1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: You're gonna help me make it fly talk a magical 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: reindeer made the slave flying? And where did the reindeer 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: get their magic from? Roninanian recently repair shop open and 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: it says, hey, it seemed master Auto Technician Grand Old 5 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: sixteen ninety nine oil chain special. It's the equivalent of 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: taking a thoroughbred racehorse and sending him out to do 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Katy's parties. The Car Doctor. It looks like it's a 8 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: good quality component, but it's not right because it says 9 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: made in China on it. And now the problem is, 10 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: go sue China. Let me know who you're gonna talk to, 11 00:00:53,280 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, And that's and that's the issue. Jee. Welcome 12 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: to the radio home of Ron and Nia the Car Doctor, 13 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 14 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If air mechanics 15 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 16 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: call in the garage doors are open, but I am 17 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: here to take their calls at eight five five five six, 18 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: And now I walked through the Lincoln to key running. 19 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: It's very important to pay attention which way the universe 20 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: is pushing you when it comes to auto repair, because 21 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: you never know where you're going to end up. We 22 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: went out to dinner last night and we ended up 23 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: in two separate cars, and I was by myself, and 24 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: I've been to this dinner a thousand times here in 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: North Jersey, and for some reason, I got off at 26 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: the wrong exit. I don't know why. It was dark. 27 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: It was just a cold, dark night. I mean, there's 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: no other way to explain. It was one of those 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: nights where you know, have you ever been in a 30 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: car and you're driving and there's a fluidness as you 31 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: cut through the dark, You're just you're one with the car. 32 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: You're just kind of slicing through and every ten feet 33 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: you're seeing a new portion of the road. It's just 34 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: such a dark, dismal, bad weather night. And I and 35 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: I said, gee, why did I get up their? Usually 36 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: I take the highway and I go and something in 37 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: the back of my head said, keep going. I don't 38 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: know why. And I've learned to trust my inner guides. Right, 39 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: and I'm driving and I know where I'm gonna turn. 40 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go up. I'm gonna go up to the 41 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: first block and make a right, and then that'll take 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: me all the way down and I'll be good. And 43 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I've done that a thousand times, and well I missed 44 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: that turn. I just you know, whether it was the dark, 45 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: whether my mind was racing because I had my sit 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 1: my spidy sense was up, and I said, something's going 47 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: on here, like what are we doing this for? You know, 48 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: I I subscribe to that. You know, it's like Rip 49 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: was in the pond right You're you're moving the ripples 50 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: around like something's going to change as a result of this. 51 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: And I get to the next traffic light and I'm 52 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: slowing down to stop at the next light where I 53 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: can also make a writer go straight, and I'm in 54 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: the it's a it's a four lane road and I'm 55 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: in the center lane and there's a car in the 56 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: other center lane. And as I pull up the stop, 57 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I end up parking right next to this guy and 58 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: he's he's in the center lane, but he's he's stuck 59 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: the you know, the car's got the four way flashes on. 60 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: At first I thought it was the blinkers. I said, oh, 61 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: this guy is trying to make a left turn, and 62 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: then I realized he's got his four ways on. So 63 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I pull up next to him and I'm sitting next 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: to him, and he stopped and I said, gee, let 65 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: me just put the window down and talk to this guy. 66 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: And he stuck, It's Christmas, come on, let's you know, 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: piece on Earth and goodwill toward men, right, And I 68 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: put the window down and it's a husband and wife 69 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: and there kind of arguing a little bit because it's 70 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: her fault and it's his fault and Hi, you need 71 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: any help? No, what happened, I don't know. It just 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: stopped and I said, wow, it's a Honda, I said, 73 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: And I really wanted to tell him what Honda stood for, 74 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: but I figured that isn't the moment, but it did 75 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: cross my mind, I have to admit, and I said, boy, 76 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: that's so unusual. Hondas are usually pretty good and he said, yeah, 77 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: they are. And um, I think the way it transpired 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: because I was a little still trying to deal with 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: the darkness of the night. I remember what she said, 80 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: but my first comment was hit the key, you know, 81 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: I want to hear it. Crank crank it because I 82 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: want to listen to it. And before he does that, 83 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: she speaks up and she says, where's the car doctor? 