WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Robot Monster

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>thrilled to announce today's episode. Today we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about the nineteen fifty three love lorn alien

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<v Speaker 1>guerrilla borg attack movie Robot Monster, a film that absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>proves beyond any doubt that a movie does not have

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<v Speaker 1>to be good to be unforgettable. Robot Monster is about

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two minutes long. It was made on a microscopic budget.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes very close to zero since whatsoever, and ever

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<v Speaker 1>since I first saw this movie about twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>now I have probably thought of it at least once

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<v Speaker 1>every week of my life. It is a fascinating film

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to throw up. This is this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>We were not aware of this fact until later on

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, but we both watched this on our

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<v Speaker 1>each on our own on January thirty one. January thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>as it turns out, is a guerrilla suit day, like

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<v Speaker 1>national or international. I'm not sure. Maybe there's a different

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<v Speaker 1>international Guerilla Suit Day. I Either way, uh perfect that

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<v Speaker 1>we should have watched this film because it does feature

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<v Speaker 1>most of a guerrilla suit. Uh. And is and it's ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>I think an important page in the history of guerilla

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<v Speaker 1>suits in cinema. Who establishes that day, is that like

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<v Speaker 1>the National or the International Guerilla Suit Consortium or something

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<v Speaker 1>or yeah, yeah, I can imagine their board meetings where everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>of course is wearing a guerrilla costume. Are you ready

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<v Speaker 1>to go A four Robot Monster? I think you are,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody is, because everybody should be. Yeah. It's Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a nine film, and it's not just a bad

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<v Speaker 1>B movie. It's a it's legendary slice of American schlock cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>The titular monster is essentially an icon of BT cinema.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean that in the fully religious sense of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Yeah, it is a It's an image that

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<v Speaker 1>may be venerated, that you may use an act of devotion. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>All this is to say, this is a film so

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<v Speaker 1>slapped together and yet unique that it transcends the original picture.

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<v Speaker 1>And and say what you will about the the Roman Monster,

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<v Speaker 1>the robot Monster of the movie. It's never boring, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it certainly leaves an impression. Yes, Robot Monster is schlock,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is not hack, which I think is a

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<v Speaker 1>very important distinction, one that this movie really forced me

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<v Speaker 1>to meditate on. Uh. And, if you'll allow me to elaborate,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to explain. Let's have it okay. So,

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<v Speaker 1>schlock is a term we've used on the show before,

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<v Speaker 1>but we've never really defined it. I guess it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard to define. It's a slang term that

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<v Speaker 1>just discovered is derived from a couple of Yiddish root words.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently that has to do with the Yiddish words meaning

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<v Speaker 1>like a stroke or meaning a person who is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of unkempt. But it's often used to describe a certain

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<v Speaker 1>kind of B movie. I think more broadly, you could

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<v Speaker 1>use schlock to refer to cultural products in general, like

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a schlock comic book, or maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>a schlock novel or a schlock sculpture. Uh. And, as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the definition is a little fuzzy, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can kind of build a word cloud around it, like

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<v Speaker 1>what are the associations? And in that word cloud, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say you would find terms like cheap, messy, or clumsy,

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<v Speaker 1>weird and unsophisticated. So the exact opposite of a schlock

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<v Speaker 1>movie or cultural product would be one that is expensive

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<v Speaker 1>or high budget, very skillful, skillfully made down to earth

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<v Speaker 1>and refined or tasteful sounds dreadful. Meanwhile, Hack, in its

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<v Speaker 1>usage for cultural products like movies, refers more to things

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<v Speaker 1>that are executed with a certain baseline of professionalism or

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<v Speaker 1>no how but are boring, unoriginal, uninspired, and forgettable. And

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<v Speaker 1>the annals of monster movie dum especially of the nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>are full of both kinds of movies, and sometimes these

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<v Speaker 1>things can overlap. But I think Robot Monster is special

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<v Speaker 1>because it is all one and none of the other.

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<v Speaker 1>This movie is a solid ten point oh on the

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<v Speaker 1>Schlock scale and a zero point zero on the Hack scale,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes it, in a strange way, kind of a masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>I would put the Edwood movies like Plan nine from

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<v Speaker 1>Outer Space in the same category. It is a bumbling, awkward, nonsensical,

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<v Speaker 1>almost improvisational hour of of guerrilla suit mayhem, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>never leaving my brain. This is the opposite of the boring, unoriginal, uninspired,

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<v Speaker 1>forgettable schlock monster movies that that came out around the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. I feel like if one day they upload

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<v Speaker 1>my consciousness into a computer, and like my memories are

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<v Speaker 1>lost in the transfer. Robot Monster is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the few that survives wherever I go, whatever happens,

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<v Speaker 1>I am taking Roman with me. Yeah. Now, let me

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<v Speaker 1>describe Roman for anyone who still doesn't know who we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about here, um, and you probably just need to

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<v Speaker 1>be reminded, because again, this is a famous figure from

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<v Speaker 1>B movie history. It is essentially a gorilla, like a

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<v Speaker 1>guerrilla costume and uh, kind of chunky looking and in

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<v Speaker 1>appropriately long arms. But instead of a guerrilla's head, there's

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of looks like a robot head, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a space helmet with very long, broad antennae

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<v Speaker 1>on top. And there's this murky face plate through which

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<v Speaker 1>you can see something like a featureless face or some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of amorphous mass, or if you're looking at it

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<v Speaker 1>in just the right way, you might think you see

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<v Speaker 1>something like a skull. We'll get into the into the

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<v Speaker 1>different interpretations of it later, but this is the Roman.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Robot Monster, and it it's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>just look at it. And I've seen, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>heard lots of jokes about how this is really thrown together.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at that they just they couldn't afford a monster,

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<v Speaker 1>so they got a guerrilla suit and they just put

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<v Speaker 1>a robot um head on top of it. Yes, yes

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<v Speaker 1>that's true, but it also you just can't dismiss how

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<v Speaker 1>well this works on screen, Like, this creature is interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the film, there's sometimes where there is I think

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate feeling of menace to the creature, and it works.

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<v Speaker 1>There are plenty of scenes in which it it does

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<v Speaker 1>feel goofy, but I don't know it, Uh, it works

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<v Speaker 1>in a weird way. Well, it's so odd. It's such

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<v Speaker 1>a perverse combination, like the space helmet with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the Google head inside, with the thick guerrilla body with

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<v Speaker 1>like it's shaggy butt, but also the way that the

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<v Speaker 1>person has to walk inside the gorilla suit, because like

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<v Speaker 1>the suit is obviously much bigger than the person. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you see them walking there, it's this big, thick

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<v Speaker 1>guerrilla body taking these very dainty looking footsteps up the

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<v Speaker 1>mountain pathways. It's you've never seen anything like it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just perfect. Yeah, and it and and I do also

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<v Speaker 1>need to drive home, Like there's so many worse looking

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<v Speaker 1>monsters in monster movie history, Like you can't even begin

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<v Speaker 1>to list the monsters that look dumber or look more

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<v Speaker 1>thrown together on the screen. And yet there is something

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<v Speaker 1>unique about the way this came together, Like there's just,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, there's something kind of perverse about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't believe this is what the monster is. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's on screen for most of the movie. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>like obscuring it behind fog or in the dark or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just center frame. Half of the movie is the

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<v Speaker 1>roman doing zoom calls with another romance are just walking

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<v Speaker 1>around probably open broad daylight. Yeah. So another thing that

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<v Speaker 1>I started thinking about with this movie is it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>how early it comes in the the fifties uh space

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<v Speaker 1>invasion movie arc. I would have assumed it came out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, if you'd asked me, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>assumed Robot Monster was nineteen fifties seven, you know, same

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<v Speaker 1>year as uh like Attack of the Crab Monsters or

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<v Speaker 1>something or move was that fifty seven or fifty eight

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<v Speaker 1>and I know somewhere in there. But instead it was

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<v Speaker 1>sort of an early runner in this arc. So to

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<v Speaker 1>situate it within the history of sci fi movies, alien

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<v Speaker 1>invasion movies or alien attack movies, I think really hit

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<v Speaker 1>their peak in the in the like mid to late

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifties. Before that, if you look at the sci

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<v Speaker 1>fi movies of the thirties and forties, there are actually

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<v Speaker 1>very few alien invasion films. There are a few, but

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<v Speaker 1>not not many. The most common theme of earlier science

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<v Speaker 1>fiction films seems to be mad scientists. Like many of

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<v Speaker 1>the sci fi movies from this period that we've covered

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<v Speaker 1>on the show fit into that category. So we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Doctor X that's the one with synthetic flesh, mad

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<v Speaker 1>science movie. There's Doctor Cyclops that's the guy who shrinks

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<v Speaker 1>people and then menaces them with various animals and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Mad Love that's about a hand transplant gone horribly wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>There is Things to Come, which addresses all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>general scientific progress for good and for ill. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't actually covered Things to Come yet properly on

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<v Speaker 1>Weird House Cinema, but I believe we talked about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Time after Time episode, because it's the

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<v Speaker 1>only H. G. Wells adaptation that Wells actually wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>screenplay for. Uh. And in fact, you can even think

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<v Speaker 1>about the big universal monster movies that included science fiction

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<v Speaker 1>elements from the thirties and forties. You've got Frankenstein, Bride

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<v Speaker 1>of Frankenstein, The Invisible Man, and so forth. They're all

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<v Speaker 1>mad scientist movies. Pretty much all of them involve a

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<v Speaker 1>scientist breaking the boundaries of nature. You're in ordinary life

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<v Speaker 1>with some kind of experiment or maybe experimental procedure or

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<v Speaker 1>surgery or something. Everything goes horribly wrong and it leads

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<v Speaker 1>to murder. And those kind of movies don't go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the mad science breaks nature theme continues in the fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>but almost always with atomic themes. Now, so you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody creates giant bugs with atomic radiation for obvious reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>And there are a lot of hack movies in this category.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's in the early nineteen fifties that

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<v Speaker 1>a new type of science fiction movie takes over, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is the alien invasion or alien intervention film. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this type of story had already existed for many decades.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say probably the first big alien invasion story was H. G.

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<v Speaker 1>Wells War The World's in eight. Yeah, Yeah, that's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>the big one, and it's it That novel is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the prototype for most of the alien invasion stories

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<v Speaker 1>that followed, of which there were many in written fiction

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the early twentieth century, but it wasn't until the

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<v Speaker 1>early fifties that this became such a common plot structure

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<v Speaker 1>for sci fi movies. And I think there were some

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<v Speaker 1>big early and influential examples. One would be The Thing

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<v Speaker 1>from Another World, which we have an episode on. Another

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<v Speaker 1>would be The Day the Earth Stood Still, both of

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<v Speaker 1>those movies from nineteen fifty one. Though The Day the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth Stood Still is more of an alien intervention than invasion.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one where the alien shut up and they say,

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<v Speaker 1>now you're you're doing war. You need to stop that

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<v Speaker 1>or we're going to endue all. There was, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteen fifty three film adaptation of War the World's

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<v Speaker 1>the famous Mercury Theater radio broadcast. I wasn't sure when

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<v Speaker 1>that was. I looked it up the orson Wells one

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<v Speaker 1>and that was in nineteen thirty eight, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio. Uh. And there would of course go

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<v Speaker 1>on to be a million more alien invasion movies throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the decade where aliens, you know, they come to either

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<v Speaker 1>one destroy us and take our planet for themselves, to

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<v Speaker 1>threaten to destroy us if we don't stop doing something,

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<v Speaker 1>usually war or some times nuclear experiments or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'd say the third big category is they

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<v Speaker 1>come here to infiltrate us and indoctrinate us in some way,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe to serve them. So examples there would be invasion

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<v Speaker 1>of the Body Snatchers that was in fifty six. It

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<v Speaker 1>conquered the world on the lower budget side, also fifty six.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the thing is Robot Monster actually comes earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the decade than I would have guessed. Nineteen fifty

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<v Speaker 1>three is a little ahead of the curve here, And

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder Rob where you think it fits into this

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<v Speaker 1>broader arc. I think the basic idea is that the

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<v Speaker 1>Romans want to destroy all humans and take Earth for themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's also a little bit of that Day the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth Stood Still playing nine from Outer Space kind of

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<v Speaker 1>preachiness about how like the oh the Earthlings, you are

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<v Speaker 1>stupid and you are destroying yourselves. Yeah, yeah, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>this the Roman, the Roman, if you will here, the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman civilization has essentially wiped out all of humanity. And

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<v Speaker 1>then they explain that they have done this because we're

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<v Speaker 1>basically we're getting too technologically advanced, too much of the

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<v Speaker 1>threat to them, and and so we see category one

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<v Speaker 1>and two. Their Category three is not really in play,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does have some connections to this film, as

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<v Speaker 1>we'll discuss, because so much of this infiltration and indoctrinization

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<v Speaker 1>UH fiction of this era, the invasion of the Body Snatchers,

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<v Speaker 1>it conquered the world. A lot of this route lines

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<v Speaker 1>up with UM the UH the Hollywood black List with

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy is UM and the fear of communism in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, which I do not detect really as a

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<v Speaker 1>theme in in Robot Monster at all. But no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. But it does have connections to

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<v Speaker 1>several of the individuals involved in the making of the picture. Yeah, Now,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into the film a bit more here,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to stress that this is a film that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been seeing clips of since I was a child.

