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Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody? John Middlecoff three and Out podcast

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Speaker 1: back at it again, recording this on a Valentine's Day. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you're getting ready for it or just actually

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Speaker 1: you just had it, because this is you're listening to

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Speaker 1: this on Friday or the weekend. Hopefully you guys had

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Speaker 1: a good week, kind of mellow time right now, not

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Speaker 1: that much going on, but we'll get through it. The

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Speaker 1: combines right around the corner, and I mean a big

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Speaker 1: trade happened yesterday. I'm gonna dive right into that. Joe

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Speaker 1: Flacco goes to the Denver Broncos. Where that leaves the

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Speaker 1: Ravens kind of some thoughts on this never ending drama

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Speaker 1: that Antonio Brown and listen as someone that uses Twitter

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Speaker 1: for their business and it's literally since I've been in

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Speaker 1: the media, help me get financially, take big steps. I

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Speaker 1: just don't agree in his stance what he's doing. It

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Speaker 1: really doesn't make any sense. And then we'll get into

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Speaker 1: the Middlecoff mail bag. You can always I will do

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Speaker 1: a big Middlecoff mail bag. I got a bunch of questions. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle, Fire me

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Speaker 1: a d M there wide open, the same thing as

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Speaker 1: my Twitter handle. You can just fly up in the

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Speaker 1: d m s. They're always wide open. Asked me anything, college, pro, personal,

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Speaker 1: I don't care, and I'll answer it on this show.

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Speaker 1: But let's start with John Elway and Joe Flacco. My

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Speaker 1: first reaction when I saw Adam Schefter's tweet was gross.

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Speaker 1: That is disgusting. I can't believe he just did that.

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Speaker 1: I have been someone that has supported John Elway as

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Speaker 1: a general manager. His career speaks for itself, right, one

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Speaker 1: of the top five quarterbacks ever. He actually had a

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Speaker 1: He might have been doing that while he was playing.

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Speaker 1: Stanford guy. He's really sharp. I've always admired John Elway,

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Speaker 1: and then he became a GM and one of his

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Speaker 1: first moves was get rid of Tim Tebow, kind of

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Speaker 1: this circus that surrounded him even though he had just

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Speaker 1: and I think we forget like that was a pretty intense,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of coop for them. I think Hardball,

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Speaker 1: who actually had a decent team. Then Tennessee Titans were

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Speaker 1: like offering an ownership and he got them, and then

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Speaker 1: it changed the franchise for four years. And whenever you

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Speaker 1: get good in football, I think people crushed general managers

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Speaker 1: when they have bad years drafting. It is so hard

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Speaker 1: to draft in the late twenties. Usually means you're good,

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Speaker 1: right because you're going to the playoffs, and then you're

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Speaker 1: picking at the end of the rounds. Well, what happens

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Speaker 1: at the end of the rounds most of the good

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Speaker 1: players are going. It would be like if you're listening

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Speaker 1: to this and you hire people. If you if you

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Speaker 1: up with some shitty employees. It's just you know, it's

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Speaker 1: just a numbers game. And then last year when the

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Speaker 1: team was bad, he crushed his draft. It was awesome. Hell,

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Speaker 1: his undrafted free agent I think became the first undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agent running back to ever make a Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay, but he has a major problem. He can't

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Speaker 1: figure out the quarterback, which is kind of ironic. John

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Speaker 1: Elway is a quarterback, but ever since Peyton Manning, it's

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Speaker 1: been packing Lynch. I actually kind of like Trevor Simeon

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Speaker 1: but you can't go like, once you get a hole

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Speaker 1: can't just keep putting silly putty in it, like eventually

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Speaker 1: version of case Keenum. Now Joe Flacco's career, much better player.

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Speaker 1: But this is two thousand nineteen. This isn't he wanted

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Speaker 1: super Bowl two thousand twelve. It was a two thousand

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Speaker 1: twelve season. Super Bowl happen in two thousand and thirteen.

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Speaker 1: That's a long time ago. I think sometimes we talk

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Speaker 1: The last four years I have it down. He's sixty

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Speaker 1: I get like he's just a better version of case Keenum,

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Speaker 1: everywhere in life. When you hire someone and he's one way,

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Speaker 1: head coach. Again, that's on John Elway. He's the guy hiring,

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Speaker 1: So what does he do this time? Hire like a

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Speaker 1: I get it. He really wanted Fangio because the best

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Speaker 1: so you have to hire him as your head coach.

