WEBVTT - Listener Mail: Atem

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Joe McCormick. My regular co host, Robert

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<v Speaker 2>week is that I'm going to do listener mail solo today. Tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>back with new content for you later this week. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess let's jump right into messages. We got a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of great responses to our series on Cicadas. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to start with this message from Jim. I made

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<v Speaker 2>some edits for clarity when read aloud, I hope I

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<v Speaker 2>did everything here Justice Jim. Jim says, Hey, guys, hope you,

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<v Speaker 2>your families and your team had a nice break. When

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<v Speaker 2>I saw the title of this episode, I was excited

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<v Speaker 2>to hear that you were going to do a two

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<v Speaker 2>part episode on cicadas. The insect world is one of

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<v Speaker 2>my passions. By the way, great episode. I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Here in Canberra, Australia's capital city, we too experience every

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years a massive emergence of cicadas in some reserves.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't have earmuffs on, it's impossible to work

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<v Speaker 2>or walk through the reserve. Is The noise that comes

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<v Speaker 2>from the cicadas is deafening. But halfway through the first episode,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a flashback of my childchildhood and I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to share a memory from when I was about six

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<v Speaker 2>or seven years old, some forty years ago. I was

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<v Speaker 2>raised in Orange, a city in central New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty kilometers outside of Orange. There is a picnic

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<v Speaker 2>reserve in the middle of a pine plantation on a

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<v Speaker 2>creek called four Mile Creek. As kids, we would go

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<v Speaker 2>out there with the church group and on the way

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<v Speaker 2>out to four Mile Creek you would also go past

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<v Speaker 2>the agricultural department. I don't remember the environment that day

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<v Speaker 2>or the noise, but it must have been one of

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<v Speaker 2>those years when we had three species emerging. The most

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<v Speaker 2>common cicadas were the black ones, then the green ones

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<v Speaker 2>and the tiger ones, which were rare to come across. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>someone I think it was older teenagers of the church,

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<v Speaker 2>told my two older brothers and me that the tiger

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<v Speaker 2>cicada you could sell to the agricultural department for ten cents.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten cents in the eighties, that was a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money for a kid. I don't remember collecting the higer

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<v Speaker 2>cicadas until we came across the white ones. We called

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<v Speaker 2>them ghosts and were told that they were worth five

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<v Speaker 2>dollars each, so believing them, I guess the older kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Believing the older kids, we started to collect the cicadas

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<v Speaker 2>emerging out of their shells, and they were all white ones.

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<v Speaker 2>We collected a very large number of them. Through all

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<v Speaker 2>these cicadas, still in their exoskeleton or half emerged into

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<v Speaker 2>the back of our father's Kingswood station wagon. Thinking we

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<v Speaker 2>made a fortune, we ran off to play and have lunch.

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<v Speaker 2>Some time passed and we were called time to go home.

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<v Speaker 2>Running back to the car, we found our very upset

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<v Speaker 2>father with the front door open. He was not happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Cicadas were flying out of the car door he had opened.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside the front of the car, there were lots of

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<v Speaker 2>black and green cicadas flying around the back of the

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<v Speaker 2>station wagon, and the back seat had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>empty exoskeletons just sitting there. What a scene it was

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<v Speaker 2>with a very upset down who made us remove all

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<v Speaker 2>the live cicadas and all of the exoskeletons from the car.

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<v Speaker 2>But we were distressed too. Where were all of our

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<v Speaker 2>ghost cicadas? Our fortune all gone? I paused the episode

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<v Speaker 2>and had a bit of a laugh. We didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>then that when insects emerge out of their exoskeletons, they

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<v Speaker 2>are molting, and newly emerged insects are often ghostly in color,

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<v Speaker 2>having reduced or absent pigment. Thanks guys made my day.

