WEBVTT - Warm Chicken Body 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:09.080 It's one eighteen am at your thirty sixth birthday party, 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:26.200 and you're listening to Night Call. Hello, and welcome to 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:31.000 Night Call, a podcast for your strange days and loonly nights. 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.000 I'm teslent here in l A and with me is 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.680 Molly Lambert and joining us. It's always in New York. 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:41.800 Emily Orshita, Hi, guys, we're separated by an entire country. Again. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.680 Although I was telling Molly when I said farewell for 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.360 the last time before I left, that maybe I would 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.680 just stay and you might not know the difference. You know, 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.160 you also maybe back in a week's right, No, not, 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.560 maybe I will be back. I will not. We do. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.320 We do have a ghost Mike set up for you today. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.760 We're looking right at it. Put some hair on it. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.440 I had a really fun adventure that I told you 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.679 guys about right before I left, on maybe the second 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:18.880 last day before I left. Um, And then I feel 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.280 like we all had stories that were somewhe what like 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.640 this from our our years spent in Los Angeles. Um, 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.120 but I am UM. I am a person who likes 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:32.920 to hike. Also shout out to Outside Magazine who shouted 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:37.920 us out recently in a post of recommendations. We love 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.240 to be recommended by people who like the outdoors because 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:45.600 we are stealth outdoor people ourselves, even though it might 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.120 not seem like that, not the outside. So it's true 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.440 we're indoor kids, but we also love we love the outdoors. 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:56.880 I like to look outdoors from indoors, like greenery I've seen, 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.480 you know. I love greenery, love trees. I like to 0:01:59.560 --> 0:02:02.400 sit outside. Yeah, you like to be out I do. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.480 It depends on the weather. I'm wearing gloves inside right now. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:12.160 Their fingerless gloves. I love a good um. But I was. 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:15.560 I did a hike. I had been feeling very very 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.160 um stifled by my schedule and not being able to hike, 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.839 even though the weather was beautiful in Los Angeles. After 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.600 the rain went away, it was like my favorite kind 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.000 of l a weather. UM. So I eventually did get 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.920 out snuck away to go do a hike at Runyon Canyon. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.400 I don't do Runyon Canyon a lot, and I didn't 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:36.120 do it a lot when I lived there. Um And 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.079 I feel like every other time I go to Runyon 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:44.160 something weird happens, like I get lost snakes and Runyon. Well, 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:46.679 I've run into snakes and Griffiths. I don't know that 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:48.600 I've ever run into a snake and Runyon now that 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:50.280 I think of it, I think I always start thinking 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.920 about pumas and Runyon for some reason, even though I 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.880 think there are more of those in Griffith Park. But 0:02:56.000 --> 0:03:01.840 I the other kind of pumas. Yeah, well, if we all, 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:03.639 if we all get together for a hike, then yes, 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:09.520 uh yeah. I always something about the dismount at Runyon 0:03:09.639 --> 0:03:13.560 Canyon tends to throw me for a loop. Something weird happens. 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.480 And this time I was trying to get back and 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.000 I was sort of pressed for time because I was 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:20.120 really squeezing in this hike because I needed to get 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:22.320 back home showers so I could go out for a meeting. 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.160 And I found myself kind of in this weird area 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:29.720 that didn't really seem like it was part of Runyon Canyon, 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.360 which I guess is the Wattles Garden, and I was like, oh, well, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.440 it's really close to curse On Street. I can just 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.160 like it looks like the path goes out, there's an 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.760 exit out onto the street there. I'd never been to 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.240 this part of the park before, and I don't know 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:42.920 how I got there because I don't think I was 0:03:42.920 --> 0:03:46.560 doing anything weird, but um, so I followed this path 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:48.920 that was on Google Maps, and then there was a 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.600 gate that was closed and locked like with a chain 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:55.920 link gate, and I, uh, I could see through it 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.200 went into this path and as far as I could 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:59.760 tell from the map, if I kept going, I would 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:04.000 get to the street. So I, um, I hopped the fence, 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.520 which I was telling you guys. I was very impressed 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.520 with myself for being able to do uh in my 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.720 old age. I did poke a hole in my running leggings, 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:17.320 I discovered late later, so the victory was a little 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.120 bit diminished. But then I got on the other side 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.039 and I found myself in this like empty, spooky, like 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:28.679 very opulent courtyard with fountains, uh, this kind of Spanish 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.719 style courtyard, and I could see down that there was 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.720 this mansion there, this completely empty mansion like and there 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:37.600 were just all these like kind of fallen leaves around, 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:41.880 and there was one groundskeeper there who was sweeping. I 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:46.440 was very careful to use my highest pitched, least threatening 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:51.120 voice to announce my presence. Tim But so it's kind 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.000 of like in Runyon Canyon. I looked at just like 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:59.600 Brunnian Canyon. The estate is called the Wattles Mansion, named 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:04.920 for Gurden Waddles bank or wealthy Omaha banker Gurdon Wattles. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.279 I had never heard of it before, but Tess had 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.600 not only heard of it, but been there. I had indeed, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:17.520 yere was picture it. I'm wedding scouting for a place 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:19.840 to have a wedding, and I think you can just 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:21.800 waltz in if you do it from the street. There's 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.320 a parking lot um and then you go in and 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.760 there are a bunch of like little seating areas. There's 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.560 a pond with some turtles. The park is open to 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:34.800 the public sometimes it I mean, I thought of always open. 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.600 The garden is like this public garden, and it was 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.280 you can't go into the mansion though it's owned by 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:44.000 the state. That is what's interesting. It's definitely like recently 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.960 park in that it's it says it's like an old 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:49.640 such an old mansion that it dates back to when 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.120 it was like a hacienda for a rich person from somewhere. 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.280 It was it was a winter home for this guy 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.480 from Omaha to switch guy from Omaha, which is crazy 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.880 to think ab out well. I one of my favorite 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:05.320 like not very like obscure facts, but fun facts about 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.560 Los Angeles is that Western Avenue was called Western Avenue 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.680 because it used to be like the westernmost street in 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:16.040 l A which now runs through Koreatown, which is basically 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.960 like right in the middle of what we consider the city, 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.200 but like everything everything to the west of that was 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.480 really considered like the hinter lands. Well, I saw they 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:29.039 have really great archival um photos of Franklin Village, which 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.640 is kind of just west of Western around like you know, 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:36.760 Bronson Canyon and beech Wood and stuff. And in the 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.880 thirties it was like, I mean a lot of it 0:06:39.920 --> 0:06:42.960 was like farm. In the twenties too, it was really 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:48.000 like country ish, Well was a farm like that was 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.320 another fun thing I discovered. And it went into like 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:54.600 major disrepair in the seventies and eighties and was used 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:57.479 as all right, they said it was like a punk hangar. Yeah, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.480 this is interesting because a lot of the stuff about 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.960 it sounds really similar to Tompkins Square Park, which later 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.599 in a later segment, but it was like it was 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.680 like an open place for people to congregate, and then 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.160 people congregated there, so they closed it. Well, that was 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.640 why I really when we were planning our wedding, we 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.480 were just it was like a very small wedding and 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.320 we were just looking for just a place that wouldn't 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.880 be like too far from everybody kind of lived in 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.360 the same vicinity. So we're like, oh, we'll just find 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.400 a place at Central and Waddles has so many rules 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:31.480 and I was like, oh, that's I don't want that 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.960 for the wedding. But I mean it makes sense, but 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.520 it's kind of a bummer considering that it was a 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.680 punk hanging and everything that it's like very strict. It 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.160 used to I think be a lot more sort of 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:48.160 atmospherically decrepit um. And I found it was a location 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:54.239 in Diana Ross music video from a song called Eaton Alive, 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:00.400 which sort of seem like her thriller. But you can 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.760 look it up. I'll put it on the Twitter. It's 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.840 a very low res movie or a video, but you 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.840 can kind of see that it wasn't like there were 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:10.320 like vines growing and stuff and all this. You know, 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.440 it was really kind of crumbling. Um. Yeah, and it 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:17.040 apparently has themed gardens. That's one of the first tourist 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:21.000 attractions with the themed gardens. Well, look who did her homework. 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:25.640 Look who read the Wikipedia read. I was inspired by 0:08:25.680 --> 0:08:30.000 Emily's trip into Wattles to finally go to brand Park 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:32.920 were I was. I didn't know this, yes, but I didn't. 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:35.559 It was late, so I didn't venture all the way 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:39.880 up to the haunted part because I'm screwl It's scary, 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.520 it is. But did you go, like, did you drive 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.719 through the big post around Resplendent Gate? Yeah? I did. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.680 It is a very resplendent gait. And uh. I took 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.120 my daughter up to the library, which is like it's 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:57.880 beautiful library, beautiful building. Yeah it's and there's like a 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:01.200 little tea room that it was those I did almost 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.880 get into like an altercation with someone though, who parked 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.560 taking up two spots in front of me. Glared at 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.360 each other, and then we had to push our kids 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.640 next to each other on the swings, which is something 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.920 that happens like it's not the first time that's happened 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:16.719 to me, but that was That was my hiking experience. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:19.880 Did you feel the spirits around here? Totally felt the spirits. 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.320 It was really beautiful, But it also got me thinking 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:26.600 about Glendale, how Glendale is like the suburb iist you know. Yeah, 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.120 that's such a different vibe, creepy because it's sort of 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.000 not in the middle of nowhere, but like in the 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:36.200 middle of like a really rich neighborhood in a way 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.079 like Vendale does. It's like on the cusp there. This 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.160 park is weird because it feels like it's like a 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.480 World's Fair type thing. And then I looked it up. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.920 It was designed by the architect who designed I think 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:52.760 the Chicago World's Fair, which is like the Yeah, yeah, um, 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.440 I wonder if it was the same landscape architect. Apparently 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.360 it was like it has it's very like Spanish fake 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.800 Spanish castle kind of looking. Apparently it was like so 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.320 people liked it so much that that's why everyone started 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.880 making their own houses fake Spanish Spanish revival. Yeah, it's 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:11.679 I mean, it's truly beautiful. There's something very kind of 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.760 threatening about that architecture though, it's just a lot of 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.600 like it's a little fascist, Yeah, a little bit fascist. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:23.760 But yeah, it was beautist exactly like a World's Fair exactly. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.800 Some of you may not know the Olympics were originally 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.720 just tagged onto the World's Fair. Um, would you guys 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.320 like to take a night call let's take a night 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:36.479 call speaking of plants and shrubbery. Hey, this is Gloria. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.959 I'm calling with the question, UM, so I just moved 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.560 across town. I moved from one part of Los Angeles 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:46.520 to another, and I had two plants suddenly die in 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.640 my kitchen, two points that I've had for years, and 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.040 nothing really changed except for the house that I'm in. Um. 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.719 And it reminded me of something that my mom used 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.320 to say when I was growing up, which is like, 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:02.160 when plants suddenly die, it means that they've sacrificed themselves, um, 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.480 to protect you from a spirit that's like, you know, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.440 not looking out for you. And I'm wondering, what do 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.720 you think about this? I asked a friend and she 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.240 said her mom has said the same thing too, and 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.320 I mean both of her mom's are Latino, Like it 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:18.320 might be a thing. I googled it and I can't 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:21.319 really find anything. Uh So, what do you think can 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:26.400 plants see ghosts? I loved this. This is a great 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:31.800 call and a great question. Um. I don't know. I 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.760 I have such bad luck with plants other than like 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.640 a few real dummy proof plants, that maybe I've just 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.120 been surrounded by ghosts this entire time, and I had 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:45.280 no idea. I had never heard of this idea before. 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.720 But now that I have, it's all I want to 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.040 believe forever. Now I have several things to say. I've 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.760 been sitting here being really stewing on it. So I 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.040 I had not heard of this previously, But I I 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.720 love plants. I have like maybe two many plants, and 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:06.120 there have been several times when plants that had been 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.000 thriving and doing well. I think twice it was jasmine. 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.600 And actually we moved so we moved into the house 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.880 that we're in now about six years ago and there 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:17.680 was like basically like a hedge of jasmine. Um and 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.480 we have the same like we have gardeners come once 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.680 a week. They we they kind of you know, had 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.320 worked for I think the previous two families. They've been 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.720 there forever. We hadn't changed the watering schedule, we hadn't 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:32.760 changed anything. And there was like this period of time 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.959 I think I've talked about on this podcast before where 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:37.720 I felt like maybe there was a curse placed on 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.640 me and my family, not like a serious curse, but 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:43.480 a light curse, but a lot of things were going 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:48.000 wrong and in the middle of this period, the entire 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:53.120 hedge of jasmine plants literally overnight died, to the point 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.400 when I was like, did someone like bleach them or something? 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.400 And we have the gardeners. They hadn't done anything. Differently 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.719 my kids. I'm always watching my kids when they're in 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:04.280 the yard. They hadn't dumped anything on them. And it 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:09.040 was seriously spooky. And after that things got a little 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:14.280 bit better, but it was weird so sacrifice, but until 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.600 I was just like, well, it's another thing that went 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.959 wrong in a series of a lot of like little 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.720 things going wrong, but it may have ended the curse. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.199 And then I also had an orchid that I had 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.000 I think I had gotten right when I moved to 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:32.640 l A. And I had another like super super bad 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:38.000 year basically like two thousand nine to like MI and 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.440 I had, and this orchid had been doing super well, 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.880 and like it would orchids kind of go dormant and 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.080 then they come back. But again it was like and 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:47.760 that took a little longer. It was like, over the 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.080 course of maybe four days, it had always been in 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.520 the same place, it was getting the same light, same watering. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.440 It just like turned brittle and it was like it 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:01.079 had been like, you know that, I think it's saw goes. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.319 So I put on Twitter after we heard this call 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:08.559 a a pole asking if when a plant dies suddenly, 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.840 if it maybe was because it saw a ghost or 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:15.280 not due to ghosts. Forty percent said because it saw 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.960 a ghost. Now that was the losing option, but by 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:24.360 such a small margin. I honestly believe I believe this. Yeah, 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.400 a hundred percent believe that this is a true thing. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:31.920 I like the phrasing of not do to go. Wait, 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:33.880 I need to find your poll here. When did you 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:35.920 put it up? Is it is it done? Is it closed? 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.760 The poll has been closed. You can run another pole 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.680 and that call though now that people have there were 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.080 three hundred and twenty four votes guys, and it was 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.040 like a really it was a tight race. But I 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.960 was like, it's true that when a plant. I find that, 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:52.000 like for house plants, the biggest factor in whether or 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.400 not they survive is light. So if you moved to 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.120 in your house, you're probably getting a different light source. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.320 Even if obviously you were like, oh, the kitchen is 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:01.720 a good place for this plant, maybe in your new place, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.600 the kitchen is not a good place for the plant. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:07.440 But usually they'll give you signs that something that they're 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:11.160 not liking where they are and instead of just like 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:15.960 dropping dead. If you have any stories like this, listeners, 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:19.680 would you please to four oh four six night or 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.560 Nightcall podcast at Gmail because this is like, this is 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:25.400 my new beat. Guys. Yeah, let's reiterate that not all 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.240 plant death is necessarily due to seeing ghosts, because I 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:33.720 don't want anyone to most attribute plants failure some of 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.480 us due to the planet dying. But maybe that's the 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:41.960 biggest ghost of all. Maybe the ghost. Maybe he's always there, 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.520 it's like those sci fi movies. Or the ghost is 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:54.800 just like a pollen. Uh, speaking of sudden deaths, we 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.080 all watched the hottest show on Netflix right now as 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.200 far as I can tell. Um. I had to wait 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.520 until I got back and then I had my recuperation 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.800 day from traveling and watched six out of eight episodes 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:12.320 of Russian Doll, the news show from Leslie Headland and 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:17.720 Amy Poehler and Who's the Third Personal Natasha Leone. We Yeah, 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.320 so I watched six out of eight episodes. It is 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.880 about a woman who mysteriously finds herself dying over and 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.560 over and over again, and especially The first couple episodes 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:30.720 are really about that, really about all the crazy accidental 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:36.120 way she dies, and I had a crazy nightmares about 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.400 getting hit by cars over and over and over again. 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.160 It's colored my reception of the show somewhat, and maybe 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:44.960 it will be a while till i've bench something again. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:47.240 But I kind of dig it. I still have one. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.960 I have one more episode to watch. I didn't finish it. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.000 Finish it. You also had a tweet where you said 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.960 that you've been hit by a car a few times. Oh, yeah, 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.000 a few times. I think we've talked about that. How 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.000 many times have you been hit by a car? Three times? 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:04.160 That horrible? Yeah, all all on my body. So not 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.199 seeing that is different for you. Yeah, it's kind of 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.240 insane that I like to drive as much as I do, 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:14.840 because I am actually really terrified of cars, probably in 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.480 a comparable way to you guys talking about being nervous 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.159 about flying. That's how I feel about driving. Cars are 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.560 scary to people. Should be more scared of cars. Car. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.560 You can die from a car some yeah, easily. I've 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:27.920 been in two car crashes where I'm in the car, 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:34.800 and I've been in three accidents where cars hit my body. Uh, 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:39.240 did you guys know not the same but uh, Ariana 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.240 Grande was hit by a hockey puck twice as a child. Really, yeah, 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.480 I've heard this weird fact. She just posted a story 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.199 about it on her Instagram. That's a picture of her 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.800 as a child riding the zamboni and it's like, Ariana 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.840 Grande boutera like the little girl who was hit by 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:59.640 the hockey puck at the Florida Panthers game twice. It's 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.000 fun and what like that can really change your whole 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.640 I just feel like that's such a good origins. Yeah, totally, 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:13.600 and then she could sing like from that point, um, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:17.240 but yeah, Russian doll. How how much did you guys 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.439 watch of it? I got through four six, okay, so 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:22.040 none of us have made it to the end yet. 