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Speaker 1: this should not stop him from drafting a guy. And

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Speaker 1: be aggressive. And that's probably what he tell you. I

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Speaker 1: have been a lot of rumors that he likes Drew Lock.

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Speaker 1: John Elway said after the season. He had to sleep

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Speaker 1: And it just isn't very good. And the Broncos are

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Speaker 1: I said after the playoff game, when it became kind

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Speaker 1: I had an idea for John Harbaugh. I would leave

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Speaker 1: simply because their best asset, excuse me, the most important

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Speaker 1: great asset. But the Ravens asset was Lamar Jackson. I

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Speaker 1: I get it. He feels loyalty there. He likes the

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Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen. It's probably always been this way, but

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Speaker 1: right now and you can't deliver on the internet, Like,

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Speaker 1: if you can't deliver it to my house, you're probably

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Speaker 1: if I want TVs, every thing, I want, everything possible,

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Speaker 1: And whether this is good or bad for society, it's

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson wasn't accurate in college. He clearly wasn't accurate

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Speaker 1: his first year with the Ravens. Well under. I'll give

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Speaker 1: him somewhat of a pass. Playoff games are hard, but

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Speaker 1: he was well under in that game. It was an abomination,

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Speaker 1: this guy has become pretty polarizing over the years. Colin Kaepernick,

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Speaker 1: simply Colin Kaepernick, who And I'm not even comparing him

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Speaker 1: to Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson will never be as good

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Speaker 1: I watched him. He struggled throwing the wheel route, basic

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Speaker 1: about just the basic layup passes. My guy, Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 1: guy that covers uh the Steelers, who I forget his name,

426
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Speaker 1: but his his take was basically like Antonio. The first

427
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Speaker 1: three or four years was great, easy to talk to.

428
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Speaker 1: Was this very normal? Clearly? I mean he was a

429
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Speaker 1: six round pick. He came out actually early, was under

430
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Speaker 1: the radar those first couple of years because they had

431
00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,640
Speaker 1: Mike Wallace, Emmanuel Sanders, and then all all of a sudden,

432
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: he became a b and he's become this persona of

433
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: the last four or five years, and he's living in

434
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: his own little world like he's operating like an NBA star.

435
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,479
Speaker 1: But the problem is, and again, the NFL controls you.

436
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: The coaching staff controls you. Hell, your quarterback kind of

437
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: controls you. Now again, I I do side with him.

438
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want Ben bosson me around either. But I mean,

439
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 1: check Ben's resume. It's a little better than Antonio's. So

440
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: I think it's just a disaster. I don't know, They're

441
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: not gonna get much for him. Whatever he gets traded for,

442
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: my guests would be it's not equivalent to what he

443
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: is as a player, because because in a vacuum, as

444
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: a player, he's the best wide receiver in the league.

445
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 1: He's worth, you know, first round pick. Don't be shocked

446
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: when they like end up getting a third round pick

447
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: and then Odell Beckham Jr. I think they were uneasy

448
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: about signing Odell Beckham Jr. Last year, but he was

449
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: such a star on a team that sucked in a

450
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: market that's that powerful as New York. They had no choice,

451
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: Like they kind of just they had to keep him.

452
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: They had to pay him. Uh there it was. It's

453
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: one of the rare times in the NFL where you're

454
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: just kind of screwed, you know, the player kind of

455
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: has you, you know, by the balls. Basically like he

456
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: Odell was in control and he got paid. Well. Now

457
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: they got sa Kwan Barkley. And I don't think say

458
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: Kwan is quite When I say sexy, I don't mean

459
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Speaker 1: like looking. I just mean, you know, just the star power,

460
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: Like Odell is a star, an absolute superstar now is

461
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: if you check out his NFL dot com page, probably

462
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: doesn't quite equal the hype, though no one disputes. When

463
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: he's on the field and he's playing well, he's dominant,

464
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Speaker 1: and then the hair of the whole persona of the craziness.