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: When you need him, swear to God, I mean, just 85 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: out of the blue. I didn't know what to say. Well, 86 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: I knew what to do. I popped on the overhead 87 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: light of the suburban and there I wasn't all my brightness, 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: and I said, I'm right here, and the lady her 89 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: jaw just hit the ground. It was that. It was 90 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: that lone ranger moment, you know, Um, the husband hits 91 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: the key, it cranks fast. I go, you got a 92 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: broken timing belt? He says, yeah, I got triple A coming. 93 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: And the light changed and I pulled away and and 94 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: and you know, yes, I sat there and I said, 95 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: did that really just happened? And it did. The woman's like, 96 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: where's the car doctor when you need him? I don't exist. Oh, yes, 97 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: car doctor. And I just said wow. Um, And I 98 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: guess the point of all this is, you know, everybody 99 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: wants a Christmas car story. There's mine, okay. And that's 100 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: why I couldn't believe it. I called tom My engineer 101 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: five seconds after it happened. I said, you're not gonna 102 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: believe this. And I should almost turn around and go back, 103 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: but the flow of traffic was insane, and I couldn't 104 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: make a turn anywhere, and UM, I hope that this 105 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: lady's listening. I hope you got to wherever you were 106 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: going safely. And um, I'm sure it's a timing belt 107 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: that didn't crank at all. Well, it just spun too fast, 108 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: you know, the belt had to break a little four 109 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: cylinder CRV. But true story paramus New Jersey last night. 110 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: About must have been about seven pm in North Jersey. 111 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: Just the funniest thing. Where's the car doctor when you 112 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: need him? You can never find a good mechanic when 113 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: you want to Well, here, I am blank. I just 114 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: and that happens every once in a while. You know, 115 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: it's sometimes I think it is like George Bailly, right, 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: I really do have a wonderful life, and uh, you 117 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: just got to appreciate it sometimes. And it's just funny 118 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: and odd that had happened right here around Christmas. Hellong, 119 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: welcome Rodin in the car Doctor. True story happened last night. 120 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,239 Speaker 1: The car Doctor phone number today's eight zero is always. 121 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Steve Cook is going to be joining us down around 122 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. We sent out a couple 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: of his books last week. UM O b D two 124 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: Diagnostics Made Easy. We're gonna have Steve stop by. Steves 125 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: an instructor I believe out in Ohio if I'm not mistaken, 126 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be, you know, coming now, we'll talk 127 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: a little bit about you know what it's like teaching 128 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: the next generation of mechanic, will talk a little bit 129 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: about his book and just have some good old fun 130 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: with him. As this is our Christmas show, per se 131 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: and uh, you know we're all getting ready to enjoy 132 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: the holiday. We thought we'd share that with you. But 133 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: right now, let's kick the garage doors open. Let's go 134 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: to Mike in Florida sixty seven Chavell Supersport and some 135 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: issues with the way the engine sounds. Mike, Welcome to 136 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: the car, doctor, sir, how can I help? Thank you 137 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: for taking my call. Um, it's all original vehicle three 138 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: in a quarter or horsepower, motor runs very strong, and 139 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: two times within the last week it makes like a 140 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: wrapping noise like it's a stuck lifter and then it 141 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: goes away. Um, no idea what it is? Okay? So 142 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: so is it is it valve speed or is it 143 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: is it bottom end speed? If you know what I'm saying, 144 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: Can you can you differentiate between the two. Um, it 145 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: sounds like it's more towards the front of the motor, 146 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: on the top end of it. Okay, you know it 147 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: could be a lifter. It very well could be a lifter. Um. 148 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: Do you have mechanical oil pressure gage in this or 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: are you relying on the idiot light on the dish? 150 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: I don't remember what sixty seven? I have an opress gage. 151 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: Stay strong, it doesn't change at all. Okay, So you 152 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: know this this, this could be a lifter issue. Have 153 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: you looked at the oil to see do you see 154 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: any signs of metal fragments, anything, silver, anything? Look? You 155 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: know that was a suggestion of UM, a friend of mine, 156 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: and I did look and it looks fine. Okay, you 157 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: can try take take some oil out of the engine, 158 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, take a couple of drops, put it in 159 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: a dixie cup and put it in the put it 160 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: in the microwave, all right, and if the dixie if 161 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: the dixie cup sparks, there's metal fragments in the oil, 162 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: right because microwave microwaves don't like uh, microwaves don't like metal. Um, 163 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: And you may see something there. Now what's common, what 164 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: would not be uncommon would be obviously a lifter sticking 165 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, pull the intake and pop a 166 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: couple of lifters out see if anything is concave. But 167 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 1: the one that everybody misses obviously could be. And I 168 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: don't know what this sound is, so it's a little 169 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: difficult sound conversation, you know, Mike, But I would be aware. 