WEBVTT - Christmas Island, Part 2: Deca Deca Pod Y’all

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey you welcome to Stuff to Blow

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<v Speaker 1>your Mind. My name is Robert lamp and I'm Joe McCormick,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's Giant Crabs time. That's right. We are continuing

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<v Speaker 1>our exploration of Christmas Island. And if you would, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you're asking yourself, white guys, where's Christmas Island?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about? Well, then that means you

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<v Speaker 1>need to go back and listen to the episode that

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<v Speaker 1>published right before this one, because that one will explain

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<v Speaker 1>where Christmas Island is, what its whole deal is, what

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<v Speaker 1>the human history happens to be concerning Christmas Island. And

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<v Speaker 1>we go in depth about the red Crab of Christmas Island,

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<v Speaker 1>it's most singular and famous decabod inhabitant. Now it has

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<v Speaker 1>another decapod inhabitant that is by no means limited to

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas Island, certainly not to the extent that the Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Island Red Crab is. And that other capad inhabitant is

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<v Speaker 1>the coconut crab or the robber crab, which is another

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<v Speaker 1>glorious clawed crustacean on in its own. Now I have

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<v Speaker 1>to admit even though, as we mentioned the previous episode,

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<v Speaker 1>there's virtually nothing Christmas Uba about Christmas Island other than

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the guy who named it happened to

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<v Speaker 1>name it on Christmas Day. I think you decided, like

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<v Speaker 1>back in June, like, well when it when it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for Christmas, we're just going to talk about crabs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's enough. It's enough of a reason for me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have to admit that I keep um hearing the

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas song Christmas Island in my head. Is I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about this east even Oh well it's it's I can't

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<v Speaker 1>remember who recorded it originally, but I think like Being

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<v Speaker 1>Crosby did a version of it. Leon Redbone a fabulous

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<v Speaker 1>version of it. Uh. And it of course is just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this silly, cheesy song about weirdly about like

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<v Speaker 1>having some sort of an an ideal fantasy Christmas on

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<v Speaker 1>some distant island, but also some this whole bit about

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<v Speaker 1>how it's going to keep your woman from straying from you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really notice this part of it until I

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<v Speaker 1>started reading the lyrics. But it's like you'll never stray

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<v Speaker 1>because it's gonna be Christmas every day, um, which which

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<v Speaker 1>is weird. But this reminds me of another another Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>song I listened to, made on purpose to be creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a lot of creepy Christmas songs there was.

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<v Speaker 1>There was I've been listening to a lot of like

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<v Speaker 1>R and B, like old R, R and B kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Christmas songs and plays on one of the Soma

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<v Speaker 1>FMS channels, and there was one I was listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the other day and it had a similar thing that

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<v Speaker 1>was like, baby, You're never gonna leave me because when

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<v Speaker 1>with me it's Christmas every day. We seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>very bold promise to try and make to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your your prospective girlfriend or wife. The nog never stops.

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<v Speaker 1>We will have eggnog every day. There will be a

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<v Speaker 1>tree alive Christmas tree in the house every day. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a high bar. I have a live in Santa

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<v Speaker 1>But it made me think, well, what if Christmas Island

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<v Speaker 1>was actually about Christmas Island? We may end up cutting this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to sound, but but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it would go something like this, How'd you like to

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<v Speaker 1>deck the holes with the deck of pods? How'd you

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<v Speaker 1>like to see a crab so big you'll worship it

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<v Speaker 1>as a god. If you ever spend Christmas on Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>side and you will never sleep, You'll probably weep when

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<v Speaker 1>robber crabs come for you. How would you like There's

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<v Speaker 1>another verse, how would you like to eat? Carry on

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<v Speaker 1>like the robber crabs do? How'd you like to see

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<v Speaker 1>them snip baked coconut? Directly in two? If you ever

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<v Speaker 1>spend Christmas on Christmas iland, you will never sleep, will

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<v Speaker 1>probably weep when robber crabs coming for you? Can I

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<v Speaker 1>applaud now? Yes you can. Again. We may cut that,

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<v Speaker 1>but hopefully it will become a standard. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>think is the longest period of unbroken singing that has

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<v Speaker 1>ever happened on this podcast before? Oh? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably from of when Julie Douglas was one of the hosts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh did she sing? She she she did have a

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<v Speaker 1>knack for busting into show tunes. Well, oh wait, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if they were show tunes, but she did

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<v Speaker 1>have a knack for bursting into song. Well, I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that this art you've just shared with and it

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<v Speaker 1>raises so many interesting questions, like how big would a

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<v Speaker 1>crab have to be before you worshiped it? As a god. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look up a picture of the robber crab

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<v Speaker 1>or the coconut crab specifically, if it is next to

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<v Speaker 1>a human being or on something that you can you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have you know the size for like a garbage can. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta break your heart, Robert. There is a viral

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<v Speaker 1>image you've probably seen of a coconut crab or robber

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<v Speaker 1>crab on a garbage can. And unfortunately, in that image,

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<v Speaker 1>the garbage can is a smaller than average garbage can.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still a garbage can, but you're getting a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a skewed perspective. Okay, well, there I saw

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of it of one of these crabs fixed

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<v Speaker 1>to a tree next to Brian Cox. Not the actor

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Cox, what a shame, but be the science scientists

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<v Speaker 1>and science communicator Brian Cox. And I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>it looks big enough in that in that particular photo

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<v Speaker 1>to worship. Oh these things are plenty big. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>can see people worshiping. So okay, we we've mentioned several

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<v Speaker 1>times today we're gonna be talking about the coconut crab

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<v Speaker 1>or the robber crab. This is Burgess Latro and it

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<v Speaker 1>is the largest land dwelling arthropod on Earth, though technically

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<v Speaker 1>not a true crab. They are deca pod crustaceans, but

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<v Speaker 1>not a member of the infraorder brack Era, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what true crabs are. But if you don't tattle on us,

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<v Speaker 1>we can call them crabs today, right right, If hermit