465
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Speaker 1: He's just a star, say Kwan, I don't even I

466
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: don't even know if I've ever heard him talk, but

467
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: on the field, just dominates and he is a superstar

468
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: for them. So they have somewhat of the equity now

469
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Speaker 1: that if they wanted to move on from Odell, and

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Speaker 1: I've said I would trade for the Niners, for example,

471
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Speaker 1: I would trade the niners second round pick, which is

472
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Speaker 1: thirty six and next year's one for Odell Beckham. I

473
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Speaker 1: would not do that for Antonio Brown. I think O'Dell

474
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Speaker 1: is almost five years or four years younger than Antonio Brown,

475
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Speaker 1: so there's a huge age factor in it for me,

476
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: and I think most of the NFL will look at

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Speaker 1: it like that. He's just way younger, even though he's

478
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: been banged up and health is a concern, but age

479
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: does matter in the NFL. And Antonio Brown is thirty

480
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Speaker 1: one years old. Now you can play, and I think

481
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Speaker 1: his style is going to be able to translate for

482
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Speaker 1: several more years at a high level. But if I'm

483
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Speaker 1: gonna take two divas. I'm just gonna side probably with

484
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Speaker 1: the younger one, and O'Dell has kind of got along.

485
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: It feels like a little better than Antonio. Again, we're nitpicking,

486
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, pains in the butt here, but I would

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Speaker 1: side with Odell if I had to pick one for

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Speaker 1: a franchise, just because I think I just always lean

489
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Speaker 1: with the younger guy. And here's the other thing. Odell

490
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: was a blue chipper coming out of college. He was

491
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Speaker 1: a top fifteen pick. Everyone in the NFL I knew

492
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: loved him. Who didn't. I mean, he was an elite prospect.

493
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: Antonio wasn't. He was a late bloomer. Now he he

494
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: you know, hit the scene and basically became a Hall

495
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: of Famer. But you go, I think they're gonna be

496
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: way more people in the NFL that look at Odell

497
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Speaker 1: Beckham that it does feel has been a kind of

498
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: low key for the last couple of months, unlike Antonio Brown.

499
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Speaker 1: If he does become available, much more willing to sacrifice

500
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Speaker 1: and spend draft capital, which it won't be cheap to

501
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: get oh Odell, But I do think he can be had.

502
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 1: Obviously Antonio Brown can be had, but I don't know

503
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Speaker 1: how many teams want to have him for a high price. Now,

504
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: every team in the league would take him for like

505
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: a third rounder, but do you want to give like

506
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Speaker 1: a future one and maybe a high too. I I wouldn't. Uh,

507
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean he's not worth that on the field.

508
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: But it's not just on the field. It's about three

509
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: six five deal with him every day. Well, he like

510
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Speaker 1: my quarterback, and I take my chance with Odell Beckham Jr.

511
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: As crazy as this all sounds, but it just shows

512
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: you when you have a Larry Fitzgerald or you know,

513
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: I Doug Baldwins like this in Seattle and he's not

514
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: as good as these guys. But you know what I'm saying, Like,

515
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: you're pretty lucky because most wide receivers Mike Evans like

516
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: this in Tampa is pretty low key. I mean, most

517
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: of these diva wide receivers just where you out. Okay,

518
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Speaker 1: let's get to the Middlecoff mail bag. I got a

519
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: bunch of questions, so I'll go rapid fire a little

520
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: bit shorter podcast. You know it's Valentine's week, slower week. Uh, Well,

521
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: have a lot more stuff coming down the down the pipe.

522
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: But you can always DM me on Instagram at John Middlecoff,

523
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: same thing as my Twitter handle, and it's the it's

524
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: the easiest way to get a hold of me Middlecoff

525
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: mail bag. I've always been curious when it comes to

526
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Speaker 1: the NFL draft. Do teams view a draft where you

527
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: get one premier player, say a perennial Pro Bowl Pro bowler,

528
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: or where they get three or four average to above

529
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: average players as a more successful draft. I think any

530
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: good draft involves three or four solid starters. Obviously you

531
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: want a Khalil Mack and Aaron Donald, you know, an

532
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown or something out of the draft. But I

533
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: think any draft where you can go, I gotta starting guard,

534
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: starting linebacker, a starting safety, and a second tight end.

