1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Welcome bird gang. We've got ourselves a victory Monday seconds 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: in as many weeks. The two wins though very different. 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: On today's show, the Cardinals made it hard on themselves, 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: harder than it needed to be. When it's a win, 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: you take it and don't look back. All three phases 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: had a hand in the thirty three, twenty sixth victory. 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: We'll discuss all of the good and some of the bad, 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: but first we debates who did it better, Theadre Hopkins 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: or Larry Fitzgerald. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode three seventy five, 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: by Hun Day, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy Cardinals dot com, Slash Podcasts. 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Murray roll to the right, throws near side of Fritz 15 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Pot He's into the ends after the touchdown. Here's Craig 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Had a lot of fun earlier 17 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 1: this season. MJ when we asked better throw or better 18 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: catch on the hale, Murray certainly gained a lot of 19 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: traction on social media. Got another one for you whose 20 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: catch was better, DeAndre Hopkins who had a couple, or 21 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald and that touchdown? Wow, this is like one 22 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: in one eight. We're talking about, you know, and Hopkins 23 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: had that fumble. But we're talking about you know, Hopkins 24 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: been in the league for eight years. I mean, he 25 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: doesn't drop a lot of passes, and we know how 26 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: kind of hands he has and how he tracks the ball. 27 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: And Larry we know he's done it over seventeen years. 28 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: I just think when you look at how many players 29 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: are on hop versus Larry, but the fact that Larry's 30 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: had the wherewithal to get his butttocks down and Larry typical. 31 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Larry watched the play, He catches the ball with his 32 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: hands and he brings it in. So again, I guess 33 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: there's no right or wrong answer. I'm gonna go with 34 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: fits though. Let's break down the two catches. There was 35 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: actually a third if you want to talk about Hopkins, 36 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: but the one in which that you referred to between 37 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: two defenders, the second quarter forty five yard catch. Hopkins 38 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: called it one of his top eight catches in his career, 39 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: and I immediately thought of his quote following the hail 40 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: Murray when he was surrounded by three defenders. At that point, 41 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: he said postgame quote, they were in position. It was 42 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: just a better catch by I. End quote. Same situation 43 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: this time two defenders, but a better catch by I. 44 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: He also had the game winning touchdown catch the twenty 45 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: yard in which it was just one defender, but the 46 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: fact that he had his hands on the football, got 47 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: two hands on the ball, a ball that was thrown 48 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: right over the defender's head, and just Hopkins's strength those 49 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: two hands, and we know we talked about it on 50 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: Cardinal Talk. Paul calbas he brought it up during the broadcast. 51 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: He was wearing four X gloves. He threw them off 52 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: after he fumbled the ball and started wearing five X gloves. 53 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: But he caught that ball with two hands and then 54 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: put the ball in the right hand furthest from the 55 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: defender falling down. The ball never moved as he hit 56 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: the ground and he gets the touchdown. So you see 57 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: the athleticism and just the strength I think of DeAndre Hopkins. 58 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone with stronger hands than d hop 59 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Now with fits however, I just think you see what 60 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: we have grown accustomed to, and I think maybe sometimes 61 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: we take for granted the ball was thrown behind the 62 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: defender who never looked back for the football. Fitz reached 63 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: around the defender, grabbed it, falling backward. Doesn't look like 64 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: Fits his eyes ever come off the ball, even with 65 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: the defender's arms in the way, and as you said, 66 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: falls backwards, lands in the end zone, touchdown and everyone celebrates. 67 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: It might have been the biggest moment for the team 68 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: to see number eleven finally get into the end zone 69 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: for his first touchdown of the season. So it was 70 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: an impressive job by Fits, and I'll give it to 71 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: the old man, according to DeAndre Hopkins, who joked that 72 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: he hoped to be doing the same when he was 73 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: forty something and then quickly corrected himself, saying, oh, hey, 74 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: thirty something, because Fitz is not quite the Big four 75 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: zero Greig, nice job. That was a great description. I know, 76 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, maybe we were doing cards cover two from 77 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: the facility. We had to come in after a game 78 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: and show us highlights, and we had Kyle on Wednesdays 79 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: and now because we're working from home. But that was 80 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: a great description. I felt like I was right there 81 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: sitting next to you watching that game. I must have 82 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: watched both plays or all three catches at least a 83 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: dozen times because one by the way I keep delete 84 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: on the broadcast for Fox yesterday was phenomenal. Just a 85 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: different broadcast, different descriptions, but a former player and a 86 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: defensive back who has a different version or different vantage 87 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: points watching the game than a normal fan would. So 88 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that watching the game back this morning. And 89 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: then just the athleticism, the skill sets. You don't need 90 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: to have great speed, you just need to know angles, 91 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: body control, and I think Fits and Hopkins have both 92 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: of that. We have taken for granted, Larry Fitzgerald, I 93 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: just hope we don't make that same mistake with DeAndre 94 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: Hopkins here. It's your one of we hope is going 95 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: to be a long term relationship. We should assume and 96 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: expect these things. But every time you're like, wow, okay, 97 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: and it seems like it's almost route team for those 98 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: two players, and Craig, you know, both guys after the 99 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: game addressed the media and we are able to hear 100 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: those and you know, if you're listening to the postgame show, 101 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: we always try to get you the head coach and 102 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: the quarterback and then the star player will have cuts 103 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: for you. But it was interesting how these conversations are 104 