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<v Speaker 1>crabs are called crab abs, I mean, they're not technically crabs,

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<v Speaker 1>but we call them crabs, coconut crabs, we can call

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<v Speaker 1>them crabs loosely referred to as crabs. And and even

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the you know, the more scientific literature

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at here, they'll still just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>calm crabs, I notice. Yeah, So if it is the

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<v Speaker 1>largest land dwelling arthropod on Earth, how big is that? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>How big do you have to be? Well, a standard

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<v Speaker 1>adult robber crab is about one meter or about forty

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<v Speaker 1>inches measured from the tips of the legs. They can

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<v Speaker 1>weigh about four point five kilograms were almost ten pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>And that is a big arthropod to be on land,

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<v Speaker 1>right there. They're not the largest arthropod ever or overall,

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<v Speaker 1>the largest ever that we know about. It was probably J. Calopterus,

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<v Speaker 1>which is this extinct genus of C. Scorpion that probably

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<v Speaker 1>got about two point five meters long. These things were gigantic, terrifying,

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful extinct creatures. The largest today in terms of leg

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<v Speaker 1>span is the Japanese spider crab, which can in extreme

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<v Speaker 1>cases have a leg span of almost four meters, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's also kind of spidery with like big skinny legs,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it depends on how you count size. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like those big spider crabs, they kind of look like

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<v Speaker 1>they are the skeleton for a tent, right, It's like

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're in a contest to get measured biggest by

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<v Speaker 1>leg span alone. Uh So, I guess it all depends

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<v Speaker 1>on how you're measuring. But being the largest land dwelling arthropod,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is something very special on its own, because,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've often discussed psychologically, I think to us, the

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<v Speaker 1>sea is still very much that other world where strange

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<v Speaker 1>and unfamiliar life forms are expected. They're okay, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>okay with you that there are sharks in the sea,

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<v Speaker 1>but if there were sharks on land, it would not

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<v Speaker 1>be okay with you. And the same is true for

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<v Speaker 1>large crustaceans. When you see a meter long decapod walking

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<v Speaker 1>around in your front yard, and you haven't grown up

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<v Speaker 1>around creatures like this, you may feel you've been transported

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<v Speaker 1>to an atomic age monster movie, like something is wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I realized that people who live close to

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<v Speaker 1>um to to the sea and are around crabs, they

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<v Speaker 1>may be more used to finding the occasional crab indoors,

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<v Speaker 1>the occasional land crab walking around in their house. I

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<v Speaker 1>always still when it happens to me, like if on

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<v Speaker 1>vacation somewhere and a crab is in the house, it

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<v Speaker 1>is an exciting and special treat. And and I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say that when my wife and I went on

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<v Speaker 1>our honeymoon to yu Lapa, Mexico, just a little island,

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<v Speaker 1>so again, uh the kind of place where land crabs

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<v Speaker 1>have a field day. And indeed, our our our journey

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<v Speaker 1>there seemed to time nicely with uh this surge of

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<v Speaker 1>tiny land crabs that were just walking all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>And since we were staying in this kind of hut

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<v Speaker 1>type structure that was right on the beach, during the night,

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<v Speaker 1>crabs would be all over the floor to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the point where you had to be careful where you

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<v Speaker 1>were stepping because you might step on a crab if

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching, and you know, they can't actually climb up

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<v Speaker 1>into bed with you or anything. But it was still, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was quite a crazy environment to find myself in. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you prevent them from getting in bed with you? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they just didn't. They didn't seem like they were really climbers.

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<v Speaker 1>The crab we're talking about here today, the coconut crab

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<v Speaker 1>um again not a true crab heck of a climber.

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<v Speaker 1>But these particular crabs, they I never saw them climb anything.

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<v Speaker 1>They would they would come in under the doors and

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<v Speaker 1>they would sort of come in through cracks in the

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<v Speaker 1>wall and then fall down onto the floor and then

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<v Speaker 1>keep crawling, but they never tried to make it up

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<v Speaker 1>the bed. What a shame. The same huts, I should

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<v Speaker 1>mention also some of them had lost some plastic screening

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<v Speaker 1>up around the top, which permitted fruit bats to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and eat fruit and poop onto into onto the

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<v Speaker 1>floor of the hut. But we didn't have to worry

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<v Speaker 1>about that in ours. Wow. Okay, okay, So back to

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<v Speaker 1>back to Bergas Latro. Now. The last time we talked,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked primarily about the Christmas Island red crab, which

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<v Speaker 1>is mostly just Christmas Island and another small island group.

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<v Speaker 1>But the this this crab like animal, this decapod, crustacean

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about today, the king of crabs is not

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<v Speaker 1>just confined to Christmas Island, though it is very numerous

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<v Speaker 1>on Christmas Island. Yeah, they're found throughout the tropical islands

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<v Speaker 1>of the Pacific and Indian Ocean. But but Christmas Island

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<v Speaker 1>has the largest population by far. And as I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>they are excellent climbers, mostly though, to escape the any

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<v Speaker 1>dangers or threats that they're not crazy about if they're

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere near a borough. Now here's a question, what is

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<v Speaker 1>the danger or threat to the world's largest terrestrial arthropod. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my understanding is that the major threat, of course is humans,

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<v Speaker 1>which we'll get into in a bit. Though on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side, we have to say that the the Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>Island population of coconut crabs or robber crabs, it's also

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<v Speaker 1>the best protected population of of of robber crabs in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. So, you know, it's Christmas Island as always,

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<v Speaker 1>it's this it's this mix of humans really mess that

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<v Speaker 1>one up. And then the same time there's some great

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<v Speaker 1>examples of humans really trying to get it right. Uh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well we will talk in a little bit about using

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<v Speaker 1>them for meat and for their oil. Um. But yeah, so,

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<v Speaker 1>so how do they survive on Christmas Island specifically? Well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we we mentioned in the last episode about the danger

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<v Speaker 1>that the automobiles pose as well as trains pose to

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<v Speaker 1>the smaller Christmas Island red crab. But according to the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Department of Environment and Energy, between two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>ten and two thousand twelve, some two thousand coconut crabs

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<v Speaker 1>died on the roads of Christmas Island. They kept track

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<v Speaker 1>of the fatalities and they actually posted fluorescent pink circles

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<v Speaker 1>by the roadside drew a mind motorists to drive carefully. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've mentioned that the coconut crabs are relatives

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<v Speaker 1>of the hermit crabs, and if you see them, they

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<v Speaker 1>almost kind of look like gigantic hermit crabs. But what

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<v Speaker 1>we know is that hermit crabs will claim shells that

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<v Speaker 1>they find in their environment and inhabit them as protection.