535
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: You know, where you get three or four positions always

536
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: better than a one man band. Now in a perfect world,

537
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: remember Reggie Mackenzie won the Executive of the Year a

538
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. He drafted Khalil Mack, Derek Carr,

539
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,239
Speaker 1: and Gabe Jackson and it was like, damn yet, pro

540
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: three Pro bowlers. Uh. One couple of them have bounced

541
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: around the Pro Bowl. Obviously they're not consistent Pro bowlers,

542
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: but that's to me, the best thing you can do.

543
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: Now if a draft you need a quarterback, if you

544
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: get your franchise quarterback, everything else is kind of written off.

545
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: But I I would imagine if you pulled every GM,

546
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: they would take three or four solid starters. So just

547
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: because you're a starter, if you're not, if they're looking

548
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: to replace you and you're not a good player, that

549
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put you on that level. But if you're

550
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: like an above average starter and you can start for

551
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: basically every team in the league, then I think they

552
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: would always take quantity over one equaling quality. Mail bad question.

553
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: With first round picks usually hitting at a third attent rate,

554
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was a little higher than that. Would

555
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: it be terrible if the Raiders gave up their last

556
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Speaker 1: first rounder for Antonio Brown, get a known product, and

557
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: possibly go Harden free agency, still with three high draft picks,

558
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: obviously with the other one in the top of the

559
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: second round. I do not think you can trade Amari

560
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: Cooper and Khalil Mack and then use one of the

561
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Speaker 1: first round picks for Antonio Brown. The whole reason you

562
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: traded those guys was to start over. Then you trade

563
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: for a guy he's I don't blame you for wanting

564
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. He's a really good player. But to me,

565
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: part of it was you're starting, Oh, you're basically doing

566
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: a one year Sam Hinky, so you don't you don't

567
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: band aid that with the thirty one year old diva

568
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver. So I would not support that slash. I

569
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Speaker 1: just think it would set a bad It would just

570
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: show they had no plan. They just kind of did

571
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: it at a whim. And I think there is a

572
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: decent chance that that's what happened with this quote unquote

573
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: Raiders rebuild. But I would not trade a first round

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Speaker 1: pick for for Antonio Brown. Now, if you told me

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Speaker 1: they traded pick for Odell Beckham, you got a guy

576
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: that was twenty six years old, I can dig that,

577
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: But I can't trade one of the first round picks

578
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Speaker 1: for I got. It's thirty one years old. And I've

579
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: said over and over he is a remarkable player. But

580
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Speaker 1: for the Raiders who went Sam Hinky on the season,

581
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: quit on the season, tried to lose, actively tanked, which

582
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 1: we've seen once in the last ten years, and Sashy

583
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: Brown and the Browns, you can't trade for Antonio Brown,

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00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: can you please explain how to teams conduct the quarterback

585
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: interviews slash assessments. What kind of questions are being asked?

586
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: What are they doing in the room for a few

587
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: hours with the quarterback? Well, if you bring a guy in,

588
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: you have thirty visits during the draft process. You get

589
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: to go to the combine and you get to interview

590
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: with your general manager and head coach sixty guys, but

591
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: you only get fifteen minutes. So if you really like

592
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: a guy, you bring them to your facility and you

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00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: get them for twenty four hours. I used to my

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Speaker 1: first couple of years. Um, definitely my first year. I

595
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: picked these guys up at the airport and bring them.

596
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes we go out to dinner. You pick up a

597
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: couple of assiston coaches and go to dinner and you

598
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: just talk about life. Usually their day is pretty mapped out.

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00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: They meet with a position coach, they meet with a coordinator,

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00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: they meet with the head coach, they meet with the GM,

601
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: and if they are a big time prospect, sometimes they

602
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: meet with the owners. I think the position coach and

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00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: the coordinator. Usually just droll and football. They watch their

604
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Speaker 1: own scheme, They ask some questions, kind of get all

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00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: for their football knowledge, saying with the head coach, I

606
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: think every team is a little different. In my experience,

607
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it's basic, but there's only so much

608
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: you can ask a guy in a twenty four hour period.

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00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: Part of it is doing your work all year long,

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00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: so you feel comfortable with his knowledge or not with

611
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: his knowledge because you can only ask him, you know,

612
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: are you gonna waste time on the most basic stuff?

