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Speaker 1: What's happened everybody, and welcome into a Wednesday edition of

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access from the Texans Radio studio John Harris

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Speaker 1: alongside the Voice of the Texans Mark vandermir fresh off

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Speaker 1: of our trip to Momentum BMW, want to thank everybody

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Speaker 1: who showed up. It was It was awesome. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know quite what to think. I never been to be

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Speaker 1: Momentum BMW. Walked in, saw the fans there. That was

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Speaker 1: really cool. I appreciate nd for coming by. That was fun.

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Speaker 1: That was a great hour radio. So sorry you missed it.

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Speaker 1: But when we're out and about, you know, you got

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Speaker 1: to you gotta be That was fun.

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 3: We are efforting, as they used to say in ESPN Land,

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Speaker 3: or maybe Dan Patrick just said itself, efforting to do

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Speaker 3: these shows, these types of shows on the road more.

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Speaker 4: We haven't been on the road really.

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Speaker 3: Texans Radio six PM, Sports Radio six ten, haven't been

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Speaker 3: on the road really since pre COVID just here and there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but we're efforting to make it more frequent.

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Speaker 1: Just letting you know, it's fun and you get out

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Speaker 1: there and you hang with us, and you would have

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Speaker 1: got a chance to hang with me at Mark and

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Speaker 1: of course with nd Clue, you would not. I've had

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Speaker 1: a chance to hang with Tank Dell. He was not there,

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Speaker 1: but he's right here. Mark and I had a chance

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Speaker 1: to catch up with the Houston Texans and former Houston

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Speaker 1: Cougar wide receiver Tank Dell.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, Tank. We've seen you out about town.

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Speaker 3: I've seen you a lot of places. How's the off

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Speaker 3: season been for you so far?

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, Yes, sir, it's been a blessing. You know,

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Speaker 5: just going to experience the basketball games. And you know,

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Speaker 5: at first I was out there, I wasn't. I was

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Speaker 5: always you know, trying to get back right, you know,

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Speaker 5: rehab every day and things like that. But you know,

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Speaker 5: on like the weekends and things, you know, go to

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Speaker 5: the basketball games. Me and CJ hangout. You know, we

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Speaker 5: took a little trip to Turks. You know, we've just

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Speaker 5: been having fun. So it's been a great offseason.

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Speaker 4: Tank.

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Speaker 1: Wherever you go in Houston, it feels like, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to use the word could hero, that's not the

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Speaker 1: right word to you, but people love seeing you out

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know that I've ever seen a Texas

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Speaker 1: player like when you're out and about, like people just

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Speaker 1: want to piece you you sense that kind of same thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I feel the love. Man, That's that's something

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Speaker 5: I always wanted, you know, when I first stepped foot

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Speaker 5: in Houston, you know, even when I was at uh

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Speaker 5: just to feel the love from you know, the fans,

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Speaker 5: I don't really call them fans, but like the supporters

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Speaker 5: of the community, the supporters of Houston, the football team,

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Speaker 5: you know, the Texas and uh So it's just been great,

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Speaker 5: you know, staying in the city and then going places,

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Speaker 5: go to the grocery store and you just see fans

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Speaker 5: like wanting to take a picture, you know, and I

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Speaker 5: go out and take my time and try to take

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Speaker 5: pictures with everybody that's there. So it's been a great ride.

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Speaker 2: Tank.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to the football stuff, the really important

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Speaker 3: stuff coogs in the NCAA tournament and it blows my

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Speaker 3: mind the year they've had number one for a big

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Speaker 2: How do you see it in their future in the tournament?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like they're gonna go far, you know,

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Speaker 5: I feel like they're gonna win it. All the defense

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Speaker 5: they have, you know, coach Sampson put together. Man, they hungry,

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Speaker 5: you know, they're all over the place. You know, I

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Speaker 5: saw him play today. They was playing I forget who

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Speaker 5: they was, OTSU TCU. They were playing TCU today and

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Speaker 5: like me and my friend was talking, man, they were

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Speaker 5: swarming like like coach demikose Man. They were swarming on

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Speaker 5: defense all over the place. You know, they were losing

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Speaker 5: the rebound, but they were still there the whole time

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Speaker 5: playing defense. Man. So you know, defense win championships to me. So,

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Speaker 5: you know, Coach Simpson min set and a great great

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Speaker 5: lookout for the defense and making them, you know, go

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Speaker 5: play hard and play the U eight style basketball tank.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you something that somebody told me.

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Speaker 1: It was before your first game at University Houston. You

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Speaker 1: remember your first game of the University of Houston.

