1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: ESPN's Jorge Castillo joining us right now. Jorge, thank you 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: for the time. Nice article. Just put out their twenty 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: twenty six MLB trade deadline ideal moves for the Yankees 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: and the Mets. This is a great way to get 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: these two fan bases excited on different ends of the spectrum. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: So let's start with the Yankees. Can you lay out 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: what your ideal plan was for them, because I think 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: they'd be very excited talking about Yanks fans. 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, it's the way to get them excited or 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: pissed at you one or the other. You know, it's uh, 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: you know, got fancy to get angry nowadays with you know, 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: all the rumors and stuff, but you know, trying to 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: feed the beast. I mean, at this point of the year, 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: we're just trying to gather as much intel as we can. 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: Obviously you know on the team side, agent side, you know, 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 2: they want to share what they want to share at 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: this point, right there are moves that are going to 18 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: happen between now and Monday that are just like out 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: of left field. And then the mead for Connell, the 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: early deal came out of nowhere and that was a 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: huge deal. So based on what I gathered, what I've talked, 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: you know, talking to people. Mason Miller was number one. Again, 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 2: this is ideal, right, I think that the Yankees looking 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 2: to upgrade their bullpend. Their pullpen has been one of 25 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: the best in baseball since June first, the best in 26 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: baseball by most metrics. You know, you got Fernando Cruz, 27 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: you got Brent Hedrick, Paul Blackburn as that bridge to 28 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: David Bednar. Now how do you improve that? I mean, 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 2: Mason Miller is the best reliever, best closer in baseball 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: and the best closer and I don't know, maybe he's 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: since Marianno Rivera at this point. So I think just 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: getting a guy like that and having Bednard moved to 33 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: the eighth thinning, then you move all those other guys 34 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: down and the pecking order makes that bullpen all the more, 35 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: all the better. And Mason Miller obviously has three years 36 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: of control after this year. And Brian Cashman one of 37 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: his things in recent years, he loves acquiring guys at 38 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: the deadline with control beyond that season. He does not 39 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: go for rentals often. Met Rosario was the rare one 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: off last year. But if you look at the guys 41 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: he got last year, Camille the Ball, David Bednard, Jake Byrd, 42 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: Ryan McMahon, Jose Alberiro. Those guys all had control. Jash 43 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: Chisham a couple of years ago, Mark Later, Junior a 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: couple of years ago. So he prefers guys to the control, 45 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: which leads me to number two, a guy who does 46 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: not have control beyond this year, Ryan Jeffers. And it's 47 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: very obvious that the Yankees need a catcher. They've had 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: among them and the White Sox I think had the 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: worst production behind the plate offensively. Austin Wells has been 50 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: a huge disappointment. It started off with him and Jesse Ascara. 51 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: Now it's been Ali Sanchez behind the plate alongside Wells 52 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: against lefties and then in your right handed hitting catcher, 53 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: Ryan Jeffers has made sense forever since the offseason I've 54 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: been writing it. He makes a ton of sense for them. 55 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: The Twins say that I want to sell, They're going 56 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 2: for it, but Ryan, they can do both. They can 57 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: trade Ryan Jeffers and add to the bullpen, which has 58 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: been a huge problem for the Twins this season. Ryan 59 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: Jeffers has been one of the best catchers when he's 60 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: been healthy this year, and the Twins have the most 61 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: run scored in the American League and they haven't had 62 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: Ryan Jeffers for most of the seasons, so maybe they think, hey, 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: we can trade him and add to the bullpen and 64 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: then lastly Zach that put dak Netto in. There can 65 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 2: be any sort of impact right handed bat. The Yankees 66 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: are going through it right now, offensively without Aaron Judge obviously, 67 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 2: but also without young Carlos Steon and recently Cody Bellinger. 68 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: It can be a right handed hitting outfielder. It could 69 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: be a short stop like a zach Netto, who you know, 70 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 2: would cost a lot. You guys are just talking about 71 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: the Angels. Maybe the Angels are more willing to trade 72 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: controllable guys like a zach Netto, but that price would 73 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: be steep. But I think the Yankees are looking for 74 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: another right handed hitting bat beyond the catcher. 