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally, Jim has some notes about the probable

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<v Speaker 2>species identification of the Australian cicadas from his story, so

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<v Speaker 2>he says, FYI, the black and most common cicadas are

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<v Speaker 2>called the red eye cicada or saltota morins the green

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<v Speaker 2>cicadas are called green grosser cicadas. These are Cyclochila australacea

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<v Speaker 2>and I looked these up. According to the Australian Museum's

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<v Speaker 2>info page, they have like different color variants of the

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<v Speaker 2>species that are called You've got the greengrocer, but then

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<v Speaker 2>you get the yellow Monday, chocolate Soldier, and blue moon. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Jim comes back and says, what we called

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<v Speaker 2>the tiger cicadas were actually called double drummers or sofa cicata.

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<v Speaker 2>All the best for now and keep up the great work,

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to the next episode. Jim. Well, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much. Jim. You know this really got me thinking

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<v Speaker 2>not so much about insect biology, but about child psychology

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<v Speaker 2>and the difference between work and play with your story

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<v Speaker 2>about trying to collect all of the valuable cicadas for

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<v Speaker 2>the Agricultural department. So this story is kind of an

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<v Speaker 2>example of a genre of childhood experiences that I remember

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<v Speaker 2>from that age. Also that those experiences where you think

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<v Speaker 2>you have discovered a way to make lots of money

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<v Speaker 2>based on one or more mistaken or implausible premises. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember these these schemes they often centered around to

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<v Speaker 2>gathering task like yours did, Like I remember deciding that

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<v Speaker 2>a certain kind of sparkly rock was actually a valuable

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<v Speaker 2>gym that you could sell, and I would like go

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<v Speaker 2>around digging them up and collecting them in a backpack.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an interesting thing about these like kid conceived cash

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<v Speaker 2>cow schemes, which is that the way I remember them,

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<v Speaker 2>in most cases, you're able to really believe in them

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<v Speaker 2>in the early stages, like it doesn't feel like you're

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<v Speaker 2>just playing pretend. You really think you're going to get

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<v Speaker 2>the money. But then at some point later on in

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<v Speaker 2>the scheme, it starts to feel less real and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't keep pushing forward as if you believe in it.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jim, in your story, if you hadn't gotten in

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<v Speaker 2>trouble with your dad and had to release all the bugs,

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<v Speaker 2>would you have actually insisted that your parents stop at

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<v Speaker 2>the agricultural department on the way home so you could

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<v Speaker 2>collect the bounties. I don't know in your particular case,

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<v Speaker 2>but my memory of these types of schemes is that

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<v Speaker 2>by that point later in the day, like the magic

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<v Speaker 2>of the idea probably would have worn off, And if

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<v Speaker 2>I'd been in a similar situation, I probably would stop

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<v Speaker 2>caring or believing that it was possible to get the

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<v Speaker 2>money by the time I was heading home. But what

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<v Speaker 2>causes that change? Why did I believe the rocks were

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<v Speaker 2>valuable gyms in the first place, and what changed my

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<v Speaker 2>mind about it by the passage of a few hours.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know anyway. Now that I've got a toddler,

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<v Speaker 2>I think about this kind of stuff a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting and kind of mysterious to remember those states

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<v Speaker 2>of mind that you could get into as a child,

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<v Speaker 2>where you're like fully engaged in a task. It's taking

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<v Speaker 2>all of your effort and attention, but it's actually not

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<v Speaker 2>clear to you whether you're doing serious, goal directed work

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<v Speaker 2>or just playing a game. But either way, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Okay. This next message comes to us from Sierra.

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<v Speaker 2>It is about our Vault episodes on the Moons of Uranus.

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<v Speaker 2>Cer says, hello, longtime listener and big fan here. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>loving the episodes about the moons of Uranus, especially the

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<v Speaker 2>discussion of its proper pronunciation at the top of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It made me want to share a mental image that

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<v Speaker 2>was conjured years ago and linger still. In some astrology

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<v Speaker 2>book I read once, Uranus was referred to as a

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<v Speaker 2>planet that rules rebellion, flippancy, revolution, perhaps due to its

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<v Speaker 2>odd rotation, Oh yeah, sideways rotation. Cira says it made

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<v Speaker 2>me picture Uranus as the iggy pop slash sid Vicious

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<v Speaker 2>of the planets, proudly rocking his name with green hair