170 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: Could we possibly have Is it timing chain banging against 171 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: the cover? All right? Especially since the front and when 172 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: the noise happens, you I'm sure you can reach down 173 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and grab the fuel pump, does it? It does? You know, 174 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: grab the fuel pump when it's quiet, grab the fuel 175 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: pump when it's happening. Is it a deeper funk fud, 176 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: change in tone, change in pitch emanating out of the 177 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: fuel pump area? Could the fuel pump push rod becausing 178 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: a problem? And we used to see that back in 179 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: the day. All right, it has it's a California vehicle 180 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: that has a smock patrol on it from from California, 181 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: which I haven't taken off, and at first I thought 182 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: it was that, but I don't think it's that at all. 183 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 1: It has an air pump. You're saying, yes, well you 184 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: should if you wanted to just temporarily, you could just 185 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: take that air take that belt off, and then run 186 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: a alternator belt without air pump, because that's probably alternator 187 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: air pump crank Yeah, okay, rights, and you could just 188 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: bypass the air pump temporarily and see if the noise 189 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: goes away if you think the air pump starting to 190 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: bind up, which wouldn't be unusual. You know, that's that's 191 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: always possible to noises are a you know, you have 192 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: to put yourself in the frame of mind of what 193 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: you're chasing. And that's why I say, is it valve speed? 194 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: You know, valve speed is different than crank speed. Crank 195 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: speed is twice. Valve speed is gonna be once in 196 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: terms of rotations. And you know, a valve tick is 197 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: a tic tick tick tick tick, whereas an engine knock 198 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: is I'm not gonna you know that kind of a thing. 199 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: It's it's and you know which I guess. I guess 200 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: it's more of a knock a m and you know 201 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: it's the the motor runs strong and it's done it twice. Um, 202 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: I drove it yesterday. Nothing put away. Just say nothing 203 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: happened at all? Right, do you have do you have 204 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: access to a boar scope. Maybe I don't, but my 205 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: friend probably does. Okay, maybe we can pull some spark 206 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: plugs out and just look to see what sort of 207 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: carbon deposits do we have on tops of the pistons. 208 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: You know, the problem with that car is it's and 209 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: it's a neat piece. I gotta tell you, three three 210 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: and a quarter Chevelle was just a neat car back 211 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: in the day. It's a neat it's it's even more 212 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: fun today, but it's it's designed to run in a 213 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: world of completely different gasoline. And you start to think 214 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: about deposits and and some of the other things that 215 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: can go right or wrong with it, and you just 216 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: have to be careful how you how you treat it. 217 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: You can't ignore it. You got to solve it. Yeah, 218 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: there's a place over here, there's a place where I 219 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: am hast non ethanol gas that I run it, and 220 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: it seems to like it right, Oh, it'll definitely like it. 221 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: It'll it'll, it'll, it'll suck that up like Dracula in 222 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: a pine of blood, you know. That's. Yeah, that's so, 223 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: it tends to suck it up real fast. Huh um. So, 224 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: but do those things and uh, you know, maybe maybe 225 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: you can capture the noise on a video recording and 226 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: put it up on our Facebook page, Dating the Car Doctor, 227 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: and I can listen to it there or send it 228 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: to me by way of a YouTube video or something, 229 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: and we could kind of listen to it and maybe 230 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: get you a better idea. Awesome. Well, you know, I 231 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: really appreciate your time and I love listening to your show. 232 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, and I'm glad I got to talk 233 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: to you. And we'll try those try those things, and 234 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you. Take good, thanks, thank you. I'm 235 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: running any of the Car Doctor. We'll be back right 236 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: after this for the best in car advice. Give Ron 237 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: a call eight five five five six zero nine nine 238 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: zero zero. Now back to Ron. Let's get over to 239 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: ed New Jersey. Oh six toyotasi or a scion. I 240 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: shouldn't call it a toyota a scion. I'm sorry to 241 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: the gods of Toyota. Um some questions about a P 242 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: zero four twenty and welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 243 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: How can I help hi? Ron? Ron, I got a 244 00:12:54,760 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: two thousand six scion X two hundred thousand my wait 245 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: for wait for just broken in Go ahead brother, all right, 246 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: P zero four twenty cat efficiency now at a hundred 247 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: and seventy thousand miles. After returning from a cross country trip, 248 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: the light I also, this was five six years