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 3: All right, all right, let's start with this. First of all, 76 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: Bran Cashman usually doesn't make Hue trades in the middle 77 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: of the season, So okay, fine, let's say he does. 78 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 3: Mason Miller one hundred percent makes sense. But you want 79 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: to know why Yankee fans are going to be pissed 80 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: off at you because Anthony Vuolpi and Austin Wells are 81 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: the future of the Yankees and you have them losing 82 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: their jobs. So that is why the Yankee fans are 83 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: going to be pissed off you. Not because these trades 84 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: all make sense, but because those guys have been the 85 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: basically the two guys that the Yankees have talked about 86 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: for years and years being the next Core. Yes, have 87 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: they performed, no, But at the end of the day, 88 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: you're trying to get rid of them out of jobs. Hey, 89 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: So therefore, Yankee fans are gonna hate you for life. 90 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: And man, I'm sensitive. This is one thing about like 91 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: being reporting nowadays, and you know this week with the 92 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: trade rumors and all that You're sensitives are the fact, 93 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: I know it's a joking matter about both and Wells, 94 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: but you are sensitive the fact these guys have lives. 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: You know, they have to upend their lives. They have 96 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: families and stuff, and you're throwing these guys in rumors 97 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: like they're just like, you know, not people. So that 98 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 2: is the top part of the job in my opinion. 99 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: Maybe I sympathize little too much in that regard, but hey, 100 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: the Yankees. Wells has been disappointing both He's actually been 101 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: pretty good in his role against lefties this year, and 102 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: he's been pretty good defensively since he got you know, 103 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: since he came up and off the injured lists and 104 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: from the minors. So maybe the Yankees don't view that 105 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: as a huge issue right now, but I think it's 106 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 2: an area that they could upgreen. 107 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 4: How aggressive can the Yankees actually be if they truly 108 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: believe the imaging that they get or don't get or 109 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 4: we don't know what's happening with Judge, if Judge, if 110 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 4: they believe on August first, a Judge is not coming back, 111 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 4: how do they make a super aggressive move to win 112 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: the World Series. 113 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a huge, just a million dollar question 114 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: right now. Is Aaron Judge coming back? And the Yankees 115 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: keep saying that they're they're hopeful that he will come back, 116 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: and if he does come back, this is a window 117 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: for the Yankees. Garrett Cole is awesome coming back from TJ. 118 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: I don't remember a guy looking that good that soon 119 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 2: coming off TJ. He's he's looking like Garrett Cole right now. 120 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: And he's in his mid thirties and Aaron Judge is 121 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: thirty four years old, and if he does come back, 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 2: how big is this window for the Yankees with this 123 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: scroup but two feature Hall of famers. I think they 124 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: have to maximize this window. Now the Yankees will say, hey, 125 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: our window is always open with the New York Yankees, 126 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: but it's not very often you have one of the best, 127 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if Garrett Cole at his 128 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: peak when he's at the top of his game, top five, 129 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: top teachers, top ten pitchers in baseball, Aaron Judge best 130 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: hitter in baseball when he's going. So I think you 131 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 2: have to be a little aggressive. This is not a 132 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: typical year in my opinion. You don't know if it's 133 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 2: gonna be baseball next year. On top of that, so 134 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: if there is no baseball next year, Aaron just thirty 135 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 2: six years old. On the other side, Garrett Cole is 136 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: what thirty seven, thirty eight, So I think the Yankees 137 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: this could be a unique year with the Yankees say hey, 138 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 2: let's go for let's really go for it. I mean, now, 139 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,119 Speaker 2: Brian Cashman made the barred seven guys at the traded 140 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: one last year. They weren't huge names, but he made them. 141 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: He really changed that roster, that bullpen, the bench. This year, 142 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: I think they can go a little bigger. Now. The 143 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: question is are they willing to trade George Lombard Junior. 