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<v Speaker 1>I I I had at least some version of it

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<v Speaker 1>came from Hollywood on a VHS tape, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>see all these clips of monster movies, and they of

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<v Speaker 1>course poked fun of it in that I'd watched the

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<v Speaker 1>season one MST three K episode before, probably more than once,

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<v Speaker 1>but this was the first time that I'd really sat

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<v Speaker 1>down and gave this film a proper viewing, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say it's kind of a challenge to make

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<v Speaker 1>sense of everything. Kind of it's like a puzzle box. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you have to concentrate. It's like in Dungeons

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<v Speaker 1>and Dragons, it's like some sort of concentration spell that

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<v Speaker 1>if someone were to bump into you, you would just

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<v Speaker 1>lose everything and the spell would collapse. Your understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>the film will completely collapse if you're not paying attention

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<v Speaker 1>to it um at all times. And and it can

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<v Speaker 1>also be difficult to because the tone of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>will just turn on a dime. The dialogue is often absurd,

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<v Speaker 1>and the plot at once feels awesomely inspired by you know,

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<v Speaker 1>classic sci fi pulp but also just goofy is all

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<v Speaker 1>get out. Yes, it's a wonderful combination of Like the

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<v Speaker 1>dialogue is for the most part hilarious, but also it

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<v Speaker 1>has a harder edge than a lot of the sci

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<v Speaker 1>fi movies of the time. Like just the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>unforgivingness of the romance plan for Earth and their cruelty

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<v Speaker 1>is is somewhat shocking. Yeah, there's there's something gloriously miscalculated

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<v Speaker 1>and miscalibrated about so much of the film. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mess, but I was thinking it's a lovable mess,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can't help but feel protective of it. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to wrap a blanket around it and take it

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<v Speaker 1>home with you. Yes, So, um elevator pitch for this film,

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<v Speaker 1>I just had to invoke mad love and say Roman

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<v Speaker 1>has conquered earth, why can't he conquered love? That's it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. He and he basically asked that question at

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<v Speaker 1>the end. He's like, why can't the Roman have what

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<v Speaker 1>the human has? Love, feelings, emotions. Yeah, though this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like this this plot element pokes its head. What

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<v Speaker 1>maybe um, halfway through the film, maybe in the last

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<v Speaker 1>third of the film, and it kind of comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere as a complication. Yes, when it shows up,

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<v Speaker 1>it is mighty unexpected and uh and a very welcome

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<v Speaker 1>turn because it happens right when the movie starts getting

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<v Speaker 1>kind of repetitive with like these calls back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>with Roman where he just keeps threatening the human's But

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<v Speaker 1>then suddenly he looks on the view screen and he

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<v Speaker 1>just sees Alice, the the young lady in the movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, Oh, I am in love. What is

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<v Speaker 1>this feeling for a Roman. Yeah, because up to that

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<v Speaker 1>point they've been considering negotiating with with the Roman. They

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<v Speaker 1>have tried and like the most they can get is

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<v Speaker 1>like he's He's like, if you surrender, um, you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a quick death, and if you don't, unimaginable death. Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's no. It doesn't seem to be all out of

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<v Speaker 1>wiggle room with him, until suddenly he becomes smitten with

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<v Speaker 1>Alice and he's like, wait, I should negotiate with her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to do the face to face with her.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, but we're getting ahead of ourselves. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and listen to some trailer audio. Here, with the

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<v Speaker 1>swiftness of a deadly cosmic ray, the Earth is invaded

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<v Speaker 1>by indestructible moon monsters, their ghastly mission death for all humans.

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<v Speaker 1>What astounding technical developments are being made to protect mankind?

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<v Speaker 1>Robot Monster brings you an actual preview of the devastating

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<v Speaker 1>forces of our future, unsuspected revelations of incredible horrors that

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<v Speaker 1>will terrify you with their brutal reality. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>escape from me, oh, humans, there is nor escape all right. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be wondering at this point, where can you

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<v Speaker 1>watch Robot Monster, if you want to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>pause the episode, watch the movie and come back, or

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<v Speaker 1>you're inspired after you listen to the full episode to

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<v Speaker 1>watch it again. Well, fortunately it is widely available. We

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<v Speaker 1>should note, however, that um Bob Fermanac, a three D

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<v Speaker 1>film archivist, has been heading up a restoration for a

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<v Speaker 1>three D Blu Ray release, so re release of Robot Monster,

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<v Speaker 1>though as of this recording, I don't think they have

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<v Speaker 1>a distributor or a date yet. I could be wrong

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<v Speaker 1>on that, but I don't. I don't think anything's lined

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<v Speaker 1>up officially, but it's still pretty exciting for romance fans

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<v Speaker 1>out there. All that being said, the available film quality

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<v Speaker 1>as of this recording is still very watchable, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you should You shouldn't put off watching Robot Monster.

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows what tomorrow will bring. But once this gets released,

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<v Speaker 1>I think this will be worth checking out because it

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<v Speaker 1>will be in three D uh for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>with the ability to to power up the three D

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<v Speaker 1>and it was originally a three D picture. Gorgeous And

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<v Speaker 1>this makes me realize what the automatic billion bubble machine

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<v Speaker 1>must have been in the movie for, because otherwise I

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<v Speaker 1>was unclear on why Romance cave, his Cave of Slaughter

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<v Speaker 1>has just a bubble machine in it. But that's got

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<v Speaker 1>to give some three D texture, right, I guess. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise you've got to wonder, Well, maybe this technology in

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<v Speaker 1>Earth's atmosphere just generates soap bubbles as a byproduct of

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<v Speaker 1>its functionality, or bubbles are key, like somehow it's those

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<v Speaker 1>bubbles all contain nuggets of information then then float up

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<v Speaker 1>through the atmosphere to some sort of Roman satellite. And no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably just there because it looks neat, because otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like, Okay, so Roman just has a fad

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<v Speaker 1>toy of the nineteen fifties in his cave, Like does

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<v Speaker 1>he also have a Mr. Potato Head or a Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>Logs or something? Yeah? All right, Well let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>the people involved here. Starting at the top, we have

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Tucker, the director of Robot Monster of n Through.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I think right at the top, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to say I heard some rumors that about this about

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Tucker, that like he the critics savage to this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and Phil Tucker was so upset by that that it

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<v Speaker 1>destroyed him. But it sounds like you found out maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's not really true, correct. Yeah, there's an excellent book

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<v Speaker 1>out there titled I Cannot Yet I Must. Let's quote

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<v Speaker 1>from the film The True Story of the Best Bad

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<v Speaker 1>Monster Movie of All Time, Robot Monster, by Anders Runstadt,

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<v Speaker 1>which you can get as a digital book or or

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<v Speaker 1>physical book. And it's a really great, well cited, um

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<v Speaker 1>but very readable and entertaining exploration of this entire film,

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<v Speaker 1>like what it comes out of, who was involved in it,

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<v Speaker 1>its legacy, has a lot of clips from interviews with

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<v Speaker 1>various people involved in the bios of all the people involved.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you leave this episode wanting a much deeper

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<v Speaker 1>dive into uh, into into what Robot Monster is in

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<v Speaker 1>the world it emerged from, highly recommend that book. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Runstad does a great job of of sort of dispelling

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<v Speaker 1>some of the urban legends surrounding this film, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for I think I had heard this as well, but

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<v Speaker 1>like this idea that this was a film that the

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<v Speaker 1>creator held up as a masterpiece and then was just

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<v Speaker 1>broken when he, uh he found out the critics didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like it. So yeah, I'm gonna incorporate some of what

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<v Speaker 1>Romstad has to say, uh into this brief bio of

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker Okay, so American director, former marine, former radio and

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<v Speaker 1>TV guy who had two films out in nine Robot

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<v Speaker 1>Monster obviously, but also a film called Dance Hall Racket,

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<v Speaker 1>a crime movie starring and written by legendary stand up

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<v Speaker 1>comedian Lenny Bruce. What yes, Okay, I I did not

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<v Speaker 1>know this existed. Wow, that's an interesting crossover. Yeah. Bruce's

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<v Speaker 1>wife at the time, dancer Honey Harlow, also acted in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not seen it. I have no reason to believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's any good or even worth checking out unless year,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, like a Lenny Bruce completest. But um but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I came out with the same year Robot Monster on

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<v Speaker 1>the and of course would come to define him. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, the stories you'll find out there are mixed.

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<v Speaker 1>But it does seem like there were issues with the

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<v Speaker 1>studio and he battled depression a bit over all of that. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And also he didn't really work anywhere near mainstream Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Uh. He did a string of

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<v Speaker 1>low budget um l a bur less comedies during the

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<v Speaker 1>mid nineteen fifties, followed by Broadway Jungle about how slimy

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood uh is from the viewpoint of a young director,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a TV movie, The Cape Caniveral Monsters in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty which is a bad alien invasion film but

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<v Speaker 1>apparently without the lovable um aspects of Robot Monster. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was his last directing credit. But he worked as

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<v Speaker 1>a post production manager on n six is King Kong,

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<v Speaker 1>seven Orca and five episodes of Night The Next Step

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<v Speaker 1>Beyond TV series. He also worked as an editor on

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<v Speaker 1>several episodes of Wonder to Wonder Woman TV series and

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<v Speaker 1>nine eighties The Nude Bomb, which was a Maxwell Smart movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in that book, I cannot yet I must by

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<v Speaker 1>Runstad Yeah he he, He points out yet the the

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<v Speaker 1>urban legend of Tucker as a director, we saw himself

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<v Speaker 1>as a genius uh in this film as a master work.

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<v Speaker 1>That that is for the most part false and that

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<v Speaker 1>more or less he was he was shooting for pure

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment on this one. He did not think he was

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<v Speaker 1>creating a masterpiece, but mission accomplished. Yeah, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>highly entertaining. Um. Also worth noting public reception to the

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<v Speaker 1>work did not seem to be a big factor on

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<v Speaker 1>his mental health, that he did seem to have some

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<v Speaker 1>struggles and later in life he had some I think

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<v Speaker 1>some some memory related struggles as well. But uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to go all in on this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend picking up that book. Uh's so many

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<v Speaker 1>interesting tidbits from his life that runs stud Explorers. One

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<v Speaker 1>of which I found pretty interesting is that very late

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<v Speaker 1>in the life and career of Peter Laurie, Tucker was

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<v Speaker 1>involved in the nineteen sixty one pitch for the Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Laurie Playhouse. Uh. This was gonna be like a Twilight

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<v Speaker 1>Zone or Boris Karloff's thriller style anthology show, and the

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<v Speaker 1>host was gonna be Peter Lorii. I can't believe that

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<v Speaker 1>didn't happen. At the sacrilege criminality that this did not happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen any footage from Apparently they shot a

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<v Speaker 1>pilot and Laurie was the host of it, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had him like in a bowler hat at a desk

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a spider web. Okay, not to be

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<v Speaker 1>confused with the radio drama of the nineteen forties titled

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<v Speaker 1>Mystery Playhouse that Peter Lorii hosted. Okay, I'm thinking of

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<v Speaker 1>a crossover. I guess we need a time machine to

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<v Speaker 1>make this happen, but crossover of the never realized Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Laurie Playhouse with the Shelley Duval Fairytale Theater. Huh how

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<v Speaker 1>about it? Yeah? Yeah, oh man, Shelley Duval Fat Fairytale

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<v Speaker 1>Theater just looks marvelous every time I look at it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not have the uh, the privilege of getting

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<v Speaker 1>to watch this show when it ran. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to some friends and they were like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh, it's interesting anyway. So that's Tucker. But onto

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<v Speaker 1>the writing credit for this picture. Wyatt or Dung, who

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<v Speaker 1>lived nineteen twenty two through two thousand and five American

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<v Speaker 1>actor and writer. Born in Shanghai, China, and served in

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<v Speaker 1>the U. S Army during World War Two. His father

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<v Speaker 1>was a career US military man and his mother a

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<v Speaker 1>Russian immigrant. Runstad writes that or Dung, while not himself Asian,

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<v Speaker 1>learned to speak Chinese in China in addition to English

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<v Speaker 1>and Russian, which was his mother's native tongue. And he

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<v Speaker 1>also had a broad appreciation for Asian culture from a

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<v Speaker 1>young age. So uh, he was influenced by that, and

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<v Speaker 1>this shows up in some of his his his later

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<v Speaker 1>screenplay work. But He was also influenced by his mother's

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<v Speaker 1>interest in spiritualism and the occult, so he was He

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<v Speaker 1>was known to be kind of an odd character in

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>these sort of l a Hollywood scene of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't detect any supernaturalism in Robot Monster. I would

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 1>say Robot Monster is hard science fiction. Yeah yeah, um

0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that you or dong was? It said that there were

0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>stories about how he would um. He was always discussing

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the paranormal, proclaiming that he had a great fear of

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>predatory or scavenging birds due to a previous life experience.

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Who um And anyway, after the war, he attended an

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 1>acting school in l A. On the g I. Bill

0:27:34.600 --> 0:27:36.919
<v Speaker 1>Tucker met him on the set of some lost or

0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.719
<v Speaker 1>unknown TV or exploit exploitation project that he was involved in,

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 1>and perhaps because they both had a military background, uh,

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>they kind of hit it off. And then basically Tucker

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>came to and said, Hey, I've got this sci fi

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:52.920
<v Speaker 1>comedy I want to write about the last few people

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 1>on Earth. It's going to be called Googy Eyes, and

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I want you to write it. I'm glad they didn't

0:27:59.119 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>call it Googy Eye is yeah. Um so so a

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of space in the in the in the Room

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>stat book explores exactly how this seemed to come together.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.919
<v Speaker 1>And it's kind of confusing because later interviews with or

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Dong and Tucker both had kind of different stories about everything.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And uh and then and he also spent some time

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about how weird it is that, Okay, this idea

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>that he wanted to make um a comedy. It seems

0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of early in the fifties monster movie craze for

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>there to be an intentional parody. We talked about how

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of ahead of its time this is, so the

0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>idea that it would have been a comedy seems kind

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 1>of strange. Yeah, I gotta say, while I love it

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>and it is very funny, uh, and I don't want

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to be insulting, but it it doesn't read to me

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>like intentional comedy. That's not how the movie comes across it.