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<v Speaker 1>Do uh do do we see anything like that in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the rubber crab or the coconut crab. Not

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<v Speaker 1>in the adults. So the adults don't use shells at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They're beyond that. Instead, the abdomen is is tucked partially

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<v Speaker 1>underneath the body, and they have a series of hardened

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<v Speaker 1>plates that provide covering along with the bruskley tufts of

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<v Speaker 1>skin along the rest of the abdomen. On my own shell, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what would they even climb inside football helmets?

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<v Speaker 1>But Fate whispers to the warrior, a shell is needed.

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<v Speaker 1>The warrior whispers back, I am the shell. What is

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<v Speaker 1>that from? No, it's some saying that's in It's in

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the Mission Impossible movies. It's on T

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<v Speaker 1>shirts and stuff. It's one of those like no fear

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<v Speaker 1>T shirt slogans. It's on T shirts. You say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where it originally. Are you saying it

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<v Speaker 1>should be in our T shirt shop accessible via stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to put your mind? No, I don't think so, just

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<v Speaker 1>throwing it out there. Okay. So, even though the adults

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<v Speaker 1>don't use the shells, juvenile coconut crabs do seem to

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<v Speaker 1>employ the shell method of hermit crabs for protection, But

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<v Speaker 1>the juveniles are hard to observe because they are often burrowed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a similar to what we saw with the red

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<v Speaker 1>crabs of Christmas Island. Like the the younger crabs, the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that have not reached adulthood yet, they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>try and just stay out of the thick of it

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<v Speaker 1>until they're they're they've reached the appropriate size and um,

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<v Speaker 1>the adults incidentally, they mold underground and special burrows, so

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<v Speaker 1>they'll they'll they'll just dig down into this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>spherical chamber and that's where they'll do all their molting

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<v Speaker 1>and then they'll come back up. Now, coconut crabs are

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<v Speaker 1>mostly sort of a deep blue in color, and they

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<v Speaker 1>tend to look kind of you see footage of and

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<v Speaker 1>they look kind of like brown fish, but you'll see

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bits of blue. Sometimes there's a tinge of

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<v Speaker 1>red in places. It becomes kind of like a weird

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<v Speaker 1>off purple. Yeah. And then of course they have claws.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a large left claw a smaller right claw,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kind of hard to pick up on the

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<v Speaker 1>size differential when you're just looking at them unless you

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<v Speaker 1>look closely, I find uh. But then they have two

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<v Speaker 1>pairs of long walking legs and a smaller pair of

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<v Speaker 1>appendages that are used for mating and egg manipulation. Now

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<v Speaker 1>these are land crabs, so do they have anything to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the water. Well, we see a some more

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<v Speaker 1>situation as with the the the the red crabs that

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about in the last episode. So they have

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<v Speaker 1>only the stigial gills and they'll actually drown if left

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<v Speaker 1>in water for more than an hour. The guilt tissue

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<v Speaker 1>is given over to a highly vascular what I often

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen described as lung tissue with lung in quotation marks,

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<v Speaker 1>but for for land lubber breathing. Yeah, these are land crabs.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the crabs of the forests. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and when we come back we

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<v Speaker 1>will discuss Charles Darwin's encounters with the coconut crabs. Than alright,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. So you know, Charles Darwin himself wrote about

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<v Speaker 1>coconut crabs in his eighteen thirty nine work The Voyage

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<v Speaker 1>of the Beagle. This was in his chapter on Keeling Island.

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<v Speaker 1>What was known as Keeling Island then, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>also now known as the Coke Coasts Islands or Territory,

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<v Speaker 1>which is another group of islands in the Indian Ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Darwin's observations were interesting. He starts by writing, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>I have before alluded to a crab which lives on

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<v Speaker 1>the cocoa nuts. It is very common. I love he

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<v Speaker 1>hyphenates cocoa nuts. It is very common on all parts

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<v Speaker 1>of the dry land, and grows to a monstrous size.

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<v Speaker 1>It is closely allied or identical with the beer ghost Latro,

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<v Speaker 1>so he basically he's already talking about the same animal. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The front pair of legs terminate in very strong and

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<v Speaker 1>heavy pincers, and the last pair are fitted with others

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<v Speaker 1>weaker and much narrower. It would at first be thought

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<v Speaker 1>quite impossible for a crab to open a strong cocoa

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<v Speaker 1>nut covered with the husk, but Mr Leask assures me

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<v Speaker 1>that he has repeatedly seen this affected. The crab begins

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<v Speaker 1>by tearing the husk fiber by fiber, and always from

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<v Speaker 1>that end under which the three eye holes are situated.