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: still going on between Hopkins and Murray to where they 105 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: both are challenging each other, but they're they're they're trying 106 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: to get on the same page. And you know, Murray's 107 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: got so much going on on the on the sidelines, 108 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: like he's got to worry about, you know, going back 109 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: out there. Who the corner is. I just wonder, you know, 110 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: because and something we can talk about here now, I 111 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: guess is that you know, when we're out there for 112 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: the open portion of practice, Um, we're out there for 113 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: first twenty minutes. Now. I've been told that there are 114 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: times that Hopkins will go out there maybe for fifteen 115 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: to twenty snaps and in practice and days that we 116 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: don't think he practices. But all these conversations, Kylo's got 117 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: a lot going on. I just wish they would, you know. 118 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: And people are gonna say, well, they're trying to get 119 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: on the same page. Well, you can get on the 120 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: same page during the week two, would you agree? Absolutely? 121 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's where you do most of your work. 122 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: Bertrand Berry talks about it constantly, either post game or 123 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: on the Red Sea Report that Monday to Saturday, that's 124 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: where the coaches put in the work and that's where 125 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: the players need to sit there and listen, and Sunday 126 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: you just have fun. I mean, that's where you have 127 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: your that's where you enjoy the fruits of all of 128 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: your labors, so to speak. But yeah, there certainly has 129 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: been a lot of conversations to a certain extent. Yeah, 130 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: maybe that gets corrected during the course of the week, 131 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: but maybe they're seeing something from the defenses in real 132 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: time up close that you kind of don't really see 133 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: on film, or that you see something differently because you're 134 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: talking about your two biggest offensive weapons quarterback, wide receiver, 135 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: and yeah, you want them to be on the same page. Well, 136 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: great point. Kingsbury told us on Monday that Chase Edmonds 137 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: play the run. Larry told him he think it would 138 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: work a couple of plays earlier, and that was the 139 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: play that actually had Larry blocking, So that that stuff 140 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: does happen. But it's just Kyle's got so much going on. 141 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: And again, we all know that Hopkins likes to be targeted. 142 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: He lights his touches I get it, and that's why 143 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: they made him the highest page wide receiver in football. 144 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: But he's got a lot going on. It's just like 145 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: I said, you know, I think Kyler knows that if 146 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: he's open or quote, if he feels like he can 147 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: catch that ball, because a lot of times he's you know, 148 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: they're bracking him a little bit and give Kingsbury a 149 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: lot of credit moving him around. We saw a slant 150 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: pass yesterday, we saw some take some shots down the 151 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: field where prior earlier in the week he said, that's 152 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: really not our offense. But dictated on their secondary they're 153 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: down to their fourth and fifth corners, so to speak. 154 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: So again, down in distant matchups will dictate what you're 155 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: gonna do. But like I said, and one thing what 156 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: Hopkins is when you bring in a guy like that 157 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: of that caliber. And again we can debate Julio Jones 158 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: and Mike Thomas and Thomas hasn't played a lot this year, 159 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: and probably some others receivers, but they've moved those guys around. 160 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: I just wonder why it took so long. And I mean, 161 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: to me, we're seeing Kyle throw the ball more in 162 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. These Dan Arnold's passes, so 163 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: a given credit. But I just think when you when 164 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: Hopkins is target so much that if he's got two 165 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: or three guys on him, somebody else should be open 166 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: and happening. Hopkins on the field shouldn't make players around 167 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: them even better, and hopefully that's the case. I think 168 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: we got a chance to see Keishaw Johnson NFC make 169 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: some plays. Christian Kirk even though I wanted him to 170 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: turn up field. We know Larry can be just energizer bunnies. 171 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't have any issue blocking, and then you know 172 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: you throw him. You know Chase Hemmons, who's really become 173 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: a really good back on the backfield. So those are 174 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: things that you know it's going to take time. But 175 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: given these guys an entire offseason will be much better 176 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: next year and a lot more yards after catch, whether 177 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: it was Hopkins or Dan Arnold, because you want to 178 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: see those players in the open field, and that's what 179 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: you talk about when you move them around or throw 180 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: them on a slant pass, throw them open, lead them 181 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: into their routes and where they're going, and I think 182 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: then you'll be able to see this offense really hum 183 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, and we'll get into it here. 184 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: They did put up over five hundred yards, score thirty 185 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: plus points. Yet we're sitting there going wait a second, 186 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: they're leaving points on the field. So there is that 187 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: as well. Quick note on Hopkins after yesterday's contest, he 188 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: is now leading the league in receiving yards thirteen hundred 189 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: and twenty four. He is number two in receptions one 190 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: hundred and three and has been targeted one hundred and 191 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: thirty eight times, So one hundred three catches on one 192 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight targets. That's a pretty good percentage, 193 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: very good. And you know he was on pace where 194 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: I think fifteen hundred yards fifteen fifty I mean, it's possible. 195 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: You know, I think he probably wants to cut more 196 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: touchdowns because when you see how many targets and touches. 197 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: But we know how much this team likes to run 198 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: the football in the red zone, and I think the 199 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns and of course Kyler Murray, he's taking a 200 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: lot of touchdowns away from a lot of guys on 201 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: those you know, when they get to the red zone. 202 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: So but do you know how has the record for 203 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: single season games over one hundred and fifty plus receiving 204 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: yards in a single season, single season were the yards 205 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: on the Cardinals. No, Roy Green, the Jets stream all right, 206 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: he was a bad man back then. Might be the 207 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: only record he still has that Larry's Fitzgerald hasn't surpassed. 