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Speaker 1: Thanks the chronic goals. This is not your average shows.

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Speaker 1: You're now tuned into the rail.

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Speaker 2: comment what's the deal? What's the deal? What's the deal?

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Speaker 1: Rich Man? Shoot?

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Speaker 2: Same old thing, Man. I should have turned the air

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Speaker 2: conditioning on before I came up in here. Man, it's

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Speaker 2: hot as hell. It's weather been weird as hell.

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Speaker 1: No heat stroke, little heat thing right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, I know if it's hot down here where I'm at,

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it's courting. Where you're at right now.

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Speaker 3: It's in the mid nineties out this way you're right

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Speaker 3: now is probably shit boo noo. It's probably eighty something

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Speaker 3: degrees right now.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let me ask you this, man, Do you feel

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Speaker 1: some kind of what it's like eighty three degrees right now? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you something, man, You know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? You talk every day, man, multiple times a day.

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Speaker 2: I have to ask you this shit. Do you feel

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Speaker 2: kind of like saying that it's your last album. No,

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Speaker 2: how do you say you feel what? But do you

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Speaker 2: feel accomplished? Like do you feel like, man, it's time.

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Speaker 1: Accomplished.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it all depends on what you feel you

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Speaker 3: needed to fill as an artist, as an entertainment. And

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Speaker 3: then you know, not just I don't want to say

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Speaker 3: it's you know, it's a young man's game, you know,

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Speaker 3: because every time you make, every time you make, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, the announcement that it might be your last

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Speaker 3: record or shark. You know, people you know, fans, people, friends, whatever,

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Speaker 3: they encourage you to keep, you know, making music because

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Speaker 3: first of all, they want you to understand that music

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Speaker 3: shouldn't have an age limit. You know, the sound might

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Speaker 3: go through through gaps, generational gaps, or whatever music might be.

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Speaker 3: But you know, if you were you know, an artist

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Speaker 3: who was appreciated by by you know, few many people

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Speaker 3: are going to always, I guess encourage you to make music,

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Speaker 3: especially if they still love the sound and the direction

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Speaker 3: of what your music is. But you know, at one

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Speaker 3: point in the time, you know, I guess you know,

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Speaker 3: everybody feel like, you know, it's time to retire, and

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Speaker 3: you know, either enjoy life or grandkids or you know,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I know it's not a physical you

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Speaker 3: want to say sport, you know, baseball, basketball, football, You know,

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Speaker 3: niggas get a certain age, it's time to hang it up, right.

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Speaker 3: But you see, musicians, shit, if you're a good musician,

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Speaker 3: I guess you can you can tour, and you know,

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Speaker 3: as long as you have a fan base, you could

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Speaker 3: tour and make music for you.

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Speaker 1: Know, however long.

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Speaker 3: But I guess sometimes you know, in certain situations when

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Speaker 3: you want to go out, you know, like they say

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Speaker 3: sour note, right. You know, music is changing, it's evolving.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, people always say, oh, don't don't stop

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Speaker 3: making music eight because I don't like what I hear today.

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Speaker 3: And your sound is something that I appreciated. But you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not like shit. You gotta look at it, and

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Speaker 3: you gotta look at it on the sense of do

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Speaker 3: you do this shit because it's financially stable, or do

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Speaker 3: you do this shit because you just generally love to

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: And that's the point I'm that you know, I love

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Speaker 3: I need to go try something else, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And you know I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: and I was thinking. I was like, man eight been

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Speaker 2: doing this shit since he was eighteen, seventeen seventeen on

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Speaker 2: a professional level, right, So you never got the chance

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Speaker 2: really to go out and do other shit that a

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Speaker 3: I think eating on being an average motherfucker, you know,

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Speaker 3: not that it's too late, you get me. I'd love

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Speaker 3: only thing they can do is and and not that

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Speaker 3: that's something simple, you know, coming up with a hit

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Speaker 3: their money off. You feel me so, but you could

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Speaker 3: try new things, do something. You see what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You know what people got the misconsider. I think people

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Speaker 3: had a misconception that if you make it an entertainment,

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Speaker 3: very very good career, right, you know, very good career, right,

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Speaker 3: And I've never let that go because I've always liked

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Speaker 3: the security of having that. You feel what I'm saying, right,

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Speaker 3: And I think people get to miscing me doing both.

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Speaker 3: Actually now, when I was working in the entertainment the industry, man,

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Speaker 3: I was a full time I was full time. I

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Speaker 3: was a full time executive, right. But I think people

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Speaker 3: get this misconception that working as a rapper or actor

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Speaker 3: don't think people understand that when you go on a

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Speaker 3: comparash those movies. Everything you might go on to set

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Speaker 3: man at six o'clock in the morning, and you may

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Speaker 3: not leave to ten o'clock at night, and you're doing

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Speaker 3: the same thing over and over and over and over again, right,

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Speaker 3: just so they can get a perpect tape. Right, So

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Speaker 3: I think people think, you know, you do one scene

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Speaker 3: and you know, independent movies it's a little different. But

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Speaker 1: It's work. I know.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely a lot of times you get in confused

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Speaker 3: with fun and games. You know, you watch videos. You

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Speaker 3: see niggas party in their clubs, drank bitches, homeknies, weed, smoke,

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Speaker 3: you know, chains on money around. Even with you know, performances,

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Speaker 3: you see the same thing backstage dressing rooms. You know,

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Speaker 3: so you know, to the general eye, that's fun shit.