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<v Speaker 1>When this is comple leaded, the crab commences hammering with

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<v Speaker 1>his heavy claws on one of the eye holes till

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<v Speaker 1>an opening is made, Then turning around its body by

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<v Speaker 1>the aid of its posterior and narrow pair of pincers,

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<v Speaker 1>it extracts the white albuminous substance. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>as curious a case of instinct as I have ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard of, and likewise of adaptation and structure between two

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<v Speaker 1>objects apparently so remote from each other in the scheme

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<v Speaker 1>of nature as a crab and a coconut tree. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I'm missing something, But I honestly don't see what he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks is so strange about that the crab is a

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<v Speaker 1>creature of the dark, infernal depth, and the coconut is

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<v Speaker 1>is the fruit of heaven. I don't know one is

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<v Speaker 1>one is high the other low. I mean, because one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I'm at it when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>a coconut crab, I mean it kind of looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a coconut. Yeah, yeah, that is strange. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying like Darwin is dense here. Obviously, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>his insights about nature are usually pretty interesting, even when

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<v Speaker 1>he's wrong. Uh, I'm not. I'm not seeing what's so

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<v Speaker 1>strange about that. That seems like a very natural kind

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<v Speaker 1>of relationship. But I don't know. Maybe we're just used

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<v Speaker 1>to thinking post star winning and thoughts about this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. And I'll have a little more on coconut

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<v Speaker 1>crabs eating coconuts. A little later on in the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, yes, uh so, he points out a few

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<v Speaker 1>other things. He says that the crab is active in

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<v Speaker 1>the daytime, but every night it goes to the sea

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<v Speaker 1>to moisten it skills. And this seems contradicted by modern

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<v Speaker 1>reports in which I've read that the coconut crab is

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<v Speaker 1>not exclusively nocturnal, but it likes nocturnal activity sort of

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<v Speaker 1>prefers it, right, This is what I read too, that

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<v Speaker 1>it it will come out at night, but it also

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<v Speaker 1>it will come out if it's a cloudy day. And

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<v Speaker 1>it also it's very I think an environmentally informed. So

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<v Speaker 1>the coconut crab is living in an area where humans

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<v Speaker 1>or say dogs or whatever are going to mess with it,

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<v Speaker 1>that might impact how often it comes out. But if

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<v Speaker 1>they have free range and they're just gonna do whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it sounds like his report could be wrong. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>He says they live in burrows, that they dig under

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<v Speaker 1>the roots of trees, and that they make beds in

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<v Speaker 1>their burrows out of the fibers of husks that they

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<v Speaker 1>tear from coconuts. And I have I I have looked

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<v Speaker 1>for modern evidence of that I have not found that

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<v Speaker 1>anything about that. I didn't run across it either. I

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<v Speaker 1>certainly ran across observations that you will find like shredded

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<v Speaker 1>bits of coconut husk in areas where the crabs live,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think that is probably due to what they

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<v Speaker 1>do to coconuts and not any kind of like nesting ritual. Yeah. Interesting. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>If anybody out there knows of any evidence of that,

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<v Speaker 1>we would like to see it. Also Darwin on eating

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<v Speaker 1>the largest terrestrial arthropod, quote, these crabs are very good

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<v Speaker 1>to eat. Moreover, under the tail of the larger ones

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<v Speaker 1>there is a massive fat which, when melted, sometimes yields

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<v Speaker 1>as much as a quart bottle full of limpid oil.

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<v Speaker 1>He relays reports that the robber crabs climb up trees

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<v Speaker 1>to get coconuts, but doubts this is true. Other reports

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<v Speaker 1>say that they live only on the nuts that have

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<v Speaker 1>already fallen to the ground. And uh. And he also

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<v Speaker 1>says quote to show the wonderful strength of the front

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<v Speaker 1>pair of pincers, I may mention that Captain Morrisby can

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<v Speaker 1>find one in a strong tin box which had held biscuits,

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<v Speaker 1>the lid being secured with wire, but the crab turned

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<v Speaker 1>down the edges and escaped. In turning down the edges,

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<v Speaker 1>it actually punched many small holes quite through the tin. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So we must return to the subject of these tin

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<v Speaker 1>piercing claws in a bit now. As a side note,

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<v Speaker 1>I so, I was trying to find if there was

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<v Speaker 1>any evidence of the coconut crabs making husk beds in

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<v Speaker 1>their in their nests, and I kept I was googling

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<v Speaker 1>things like do coconut crabs make uh nests of coconut

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<v Speaker 1>husks or something? But every time I typed do coconut

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<v Speaker 1>crabs make Google wanted to auto complete Do coconut crabs

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<v Speaker 1>make good pets? What is wrong with this world? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is that what it's telling me to look up? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I did not research anything about keeping them

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<v Speaker 1>as pets, but it seems like they would seem like

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea. I mean, for one thing, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>a larger creature that seems like it needs to roam

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<v Speaker 1>around and live a fairly nomadic lifestyle. On the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>there there are varieties of hermit crabs that it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be more established as pets. Um not every species,

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<v Speaker 1>but a few particular species. They given the tin box story,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like they might be a little bit hard

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<v Speaker 1>to confine. Yeah, and yeah, and then the other thing too.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first saw them, the footage I foresaw of

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<v Speaker 1>them in that that documentary we talked about, they look

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<v Speaker 1>like brown fly covered um carrying gobblers. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure to what extent that you see that and you're like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I want one of those in my house. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they, like many crabs, they are opportunistic omnivores. So

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<v Speaker 1>even if they do in a way specialize in coconuts,

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<v Speaker 1>they also, uh, they will eat carry in I think

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<v Speaker 1>we already mentioned that, right. Yeah, they are into meat

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<v Speaker 1>when they can get it, even weird sources of meat

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<v Speaker 1>you might not expect. In fact, there there are viral

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<v Speaker 1>videos of them. I don't know if this is common.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like this is probably not super common, but

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<v Speaker 1>there there have been videos posted on the internet of

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<v Speaker 1>these crabs like attacking and killing live animals, like live birds. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking at one of these as well. The

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<v Speaker 1>cut of it, at least that I saw, I was

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<v Speaker 1>unclear exactly how they came counter one another. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a very good point. It cuts in in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of their encounter, so it could be that the bird

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<v Speaker 1>attacked the crab or they just stumbled into each other

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<v Speaker 1>by accident. So I wouldn't want to imply that the

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<v Speaker 1>crabs are like hunting the birds, but clearly if if

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<v Speaker 1>they were given the chance, they would they would kill

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<v Speaker 1>and eat a bird. Yeah, um, yeah, they're pretty fierce

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<v Speaker 1>creatures in fact that they have no natural predators other

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<v Speaker 1>than themselves and of course Charles Darwin if he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to eat one. But you know, on Christmas Island, they

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<v Speaker 1>reside almost in all corners of the vi nament. They

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<v Speaker 1>will certainly shelter under tree roots, as we mentioned, but

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<v Speaker 1>they also use like small caves, crevices, hollow logs and

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<v Speaker 1>just earth burrows, especially for that molten practice I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. And uh, and like we we've said, they

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<v Speaker 1>will generally stay out of sight during the day and

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<v Speaker 1>head out to forage at night, but also on overcast days.