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<v Speaker 2>and double birds to the audience laughing emoji. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>you can enjoy that thought too. Thanks for sharing the

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<v Speaker 2>good humor, wit and wisdom over the years, Sincerely, Sierra,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Sierra. All right, this next message comes from Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 2>This is another response to our series on cicadas, and

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<v Speaker 2>specifically this is about the etymological digression we took in

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<v Speaker 2>the episode looking into the history of the word bug,

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<v Speaker 2>which in its earliest use is in English referred to

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<v Speaker 2>a scarecrow. This is in an early English translation of

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible, or actually to a sort of deuterocanonical book

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<v Speaker 2>associated with the Bible. But so there's a scarecrow, or

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<v Speaker 2>it also referred to a hobgoblin like creature, a monster

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<v Speaker 2>of some kind, and then only later came to refer

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<v Speaker 2>to actual biological insects, and then later still came to

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<v Speaker 2>have this connotation of general problems like computer bugs and

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<v Speaker 2>so forth. Chelsea says, hi, guys. Fact, the use of

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<v Speaker 2>the word bug to describe a computer bug dates from

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty seven, when the Harvard computer science team found

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<v Speaker 2>a moth trapped inside the Mark two, which was messing

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<v Speaker 2>with the electronics. Early computer programming language. Pioneer Grace Hopper

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<v Speaker 2>was a member of the team. So computer bugs are

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<v Speaker 2>named for the creepy crawleys. Keep up the awesome work, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Chelsea. Well, so I did some looking into

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<v Speaker 2>this story, and one thing I came across is you

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<v Speaker 2>can actually look this up. There is a picture of

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<v Speaker 2>it on the National Museum of American History website. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a log book that was used by the computer

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<v Speaker 2>science team at Harvard while people were working on the

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<v Speaker 2>Mark to computer, and they actually physically taped the moth

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<v Speaker 2>found inside the computer into the logbook, so it's taped

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<v Speaker 2>there on the paper. You can see images of this,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they write underneath it first actual case of

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<v Speaker 2>a bug being found. I was also reading some articles

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<v Speaker 2>about this historical incident, and apparently there are some common

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<v Speaker 2>misconceptions about it, Like, Chelsea, you certainly did not say this,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of people say that this was Grace

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<v Speaker 2>Hopper's personal log book, and from what I've read, that

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be not true, that it doesn't look like

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<v Speaker 2>her handwriting, and it's probably just said that because she's

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<v Speaker 2>a famous person who was there at the time working

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<v Speaker 2>with this kind of working with this technology. Another misconception

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen written about this was that this was the

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<v Speaker 2>first ever use of the word bug in a sort

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<v Speaker 2>of technical engineering context, which is certainly not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>There are instances of this going way back back to

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas Edison wrote about bugs in some of his inventions

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<v Speaker 2>and so forth. But it does appear that Grace Hopper

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<v Speaker 2>was a very enthusiastic early user of the term bug

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<v Speaker 2>in a specifically in a compute context. So it is

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the case that this was the first use

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<v Speaker 2>of bugs in engineering or in technology, as some people

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<v Speaker 2>have said. But I was reading about this misconception in

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<v Speaker 2>an interesting article for the for the I Tripole Annals

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<v Speaker 2>of the History of Computing. There was an article in

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<v Speaker 2>that journal by an author named Peggy Aldrich Kidwell, a

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<v Speaker 2>historian of science and technology. I just want to read

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<v Speaker 2>a paragraph from her paper. Kidwell writes, quote in summary,

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<v Speaker 2>the phrase computer bug has served several functions. Talking about

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<v Speaker 2>bugs rather than flaws appeals to the wit of programmers

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<v Speaker 2>and computer users. In the early days of computing, the

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<v Speaker 2>phrase was used primarily by a relatively small group of

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<v Speaker 2>experts marking their special status. At the same time, having

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<v Speaker 2>a short, general term that covers a wide variety of

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<v Speaker 2>flaws has been useful, particularly because the exact source of

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<v Speaker 2>the error was often unknown. Calling such problems bugs rather

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<v Speaker 2>than failures suggests that they are small faults that can