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Speaker 3: That ain't work. You get, that's that's fun shit. But

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Speaker 3: knowing what what and you know, especially if you on

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Speaker 3: the road with it, what comes with that. You're getting

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Speaker 3: up a motherfucker four o'clock in the morning. After just

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Speaker 3: beating it up till maybe three o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 3: The morning, get the motherfucking go to your hotel, maybe

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Speaker 3: for an hour and a half two hours. That's if

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Speaker 3: you flying. If you on a bus is different. But

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Speaker 3: motherfucker you go to your hotel. You got to pack up,

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Speaker 3: motherfucking your shit. You get me, And this is for

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Speaker 3: This is for the regular nigga. Now I ain't saying

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Speaker 3: for the mega superstar who got handlers and who got

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Speaker 3: motherfucking shit to do all it. This is for a

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Speaker 3: nigga like me who grinding it out on your own.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: And I've never had you know, my whole career, I've

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Speaker 3: You you get, you get a plane ticket, you get

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Speaker 3: same ship. Niggas gotta get up at four o'clock in

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Speaker 1: You you call it hanging, and that might.

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Speaker 3: Seem fun to people, but me myself, you know, I

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Speaker 1: Body and on the month you get if you learn,

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Speaker 1: you know the world.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, it's the difference of you the club

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Speaker 2: You had to be in town. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: what people don't understand. I remember it, man, when I

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Speaker 2: I have my DJ and you know sometimes when you

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Speaker 2: he decides that, oh, I want to go back home

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Speaker 2: because he got a girlfriend. He's worried about what she

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Speaker 2: got going on, right, So I'm thinking they paying for

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Speaker 2: it if it do it. That ticket was like three

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: He went home and he came back and made no time.

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Speaker 2: But I was would have labeled that was functioned as

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Speaker 2: an independent right, you know, you get your money, right,

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Speaker 2: and while they not charging you back like a record label.

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Speaker 2: I see, my shit is minus like forty five hundred

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Speaker 2: where did this go? That was?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's for that flight he took back home. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you get shot take home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're getting charged for everything when you on the

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Speaker 2: you know, when you on the road like that, especially

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Speaker 2: you're on a promotional thing, right, You're on one of

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Speaker 2: those promotional things, right, and it's just not the sweetest people.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. Eight is fun because you're doing

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Speaker 1: something you like to do.

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Speaker 2: But like you said, you could be a dude that's

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Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna Thank God, I'm

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Speaker 3: And and and and all those songs that you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing bro right there. You know, you

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Speaker 2: How I was talking. I've actually been doing a lot

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Speaker 1: It don't matter.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got the homies in the hood, man,

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Speaker 2: When y'all see each other, it's like, y'all like, how

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Speaker 2: And he was just telling me, man, he was like, man,

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Speaker 3: And then this goes fai niggas you like you said,

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Speaker 3: For for you for a nigga to be like you

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Speaker 2: And it's and this is me being honest. I've never

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Speaker 2: That was a certain age to me. It was like,

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Speaker 2: He loved that shit. You could look at him and

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Speaker 2: I think it's when you don't feel it in your

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Speaker 2: I lived so many different lives, right. I remember I

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Speaker 2: And I had a cool little personal stay. Had personal

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Speaker 2: That's not off the ram of impossibility, you know what

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Speaker 2: It's all kinds of stuff that just comes your way sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Like I've had stuff, man. You know, I don't like

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Speaker 2: you know what, that was cool And I wasn't expecting that,

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Speaker 2: you would see like a group of three kids, right,

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00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: you have one dude that's the rapper, one dude that's

432
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: the manager, and one dude that's a homeboy. Right, and

433
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: you can look at him and just tell from you

434
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 2: being around, Okay, that nigga right there should be the rapper.

435
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: That nigga right there, that's the rapper. He should be

436
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: the manager. And the other nigga that's just the homie.

437
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: He might have more swag than both of them. You

438
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: feel what I'm saying, And it's like you're looking at it,

439
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 2: but you can't tell them that because they're young, and

440
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: they all got their dreams and they all got the

441
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 2: divisional what they see themselves as.

442
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: Right.

443
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: I think, man, whenever and sometimes to me, I think

444
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: you can't say. You can't say when something is not

445
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 2: working out, right, But I do think this, man, I

446
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: don't have no problem with none of the ogs rapper.

447
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 2: And I think if that's what you do, do your thing,

448
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 2: it ain't my place to tell nobody want to stop.

449
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 2: But I do think if you've been aspiring to be

450
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: a rapper since you were the sixteen and you forty

451
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: five now, it may be time to realign your vision

452
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 2: and say, you know what, I love music, I'm gonna

453
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: go into man, I'm gonna maybe a writer for somebody.

454
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: I may go.

455
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 2: You know, you can produce records to your nineties, try

456
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: your hand in production, but allow somebody else to do that,

457
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: because that's not for you. Possibly, and you could be

458
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 2: hindering your blessing by saying, you know what, I want

459
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: to be a rapper. You might fuck around and be

460
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: a manager and find you with Kendrick Lamar something. You

461
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: get to develop them and use all the skills that

462
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: you don't learn over time. Because just because a nigga

463
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: ain't made it, don't mean they necessarily whack it, just

464
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: mean it ain't for you.