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<v Speaker 1>And it does seem to also depend upon uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in the local environments. You know, winter humans,

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<v Speaker 1>about winter competitors about. They seem nomadic, but may return

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<v Speaker 1>to a specific burrow and may need to return to

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<v Speaker 1>the sea to drink water in order to obtain um

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<v Speaker 1>osmotic balance from time to time. This is something that

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<v Speaker 1>the Darwin actually touched on, and on larger islands they

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<v Speaker 1>seem to remain in the same area for exterior extended

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<v Speaker 1>periods of time. Not sightseers. Yeah, they're not really really sightseers.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what do they forage for? Well, they love vegetable material,

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<v Speaker 1>the fruits of various trees and the pith of fallen

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<v Speaker 1>orange of palms. But they also tear into some carry on,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've been been been discussing, and they have a

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<v Speaker 1>great sense of smell to aid in these hunts. One

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<v Speaker 1>diet fact I came across is that apparently it is

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<v Speaker 1>true that they've got a very crafty strategy for not

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<v Speaker 1>wasting energy after they molt, they eat their own discarded exoskeletons. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just that's just common sense right there. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who out there picks their dead skin and

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't eat it too much? For you? Now, Robert shifted

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<v Speaker 1>over to primates, and now you're like, no, I won't

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<v Speaker 1>take it um alright. So one thing that's probably um

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<v Speaker 1>come to some of your minds out there, is Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the link between the coconut and the coconut crab is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty obvious. But we've also referred to them as robber crabs.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does that moniker come from? I was wondering about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they do they have like a little like a

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<v Speaker 1>bandit mask kind of coloration or something? No, but what

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<v Speaker 1>I read is that they will obsessively carry off any

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<v Speaker 1>foreign object they come across, including pots and still aware

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<v Speaker 1>from camps, and thus they're no as robber crabs. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>these these uh, these crabs will live for quite a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I've read that they may live up to fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've also seen between thirty and forty, but longevity may

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<v Speaker 1>exceed fifty years. All right, So I want to come

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<v Speaker 1>back to a Darwin question. Darwin reports him and his

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<v Speaker 1>friends and Captain Moresby and all these people, they think

0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 1>these things are pretty good to eat. They produce tasty oil,

0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.439
<v Speaker 1>all that kind of stuff. Is that? I mean, are

0:24:28.480 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>there people who still eat these things? Well? I was

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 1>reading a bit about this in Coconut Crabs by Warwick J. Fletcher,

0:24:35.040 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and he points out that they are quite edible despite

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>their appearance as a large, you know, slightly grotesque fly

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.640
<v Speaker 1>covered scavenger, and he wrote that the crabs and many

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Indo Pacific cultures are are ceremonial importance for weddings, and uh,

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:53.320
<v Speaker 1>they're they're attributed with afrodes act qualities. And there are

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 1>also pretty easy to catch. Is the other thing. You know,

0:24:56.280 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 1>if a human wants to eat a coconut crab, they

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.919
<v Speaker 1>and do it. I don't know about fast moving yeah,

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know about you, but when I was

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:07.359
<v Speaker 1>looking around for footage of them, I inevitably found some

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>reality show about like a naked guy in an island

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.639
<v Speaker 1>that ends up did not find that killing and um

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.320
<v Speaker 1>and grilling and eating a coconut crap? Is it that

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.719
<v Speaker 1>TV show about putting a naked guy in the woods.

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:20.439
<v Speaker 1>I believe it is. I mean, I don't know how

0:25:20.440 --> 0:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>many shows with that description exist. You'd be shocked, but

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:25.919
<v Speaker 1>it is at least one of them. No, that was

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:28.440
<v Speaker 1>the primite it was, like I think it was. It's

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:31.240
<v Speaker 1>had the word naked in the title. I think it

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>was Discovery who did it too well. At any rate,

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 1>they're they're easy to catch. If you're an established hunter,

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you can do it, and if you're just some naked

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 1>reality TV star you also have a pretty good shot

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 1>at catching one and eating it. Uh. But but this

0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:47.959
<v Speaker 1>is unfortunate in some areas because it has pushed them

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 1>to the point of extinction in some parts of the world. Now,

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.199
<v Speaker 1>an interesting theory that Fletcher points out is that you

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>look at their distribution, um, you know, on these various islands,

0:25:58.280 --> 0:26:02.119
<v Speaker 1>and it roughly matches the atribution of coconut palm, leading

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>some to theorize that the coconut palm may have been

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 1>its means of migration, Like, how does that work? Well,

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the way I'm imagining he didn't really go into a

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of detail on this is I'm guessing they they

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.879
<v Speaker 1>arrived on like floating on bits of the tree or

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 1>perhaps coconuts themselves. Yeah, that's interesting, and I should point

0:26:23.040 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>out they are common only on island habitats where they

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>typically don't have to compete with as many terrestrial organisms.

0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:31.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's I think that's one they don't do

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 1>well where there are tigers or something. Yeah, well, it's

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 1>it comes back to the you know, the beauty of

0:26:36.680 --> 0:26:40.360
<v Speaker 1>an isolated island environment, right that you can you can

0:26:40.400 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 1>have certain organisms really go wild in ways that they

0:26:43.880 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be able to do elsewhere in the world. Okay,

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna take another break, and when we

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:52.640
<v Speaker 1>come back, we'll ask the burning question, was Darwin right?

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Can they actually open coconuts with their claws? We'll find out.