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<v Speaker 2>be corrected, not a general in thinking, and not a

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<v Speaker 2>general failure in thinking or design. This usage had long

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<v Speaker 2>been a refuge of US inventors and served the optimistic

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<v Speaker 2>nature of computer designers and programmers. So I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of an interesting point about the psychology of engineering,

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<v Speaker 2>or the psychology of invention and technical work, that even

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<v Speaker 2>the language you select to describe the problems you face

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<v Speaker 2>in your work can color your emotions in how in

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<v Speaker 2>how you have to go about addressing it, and that

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<v Speaker 2>by using cute little terms like bug, which implied that

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is external, implied that the problem is small,

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<v Speaker 2>implied that the problem is you know, it's not something

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<v Speaker 2>that is wrong with the general approach or design of

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<v Speaker 2>the system. But it's just like a little little thing

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<v Speaker 2>that got in there and went wrong. Kind of helps

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<v Speaker 2>you maintain a positive attitude in addressing problems and fixing them.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, thank you so much, Chelsea. All right. This

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<v Speaker 2>last message is also in response to cicadas. This is

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<v Speaker 2>one that sent me down a bit of a research trail.

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<v Speaker 2>So this comes from Jeremy. Jeremy says, hello, Robert and Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>with reference to the recent rise of the cicadas episode

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<v Speaker 2>and the volume of their mating call. We thankfully don't

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<v Speaker 2>get cicadas in Europe, but we do have a contender

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<v Speaker 2>for the loudest insect and winner in the volume generated

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<v Speaker 2>in proportion to size category, the lesser water boatman or

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<v Speaker 2>micro necta. This is spelled scholt Zi. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if that's sculptz or schultzy. I'm gonna say schultze. The

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<v Speaker 2>micronecta Schultze is only zero points zero seven inches or

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<v Speaker 2>two millimeters long, yet can generate ninety nine point five decibels,

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<v Speaker 2>with peaks up to one hundred and five decibels. And

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<v Speaker 2>although this sound is created underwater, it can be heard

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<v Speaker 2>on the banks of the streams, rivers, and lakes where

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<v Speaker 2>it lives. Now, that in itself is amazing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go into some more detail about that in

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<v Speaker 2>just a minute, but I've got a note on what

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<v Speaker 2>Jeremy is about to say in the email some context

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<v Speaker 2>to remind listeners. In the first Decade episode, we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about how insects like crickets and grasshoppers make sounds mostly

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<v Speaker 2>through a process called stridulation, which means rubbing, rubbing one

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<v Speaker 2>part of the body against another. So, for example, mail

0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:53.000
<v Speaker 2>crickets rub the edges of their four wings together their

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<v Speaker 2>front pair of wings. They rub those together using what's

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<v Speaker 2>called a file and scraper system. So basically, one wings

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<v Speaker 2>surface is like a stick and the other has a

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<v Speaker 2>series of ridges like the teeth of a comb, and

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<v Speaker 2>rubbing them together against one another produces a scraping sound.

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<v Speaker 2>Male cicadas, on the other hand, do not use strigulation.

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<v Speaker 2>They have dedicated sound producing organs called timbals, which are

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<v Speaker 2>these corrugated kiteness membranes kind of like drumheads, connected to

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<v Speaker 2>muscles and rib like structures underneath, and these are on

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<v Speaker 2>either side of the body under the wings, and the

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<v Speaker 2>cicadas make their sound by rapidly flexing and buckling these

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<v Speaker 2>organs and then allowing them to snap back into place anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>With that context back to Jeremy's message, Jeremy rites, in

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<v Speaker 2>contrast to the leg, wing or rib based sound generation

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<v Speaker 2>methods used by insects like cicadas, the lesser water boatmen

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<v Speaker 2>stridulates its penis against the ridged surface of its abdomen

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<v Speaker 2>to create the sound. And then Jeremy and some references

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<v Speaker 2>and also a paper, and he summarizes the paper by saying, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>it is theorized that a trapped bubble of air is

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<v Speaker 2>used to amplify the volume. Best regards Jeremy. Well, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you Jeremy for writing in and bringing up this amazingly