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>It does have a, I would say, and uh, a

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>sense of intentional absurdity like that the uh, the director

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and writer were being I don't know, over the top

0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.719
<v Speaker 1>in a playful way, But it doesn't strike me as

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>like that every line that rings funny to us was

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>necessarily supposed to be funny, if that makes any sense. Yeah, Yeah,

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think there are Yeah, there are definite

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>lines in the film that are supposed to be funny,

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 1>especially some of the lines said by the children, um

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.880
<v Speaker 1>are played for laughs. But yeah, it seems like whatever

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>the original intention was, they ended up leaning more towards

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.880
<v Speaker 1>uh trauma, sci fi and and a little bit of

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>horror um and uh. And you have this idea that

0:29:37.200 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>he might have pitched it as a comedy. It might,

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 1>according to run Stat, have had something to do with

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.280
<v Speaker 1>just his knowledge of their limitations, like knowing that they

0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 1>were going to have to make this film for basically nothing,

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and therefore they weren't going to be able to pull

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>off some sort of amazing special effect. It might end

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>up being some sort of googly eyed uh like cost

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>him effect that they were going to have to use

0:29:58.960 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>on the monster. I will say, the more that I

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>think about it, I don't know. It's causing me to

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>think of like what actually counts as intentional comedy. There's

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff in it that I don't know

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>if it was written as a joke, but it comes

0:30:13.360 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 1>across as funny, and it doesn't feel like there was

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>any attempt on the director's part to avoid that if

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, Like the guerrilla suit looks funny when

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.959
<v Speaker 1>Roman is walking through the desert and he's just showing

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>you like they're they're not. They didn't go like, oh

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>that looks funny, better cut that out and obscure it. Yeah, um, well,

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 1>or necessarily that looks funny, let's have more of that.

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah now. Runstad also reveals that Tucker, in later

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 1>uh interviews, claimed that Ordung only typed the script and

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that it was otherwise all his idea, all his his material,

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>and that he repaid or done with like a writing

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 1>credit and the prospect of more money. But it also

0:30:56.600 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>seems like Tucker seems to have maybe bent the truth

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>about a number of things and or had some problems

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>with recall later in life, because apparently like at one

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>point he claimed that he had been successful writing science

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 1>fiction under a pen name, but nobody knows what his

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>pen name was uh so uh For instance, it's it's possible,

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>according to run Stad, that he might have just merely

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>um submitted some material and never got published or or something,

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>because it seems strange that he would not have wanted

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>his actual name out there on science fiction. Um. But anyway,

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>run Side says that, Okay, the two men disagreed on

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the history regarding this script, but three

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 1>things seemed to be agreeable in both of their accounts. One,

0:31:39.600 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the story was Tuckers and Tuckers alone, uh to Tucker

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 1>wanted a movie about life in the aftermath of nuclear devastation.

0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:50.240
<v Speaker 1>And also three both state that the finished film differed

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:53.120
<v Speaker 1>from the original script, though they both had different stories

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:57.400
<v Speaker 1>about who actually wrote the original script. Okay and Rudenstad

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 1>also mentions that blacklisted comedy screenwriter Frederick I. Ronaldo may

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:07.479
<v Speaker 1>have contributed to the script as well. Um, I'm not

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>sure what to really make of that, but that could

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I guess possibly the um account for some of these

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>moments of comedy that occur. Maybe they're the they're they're

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>evidence of some sort of like punch up um edit

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>that happened with the script, or some earlier version of

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the script that had a lot of jokes in it. Anyway,

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:30.959
<v Speaker 1>or Dong's previous acting experience included roles on TVs Dick

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Tracy and some other fifties TV shows you know, small parts,

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 1>as well as an uncredited role in the nineteen one

0:32:37.160 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>film Fixed Bayonets He went on to play small roles

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 1>in n Dragon's Goal nineteen fifty fours, Monster from the

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Ocean Floor in nineteen fifty six is Walk on the

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Dark Street. He followed up his writing credit on Robot

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Monster with writing credits on fifty threes Combat Squad, fifty

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 1>fours Target Earth fifty six is Walk on the Dark Street,

0:32:57.280 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and nineteen fifty nine First Man into Space. All right,

0:33:00.880 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>let's get into the cast a bit more here. Uh.

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:07.640
<v Speaker 1>We we have only a handful of human survivors that

0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>are that are left to contend with the Roman threat.

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>The leading man is clearly Roy, played by George Nader.

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>This is once again your classic fifties movie rectangle. Yeah

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>he is there, he's got a jaw, he's got some hair,

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and he'll say the lines yep, yep. Now. This is

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:32.440
<v Speaker 1>pretty early in Nader's career, following a fair amount of

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>uncredited work and small parts, but he did a lot

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 1>of TV in some films following this movie. This was

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>his first starring role. Uh. Some of his bigger subsequent

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:46.479
<v Speaker 1>pictures included Sins of Jezebel from three, Carnival Story from

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 1>fifty four, The Million Nis of Sumaru from sixty seven

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and nineteen seventy three is Beyond Atlantis. George Nader has

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 1>some excellent scenes where he has to uh flirt with

0:33:57.200 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>his love interest Alice, uh while they're like both soldering

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 1>and electronics board, and it's all in voice over. It's

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>very funny. Yeah, it's an extended secret. Yeah. Now, speaking

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:13.319
<v Speaker 1>of Alice, the love interest of both Roy and ultimately

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.759
<v Speaker 1>the Roman. This character is played by Claudia Barrett. You

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 1>know what, I love Claudia Barrett in Robot Monster. I'm

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 1>not gonna say like she shows great acting skill in

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>this film, but man, she's given it her all, and

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>there there are parts where you just gotta hand it

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 1>to her, like the monologue about after Roman expresses interest

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>in her. Yeah, yeah, where she's like, you know what,

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna date Romance. I know you don't want me to,

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.960
<v Speaker 1>but look where are other approaches. I've got us nowhere.

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna date the Horrible Monster and we'll just see

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>what what happened. Right. It is for the sake of

0:34:46.040 --> 0:34:51.359
<v Speaker 1>future humanity. I will be bride of Roman. Yeah, it's

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>a it's definitely like you said. The performance itself is

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 1>not amazing, but it's you can see the talent shining

0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>through it with the limitations of this role. So Barrett

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>was an actor of TV and screen whose first movie

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>appearance was nineteen forty nine White Heat, followed by a

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>role in nineteen fifties The Happy Years, which starred Dean

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Stockwell and Leo G. Carroll. She did a lot of

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:17.359
<v Speaker 1>TV and film work up through I think nineteen sixty four,

0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>but White Heat and Robot Monster probably the best remembered

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>of the bunch. She gives it her all, she holds

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>nothing back, and she also has some great scenes where

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 1>she like has to emotionally turn on the dime because

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>it's what the script demands. So she goes from like

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>weeping about the fact that, uh that Roy is apparently

0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>dead to uh just being like, oh, Roy, you're so bossy, alright,

0:35:43.080 --> 0:35:45.240
<v Speaker 1>So that we have our leading man, are leading lady,

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>we have to have our older brains of the operation.

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.800
<v Speaker 1>This is, of course, the Professor, played by John Milong,

0:35:52.960 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>who lived through nine. Once again, I'm not gonna try

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to say John Milong is like great in this role,

0:36:01.360 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>but I like John Milong. I just get if this

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>makes any sense, Like I get the vibe that I

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 1>would like to hang out with him. I do think

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>he's one of the actors in the film that you

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>can catch adding in free pathos for various scenes. Like

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 1>the director didn't ask for it, the script didn't demand it,

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>but by god, he's a professional and he's going to

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:24.359
<v Speaker 1>make it as real as possible. Yeah so uh. John

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>Milong was born Adolf Heinrich mootz Uh, an Austrian actor

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of Ukrainian Jewish heritage, who, like many other actors and

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 1>filmmakers and many that we've discussed on the show before

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.440
<v Speaker 1>from pictures of this period, fled the rise of the

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Nazis in Europe. He became a U. S citizen in

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:43.479
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eight. He was a much bigger name actor during

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen twenties in Austria, but then it found solid

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>work in the States as well once he relocated. He

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>acted in such films as nineteen fifty four is Magnificent Obsession,

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty Three's For Whom the Bell Tolls, nineteen fifty

0:36:57.560 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>ones His Kind of Woman, and nineteen forty four is

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>The Mask of Demetrios, which has been on my radar

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>before because it also features Peter Lori. He was also

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen sixty two underwater adventure film titled Mermaids

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>of Tiburon. I like what you say about him adding

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:18.840
<v Speaker 1>in free pathos. Yeah, now that you mentioned that, I'm

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 1>thinking back on lines where you know, they didn't really

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 1>ask him to to to struggle while he's delivering, but

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>he does. Yeah. Yeah, And I would say there's more

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>free pathos from uh Selena Royal who plays mother in

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:39.600
<v Speaker 1>this it's her only name, she's mother, yeah, professor mother Gilligan. Yeah,

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:42.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean in the in the post apocalyptic healthscape of Earth,

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:44.359
<v Speaker 1>what else do you need? You're the only mother on

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>the planet. You're just mother, I guess. Yeah. There there's

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>a scene where uh John Milong gets on a zoom

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>call with Roman and he's like, let me show you

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the members of my family. Surely you won't want to

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 1>destroy them. And he puts up a picture of of

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.959
<v Speaker 1>Selena Royal here and he's like, look, how how could

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:05.319
<v Speaker 1>you want to hurt my wife here? And Romance is like, oh,

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the mother brings more generations of the human race. She

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>must be stopped. Oh, and You're like boo, you just

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.720
<v Speaker 1>want to boo Roman most of the time. So anyway,

0:38:14.840 --> 0:38:18.800
<v Speaker 1>Selena Royal Here American actress of stage, radio, television, and film.

0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>She was daughter of a Broadway playwright, so unsurprisingly she

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>started out as a stage actor. She also did radio

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.759
<v Speaker 1>work and just a little bit of film work in

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>the thirties. During the forties she became more active in film,

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>mostly with maternal supporting roles, but some notable stuff. She

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 1>played Joan of ARC's mother in Victor Flemings Joan of

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Arc film starring Ingrid Bergmann and um Jose Ferreir. Oh,

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen that one. Yeah, I haven't either, but

0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, it's it's it's one of the classics.

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Her screen and TV career, however, came to on the

0:38:51.239 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>end not long after Robot Monster, with her last credits

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>in the mid fifties. But then she became a writer,

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:02.800
<v Speaker 1>often covering cooking and culture in Guadalajara. She apparently moved

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>to Mexico with her husband after she became blacklisted in

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood during the McCarthy era. The FBI had her classified

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 1>as a quote unquote concealed Communist, even though it's from

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 1>what I was reading, it seems like there was little

0:39:16.840 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to no evidence that she was anything of the Sword

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:23.040
<v Speaker 1>she was I think involved in some progressive and humanitarian causes,

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 1>and she remained involved in humanitarian work in Guadalajara until

0:39:26.640 --> 0:39:29.839
<v Speaker 1>her death. Oh yeah, I think that's often how it went. Yeah.

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Now they're children in this as well. There's Johnny and

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:39.240
<v Speaker 1>there's Carla. Johnny was played by Gregory Moffat, borne various

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.960
<v Speaker 1>fifties TV and film appearances in his filmography, including one

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 1>episode of the Adventures of Superman. I gotta say, I

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be mean to a child actor, but

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I have to say it. Johnny has bully vibes. Johnny

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>seems like the kid who would come on the playground

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and like, I don't know, tell you, like he'd say,

0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>like your dad's poor or something really vicious. M Well,

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, Johnny's been through a lot, so maybe we

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>have to cut him a little bit of slack. But um,

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Carla is played by Pamela Paulson. This is her only

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 1>actual film credit, I think, um, as far as I know,

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>she was not blacklisted for being a suspected communist. Hey, hey, wait, okay,

0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 1>so we we enjoy all the human actors here, but

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the real star of the show, in my book, is

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:27.319
<v Speaker 1>the voice of Roman. Oh okay, yeah, the voice of Roman. Uh.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>That is John Brown, who have nineteen or fourth through

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:33.239
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty seven is a British actor who appeared in

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 1>such films as Alfred Hitchcock's one movie Strangers on a Train.

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>And he was also a victim of the Hollywood Blacklist,

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>so his his credits definitely dry up and vanish and

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the mid fifties. Well that's a bummer because I love

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:52.720
<v Speaker 1>his monotone delivery that the I cannot yet I must.

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's what gives the movie the soul it has,

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 1>of course, in addition to the physical performance of Roman,

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:03.440
<v Speaker 1>which is also wonderful. Oh yes, and this is George

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:09.759
<v Speaker 1>Barrows who have nineteen fourteen through nineteen um, So this

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>is our guerrilla suit guy. I always love focusing on

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>guerrilla suit guys, even though I don't know that we've

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 1>watched a lot of like true guerrilla movies, but uh yeah,

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:24.399
<v Speaker 1>George Barrows certainly played a lot of guerrillas in his time.