0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Thank alright, we're back, all right, Robert. I bet you

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>have seen videos of humans trying to open coconuts. It

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>often seems to require something like a machette, Like you

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.360
<v Speaker 1>need a very strong tool and some leverage to get

0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a coconut open, because these are these are hard nuts. Yeah,

0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I I mean, have you ever tried to open a coconut? No?

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I haven't. It's it's it's can be a bit difficult.

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>We we purchased one. I purchased one for the first

0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>time in the last year or two because my son

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:30.320
<v Speaker 1>like really wanted to eat one, and so I bring

0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 1>it home and then I'm like buster on the rest

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.479
<v Speaker 1>development I have to ask, like, how do you eat one?

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I have to like do YouTube search, how do I

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>open a coconut? How do I prepare it? And uh?

0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 1>And there are several steps involved. Um so, yeah, these

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>are these are robust uh nuts there, they are difficult

0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>to crack. This is something that it falls from a tree.

0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:53.800
<v Speaker 1>And hits you on the head. It can kill you.

0:27:55.600 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>So the the relationship between the coconut crab and the coconut.

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 1>This is apparently an area of some controversy because because

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that this is where they get their name,

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 1>uh you know, in the fact that we have all

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>these stories about them opening coconuts, we have a lot

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>less in the way of definitive proof. So a Fletcher

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that Warwick J. Fletcher I mentioned earlier, he points out

0:28:21.880 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>some of the more believable of the ideas regarding coconut

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>crabs opening coconuts. The first is that the crab first

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 1>de husks the coconut and then the stringy fibers, pulls

0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.560
<v Speaker 1>off the stringy fibers, and then climbs up the tree

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 1>with it and then drops it to bust it open.

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>This does not seem to be um a popular theory

0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>like this doesn't seem to be one that a lot

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>of people are really putting a lot of stock in

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>because it sounds crazy, right, the idea that the crab

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>would take the coconut, and despite being no one's doubting

0:28:53.640 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>that the coconut crab is not a great climber. But

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the idea that it would get the coconut and climb

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a tree and drop it seems crazy, um, I think.

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>The other likely idea is that it might crab climb

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the tree, of course, and and dislodge the coconuts somehow,

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>which is more likely given its ability to climb. But

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>then other versions are that it it simply de husts

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the coconut and then bashes the nut open with its claw,

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.800
<v Speaker 1>or that that it pokes a claw through one of

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the eyes, like the lower part of one of the eyes,

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and then snips the coconut open. Well, that would be

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>a very powerful snip. Fortunately, these are very powerful claws.

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>This last method, the snipping method, actually was observed by

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Fletcher in the lab, but he points out that it

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>took several days for the crab to do it. But

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 1>then again, like this crab is on its own schedule,

0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, for you to impose, you know, your human

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>schedule on this mighty decapod, quit hurry and me, we're

0:29:51.000 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>on crab time. We mentioned already that husts and broken

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>coconuts are often seen in the domain of the coconut crab. However,

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>contrary to opinions in the past, it is not a

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>pest for coconut growers, nothing on the level of say,

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>the rat, which is a true pest for coconut growers.

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Now that the crab here doesn't depend on the coconut

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:15.239
<v Speaker 1>as a primary food source. Again, it's happy with all

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>these other things that comes across to eat. It's a

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's an omnivore. Uh. It is not exclusive to

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the coconut, but it does seem to eat them. And

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>in order to eat them, it has to tear into

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>the coconut with those claws. The claws of the coconut

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>crab have the strongest pinching force of any crustacean. Uh.

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>And according to this according to a study published November

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>sixteen in the open access journal PLOS one by a

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a Japanese team of researchers led by shin Ichiro Oca,

0:30:48.320 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's saying something right. I mean, this is

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the strongest pinching force of any crustacean. Because decapods exert

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 1>the greatest pinching force relative to their mass in general,

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and and this is the greatest pincher of them all.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.600
<v Speaker 1>They write, quote, based on the crabs maximum known weight,

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the maximum pinching force of their claws was projected to

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>be three thousand, three hundred Newton's. This exceeds both the

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>pinching force of other crustaceans and the bite force of

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.719
<v Speaker 1>all terrestrial animals except alligators. Now, I was looking around

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>and I could be missing something, but I found that

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>to be slightly contradicted by other figures that were saying, like,

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, what would be the bite force of like

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a tiger or a lion, And I saw that estimated

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it somewhere around four thousand Newton's. I mean, even being

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>in the same ballpark as the bite force of a

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>tiger sounds pretty good. Well, yeah, because I don't know

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>about you, but when I think of being pinched by

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>a crab, I tend to think of it more as

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 1>an annoyance, not a bone crushing kind of right. Like

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 1>if I'm playing around on the beach and my son

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>and I see a crab and I'm like, oh, should

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I touch it on its head? And my son's like, oh,

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 1>don't do it, You'll get pinched. I'm not thinking about

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>losing a finger. But these these seconds are also strong,

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>h I've read that they can lift up to twenty

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.760
<v Speaker 1>or sixty one pounds and certainly if you look back

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to Kingdom of the Crabs that that documentary special narrated

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>by David Attenborough, you see like three or four of

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>them tearing across, tearing apart of bird carcass. So they're

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>they're powerful and should maybe be worshiped as gods. I'm

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:28.120
<v Speaker 1>just saying, well, I mean there's a reason when when

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>the crabs start doing their dominance displays, what do they do.

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:32.719
<v Speaker 1>They hold their claws up in the air. They're like,

0:32:32.840 --> 0:32:35.959
<v Speaker 1>look at the power, look at the glory. Do you

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>see it? Yeah? And that that again brings me back

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>to what Douglas j Emlyn pointed out in his book

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Animal Weapons, that you know, these are high energy adaptations

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 1>not only for just growing these powerful muscular pinchers, but

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 1>also the ability to wave them around like that, the

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>ability to put on that show. Yeah, And that's I mean,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>when you think about it, there are there are very

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>different kinds of powerful muscles that need Er can invest in.

