 4: that we got this game with the Bears being early

647
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Speaker 4: in week two.

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Speaker 3: I was maybe a little surprised, but I think there.

649
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Speaker 4: Was some fomo from the schedule people last year that

650
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Speaker 4: they were like, man, we missed out.

651
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Speaker 3: We could have had CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 4: Yes they got us in the Saturday night game on primetime,

653
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Speaker 4: but they're like, Okay, we missed out. So when I

654
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Speaker 4: heard that that interview, I was like, all right, we're

655
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Speaker 4: getting some primetime games and we may get them, you know,

656
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 4: get them early against the Chicago Bears.

657
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: General Monday morning, are we talking about what were they

658
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: thinking putting this game on the schedule or is it

659
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: a closer game than many expect, because hey it's the NFL.

660
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: It's week to week. Texans looked great on offense last week.

661
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: You know they could even look better on defense. Look

662
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: pretty good against the run, of course the deep ball.

663
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: But what do you think I.

664
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 5: Think the Texans are going to blow them out.

665
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 6: There's no reason to pick the Bears after that offensive

666
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 6: showing they couldn't run the ball, they couldn't basketball. The

667
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 6: only way they were gonna win that game is turnovers.

668
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 6: They had John Toanoen's who turned a block hunt for

669
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 6: a touchdown. Then they had that pick six that Will

670
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 6: Levis gift trap for him. Titans couldn't score in the

671
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 6: fourth quarter because they kept turning the ball over. The

672
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 6: Texans don't turn it over. That's one of the best

673
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 6: things about CJ. Stroud is he just doesn't turn it over.

674
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 6: I thought it's very interesting. I've been listening to all

675
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 6: these doomsday predictions that if you start zero and two,

676
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 6: there's only eleven percent gence you're going to make the playoffs.

677
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 5: And I don't hear anybody.

678
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 6: Say, oh, well, the Texans started oh to last year

679
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 6: won the division, won a playoff game. Twenty eighteen, he

680
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 6: started oh two won a division in a playoff game.

681
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 5: So it's not impossible.

682
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 6: Even though the statistics say, yeah, it's it's it's illogical

683
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 6: to expect it.

684
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 5: And I went back in a column that.

685
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 6: I have on Houston Texans dot com today, last time

686
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 6: Texas started two and oh it was two thousand and sixteen.

687
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: And.

688
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 6: So I think they're gonna win this game. Anly one

689
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 6: thing this team has. You know, when Bill O'Brien was there,

690
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 6: nobody said Bill was a great coach. People think Demiko

691
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 6: is a great coach. He's gonna be You're going to

692
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 6: prove that he's a great coach, he's got a great staff,

693
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 6: and he's gonna lose Bobby Slowek after the season to

694
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 6: Rod Johnson can step up and replace him. They've got

695
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 6: Demiko's got a really good coaching staff, and we all

696
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 6: know how that's important. And not only that, he's got

697
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 6: the quarterback. He's got a good running back with a

698
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 6: lot to prove. I can't wait for the Buffalo game.

699
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 6: I don't know how that didn't end up in primetime.

700
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 6: I'm guessing there was a lot of fighting over it,

701
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 6: because you don't just take any game you want put

702
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 6: it on primetime. Can't wait for that one, and so

703
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 6: this one, I think that it could be lopsided. I

704
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 6: think it could be ugly, and I think the people

705
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 6: at NBC could be going, oh my god, what did

706
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 6: we tell you putting the Bears on. They bought into

707
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 6: the hype about Chicago and Caleb Williams.

708
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask both of you this, because I

709
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: feel pretty confident about this game too. And sometimes when

710
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: I feel over confident about a game, like last year

711
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 4: Week two against the Colts, Oh boy, I felt really confident.

712
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: Oh I felt really really confident going in and then

713
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: bang bang, it's fourteen nothing. So I'll ask you both,

714
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 4: what is the formula for the Texans to lose this game?

715
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 7: Like?

716
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: What should we be worried about heading into the game. Look,

717
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: I'm a Houston football fan. I've been a Houston football

718
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 4: fan for a long time, so there is still that

719
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: part of me that always is kind of like, all right,

720
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: we can't get too confident with anything. So what is

721
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 4: the formula for the Bears to win this game?

722
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 3: General?

723
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 6: You go first, block part returned for a touchdown or

724
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 6: a block part to set up a.

725
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 5: Short touchdown run.