ago. 249 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: I got a P zero four twenty. I added some chemicals, 250 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: some cat cleaning chemicals, and the lights been off for 251 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: at least six years. Came back on right before empty 252 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: for New Jersey inspection. Added chemicals again, drove the car 253 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: for two weeks past inspection. As I'm driving home, the 254 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: light comes back on. So my question is, uh, there's 255 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: a big price range on cats, So they go from 256 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty dollars to five hundred dollars, and 257 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: I've got estimates from shops over a thousand dollars to 258 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: fix it. I need to know what's what would be 259 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: the best uh cat to buy for this? Do you ever? 260 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: Do you ever have a hot dog? Yeah? Okay, so 261 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: you ever notice how you know sometimes a hot dog 262 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: is two bucks and sometimes a hot dog is five 263 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: bucks because it's a better hot dog, right, and the 264 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: two dollar hot dog might give you indigestion, whereas the 265 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: five dollar hot dog kind of doesn't. So so this 266 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: is about indigestion. This is about what what do you 267 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,479 Speaker 1: want to put up with? All right? That the differences 268 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: all catalytic converters like hot dogs. Hot dogs are FDA 269 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: inspected and approved, right they regulate how much bologna they 270 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: put in the hot dog, along with other things. Um, 271 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: But catalytic converters all have to meet ep A minimum 272 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: criteria and they all have to be warrantied for a 273 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: certain length of time. And you know, I just read 274 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: this and it it pushed something else out of my head. 275 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: But why do I think? It's three years? And I 276 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: forget how many thousands of miles? But there's a decent warranty. 277 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: There has to be a decent warranty replacement after mark cats. 278 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: But the issue becomes after that, all right, and what 279 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: will happen to the cat afterwards? Part of this question 280 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: has to encompass the answer of how long do you 281 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: plan to keep this car forever? Okay, see how I 282 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: knew that? All right? Figure you drove with the two ninety. 283 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: You're not getting rid of it anytime soon. So think 284 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: of it like this. It's an O six, all right, 285 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: it's fourteen years old in terms of model year, alright, 286 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: Because the twenties are out and they don't make scions anymore. 287 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it make sense, just just arguing the point on merit, 288 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't it make sense to buy the cat from Toyota 289 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: because it's the best hot dog you can buy, and 290 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: it's going to give you the least amount of indigestion, 291 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: and it's gonna in theory, it's in theory, it's gonna 292 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: last the longest if you're if you're really going to 293 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: drive this forever alright, which is a long time. Last 294 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: time I looked, all right, it's it would just it 295 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: would just make more sense price difference on cats, and uh, 296 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, I've seen Toyota get real greedy. We had 297 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: a camera in the shop a couple of three four 298 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: weeks ago. They wanted eight d for the front pipe 299 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: with the cat built into it. It was staggering, almost 300 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: fell off the chair. The customers still trying to be 301 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: revived in the middle of the park a lot. But 302 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: you know, I gave them all the options. We talked 303 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: after market, We talked, you know, Toyota. We went through 304 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: the whole list and they said, you know it's it's 305 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: it's double the money for the Toyota Cat. But it's 306 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: gonna last the longest, and I want to drive the 307 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: car forever. Okay, you know, so in theory it should 308 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: last another whatever he had, I think he had a 309 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: hundred eighty thousand miles on it. So a couple of 310 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: things to think about at two ninety. One of the 311 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: questions I always asked, or I would ask at the 312 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: shop is does the car use any oil? Does it 313 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: use any oil head? Okay, because obviously obviously oil old 314 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: consumption is going to shorten life of catalytic converter. The 315 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: the the other thing goes. Let's not assume because it's 316 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: a four twenty it's a bad cat. It probably is, 317 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: but other factors exhaust leaks. If there's an exhaust leak anywhere, 318 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: that can comprom that can compromise downstream O two censor value, 319 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: and that can affect it. Also, how does the thermostat 320 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: stack up on a scan tool? Was it every Was 321 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: it ever changed? I have seen a matter of fact, 322 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: I talked about it not too long ago. As little 323 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: as a seven degree temperature change in in in thermostat 324 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: off of spec spec a car running at one eight, 325 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: that car will never run the CAT monitor that car 326 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: may not heat the cat up enough to operate properly, 327 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: especially in super cold weather. That's a problem. So before 328 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: we go out and spend whatever money you're gonna spend 329 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: and buy the