613
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: He should already know that, right. But some of these

614
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: guys in the offense they play. You know, we saw

615
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: it for years with the Gruden quarterback camp. It's pointless

616
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: drilling him on stuff that he's not gonna know. If

617
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Speaker 1: his offense was either a look at me offense or

618
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: just like a number system, you know, the Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid, Sean McVeigh is long verbiage offense. Well, if

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Speaker 1: I'm coming from Oklahoma State or Oklahoma or wherever might

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Speaker 1: might play, might be one that's the play. And if

622
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: I want an audible, I look at the coach and

623
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Speaker 1: he gives me the play. So drilling him on that

624
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Speaker 1: and see him you know that's he knows. So I

625
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,719
Speaker 1: think part of it with a lot of these guys

626
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: in in the kind of spread era is finding out

627
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: or feeling comfortable that they're capable to learn, because they're

628
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: gonna come in and they're they're not gonna have this

629
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Speaker 1: extensive offense. That's just not the way college works. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's more figuring out if he is going

631
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Speaker 1: to be smart enough. So maybe before a guy comes

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Speaker 1: I've heard this. I don't know if we did this

633
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: in Philly, but you'd send a guy a playbook so

634
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: when he shows up at your facility, you start asking

635
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: him questions about the things you sent him and seeing

636
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: if he can retain it, because you can only ask

637
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Speaker 1: him so much about what he did. If what he

638
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Speaker 1: did isn't that you know, extensive or that uh. It

639
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Speaker 1: parallels the NFL that much like Andy Reid. I talked

640
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Speaker 1: to him about it last year. He the way they

641
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: evaluated Mahomes is they siphoned out every quick screen, so

642
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: any past that they evaluated him on was past the

643
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, and then it evaluating the person. Obviously,

644
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Speaker 1: his character was was high. He was a smart guy,

645
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Speaker 1: and they felt comfortable. But part of it, there's a

646
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Speaker 1: reason you pay these offensive coaches seven eight nine million dollars.

647
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Speaker 1: There's a reason your coordinators make two million dollars in

648
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: the league because you have to coach them up. That's

649
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: that's a huge element of the NFL and a reason

650
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Speaker 1: that you feel comfortable hiring and paying these coaches so

651
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: much is they can take a guy and take them

652
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Speaker 1: to the next level. And that's that to me, is coaching, right.

653
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: Coaching is basically teaching. It's just just football instead of

654
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Speaker 1: us history. Right. You get a guy to learn, and

655
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Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean it, It takes the best quarterbacks

656
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: took Matt Matt Ryan said the year before his MVP,

657
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Speaker 1: him and Kyle Shanahan were at ops. He struggled with

658
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Speaker 1: the offense. Smart guys. To me, the cream always rises

659
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,280
Speaker 1: for smart quarterbacks and and it's the opposite, Dumb quarterbacks

660
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: always get exposed. But I do think it's a big

661
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 1: reason why so many quarterbacks in the NFL miss because

662
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: I think how hard that is to truly evaluate a

663
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Speaker 1: guy's intellectual capacity at twent two years old. It's really difficult.

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Speaker 1: And then knowing that if you draft the guy high,

665
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,479
Speaker 1: you're gonna give him a ton of money. He's gonna

666
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: be so famous. Everyone in town is gonna want to

667
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: hang out with him or sleep with him. There's just

668
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: an element of unknown that will never be Unless we

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Speaker 1: can look into the future, you'd ever be able to

670
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: figure out or quantify. It's it's all kind of a

671
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: guessing game. Now. You can mitigate your risk if you

672
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: go God, Drew Brees in college, you know, or Peyton Manning,

673
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: super high level, smartest guy in the room, straight a student.

674
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Speaker 1: You get this high character guy, he's married or whatever.

675
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Speaker 1: You feel good about it. But I think it's all

676
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Speaker 1: kind of a guessing game. Okay, John, Do you think

677
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Speaker 1: the Jets will become a playoff worthy team soon? And

678
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Speaker 1: if so, how long? It's a good question we talked

679
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Speaker 1: about earlier this week. They have some issues with their

680
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: coaching staff already, and I like their coaching staff. I

681
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: think Adam Gates a high level guy, Greg Williams a

682
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 1: long history of kicking Assis defensive coordinator. But the egos

683
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: in that coaching staff are huge. Now if Gaye can

684
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: get to Sam Donald and then they can start kicking ass.

685
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: They have no weapons. Robby Anderson is not bad. They

686
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: need to go sign signed Levian Bell, draft a receiver.