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<v Speaker 2>interesting animal. Now a couple of things to address at

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<v Speaker 2>the top here, I had to mention something from the

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<v Speaker 2>earlier part of your message about not having cicadas in Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>I double check to be sure, but there definitely are

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<v Speaker 2>cicadas in Europe. For example, multiple species in the genus Cicadeta,

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<v Speaker 2>like Cicadeta montana that's also known as the new forest

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<v Speaker 2>cicada is just one of the species found in Europe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in England in places throughout continental Europe. But from

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<v Speaker 2>what I've been able to dig up, all of the

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<v Speaker 2>species of cicadas found anywhere in Europe are annuals, the

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<v Speaker 2>kind that emerge every year, as opposed to the kinds

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<v Speaker 2>we have in North America with broods on those thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>and seventeen year cycles. But also, I love your note

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<v Speaker 2>bringing attention to the lesser water boatmen, and it's incredibly loud,

0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.640
<v Speaker 2>stridulating penis. I had to know more, so I did

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<v Speaker 2>some investigation on this insect. So again, as Jeremy says,

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<v Speaker 2>the species is Micronecta schultzy. Like cicadas. The lesser water

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<v Speaker 2>boatmen are of the order Hymiptera, so they are also

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<v Speaker 2>the true bugs. Remember that's what the hymipterns are, the

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<v Speaker 2>true bugs, with the most distinctive body features being they're

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<v Speaker 2>piercing and sucking mouthparts. So hymipterans usually have a sort

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<v Speaker 2>of hinged needle called a rostrum on their mouth which

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<v Speaker 2>they used to puncture a food substrate which could be

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<v Speaker 2>a plant or an animal and suck nutrients out. In

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<v Speaker 2>the case of water boatmen, it seems they generally they're

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<v Speaker 2>not predatory. They generally suck nutrients from algae. So I

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<v Speaker 2>looked up the original paper that reported this stridulation miracle

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<v Speaker 2>and it goes back to the year twenty eleven. So

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<v Speaker 2>the paper is by Rome Sewer, David Mackie and James F. C. Windmill,

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<v Speaker 2>published in Plus one in twenty eleven, and the paper

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<v Speaker 2>is called so Small, So Loud extremely high sound pressure

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<v Speaker 2>level from a pigmy aquatic insect carrixiity micronectiny. So the

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<v Speaker 2>authors here begin with some context for their research and

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<v Speaker 2>noting some common difficulties in sound based communication among animals.

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<v Speaker 2>Sound producing animals often want to reach as many receivers

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<v Speaker 2>as possible with their sounds, and they also want their

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<v Speaker 2>sounds to contain as much information as possible. In order

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<v Speaker 2>to reach more receivers, a very simple strategy is make

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<v Speaker 2>your signal louder. But making a louder signal comes with

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<v Speaker 2>some difficulties. One problem, in the words of the authors

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<v Speaker 2>is that quote when considering acoustic communication, the production of

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<v Speaker 2>a loud and intelligible signal is not an easy task.

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<v Speaker 2>Even for human built sound systems. The system can be overdriven,

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<v Speaker 2>distorting time and frequency parameters and consequently impairing information transfer.

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<v Speaker 2>So in other words, selecting for loudness can harm the

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<v Speaker 2>clarity of the information being transferred, and you can think

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<v Speaker 2>about this like you know, turning a speaker up until

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<v Speaker 2>it gets distorted and it's hard to understand what's being said.

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<v Speaker 2>Another problem is that how loud you can get is

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<v Speaker 2>usually constrained by what the authors call morphological characteristics, the

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<v Speaker 2>size and the shape of your body and sound producing organs.