208 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: Has done it two times. He has two. Those happen 209 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight and two thousand and seven, 210 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: and Kuombolden did a couple of times. Gary Clark did 211 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: it in ninety three. But Roy Green has the record 212 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four five games in a single season one 213 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty plus. Hop has two with two games 214 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: to go, and just his first season with the Cardinals. 215 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: My guess is his jet stream might lose that record 216 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: here in a season or two. So you're saying, now 217 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: it's not one hundred, it's one hundred and fifty plus. 218 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: So you're saying, next year we can just plug him 219 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: in for five? Sure? Why not? Okater six? 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Again, that's 229 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: Asy Cardinals dot com slash twelve days for more. Well, 230 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals are eight and six back to back wins. 231 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: They are the number seventh seed in the NFC. They 232 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: beat the Eagles on Sunday thirty three to twenty six 233 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: Week fifteen, and however, MJA was far from perfect. But 234 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: as we mentioned on Cardinal Talk, you never apologize for winning, 235 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,719 Speaker 1: especially when you turn the ball over three times at 236 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Coach Cliff Kingsbury called it a heck of an accomplishment 237 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: to win despite those three turnovers. In fact, the Cardinals 238 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: before yesterday had a two and forty record in games 239 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: it had a turnover margin of minus three or greater 240 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: in the last twenty years, so they are now three 241 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: and forty. In such games, you never want to be 242 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: in that situation, but the Cardinals turned it over twice 243 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: in the red zone, and then of course the other 244 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: turnover as well. But they're able to get the win 245 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: because of what we like to say complementary football. The 246 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: defense picks up the offense, the offense picks up the defense, 247 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: and then special teams set up a touchdown and also 248 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: helped flip field position that helped set up another touchdown. 249 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: So let's get into it as far as the complimentary 250 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: football from Sunday's game, and look at the offense first 251 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: and foremost. We said they left points on the field. 252 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Yet Kyler Murray passed for a career high four hundred 253 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: and six yards total, four touchdowns, completed seventy five percent 254 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: of his past attempts, nine different receivers caught a pass, 255 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: and there was one stretch in which he had thirteen 256 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: straight completions. That was about as good of a Kyler 257 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Murray performance as we've seen. Yet the throw into the 258 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: end zone which he was picked off, that ball did 259 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: not look good coming out of his hands because from 260 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: the end zone view, it was fluttering almost like he 261 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: threw it and then at the last second said, oh no, wait, 262 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, you're not open. I need to pull it 263 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: back and it was too late and it was an 264 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: easy interception for the Eagles. Yeah, I thought the same thing. 265 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: I didn't when we were watching the game in person. 266 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: I didn't see it until this morning, how the ball 267 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: was wobbly and you could tell he knew right away. Yeah, 268 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: I mean again, he's still learning, but the game's on 269 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: the line like that, you know, I mean everything, And Craig, 270 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: to be honest, just watching the game, I knew the 271 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals had five hundred and twenty six yards, but I 272 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: didn't realize Murray had thrown over four hundred yards. I mean, 273 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't like he threw threw like three bombs for 274 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: sixty yards. And you mentioned nine different guys called balls, 275 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: which is really good because they're spurning it around more 276 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: than they have and they're moving up and around, hopped around. 277 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: But that was a quiet four hundred yards. Well, I mean, 278 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean you follow the game as we I do, 279 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: but the thirteen in a row is very impressive. I mean, 280 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about a guy getting in sync and gaining confidence, 281 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: but also the ball security though Hopkins and Murray, I 282 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: mean they're running styles. They like to keep the ball 283 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: in one hand and trust me, they've touched it, you 284 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: know that amount of time, so percentage wise, and Murray 285 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: did a really good job last year protecting the ball, 286 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: but this year we're seeing it a little bit more 287 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: to where and it's easy for me to say, put 288 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: two hands on the football. He's running. When you run, 289 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: your arms go, you know, back and forth. So it's 290 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: not I mean, you can't be stationary, you can't stop 291 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: on a dime. But I mean they're lucky. And two 292 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: games Will Drake had a couple of fumbles and they 293 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: were able to recover those, but you can't be and 294 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: where those swumbles are happening, it's like that's going to 295 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: come back. And Cardinals have lost seven fumbles, six between 296 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and DeAndre Hopkins. Murray has lost four Hopkins too, 297 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: So your biggest offensive weapons are also your biggest liabilities, 298 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: at least they were on Sunday. Although what I did 299 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: like is both of them, when they met the media 300 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: after the ballgame, held themselves accountable, knowing that, like we do, 301 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: we expect a lot from them, they expect more from themselves. 