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, You've got the muscles of a cheetah, which

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 1>no one would say are not very powerful, right, but

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>they're you know, they're powerful like the leg and the

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>body muscles that allow it to move very fast, and

0:33:12.680 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>then you've got these other I'm sure there's a biological

0:33:15.480 --> 0:33:18.239
<v Speaker 1>or biomechanics term for this I'm not aware of at

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the moment. That that's sort of like the single use

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>muscle that's therefore exerting a really powerful single force all

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>at once. It's not made for speed, it's not made

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>for you know, necessarily repeated use or anything. But it's

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>like the jaw muscles of the crocodile, and the crocodilians

0:33:36.240 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>have one of the most powerful bites or I think

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>the most powerful bite of any animal that comes onto land, right, Yes,

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>I believe. So this reminds me we should we should

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>come back and do a like a bite based episode

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 1>because I don't know, some some listeners might find it

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>a bit dry, but but I'm always fascinated about it,

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the ranking of the different bites. And then also when

0:33:55.960 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you get into the the study of what the the

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the estimated bite power would have been for something say

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>like a sabretooth cat. Yeah, yeah, of extinct animals. Well,

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I remember we were in our episode about the Wolf

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>of Whale Street. We were comparing the estimated bite forces

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>of the megalodon, the ancient gigantic shark and the Leviathan,

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>the ancient predatory whale, and I recall they were that

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>they were somewhere around each other. I think, yeah, I

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>believe they were comfortable. Robert, have you heard this bizarre

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>theory that Amelia Earhart was eaten by coconut crabs? No?

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I have not. Is this this is an actual theory? Well,

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't. It's not one of those that

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.520
<v Speaker 1>has good direct evidence for it. It's one of those

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>that it seems like every few years this shows up

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>again in a new round of articles on the internet

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 1>because I probably just because it's a captivating image, but

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 1>I think the idea so in seven Amelia are heart.

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, she vanished while flying over the Pacific with

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>fred Noon and her navigator, and nobody knows what happened

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>to them. It's often been presumed that there there might

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>have been bad weather and they crashed into the water

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>and they sank into the ocean and died, you know,

0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:11.399
<v Speaker 1>died in the crash or drowned. Uh. Everybody's always got

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>these these hypothetical what if she actually landed on this

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>island and something happened to the plane, and you know,

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and that's why we don't you know whatever. But there's

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:25.680
<v Speaker 1>apparently some theory that she crashed landed on an island

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>called Nico Maruro, and that her remains were not found

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:34.479
<v Speaker 1>there in full because they were consumed and dragged into

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>the dens of land crabs, of of coconut crabs. I don't.

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>As I said, there does not appear to be good

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>direct evidence for this is just more kind of like

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>what if this happened? Well, I mean, it's assuming that

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>she she did crash about an island like that and

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 1>either survived or didn't, she stayed there and she died there.

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>It seems highly likely that the land crabs would eat

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>her like abs are will scavenge and they will consume

0:36:03.120 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>human flesh. That's why you have that old bit of

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.960
<v Speaker 1>folk wisdom to never eat crabs after a hurricane, because

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 1>you're because I guess you don't want to eat crabs

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>that have been eating human flesh. I have not heard

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>that one. Wow. However, if you kind of secretly want

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to eat human flesh, probably never a better time. It's

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>a weird area to get into two jokes about hurricane

0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 1>related death, but here we are. Well, it didn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>to be insensitive about hurricane related death. But yeah, I

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I do not believe that there is any good reason

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to think that this is what happened to Amelia Hard.

0:36:35.280 --> 0:36:38.959
<v Speaker 1>I think most of the historians of or her biographers

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and historians think that they probably sank into the ocean.

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, for some reason, people want to keep coming

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<v Speaker 1>back to this one. I think they just like the

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 1>idea of crabs eating people. Well, like I said, crabs

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>are gonna eat people. Umy, crabs have probably eaten quite

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 1>a few people over over the course of human history,

0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 1>especially in uh in areas close to the sea. And ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>would uh would sky burial by land crab be that

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<v Speaker 1>bad of a thing? You know, I'm not sure it would. Yeah,

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 1>you could become part of somebody's limpid oil. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>could be one of the big trends in the future.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, as we're beginning to is removing even further

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:16.879
<v Speaker 1>away from uh from from burial of the dead. We've

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.319
<v Speaker 1>done whole episodes about some of the newer methods of

0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>burial that have become increasingly popular, the idea of green burials.

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps we will come back to something more like the

0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Tibetan sky burial, where a body is uh is ritually

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.920
<v Speaker 1>um taken apart and then fed to scavenging animals in

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.959
<v Speaker 1>the In the Tibetan case, it is vultures. But why

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<v Speaker 1>not land crabs, Why not the coconut crab. I think

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a good idea to give the invertebrates a taste

0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:49.720
<v Speaker 1>for us. Now, speaking of giant crabs that may consume

0:37:49.800 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 1>human flesh. Um, Giant crabs are, of course pretty popular

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<v Speaker 1>in motion pictures, and I know that's not as popular

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 1>as you might think. Yes, I think that there should

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>be way more or giant crab movies. Well, what are

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>some of the notable examples? I mean, the main one

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<v Speaker 1>that comes to my mind is Mysterious Island from fifty

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>one because you had those ray hairy house and effects

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>of that giant crab. Oh, those are great. I love

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Attack the Crab Monsters, the seven Roger Corman special. It's

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, I'm a sucker for the Atomic

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>age monster movies where there was atomic radiation and it

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 1>made a bigger version of some normal animal. Except it's

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 1>not just a bigger version of crabs in this movie.