465
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: I mean, we know several niggas who've had, you know,

466
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: previous projects and haven't put out you projects in years,

467
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: in decades. There's a lot of them all there. But

468
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if they said they're retired or if

469
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 3: they just wanted to just you know, ride out into

470
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 3: the se set off of whatever the work they've got.

471
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 3: Get me, because it's several niggas that we feel that

472
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 3: could probably still make make noise in the industry, but

473
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: they decided, you know, I'm just not gonna do this

474
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 3: ship now. You can't say, but they never announced, oh

475
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: I'm retired. I don't do that shit no more. Because

476
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: every now and then you might hear amongst.

477
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: Something, well, you know, one thing I will say, Man,

478
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: I've seen as a blake that every rapper want to

479
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 2: run and get a podcast.

480
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: Well you know that's.

481
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: The I ain't mad at it because they just, you know, everything,

482
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 2: they're trying to find something to do, you feel me,

483
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: And that just.

484
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 3: Goes to show the same with any and I don't

485
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 3: want to say any motherfucking field of entertainment because niggas

486
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: who tried their hand at you know, being artists or

487
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 3: out music. Everybody thought at one time, you know, and

488
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: still feel to this day that rap was the new ticket.

489
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: You feel me.

490
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: You know how they used to say niggas was only

491
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 3: good back in the days playing sports, You get hit.

492
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: Same thing goes for the rap game when it presented

493
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: itself predominantly ran by niggas, right, I mean, were performed.

494
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: You know, everybody started feeling because niggas looked at rappers

495
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 3: as the average motherfucker like me. You get me. I'm

496
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 3: coming out of poverty coming off the block. You know

497
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm near some that, you know, I'm around this element.

498
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: So everybody started at at one time, everybody felt like shit,

499
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: I could rap, just like you just got through saying

500
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: it's some niggas who started rapping when they were sixteen

501
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 3: seventeen and they forty five and they still haven't done

502
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: nothing significant and still trying. Everybody thought that about the

503
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: rock Gag at one point, right, you knew you, you

504
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: knew niggas who shouldn't be picking up the mic, who

505
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 3: was picking up the mic?

506
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: All of them?

507
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get Me niggas, like you turned around like

508
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: really like now you laughing, like when did that happen?

509
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: How did you get kicked? How did the bug bite you?

510
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 3: Because you know, so that's what happened with the podcast game.

511
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: You Get Me.

512
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: Podcast game had that revolving door for niggas who wanted

513
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 3: to jump on the merry go right right, you know,

514
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: the merry go round start spinning, and depending how fast

515
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 3: it is going, some niggas want to attempt to jump

516
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: on while that motherfucker going right m Sometimes you can

517
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: jump on that motherfucker, hold on and manage to stay.

518
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: You know, I used to be in a and the

519
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: niggas puts you on a little small, little merry go

520
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: round thing. It used to spend that motherfucker fast and

521
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: used to try to jump on that motherfucker while we

522
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: was spinning. Now, some niggas could hold on, right, Some

523
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 3: niggas could on and hold on the mutherfucking.

524
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: Bars and spin around and be like cool.

525
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 3: Some niggas try to jump on, spin around once or

526
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 3: twice and fall off. So that that was that's the

527
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 3: rap game. That's the podcast game. Now you get me

528
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: because how many years you been on the show. It's

529
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: been a few, there's been a minute. Now, it's been

530
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: five years.

531
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: Uh. But it's a lot of niggas don't understand, you know,

532
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: half of a podcast.

533
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 3: It's just like being a motherfucker who might have had

534
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 3: you know, it's a journalist or an interviewer. You know,

535
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: you gotta be able to connect with certain people. Subjects

536
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: gotta be on point, you know. And because of the

537
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 3: element of what a lot of these podcasters are, you

538
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: give you a lot of niggas. You're giving this a

539
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: lot of us who got podcasts right.

540
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: And then about the same shit you got.

541
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 3: The white people who got they podcasts and they ship

542
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: and they element. But you got a lot of niggas

543
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: with podcasts, right, and like you said, uh, some of

544
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: them are up here, you know, some of them are here.

545
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: And then then you got the bottom feeders, the niggas

546
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 3: who nigga, I'm gonna start a podcast because so and

547
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: so on them got one, or this nigga got one.

548
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: I see this nigga got so fuck it, I'm gonna

549
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: start me one. But they don't understand it's it's it's

550
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 3: it's an art form.

551
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: Again. You know, you gotta be able to connect with people.

552
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: And then again you got to learn how to have

553
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 3: a conversation and know what to acts and know what

554
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: to inform people about. And that's where a lot that's

555
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: where a lot of shit falls off because half of

556
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: motherfuckers who got shows can't even hold a decent conversation

557
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: or they don't even know how to hold a you know,

558
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: a fifteen minute conversation.

559
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: When I was saying the same thing one hundred.

560
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 2: Times, you feel me, And that's real. You know what

561
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 2: I noticed? Man shut out to crypt mac Man. He

562
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: hit me, were gonna have him on the show next week, right,

563
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: and he reached out to us when he came home,

564
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: and he told me it's been a lot of people

565
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: trying to interview him because you know, he draws numbers

566
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: in and he's entertainer, right of course, he's you know, comedy, right.