302 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: And Murray even brought up an interesting point because you 303 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: have to have that short term memory, and he mentioned 304 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: that that interception stuck with him and he can't let 305 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: it stick because you have to push it aside, otherwise 306 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: it's going to affect the next play, the next series, 307 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: the next quarter. And I think that over time just 308 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: comes with learning. It's like a cornerback. You get beat, 309 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get beat, but you have to 310 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,719 Speaker 1: get ready for the next play, the next series. And 311 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: I think that as a young quarterback is something that 312 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: you have to learn to navigate, especially at the NFL level. Yeah, 313 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: and I thought Cliff did a good job a couple 314 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: weeks ago when Kenyan Drake wasn't running you know, north 315 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: and south, he was kind of bouncing outside, comes to 316 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 1: the sidelines and you know, he has a conversation. He 317 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: puts them right back in the game. Now, when you 318 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: put the ball in the carpet a couple of times, 319 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: probably in New England, you're probably not going to get 320 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: the next couple of possessions, but you know, nobody feels 321 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: worse than them at the time. You know again tenfold, 322 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: Yeah we're upset. Two hands on the ball. It's not 323 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: that simple. You're talking about, you know, a split second decision. 324 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: But like I said, you start going a little bit 325 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: deeper into the season here, and you're turning the ball 326 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: in your minus three. You're not gonna be playing the 327 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: Philadelphi Eagles every week. It's fun. And we talked about 328 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: the turnovers. You look at the final numbers, five hundred 329 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: and twenty six yards of total offense, the highest total 330 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: under Kingsbury. They only converted three of ten on third down. 331 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: That's their lowest percentage of the season, and all three 332 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: of those conversions went to DeAndre Hopkins. So at LEAs 333 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Murray is looking where he should look as far 334 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: as key downs are concerned. So you know, you jump 335 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: off to that sixteen nothing start, you got twenty six 336 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: points at halftime, you finished with thirty three. And that's 337 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: where the complimentary football comes in because at that point 338 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: this offense should easily have hit forty forty five points 339 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: the way they were rolling. They didn't. And maybe that's 340 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: too much for us to ask. I mean, even the 341 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs stumble. I mean, you can't consistently move 342 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: the ball up and down the field, and that's why 343 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: when things do stall offensively, you need another area to 344 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: pick it up, and I think defense and special teams 345 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: did that on Sunday, and that's complimentary football. When we 346 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: talk about complimentary football. Yes, the offense was able to 347 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: move the football early, but in that second half, Philadelphia 348 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: was able to start getting some tractions. So when you 349 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: get a fake punt and then all of a sudden, 350 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: your special teams come in, that's when this team has 351 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: won games. It's come playing complimentary football. And the fact 352 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: that they overcome the three turnovers, usually you don't win 353 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: those football games. The defense really set the tone, scoring 354 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: the first points of the game, the Cardinals first recorded 355 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: safety since twenty sixteen. And then they jump out to 356 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: that sixteen nothing lead, and you thought, okay, Cardinals on 357 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: a roll defense though could not keep that lead, and 358 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you've got a tie ball game 359 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: at twenty six twenty six. Yet what happened at the 360 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: end of the game the Cardinals the defense stopped the 361 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Eagles three straight possessions, including the final three tosses, two 362 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: of them into the end zone. And the Cardinals won 363 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: with their defense on the field. And I think that 364 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: speaks volumes, yes, because again, you know there's times the 365 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: offense is going to carry their water and they get 366 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: out to that lead, and then's sometimes the defense and Craig, 367 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: what's really when we start looking at it and we 368 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: know that Jordan Phillips is out, we know Corey Peters 369 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: is out, but on that final drought, they had Lecky 370 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: in there, they had Rashard Lawrence, and they had Zach Allen. 371 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: Now we know Allen was a day one starter. Um, 372 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: but you're talking about rookies, and you know, you can 373 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: make the case that they're no longer rookies after Halloween 374 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 1: or you know, Thanksgiving U. But the fact that you 375 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: got to give you know, Brinson Buckner and advanced Joe 376 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: so a lot of credit. They're not afraid to play 377 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: these Dennis Gardex and Ezekiel Turners and Tanner Vallejo. I 378 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: mean they really. I mean we think it's a cliche 379 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: and we always say next man up. Well, okay, there's 380 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: going to be a drop off. What they're we're able 381 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: to do with that pass rush those three guys, I mean, 382 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: it's impressive and there and again it's all a lot 383 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: about effort and working hard in practicing. I think when 384 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: we look at Reddick and Golden and Gardeck, that's who 385 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: they are. Six more sacks that's fourteen in the past 386 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: two weeks plus, the defense had nine tackles for loss. 387 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: And this Cardinals defense, even without a Chandler Jones, I'll 388 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: even throw in a Robert Alford Corey Peters. There are 389 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: still finding ways and I think that is a credit 390 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: to the coaching staff to scheme different ways to get 391 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: pressure on a quarterback and to make it a little 392 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: bit easier in the secondary for Patrick Peterson and Byron 393 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: Murphia Buddha Baker, Yes, they do miss Chandler Jones. It's 394 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: not like, oh, look they're doing this without him. They 395 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: don't need him. That's couldn't be further from the truth. 396 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: They are manufacturing this pass rush right now and flooding 397 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: as far as edge rushers are concerned, and getting pressure 398 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: from the middle that I think it's just working. Is 399 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: it's sustainable over a period of time, Probably not, but 400 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: it is working right now. You know, we had a 401 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: call last night on the postgame show, and you know, 402 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: they were talking about, you know, the future looks bright, 403 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: and you know, the Cardinals are definitely a lot better 404 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: than they wear a year ago. And I'm telling you 405 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: what I hear from people in the building is they 406 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: think if this offense can continue to flourish and they're 407 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: not talking about leaving three or four plays on the field. 408 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: They think they can make a run in the postseason. 