0:41:24.400 --> 0:41:26.759
<v Speaker 1>He played some human roles as well. He had to

0:41:26.840 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of look up pictures of me. Had kind of

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a meaty, beefy face that's perfect for like that bit

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>part cop or or heavy that shows up in a

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 1>in a picture. But he became a a leading guerrilla man, uh,

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>playing guerrillas in such films as nineteen sixties six is

0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the Ghost in the Invisible Bikini, nineteen sixty seven Hillbillies

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 1>in a Haunted House. I think I've seen that one,

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.560
<v Speaker 1>and nineteen fifty four is Guerilla at Large. I've seen

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 1>ghost in the Invisible Bikini. It's not what you would

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:00.120
<v Speaker 1>think it is. Yeah, but there is a guerrilla I

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.439
<v Speaker 1>think so, yeah, okay. Uh. He was also a TV

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>guerrilla on such shows as The Adams Family, The Beverly Hillbillies,

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>The Incredible Hulk, and The Night Gallery episode Hatred unto Death,

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 1>which I do not remember but definitely has a gorilla

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 1>in it now. Root Stude notes that Barrows was a

0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>serious guerrilla man. I think it's it's easy to think

0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>about a gorilla suit man in a movie like this

0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 1>and think like, all right, they found a guy that

0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.799
<v Speaker 1>paid him. He put on the guerrilla suit and they said, okay,

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>let's shoot the picture. But no, no, no no, this is

0:42:29.000 --> 0:42:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a guy who took his role very seriously. He made

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 1>his own suit. He studied guerrillas at the zoo and

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.560
<v Speaker 1>was said to be one of the last like real

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood guerilla men of his era, like someone who actually

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.640
<v Speaker 1>tried to act like a gorilla in the suit. Now

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.359
<v Speaker 1>that being said, we've as we've already pointed out, this

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:52.000
<v Speaker 1>is not a true guerrilla role because it's most of

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>a gorilla costume. But then with the space helmet, and

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>also the Roman is not moving around like a gorilla.

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.120
<v Speaker 1>He's moving more less like a human. But like they're

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>definite characteristics to the suit that are undeniable, like the

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 1>their arm extensions to simulate the proportions of an actual guerrilla.

0:43:09.480 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>It's made with yak here, so it looks like some

0:43:13.120 --> 0:43:16.759
<v Speaker 1>sort of a beast um. According to ruin Stad, this

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.279
<v Speaker 1>reportedly cost him a good four hundred dollars to make,

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 1>and even that the mask of his guerrilla suit, which

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>again is not in this picture, was made using a

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>plaster cast of his own face. If you can show

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 1>me a more lovingly made extraterrestrial ape board costume, I

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>would like I would like to see it. Um. He

0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 1>also points out that, according to classic horror memorabilia collector

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Rob Burns, Barrows was second only to the legendary Charlie

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Gomera when it came to guerrilla suit men. Now we

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.279
<v Speaker 1>haven't watched a proper Charlie Goamura guerrilla picture, but I

0:43:49.320 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 1>believe he came up in our episode on Dr Cyclops

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 1>because he did make up on that picture. But he

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:57.480
<v Speaker 1>played a lot of guerrillas in his time, so he

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>took his job seriously. Barrows did, uh, but not so

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 1>seriously that he wouldn't appear in a movie like this.

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:05.880
<v Speaker 1>He apparently had a very sort of blue collar approach, like,

0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>if you want a guerilla man, uh, there's a set

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 1>cost and and he'll show up. He'll be your guerilla man.

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 1>Here's my price sheet. Yeah, yeah, finally, real quick. We

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 1>keep mentioning that, of course, this is not a pure

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>guerrilla creature. It has the head of a spaceman, a

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:32.799
<v Speaker 1>space helmet, routes. That also explores this whole decision quite

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>a bit. Apparently they knew a guerrilla suit was doable,

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:37.719
<v Speaker 1>that this is something they could do. There was a

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>guy they could hire, and they initially thought about making

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 1>an alien via some horns or something, but then came

0:44:44.200 --> 0:44:47.800
<v Speaker 1>back around to the space helmet idea. But at earlier

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:49.919
<v Speaker 1>points in the creation of the script. They were also

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about the idea of a robot gorilla, So there

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>seems to be a lot of back and forth here. Here,

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe we should address a question, very important question. Is

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Roman a robot? Ah, this is a tough one. I've

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:06.640
<v Speaker 1>spent a lot of time in the last twenty four

0:45:06.680 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>hours thinking about this, and and on and off I've

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 1>thought of it over the years. I was lying awake

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>all night just thinking about the body of Romance, like,

0:45:17.239 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 1>is that guerrilla body his body? Is it some sort

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:24.919
<v Speaker 1>of an organic BioSuit that this alien has grown and

0:45:25.080 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>or or like strapped on like some sort of a

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>biomech to use. And then of course what's going on

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>with the helmet, right, is that the what's that that

0:45:35.719 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>murky face we see inside? Is that like some sort

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>of featurealist flesh mass um or we're just not supposed

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.799
<v Speaker 1>to see anything. Is it indeed a skull? Because the

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 1>poster art for the for the film is pretty great

0:45:48.400 --> 0:45:51.319
<v Speaker 1>as well, and it definitely goes the extra step of

0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 1>making the head inside the space mask as a skull,

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>which just adds to this ambiguity about what this creature

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 1>really is, and apparently it's it's unsure where this idea

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:04.439
<v Speaker 1>came from. It might have been the producer saying, hey,

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:06.359
<v Speaker 1>play up the skull thing, or it might have been

0:46:06.360 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>the poster artist deciding to embellish it with this kind

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:14.240
<v Speaker 1>of skull motif as well. I perceived the head inside

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 1>the space helmet as more like a it's sort of

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.640
<v Speaker 1>covered in a kind of amorphous putty, kind of like

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>when a person's head becomes covered in the blob in

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>the blob. Alright, alright, so it's possible that the Roman

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.360
<v Speaker 1>is just a blob piloting there's a weird flesh and

0:46:33.400 --> 0:46:37.440
<v Speaker 1>metal suit. Maybe I don't know, a furry creature who

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 1>they've been wearing space on it so long that they've

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:44.359
<v Speaker 1>evolved to have like a fleshless putty head. Or maybe

0:46:44.400 --> 0:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>they just have a fleshless head in general, because there

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:49.280
<v Speaker 1>was some sort of scavenging creature and their evolutionary history

0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and therefore lost here on their head. I don't know

0:46:51.640 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that you're can go crazy thinking about this. This is

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>probably an overly specific reference, but I just realized that

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Roman in a way, especially the helmet, reminds me of

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the final enemies that you face in the

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:08.319
<v Speaker 1>the horror video games. Soma, which is one of the

0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>last ones is in this base down at the bottom

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 1>of the ocean. It's the one in like the diving

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 1>suit that's got sort of the goop coming out of

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the pressure helmet. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. They definitely

0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 1>had a goop consistency to that that game, some sort

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:25.640
<v Speaker 1>of like healing goop that went crazy or something. Mm hmm.

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:28.319
<v Speaker 1>The fabulous thing about the romance here is that all

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:32.319
<v Speaker 1>interpretations are valid. There's no there's no definitive answer, just

0:47:32.480 --> 0:47:36.719
<v Speaker 1>maddening ambiguity. Alright. Finally, a note on the music. Um So,

0:47:36.800 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't say that that I love the music in

0:47:39.040 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 1>this film. It's it's interesting. It has some some neat piano,

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess, some perhaps overly whimsical moments for the kids,

0:47:48.000 --> 0:47:52.040
<v Speaker 1>and of course some some pretty fabulous nineteen fifties monster brass.

0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, the monsters coming at you. You're gonna hear

0:47:54.560 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 1>that brass blaring. Dun't dunt dunt dunt dunt Uh. Yeah, exactly.

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing. The score for this film is

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 1>by a pretty legendary individual, Elmer Bernstein, who lived through

0:48:10.280 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and four. Uh, highly prolific, highly influential film

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.399
<v Speaker 1>composer and conductor. Something like a hundred and fifty film

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>scores during his career, and they cover a fair amount

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>of range. So Robot Monster was I think only his

0:48:23.000 --> 0:48:25.880
<v Speaker 1>fourth score, but he went on to compose the scores

0:48:25.920 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 1>for such films as The Ten Commandments and fifty six,

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>The Magnificent Seven, To Kill a mocking Bird, The Great Escape,

0:48:33.400 --> 0:48:35.759
<v Speaker 1>and then on into the seventies and eighties stuff like

0:48:35.800 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 1>Animal House, Airplane, Heavy Metal, Trading Places, Ghostbusters, and then

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 1>once you get into the nineties, wild Wild West, as

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:48.320
<v Speaker 1>in we're going straight to yeah. Yeah. Uh. He received

0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>an Academy Award for a thoroughly modern Millie and Sixties

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:54.720
<v Speaker 1>seven that was a musical romantic comedy that starred Julie Andrews,

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Mary Tyler Moore, and Carol Channing, directed by George roy

0:48:57.680 --> 0:49:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Hill and um Rensta notes that while he wasn't blacklisted,

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 1>he did have leftist associations that were quotes stalling his

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 1>career at the time. Okay, so at this point in

0:49:10.640 --> 0:49:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the Robot Monster casting crew, how many blacklisted or almost

0:49:15.200 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 1>blacklisted figures are we at It's several, Yeah, and it's

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:23.360
<v Speaker 1>possible there's sort of two interpretations of this. Apparently, according

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>to Rinsta, there's it's on one level, people who are

0:49:27.239 --> 0:49:30.919
<v Speaker 1>having trouble with the with the with being blacklisted, where

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 1>they were just having harder time getting work, and so

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:35.080
<v Speaker 1>there therefore they might have just been more available to

0:49:35.120 --> 0:49:37.959
<v Speaker 1>a project of this caliber. But then it's also thought

0:49:38.000 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 1>that the producer might have been sympathetic as well, and

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 1>that could have been a potential in as well, like

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:47.399
<v Speaker 1>sympathetic to these individuals who were suddenly having a real

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>hard time finding any work to sustain themselves. All Right.

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 1>The final thing, I want a rare location note on

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:58.760
<v Speaker 1>this film because this is another Bronson Canyon film. Wait

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:04.239
<v Speaker 1>a minute, did ronson Canyon feature in another movie? We didn't? Oh,

0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:07.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was Attack of the Crab Monsters I'm thinking of. Well,

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:09.800
<v Speaker 1>it is definitely a location that was used for Attack

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:11.799
<v Speaker 1>of the Crab Monsters, but it was also used in

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:15.240
<v Speaker 1>the Return from nineteen eighty, which we covered on the show. Okay,

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:18.640
<v Speaker 1>but this is basically this is a section of Griffith

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Park in Los Angeles that it's just been used tons

0:50:21.600 --> 0:50:25.600
<v Speaker 1>of time, including but not limited to White Zombie from

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:28.479
<v Speaker 1>thirty two, Invasion of the Body Snatchers from fifty six.

0:50:28.920 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 1>He Conquered the World from fifty six as well, that

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty famously includes perhaps the exact same cave that we

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:39.000
<v Speaker 1>see in this picture. Uh, that's where he learned, only

0:50:39.000 --> 0:50:42.040
<v Speaker 1>too late that man is a feeling creature the very one.

0:50:42.320 --> 0:50:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Um also teenage cave Man from fifty eight. Um, just

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a ton of films. Friday the Thirteenth, Part six, Jason

0:50:48.920 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Lives Um Star Trek, the Undiscovered Country, Army of Darkness,

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Scorpion King, Hail Caesar. Um. That one probably is a

0:50:57.400 --> 0:51:00.440
<v Speaker 1>nod to this location's importance and in Holly with But yeah,

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:02.839
<v Speaker 1>if you're filming in l A and you need some

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:07.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of a desert E canyon, eh cave sort of environment,

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:08.840
<v Speaker 1>like this is where you went, this is where you

0:51:08.920 --> 0:51:11.360
<v Speaker 1>filmed your scenes. That makes a lot of sense because

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:13.399
<v Speaker 1>there are scenes at the very beginning where it looks

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:16.720
<v Speaker 1>like it's about two children playing unsupervised in the middle

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:22.279
<v Speaker 1>of the Mojave desert. Yeah, Okay, you're ready to talk plot. Yes, Yes,

0:51:22.360 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Wait wait, hold on. Before we get

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:26.760
<v Speaker 1>into the plot, we have to talk about the credit sequence.

0:51:26.800 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Because we just did a series of core episodes about

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.879
<v Speaker 1>the idea of horror vakawi, which in art is often

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:37.280
<v Speaker 1>used to describe an impulse to overly clutter your design,

0:51:37.360 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to fill it in with too much detail, not leave

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 1>enough blank space. And the credit sequence here, it's got

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a background, so like the credits are appearing as text

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:50.640
<v Speaker 1>on a background that's a bunch of it looks like

0:51:50.719 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 1>comic book covers that themselves have text on them, And

0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.799
<v Speaker 1>it's a nightmare. Yeah, and now I guess that one

0:51:57.840 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 1>level we need to remind ourselves this was a three

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.319
<v Speaker 1>D picture or so I'm guessing these these letters were

0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:05.200
<v Speaker 1>jumping out at us off the screen. But still, yes,

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>very busy looking. Also, when they showed the Tide I

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:09.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is something about the transferre to

0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:13.040
<v Speaker 1>home video, but when they showed the title of the movie,

0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Robot Monster is not even remotely centered in frame, I'd

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 1>say it's a good thirty percent off. Oh yeah, I

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:22.880
<v Speaker 1>hadn't noticed that, but I noticed that, like you basically

0:52:22.880 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>have this pile of comic books in the background, like

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:28.840
<v Speaker 1>old tiny sci fi comic books, and the wording on

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 1>the comic book covers actually like kind of messes with

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:34.359
<v Speaker 1>the way you're perceiving the names of the characters because

0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:37.560
<v Speaker 1>they start doing stuff like starring George Nader as Roy.

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:41.160
<v Speaker 1>But it looks like starting George Nader as Fee Roy

0:52:41.239 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>because there's as it's superimposed over the word fear on

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:48.680
<v Speaker 1>one of these comic books. Yes, so it's f e

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:52.040
<v Speaker 1>a and then the name Roy, so it's Fi Roy.

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.879
<v Speaker 1>We get to see Claudia Barrett as Pie Alice. And

0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>oh and when they introduced these actors, they show like

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:01.680
<v Speaker 1>they give you a face, so the show you Roy

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and he's that rectangle. He looks like he's sort of

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 1>looking disapprovingly at some neighbors tacky Christmas decorations. But when

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you get to Claudia Barrett, oh, she has this dangerous smirk.