567
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: But he said, man, I want to come back on

568
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: y'all show because I'm trying to do stuff different this time.

569
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, he said, And y'all actually had

570
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: a real conversation with me. It wasn't just about like

571
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: me looking at playing with cats and doing goof y'all.

572
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: I'll see a lot of people want and I don't

573
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: want to say, ex Lloyd, that's what it is.

574
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: What it is.

575
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: The Niggas Show, it is what it is because like

576
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: a nigga, at the end of the day, the nigga

577
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: gotta eat right. And if a nigga gonna pay you

578
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 3: to come do shit, then nine times out of ten,

579
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 3: when a nigga's trying to build his mother fucking his catalog,

580
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: a nigga trying to build his motherfucking image of you're

581
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: gonna do a lot of shit that you are you're

582
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: opposed to doing right, That's just it at the end

583
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: of the day. So a lot of people like to

584
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: want to exploit that. You know, people don't want to

585
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 3: sit up and hear no serious conversation about Krip Mac.

586
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: Nah nigga.

587
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: I want to see the antics. I want to see

588
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: the foolishness. I want to see that the craziness you

589
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: get me, because that's what's gonna get my numbers up.

590
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 3: And that's what's gonna get people interested and and and

591
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: whatever that is of Kryp Mac and other niggas.

592
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: Like you said, they want to exploit this.

593
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: Ship because it's gonna be great for my numbers if

594
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: I have him on the show, and I have him,

595
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 3: like you said, playing with cats or or or boxing

596
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: a nigga, or or or you know, advertising a nigga's

597
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: product or whatever it is, you get me. You know

598
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: that's what that's what it is. So I understand that

599
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: they gotta get his money book. You know, we have

600
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: never been about the image of what Chryp Mac represents

601
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: to the rest of the people as it's entertainment. You

602
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 3: feel me, We want to You want to talk to

603
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: a nigga about nigga?

604
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: Who are you? Where you come from? You're like, I

605
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: want to know the real you?

606
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: What'sh your real name, how to how how did this

607
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: come about? Why are people interested in you? Do you

608
00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: feel like you have to put on this motherfucking suit

609
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: for people? And you know you gotta be the King's

610
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 3: gesture you get me. You gotta be that type of

611
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: bullshit to a please motherfuckers. Like you said, who who's

612
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: gonna sit down and really talk to kryp maat And

613
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: that's in questions about realism and how is life and

614
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: how is life inside jail?

615
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: And what did you go to for in the first place?

616
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 2: If you know you have a daughter? Now, like what

617
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: is your plans on stands your life?

618
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: You know, just really I want to get you on

619
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: here and I want you to do some crazy ship

620
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 1: and let's see how many numbers I can get because

621
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 1: like you said, at the end of the day, people

622
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: want to exploit and and a lot of people pray

623
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: on your your silliness life. Man, you know I can't

624
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: get em more my ship nigga, and Nigga's gonna be legit.

625
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: You get me because that and that's what it is.

626
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: And you can't knock them up fucking for you dog.

627
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's all about numbers,

628
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: right you're getting. I want because that that's gonna present

629
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: a bigger check.

630
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: You know my numbers, we want numbers eight but me

631
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: and you see most of these dudes that do the

632
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: goofy shit, right, most of these guys that do the

633
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: goofy shit, they don't go outside. They're not You don't

634
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: see them nowhere. They don't.

635
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: They don't go to restaurants, they don't go You.

636
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 2: Just don't see them out in public, right, so they

637
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: can come with I go outside, man, people see me

638
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: in I have children with my last name, I have wife, man,

639
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 2: I have people that know me in the community. I

640
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: can't afford to be the fool, bro. I'm not a joke,

641
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 2: you feel what I'm saying. I don't want to be

642
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,760
Speaker 2: looked at as a joke either. I don't want people

643
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 2: thinking like Mania, that old silly ass nigga. We already

644
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 2: got enough old silly niggas. Dog.

645
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the third You feel what

646
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

647
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, that's when you're dealing with other people and

648
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: the image of who you are as a man and

649
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 3: what you want to be, what you want to stand for.

650
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: As far as being involved in this this crazy ass

651
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: entertainment world, this world of content creators and and numbers

652
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: and algorithms and all that shit. Somebody just got to

653
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: be straight and be a regular. Like I say it

654
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: all the time, somebody gotta be regular. You get me somebody.

655
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: And that's where I feel we're able to connect with

656
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: more motherfuckers or just a simple motherfuckers, you know, you know,

657
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: we just connect with regular motherfuckers because life is real

658
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: and everything ain't about floss and flash, and it ain't

659
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: about you know what you got, how much you get me,

660
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 3: But it's about you as the motherfucking person. And people

661
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: like to know that. Oh shit, it's THI a regular

662
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: motherfucker like me. I didn't even know that shit. Oh

663
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 3: this need to get up in the morning and put

664
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 3: on socks just like I do. Nigga put on draws

665
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 3: just like I do. You know, whatever you saw, people

666
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: want to know that. People like that. I know a

667
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 3: lot of people, you know, like to see foolishness, and

668
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 3: that's unfortunate, but you know, that's the world. You know,

669
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 3: there's comedy, there's entertainment, there's craziness, you know, and people

670
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 3: pay to see that shit and people want to see it.