five dollar hot dog, I would tell 330 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: you get a diagnosis. Make sure they verified temperature of 331 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: the thermostat opera, you know, cool and temperature thermostat operation 332 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: is correct. Make sure there are no exhaust leaks. Make 333 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: sure that your two censor activity is good, it can 334 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: hit its peak, and then at that point, yeah, let's 335 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: put a cat in it. And also consider software updates, 336 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: just to make sure there's no refleshes. Hey, coming up next, 337 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: Steve cook O b D two diagnostics made easy everything 338 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: you wanted to know and maybe don't want to know. 339 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: Let's stick around. We'll be back right after this. Yeah, hey, 340 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: welcome back. You know, our next guest is proved positive 341 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: of something. I always say, you have to be so 342 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: smart to be a mechanic. You're smart enough to go 343 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: do almost anything else in life. And he's done that. 344 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: He's an instructor, he's an author, he's a hell of 345 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: a guy. I've met Steve. We've you act personally and 346 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: chewed over the same pile of grease talking about cars, 347 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: and it's a pleasure to have him here on the 348 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: show with us today. Steve Cook, how are you today, sir? 349 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: Alrighty are you good? Sir? Um? Qualify yourself, Steve? What 350 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: do you do for a living? I want, I want 351 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: everybody to hear this. Well, you know, give me my 352 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: background here a little bit. I started out in the 353 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: business and seventy eight out of a vocational school, okay, 354 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: and I went to work in a dealership from there, Um, 355 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I went ahead. I've worked at several independent shops, things 356 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: of that nature. I hold a a S E Master 357 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: and L one certification. Um. I've done some consulting work 358 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: and helped the National saying uh start an apprenticeship program, 359 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: and I've taught in a vocational school setting. Um uh 360 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: you know, basically things of that nature. So you've been 361 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: You've been in all four corners of this business and 362 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: then some yeah. Yeah, I forgot to mention I've been 363 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 1: a shop owner too, So I've been where you are. 364 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: Two Like, like I said, you're smart enough to do 365 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: what you're doing and then everything else, because that's what 366 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: it takes to be a good mechanic today, Uh, you know, 367 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how smart I am, but we do 368 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: our best. I don't know, brother, you know what, You're 369 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: smart enough to know your limitations and that's why you 370 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: write and read and you keep doing research. And that's 371 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: the best part of it, right, Um, talk to me 372 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: about the book. What was the inspiration for the book? 373 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: What created O B D two Diagnostics Made Easy? Well? Um, Well, 374 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: I got the idea from the book was when I 375 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: was up doing some work in Detroit for a car 376 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: manufacturer there, and I was fielding calls from different technicians 377 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: and field engineers, and they're on the questions that you 378 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: get from sometimes you about to fall out of your 379 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: chair and you think they should know this stuff, you know, 380 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: questions like yeah, I get questions like, for example, the 381 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: ands gotta misfire, what do I do? Or I'm on 382 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: my third cat I converter and still setting U P 383 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: zero four, you know those kind of things. So that 384 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: and then from observing other technicians and shops over the years, 385 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, the good, the baby ugly, and uh, observing 386 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: what they've done and just watching technicians and do it 387 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: yourself as in that just throw parts and cars, you know, 388 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: and that's why I got the idea for the book is, Hey, 389 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: we're not diagnosing the cars. They don't know how to 390 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: properly go about diagnosing a vehicle, And so that was 391 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: the whole inspiration for the book. Isn't that true, you know, Stephen? 392 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: In so many cases, whether it's O, B D two 393 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: or just car problems in general. I've I've got an 394 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: email in front of me from a listener this week. 395 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: His daughter's car was away at school. It's from Mark. 396 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: He's out in Nebraska, and he talks about a vibration 397 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: that happens between forty and fifty miles an hour. If 398 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: I recall this email correctly without going through the whole thing. 399 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: And he had it at a shop and they they 400 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: didn't know how to attack the problem. You know, he said, 401 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: they didn't really, you know, they and they kind of 402 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: kept blowing them off, and you know, he he wrote, nest. 403 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: He says, Ron, what do I have him do? And 404 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: I said, listen, get it up to speed as soon 405 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: as it starts vibrating, popping in neutral. Don't make sure 406 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: you don't hit reverse, but just you know, poppaty neutral coast, 407 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: does the vibration occur still if the vibration is still there. 408 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: Then it's not engine load related, it's vehicle dynamic speed related. 