144 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 2: I don't think they are, which means that maybe Mason 145 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: Miller doesn't come to the Bronx because if they're not 146 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: willing to trade George Lombar Junior, I bet you some 147 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: of the teams out there are willing to trade their 148 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: top prospects for a guy like that. 149 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 3: Well, that leads to that leads to my question is 150 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: do the Yankees have enough to do all these things 151 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: that you're talking about. Spencer Jones hasn't been the player 152 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 3: that the Yankees hyped him up to, be right, What 153 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 3: other pieces do they have If they're not willing to 154 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: trade a Lombard for these pieces, do they have enough 155 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: in their farm system. I know everyone hypes up the 156 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: Yankees prospect. He's a Yankee prospect. He's got to be great. 157 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 3: They're one of the best teams at it. But do 158 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: they actually have enough players in the minor leagues to 159 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: get all these moves done? Because it's a lot of moves, 160 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: and it's impact moves that you listed here. 161 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you can just look at it 162 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: as the minor league guys, just the prospects the Yankees 163 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: are willing to trade from their major league roster. Uh, 164 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: and that includes out me. You mentioned Specer Jones, He's 165 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: right now in the big league. Hit the three round 166 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: hormonn last time against the White Sox. Jason the Menga 167 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: is still Yeah, they did lose. That was that was 168 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: a tough loss the way that ended Jason's Themengas is 169 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: still young. It seems like he's been around forever, but 170 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 2: he hasn't been and he has injuries. You know, He's 171 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: had to start, stop and start a lot, you know 172 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: in his career between injuries and starting the year in 173 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: the minor leagues and killing it there in Tripa coming up, 174 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: crashing into the wall, hurting his shoulder, going back on 175 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: the il. So those are two guys. Uh, There's obviously 176 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: the guys in the minor in the leagues, but it's 177 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 2: also hey, Will Warren, Ryan Weathers. 178 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 179 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: Could those guys be on the move because starting pitching 180 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: is always this time of the year, everyone's looking for 181 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: starting pitching. Those guys are too control rollable starting pitchers. 182 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: The Yankees have a surplus on paper of starting pitching. 183 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: That rotation is when healthy, when Carloswoodin comes back, If 184 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 2: and when he comes back, there's not going to be 185 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: room for all those guys. So at some point, you know, 186 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: Brian Cashman, I imagine it's thinking, okay, maybe we trade 187 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: from this to make it, you know, upgrade, whether it's 188 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: behind the plate and the bullpen, shortstop, wherever it may be. 189 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 2: So I think you have to add that. You have 190 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: to add that they do have some major few major 191 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: leaguers who they can add in trades that aren't really 192 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: part of the plans here for you know, the remainder 193 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: of the season, because if Cody Bellinger and Aaron Judge 194 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: come back, Spencer Jones is not on the major league roster, 195 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 2: Jason Demingez is not playing very much if you add 196 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: John Carlos stand even less. So so I think there 197 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: are moves to be you know, there are pieces to 198 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: move from the big league roster. 199 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: There would be pieces to move if not everybody was hurt. 200 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: Don't they need to address that the trade deadline, the 201 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 4: Cody Bellinger injury, because that's on top of the Aaron 202 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: Judge and now you have these quote unquote star prospects 203 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 4: from the minor leagues kind of being mid in the 204 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: big leagues. 205 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: Don't they have to address that. 206 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 4: Don't they have to get like a Dalton var Show 207 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: to be able to run around in center field. For 208 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: I get it, he's left handed, but there's not a 209 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 4: lot of right handed hitting. Don't they need that to 210 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: solidify what they lost in Cody and have lost since 211 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: essentially may in Judge. 212 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for that third one where I put 213 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: in Netto, I think you could put Taylor Ward there 214 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: or someone like him, or Lane Thomas or you know. 215 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: I know those aren't the biggest names, but they would 216 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: help and they would help Bridge this time without Judge 217 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 2: and Bellinger and Sting. I do think that's a possibility. 218 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: Maybe it is on top of someone else who could 219 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: play shortstop. I mean, again, that's a lot. I think 220 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: they go for one or the other. There are options 221 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: out there on the market, whether it's controllable guys rentals, 222 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: that's something that they could do. But yeah, the offense 223 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: is going through it right now just because of those injuries. 