671
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 3: But then You know, there's a handful of motherfuckers who

672
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 3: are normal and just want to be record.

673
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: You get me, and that's cool shouting him this. You

674
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: know what, man, you don't know. You don't know what

675
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: Trip Mac do.

676
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 3: After the cameras go off and he's at home and

677
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 3: there's no motherfucking niggas looking through them. You know, there's

678
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 3: no goodie mobs, you know, niggas looking through my window

679
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 3: and shit. And you know, who knows what the nigga

680
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: might be at all. He might be the regulars motherfucker

681
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: at home with the kid and just a straight father

682
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: and whatever whatever, but he no once he walk out

683
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 3: that door.

684
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: You get me. You know, all all bets are off.

685
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: The full antics are on nigga this, this, this is

686
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: the hood and this. You know a lot of people

687
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: do that ship You get me. Yeah, you know what

688
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 3: a lot of kids start. You know, Superman was real

689
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 3: when he went into the phone booth and changed and whatever.

690
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: And then when the nigga got off that movie screen

691
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: and went home, that nigga put on a suit and

692
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: tanging out, getting loaded at bars and crazy shit.

693
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: Just try and be regular, mother fucker.

694
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 3: So you don't you have to watch the character because

695
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: this is this get all, I'm making money off this ship, right,

696
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: everybody finds their lane to do ship.

697
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: You feel me.

698
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: Always, I've always came to this conclusion though, Bru, the

699
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: moment that Charlemagne and them hit us up man and

700
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: say hey man, you know what we need your to

701
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: step it up and do this and that, man, And

702
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: I'm not going to ever put the red nose on

703
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: for nobody.

704
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: That would be the thing. I decided to let it go.

705
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: And I think.

706
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 3: Niggas understand, you know who, You got to understand who

707
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 3: you're dealing with and what people are willing to go through.

708
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: We've never been looked at as that type of show.

709
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 3: We've never been looked at as you know, following the

710
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: trends of gimmicks and doing all kinds of crazy shit

711
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 3: for numbers. We're we're known as the normal niggas. And again,

712
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 3: there's a lot of normal motherfuckers out there. There's a

713
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: lot of normal niggas, and there's a lot of normal

714
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: females in normal life that goes on, and we try

715
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: to connect with that because we're we don't see ourselves

716
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: as the super hero motherfuckers, as these super entertainer. Motherfuckers

717
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 3: that can't that. You know, We're coming on the show

718
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: and Nigga, I got gold din the teeth in my

719
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: mouth and I'm wearing a big ass chain and you

720
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: know we're doing our God I said, some ship just

721
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: you have to leave it to the other motherfuckers. And

722
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 3: the reality of it is is you just have to

723
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: really be yourself so people can respect that.

724
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: You get me.

725
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 3: I ain't putting on no I ain't doing no motherfucking

726
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 3: antics right here. What you see is what you get.

727
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. You get a regular nigga

728
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: who's gonna talk to you like me and the mother

729
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: fucking garage or we just chopping it up on the

730
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 3: on the on the phone, and Nigga, I'm talking to

731
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: you just like I used to talk to one of

732
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: my niggas every day. And that's just what it is.

733
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: With the podcast, We're just trying to connect with people

734
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: and bring out you know, just I don't give a

735
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 3: fuck how well we know about all that shit. Nigga,

736
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: who is you and who is you about? And what

737
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 3: is your story? And and then what can you bring

738
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 3: to the table. As far as you know, there's a

739
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 3: lot of motherfuckers who are normal who listen to this

740
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 3: shells and what you have to doing? What's your normalcy

741
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 3: to the shell and you know they're trying to bring

742
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: on those superhero shit were trying to bring on normal motherfuckers.

743
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: Tell us they struggles, what they've been through, and then

744
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: the success of coming out of the ship hall you

745
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 3: feel me, like Andy duframe, that's what we do.

746
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: It's real. I'm not just I'm not here for all that, man.

747
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: You know what one of the things I was looking

748
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: at right, And it's just media period now. See it

749
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: ain't just the podcasts. Even news is with sensationalism now,

750
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: like I know you heard about they said we were

751
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 2: supposed to have beware of the drone strikes in California,

752
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: that Iran was going to be sending the drones over

753
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: here to you know, and you know somebody big get

754
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: hitting dobat right. But all of that thieves The news

755
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: cycle is driven by negativity. That's what interests people because

756
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: if you've ever noticed, whenever they have a high speed chase,

757
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: they start the news off of that. Well, first we

758
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: have a chased on the one on one theory, but

759
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to that because they want to keep

760
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: you waiting around to get to that. They want you

761
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: to watch the whole program. And it's like that's it's

762
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 2: like a carrot, right, like a horse thing on the

763
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: whole carrot in front of a horse.

764
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: Right.

765
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: Oh, man, I want to stay on here and watch

766
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 2: this because I want to see the high speed chase.

767
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 2: Is he gonna get caught at somebody gonna get shot

768
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 2: on TV as day? Because it's like, man, that's a

769
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 2: real thing. Man. You know when people look at bullshit

770
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: man and raises their endorphins in their body. There's people

771
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: this addicted to bullshit, bro. And so a lot of

772
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: people are addicted to the bullshit.