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Speaker 1: They need help, and they need help bad memory serves

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Speaker 1: me correctly. They traded around there. They traded their second

689
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Speaker 1: round pick right to the Colts last year, so they

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Speaker 1: don't have a second round pick, so they have a

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Speaker 1: high first but you're not. There's not like a Julio

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Speaker 1: or that type player in this draft. You probably have

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Speaker 1: to go defense, but you're gonna need to draft some

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Speaker 1: offensive guys. You're probably gonna need to sign some offensive guys.

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Speaker 1: To me, the key, it's gonna be get offensive skill

696
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Speaker 1: guys and they don't have any. Do you have to

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Speaker 1: surround Sam Donald with a better offensive skill guys. And

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Speaker 1: then I just think there's a natural, you know, maturation

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Speaker 1: for Sam Donald being an older player. You know he's

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Speaker 1: going from his rookie to his second year. So usually

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Speaker 1: there is a huge staff up when you do that.

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Speaker 1: So I I'd say two years it all goes perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Three years, you know, if this works out. Now, if

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Speaker 1: Gates was a bad higher could just be a disaster.

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Speaker 1: I'm a lifelong Bengals fan. It's uh, but now that

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Speaker 1: Marvin has gone, I'm excited for the reboot of the

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Speaker 1: franchise and pray Zac Taylor can bring us out of

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Purgatory. I know it's a risky move, but

709
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Speaker 1: what do you make of the higher and do you

710
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Speaker 1: think he took the job with the understanding the Bengals

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Speaker 1: move off Andy Dalton this next this season or next.

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Speaker 1: I think he took the job just because they offered

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Speaker 1: him the job. He's a young guy. You don't turn

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Speaker 1: down NFL head coaching jobs. Uh. All I know of

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Speaker 1: him is the press conference that I watched, and he

716
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Speaker 1: was really impressive. He was really sharp, unlike the other

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Speaker 1: guy that was hired from mcveighs staff. Uh, well he's not.

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Speaker 1: I guess he was on the Titans staff. The floor

719
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Speaker 1: with the Packers. I was not impressed. I was really impressed,

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Speaker 1: but I got a red flag somewhat on this. He

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Speaker 1: went to the Bengals and he had obviously all January

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Speaker 1: and then early February because he was in the Super

723
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Speaker 1: Bowl to kind of put together his staff. He does

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Speaker 1: not have a defensive coordinator. No defensive coordinator. Think about that.

725
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Speaker 1: He was just turned down by Todd Grantham. That feels

726
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Speaker 1: like he kind of played him for a race from

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Speaker 1: the University of Florida. But it's I'm recording this on

728
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Speaker 1: Valentine's DNA. So if you're listening to this it's Friday

729
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: or Saturday and they don't have a defensive coordinator, that's

730
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Speaker 1: that's not ideal. It's actually kind of a little bizarre.

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Speaker 1: It's a little weird, and it's not really a good sign. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a Zach Taylor sign or

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Speaker 1: a Mike Brown sign, but that's not good the Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton thing. Andy Dalton's played well in this league, so

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Speaker 1: to me, if maybe Zach Taylor can get to him

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Speaker 1: and get him going again. They do have good skill

737
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: guys still, they always do, and I think maybe you

738
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: can resurrect him. He's cheap, he doesn't cost that much money.

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Speaker 1: I think you just kind of you just kind of

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Speaker 1: take it as it goes. If he's bad, you can

741
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: get rid of him next year, but you play with

742
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: him this year and just kind of see what you got.

743
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: Hopefully you can reserve racked him. Because it wasn't that

744
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: long ago. I guess it was like three years now

745
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 1: when Hugh Jackson was the offensive coordinator that Andy Dalton

746
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: was a legitimate MVP candidate. So we've seen him play

747
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: well now his ceiling is capped, but you can win

748
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: with that guy if you have a good team and

749
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Speaker 1: a good offensive mind. So maybe I'm a bigger Andy

750
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: Dalton guy than most, but I'm definitely not writing them off.