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 1: It was against It was against Tulane. It was against Tulane.

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Speaker 1: Who did you play the Energy Stadium?

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Speaker 5: Oh are you talking about on my my first game

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Speaker 5: or this my second?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your second year played Energy Stadium? Right, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: played Texas Tech.

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Speaker 4: Yes. I was standing talking to your head coach.

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Speaker 1: I've known Dan Holerson for a long time and he

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Speaker 1: pointed at you and you had just you were doing

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Speaker 1: like pat and go and you like came by me,

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Speaker 1: and he goes, that's the most explosive guy I've ever coached.

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Speaker 4: And I went, huh, okay, we'll see.

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Speaker 1: First series you ended up catching like a post route

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Speaker 1: down the middle of the field for a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I was staying at the end zone.

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Speaker 4: You how I ran by me?

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Speaker 1: I dang okay, Nathaniel dal he had such confidence in you.

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Speaker 1: What was it about your University Houston experience that got

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Speaker 1: you to where you are today? What and how did

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Speaker 1: become an NFL player?

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Speaker 5: It was crazy. I'll say, first off, shouts out to

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Speaker 5: coach Danna, Coach Hogerson, for sure, I love him. He

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Speaker 5: took me in under his wings. I say, shouts out

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Speaker 5: to coach Tyrone Carrier because he was my receiver coach

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Speaker 5: was great, you know, just coming from where I came

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Speaker 5: from and doing what I had to do to get there.

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Speaker 5: And then once I got there, they using me as

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Speaker 5: they using like my full potential outside receiver slide receiver.

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Speaker 5: They lined me up on the left side of the ball, backfield,

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Speaker 5: not only just like you know, trying to give me

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Speaker 5: jack sweeps because I'm quick and fast and things like that.

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Speaker 5: Like I was, I was able to show people that

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Speaker 5: I can run routes and create separation to get open.

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Speaker 5: And the coach hoguson like once he noticed that. I say,

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Speaker 5: like my second year, going into my second year, like

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Speaker 5: right before the spring, I text coach Hogason a long paragraph,

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Speaker 5: I think I had like four hundred some yards. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: all it's time to turn it up a notch. So

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Speaker 5: let me just show coach Holgas and ham feeling. And

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Speaker 5: it was all love with respect. I was just telling him, like, coach,

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Speaker 5: you can move me around. I can get open. You

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Speaker 5: the team. And once I text him that, man like

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Speaker 5: coming into that spring, he told me, he came up

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Speaker 5: to me like he can he can vouch for this.

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Speaker 5: He came up to me, he was like, you're gonna

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Speaker 5: be our number one receiver this year? Are you ready

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Speaker 5: for that pressure? And I was like, yeah, I'm ready.

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Speaker 5: And then like going to the spring, Man, I had

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Speaker 5: a great spring. Me and all my other receivers, my teammates,

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Speaker 5: we all had a great screen, but you know, I

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Speaker 5: And then going into that season, I feel like I

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Speaker 5: went in and crushed the season also, And after that

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Speaker 5: it's just been it's been a great ride.

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Speaker 2: Tank, y'all with us.

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Speaker 6: Tank.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna sound ridiculously simple, but what is the biggest

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Speaker 3: difference or some of the big differences to you playing

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Speaker 3: on the NFL stage, Because it looks a lot like

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Speaker 3: it did in college for you, You're running by guys, you're

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Speaker 3: making huge plays, you're running free.

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Speaker 2: What's different about it?

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't say, like football is the same to me

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Speaker 5: no matter who I'm out there playing, because I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: go hard every place, So no matter who I'm out

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Speaker 5: there playing, football is the same. So I say the

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Speaker 5: biggest difference was getting adjusted to the playbook, if anything,

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Speaker 5: because the NFL playbook, man, I'm talking about so many

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Speaker 5: words getting thrown at you and then you could can

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Speaker 5: to another place. So it's two plays at once, and

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Speaker 5: you have to remember and you have to do your job.

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Speaker 5: Like your professional athlete, You're getting paid to do your job,

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Speaker 5: so you got to make sure you're doing your job.

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Speaker 5: So the playbook, what's the biggest adjustment for me. But

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Speaker 5: once I got adjusted to it, I was able to

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Speaker 5: go out there and play fast because I can say

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Speaker 5: when I first got there, the playbook was like Spanish

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Speaker 5: to me. I didn't know nothing. I didn't know anything,

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Speaker 5: so I was like kind of playing slow second guests

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Speaker 5: and I just knew everything. I just knew where to be,

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Speaker 5: And once I could play fast, you know, I just

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Speaker 2: So it was good.