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:17.319
<v Speaker 1>She looks like she is in possession of your most

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>terrible secret and she's just watching you beg her not

0:53:20.600 --> 0:53:25.240
<v Speaker 1>to tell everyone. It's great. But anyway, that's the Alice

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:28.680
<v Speaker 1>we get. We get fee mother. Selena were recalling her

0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:32.440
<v Speaker 1>royal or royal earlier. I thought it was royal, but

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:35.839
<v Speaker 1>it could be royal. I'm not whichever it is. She's

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:38.800
<v Speaker 1>fee mother. Yeah, this is what this is where I

0:53:38.800 --> 0:53:40.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't notice that until just now as we were going

0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:43.080
<v Speaker 1>through the notes. But yeah, she's Selena Royal r O

0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 1>y l e um or at least that's the way

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I was pronouncing in my head. But her name in

0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:52.279
<v Speaker 1>the opening credits is Selena Royal r O y A

0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:56.439
<v Speaker 1>l E. So they misspelled it. They misspelled it um

0:53:56.760 --> 0:54:00.040
<v Speaker 1>unless Yeah, I mean, maybe this was a this have

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 1>been another name she used as well. I mean to

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll give it the benefit of a doubt and say,

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:07.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe she was sometimes credited as this, But it's not

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:10.239
<v Speaker 1>uncommon for pictures of this caliber to sometimes you use

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:14.480
<v Speaker 1>somebody's name with a inventive spelling. It's true. And I

0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:17.680
<v Speaker 1>love how the credit sequence also gives a credit for

0:54:17.760 --> 0:54:20.959
<v Speaker 1>the automatic billion bubble machine. Oh yeah, well, you gotta

0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:23.360
<v Speaker 1>give credit where credits due. It's an amazing bubble machine.

0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:27.640
<v Speaker 1>So the film opens. The action opens on a bloodthirsty

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 1>alien cyboard clambering over a hilltop in the desert. He's

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 1>wearing a bubbletop helmet affixed with atmosphere hoses, and he's

0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:38.319
<v Speaker 1>got a pistol grip death ray and he's got that

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:41.360
<v Speaker 1>raised up in one hand. And wait a minute, that

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:43.800
<v Speaker 1>is not an alien. It is just a child wearing

0:54:43.800 --> 0:54:46.319
<v Speaker 1>a suit he's playing with toys and he's pointing the

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 1>ray gun at his sister, and as he comes up,

0:54:49.600 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 1>there is Nana Nana Boo boo music playing. It's the

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:57.320
<v Speaker 1>same song that plays in uh in the Mexican Santa

0:54:57.320 --> 0:55:01.879
<v Speaker 1>clause when the when pitch the demon is doing his antics. Yeah,

0:55:01.920 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 1>it's an annoying song. And thank god, most of the

0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:07.960
<v Speaker 1>score for this film it does not revolve around this

0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.279
<v Speaker 1>little ditty here. Yeah, but so what are the what

0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:14.720
<v Speaker 1>are the opening lines? We get? Oh? Yeah, so Carla

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:17.600
<v Speaker 1>asked her brother. She says, am I dead? And Johnny says,

0:55:17.840 --> 0:55:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you're disintegrated. I love how morbid. Johnny is, uh, well,

0:55:23.480 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, she goes, good, does that mean we can

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:29.840
<v Speaker 1>play house now? You promised? But Johnny only wants to

0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:34.520
<v Speaker 1>play House of alien slaughter? Uh. And so he's he's

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:38.880
<v Speaker 1>blowing bubbles and they go around the corner again. It

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:40.719
<v Speaker 1>looks like they're in the middle of the desert, but

0:55:40.760 --> 0:55:42.960
<v Speaker 1>they end up finding a couple of adults, these two

0:55:42.960 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 1>men who are standing in a cave under these desert cliffs,

0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:49.640
<v Speaker 1>and the kids come up to them and Johnny says,

0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 1>you must die, and the professor, the older guy there's

0:55:54.280 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 1>an older guy, younger guy, the younger guys, Roy, the

0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:59.799
<v Speaker 1>older guys, the professor, and uh, professor says, wouldn't it

0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:03.359
<v Speaker 1>be nicer if we could live in peace with each other? Uh?

0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:06.400
<v Speaker 1>And uh, So Johnny kind of he seems disappointed by this,

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:08.279
<v Speaker 1>but he accepts, but he says he still has to

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:11.040
<v Speaker 1>know who they are and what they're doing there. And

0:56:11.200 --> 0:56:15.320
<v Speaker 1>a bizarre conversation follows. So the older man in the cave,

0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 1>this is John Milong is the professor. He has an

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Austrian accent, and he sits the boy on his lap,

0:56:20.560 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 1>and he explains that he and Roy are archaeologists, and

0:56:24.239 --> 0:56:26.439
<v Speaker 1>he says they try to find out what men were

0:56:26.520 --> 0:56:30.000
<v Speaker 1>like back before they could read or write. He says, quote,

0:56:30.040 --> 0:56:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the only way to pass on what they knew were

0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 1>through pictures like this one. And I guess they're referring

0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to cave paintings, but you can't really see any in

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the movie. Yeah, there's just some looks like they painted

0:56:40.840 --> 0:56:43.920
<v Speaker 1>some of the rocks in there, right, And so Roy says, Uh,

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Roy's the younger guy. He's in the leather jacket, and

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:49.240
<v Speaker 1>he says, our job is to chip it out carefully

0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and take it to a museum, and then Johnny says, gee,

0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:56.479
<v Speaker 1>are you scientists? And uh, the Roy's like even better

0:56:56.520 --> 0:57:00.520
<v Speaker 1>than being cowboys a professor, but so john he asks

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 1>if the cave painting was a spaceman, and the professor says,

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.359
<v Speaker 1>as far as we know, there were no spacemen at

0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:11.600
<v Speaker 1>those times, and no robots either. So they're having fun.

0:57:11.719 --> 0:57:15.120
<v Speaker 1>But then the fund's over. Here comes Johnny's family. Johnny says,

0:57:15.120 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 1>here come my mother and my sister, and then he

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 1>turns to Roy and he says, I bet you'd like her,

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I guess, referring to his older sister Alice. Who Uh Alice,

0:57:24.800 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 1>she comes up and Roy says, no doubt. Uh. So

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Johnny is immediately trying to set his older sister up

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 1>with Roy the archaeologist. But the situation is that Johnny

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and Carla have to go back and take a nap

0:57:36.880 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 1>after lunch because their family is out here on a picnic.

0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:42.200
<v Speaker 1>And then we see where they have been set up

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 1>for a picnic, and I laughed out loud when I

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 1>saw this. They've got a blanket spread out on the

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:52.480
<v Speaker 1>like surrounded by jagged rocks, and Johnny says, if we

0:57:52.520 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 1>ever get a new dad. I hope he's a big

0:57:54.560 --> 0:57:58.560
<v Speaker 1>scientist that makes rocket chips and things like that. Uh.

0:57:58.600 --> 0:58:01.000
<v Speaker 1>And then they I guess, they settled down for a nap,

0:58:01.040 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 1>which literally means they just lay down on the ground

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:07.360
<v Speaker 1>around this blanket, surrounded by jagged rocks. And at this

0:58:07.400 --> 0:58:09.560
<v Speaker 1>point in the film you think, all right, I'm following this.

0:58:09.680 --> 0:58:13.200
<v Speaker 1>I know what's going on. And then this film hits

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:17.120
<v Speaker 1>you with this first major swerve. They're like, yes, the

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:20.040
<v Speaker 1>action is too clear. Let's let's start getting confusing. So

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Johnny wakes up from the nap, he jogs off. He

0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:25.040
<v Speaker 1>returns to the cave, I guess to hang out with

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:28.720
<v Speaker 1>his archaeologist buddies, but they're not there, and he is

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:32.640
<v Speaker 1>knocked over by the shaking of the earth. And then

0:58:32.720 --> 0:58:36.320
<v Speaker 1>we get a cataclysm montage. We see lightning, we see

0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:39.240
<v Speaker 1>balls of fire in the sky burning the atmosphere away.

0:58:39.640 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Then we see lizards with fins and other things glued

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:47.320
<v Speaker 1>to them fighting. Uh. To be clear, I'm not positive,

0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:49.440
<v Speaker 1>but it looks like some animals may have been harmed

0:58:49.440 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 1>in the making of this film. Well, I think these

0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:55.640
<v Speaker 1>these films are this is this is footage from previous films.

0:58:55.640 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 1>There are a couple of a couple of these are acts,

0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:00.320
<v Speaker 1>so I think they're just reusing something from the films.

0:59:00.360 --> 0:59:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I forget which ones, but they're sided in like Michael

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Welton's book. Okay, well, anyway, there's something that looks like

0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 1>two lizards fighting. I can't tell if they're alive or

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:13.040
<v Speaker 1>if they're like stuffed lizards or whatever, but they've got

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:15.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff taped to them to make them look like dinosaurs,

0:59:15.600 --> 0:59:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Like one has a dimetridn style finback. Yeah, why are

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.400
<v Speaker 1>there dinosaurs fighting? I still don't know, and I saw

0:59:33.080 --> 0:59:36.320
<v Speaker 1>all right, So Johnny after that wakes up. I don't

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 1>know if he was supposed to have witnessed the dinosaurs

0:59:38.840 --> 0:59:41.480
<v Speaker 1>fighting or something, and he doesn't comment on it. He

0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:44.560
<v Speaker 1>wakes up seemingly from his fall after the Earth's shack,

0:59:44.600 --> 0:59:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and he's still in front of the cave. But now

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:48.800
<v Speaker 1>things are a little different. We've got a side table

0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:51.200
<v Speaker 1>with some random technology on it. There's like a real

0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:54.320
<v Speaker 1>to real player and something with some antennae coming up

0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:59.040
<v Speaker 1>off of it, and then a bubble machine just blowing bubbles. Also,

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Johnny is dressed differently. Did you notice this? He's wearing

1:00:01.840 --> 1:00:04.560
<v Speaker 1>shorts now, I did not notice the change in vance.

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:08.120
<v Speaker 1>So Johnny comes to, he looks around, then he hides

1:00:08.200 --> 1:00:12.160
<v Speaker 1>behind a rock, and here comes our Roman reveal. Out

1:00:12.200 --> 1:00:17.800
<v Speaker 1>of the cave comes this thick, awesome, hulking guerrilla suit

1:00:17.880 --> 1:00:21.480
<v Speaker 1>man with a with a space helmet on, and he

1:00:21.520 --> 1:00:24.640
<v Speaker 1>comes out. He looks around, and before we really even

1:00:24.640 --> 1:00:26.680
<v Speaker 1>get a chance to take this in, he's getting onto

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<v Speaker 1>the viewscreen to make a call. So this will be

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<v Speaker 1>our first view screen interface scene, and there are tons

1:00:32.240 --> 1:00:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of them in the movie. Basically, they are zoom calls

1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:39.000
<v Speaker 1>in a bathroom mirror between Roman and his boss, who

1:00:39.080 --> 1:00:41.960
<v Speaker 1>is referred to as the Great One or Great Guidance

1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:46.200
<v Speaker 1>or Guidance Roman, and they will they will recur throughout

1:00:46.240 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the movie. About half of the run time is Roman

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<v Speaker 1>getting chewed out by his boss for failing to exterminate

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<v Speaker 1>all of the humans. And clearly these scenes were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they were filmed without the voiceover, So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of gesticulating of rilla suits with with space helmets on,

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<v Speaker 1>shaking of hands with fingers outstretched, but it's obvious that

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<v Speaker 1>the hand is not in that hand part of the suit. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're again they're extended to give the the original

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<v Speaker 1>costume guerrilla like proportions, so just rubber fingers waggling as

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<v Speaker 1>the handshakes. But the viewscreen comes on, we see some

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<v Speaker 1>chicken nuggets flying around through space. I think they're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be asteroids. And then here comes a guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same costume as Roman on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just Roman talking to Roman, and it is

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<v Speaker 1>hard to communicate without just playing back a sample. How

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<v Speaker 1>funny the cadence of the Roman on Roman dialogue is

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<v Speaker 1>so like Roman checks in, he says extension Roman x

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<v Speaker 1>J two, reporting to guidance Roman, I salute you and

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<v Speaker 1>the other guy you know, you're late fourteen minutes. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're just always. Um. I was trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>of how to describe this, and I did come up

1:02:01.480 --> 1:02:04.040
<v Speaker 1>with a comparison. They have a similar kind of loud,

1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:09.840
<v Speaker 1>stabby but monotonous line delivery to the cone heads. M

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<v Speaker 1>M yeah, yeah, yeah, which I guess, I guess we

1:02:12.640 --> 1:02:16.800
<v Speaker 1>can sort of, I mean, undoubtedly, um Dan Ackroyd was

1:02:16.840 --> 1:02:20.280
<v Speaker 1>familiar with Robot Monster. Yes, maybe it was a direct

1:02:20.320 --> 1:02:23.000
<v Speaker 1>reference there. So we get some backstory about what's going

1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:27.280
<v Speaker 1>on here. We discovered that the guidance Roman, he divulges

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<v Speaker 1>that no life has been discovered on other planets. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess they were looking. So he says Earth is their

1:02:32.560 --> 1:02:36.880
<v Speaker 1>only rival, and then Romance says the human knew of

1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:41.280
<v Speaker 1>atomic energy, but had not mastered the cosmic ray. So

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<v Speaker 1>Roman explains that he used something called the Calcinator ray

1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to attack Earth, and then the Earth nations thought the

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<v Speaker 1>attack came from other Earth nations, so they retaliated against

1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:58.120
<v Speaker 1>each other and they all destroyed each other with nuclear weapons.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Romance says after that they tried to band

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<v Speaker 1>together against him. He says, quote, their resistance pattern showed

1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:10.360
<v Speaker 1>some intelligence, but all are gone now. So at this

1:03:10.440 --> 1:03:13.320
<v Speaker 1>point I was Rachel and I were watching this and

1:03:13.320 --> 1:03:17.439
<v Speaker 1>we're like, what what? How much time has elapsed here?