773
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: Why you think all those new brand new networks or

774
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 3: or or or or ball and then coming up, because

775
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: you've got people who are faithful to bullshit, like theig

776
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to watch the nigga getting aldward or

777
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: adulation and now I want to see a motherfucker getting

778
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 3: busted with his bitch. Or I want to see the

779
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: two bitches scrapping and going at it in the motherfucking

780
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 3: live room. Or I want to see the two gay

781
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: people doing, you know, getting into fights and shit and

782
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: whatever motherfuckers love.

783
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 1: Bullshit and like you said, phrases.

784
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: The motherfucking endorphins in your motherfucker because like I said,

785
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: I had a nigga who was faithful to that shit.

786
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: I used to be like, now I can watch this ship,

787
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: this shit is. It's like, damn, that's all you're.

788
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: Doing, nigga. Motherfuckers is pulling up. They just pull up.

789
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: They just pull up to a park, nigga and got

790
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: the cameras rolling and pull up with a van full

791
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 3: of bitches and another vand full of bitches and bitches

792
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: y'all just start fighting with each other, badies, the babies,

793
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 3: niggas be for that ship, niggas, and not to kno

794
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 3: nobody's hustle, right, who turns to Yeah, not to not

795
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 3: know body's because you get your bread. You get your bread, right,

796
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 3: m hm. You get your bread, You get your bread,

797
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: not to knock nobody hustle. That's how you want to

798
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: get it. And you know that's how it's gonna. You

799
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: know whatever, fuck it if you want to beat the

800
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 3: bitch's ass to the top, I'm you know, all I

801
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 3: could do, hopefully, if if if I was hopefully I

802
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: would be involved enough you know, in my daughter's life

803
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: or you know, influences around some of these young women

804
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 3: would be like this.

805
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: But sometimes what fuck's gonna do because.

806
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: As a young lady, like I said, I was a

807
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: nineteen eighteen year old motherfucker myself. That's why I say

808
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: I could never judge a motherfucker because there were some

809
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: things I did at seventeen eighteen, shit even sixteen, that

810
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: I probably knew I shouldn't have been doing, but I

811
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: did the motherfuckers anyway, And yeah, think of the consequences

812
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 3: of my actions because I'm trying to get it, you

813
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 3: feel me, because I'm feeling like I'm a young motherfucker

814
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: who needed and fuck trying to go out and be

815
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: an honest motherfucker worked for it, and you know, but

816
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 3: fuck that shit I'm gonna do with all the other

817
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: motherfucking niggas who coming up doing so. And then there's

818
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: there's there's that point to where a nigga can't tell

819
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 3: you shit.

820
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear no advice from no motherfucking body.

821
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: So again, I am the last motherfucker, you know, outside

822
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: of my own children, to give advice to as a

823
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: young motherfucker, because motherfucker might want to hear. Motherfucker might

824
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 3: tell me, nigga, fuck you, you're getting me real, put

825
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: myself in the situation to where a nigga gonna tell

826
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: me fuck me. Now, I gotta nigga, fuck you, You

827
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 3: feel me? Who knows what's on?

828
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: Time?

829
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 3: I go with the young niggas saying, hey, I get

830
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: it because I was once one. I was once you,

831
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 3: so I get it. But you know, I can tell

832
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 3: you, you know what might happen in the long run. That's

833
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: always been me from a nigga, from experience, from a nigga,

834
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: from what I've seen thirty years ago, you know, because

835
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: it ain't nothing different. They still locking niggas up, Niggas

836
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 3: still getting shot, you're getting so it's no different. And

837
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: that shit was going on thirty years ago, you feel me,

838
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: that shit was going on forty fifty years or sixty

839
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: years ago. Shit y'all now popping niggas and homies dying

840
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 3: and representing the hood and with the nigga I was

841
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 3: you thirty forty years ago, and I'm gonna tell you

842
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 3: right now, it's the same shit. They're still locking you

843
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: niggas up, They're still throwing away. The key niggas is

844
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: still dying, so you might want to listen to a

845
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 3: motherfucker you feel me. You might not want to wait

846
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 3: till it's too late, but that's what it is. So

847
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 3: I get it, and people gonna and then there's people

848
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 3: who gonna pay that loyal fee for me. I feel

849
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 3: pay my five ninety nine the up to see some

850
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: hat and you get me. M. I mean, you know

851
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 3: some people are untreatd by mess. I'm love. I'm gonna

852
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 3: tell you people pay. I'm a nigga who avoid mess,

853
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: so I don't entertain. And again, I am not criticizing

854
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: what a motherfucker do to make his money, because in

855
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 3: this day and age, motherfuckers do whatever they gotta do.

856
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: And at one point in time still you probably had

857
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 3: the mindset of I'm gonna do what the fuck I

858
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: gotta do to get this bread mm.

859
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, we got kids. You you live in certainty.

860
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: You got a point in time where I got it,

861
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 3: but you made choice. That was the difference. You still say, Hey,

862
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do what I gotta do, but it's certain

863
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 3: shit I'm not going to do.

864
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: You get you.

865
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 2: I made a choice, and I made and you know what,

866
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: he and I think. We all continuously make them choices.