409 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: It's it's you know, it's it's it ends up. It 410 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: ended up being that he finally got into a shop 411 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: that would look at it, and he said, they did 412 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: exactly what you were going to do, and I didn't 413 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: even have to tell him to do it, which, you know, 414 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: guess what. There's because I'm not the only guy in 415 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: this industry. I can think I'm the lucky guy that 416 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: got on radio and it turned out to be a 417 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: bad center bearing How how hard was that? And and 418 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: the point becomes, you know what we don't We don't 419 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: know what we don't know. We know that for sure, 420 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: right I don't know what the answer to the problem 421 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: I have to I have to diagnose it. And diagnosis 422 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: is a requirement that takes place in chassis vibrations, break 423 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: noise charging systems, O B D two And it's it's 424 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: I've heard Steve the feedback. I had one fellow right 425 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: me this morning. I was reading the email. He said, 426 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: you can tell Steve Cook for me, and I'm paraphrasing 427 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: this from memory. He said, tell Steve Cook for me 428 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: that the book is a little difficult to read because 429 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: of the technical content, not the way it's written, but 430 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: just it's O. B D. Two. It's not you know 431 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: what it is, rocket science, right, uh, he said, tell 432 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 1: Steve Cook the way the book is written, it's it's 433 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: very technical and difficult to get through, he said. But 434 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: I got through the first hour of my time with 435 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: the book, and he said, I already learned three things 436 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: that I didn't realize and explained why my why my 437 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: freeze frame is different than my monitors, and different things 438 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: that he was looking for. And he got his answers, 439 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: and it it breaks it down, you know, and and listen, 440 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: I've I've read the book, Steve. I think you take 441 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: a very complex subject and make it simple. And that's 442 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: what these guys need out here today, because how many 443 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: cars do you see where the parts cannon exploded? Uh? 444 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know it looks like somebody throw up 445 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: parts under the hood of the car and it's still 446 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: not fixed. And look at it too, you go and 447 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: you they throw all these parts of the car trying 448 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: to fix it, and nine times out of ten they 449 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: wind up in You and I both noticed they wanted 450 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: causing more problems then if they would have taken it 451 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: to somebody and had them properly diagnosed to begin with, 452 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: You're still teaching the kids, Steve uh No, I've retired 453 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: from UM. Was this was my this this this past 454 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: year was it? UM. I do still go to all 455 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: of the instructors seminars and things of that nature, though 456 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 1: I still keep in touch with everybody. So do you 457 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: do you were the kids getting better towards the end? 458 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: Was it? Was? It just as difficult because there's gonna 459 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 1: be a short technicians in the next five years, like 460 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: this country hasn't seen. Well, it's actually it is getting 461 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: more difficult. And I'll tell you one of the reasons why. 462 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: One of the things that this last instructors seminar and 463 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: I went to we were talking we get someone from 464 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: CAP there, which is a is the Chrysler program to 465 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: bring technicians up, you know, through through the through the 466 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: colleges and what have you, and we were talking about 467 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: what it takes to get them in and stuff and 468 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: everyone they're pretty much agreed that part of the problem 469 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: with God is is the amount of time we get 470 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: to spend with these kids keeps getting shorter and shorter 471 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: and shorter. You know, I was down to an hour 472 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: and a half a day with my seniors. That's class 473 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: time and shop and like a little over two hours 474 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: with my junior class. So what are you gonna do 475 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: with the complexity of the automobiles today to get these 476 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: kids where they need to be? You know, it's it's very, 477 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: very difficult. There's all kinds of state testing and stuff 478 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: going on, and a bunch of other things that are 479 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: distracting these kids. When I went to school and I 480 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: was in a vocational program, I had one English class 481 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 1: my junior year and I had a government class my 482 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: senior year, and the rest of the time was spent 483 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: related to my technical field, which was automotive. Kid's gonna 484 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: become a mechanic today, Steve, He's got to go to 485 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: school and know what right, Let's go through the list 486 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: real quick in our last minute. He's got he's got 487 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: no electronics, he's got to know how to test it 488 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: right before that on, you got to know how to read, 489 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: comprehend right and do math. If you don't have those 490 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: basics down, the rest of