224 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: It's kind of all that wants here. But the Yankees 225 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 2: do seem comp that those guys are going to come back. 226 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: So how how willing are you to give up guys 227 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: that can help you out in the future, you know, 228 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: for these next four to six weeks, you know, two 229 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: months to bridge you to the two October That that 230 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 2: is a question. I don't know the answer too, frankly. 231 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: I just know the areas that they're looking at and 232 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: the potential people that they're that are available, both on 233 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: the Yankee side and in the market. 234 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: All right, well, what about the more exciting team, the 235 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 4: team that's been not so good in New York, the Mets. 236 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,319 Speaker 4: What is the wish list that you see or you 237 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: see happening or should happen for the Mets to get better? 238 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 4: But also you know reset here at the trade deadline. 239 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the thing with the Mets is, all right, 240 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: they're gonna sell. Obviously, they're one of the few declared 241 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: sellers right now, like for sure, one hundred percent. We're 242 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: not messing around. We're not going to pretend we're selling. 243 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: The question the thing is with the Mets is they're 244 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: trying to win next year. This is the team that 245 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: still has WONSTA and Francisco Lodoor and you know, aj 246 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: Ewing and Carson, Benjeb really good as rookies in the outfield. 247 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: This year, you got Nolan McLain. They're trying to win 248 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: next year. Steve Cohen is not trying to point on 249 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. Yeah, he's not gonna do that. He's 250 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: trying to win. So you got to balance that. Now, 251 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: the wishless, the wishless. I came up with number one. 252 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: You unload all those guys are about to be free 253 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: agents because they're not gonna be on the team next year. 254 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 2: Most likely starts with Freddy Peralta, Luis Robert Jr. Who 255 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: came back off the ange list. He's hit two on runs, 256 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: hasn't done much else but right handed hitting, the guy 257 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: who could play center field. Guys always want that. The 258 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: Mets Pop might have to pay that down a little bit. 259 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 2: He's not gonna get much in terms of prospects. You 260 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: trade him, you trade play Homes, You trade Tyrol Taylor, 261 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: who's been hot at the plate as of late since 262 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 2: coming off the injured list. You trade you know, off 263 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: the top of my head, I'm forgetting already who all 264 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: the free agents that they have, but they oh the 265 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: two lefties Brooks rarely Aj Minter. And then you got 266 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: play Holmes. To me, who's like their best trade piece. 267 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: Clay Holmes is a guy who, you know, before he 268 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: took that comebacker from Spencer Jones, City Field had a 269 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: two three nine ERA and nine starts. He was really good. 270 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: He was coming into his own and his second year back, 271 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: you know, as a starting pitcher after being you know, 272 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: All Star reliever with the Yankees. So I think he's 273 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: someone who's gonna have a huge He has a huge market, 274 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: So I think getting you know, trading him and converting 275 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 2: that into whatever, you know, whatever prospects you can is imperative. 276 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: The number two on my list, you know, getting a 277 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 2: big return for two relievers, two controllable relievers. Walstar Brads 278 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: Labond has been really good this season. He's also thirty 279 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: six years old, like low key, like you don't really 280 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 2: think about Brazneman being thirty sixties. You feel like he 281 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: just came on the scene because he debuted at thirty 282 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: two years old. But he's controllable for three years beyond 283 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 2: this one. And then you got Luke Weaver, who here 284 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 2: in New York. Both sides know him very well. He's 285 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: you know, came on this came on on the scene, 286 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: burst onto the scene with the Yankees as a reliever 287 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 2: two years ago. He's a you know, he can He's 288 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: obviously shown he can handle his market, he can handle 289 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: big time games. You know, he's in the first in 290 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: the first year of a twenty two million dollar contract. 291 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 2: I think the Mets can get quite a bit for him. 292 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: He had a scoreless inning, scoreless gamestreak that went for 293 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: like two months. This year, he's been really really good 294 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: for them. Again, going back to what I said originally 295 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: with the Mets, he could also help you on twenty 296 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: twenty seven. But you know, bullpens can be volatile. Relievers 297 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 2: can be volatile. Though Weaver has really established himself as 298 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: one of the best here in the last couple of years. 