867
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, man, I've had opportunities to do

868
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: certain shit for a lot of bread, for a lot

869
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: of bread, and I've seen, you know what, no cool

870
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: one that I'm not doing that right, Because at the

871
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: end of the day, bro, we still a minute, right,

872
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: we got somebody, We got sons to wear our last name.

873
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: They would have our last name forever. Do you know

874
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: that would be how sick I would be? Man? At fun,

875
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: I did some stupid shit and it costs my kids

876
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: opportunities to have motherfuckers looking at them.

877
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: Crasy, right, you feel what I'm saying. So everything is

878
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: not working.

879
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: We've all been presented with the opportunities to dip for

880
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 3: our feet in that water. You get me, But some

881
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 3: of us go an, I don't want to take that die.

882
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: Some niggas go, fuck that, I'm jumping in head first,

883
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: fuck it.

884
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: Mm hm. You get some of us test that water

885
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: and be like and get to thinking.

886
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: Like and that that that jump might not be that

887
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 3: water might be down there. You know it's I don't

888
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: know if I want to do that. So you make choices, man,

889
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 3: You know sometimes you know. And and like you said,

890
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 3: that's just God telling you man, you might not want

891
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: to do that ship.

892
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might not want to man, I'm gonna tell

893
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: you bro. I remember, man, a motherfucker presented me with

894
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 2: the opportunity to make a lot of money.

895
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: Man, and it wouldn't It wasn't nothing too bad.

896
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: It was some reality thing content, but it was some

897
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 2: of that Who's Network type of ship, and it was

898
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: it was a good bag in it, man, you know

899
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 2: what I decided? Man? And really I told my wife

900
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: about it, because I tell my wife about trying out.

901
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 2: I ain't go everything. I'm slicking up the whole no

902
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: secrets from her, you.

903
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. And she was like, she laughted,

904
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: well what you gonna do?

905
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: When I said, man, I don't think it's gonna be

906
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 2: I don't think it would be cool, she said, I'm

907
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: glad you think that, because it wouldn't be cool, you know,

908
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: like I wouldn't like that ship.

909
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: And oh no, that's just that's let me show what

910
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: you say, So what you're gonna do.

911
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 2: I wanted to see because you know, she said, she

912
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: wanted to see you know, the ship, you know, and

913
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 2: and it's real my wife's at the point and then.

914
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: A way she leave a motherfucker over some bullshit.

915
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: You know. It's like then I can't blame her, man,

916
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: because I'm her husband.

917
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying.

918
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I look at that stuff, man, like I

919
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 2: look at this Zoo's networkshit man and shut up to

920
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 2: that brother man because he made a gang of money.

921
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: He got a million, so he got millions to subscribe

922
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: as man paying six nine a month. That dude's making

923
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: a man six seven million dollars a month.

924
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: But it went costs and at some people's expense that

925
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: there is no cost to get me at that point

926
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: you make it six seven million dollars a month, there

927
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 3: is no I don't give a fuck. I exploit your

928
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 3: motherfucking mama if she want to come over here and

929
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: get out, like we get out and you have those motherfuckers.

930
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 3: You feel me some people, you know, And I don't

931
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: know if to say that it's wrong to do to

932
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: you know, exploit people's thirst for success or you get me,

933
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: because that's just like, you know, that's just like the

934
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 3: theme of of the girl who come from the small

935
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: town on the greyhound bus and come to Hollywood thinking

936
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 3: she gonna be a star, and then next thing you know,

937
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 3: you get me. She a star by fucking her way

938
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 3: to the top. Now she the biggest motherfucking stripper or

939
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 3: the biggest hole and everybody know in the industry, and

940
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 3: she making bread.

941
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: But at what costs? You know, so, man, And this

942
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 1: is the it's the same. It's the same. It's the same.

943
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 3: You give me, get you, You get you a young

944
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 3: motherfucking sexy red or something who stuck in the projects

945
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 3: or low income and poverty and struggling and got a

946
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: little bitty job at Walmart or some bullshit they make

947
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: it in me and bitch from the hood and got

948
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 3: some squabble game and nigga hit Come the big bag wharf, nigga,

949
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 3: you know big grab Ball's house. Nigga, come all up

950
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 3: in this house. You know Grandma, you get up in there, nigga,

951
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: it's the big back. But you know you explore the motherfucker.

952
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 3: You're gonna be rich and famous. Girl, Get up in here,

953
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,479
Speaker 3: motherfucking squabble with a couple of motherfuckers and shit, next

954
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 3: thing you know, you're gonna have you a motherfucking rap

955
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: song and a video, and you know you gonna be old.

956
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 3: You're gonna beat cracking so.

957
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: Have you You know, you gotta think about an eight

958
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: and a lot of this ship. Man, I've had, you know,

959
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 2: that smacking contest shit where they got motherfucker's stimps make yeah, yeah, yeah,

960
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: you know I could have did that, man like, I

961
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: could have been six years and seven years ahead of that.

962
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: Dog Like I had the opportunity to do that shit,

963
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: and I said no, I said, man, no, I'm not

964
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: doing that.

965
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: And it was more that ain't the worst thing that

966
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: motherfucker to do. But for what, dog.

967
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: Like I said, some people, like some people you know,

968
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 3: like you said, you might have the morals to go.