1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:20.520
<v Speaker 1>It just looks like Johnny falls over. Then he gets up,

1:03:20.880 --> 1:03:24.400
<v Speaker 1>and now here's Roman talking about what sounds like something

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<v Speaker 1>you know would have taken months of intervening time. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I I had to just quickly abandon the earlier portion

1:03:31.040 --> 1:03:32.640
<v Speaker 1>of the film and be like, this is the reality

1:03:32.680 --> 1:03:35.000
<v Speaker 1>we're in now. I can't I've got enough to contend with.

1:03:35.080 --> 1:03:36.959
<v Speaker 1>I can't try and figure out how the first part

1:03:37.000 --> 1:03:40.520
<v Speaker 1>factors into where we are now. But yeah, because suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>we are in this post apocalyptic hellscape and it's this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that Ringstad discusses a little bit, like this

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<v Speaker 1>is really early for I mean, this isn't the first

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<v Speaker 1>time that in the wake of the close of World

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<v Speaker 1>War two that you had fiction or film dealing with

1:03:58.440 --> 1:04:02.320
<v Speaker 1>like a post apocalypt it setting. But it's pretty early,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is this is not long after the first

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<v Speaker 1>use of nuclear weaponry on Earth. Yeah, and already at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in the movie, all the Earth things are

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<v Speaker 1>gone as far as we know, except for Johnny. Oh yeah,

1:04:15.160 --> 1:04:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean we get it. We hear from the Roman

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<v Speaker 1>himself who's like there are eight survivors or there's some

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<v Speaker 1>disagreement on how many survivors, but it seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>agreed upon that we're not talking about more than eight humans. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>First Romance says that he's eliminated all the humans, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the guidance Romance says, I want facts, not words. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're really they're just they're main spirited and severe

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<v Speaker 1>on everything. Like at this point the human species is

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<v Speaker 1>effectively extinct. I mean, there's no coming back from this.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're like no, we must destroy them, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Roman tries to defend himself. He's like, my scans indicate

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<v Speaker 1>no life life forms above lepidoptera level exists, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, what lepidoptera moths and butterflies? Oh man, we

1:05:01.400 --> 1:05:03.000
<v Speaker 1>don't say. I don't remember seeing a mouth or a

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<v Speaker 1>better flying the film, though it's other regions. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how he's ranking them though, what is

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<v Speaker 1>above and below leopid optera? Anyway, the boss Roman is like, uh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>find and destroy the eight remaining humans and then report back.

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<v Speaker 1>So we see Roman, uh, you know, he'd uh, he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get to work, and so he sets his bubble

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<v Speaker 1>machine going full blast, and then Johnny runs off to

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere to somewhere, back home, presumably to his family, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just more commenced intense brain pain, Rob, can you

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<v Speaker 1>try to describe what a baffling puzzle box begins to

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<v Speaker 1>emerge in the next scene about like what what the

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<v Speaker 1>time frame of the movie is, What are the family

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<v Speaker 1>relationships the living arrangements? Like yeah, because they're just living

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<v Speaker 1>in straight ruins here, just like direct sunlight ruins. There

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<v Speaker 1>are no roofs that I remember seeing and everything is

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<v Speaker 1>protected by this kind of electromagnetic field or slash VNS

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<v Speaker 1>that the professor has installed, and they're just clearly really

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<v Speaker 1>scraping by. And several times in the film the performances

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<v Speaker 1>really speak to this like they're supposed to be a

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<v Speaker 1>feeling of of desperation here, that this is humanity in

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<v Speaker 1>its final days for real. But there's also stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't comport with that at all, like Roy and Alice

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<v Speaker 1>having this laugh inducing romance. Uh. But the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>about the family relationships, So the mother and the professor

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<v Speaker 1>are now Ma and pa, and I think maybe we're

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that such time has passed that the two

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<v Speaker 1>archaeologists have been incorporated into Johnny and Carlos family. So

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<v Speaker 1>mother and the professor are now married, and now the

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<v Speaker 1>professor is just Johnny's paw. I guess, yeah, okay, I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what. But they don't explain that any time has passed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like that now. So there's that. But then

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<v Speaker 1>also we are told about all of this technology expertise,

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<v Speaker 1>Like we find out from the professor that uh that

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<v Speaker 1>they think the Roman hasn't been able to locate them

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<v Speaker 1>because the professor and Alice were able to rig up

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<v Speaker 1>these deflector beams that are like these electrical wires that

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<v Speaker 1>surround their shelter which protect them from romance scanning rays.

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<v Speaker 1>And wasn't the professor an archaeologist, Yeah, that's what we

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<v Speaker 1>were told earlier. But he's also apparently a like a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear engineer or whatever. Yeah, I mean maybe he's just

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<v Speaker 1>a quick study and he he got some books. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had some time to to bone up on

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<v Speaker 1>everything in the days immediately following the apocalypse. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing you were calling a puzzle box. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just like so much is coming out so fast, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like not what it was in the scene just before,

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<v Speaker 1>with no explanation for why it's different. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>just have to, like moment to moment in this film

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<v Speaker 1>except the change and roll with it or to whatever

1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:19.519
<v Speaker 1>degree is possible, try and stitch together in your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, you either have to be all in on

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<v Speaker 1>following the the meandering plot of this film, or you

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<v Speaker 1>have to just shut off half your brain and take

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<v Speaker 1>it at like drive in value. Yeah. So Johnny reports

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<v Speaker 1>to his family the proximity of Roman. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just over in the cave. He's really close to

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<v Speaker 1>our house and that's obviously distressing to everyone. And Johnny suggests,

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<v Speaker 1>let's kill him, let's kill Romance. And the Professor says,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't do that. He's impervious to our weapons. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Alice says, unless we find his weak spot. Good thinking,

1:08:53.320 --> 1:08:57.080
<v Speaker 1>they've never had this conversation before. Exactly, Yeah, apparently they've

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<v Speaker 1>been part of a like resistance on Earth that was

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<v Speaker 1>fighting against Roman and they're all but defeated. They're the

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<v Speaker 1>only ones left, and now Alice has the idea, what

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<v Speaker 1>if we try to find his weak spot. We eventually

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<v Speaker 1>learned that, oh, it's not that fence that that they've

1:09:11.280 --> 1:09:14.599
<v Speaker 1>rigged up. There's protecting them. It's because the Professor develops

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of antibiotic to keep them all from catching

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<v Speaker 1>any diseases, and that is protecting them from the Romance

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<v Speaker 1>super weapons. Yes, the professor has developed an antibiotics serum.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the professor and Roy together, so two archaeologists

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<v Speaker 1>can do bioengineering. They can't antibiotics serum that protects them

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<v Speaker 1>against all diseases. Johnny explains that they can take capsules

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<v Speaker 1>that have quote a lot of bad bugs in them

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<v Speaker 1>and then they never get sick. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>But it just happens to turn out that this serum

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason protects them against romance scanning devices and weapons. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they eventually put this together and then we

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<v Speaker 1>get this wonderful setup that that they roll out here

1:10:02.640 --> 1:10:04.679
<v Speaker 1>in the film that that I I really loved and

1:10:04.680 --> 1:10:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I got really invested in for the brief period that

1:10:07.320 --> 1:10:10.360
<v Speaker 1>it was explored in the movie. They share that there

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<v Speaker 1>is a battalion of human space marines on an orbiting

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<v Speaker 1>spaceship that survived the all out attack on Earth and

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the subsequent wars. Uh. We later find

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<v Speaker 1>out that the Romance basically left them alone because they

1:10:25.080 --> 1:10:26.680
<v Speaker 1>were like, well, this could be useful when we come

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<v Speaker 1>to colonize the planet. We'll just leave that up there.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not doing any harm for some reason. They're they're

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<v Speaker 1>forgiving of this, but they can't let eight remaining humans

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<v Speaker 1>die out on the Earth, uh whatever. Fair enough. But

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<v Speaker 1>once our human survivors realize that it's the serum that's

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<v Speaker 1>protecting them, they're like, well, let's let's let's get us.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get one of these rocket ships is still laying around.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's Let's have a couple of folks hop on a

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<v Speaker 1>V two with this serum, take it up to the

1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:55.400
<v Speaker 1>space Marines. Then they'll be protected and bam, we can

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<v Speaker 1>begin this rebellion in earnest. Okay, good plan, right, Yes,

1:11:00.000 --> 1:11:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like that. Let's do that for the next half

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<v Speaker 1>of this film. But then oh, we get a call

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<v Speaker 1>from the Roman overlord here, the Viceroy of Earth, and

1:11:08.600 --> 1:11:11.080
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I figured out your plot. Watch what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to do. What does he do, of course, blows

1:11:13.000 --> 1:11:15.640
<v Speaker 1>up the V two rocket ship on its way to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the satellite, and we see what is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be like the space station satellite spinning out of

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<v Speaker 1>control and becoming devastated, and it's devastated as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>so and so he's just like, your your brilliant plan

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing, and everybody's really shaken up about it. And

1:11:32.080 --> 1:11:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I was a little shaken up to again trying to

1:11:35.280 --> 1:11:38.559
<v Speaker 1>become as invested as possible and Robot Monster and I

1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:40.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, I really thought they had

1:11:40.680 --> 1:11:42.320
<v Speaker 1>a they had a shot there. This seems like a

1:11:42.320 --> 1:11:45.960
<v Speaker 1>really good plan. And Roman is just completely destroyed all

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<v Speaker 1>their hope and they seem utterly hopeless. Now it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tragic setback. But during the scene where we watched the

1:11:51.479 --> 1:11:54.120
<v Speaker 1>space platform being destroyed, you can see somebody with a

1:11:54.160 --> 1:11:57.040
<v Speaker 1>gloved hand holding up the model as they move it around.

1:11:58.439 --> 1:12:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, oh I love that. But wait, Rob, you

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<v Speaker 1>actually skipped ahead a little bit because there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of zoom calls in this movie. Yes, Roman calls

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<v Speaker 1>them once before that call where he shows them that

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<v Speaker 1>he's blowing up the space station. Uh. He first calls

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<v Speaker 1>the family on their view screen, which appears to be

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<v Speaker 1>the only piece of furniture in their home, which, as

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<v Speaker 1>you said, is otherwise just a three wall concrete bunker

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<v Speaker 1>with no roof, exposed to the desert sun. And Romance says,

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<v Speaker 1>humans listen to me. Due to an error in calculation,

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<v Speaker 1>there are still a few of you left. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he's explaining how he's going to destroy them, and

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<v Speaker 1>he wants them to come surrender themselves to him and

1:12:38.120 --> 1:12:41.920
<v Speaker 1>he'll promise them a quick, painless death. But during this

1:12:42.000 --> 1:12:47.200
<v Speaker 1>conversation there is a bizarre side conversation, just like while

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<v Speaker 1>they're still on the phone with Roman, Romans just standing

1:12:50.000 --> 1:12:52.920
<v Speaker 1>there on the zoom screen, and they start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how because of the number of humans left alive that

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<v Speaker 1>Roman sites. They assume Roy must be dead because he's

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<v Speaker 1>not there with them, and uh. The professors like, I

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<v Speaker 1>never would have invented the serum without him, so I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he used his archaeology to help invent the serum

1:13:10.080 --> 1:13:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and uh. And Alice is like, oh, he you know,

1:13:14.120 --> 1:13:16.600
<v Speaker 1>we always struggled because he would never admit I was

1:13:16.640 --> 1:13:21.120
<v Speaker 1>good in my field, which is apparently like electrical engineering. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But but he you know, now she kind of misses him.

1:13:24.720 --> 1:13:27.400
<v Speaker 1>But in the middle of that, Roman interrupts them to say,

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<v Speaker 1>do you wonder what happened to all your fellows east time?

1:13:30.520 --> 1:13:33.639
<v Speaker 1>At other humans my calcinator beam and then he shows

1:13:33.640 --> 1:13:36.960
<v Speaker 1>stock footage of bombs. Uh. And then he tells them

1:13:37.000 --> 1:13:40.800
<v Speaker 1>their deaths will be indescribable and he logs off. And

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<v Speaker 1>after that there's a great conversation where the mother is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we should try to negotiate with Roman, but the

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<v Speaker 1>professor says, if he wants us, he should calculate us.

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<v Speaker 1>Rob what do you make of the fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>word calculate is used roughly five hundred times in this movie?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I mean, it's used correctly in

1:14:05.240 --> 1:14:07.959
<v Speaker 1>some places, but here I'm not sure what the professor

1:14:08.120 --> 1:14:12.040
<v Speaker 1>is saying, Like, wait, like he should negotiate with us. Well, yeah,

1:14:12.439 --> 1:14:15.519
<v Speaker 1>negotiations seems like the way to go. He should calculate us,

1:14:15.560 --> 1:14:19.240
<v Speaker 1>like what I count us? I think that means find us.

1:14:19.280 --> 1:14:25.000
<v Speaker 1>In this context, it almost is used to refer to

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of cognitive labor or activity of any kind.

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<v Speaker 1>So they used calculate to mean like think, and they

1:14:33.479 --> 1:14:38.160
<v Speaker 1>use calculate later, I think to mean outsmart so, and

1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:41.720
<v Speaker 1>we're getting a very broad usage of calculate, not not

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<v Speaker 1>usually in the way you would see it. All right,

1:14:52.960 --> 1:14:54.760
<v Speaker 1>but let's check back in with Roy. What's Roy been

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<v Speaker 1>up to? Oh? Roy, turns out he's spying on Romance.