409 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: They really do. And what the defense is done is, 410 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, this jet package, it's created a little bit 411 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: more of an energy to get to the quarterback and 412 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: it's aware now and teams that they're having a hard 413 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: time defending it. So you know, the car as you 414 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: always point out, the Cardinals defense doesn't have to be great. 415 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: They doesn't have to be good in certain situations down 416 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: in distance, and we got a chance and I'm sure 417 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: based on some of the questions today from Kyle Odegard 418 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, I mean we talked about, you know, the 419 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: Swiss Army knife and the eraser, and you know they've 420 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: been very consistent. Slow played inside linebacker and then safety. 421 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: But because the numbers he was, he got a chance 422 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: to rush the passer sixty three snaps. He played seventy 423 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: six percent of the defensive snaps. Talking about Isaiah Simmons, 424 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: he started now they list him as a linebacker on 425 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: the official stats page, but he started that game playing 426 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: free safety. He was about twenty twenty five thirty yards 427 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage. We also saw him inside. 428 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: We also saw him as an edge rusher and then 429 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: a little coverage playing slot. As far as trying to 430 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: defend one of those Eagles wide receivers, it has taken 431 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: a while, but I think you're right. This is what 432 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: they anticipated when they drafted him in the first round 433 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: and now you're seeing it here late in the season. 434 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: And I don't think the game's too big for him. 435 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: I definitely think it's slowed down. I mean, he's gonna 436 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: He made a couple of mistakes yesterday when he was 437 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: covering ERTs and it was a blocking play and he 438 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: urt was able to go buy him. He faced him, 439 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: he would have been able to tackle him and then 440 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: back the running back. But that's things you watch on 441 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: film and you know you don't make the same mistake twice, 442 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: so to speak. But I love his physicality. I like 443 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: his size, I like his speed. And you know, next 444 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: year when teams are preparing for the Cardinals, I mean, 445 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: you have Chandler Jones and we'll see who's still you know, 446 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: in different spots, but this guy, I mean, you don't 447 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: know where he's gonna line up and look at look 448 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 1: what Jamal Adams has done that Seattle Secondary. I mean, 449 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: he's got nine and a half sacks, you know, right 450 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: now the leader in the NFL. He's got twelve and 451 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: a half sacks. And we're two weeks away twelve and 452 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: a half. Last year, we had guys in seventeen eighteen nineteen. 453 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: It's surprising that fourteen sacks may win the sack title 454 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: this year. You know, all the offensive lines I think 455 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit protecting the quarterback. That's a 456 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: huge investment behind center that teams want to make sure 457 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: stay healthy for all sixteen games. And yeah, it is 458 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: interesting because and it's not just edge rushers, but Aaron 459 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: Donald in double digit sacks, Jamal Adams almost reaching double 460 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: digit sacks. So not your typical positions that are getting 461 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: to the quarterback time in and time out. Now the 462 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: one negative, And again, this is a game I think 463 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: if it had gone the other way, Cardinals are on 464 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: the other end of this contest on Sunday. This is 465 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: a game where everyone is up in arms, we're nitpicking 466 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Why isn't this working? Yet when 467 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: you win, it's easier to go back and say all right, 468 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: this didn't work. How do we get better? This team 469 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: has not gotten better, however, in the first half defensive 470 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: getting teams off the field ten times now in fourteen 471 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: games this team is allowed a touchdown or field goal 472 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: in the final two minutes. Five touchdowns, five field goals. 473 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: Then they did it again with the Eagles, scoring on 474 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: Greg Ward's touchdown with a minute nineteen to go. Then 475 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: make it twenty six twenty. We talk about at the 476 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: end of the game, you also need to stop at 477 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: the end of the staff as well, if you buy 478 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: into that momentum. I know, Kyle out a guard does not, 479 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: but it does make halftime a little bit better if 480 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: you can walk into that locker. I'm feeling good about 481 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: how you ended the first thirty minutes of play. Yeah, 482 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: and you know, the Cardinals didn't win the coin toss, 483 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: and you know you look at the Eagles and they'd 484 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: have heard. So it's important to try to score there. 485 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: And now normally clip to furs if the Cardinals win 486 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: the coin toss, so we know how important that first 487 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: possession is for the defense to kind of set the tone. 488 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: I think they definitely did that in the Giants game, 489 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: even though the Cardinals didn't play complimentary football during that 490 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: next possession. But yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's just 491 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: one of those situations where when you get into cent 492 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: scenario like that, I mean, you got to make sure 493 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: you're doing what you do best, and you know, at 494 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: that same time, we'll see. Now with that said, in 495 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: the second half, the Eagles had seven possessions, the Cardinals 496 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: defense only allowed one score and that was the game 497 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: time touchdown. Than that they were off the field. They 498 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: were getting the Eagles off the field. So everyone strives 499 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: to be perfect and it's almost impossible, but key situations 500 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: are you doing what you're supposed to do, And the 501 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,959 Speaker 1: Cardinals defensively were able to do that and picked up 502 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: the offense and the second half specifically because as you 503 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: pointed out, Cardinals only had one score. In fact, there 504 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: are only two scores of the entire second half combined 505 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: between these two teams. And I think that was a 506 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: lot of the defenses realizing, hey, we think this might 507 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: be a shootout, let's put the foot down right now 508 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: and put the game on our shoulders. And the Cardinals, 509 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: their defense on the field late very easily could have 510 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: been a Buffalo Bill's outcome against the Cardinals with another 511 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: Hail Mary with Jalen Hurts thrown into the end zone. Okay, 512 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: well again you watched this game this morning. I watched it. 513 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: Byron murshy. I mean everyone's thought that tight end caught 514 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: the ball, and now the ball did hit the ground. 