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>It's great because they're telepathic, sort of immaterial magnetic electric

0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:40.480
<v Speaker 1>radioactive crabs that absorb the consciousness of everyone they eat,

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and they've got plans for world domination, and they slowly

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>are consuming the island that they live on. It's um

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just one of the best stupid movies ever made

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>because it is made with such energy and enthusiasm. I

0:38:55.760 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>think a lot of that goes to the script by

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Charles Griffith, who is one of my favorite B movie

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>v writers. Uh, there's a gleeful embrace of the absurdity. Supposedly,

0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Roger Corman told Griffith when he was writing the script

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.680
<v Speaker 1>that he was like, I don't want any boring scenes

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>and people just talking. There's gotta be action or suspense

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>in every scene. And then the story goes that. Griffith

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 1>asked him, Okay, does it have to be about atomic radiation?

0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:26.839
<v Speaker 1>And Corman said yes. So this is the film where

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 1>the crabs have kind of human looking faces. Yeah, they've

0:39:29.360 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>got googly eyes. Yeah. And is this the one that

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you were telling me about where it's possible that Jack

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Nicholson played the crab he I think people have denied it,

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:41.000
<v Speaker 1>but other people have claimed it. So Jack Nicholson was

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>part of the Corman scene. I think he was helping

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 1>out on set with Corman movies in the fifties. And yes,

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:52.160
<v Speaker 1>some people have claimed that underneath the giant crab puppet

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in Attack of the Crab Monsters in some shots it's

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Nicholson under there, but other people have said it's not him,

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 1>so that this there's a question mark, though I don't.

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I hope we get to get to find out. Maybe

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.480
<v Speaker 1>that would be like a deathbed confession from Jack Nicholson

0:40:06.640 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>Hill tell the world that he was the crab. Those

0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>are my ankles under that crab. I was that crab man,

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:16.400
<v Speaker 1>can't you imagine? Then I get to fit that footage

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:21.520
<v Speaker 1>into the dedication at the Academy Awards. Oh, they're there

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>are hilarious stories about the behind the scenes puppet work

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>where they were trying to get the crab puppet to

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.560
<v Speaker 1>do what they wanted because there was like an underwater

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>scene where they were trying to feature it. But I

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>think it was made of fiberglass and stuff and it

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't sink. It was like two buoyant and they were

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.320
<v Speaker 1>weighing it down with stuff to try to make it sink,

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 1>and but it ended up exploding somehow, And so they're

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>filming this in the actual surf, right, uh might have

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it was in like an aquarium somewhere. They

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:51.799
<v Speaker 1>were trying to film in the surf. I can only

0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>imagine how awful that would have been. Like, trying to

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.680
<v Speaker 1>do anything in the surf other than just sort of

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:01.520
<v Speaker 1>retain your footing is is quite a challenge enough. There

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>are at least a few scenes that are actually shot

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 1>in the surf. There's one great one where there are

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 1>a few guys, you know, they're like these navy sailors

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 1>in a rowboat and they're just off the coast and

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 1>one guy falls in the water and they pull him

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>back out and he doesn't have a head. And then

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the scientists is like, I hope that men's

0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 1>death is not an omen of things to come. Well,

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>crab that would that big would have had considerable pinching

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 1>power that well, they do specify an attack of the

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 1>crab monsters that the crabs are supposed to be land crabs,

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>so maybe, I mean they look more just like blue

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 1>crabs or something. They have normal kind of sea crab

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:39.640
<v Speaker 1>or I don't know about blue crabs. They look like,

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, well, they look kind of like the red

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>the Christmas Island. It looks like the kind of crabs

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 1>you would eat. No, not so much like those. They

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:47.719
<v Speaker 1>look like the crabs that you would buy at the

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 1>grocery store. I don't know what those are called, and

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe their land maybe, But anyway, I suppose it could

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 1>be partially inspired by the kind of decapod crustacean we've

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>been discussing today. Maybe. Well, but and yet, you I

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think in any of these giant crab movies you

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:05.799
<v Speaker 1>see a giant land crab um that looks like a

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 1>giant hermit crab. It looks like the coconut crab, which

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 1>is our best example of a giant decapod. No, I

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:15.360
<v Speaker 1>don't think so. There's also there's a movie called Island

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Claws that is pretty good if you get a chance.

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 1>It's also a terrible giant crab b movie. But I

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.879
<v Speaker 1>also think in that one, it's just it looks more

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>like you know, dinner crabs. They were created by some

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:32.480
<v Speaker 1>scientific experiments performed by Barry Nelson. But you know, this

0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 1>makes me think though that maybe what we don't need

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 1>is more giant crab films in terms of just like huge, hulking,

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 1>truck sized crabs. But how about just like a dog

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 1>sized crab, you know, just just scale up a little

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>bit from the coconut crab and then give it, give

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>it to enhance speed. I think I feel like that's

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the kind of movie that audiences would really get behind.

0:42:53.640 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I agree, more giant crab movies please, Yeah, Or to

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 1>go back to the Christmas silent crabs, you know, streaming

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>hordes of tiny crabs that you can essentially make the

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 1>squirm movie of of crab films. Oh, that's sort of

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 1>what island clauses before there's a giant crab at the end.

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.920
<v Speaker 1>There's one part where guys like living in a bus.

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 1>He's just living in a bus and he suddenly there

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:23.520
<v Speaker 1>crabs everywhere and he goes ah, and then the crabs

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>turn his bus over. How they do that? This is

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:29.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of the sacrificial hobo character that shows up, and

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that is that guy. Yeah. That my

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>favorite example, of course being the original from or maybe

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:39.360
<v Speaker 1>not the original, but I feel like the prime example

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of the archetype the old man who pokes the meteoride

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>in the blob. Yeah, the old Jordi Verile mistake. All right, Well,

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>there you have it. We we got a little off

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 1>topic there at the end, just talking about giant crab cinema.

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 1>But this was a fun episode of the Coconut Crab.

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I originally thought would just be part of our Christmas

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.880
<v Speaker 1>of a single Christmas Island episode, but it turned out

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:05.439
<v Speaker 1>they were just far more interesting. There was too much

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>limpid oil in there, just too much limpid oil. We

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>just had to suck it all up. So uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoyed the episode. Again, if you've ever been

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 1>to Christmas Island or any or if you've been to

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 1>any island that has in this case, that has coconut

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