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<v Speaker 2>In short, a small object usually cannot produce a very

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<v Speaker 2>loud sound, and this is why if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>lists of the loudest animals, most of them are also

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<v Speaker 2>the largest animals, so you get like whales and elephants

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<v Speaker 2>as the largest animals. However, there's another way you can

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<v Speaker 2>look at sound production, which is not just purely what

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<v Speaker 2>is the loudest sound achievable, but what is the ratio

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<v Speaker 2>of sound production to body size. Animals are able to

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<v Speaker 2>produce the loudest sounds with the smallest bodies and the

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<v Speaker 2>smallest sound producing organs. So here the authors turn to

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<v Speaker 2>freshwater insects, many of which can communicate by sound. Since

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<v Speaker 2>sound is a useful way of transmitting information when visibility.

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<v Speaker 2>Visual visibility is low, such as in murky water Micronecta

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<v Speaker 2>schultzi is an example of an insect that uses sound

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<v Speaker 2>based communication for pair formation in mating, for males and

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<v Speaker 2>females to find one another, for males to attract females,

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<v Speaker 2>and to attract females to initiate mating. It's possibly also

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<v Speaker 2>used for male male competition competition between males for access

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<v Speaker 2>to mating. The authors of this paper collected specimens of

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<v Speaker 2>this insect from a river and from a pond, both

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<v Speaker 2>located near Paris in France, and measure their sound production

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<v Speaker 2>in controlled conditions. Apparently a lot of the research here

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<v Speaker 2>was just aimed at making sure they were getting accurate

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<v Speaker 2>readings about the sound production, and so, just as Jeremy

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<v Speaker 2>said in the email, the authors did indeed find that

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<v Speaker 2>these tiny insects were able to create shockingly powerful sounds

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<v Speaker 2>for their size. When measured at a distance of one meter,

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<v Speaker 2>the intensity of the sound was roughly a seventy nine

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<v Speaker 2>decibel sound pressure level, with peaks of ninety nine to

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred decibels. A BBC report writing this up compared

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<v Speaker 2>this to the approximate loudness of sitting in the front

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<v Speaker 2>row listening to a loud symphony orchestra, except that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hard to make as a comparison in your mind,

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<v Speaker 2>because the symphony orchestra is a large like composite system

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<v Speaker 2>with many different sound production points. I guess the case

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<v Speaker 2>here would be like you're listening to an orchestra that

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<v Speaker 2>is a hair sized sexual organ of a two millimeter

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<v Speaker 2>insect about a meter away from your head. The author

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<v Speaker 2>is right that while this is by no means the

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<v Speaker 2>loudest in the animal kingdom quote, when scaled to body

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<v Speaker 2>length and compared to two hundred and twenty seven other

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<v Speaker 2>acoustic species, the acoustic energy produced by Imschultzi appears as

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<v Speaker 2>an extreme value, outperforming marine and terrestrial mammal vocalizations. So,

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<v Speaker 2>according to these calculations, it is the loudest animal relative

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<v Speaker 2>to its body size. So, as the title of the

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<v Speaker 2>paper says, so small, so loud, if that's true, I

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<v Speaker 2>was wondering why don't we notice hearing them more often?

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<v Speaker 2>Like why do even if you know you don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>have these around where you live. Why don't you read

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<v Speaker 2>things of people just commonly talking about the sounds they make,

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<v Speaker 2>the way people talk about the sounds made by cicadas.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the answer is probably because they make these

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<v Speaker 2>sounds underwater and people are usually above water, and from

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<v Speaker 2>what I was reading, about ninety nine percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>intensity of the sound is lost when it crosses the

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<v Speaker 2>air water inner though, though that doesn't mean you can't

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<v Speaker 2>hear it again. People on the banks of waterways where

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<v Speaker 2>these animals live are still sometimes able to hear them,

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<v Speaker 2>which is just a pretty incredible thing in itself, given

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<v Speaker 2>how much reduction in the sound there is from crossing

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<v Speaker 2>up out of the water into the air above. So

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<v Speaker 2>it just indicates how loud the original sound is that

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<v Speaker 2>people ever hear it at all. Couple more questions, how

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<v Speaker 2>exactly does this animal make the sound? In one sense

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<v Speaker 2>the authors know the answer, and in another sense they

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<v Speaker 2>said they did not. So the known part is that,

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<v Speaker 2>as mentioned in Jeremy's email, the male water boatman rubs

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<v Speaker 2>a sexual organ against a part of its abdomen to