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:24.800 I find it in a way, it's a really good 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:27.359 show to binge because obviously it's kind of a play 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.920 on the fact that you're binging it, um. But it 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.680 also it's not as like light of a show as 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.320 you initially think it is. I mean, I didn't give 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.000 me nightmares, but eventually I felt like I needed to 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:44.639 like take a breather. The emotional intensity is played both 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.640 for laughs. And also it's like it just is intense. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:55.119 It's so dark. I love Leslie Headland speaking. Sure, we all, 0:18:55.200 --> 0:19:00.719 we all love Leslian It's cool. It's very dark and funny. 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:06.760 And Natasha Leone also special shout out to Greta Lee, 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:11.320 who went to high school with and who was She 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:13.679 was a triple threat in high school. She was an 0:19:13.600 --> 0:19:18.840 amazing singer, dancer, and actor. She was so well cast 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:22.800 in this She plays Maxine. Okay, she's so good. Yeah, 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.760 he's so good, very good. The casting in this show 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.439 is fantastic. Everybody in the show was great, all the 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:34.200 character people. I really like the guar who plays Alan too. 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:38.760 Yeah that's who is it, Charlie Barnett. Everybody likes him. Yeah, 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:44.960 he's great. I did think that the ex John who's 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.480 played by yule Vaska, who said he was like Chris 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.040 Nottham season one of Law and Order, which is exactly right. 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:52.359 He gave me the diet yeah exactly. I was like, 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:57.120 this is the diet code, it's the trench code general 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.840 New York, New York eighties. So the show is the 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.959 New Yorkist show. Yes, yeah, it's I think it's like 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:07.399 so beautifully shot in all the outdoor kind of street 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:09.800 scenes because it's all a lot of takes place at night, 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:12.200 because that's kind of where she keeps getting dumped every 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.600 time she has to restart a cycle. So it's all 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.760 kind of on this Sunday night in New York, and 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:23.560 it's very atmospheric and makes me appreciate it's recognizable, but 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.800 it still feels kind of heightened in a way. Yeah, 0:20:26.600 --> 0:20:30.439 it really reminded me of After Hours totally. Obviously a 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.440 super high compliment. And one of the things that I 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.000 hear them talking about a lot of the press far 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:36.840 is just how they were, like, how come there's no 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:42.040 like seventies movies about just like broads. Yeah, just really 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:46.440 self destructive ladies out on the town, out on the town. 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:50.639 And Natasha Leone obviously is like somebody who was a 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:54.679 beloved child actor who then had a rough time and 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:56.959 was a junkie. I don't know if that comes into 0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.399 play directly in the show, but it obviously seems like 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.320 that's one of the things the show is a metaphor for. 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:04.840 But I was looking at up because there was that thing. 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:07.439 I don't know if you guys remember this, but Michael 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:11.640 Rappaport was her landlord once and read this horrible op 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:15.240 ed from magazine. It was about it was brutal. I 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.440 remember this. It was awful. It was like he was 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.120 her landlord and he was like, she's a terrible tenant 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.560 because she's like a junk It was just like shaming 0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.200 her for being a junkie. And it was really awful, horrible. 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:29.199 And then she did almost die. She had like her 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:33.240 lungs collapsed or something really intense, and so that all happened. 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:37.120 We're talking about I just want to make And then 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:39.600 I looked up I looked up her backstory also, and 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.200 it was like she was basically her parents were Orthodox, 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.480 which is interesting because there's some stuff about that some 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:48.040 Orthodox people in the show, and that she was basically 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:52.040 like liberated from her family by the age of sixteen. Yeah, 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:54.320 she was very much like a self made person I think, 0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:59.000 who was like, you know, got into show business. Um. 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:03.840 And I found I found this delightful. Yeah, it was 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.520 really it's really good. I also I had just watched 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:08.480 Can You Ever Forgive Me? And I was like, I 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:13.080 love kind of taking like taking the lens of like 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.119 what's charming about New York and putting kind of like 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:19.520 grabbing it and giving it to like bitchy complicated ladies. Yes, 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.720 I love it because that's like they're very of a piece, 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:26.920 these two characters exactly. Yeah. And so I feel like 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:28.640 I've said this on the show before, but I really 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.199 enjoyed the last o G recently. I was like a 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.800 New York show that made me be like, oh New York, 0:22:34.000 --> 0:22:37.200 Like what a wonderful place, but so lovely and atmospheric, 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.560 and just like shows that do the thing people like 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.800 from Wy Allen movies of people like strolling along having 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.080