299 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: And then number three. You know, something that stuck out 300 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 2: to me last Friday when David Stearns talked to the media, was, hey, 301 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: we need to start in pitching for next year because 302 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: you know they're gonna trade Friday Peralta, They're gonna trade 303 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: play homes. Joanna tong is not how they had good 304 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: year in Triple A. Zak Thorton has looked really good. 305 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: Christian Scott, who looked really good. Nolan mcclaying, seanm and 306 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: Ny has actually had a little bounce back here recently. 307 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: But they do need to go get a starter or 308 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: two and why not try to do that? Now, you 309 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: know a guy like a Red Detmers, who who's controllable 310 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: beyond this year, who's under the hood numbers are a 311 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: lot better than his surface numbers. Obviously, that will cost 312 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: you something. Maybe you know, you trade from the big 313 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 2: league team, you trade down the miners, you make some 314 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: kind of package for that. I do think we Detmers 315 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: is available. So someone like that for the future for 316 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven and beyond, I think would be on 317 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: the Mets wish lists. But I know for the first 318 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: two items, I think they're going to trade all those guys. 319 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a very busy four or 320 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 2: five days here for the Mets. 321 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: Wow, I mean this is a lot. David Turns, I 322 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: hope he has the unlimited plan on his cell phone 323 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: with all this going on. 324 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: Right he has the rollover minutes. 325 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: Does he? Because he hasn't been doing anything offseason, so 326 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: now he's rolling it over to now because it was 327 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: so inactive this offseason. When I look at this list 328 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: it all again. All these almost make too much sense. 329 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: That's why none of them will happen. But I think 330 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: they should trade Luise Robert back to Chicago because you 331 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: know he said there's no fans. Well, if you watch 332 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: the Yankee White Sox game last night, there was forty 333 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: thousand fans in the stand, So I think they would 334 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: be perfect. Send Luis Roberts asks back to Chicago. Let 335 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 3: him get the proper introduction, which would be hopefully boot 336 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: out of the stadium, and then you know, whatever happens, 337 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: and they in that way, the White Sox could send 338 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 3: back nothing and the Mets could pay all his salary. 339 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 3: He could go back and sit on the bench. 340 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 2: Are you gonna send back Liise Acuna, who hasn't been 341 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: very good? 342 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys, just flip them back. 343 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: You can put them right back a middle infielder. Here 344 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: you go. 345 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agreed. 346 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 347 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: I have a little bitterness towards Louise Robert after he 348 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: said the comments about White Sox fans, and I thought 349 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: were completely unnecessary. So you know, he yeah, he hasn't 350 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: been very good with the White Sox, and he hasn't 351 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: been very good with the Mets. 352 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, and he's a guy who you know, he 353 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 2: has all the tools in the world, he just hasn't 354 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: put put it together about five years. So it's you know, 355 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: it's interesting that that that's an interesting case. He's a 356 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: twenty million dollars club option for next year that won't 357 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: get picked up. He's gonna be a free agent this offseason. 358 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: And like I said, you know, Louise Robert, he had 359 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: his back injury. He missed a bunch of time. He's 360 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: a guy who's not producing. So why would a team 361 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: trade for him? Because he hits right handed and he 362 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: plays center field. You know that those are rare commodities 363 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: at this point. You know, ahead of the trade deadline, 364 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: teams are always looking for right hand and hitting guys 365 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: who have in the past, and he's done it in 366 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: the past. 367 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: He has to play though the keyword there is play. 368 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 4: So who is the most valuable piece? Is it Luke Weaver? 369 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: Is it a team that's willing to say? I think 370 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 4: the Mets broke Freddy Peralta and we can fix him. 371 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: Who's the most valuable piece? 372 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: I think it's between Clay Holmes and Luke Weaver. I 373 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: think Clay Holmes looking really I mean just watching him. 374 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: I got to watch most of his starts in person 375 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: before he went down. He looked really good, in command, 376 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: in control. He throws hard, he's a ground ball guy, 377 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: but he's also getting his strikeouts. He's for me. Everyone 378 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: I talked to, great clubhouse guy. Everyone loves Clay Holmes. 