726
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Frank Ross probably well if he had Harry,

727
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 6: he'd been pulling it all out, and I think this

728
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 6: it would because Stroud dead.

729
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had an interception of the day called back

730
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: and a tip ball. That's another thing.

731
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 6: He didn't have a lot of tip balls over the

732
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 6: middle at Rick Kochet into the hands of safeties or corners.

733
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 6: I think the only way it would happen is if

734
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 6: like defensive back slips and falls and somebody gets away

735
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 6: for a touchdown or turnovers or kick returns for touchdowns.

736
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 5: It's not going to.

737
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 6: Be the Bears lining up and beating the Texans on

738
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 6: both sides.

739
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 5: Of the balls. It's not going to happen.

740
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time the Texans went into

741
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: a primetime game and we were talking with this kind

742
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: of tone.

743
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: I can't remember.

744
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: I think actually it was twenty eleven going to Indianapolis

745
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: Thursday night football, second to last week of the season,

746
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: and they lost that game.

747
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: Was that Orlowski?

748
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: That was Orlowski Orlosky quarterback to the Colts to a

749
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: win that night, And it was just one of those

750
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: games where just nothing worked. And I think, Johnny, to

751
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: answer your question, it is something similar to what the

752
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: General said. You have a couple of turnovers, there's some sloppiness,

753
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: and it's the old Spencer Tillman. How do you run

754
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: with a full cup of success or don't drink the

755
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: rap poison or human nature. You're playing a team that

756
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: you quote should beat, But it's the NFL, and weird

757
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: things happen every single week.

758
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 3: I I'm sure that so.

759
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: Many survivor pools ended last week because people took the

760
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: Bengals over the Patriots, thinking no shot New England at

761
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: Cincinnati to open the season in Burrows allegedly healthy, There's

762
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: no way you're gonna lose that game, all right, general, that.

763
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 6: Was stupid, but because the Bengals are terrible starters. They

764
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 6: have been in since Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow got there,

765
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 6: So of course we thought they were gonna win. But

766
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 6: to say no way when they're such bad starters, Yeah,

767
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 6: that was because I think more about the Bengals playing

768
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 6: really bad, not having receivers at one hundred percent or

769
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 6: two Higgins at all, and I don't seem to make it,

770
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 6: and his staff, letting his team, letting this team have

771
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 6: have downers. Now they may turn the ball over, everybody

772
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 6: does at some point. They're not gonna come out flat.

773
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 6: You know, the crowd is gonna be like the Cleveland

774
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 6: playoff game. It's gonna be wild. It's gonna be crazy,

775
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 6: and you just hope everybody would get in their seat

776
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 6: when they's supposed to.

777
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 5: And uh, I can't wait to see it. It's exciting.

778
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 6: For the longest time, I thought we were never going

779
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 6: to have another primetime game in Houston because I never

780
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 6: thought we were gonna get the franchise, and the first

781
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 6: one they had they won. And now they're back in

782
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: primetime and I think people are just gonna I think

783
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 6: it's gonna get a really good audience because people want

784
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 6: to see Strout and so I think it's going to

785
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 6: have a great audience, and if it's close, it'll be

786
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 6: better for TV. But I don't think it's gonna be close.

787
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: Well, general, this is a weird week of the AFC

788
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: South because I really enjoy watching the Cleveland Browns and

789
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: the New York Jets lose football game. But the Browns

790
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: are playing the Jaguars and the Jets are playing the Titans,

791
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: So I guess I have to root for the opponents

792
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: in this situation. But let's start with the Jets at

793
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: Tennessee with Aaron Rodgers. Short week, a lot of travel.

794
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: You traveled to the West Coast, you got back Tuesday morning,

795
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: you got to get out of plane Saturday. Go to Nashville,

796
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: and they're desperate for a win after their opening day

797
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: debacle at Chicago where they blew the lead. What do

798
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: you think of the Titans hosting New York.

799
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 6: I think the Titans defense is good enough to keep

800
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 6: them in it. But if Will Levis plays anywhere close

801
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 6: to the will he played in that first game, it

802
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 6: could get ugly. And I think Aaron Rodgers for not

803
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 6: playing As long as he had not played, I thought

804
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 6: he was fine. The problem is that great quote unquote

805
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 6: Jets defense couldn't stop the run. But I think the

806
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 6: Jets were winning. And as far as the Jaguars and

807
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 6: the Browns, I want to see Watson lose. And so

808
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 6: you shouldn't fear of the Jaguars. Beat them twice. You know,

809
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 6: you beat them twice, you don't have to worry about them.