it means nothing. And how 491 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: important is math today for a Mechanic's everything? Oh yeah, absolutely, 492 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: And you're taking, you're taking all kinds of measurements and stuff, 493 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: and you've got to be able to do the math. 494 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: People don't understand that. I I the gym. I go 495 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: to the lady that works cross the rig from me. 496 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: We talk. She's a math teacher at a high school 497 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: here in New Jersey, and she says, I can't get 498 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: the kids interested in math. She says, it's so it's 499 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: so difficult. I said, why don't you take him and 500 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: show him that movie Hidden Figures talking about the Space 501 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: program and the um the way the engineers did everything 502 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 1: on a slide rule on a calculator and uh, you know, 503 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: computered how we're gonna get to the moon and get 504 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: rockets into orbit, and it was all math and the 505 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: same thing with cars. It was it was it was 506 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: the same thing with cars. Uh you know, So it um, 507 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: it's gonna get it's gonna get more involved as time 508 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: goes by. I think modern technology is a two edge sort. 509 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of bid us in the but 510 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: a little bit because it's made it too easy for 511 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: people to get answers to questions now, where they don't 512 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: have to really dig in anything. They punch you punch 513 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: the number and your compete into your calculator. You get it. 514 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: You google on your cell phone, you get an answer. 515 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,239 Speaker 1: You know, you really don't have to dig much. So 516 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: critical thinking skills of tips have gone by the wayside, right, 517 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: And it's really tough, and it's it's it's a big 518 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: part of it. Hey, Steve, where can the listeners get 519 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 1: more information? Where's the book for sale? Uh? You can 520 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: get on Amazon and you can also go out to 521 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: eBay and get the book. And it's if they're looking 522 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: for it's O B D two diagnostics made easy, correct 523 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: perfect by Steve Cook. Is it Steve Cook? Is it 524 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: listed or Stephen? It's Christine or Steve Cook. But if 525 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: you if you Google search Steve Cook, you'll find everybody 526 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: but me. If you Google searching the title of the book, 527 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: you will be able to find it. That a way too. 528 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: But I've tried that. I tuye Google searching myself. It's 529 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 1: such a popular name. I guess I'm on page twenty 530 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand or something like that. You know, listen, 531 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: at least it made at least it made the list. Brother, 532 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: I guess I don't always look at the positive. Steve listen. 533 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for being and doing all that you do and 534 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: helping us during the course of the year and being 535 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: part of this radio show. We appreciate it, and we 536 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: just want to take a minute and just wish you 537 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: and yours merry Christmas in a safe, healthy, happy new year. Well, 538 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. In the same to all your listeners. 539 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: Thanks Stephen, you take good care. I'm running any of 540 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome back, 541 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: running into the Car Doctor. Let's get over to Garth 542 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: and Texas. Garth. Welcome to the Car Doctor. Sir. How 543 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: can I help Hell? Yes, sir, Oh yeah, we're here. 544 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: We're on it's radio. You have to talk, yes, sir, 545 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: what's going on? Yes? Oh, well, I have a two 546 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: thousand and eight Hondo Core and the Hondo Core uh 547 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: have a hundred quarter of thousand miles. The starter went 548 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: out on it, and I worked the mechanics shop years ago, 549 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: so I figured, I I fixed everything on my car, 550 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: so keep the starter out. And h was going to 551 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: put the other starter back in. And it looks like 552 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: the bolt hole for the large bolt that holds the 553 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: starter onto the engine block that it's been The threading 554 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: is wrong on it and needs to be ref read it. 555 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: So the question was, should I, you know, what is best? 556 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: Could I freeze the bolt in there because it looks 557 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: like the easy way, or should I take the harder 558 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: way and rethread it, you know, in case it ever 559 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: needs to be fixed again? How how would you freeze 560 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: the bolt in there? I don't understand the term. Oh, 561 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,719 Speaker 1: what I mean is before I've used a like liquid 562 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: steel and stuff. When I put a bolt in, it 563 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: pretty much puts it in place. So I use something. 