379 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: No one says a bad word about him. And then 380 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: Luke Weaver because you know it's a reliever versus the starter. 381 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: But Luke Weaver has controlled beyond this year and he's 382 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: now on year three of being a really good reliever 383 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: at the major league level, one of the best. So 384 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: I think it's between those two. And you mentioned that 385 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: Freddie Peralta thing. I do think there are teams out 386 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: there that think, not only could we fix Freddy Peralta, 387 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: but like just get him out of New York and 388 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 2: like just get him away from what was going on there. 389 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: Maybe a fresh start the Mets infield defense to start 390 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: the season. That Bobachett, who was not good over there 391 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: to start the year, who has been better recently than 392 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: they had. Francisco and Dora go down, so they had 393 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: to move Boba Cheft to short. Marcus Simon has regressed 394 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: terribly at second base this year, and at first base 395 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 2: it was supposed to be Polongco. He lasted about two 396 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: games and then there was a rotation there at first 397 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: base of guys. Infield defense wasn't very good. I'll field 398 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: defense has been good with with ing in bench, so 399 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: maybe teams just thinking, hey, with a little better infield defense, 400 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 2: Parolta will be maybe I don't know, pepper the strike 401 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: zone a little bit more or whatever, get a little 402 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: more confidence. But yeah, it's been a terrible year for 403 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 2: Fredick Peralta. He's about a five v R. Maybe it 404 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: changes scenery. This is a guy, in my opinion, he 405 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: you know, he was sort of advertised as like an 406 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 2: ace type when he got traded over here. He's never 407 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: been that he's been. He's sort of a number three 408 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: to me on like a really good team, a World 409 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: Series level team, And I think that's how the team 410 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 2: is probably the view one at this point. He's had 411 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 2: two All Stars seasons, been really good last year, had 412 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: a great year of two seven ERA. But to me, 413 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: he's not like a top tier tier guy, you know, 414 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: like elite. He's like a mid rotation guy. And I 415 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: think a team there are teams out there thirsting for 416 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 2: starting pitching. The Chicago Cubs come to mind. Actually, the 417 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: Mets already traded the clubs are starting pitching David petersoner 418 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: of this year, and David Peterson has been pretty good 419 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: for the Cubs compared to what he was with the Mets, 420 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: So maybe they relinked there and figure it out. But 421 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: I think Freddy Perolta could help a team down this stretch. 422 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: And Freddy Pearlt is another guy, great club boss guy. 423 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: No one said a bad word about him. Everyone seems 424 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: to love him, so I don't think that's gonna be 425 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: a shwiddle. 426 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 4: Uh Jorge, you know who also thought Freddy Parolta was 427 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: elite the Mets. Who's the Mets? The Mets this offseason. 428 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: They thought he was the guy that I saw make 429 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 4: the next progression. So here's here's I mean. David Stearns 430 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 4: isn't afraid of the only thing he's afraid of his 431 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: long term contracts. Is David sterns afraid. And give me 432 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: a percentage of the chance that Lin Door gets moved. 433 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: I would put it at zero point zero zero zero 434 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: zero one percent chance. I'm not gonna sit here and 435 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: say something's not gonna happen, because, like I said, like 436 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: we can see stuff out of left field here, I 437 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: might get a tweet from Jeff right now it says 438 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 2: something happened, as like blows my mind, right. So I'm 439 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 2: not gonna say no that there's no chance. I just 440 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: don't from what I've been told, it's not gonna happen. 441 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 2: So things changed, But I don't expect Francisco Indoor to 442 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 2: get traded. And just frankly, I think it's hard to 443 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: trade that kind of player, making that kind of money, 444 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: that kind of contract in the middle of the season 445 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: with so much uncertainty next year about you know, is 446 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: there gonna be a capus. They're not gonna be a cat. 447 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: It's gonna be baseball next year. So I think that's 448 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: more of an off season. If the Mets ultimately decide, hey, 449 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: we want to trade the Francisco Indoor, that to me 450 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: is more of an off season. Both. 451 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for putting this to bed, because 452 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 3: every time the Mets come up, it's oh, Lindor might 453 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: be Lindor's not getting traded in the middle of the season. 