515 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: But Byer and Murphy, he needs it. He plays down 516 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: the stretch. I mean there were like two or three 517 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: pass breakups, and then he also when they ran a 518 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: screen pass, he did. He had a really good tackle 519 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: in the open field. I thought Byron Murphy, you know again, 520 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, depending on what you're playing, zone or man, 521 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna be different for him. But I thought Byron 522 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: Murphy really showed up when the game was on the line. 523 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: I was I was thinking the same thing that this 524 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: is going to come back to mount the Cardinals, just 525 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: even how they approached and at the first half on 526 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: their own offense. Murphy was credited with three passes defense 527 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus, targeted thirteen times, eight catches, 528 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: forty six yards and a touchdown, but a key defense 529 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: on that final play of the ball game. Chris Banjo 530 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: credited on the series before breaking up the pass intended 531 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: for Dallas Goddard. That allowed the Cardinals defense to get 532 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: off the field a turnover on down. So yeah, complimentary football, 533 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: the defense picking up the offense. Let's turn to the 534 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: third phase of football, special teams and what they were 535 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: able to do, because I think they picked up both 536 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: the offense and the defense in this contest, and both 537 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: because of Ezekiel Turner. The block punt set up a 538 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: touchdown in the first quarter, and it was basically Turner. 539 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: I watched it again from the end zone view and 540 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: he just nudged the long snapper out of the way. 541 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't much of a hit and had a clear path, 542 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: and it was the first time Cameron Johnston had a 543 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: punt blocked in three seasons. In the ball rolled all 544 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: the way to the six yard line. Couple of plays 545 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: later and the Cardinals have the touchdown and a sixteen 546 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: nothing leading. At that point, MJ, you're thinking, hey, Cardinals 547 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: are cruising here. They very easily should have put the 548 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: nail on the coffin early in that contest. Yeah, I 549 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: mean I was thinking the same thing. And then you're thinking, hard, 550 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: this is the game. Maybe they could put up forty 551 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: again at the end of the day, you have to 552 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: win the football game. But yeah, and let's talk about 553 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: it was a gutsy call. Okay, Yeah, here's the situation 554 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: because there was a lot of discussion, and if it 555 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: goes the other way, everyone is hammering the head coach. 556 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: Right now, fourteen fifty six left to go in the 557 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: ball game, you have the ball at your own thirty 558 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: three yard line, and the game is tied at twenty six. 559 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: You almost have an entire quarter of football to be 560 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: played of a tie ball game. Yet at your own 561 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: thirty three yard line. Fourth and two, they got the 562 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: look they wanted and they rolled the dice. Andy Lee 563 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: throws a beautiful pass twenty six yards to Turner, once 564 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: again in the middle of a special team's play. They 565 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: weren't able to put points on the board on that drive, 566 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: but what it did it flipped field position. Defense forced 567 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: to three and out, and the offense responded with an 568 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: eighty six yard what proved to be the game winning 569 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: touchdown Kyle the murray to DeAndre Hopkins. Cliff was asked 570 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: about it. That's something they worked on during the week. 571 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: If they got a certain look and they had the 572 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: green he had the green light. Can you imagine it 573 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: like because different formations, but they had the matchup they 574 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: were looking for, and again they did practice it. This 575 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: is not the first time that Andy Lee, as you 576 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: pointed out last time in the pregame show, I think 577 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: he's he has two with the Cardinals and one with 578 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. He's two of two perfect passer writing. 579 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: I guess you would say, or at least perfect completion percentage, 580 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: but two or three for his career. As far as 581 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: throwing the football, what a throne, heotball had a spiral. 582 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: But you're right if that doesn't work, because it feel 583 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: and it's it's not like it happened in the first quarter. 584 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: The game's tie, you're in a fourth quarter, like you 585 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: don't get possessions away. But I mean that's Jeff Rogers 586 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: and he Cliff gave all the credit in the world. 587 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: But if that doesn't work, it comes on Cliff. Oh yeah, 588 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: because as the head coach, you're supposed to have the 589 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: final say. Although Jeff Rogers does have that assistant head 590 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: coach title in addition to special teams coordinator, and I 591 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: can't say enough about what he has done in the 592 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: two seasons with Kingsbury. The one season was Steve Wilkes. 593 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: And just overall, I don't know MJ if he has 594 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: any interest and becoming a head coach. And typically you 595 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: don't see special teams coordinators get head coaching opportunities, although 596 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: I'll say this, Joe Judge got one special teams coordinator 597 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: for the Patriots and now with the New York Giants. 598 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: And don't forget John Harbaugh was a special teams coordinator 599 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: before landing with the Baltimore Ravens. So there's two examples. 600 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: And you wonder why teams don't look more at special 601 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: teams to find their next head coach because special teams 602 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: they touch everyone on the roster. You don't just focus 603 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: on offensive players or defensive players. You have the entire 604 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: compliment in front of you to figure out how you 605 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: want to play on special teams. Great point. Just like 606 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: the strength and conditioning coach, he knows every single player. 607 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know Cliff talk. I mean Cliff at practice. 