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Speaker 6: Tank.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine when you're out and about, there a

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Speaker 1: lot of people that want to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: a lot of different things. I would imagine the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay game comes up, you guys take the field. There's

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Speaker 1: forty six seconds left, you got two timeouts, and then

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Speaker 1: you go down and you make the catch on the

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Speaker 1: I'll just ask very simply, what was that like for

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Speaker 1: you to have such a moment like that.

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Speaker 5: First off, all glory to God, you know that was

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Speaker 5: it was all God. I said the same thing after

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Speaker 5: the game, and it was all God, man, that's the

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Speaker 5: play that we just threw win that game. Also, and

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Speaker 5: what the touchdown was?

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Speaker 4: Just to play you through in that game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, coach Coach Slow called it on the sideline and

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Speaker 5: we just went out there. You know, I got CJ

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Speaker 5: amazing competitor, and I knew he wanted to win as

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Speaker 5: bad as everybody else, and he just know what to do.

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Speaker 5: And he's he's so calm under pressure, Like in those moments,

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Speaker 5: don't he don't tense, So if he don't fold, none

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Speaker 5: of that. He's just ready to go out there and

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Speaker 5: execute and do his job. So you know, once he

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Speaker 5: called the play, I just knew I had to get

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Speaker 5: open by any means, and I deal with my job

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Speaker 5: and CJ threw the ball right on. No money, I

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Speaker 5: didn't break scride. I didn't have to do anything after

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Speaker 5: he just threw the ball, put my hands up, caught

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Speaker 5: the ball, and that was an amazing feeling to have

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Speaker 5: for the fans and for the team.

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Speaker 2: So it was amazing. One more for your tag.

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Speaker 3: I know you got to be itcher to get out

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Speaker 3: there when off season conditioning starts.

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Speaker 2: OTA is all of it. How you feeling?

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Speaker 5: I feel great? You know, I train the staff been

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Speaker 5: doing their job, you know, from the moment I got hurt,

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Speaker 2: Work, all right, Tank, thanks a lot for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Good luck, I Sair, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say Mark, I love Tank Dell being here

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Speaker 4: That's where you see him.

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Speaker 1: He's just the one that everybody gravitates towards.

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Speaker 4: It's awesome to see with Tank Dell.

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Speaker 3: no small thing in addition to everything else that's happened.

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Speaker 3: it's really too bad. He got hurt against Denver, but

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Speaker 2: Baby.

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Speaker 3: Can't wait to see him on the field this year,

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Speaker 4: You know. Look, they're not done yet.

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you this before you get anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: I think amongst the group, if that's what essentially you

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Speaker 1: in See, this is the thing. I don't know what's

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's gonna happen. I started looking at

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Speaker 4: Like, that's a dude. That's a dude. Holy that whoa

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Speaker 4: whoa Holy smokes Like it's going to continue.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be receiver groups banged, And I wonder how

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Speaker 3: It is, and I think everybody's got a question, and

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Speaker 3: get another one thousand yard type season out of him

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Speaker 3: with health. I would assume, yes, Tank Dell, with a

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Speaker 3: of impact would that have? Noah Brown, same thing. Health

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Speaker 3: Can he get to the form that you were envisioning

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Speaker 3: I'll put Dalton Schultz in the group pass catcher. Hey,

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 3: And you know what else? I like Joe Mixon. You

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Speaker 4: That's awesome.

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Speaker 3: If you get everybody healthy for the most part, with

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Speaker 1: There's no question you get John Metchi two years removed

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Speaker 1: you could very well run it back. I do think

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I said last night, there are a few things that

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Speaker 4: Still blowing up.

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Speaker 1: It's still blowing up. And I don't really like to

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: But one thing that the three of us, you, me

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Speaker 1: We all have really strong feelings about particular rules that

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Speaker 4: By both teams, like, okay, whatever, we'll see that one.

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Speaker 1: This one amends to include a ruling of a passer

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Speaker 4: But now allowed to tackle the quarterback without the ball. No,

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Speaker 1: I think the biggest one here is that the Competition

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Speaker 1: Defensive player is got him around the waist and then

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Speaker 4: This I mean you get ball carries down. However you

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Speaker 1: Can't use a face mask, you can't lower your head,

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Speaker 1: But there's been a lot of talk about this hip

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Speaker 3: Who knows how long it is, right, you've got the ball,

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Speaker 3: you're running downfield, so it could be five yards yards

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Speaker 3: This just in breaking news. But I got to think

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Speaker 4: You know it is.