751
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: I was very disappointed this past year by the Monday

752
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: Night Football broadcast team. Jason Witten is awful, agreed, and

753
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: looked like a deer in the headlights. He had many

754
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: awkward exchanges with testator. How do broadcasters get rated? And

755
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: how long do we have before Monday Night Football switches

756
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: out the broadcast team? Also, do you think the broadcast

757
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: terms drive football game ratings at all or the driven

758
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Speaker 1: by the quality of the matchup? Uh? Yeah, It's just

759
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Speaker 1: I'm a big believer. Not everyone. Just because you're famous

760
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: and a former player, that doesn't mean you're meant for

761
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: the media to me. You watch Jason Witten, he just

762
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have the personality. Tony Romo's personality is kind of

763
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Speaker 1: the opposite and he's perfect. Jason Witten is just kind

764
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Speaker 1: of a stiff. He'd probably be a better j Don't

765
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Speaker 1: manager than he would a media personality. Testa tour is

766
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: just too much. It's Monday Night Football. The game speaks

767
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: for itself. You don't need to be hooting and hollering

768
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: and screaming and going nuts for every first down. And

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Speaker 1: the Booger thing is just weird. It just doesn't really flow.

770
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Speaker 1: I don't think Jason Witten and Booger for being football

771
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Speaker 1: former players. No, no, the game that will. They never

772
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Speaker 1: give insight onto what the guy was like coming out

773
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Speaker 1: of college, what his maturation has been since he's been

774
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Speaker 1: in the league. They don't really know. It feels like

775
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: coaches schemes. They're terrible there. It's a god awful broadcast.

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Speaker 1: I hope it's not back. I'd be a little shocked

777
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Speaker 1: if they cut it after you one year, but I

778
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Speaker 1: would expect it to be the broadcast next year. And

779
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not a TV executive. It's it

780
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: seems like from a rating standpoint, the game kind of

781
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: speaks for itself. Now that article on the NFL getting

782
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 1: taken to Fox John Madden used to matter. I think

783
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: there's a rare guy. Maybe he's the last true true

784
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Speaker 1: broadcaster that really impacted ratings. I think it works a

785
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: lot more in local ratings. You know, if you have

786
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: an NBA announcer, you're gonna watch the local broadcast over

787
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: the national broadcast. But I think in football, you're just

788
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Speaker 1: if you give us Patriot Chiefs, or you give us

789
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Speaker 1: Jimmy Jeevers, Russell Wilson, We're just gonna watch because it's football.

790
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Speaker 1: Whether I'm calling the game or whether Jill Buck's calling

791
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Speaker 1: the game, you're gonna watch. Now. You might complain, but

792
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna watch the game. What are the chances of

793
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: the Cardinals draft Murray and trade Rosen? If they did,

794
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: could the Dolphins be a potential trade partner. I don't

795
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Speaker 1: know what Brian Flores thinks of thinks of Josh Rosen,

796
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: but they're gonna need a quarterback. I think it's already

797
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: been reported that Ryan Tannils done as he should be.

798
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: He's a glassman. He can't stay healthy. I also think

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, to me, are are a prime destination. The

800
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 1: Cardinals and the Patriots did a big deal before when

801
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots traded Chandler Jones to the two Arians and Times.

802
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: So Belichick trust Steve Kim, which is a big thing

803
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Speaker 1: with Belichick. He doesn't just do business with trades like

804
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 1: this with anyone because you're not allowed to talk. He

805
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't do clutch Lebron James Leaks like the Lakers,

806
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: like things do not come out of New England, and

807
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: they just need a quarterback. A lot of people have

808
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: hit me up the last couple of weeks, what are

809
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Speaker 1: they gonna do? Like who Who's going to be their backup?

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Speaker 1: My my thing is, I don't know, you know, I

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00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: I get they like Brian Hoyer and the stories that

812
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: came out during the Super Bowl. He was an integral

813
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Speaker 1: part of their preparation for the Super Bowl, playing Jared

814
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: Goff and giving the defense looks for that offense. Clearly

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Speaker 1: it worked because the defense was ready. But he's not

816
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 1: good enough. You know, if Brian Horriers started sixteen games

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Speaker 1: next year for the Patriots, probably win nine games just

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Speaker 1: because Belichick is so good. But it'd be a struggle. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's just he's not a good enough backup and you

820
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Speaker 1: just need a young guy, which they had with Jimmy,

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Speaker 1: but now they no longer have so to me, the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: I could see them even taking a little less just

823
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Speaker 1: to do a deal with the Patriots that if he's