564 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: So let's let's let's understand the question. Okay, you're asking 565 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: me about basically gluing in a bolt that holds the 566 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: starter in right versus rethreading the a bore hole. Because 567 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: the whole that it is, it looks like it's pretty 568 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: difficult to get you what degree of difficulty doesn't predicate 569 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: how we fixed the car, So so let's let's let's 570 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: look at it like this. This this liquid steel that 571 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: you're going to use. Do they give you a spec 572 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: what's the tensile strength, what's the clampload? How effective of 573 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of strength? Is it? Or are 574 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: we setting you up for a failure such that somewhere 575 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: on a dark, dusty Texas road at two o'clock in 576 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: the morning, when the car has to start, it won't 577 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: because the starter falls out of the car because the 578 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: bolt doesn't keep it. You know, it's it's it's it's 579 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: more than just a question of reliability, Garth. It's you know, 580 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: you've got to think in terms of you know, a 581 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: car is it gets to be a critical issue of safety, 582 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 1: all right. And and what you're asking me is, um, 583 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: because you don't know where you'll be. And I don't 584 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: mean to lecture, and I'm sorry if I do, but 585 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: you don't know where you'll be when that breaks. And 586 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, a situation like this, I always think back 587 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: to the Apollo eleven astronauts, right, I'm sure if NASA 588 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: had the choice of let's see, do we want to 589 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: blue the bolt in or do we want to make 590 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: sure that the lunar module or the the the you know, 591 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: the lunar module can lift off from the moon if 592 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: we want to fix it, right, because we want to 593 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: make sure it lifts off, right. Um, same thing with 594 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: you. You You want to make sure that starter is going 595 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: to start, and and the danger is, you know, if 596 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't start. Then what um and if you do 597 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: have to take the starter out, then what you know 598 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: if you had is this an automatic or a stick automatical? Yeah? 599 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: This is this is gonna be an automatic? Right? So 600 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: you you you you know, if you have to take 601 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: that starter out to do any transmission work, how would 602 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: you so? So that being said, you know, I don't understand. 603 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: Is the bolt that came out showed up and gnarly 604 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: or is it? You know? What is it? Is? It 605 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: happens the threading is good on the bolt. When you 606 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: start putting it into or start screwing it into place, 607 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: it like it's stuck like let's say the way in. Okay, 608 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: we't screw in all the way. So when you take 609 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: it out, there's there's obviously some metal residue now in 610 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: the grooves of the bulk. Okay, I'll tell you what. 611 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: Sit tight. Let me. I don't want to I don't 612 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: want to rush this. Stay right. We are at Garth. 613 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: Let me pull over, take a plause. We'll come right 614 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: back to it. I'll run a nating in the car. Doctor. 615 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: Don't go away a car doctor. We are back Garth. 616 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: You're still there, brother, right Garth? Okay, Okay, work with me. 617 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: We got two minutes, you're kiddo. So starters out there's 618 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: a four cylinder or six four cylinder. You have to 619 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: take the intake manifold, plan them off the front to 620 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: get the starter for access. Okay. So yeah, it's it's 621 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: in a tight spot and the bolt you want goes 622 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: straight up, or it goes back towards the driver's area. 623 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: It goes straight up its area back towards the driver's area. 624 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: Do you have the radiator out of the car yet? No? 625 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: I do not have the radiator to the press I 626 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: had moderately, you know, a moderate amount of room to work. Well, 627 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,719 Speaker 1: I I think to do the starter, you do, But 628 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: if if we're gonna do any tapping, it's nice if 629 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: you can get a straight shot. And in my mind, 630 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, if the radiator and the condensers out of 631 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: the way, you're looking right at it, right right. So 632 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: if I, um, I still have some I'm still looking 633 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: right at it, just at a different angle even with 634 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: the radiator. I mean that, uh, I mean it's still 635 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty much a straight shot. Right. The question 636 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: is you know it's an L shaped shot, because then 637 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: then I have the knock sensor in the way, and 638 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: I could remove that. That's easy to remove, right, you know, 639 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: the the question becomes and I think what happened to 640 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: you is it's a steel bolt and the steel bolt bonded. 641 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: Is this an aluminum block or a steel block? Car? 642 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 1: This is more of some sort of aluminium, right. I 643 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: think the steel bolt bonded to the aluminum and it 644 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,360 Speaker 1: tore the thread and it's embedded into the steel bolt. 645 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: If you look at the bolt, I bet the bolt 646 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: has a flat, shiny spot, almost like the leaf of 647 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: a tool of flower that it's just parts of the 648 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: bolt look different and the thread than some of the others. 649 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: And you've got to get in there and clean it. 650 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: You could possibly add a little extension to a tap, 651 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: but I would tell you get somebody over there to 652 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: look at it and tap it, don't patch it. I'm 653 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: not aiding the car doctor. If the mechanics aren't expensive, 654 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: they're priceless.