608 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: You know he's talking to guys as or they're walking 609 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: out there during an open portion. But let me, let's 610 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 1: be honest. Just focus on the offense advance and you know, 611 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: you look at Jeff Rogers and that's the cost of 612 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: doing business where you bounce around a lot of times. Sometimes, Craig, 613 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: you're better off being a lieutenant than general. And he 614 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, as long as you know Steve's here and 615 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: Cliff's here, I mean, he's got a job and you're 616 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: moving your family all the time. And I'm sure he's 617 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: one of the higher paid special teams coaches in football. 618 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 1: So I would love to know which his aspirations are. 619 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: But you know, he's in a good spot. And sometimes 620 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: you know the fact that he can work with everyone 621 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: versus becoming the head coach and ten things come across 622 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: your desk every day and you can't teach. I mean, 623 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: everyone's got a different personality. So I don't disagree with you. 624 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: I think he would interview. Well, we know he knows ball. 625 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 1: It's not just press special teams. I mean, he knows ball. 626 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: So but I sometimes you're just better off being a 627 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: lieutenant in general. That's that's how I feel like some 628 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: guys are better off being a coordinator than a head coach. 629 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: Bird Gang. 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By the way, 636 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: Andy Lee got a shout out by Peter King and 637 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: his Football Morning in America column the Special Teams Player 638 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: of the Week, along with Jets safety j T Hassell. 639 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray got a nod as well as the Offensive 640 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: Player of the Week, and as Darren Irban pointed out, 641 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: I believe it was on his Twitter account at Cards Chatter, 642 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: perhaps the question that we have been asking all season 643 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 1: long as far as the emergency quarterback on this team. 644 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,280 Speaker 1: It's not Patrick Peterson, but how about someone who's actually 645 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 1: thrown and completed a pass in an Arizona Cardinals uniform, 646 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: Andy Lee, Ladies and gentlemen, you're COVID nineteen emergency quarterback. 647 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: Tongue in cheek. Kingsbury hasn't said anything. I'm just no, no, 648 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: I like it. I like him to make that mention 649 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: that only that he's got he's got more attempts than 650 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: Chris Traveler. That's true. Did you also see that note 651 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: on Larry Fitzgerald and Peter King's column not maybe it 652 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: wasn't in his that was Larry Fitzgerald's first touchdown, like 653 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: three fifty four days. I did see someone ESPN stats 654 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: and infilm mentioned that Larry Fitzgerald and Frank Gore both 655 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns on the same day. To the older players 656 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, did does Brian get a 657 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: touchdown yesterday? He did too, first one since what twenty seventeen? 658 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: I was, Yeah, I read it somewhere earlier, and I 659 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: apologize I give a person credit, but it was almost 660 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: a year the last time Larry Fitzgerald caught a touchdown. Wow, 661 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: it's had three catches for thirty five yards. He was 662 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: targeted four times, didn't play well. Yeah, he was on 663 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: the field for forty six of these sixty eight offensive snaps. 664 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: Later in that ballgame, though, we did see Keyshawn Johnson 665 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: and Trent Serfield a couple of times. So wonder if 666 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: that was just the package or something that had happened. 667 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: But you're seeing a lot of different players at wide 668 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: receivers and sometimes when they line up, number eleven is 669 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 1: not on the field, which is a little bit odd. Yeah, 670 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: but I also think they're running a couple more two 671 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: tight end sets, and so you got to take somebody 672 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: out and then if you take if you go Now 673 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: we know Larry's a good blocker, but if you bring 674 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: in two tight ends, you know Keyshaw obviously size still 675 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: got get more consistent, but they are targeting him a 676 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: little bit. And if you have Hop out there, so 677 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: I understand it. I mean, I don't think it has 678 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: anything to do with COVID. You know, obviously those guys 679 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: are a lot younger, and Christian Kirk and Keyshawn, But 680 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: I just think when you go two or three tight 681 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: end or bringing in there Josh Jones and again Larry's 682 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: one of the better blockers like hines Ward throughout his career, 683 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: but you kind of want to get your ear your younger, 684 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: faster athletes out there. I think, just from a standpoint 685 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: of personnel, speaking of tight ends. Do want to update 686 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: the Bird Gang. Max Williams injured in Sunday's game suffered 687 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: an ankle injury, was listed as questionable and then ruled out. 688 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: Do not have an update on him, although according to reports, 689 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: when Williams got to the sidelines, he slammed down his helmet, 690 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: and we know he had an ankle issue earlier in 691 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: the season. The other injury is Dennis Gardeck, who was 692 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: carted to the locker room at the end of the game, 693 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: and that is something you'd never like to see, although 694 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: it was pointed out that the cart kind of stopped 695 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 1: because it looked like Gardick wanted to watch what was happening. 696 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,280 Speaker 1: I think it might have been one of the final 697 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: series of defensive plays and then they went into the 698 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: locker room. But no further updates on him as well. 699 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: But here you're looking at someone that not only does 700 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: well defensively, but special teams. He had two more special 701 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: teams tackles. Talking about Dennis Gardack in seven sacks this season. 702 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: So you hope that both of those players will be 703 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: able to return, if not this week, certainly by season's end. 704 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: And one of yards after catch on the Max Williams 705 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: throw and catch, I mean, did you see his new haircut? 