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Speaker 3: Guys are bigger, stronger, faster than ever, right, so how

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Speaker 4: Now, especially with the rules the way they are.

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Speaker 4: The same time, that's a hip drop tackle.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're trying to get You're just getting your

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Speaker 4: Do about it?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, are we going to become flag football eventually?

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: Guy goes in motion, He's got a running start, and

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Speaker 4: End and he goes low. He goes at his knees.

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Speaker 1: The proposal is that it amends the crackback prohibition to

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Speaker 4: You got to take them on.

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Speaker 1: You got to take them on a pie, and that

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Speaker 1: Well, DEFENSI players are like, well, I can't hit, drop

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Speaker 1: good rule.

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Speaker 3: It's ult to prevent injuries. Yes, they're trying to make

441
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Speaker 3: the game safer, and I get that. Everybody agrees that

442
00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,120
Speaker 3: it sucks when your favorite player is out or any

443
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Speaker 3: player really, because you need all the help you can get.

444
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Speaker 3: So I want to see what it looks like. Don't

445
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Speaker 3: we all want to see.

446
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Speaker 4: What it looks like.

447
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Speaker 3: I think it's hard for the games to be officiated, Yes,

448
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Speaker 3: very much.

449
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Speaker 6: So.

450
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Speaker 3: I think being an official any sport is so it's brutal.

451
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:40,960
Speaker 3: I don't even know how you call balls and strikes. Really,

452
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Speaker 3: it's so close, you know, And then we get the

453
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Speaker 3: little box on the screen. They don't have the benefit

454
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Speaker 3: of that exactly. Well, the right behind home plate, they

455
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Speaker 3: should be able to see it. Yeah, it's different on

456
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Speaker 3: every guy, and it's tough sometimes, and you're calling all

457
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Speaker 3: those pitches. Yeah, all night long, basketball ridiculously charge like,

458
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Speaker 3: oh was he touched or not.

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Speaker 5: Shot?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I grew up in a coaching household, so I was

462
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Speaker 1: not coach to hate the refs, but I have this

463
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Speaker 1: kind of hate love relationship with Yeah, to be very skeptical.

464
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Speaker 1: But uh, that one, that one I really like. Now Again,

465
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Speaker 1: I used to be a former defensive player, so I

466
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Speaker 1: like seeing the defense kind of went out. Here's the

467
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Speaker 1: last one that at least came for the competition committee.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about these a little bit more throughout the

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Speaker 1: week for one year only. Remember when we last said that.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the last rule that was for one

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Speaker 1: year only, that went permanently.

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Speaker 4: No challenge past interference.

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Speaker 1: No, that was one year, but it did stay permanently.

474
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Speaker 1: But what's the one, what's the one Andre hates more

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Speaker 1: than anything else?

476
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Speaker 4: Extra points? Remember that? Oh extra boy?

477
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Speaker 1: That was for one year only, and then it got accepted. Yeah, okay,

478
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Speaker 1: now it's kickoffs for.

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Speaker 4: One year only.

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Speaker 1: Create a new form of a free kick play that

481
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Speaker 1: is designed to resemble a typical scrimmage played by a

482
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Speaker 1: lining players on both teams closer together and restricting movement

483
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Speaker 1: to reduce space and speed and promote more returns.

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Speaker 4: In other words, the old XFL kickoff.

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Speaker 3: So where they lined up. They're lined up deep right

486
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Speaker 3: against each other, right, and.

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Speaker 4: They can't move.

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Speaker 1: Neither one of them can move until the returner catches

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Speaker 1: the ball.

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Speaker 4: So it's free kick off of te? Correct?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 2: Craft?

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Speaker 3: Free kick? You hear, free kick? You think after a

494
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Speaker 3: safety and it's the punter. Correct, So free kick off

495
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Speaker 3: of te. Everybody's lined up deeper and they're five yards apart.

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Speaker 2: Is that it?

497
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Speaker 3: They're five yards apart? Kickoff? Here's here comes the ball.

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Speaker 3: No one's moving other than the return man getting in

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Speaker 3: position to catch the ball once he catches it.

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Speaker 6: So wait a minute, then you go.

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Speaker 3: If I'm on the return team, I'm not looking back.

502
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Speaker 3: I'm just looking up and I'm thinking, all right, he

503
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Speaker 3: is going to What if the guys bait you.

504
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Speaker 4: Into uh oh, you can't move.

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Speaker 1: They can't move either, so they're going to be offset right,

506
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Speaker 1: So you essentially, as an offensive player, I guess, have

507
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Speaker 1: got to move when he.