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<v Speaker 1>So you go back to Romance cave and Roy is

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<v Speaker 1>behind a rock watching Roman do his thing. And Roy

1:15:03.200 --> 1:15:05.679
<v Speaker 1>he's got a T shirt on, tucked in T shirt

1:15:06.040 --> 1:15:07.960
<v Speaker 1>with a couple of big holes ripped in it, one

1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:11.479
<v Speaker 1>big nipple hole, one shoulder hole. And he's watching Roman

1:15:11.560 --> 1:15:14.360
<v Speaker 1>and his boss do another zoom call and it's more

1:15:14.479 --> 1:15:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the same stuff that like, the boss is chewing Roman out.

1:15:17.560 --> 1:15:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Roman says, I need guidance, great one. For the first

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<v Speaker 1>time in my life, I am not sure, and the

1:15:22.720 --> 1:15:25.759
<v Speaker 1>great one says, you sound like a human, not a Roman,

1:15:26.600 --> 1:15:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and uh, so Roy he watches all this and he

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<v Speaker 1>he comes back to the family alive, and well, uh

1:15:31.800 --> 1:15:33.679
<v Speaker 1>they're happy to see him, and he spills the beans

1:15:33.680 --> 1:15:36.639
<v Speaker 1>about Roman. He's like, Roman does not know where we are.

1:15:36.720 --> 1:15:38.880
<v Speaker 1>So this is the part where as you were talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>they planned to coordinate with the Space Platform, but in

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<v Speaker 1>order to do so, they have to rewire their view

1:15:45.960 --> 1:15:49.920
<v Speaker 1>screen the zoom call thing to contact the Space Platform.

1:15:50.000 --> 1:15:52.400
<v Speaker 1>And so Alice is an expert at this, but she

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<v Speaker 1>needs Roy to be her assistant, and this is fraught.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is tricky because whenever Roy needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>her assistant with electronics, he gets bossy. He tries to

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<v Speaker 1>be the boss and she tells him this and then

1:16:04.880 --> 1:16:08.160
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I'm bossy, and then this line throws for

1:16:08.160 --> 1:16:10.640
<v Speaker 1>a loop. He says, you're so bossy you ought to

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<v Speaker 1>be milked before you come home at night. Yeah, I

1:16:15.439 --> 1:16:18.519
<v Speaker 1>and I did not understand that. So we stopped and

1:16:18.560 --> 1:16:22.720
<v Speaker 1>looked this up. Apparently some people call their cows or

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<v Speaker 1>call their lead cow bossy. M m hmmm, I don't know.

1:16:28.120 --> 1:16:34.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah who that's perplexing whatever. I'm not familiar with this whatever,

1:16:34.600 --> 1:16:38.800
<v Speaker 1>but okay, hey, yeah farmers in the audience ship. There

1:16:38.800 --> 1:16:40.960
<v Speaker 1>were a lot of Westerns at this time, so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this is something you would know if you've watched a

1:16:43.120 --> 1:16:46.240
<v Speaker 1>lot of Westerns, which were extremely popular in the forties

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<v Speaker 1>and fifties. Right, So, Roy and Alice they get together

1:16:50.720 --> 1:16:54.840
<v Speaker 1>for some sassy, flirty electronics repair montages where we're just

1:16:54.880 --> 1:16:58.280
<v Speaker 1>watching like an electronics board and some hands doing things

1:16:58.400 --> 1:17:01.960
<v Speaker 1>on it, and they're doing voice over like, oh, solder,

1:17:02.040 --> 1:17:04.839
<v Speaker 1>my vacuum tube, You're too beautiful to be so smart.

1:17:05.240 --> 1:17:08.960
<v Speaker 1>One wonders if this this section was about stretching out

1:17:09.000 --> 1:17:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the runtime of the film to over an hour. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then finally they get it working, they get they

1:17:14.320 --> 1:17:16.760
<v Speaker 1>get tuned in, but unfortunately, this is the scene you

1:17:16.800 --> 1:17:19.439
<v Speaker 1>were talking about the Roman attack on the rocket ship

1:17:19.520 --> 1:17:23.080
<v Speaker 1>killing the other humans, and Romance shows them the attack

1:17:23.160 --> 1:17:26.680
<v Speaker 1>on their viewscreen, and Roman ends it by saying, calculate

1:17:26.800 --> 1:17:33.200
<v Speaker 1>your chances negative, negative, negative, absolutely heartbreaking, and then he

1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:36.240
<v Speaker 1>says again that he's like several times now threatened that

1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:38.680
<v Speaker 1>he will destroy them imminently. He says it again, He's like,

1:17:38.720 --> 1:17:41.200
<v Speaker 1>in one hour, I will destroy you all, and the

1:17:41.280 --> 1:17:45.679
<v Speaker 1>kid Carlos says, Mommy, why doesn't he like people? Uh?

1:17:45.880 --> 1:17:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Then we get let's see we get more flirty electronics

1:17:48.680 --> 1:17:51.600
<v Speaker 1>work after this because Alis and Roy have to rewire

1:17:51.640 --> 1:17:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the view screen again so they can call Roman directly.

1:17:56.040 --> 1:17:58.880
<v Speaker 1>This is the scene where the Professor is like, Okay,

1:17:58.960 --> 1:18:01.200
<v Speaker 1>let me show you my fan Emily. Roman, how could

1:18:01.200 --> 1:18:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you want to destroy them? And then Roman like gives

1:18:04.960 --> 1:18:07.759
<v Speaker 1>a reason for destroying each family member. They show mother

1:18:08.240 --> 1:18:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, the mother is the bringer of human life.

1:18:11.320 --> 1:18:14.479
<v Speaker 1>And then they show the child Carla, and he's like,

1:18:14.520 --> 1:18:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I am programmed to have no emotions. And then they

1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:20.800
<v Speaker 1>show Johnny the boy and Johnny sticks out his tongue

1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:25.120
<v Speaker 1>and Roman just says, the boy is impertinent. Fair Fair,

1:18:25.400 --> 1:18:28.519
<v Speaker 1>He's kind of a Bart Simpsons, this kid. But this

1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:31.680
<v Speaker 1>scene is a turning point in the movie because when

1:18:31.680 --> 1:18:36.800
<v Speaker 1>the Professor shows Roman Alice, something clicks for Roman. Romance

1:18:36.960 --> 1:18:41.160
<v Speaker 1>hard exterior shell breaks and something kind of melts inside.

1:18:41.240 --> 1:18:44.920
<v Speaker 1>He sees Alice and he's like, hubba, hubba. He says,

1:18:44.960 --> 1:18:47.800
<v Speaker 1>there is something I do not understand. I want to

1:18:47.840 --> 1:18:51.519
<v Speaker 1>see the girl Alice again, and it's love at first sight.

1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:54.679
<v Speaker 1>He's immediately saying like, oh, well, wait a minute, Actually,

1:18:54.720 --> 1:18:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to destroy you. Let me negotiate with

1:18:57.400 --> 1:19:00.639
<v Speaker 1>the girl. Now. To be clear, Alice is very cute,

1:19:00.960 --> 1:19:05.200
<v Speaker 1>but is she really cute to an alien robots sideboard

1:19:05.320 --> 1:19:09.120
<v Speaker 1>gorilla man um? I'm just I'm not sure about that.

1:19:09.160 --> 1:19:12.599
<v Speaker 1>And also I have to question the Roman viceroy here,

1:19:12.840 --> 1:19:15.280
<v Speaker 1>like where does he think this relationship could possibly go?

1:19:15.600 --> 1:19:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's not thinking a long term Yeah, but the

1:19:17.920 --> 1:19:21.880
<v Speaker 1>weird thing, like she's weirdly all for it. She's Carlos says,

1:19:22.000 --> 1:19:24.160
<v Speaker 1>is Alice going to go on a date with Roman?

1:19:24.800 --> 1:19:29.280
<v Speaker 1>And Alice's yeah, I must go. She gives this passionate

1:19:29.320 --> 1:19:32.799
<v Speaker 1>monologue about how like humans crawled up from the slime

1:19:32.880 --> 1:19:36.160
<v Speaker 1>of the ocean and evolved to tame the atom and

1:19:36.240 --> 1:19:38.840
<v Speaker 1>it cannot end just because she did not want to

1:19:38.880 --> 1:19:41.960
<v Speaker 1>become bride of Roman. So she she's gonna, She's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I love this because this this is a

1:19:44.360 --> 1:19:47.519
<v Speaker 1>moment in the film that feels very unexpected, because any

1:19:47.560 --> 1:19:51.320
<v Speaker 1>other film that had this kind of plot, uh, would

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<v Speaker 1>not go in this direction. It would just be like, oh,

1:19:54.040 --> 1:19:56.200
<v Speaker 1>save me from the Roman. I do not want to

1:19:56.240 --> 1:19:59.160
<v Speaker 1>marry the Roman. But no, she goes this movie goes

1:19:59.160 --> 1:20:02.400
<v Speaker 1>in the opposite direct and it and it makes it interesting. However,

1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:04.439
<v Speaker 1>the family, the rest of the family do not agree,

1:20:04.439 --> 1:20:07.800
<v Speaker 1>and they end up restraining Alice to prevent her from

1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:12.280
<v Speaker 1>going to this this Roman rendezvous. But meanwhile, little Johnny

1:20:12.360 --> 1:20:15.160
<v Speaker 1>runs off to meet Roman instead. Uh. And here's where

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<v Speaker 1>we get the first of lots of scenes of Roman

1:20:18.320 --> 1:20:22.439
<v Speaker 1>walking up a hill. Uh. I don't know why they

1:20:22.520 --> 1:20:25.040
<v Speaker 1>chose to include this much footage, if like they were

1:20:25.080 --> 1:20:28.040
<v Speaker 1>embracing how funny it looked, or it's hard for me

1:20:28.080 --> 1:20:30.200
<v Speaker 1>to believe they watched it and did not think it

1:20:30.240 --> 1:20:31.920
<v Speaker 1>was funny. So this is one of those things that

1:20:31.960 --> 1:20:34.040
<v Speaker 1>makes me think, well, yeah, maybe they were sort of

1:20:34.560 --> 1:20:38.559
<v Speaker 1>leaning into the absurd comic aspect of this, but there's

1:20:38.560 --> 1:20:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it, and we could not stop laughing. Yeah. Again,

1:20:44.000 --> 1:20:48.600
<v Speaker 1>anytime Roman is on the screen, you're entertained. There's not

1:20:48.720 --> 1:20:50.439
<v Speaker 1>a dull moment, as long as you can say there's

1:20:50.479 --> 1:20:52.320
<v Speaker 1>not a dull moment in the movie. But he is.

1:20:52.600 --> 1:20:55.680
<v Speaker 1>He's just such an interesting specimen to look at. So

1:20:55.760 --> 1:20:58.400
<v Speaker 1>Johnny and Roman meet up and Johnny's like, hey, you know,

1:20:58.439 --> 1:21:00.840
<v Speaker 1>what do you have against us? And Roman and explains, well,

1:21:00.880 --> 1:21:04.240
<v Speaker 1>you are human and your people were getting too intelligent.

1:21:04.360 --> 1:21:06.320
<v Speaker 1>We could not wait until you were strong enough to

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<v Speaker 1>attack us. We had to attack you first. And then

1:21:10.880 --> 1:21:14.559
<v Speaker 1>there's an amazing exchange. Johnny says, I think you're just

1:21:14.640 --> 1:21:17.479
<v Speaker 1>a big bully picking on those smaller than you are,

1:21:17.880 --> 1:21:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and Romance says, now, I will kill you. So he

1:21:23.040 --> 1:21:25.720
<v Speaker 1>tries to do use the Calcinator death ray, but it

1:21:25.720 --> 1:21:30.439
<v Speaker 1>doesn't work. Johnny's immune. But this encounter, let's slip the

1:21:30.880 --> 1:21:33.759
<v Speaker 1>fact about the sea rum that keeps them safe from Roman,

1:21:33.840 --> 1:21:36.639
<v Speaker 1>and Roman figures out that he can now calculate how

1:21:36.680 --> 1:21:39.439
<v Speaker 1>to destroy them. Oh and meanwhile, in the same part,

1:21:39.600 --> 1:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Romance wandering around and Alice and Roy are oft in

1:21:43.040 --> 1:21:46.880
<v Speaker 1>the the desert together and they're hiding from Roman, and

1:21:46.920 --> 1:21:49.080
<v Speaker 1>they like lay down on a bunch of cactuses and

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<v Speaker 1>start kissing. And then they run home after this and

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<v Speaker 1>say that they want to get married, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>a wedding ceremony. Oh my god. So this this is

1:21:57.320 --> 1:22:00.439
<v Speaker 1>probably the dumbest part of the very dumb film. Um.

1:22:00.680 --> 1:22:03.559
<v Speaker 1>I loved every moment of it because, Okay, first of all,

1:22:03.600 --> 1:22:06.160
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned how Roy came back from spying on Roman

1:22:06.280 --> 1:22:09.160
<v Speaker 1>or whatever and his shirt was torn. He quickly became

1:22:09.200 --> 1:22:12.360
<v Speaker 1>obvious that this is the only like medium adult T

1:22:12.520 --> 1:22:15.040
<v Speaker 1>shirt left on the planet because he doesn't get a

1:22:15.040 --> 1:22:17.120
<v Speaker 1>new and he just sticks with this ragged old thing.

1:22:17.720 --> 1:22:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Um a couple of times during the making out and

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<v Speaker 1>the wooing of Alice, um, that shirt comes all the

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<v Speaker 1>way off. And then when they get married, And granted

1:22:26.680 --> 1:22:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not a fancy ceremony, it's kind of thrown together

1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:31.320
<v Speaker 1>last minute. There aren't a lot of people to invite

1:22:31.320 --> 1:22:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to it because most of the world is dead and

1:22:33.680 --> 1:22:38.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a dead world. Uh, but Roy is married shirtless.