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Speaker 1: not on the team, that would be my guess that

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00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: he gets traded to the Patriots. Now more than likely

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Speaker 1: he's on the team. Hey, John uh, I love the podcast,

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Speaker 1: the same with me. Here's my question. I'm sure the

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Speaker 1: Bills aren't too high on your radar of NFL teams,

829
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: but which rebuild would you rather be a part of

830
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: right now? The Jets or the Bills. Obviously, your feelings

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Speaker 1: on Josh Allen or Sam Donald could swing the choice

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00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: one way or the other. So assume they turn out

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Speaker 1: to be equals. Okay, let's assume they turn out to

834
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Speaker 1: be equals, which is hard because Sam Donald is a

835
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: better player. I hated Josh Allen coming out of college.

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Speaker 1: He's grown on me. I like the person, high on

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00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: the character. I do think there is a chance for

838
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: him to improve, though some of his big places this

839
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: year either came on the ground or like big flash plays.

840
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 1: He was not the most accurate quarterback. Now the Bill's

841
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: team is just a lot better. They had two first

842
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: round draft picks last year. You know they got a quarterback,

843
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: but they got the other guy that the linebacker. Their

844
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: defense is just good. Trade Abous White, the corner from

845
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: l s U is a really good player. Sean McDermott

846
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: is just a really good coach. Now they don't have much.

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Speaker 1: Neither team has any skill guys, So how are these

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Speaker 1: teams going to improve from the skill position? Assuming Shady

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00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 1: McCoy is gone. Probably lean the Bills. But I like

850
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: Sam Donald more than I like Josh Allen, and I

851
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: know Adam Gaze is pretty good. I know Sean mcdermot's

852
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: good too. But if you told me you get two

853
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: above average younger coaches, I'm gonna lean with the offensive

854
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: coach now. As I said earlier, I got a little

855
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: bit red flag on the cohesion right now with Adam

856
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: Gaze and with Greg Williams. But the Bills have had

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00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: a lot of turnover to it feels like Sean mcdermot's

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00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: firing a couple of coaches every year the last couple

859
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: of years. And we kept the offensive coordinator this year.

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00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure, off the top of my head

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00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: didn't he fire the offensive line coach this year. He

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00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: just he goes through some coaches now, So I I

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00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: would lean the Jets, but I think it's pretty close.

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00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: I think both these two teams because of their young

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and because they both have good young coaches. McDermott

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00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: has proven a little and now I Adam Gates made

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, so both of them have made the playoffs

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Speaker 1: as a wild card, and we're one and done, so

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00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: let's just call them equals. I think they're both pretty good.

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00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 1: I would take either one and feel pretty good about it.

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00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: I'd probably lean the Bills just because they have better players,

872
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: but I think it's easier to things to get free

873
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: agents to come to the Jets just you're gonna go

874
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: to New York before you go to Buffalo, and too,

875
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: I just like their quarterback more so when all else fails,

876
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: it's hard to assume their equals because they're not equals.

877
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: Though I won't dispute as a pre draft Josh Allen Hayter,

878
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: he did show me flashes where I kind of went, Damn.

879
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,879
Speaker 1: I kind of like this guy. I'm definitely rooting for him.

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00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: Uh So the Bills are further along. They're really just

881
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: they're good on defense too. That's tough one that I

882
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: think both these two teams. Whenever Brady ends, which help

883
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: might never happen. If he keeps TV twelve in and

884
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: it's Ko smoothie in and avocado ice cream and Belichick

885
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like he's going anywhere, it's gonna be harder

886
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: to win the division, But I think these two teams

887
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: are light years ahead of Miami. Now it's just gonna

888
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: be what team has a better draft? Does do the

889
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: Jets land Levy on Bell, which I think they're gonna

890
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: be in the mix for all right, that's a that's

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00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: a that's a great question. So my answers the Bills,

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00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: but it's also the Jets. I think it's kind of

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00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: a coin flip. I think we'll know a lot more

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00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: after the draft. We'll see free agency, and we'll see

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00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: the draft with these two teams because I think they're

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00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: kind of neck and neck. Appreciate everyone listening. Another podcast

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Speaker 1: in the books. I hope you guys had a good

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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, have a good weekend. Combines right around the corner,

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Speaker 1: and we'll just keep talking football post