454 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: It's anything else. It's way too calm, so like you'd 455 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 2: be selling him like thirty cents on the dollar. He's 456 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: not having a he was hurt. He hasn't been Francisco 457 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: as a blake. He's looked like Francisco Lindor, But for 458 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: most of the year he has not been Francisco Lindor 459 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 2: when he's been healthy. So why would you trade him now? 460 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense. And on top of that, 461 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 2: you're trying to win in twenty twenty seven. Like I 462 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: didn't understand it either, like the whole like trade Lindor, 463 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: this's the whole Indoor and Soto thing and whatnot. That's 464 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 2: not the reason why they're not winning this year, you know. 465 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: So I think they're going to keep him and maybe 466 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: down the line and something happens. 467 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: All right, One more I want to know about a 468 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 3: couple of war players. Actually one one is the other 469 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: Francisco Francisco Alvarez. He's not going anywhere, correct, and then Bore. 470 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: They're not going to trade bo. They can't trade Bo 471 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 3: right now because you mentioned the thirty cents on the dollar. 472 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well with Boba, shed is interesting. He hasn't no 473 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: trade class. So if he doesn't want to go anywhere, 474 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: he won't go anywhere. On top of that, if he 475 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 2: gets traded. He actually was, so actually that's not if 476 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: he gets traded. So Bobachet's basically on a three He's 477 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 2: on a three year contract that are essentially it's essentially 478 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: three one year contracts. So he's gonna he can opt 479 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: out after this year, and if he opts out, he 480 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 2: gets five million dollars, which is like a rare thing 481 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: I haven't really seen before with a contract. His situation 482 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: is weird, his contract's weird. His production. He's been really 483 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: good since June. The beginning of June, he's more like 484 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: the Bolbaschet we're used to seeing. He's been really good 485 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 2: again with the runners in scoring position. He's the guy 486 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: who's up there hacking. He's not gonna walk very much, 487 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: but he's been better since the beginning of June. He's 488 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: been really good at third base the last couple of 489 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: months as well. Whether a team season as a third 490 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: baseman or second basement in the future, we'll see. I 491 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: don't expect Bobaschet to get moved. He's another guy who 492 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: could help him out in twenty twenty seven if he 493 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 2: does off back in which I think is the expectation 494 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: right now, but I could be wrong. And then when 495 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: Francisco Alvareza, he's another dude who's like hitting really well 496 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: as a late like he's been. He has close to 497 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: an eight hundred ops. There aren't that many catchers with 498 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 2: his numbers this season. He's a guy obviously a top 499 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: prospect when it came up injuries like I think he's 500 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: had like every wrist, hand, thumb injury in the book 501 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: the last three years, stopping and starting kDa meniscus tear. 502 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: This season came back from that, it's been really good. 503 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: I do wonder if the Mets say, hey, you know what, 504 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: maybe we can turn this into some value elsewhere. We 505 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: could maybe you know, whether it's starting pitching or another 506 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 2: area that we could use. But you know, catching is tough. 507 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: Catching is hard to find catchers that can hit, and 508 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: this guy can hit. If he stays healthy, he's gonna hit. Now, 509 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: whether he's gonna be good enough behind the plate receiving 510 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 2: pitch calling, we'll see about that. The Mets have had 511 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: their issues with him. Last year. He was sent to 512 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: the minors partly because of that he wasn't hitting, but 513 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: on top of that, defensively and behind the plate receiving. 514 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 2: He just wasn't there. So Francisco Alvarest and me is 515 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: a super talented guy who could have some value out 516 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: in the market. Ultimately, I don't think he gets traded. 517 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 2: Luis Terrenz is also getting a lot of love, a 518 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: lot of teams gre interested in him. He's signed two 519 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 2: year extension, making about four and a half million in 520 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 2: the next two years. I believe it is off the 521 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: top of my head. And he is a defense first guy, 522 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: another guy great clubhouse guy. And I don't know, maybe 523 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: they the Mets do move one of them. I mean, 524 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: it's not with the out of the realm of possibility. 