810
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 6: So I'm open that the Jaguars beat the Browns. The

811
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 6: brown start oh too. And I guess Watson couldn't say, Hey,

812
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 6: twenty eighteen, I did this. I had a good friend

813
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 6: of mine who covered the Browns for thirty five years,

814
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 6: say he's forgotten how to play.

815
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 5: And so I went back.

816
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 6: In Washington and is does Watson does not bear any

817
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 6: resemblance to the quarterback who was here in twenty twenty.

818
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 6: Now it's been a while since he's played. Maybe he'll

819
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 6: play better, but he got boot at home. Now, he's

820
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 6: got more legal issues, and it won't be long before

821
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 6: they start chanting we want Jamis.

822
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 5: If they blow this game and start oh.

823
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: Two, it's not easier to say we want Flacco. We

824
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: want Flacco than we want Jamis. But yes, but either way, yeah,

825
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 4: you know, even Deshaun got the twenty eighteen season wrong

826
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: because he had us losing four in a row and

827
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 4: then winning eleven straight.

828
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: When either way, I don't know.

829
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 4: I guess it's six years ago, so it's hard to

830
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 4: find it find the right thing to happen. General, the

831
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: Packers more than likely will not have Jordan Love. It's

832
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 4: probably gonna be well, it's not probably, it's gonna be

833
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 4: Malik Willis and or Sean Clifford than terrible. Do you

834
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 4: give the Packers a shot of even beating the Colts

835
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 4: at Lambeau without Jordan Love?

836
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 3: No.

837
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 6: And I don't think for a second he's gonna play.

838
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 6: He's got a strained mcl Why I playing early in

839
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 6: the season when it's all about what you do in November, December, January.

840
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 6: It's just seventeen games you don't beat too. I don't

841
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 6: care what people say about oh and two. And he

842
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 6: can't play the leason hundred percent. You're just asking for

843
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 6: trouble now. Malik Willis has been awful. The other guy

844
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 6: hadn't even played. That's one reason Nick Casario was so

845
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 6: smart to extend Davis Mills for five million. That was

846
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 6: a great move because I think we all believe that

847
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 6: they're in good hands if something happens to Stroud like

848
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 6: it did last season. And I went back and was

849
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 6: looking at games that Davis had his first two years

850
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 6: and looking at the talent he played with compared to

851
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 6: what he would have now if he was playing and

852
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 6: there's no comparison. And so the quarterback year are in

853
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 6: good shape. They are not in good shape in Green Bay.

854
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 6: I think there's a chance Coults are going into Lambeau

855
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 6: and come away with a victory.

856
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: I just can't fathom why you would think Malik Willis

857
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: would be a capable backup. I get having him on

858
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: the team as a project, but look at the Browns

859
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: themselves in the preseason. They loaded up at the quarterback

860
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: position Huntley Winston, DR DTRTR get the initials mixed up, DTR.

861
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: I love it when a name is an acronym that

862
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: works out well for a lot of people.

863
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 3: General Tonight Bill's Dolphins, Who do you like.

864
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 5: Miami's at home?

865
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 6: Miami has the great offense. They got injuries and running back,

866
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 6: but their wide receivers are okay. Unless the police detain

867
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 6: Twrey Dale and he misses the game. I think the

868
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 6: Dolphins are gonna win this game, and then the Bills

869
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 6: will play them in Orchard Park in November and beat

870
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 6: the pants off of them when it's.

871
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 5: Cool and windy.

872
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 4: Beat the pants off and when it's cool and windy.

873
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 4: There's something about that that sounded not so good.

874
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 3: General. Okay, here we go, real fast, rapid fire.

875
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: It's a rapid fire part of the segment here with

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00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: the General and Mark. I'm gonna hit you. With the

877
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 4: one and O teams playing against each other. There are

878
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 4: six matchups. Okay, you give me the winner, just straight

879
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 4: up winner.

880
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: Okay.

881
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 4: Thursday Night Buffalo, Miami, General, Miami, Mark Bills.

882
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

883
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: Next one, New Orleans goes to Dallas, both of them.

884
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 4: One and Oh General.

885
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 5: As much as I hate to say it, Cowboys.

886
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 3: I have to agree.

887
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 4: Okay, Tampa Bay's one and Oh goes to Detroit. That

888
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 4: was a great playoff game last year. Detroit eaked it out. Mark,

889
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 4: Tampa General.

890
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 5: Lions can't take against Detroit at all.