1:22:38.600 --> 1:22:41.360
<v Speaker 1>This is a shirtless wedding, And I had to I

1:22:41.439 --> 1:22:44.280
<v Speaker 1>had actually did a quick searching around. I'm like, is

1:22:44.320 --> 1:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>this a thing? Has even the most ridiculous of celebrities

1:22:48.479 --> 1:22:52.000
<v Speaker 1>had a wedding ceremony in which they are completely shirtless,

1:22:52.360 --> 1:22:54.760
<v Speaker 1>And I could find no evidence that this is the case.

1:22:54.800 --> 1:22:57.439
<v Speaker 1>I think you have had some examples of of you know,

1:22:57.560 --> 1:23:02.120
<v Speaker 1>particularly particularly buff dude maybe getting married with just a

1:23:02.240 --> 1:23:07.360
<v Speaker 1>jacket over their buffness. But I think Roy, I correct

1:23:07.400 --> 1:23:09.960
<v Speaker 1>me if I'm wrong, listeners, but I think Roy was

1:23:10.680 --> 1:23:13.800
<v Speaker 1>maybe in a in a category all his own here,

1:23:13.920 --> 1:23:17.200
<v Speaker 1>just the shirtless wedding to Alice when they say they're

1:23:17.200 --> 1:23:20.440
<v Speaker 1>getting married and they asked the professor to perform the ceremony.

1:23:20.479 --> 1:23:23.080
<v Speaker 1>The professors like, it will be the biggest social event

1:23:23.120 --> 1:23:27.759
<v Speaker 1>of the year and depending on how much time has passed.

1:23:27.800 --> 1:23:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is a very good case to be

1:23:29.360 --> 1:23:32.200
<v Speaker 1>made for that. So they get married and it's just well,

1:23:32.320 --> 1:23:35.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's heartwarming. Uh. But he does put the shore

1:23:35.240 --> 1:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>back on though, Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, He's like,

1:23:38.960 --> 1:23:40.599
<v Speaker 1>all right, right, you know, I didn't want to wear

1:23:40.600 --> 1:23:42.639
<v Speaker 1>this awful thing to the wedding, but I will put

1:23:42.680 --> 1:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>it back on now. Now. After this, we get to

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<v Speaker 1>the part where I started to figure out spoiler spoiler

1:23:48.680 --> 1:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>for the ending of the film. Uh. I started to realize, Oh,

1:23:53.360 --> 1:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna all be a dream because Romance starts

1:23:56.360 --> 1:23:59.959
<v Speaker 1>killing people. It starts killing the characters, including like the children,

1:24:00.000 --> 1:24:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and oh yeah, and kills the little girl. Yeah, he

1:24:02.720 --> 1:24:06.160
<v Speaker 1>strangles the little girl. And I was like what And

1:24:06.200 --> 1:24:10.160
<v Speaker 1>then I realized, Oh, they would not release this movie

1:24:10.240 --> 1:24:13.439
<v Speaker 1>if that actually just happened. So I just didn't be

1:24:13.560 --> 1:24:16.599
<v Speaker 1>at that moment of clarity. I was like, well, she's dead. Now,

1:24:16.800 --> 1:24:20.040
<v Speaker 1>that's just how totally inconsistent this movie is. Yeah, he

1:24:20.080 --> 1:24:22.240
<v Speaker 1>starts killing all the human characters, and I think he

1:24:22.280 --> 1:24:26.360
<v Speaker 1>basically kills all of them. Uh he kills Roy. Uh

1:24:26.520 --> 1:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>does he killed both the kids? Oh? I will say

1:24:30.200 --> 1:24:34.959
<v Speaker 1>he does carry Alice around, as depicted on the poster. Finally,

1:24:35.320 --> 1:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a movie where the poster is true to life. The

1:24:38.120 --> 1:24:40.519
<v Speaker 1>monster just carries the hell out of a woman, just

1:24:40.560 --> 1:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>carries her around. We see lots of shots of Roman

1:24:43.360 --> 1:24:48.400
<v Speaker 1>carrying Alice's struggling body across the countryside. Here she's just

1:24:48.479 --> 1:24:51.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of kicking her feet back and forth. He's carrying

1:24:51.080 --> 1:24:54.320
<v Speaker 1>her around. She doesn't actually it doesn't look like she's

1:24:54.320 --> 1:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>really trying to sell being distressed in these scenes. She's

1:24:57.320 --> 1:24:59.920
<v Speaker 1>just she just looks like this is funny. Yeah. I mean,

1:25:00.320 --> 1:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing that he couldn't really see out of that

1:25:03.200 --> 1:25:06.639
<v Speaker 1>cost him all that well. So these scenes where he's

1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:08.559
<v Speaker 1>some of those scenes, you can kind of you kind

1:25:08.560 --> 1:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>of get the sense that he's walking gingerly with the

1:25:11.120 --> 1:25:14.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of gorilla arms outstretched in case he falls. So

1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:16.680
<v Speaker 1>perhaps that was part of it. Here, don't kick too

1:25:16.760 --> 1:25:20.720
<v Speaker 1>much or there's gonna be a tumble. But ultimately we

1:25:20.760 --> 1:25:23.000
<v Speaker 1>get some we get some real conflict in the Roman

1:25:23.120 --> 1:25:26.160
<v Speaker 1>character because he kidnaps Alice. He takes her back to

1:25:26.360 --> 1:25:29.599
<v Speaker 1>his cave. Um, I think the professor and mother are

1:25:29.640 --> 1:25:32.679
<v Speaker 1>trying to come rescue her. But he calls into his boss,

1:25:32.680 --> 1:25:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and his boss is like, Okay, you gotta you've gotta

1:25:35.080 --> 1:25:37.800
<v Speaker 1>destroy all the humans, and he's and he's like, no,

1:25:37.960 --> 1:25:41.599
<v Speaker 1>I cannot destroy this human because I love her, And

1:25:41.720 --> 1:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>his boss is really mad at him. He says, you

1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>are not like a Roman, You're like a human. Destroy

1:25:47.040 --> 1:25:50.160
<v Speaker 1>them all or I will destroy you. And so Roman

1:25:50.320 --> 1:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>he gets his final soliloquy. He says, I cannot yet

1:25:53.360 --> 1:25:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I must. Oh, actually I should read this quote directly.

1:25:57.880 --> 1:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>He says, I cannot, yet I must. How do you

1:26:00.920 --> 1:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>calculate that at what point on the graph you must

1:26:04.280 --> 1:26:08.479
<v Speaker 1>and cannot meet? Yet? I must, but I cannot pure

1:26:08.600 --> 1:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Shakespeare right now anyway, So we get that conflict. He

1:26:13.280 --> 1:26:15.879
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want, he can't bring himself to kill Alice.

1:26:15.960 --> 1:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>So then the Great Guidance says, you wish to be

1:26:19.200 --> 1:26:22.360
<v Speaker 1>a human, good, you can die like a human, and

1:26:22.400 --> 1:26:25.360
<v Speaker 1>then he kills He like sends a cosmic ray to

1:26:25.560 --> 1:26:29.120
<v Speaker 1>kill to kill the Roman, and then he again He

1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:33.559
<v Speaker 1>basically he sends dinosaurs to fight again to do the

1:26:33.600 --> 1:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>same stock footage they did earlier. Yeah, I think so. Again,

1:26:37.880 --> 1:26:41.719
<v Speaker 1>it gets very confusing, and that's gonna destroy the world

1:26:41.880 --> 1:26:44.679
<v Speaker 1>until Johnny wakes up. Johnny wakes up from his dream,

1:26:44.760 --> 1:26:46.679
<v Speaker 1>and of course it was all a dream. Of course

1:26:46.680 --> 1:26:50.840
<v Speaker 1>it was the moment Romance started killing the children. I

1:26:50.960 --> 1:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>knew that this was gonna happen. I I did not.

1:26:54.600 --> 1:26:57.280
<v Speaker 1>I found it really gut punchy when they did the

1:26:57.280 --> 1:26:59.360
<v Speaker 1>whole It was all a dream thing. And again, I've

1:26:59.360 --> 1:27:01.360
<v Speaker 1>seen this movie for but I guess I forgot about that.

1:27:01.520 --> 1:27:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe my mind rejected it, and I rejected now as well,

1:27:04.920 --> 1:27:08.479
<v Speaker 1>because my my I had to do so so many

1:27:08.560 --> 1:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>mental gymnastics to try and make sense of the plot

1:27:12.320 --> 1:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and and not even able to stitch everything together. And

1:27:15.200 --> 1:27:17.040
<v Speaker 1>then when you get to that, oh, but it was

1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:18.960
<v Speaker 1>all a dream, Like what am I supposed to do

1:27:19.000 --> 1:27:21.599
<v Speaker 1>with that? Right? I mean, then it nothing matters, because

1:27:21.640 --> 1:27:23.519
<v Speaker 1>then it was just it was just all the the

1:27:23.600 --> 1:27:26.559
<v Speaker 1>dreams of a young child. And and that's not interesting.

1:27:26.600 --> 1:27:29.400
<v Speaker 1>What's what's that's supposed to me? Agree, Phil Tucker? That

1:27:29.479 --> 1:27:32.559
<v Speaker 1>was cheap, That was that was that was a fake out.

1:27:33.439 --> 1:27:36.200
<v Speaker 1>You should not have done it. You should have structured

1:27:36.240 --> 1:27:37.960
<v Speaker 1>it in such a way that you could commit to

1:27:38.000 --> 1:27:40.519
<v Speaker 1>your ending and let it be the reality of the

1:27:40.560 --> 1:27:44.240
<v Speaker 1>world you've created. Yeah, yeah, or you know, it's not

1:27:44.280 --> 1:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that it was all a dream is always a terrible choice.

1:27:48.080 --> 1:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>It's often a great choice, especially in films that are

1:27:51.320 --> 1:27:54.479
<v Speaker 1>surreal and fantastic anyway or some sort of you know,

1:27:54.479 --> 1:27:56.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking of obviously Wizard of Oz being a great

1:27:56.720 --> 1:27:59.240
<v Speaker 1>example of this, the fact that it was all a

1:27:59.360 --> 1:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>dream or was maybe a dream. It's a little ambiguous. Uh,

1:28:03.400 --> 1:28:06.479
<v Speaker 1>that just adds to the the fun of the picture,

1:28:06.520 --> 1:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>and and that's just part of it. But here it's

1:28:09.120 --> 1:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>just it just feels very cut, punchy. I'm gonna say

1:28:11.760 --> 1:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>it's writers out there, I would not advise you to

1:28:15.160 --> 1:28:18.240
<v Speaker 1>try it was all a dream. It It works in

1:28:18.280 --> 1:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>the Wizard of Oz. But I'd say that kind of

1:28:20.080 --> 1:28:22.840
<v Speaker 1>outcome is rare. Most of the time. Audiences are going

1:28:22.880 --> 1:28:26.160
<v Speaker 1>to feel cheated. Yeah, but at least this isn't just

1:28:26.280 --> 1:28:28.519
<v Speaker 1>it was all a dream. This is it was all

1:28:28.600 --> 1:28:32.559
<v Speaker 1>a dream? Or was it? Because when our human characters

1:28:32.600 --> 1:28:35.719
<v Speaker 1>walk away from the cave, outcomes out of the cave

1:28:35.800 --> 1:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>comes walking the Roman, reaching out towards the view, or

1:28:38.400 --> 1:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>in fact, they do it like three times, just to

1:28:41.479 --> 1:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>drive home the uh, the the horror of the picture.

1:28:45.280 --> 1:28:47.240
<v Speaker 1>And I guess also get just a little more juice

1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>out of the three D because it's like he's coming

1:28:49.400 --> 1:28:52.360
<v Speaker 1>out of the screen at you. People were running screaming

1:28:52.360 --> 1:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>out of the theaters. I'm sure. But Robot Monster, I

1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:02.080
<v Speaker 1>love you, Robot Monster. What what a film? Yeah, I'm

1:29:02.160 --> 1:29:05.519
<v Speaker 1>just noticing that the great one, uh, the Roman Boss. Uh.

1:29:05.640 --> 1:29:09.440
<v Speaker 1>In one of his final lines, he says, next, psychotronic

1:29:09.520 --> 1:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>vibrations will smash the planet Earth out of the universe.

1:29:12.720 --> 1:29:16.599
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty great because the psychotronic vibrations, all of this film,

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<v Speaker 1>the psychotronic film, Uh, you can pretty much just smash

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<v Speaker 1>the planet out of the universe. It certainly smashes the

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<v Speaker 1>viewer out of the universe, at least for a little

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<v Speaker 1>over an hour, about sixty two minutes. Those were the days,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I am, I am worn out. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>to stop it there. Yeah, yeah, we've been going longer

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<v Speaker 1>than the film for sure. But yeah, suffice to say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot in the sixty two minutes of runtime

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<v Speaker 1>that's worth worth watching. Yeah that don't go watch a

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<v Speaker 1>three hour picture. Watch Robot Monster three times. In a

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<v Speaker 1>row because there's just so much there. Again, the book

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot yet I must buy Ander's Runstad is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>worth picking up if you want a deeper dive into

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<v Speaker 1>this picture. But yeah, I highly recommend Robot Monster. If

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<v Speaker 1>this is your type of film, this is definitely the

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<v Speaker 1>film for you. Roman commands it all right, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and close it out here, but we'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from everyone out there if you have thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on Robot Monster where it fits into your appreciation of

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<v Speaker 1>film and your movie going history. Right in we'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear from you. Just a reminder that if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to look at all the films that we've consider,

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<v Speaker 1>all the films that we've covered on Weird House Cinema,

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<v Speaker 1>go to letterbox dot com. It's l E T T

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<v Speaker 1>E R b o x d uh. It's a great

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<v Speaker 1>website for charting your own, uh film favorites and films

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see and that sort of thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>we have a user account there. Our user name is

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<v Speaker 1>weird House, and we have a list there of everything

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<v Speaker 1>we've covered and sometimes just a sneak peak of what

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<v Speaker 1>we're covering in the next week. We're primarily a science podcast.

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