525 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: The Mets are listening on to everybody. You're listening on 526 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: everybody not named Juan Sodo, Carson, benj aj Ewing, Nolan McLain, 527 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: Christian Scott and Frances Belondor. That's my understanding. Everyone else, 528 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: we're listening. You got offers. We want to hear him. 529 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: The Mets have the best clubhouse in the world. Every 530 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: guy's a great clubhouse guy. But all yours rumors of 531 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: a bad clubhouse, right, so something, something doesn't add up there, 532 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 3: because that's all you've heard. 533 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 5: But you've you've made it a great club, great clubhouse. 534 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm telling you, Sean and I to the list. 535 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 5: Nothing that everyone like yeah, so like they you know, 536 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 5: it's it's all this focus has been on the door 537 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 5: and Sodo. You know obviously just you guys have been 538 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 5: in club Eric and Ada, you guys have been in 539 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 5: club asses. Man Like when you lose, yeah, no one 540 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 5: is happy. I mean I don't know, Like it's the Mets. 541 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: They were expected to win this year, that World Series expectations. 542 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: Jan Soto gets injured like a week into the season 543 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: and Francisco and Doorro gets injured the day he comes 544 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: back at that twelve game losing streaking between why would 545 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: the vibes be good, I'd be wondering why if they 546 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,479 Speaker 2: were good, I'd be like, wait, what's going on here? 547 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: You guys should be all pissed off. Yeah, the vibes 548 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: weren't great. It was. It was terrible there for and 549 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 2: it's been terrible all season and they know it. 550 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 1: Hey, last one, I'll bring one fan question in here, 551 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: just throwing out a trade idea, and even if you 552 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: don't specifically agree with the idea, just to playoff where 553 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: the Mets heads are at Bridger in the chat, Mets 554 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: were really interested in Bubba Chandler in the offseason. I 555 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: could see, although I don't know where he found that, 556 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: because I don't know why the Pirates would have had 557 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: someone like that available, But anyway, I could see a 558 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: package of Weaver or Brasabon and prospects for Chandler, who's 559 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: having a down year. 560 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 2: What do you think, I don't think so. I think 561 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 2: the Pirates. I think the Pirates. You get Bubba Junin's 562 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 2: too valuable, and that's their thing right now? Is that 563 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: rotation now? They definitely do. They're they're looking for help 564 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: in the bullpen. That's one thousand percent, and they need 565 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 2: it because that rotation is very real and that offense, 566 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: you know, those additions they've made during the off season. 567 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: Ryan o'harn't been allowed. Very real that they're they're hitting 568 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 2: as Merlin Valdez. I don't know that dude looks like 569 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 2: two thousand and one albut pooholes like it's crazy how 570 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: good he's been. But they need some bullpen help. I 571 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 2: don't think it's Bubba Chandler though, I mean, that's no, 572 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: that's my too, Steep. I get, I get. 573 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: You know, you might look at a Connolly early moving 574 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: over in a trade for Curtis Meet and go, oh, 575 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: maybe controllable pitching, and hey, if you can get some 576 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: controllable young pitching, go for it. 577 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: But that I agree too, Steep. 578 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: But I like where their head's at, because the Pirates 579 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: should be calling about both of those relievers. Their bullpen 580 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: has been a disaster all season long. 581 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 2: This was great. Another thing, but yeah, one more thing, 582 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: another thing like Luke Weaver is too expensive for the Pirates. 583 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: I mean, let's just be honest. He's making eleven million 584 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: next year. You think the Pirate's going to pay that. 585 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: That's not really their thing, So maybe a Brosibondo. 586 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: Although the Pirates just discovered something. If you spend like 587 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of money, you might make the playoffs 588 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: and make way more money. 589 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: It might happen this year. 590 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: It was the first time that they I'm not saying 591 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 1: the whole organization discovered it, but getting permission to spend 592 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: a little bitty extra money this past offseason has gone 593 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: a long way their contenders suddenly. So we're hey, good stuff, man, 594 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: great to catch up. 595 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 2: Thanks for the time, No problem, For guys, thanks for 596 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: having me on