891
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 3: Oh, how about that? Okay, it's the Sam Donald Bowl.

892
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: San Francisco's one and Oh doesn't look like Christian McCaffrey

893
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: is gonna play take it on the Minnesota Vikings one

894
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 4: and oh this game is in Minneapolis. Does Sam Donald

895
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 4: stay hot before the Texans arrived?

896
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 3: General?

897
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: Niners or Vikings? Remember Vikings beat the Niners last year

898
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 4: in Minnesota? Does that happen again?

899
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: In General?

900
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 5: Vikings was the upset?

901
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 7: Oh?

902
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I want this to happen.

903
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: I want them fat and happy with the Texans come

904
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: in and just stab the goose.

905
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, let's go to Sunday.

906
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 4: Still in the early games, the Seahawks negative bodyclock one

907
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: and oh going to plake on the Patriots a surprising

908
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 4: one and oh can the Seahawks stay two?

909
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 5: And oh?

910
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 4: Or the Patriots another upset? Mark Seahawks or Patriots in Foxboro?

911
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 3: I think New England wins it and kind of with

912
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 3: you General, Yah, Patriots trees. What's the line on that one?

913
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 3: Where Sean when you need them?

914
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 4: Yeah?

915
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: Never mind him?

916
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: Uh wait, what's the line on Patriots Patriots?

917
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 3: Seahawks Patriots Seahawks one Eastern? What do you think it is?

918
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 3: I think it's New England by one.

919
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: No, it's Seattle three and a half, Seattle three and

920
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 4: a half on the road.

921
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: They have no faith in the you know what the Patriots.

922
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: It's not like the Patriots set the world on fire.

923
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: They just beat a bad Bengals effort, not a bad team,

924
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: make mistakes and ran the ball. Well yeah yeah, I

925
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: mean that works. And then the last one, uh, the

926
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. The Bears want to know, Texans want to know.

927
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: Are you picking against the Texans? Either one of you?

928
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: Come on, stop, General, one more for you Monday night.

929
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 5: Fu Wait, I don't get to pick if.

930
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: You pick the Bears dead. If you picked the Bears

931
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: your fire, General, Yeah you already dead. You already said

932
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 1: it's a blowout. So the Eagles and the Falcons hook

933
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: up on Monday Night. Kirk Cousins, this is weird. They

934
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: know his physical situation, They put him out there obviously limited.

935
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: What are they doing, General, they draft panics? What is

936
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: the deal? What is the plan here in Atlanta? It's

937
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: a mess already.

938
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 6: Apparently they're trying to justify bait him one hundred and

939
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 6: eighty million, and they played him in a shotgun to

940
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 6: protect him when most of his success has come under

941
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 6: center with play action and next gen stats, had every

942
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 6: movie made, they turned it and compared it the way

943
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 6: he was before he suffered the achilles injury and it

944
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 6: was not even close. He is so much slower in

945
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 6: every way.

946
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: Man, I don't want to see any next gen stats

947
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: on me ever. Okay, that's that's all I'm saying, because

948
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: you cannot.

949
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 3: Run hot again with I'm just talking about in life.

950
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: Because this league, everything is out there. Johnny's showing me

951
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: the NFL Plus plus package.

952
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Pro package.

953
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: You can download every tackle that Petrie had. It's ridiculous

954
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: what you can get here. Anyway, general, what do you

955
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: have for us on Houston Texans dot com.

956
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 6: I've got a column that was posted this morning about

957
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 6: the running game, and only two times in team history

958
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 6: have they ranked in the top five, never number one.

959
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 6: Right now they're number one in rushing.

960
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: All right, thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate it.

961
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 5: Thank you guys very much.

962
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Speaker 1: As always, Coming up, let's stay Healthy with Houston Methodist Minutes.

963
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: What about Jordan Love's knee injury? How does that affect

964
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: an athlete? And we'll get into some other things as

965
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: well as Texans All Access continues. Back to it here

966
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. Mark VanderMeer with you and Houston

967
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: Methodist Minutes let's get to this on knee injuries, the MCL.

968
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: We heard about this with Jordan Love sprain. Do you

969
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: need surgery? How does all that work? What are some

970
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: of the nuances? Well, doctor nader Iu will tell us some.

971
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 7: Doctor yeah, Mark, So first off, the MCL, it is

972
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 7: a ligament and it's located more in the inside portion

973
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 7: of your knee, the side that we call the medial

974
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 7: side the MCL. When you have any kind of injury

975
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 7: to it, there are certain grades of sprains that are present,

976
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 7: and these can vary from grade one, two, and three.