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<v Speaker 2>generate the sound. This organ is in many articles about

0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 2>this called a penis, but the paper clarifies it is

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<v Speaker 2>actually the male's right side peramere rubbing against a lobe

0:24:54.520 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 2>on the eighth abdominal segment. Perameres seem somewhat equivalent to

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<v Speaker 2>a penis. They are paired sexual organs on either side

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 2>of the abdomen. The paper calls them genitalia appendages, which

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading about it seems like they often serve

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<v Speaker 2>as clasping devices during copulation. The unknown part, according to

0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 2>the authors of this paper in twenty eleven, and people

0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:23.679
<v Speaker 2>have commented since then, was how exactly this genital sound

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 2>emission system, which they point out is no larger than

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<v Speaker 2>fifty micrometers, which is again about the width of a

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 2>human hair on the small side of the range of

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<v Speaker 2>a width of a human hair. How that was capable

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.399
<v Speaker 2>of producing such a loud sound. I'll come back to

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<v Speaker 2>that in a second. Another question is why is the

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<v Speaker 2>sound so loud in an evolutionary sense. According to this

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven paper, a possible answer is sexual selection unconstrained

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 2>by predation risk. So the males of this insects species

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:59.119
<v Speaker 2>make the sound to attract females and possibly compete with

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<v Speaker 2>and drown out other males. So if louder sounds lead

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<v Speaker 2>to more chances to mate, evolution will keep selecting for them. Now,

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 2>a normal expected limiting principle on the loudness of that

0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:17.160
<v Speaker 2>sound would be that it would also attract predators and parasitoids,

0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.960
<v Speaker 2>so you know eventually you're going to be putting out

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 2>your ringing a dinner bell when you're making that sound

0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 2>saying come eat me. But the authors say, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know that much about what predators and parasitoids are associated

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 2>with these water insects, and as possible, water boatmen just

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>don't have many natural aquatic predators or parasitoids, and thus

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>there is little external limitation on the selection for loudness

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 2>of the scraping penis or paramere. But the authors say

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<v Speaker 2>that basically not enough is known about the associated predator guild,

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:54.520
<v Speaker 2>so this should be something study you know, needs further study. Now,

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 2>coming back to the question of how mechanically these insects

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>make such a loud sound, This has been looked at

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:06.959
<v Speaker 2>in subsequent research. Some other insects that produce underwater mating calls,

0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 2>such as carrixidy and microonectiny, have a strategy of resonating

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 2>their stridulation. So they like rub something underwater and then

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:21.600
<v Speaker 2>they resonate it through a trapped air bubble that they

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:24.639
<v Speaker 2>carry with them when they dive to breathe from. I

0:27:24.680 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 2>believe so a study by read at All from twenty eighteen,

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<v Speaker 2>which was linked by Jeremy in his original email, creates

0:27:33.400 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 2>a model suggesting that Schultze does the same thing resonates

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 2>through an air bubble, but with some efficiency improvements. And

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<v Speaker 2>I admit I tried my best to understand this paper,

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.199
<v Speaker 2>but I was not able to decipher all of the

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>technical stuff about acoustics in play. I believe if I'm

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 2>understanding it right, I believe their claim is that the

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 2>specific orientation, size, and distance between the insects sound producing

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 2>surface and its air bubble resonator create what they call

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 2>a high coupling efficiency, allowing for a huge gain and power.

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.240
<v Speaker 2>So according to these authors, it seems to be something

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<v Speaker 2>about the sort of the distance between and relationship and

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 2>physical relationship between the air bubble and the striated surface.

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, I'm not sure I follow all the technical

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>details on that, but nevertheless, this is a fascinating animal.

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<v Speaker 2>It is amazing to think about how such a tiny

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<v Speaker 2>creature can produce such loud sounds. And yeah, if you're interested,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to read more, you go look it up

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<v Speaker 2>Micronecta Schultzi, And thank you Jeremy for writing about this.

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<v Speaker 2>on our episodes with sort of related but new trails

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<v Speaker 2>to run down. Okay, I think that does it for today.

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