969
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to get involved with no type of

970
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 3: shit like that. But just like you action your wife about,

971
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 3: you know, should we do something like that with the

972
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 3: bitches in the house fighting and doing all that shit?

973
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: Are crazy and some of some people might. You know,

974
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure there's been a lot of motherfuckers who

975
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 3: probably looked at that and be and with like, I

976
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 3: don't want to touch that, you feel me. So there's

977
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: a lot of people that have the mind state that

978
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 3: you or I myself might have, like, Okay, it might

979
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 3: be lucrative, right, it might be pretty lucrative in the

980
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: long run.

981
00:53:52,440 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: I just like, sometimes all money ain't good money.

982
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 3: And not to say that it ain't good for them,

983
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 3: but like you said, at what costs? You know, because

984
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's been some some some some frustrations and

985
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: some fed up motherfuckers and some and and some some

986
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 3: some wrongdoings and ship, you know, so like you said,

987
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: at what cost do you want to put yourself on that?

988
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: Nothing?

989
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, eight, I got some reality shows.

990
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 2: I'm about to start producing this some funny ship and

991
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: you know it's what it was, just funny. I'm not

992
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: against comedy, man, I'm just against anything man that's just

993
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: making our people look a certain kind of way.

994
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: That's that's me.

995
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm I feel I get embarrassed by ship, certain ship.

996
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 3: I see, like, damn man, why the fuck they have

997
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 3: to do that? And it's all you know, not not

998
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: to say that other races and other motherfucking people don't

999
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: do just as dumb ship, but like you said, sometimes

1000
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: you be wanting sometimes you want that outcome for people different.

1001
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: And I say, fucking you know, to be saying some

1002
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 3: shit because of how a my uh but you of

1003
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 3: how I start, but you grow and you give me

1004
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 3: and you learn from shit. And that's why I said

1005
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: it's understandable, especially when it's a young person who you

1006
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 3: know hasn't lived a full life yet and don't know

1007
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 3: what it's like to be forty or fifty years old.

1008
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 3: And you know, if they're fortunate enough to make it

1009
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: to that age, then they will understand, you know, at

1010
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 3: that point in.

1011
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: Time, like damn, I was all on.

1012
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 3: Camera fighting bitches and get into it, and you get

1013
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: me and and what image do you want to leave

1014
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 3: for people at the end of the day. And Okay, yeah,

1015
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: you're successful now. And twenty years later, you know you've

1016
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: made millions of dollars and you know you're probably able

1017
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 3: to live comfortable and and your generational people after that

1018
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: will probably be able to hopefully, you know, be successful

1019
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 3: from your rise. But at what costs that you have

1020
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 3: to go through, Like you, like in all situations, you know,

1021
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: we had to go through the bullshit for y'all to

1022
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: be able to have it easy.

1023
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: Today.

1024
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: You feel me and I feel that's just that's one

1025
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 3: that's one of those steps. You get me just like

1026
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 3: us in the beginning of of of hip hop.

1027
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: You get me.

1028
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 3: And there was a lot of ship that we had

1029
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 3: to go through and take on the chi in for

1030
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: motherfuckers to be able to do what the fuck they

1031
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 3: want to do. Today, you can release what the fuck

1032
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: you want to do today. You can you you ain't

1033
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 3: even gotta worry about radio now. You can just have

1034
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 3: your ship streamed on a platform today. And you know

1035
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 3: it's so all that shit niggas had to take on

1036
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: the chin and you know, get the dogs sicked on

1037
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 3: them and all that type of shit, and and maybe

1038
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: that's what they'll be saying, you know, down the road.

1039
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: We had to fight bitches on camera and we had

1040
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 3: to do this. For now you can start your own

1041
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: network like it ain't shit. You know, it used to

1042
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: be used to be just for the big motherfuckers, the

1043
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: ABC movies.

1044
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: And some ship to make millions of dollars. Dog, you

1045
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: make some money.

1046
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: We went through the rough shit of beating bitches asses

1047
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 3: and going through all kinds of crazy shit and showing

1048
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: people that shit you look up after made one hundred

1049
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 3: million dollars from a nigga's fishing of his own because

1050
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: they ain't gonna put this shit on No ABC they

1051
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 3: ain't gonna put this ship. I got an idea for

1052
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 3: a show, you negga putting bitches in the house and

1053
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 3: just let them go out and trap with each other

1054
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: and woo you won't. ABC ain't gonna put that on.

1055
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 3: But the crazy shit is, twenty years from now, you

1056
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 3: might turn ABC and BC on and see motherfuckers fighting

1057
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 3: inside the house on you the fucking Bachelor on the

1058
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 3: On the Bachelor, you get because it's cool, right, They're

1059
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 3: gonna popularize it now to wear a shit, So you

1060
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: might see two niggas on The Bachelor getting into it

1061
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: over or if two females getting into it. You know,

1062
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 3: it's just the criteria of what is accepted. You feel me, man,

1063
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, Doug Will.

1064
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: Can you imagine imagine watching the Bachelorette and watching niggas

1065
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: fighting on the Bachelorette over the bitch on ABC? You

1066
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: get me.

1067
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: They would never have that because I'm gonna tell you, man,

1068
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: and I don't like to shit black and white, but

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Speaker 2: they ain't gonna never make themselves look crazy like that.

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