977
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 3: One being the.

978
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 7: Least severe, where there's maybe just some tightness into the area,

979
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 7: and three whenever there's a complete tear of it. Typically

980
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 7: for grade ones and grade twos, this would require a

981
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 7: period of rest, rehabilitation, and perhaps some breaking, and this

982
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 7: can be variable on how long it would need to go. Typically,

983
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 7: for grade ones, these can go week to week, Grade

984
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 7: twos can be up to six weeks. For grade threes,

985
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 7: depending on the area where there is a big tear,

986
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 7: this may require some sort of surgical consultation and typically

987
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 7: for those that would mean something season ending.

988
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: Well, I know that some weekend Warriors walk around for years,

989
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: maybe literally with a slight tear, and maybe some professional

990
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: athletes play with a slight tear. Is that possible? Talk

991
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: about that part of it. When you have just a

992
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: little bit of a tear and you might be able

993
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: to live with it for a while.

994
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 3: How does that work?

995
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, so there are incidents where you can have partial

996
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 7: tears in some of these soft tissues, and in some

997
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 7: cases it may be in an area which doesn't have

998
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 7: a very good blood supply that goes into it and

999
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 7: therefore it doesn't heal very well. So essentially, if it

1000
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,479
Speaker 7: is something that may not completely heal, you can still

1001
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 7: do things like bracing and rehabilitation where you strengthen everything

1002
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 7: else around that part of the knee to help with

1003
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 7: offsetting some of the tension being placed onto there. Bracing

1004
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 7: can also help with giving more stability to that area,

1005
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 7: so that way you can still return back into activities

1006
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 7: with a reduction of risk of re injury.

1007
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: All right, this next one, there might not be a

1008
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: simple answer to this, but could you explain why the

1009
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: recovery time from an ACL surgery is so much better,

1010
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: so much faster than it used to be.

1011
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 7: Why is that, doctor, Well, you know, acls are a

1012
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 7: knee injury that we have more studies on compared to

1013
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 7: any other part of the knee, and so we have

1014
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 7: a lot of resources devoted into figuring out why they

1015
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 7: get injured and what we need to do for recovery.

1016
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 7: We've also advanced technology and surgeries for these so that

1017
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Speaker 7: way we can do things to get them back into play.

1018
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Speaker 7: You know, years ago, it often meant that it was

1019
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 7: something career ending and then eventually got to the point

1020
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Speaker 7: where you could return in your career, albeit that it

1021
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 7: may have persistent symptoms that go on when you return

1022
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 7: to play, and the recovery time could have been many months. Nowadays,

1023
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Speaker 7: we do have better technology with the understanding that we

1024
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 7: know right now with ACLS, that we can get them

1025
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 7: better faster, knowing that still with this type of injury,

1026
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Speaker 7: it can be catastrophic and it can take a lot

1027
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Speaker 7: of time for not just the actual surgery itself, but

1028
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Speaker 7: for the recovery and being able to return back into

1029
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Speaker 7: play at the level that they were at pre injury.

1030
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Speaker 1: All right, great information, doctor, thank you very much for

1031
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: joining us.

1032
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Speaker 7: No problem, Thank you, Mark.

1033
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Speaker 1: Doctor Nader Ayub of Houston Methodist, the official healthcare provider

1034
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans, Houston Methodist leading medicine. All right,

1035
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: coming up on the Friday Night show, Dimiko Ryans right

1036
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: out of the shoot. We will hear from him. Also

1037
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Speaker 1: a little bit later on in the show, Jonathan Alexander

1038
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Speaker 1: of the Houston Chronicle is going to join us. We're

1039
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Speaker 1: going to get together with Bears broadcasters, have a little

1040
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: back and forth with them in advance of the Sunday

1041
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: nighter with the Houston Texans taking on the Chicago Bears

1042
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: at NRG Stadium. Remember, be early, wear white and give

1043
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: the players a delight. Hey, that rhymes coming out of

1044
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: the tunnel. Get there early if you're going to the game,

1045
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: so you can greet that when they come out of

1046
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: the tunnel and get this place so fired up in

1047
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 1: a way that we haven't seen for a long long time.

1048
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that Sunday Night Texans Bears. Thursday Night

1049
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: Football on the way on six to ten. Bills Dolphins.

1050
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Speaker 1: Have a great night. Go Texans.