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Speaker 1: Hey, Family Secrets. Family, I've got to tell you I

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Speaker 1: am so excited about this new bonus series in which

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Speaker 1: I talked to some of the great minds of our

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Speaker 1: time about past episodes of Family Secrets. A lot of

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Speaker 1: you listened to my conversation with doctor Ghalite Atlas last week,

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Speaker 1: in which we discussed the themes and ideas that came

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Speaker 1: up in the season three episode Bubby and Zada and

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Speaker 1: Grandma and Pa. Galit and I dove into some weighty

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Speaker 1: subjects generational trauma, the meaning of dissociation, can it ever

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Speaker 1: be healthy? Do we all dissociate sometimes? And the emotional

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Speaker 1: inheritance of long held family secrets. Lots of you also

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Speaker 1: went back and listened to that twenty twenty episode. So

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Speaker 1: I want to let you know about next week's Great

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Speaker 1: Minds conversation, which will be with the brilliant doctor Mark Epstein,

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Speaker 1: writer and psychiatrist, author of my favorite books about the

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Speaker 1: interface of Buddhism and psychotherapy. Mark and I will be

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Speaker 1: talking about another episode from season three called What's Wrong

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Speaker 1: with Teddy, in which I interviewed David Kazinski, brother of

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Speaker 1: the unibomber Ted Kazinski. We'll be talking about the legacy

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Speaker 1: of family, secrets, shame, mental illness, and ultimately about forgiveness, compassion,

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Speaker 1: and the power of love over that of violence. If

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Speaker 1: you want to check out What's Wrong with Teddy in

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Speaker 1: advance of next week's deep Dive, you'll find it by

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Speaker 1: going back to our third season wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: And remember, we're hard at work on season nine, which

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Speaker 1: will drop in early November. Until then, we'll be offering

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Speaker 1: these great minds conversations every other week. I hope you

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Speaker 1: love them as much as I do.