706 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: I did the video that was posted ahead of the 707 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: game on the Arizona Cardinals social media account. It was 708 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 1: shaved and the sides a little bit. Yeah, you look, 709 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 1: I think he maybe he's trying to knock a couple 710 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: of years off his his look look yeah, yeah, yeah, younger. Yeah. 711 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: And to me, he was able to get a little 712 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: faster because it was high end fight, you know, so 713 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: they air going through the helmet. I thought he was 714 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,720 Speaker 1: a little faster on that play. So forty two yards 715 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: the current er long forty two yard catches a credit 716 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: to the haircut. Yeah, I mean depending on what you know. 717 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 1: Obviously we know he's the meat and potatoes guy. Um, 718 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: the good news is you had Durell Daniels who can 719 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: also catch the ball. But Max is you know, he's 720 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,919 Speaker 1: the best blocking tight out in the field. And maybe 721 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: we'll see some more Josh Jones, I guess we'll wait. Inficially, Guardak, 722 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you never want to see a guy 723 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: go off the field in the cart um. But again, 724 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: we watched Kenyan Drake and you know he had a 725 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: tallow himself very emotional and next thing, you know, we'll 726 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: just have to wait and see. But um, you know, 727 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: Dennis Gard's kind of you know, you root for the underdogs, 728 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 1: and you know he's he's earned the right to get 729 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: more playing time, and uh, you know, I I just 730 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: think the chemistry that he has going that rotation, you 731 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,800 Speaker 1: don't want to see that He's played just ninety three 732 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: defensive snaps this season, so he's averaging one sack every 733 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: thirteen point three snaps. All seven of his sacks have 734 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 1: come in four games in which he's played a combined 735 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: forty five plays, So he is making the most of 736 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 1: his opportunity. And I know people want him more on 737 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,799 Speaker 1: the field, but he just might be that player that 738 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: has that one, two, three packages that he fits best. 739 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 1: But if you give him more time, more touches, more reps, 740 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 1: that maybe he loses his effectiveness. Yes, and again that's 741 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: very similar to someone else. I mean, I don't think 742 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: it's a great example, but you know, when Drake was 743 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: on the Show off, Chase Evans got more of an opportunity. Now, 744 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I think Chase can be the guy. 745 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: You know, wouldn't surprise me if they turn it over 746 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: to him next year. We can have that conversation in 747 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: the offseason. But yeah, it's just that if he's on 748 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: the field, more teams will maybe try to go at 749 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: him a little bit more. Where Now, when you have 750 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: that jet package, who am I gonna I gotta put 751 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: a hat on forty four? I gotta put a hat 752 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: on forty three. I gotta put a hat on forty five. 753 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: I gotta put a hat on forty eight now, So 754 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: it's a little bit different where if you're out there 755 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 1: every single down, teams will find something. I'm not saying 756 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: he's a weakness, but he's like a closer. His job 757 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: is to come in there and get to the quarterback 758 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: or a set up guy in the eighth inning, you 759 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Where he goes six or seven innings, 760 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: maybe he won't be as effective. He has his role 761 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: and excels at his role. And it goes back to 762 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: advanced Joseph said in training camp, be a starter in 763 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: your role, and Dennis Gardeck is exactly that. All right. 764 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: Have we seen a guy take the next step now? 765 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, I was concerned can he 766 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 1: stay healthy? That zach Allen, he probably had his best 767 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: game as a Cardinal. We talked about it in the offseason. 768 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: He has to get stronger. I think the same was 769 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: for Dennis Gardeck. I think Dan Arnold, zach Allen, some 770 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: of those offensive lineman. Cliff said he worked out around 771 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: the clock. I'm GLADII didn't have to have surgery you 772 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: can make the case that he is a legitimate three 773 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: down defensive end and he can also set the edge. 774 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 1: So you know, you look at that draft pick. We 775 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: know how effective and productive he was in college. Now 776 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: we're starting to see it a little bit more at 777 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: this level, more consistent, win healthy, and there's the key, 778 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: win healthy healthy Zach Allen. You're seeing what he can 779 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 1: do with those eleven tackles, leading the team and tackles 780 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: as a three or putting your hand down in the dirt. 781 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: That is something you don't typically see a lot, but 782 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: certainly excellent to see if you're the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, 783 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: and normally you know Jordan Hicks, de Andre Campbell, you know, 784 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: maybe Reddick, you know Chris Spanjo Buddha Baker. But the 785 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: fact that he led and you talked about it, they 786 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: had what nine tackle for losses correct, Yeah, I mean 787 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: that's impressive. I mean you may get to a game 788 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: you're hoping to get four or five or six quarterback hits, 789 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: You're hoping to get three or four passes defense, so 790 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: that means they are running at the line of scrimmage. 791 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 1: Cardinals eight and six, two straight wins with one more 792 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: home game, to be played this week on a Saturday. 793 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: That's right Bell host the San Francisco forty nine ers. 794 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: And keep in mind, if you live in Arizona, the 795 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,800 Speaker 1: game will be on Fox ten. Correct. If you're outside 796 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: the state of Arizona, it will be on Amazon Prime, 797 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 1: So you have to figure out how you can watch that. 798 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: But in both local markets the Bay area of Santa 799 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: Clara and Phoenix, Miracopa, hopefully the state can't misspeak here, 800 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be on channel ten, Fox ten, so 801 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: two thirty on Saturday. But just let you know if 802 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 1: you're out of state, the only other are you gonna 803 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: watch it is Amazon. It's not on the NFL network. 804 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: So let's again Saturday games are trying to do some 805 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: different stuff. I think we're starting to see a little 806 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: bit of the future. Yeah, it's part of a triple 807 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,880 Speaker 1: header on Saturday, four Week sixteen. On that note, we 808 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover 809 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: two presented by Honday, private partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 810 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: Always good to be on for a victory Monday. And 811 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,720 Speaker 1: we'll move on to Tuesday to kind of talk still 812 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: about Sunday, but also look ahead to the forty nine 813 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: ers as well. Special thanks as always to our executive 814 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,439 Speaker 1: producer Jim Amhundro. For Mike Jarecki, I'm Craig Rayel Loup. 815 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two,