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Speaker 3: Does or fall starting. Yeah, if you're an offensive return

509
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Speaker 3: team play, I have to.

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Speaker 4: Watch this a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: But the ones that I've seen do it well, they

512
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Speaker 1: actually turn that into an offensive play. Yeah, it becomes

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Speaker 1: an offensive play. I mean the defend. Defender's like five

514
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Speaker 1: yards away from you. He's not sprinting at you. It's

515
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Speaker 1: five yards away.

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Speaker 4: Hand off. Sometimes they reverse, they do things like that.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, it's just a block and the way they

518
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Speaker 1: block things. Okay, all right, so they might they might

519
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: trap block. You know, this guy blocks down, this guy

520
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Speaker 1: comes over, you know, those kind of things.

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Speaker 4: So they do some creative stuff. I would be.

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Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to something new because I got a

523
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Speaker 1: feel in that Coach Ross, the boss, Frank Ross is

524
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Speaker 1: going to find something kind of cool and find something

525
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Speaker 1: to go with this. So I'm I'm interested in not

526
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Speaker 1: want to see I again for one year only. They

527
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Speaker 1: are recommending this. Now, that doesn't mean that any of

528
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Speaker 1: these that we talked about doesn't. It doesn't mean that

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Speaker 1: they've been accepted. They're just they're just proposed the proposing it.

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Speaker 4: So this is not in. This is not imposal to

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Speaker 4: the Coast Committee. And those three, which ones do you

532
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Speaker 4: think are in?

533
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Speaker 3: And there are others. It's tough to get things in.

534
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Speaker 3: I think they actually try the kickoff. I think, so

535
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Speaker 3: your returns or two, I hate the fair catch rule.

536
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Speaker 2: You know that.

537
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Speaker 4: Can we get rid of the fair catch, well, the

538
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 4: fair catch ru will be out, I think, I hope.

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Speaker 3: So I think that's I think that's how you promote

540
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Speaker 3: more returns, because why am I even dealing with this?

541
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Speaker 3: Just fair catch and take it at the twenty five.

542
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Speaker 3: Andre's big beef is not only you get it at

543
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Speaker 3: the twenty five, but for a punt fair catch or

544
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Speaker 3: a punt in the touchback touchback only comes out to

545
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Speaker 3: the twenty What are we doing here?

546
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Speaker 4: Those are the ones that are proposing.

547
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Speaker 3: Now there are some probably I'm fine with the thirty

548
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 3: three yard extra point. I am just fine with that.

549
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Speaker 3: I think that's actually been a pretty good rule.

550
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 3: It's still ninety plus percent, but it's not ninety eight percent.

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Speaker 1: In the team rules proposals coming from a team, the

553
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles are proposing permitted team to maintain possession of

554
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Speaker 1: the ball after a score by substituting one offensive play

555
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Speaker 1: fourth and twenty from the kicking team's twenty yard line

556
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Speaker 1: for a nonsense I kick it tips.

557
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Speaker 3: You know, if I didn't work for a team, I

558
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 3: think the average NFL casual fan, Well, if you're a

559
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 3: casual fan, do you even care about these rules? How

560
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: can I put this? I don't know, Johnny, because I

561
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: just think it's gonna come back to bite you. You

562
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 3: know you're gonna play one of these quarterbacks. You're gonna

563
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: play at Burrow or a Mahomes or a CJ.

564
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Speaker 4: Stroud.

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Speaker 3: It'd be good for us, right, but exactly, but you're

566
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Speaker 3: gonna play one of these guys. You worked your butt

567
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 3: off all game long. They score, now they get another

568
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Speaker 3: chance with the ball. I don't think they deserve it.

569
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Speaker 3: I think it should be more difficult. It should be

570
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Speaker 3: fourth and twenty five or something ridiculous. I don't know, but.

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Speaker 1: They said fourth and twenty. It's not from twenty, that's

572
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Speaker 1: from to twenty. All right, fourth and twenty from the twenty.

573
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Speaker 3: If you make it, you're already you know, fifteen twenty

574
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Speaker 3: yards from long range field goal possibilities.

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Speaker 1: I mean, nice, so your yards, you don't get it.

576
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Speaker 1: You're giving them the ball in the thirty time.

577
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Speaker 4: Other than all.

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Speaker 3: Right, the previous proposal I thought was from the twenty five,

579
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Speaker 3: and it's fourth and fifteen.

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Speaker 4: Four to fifteen is fourth and twenty from the twenty

581
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Speaker 4: from the twenty. So now we're gonna move backs on twenty.

582
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Speaker 4: I don't know.

583
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Speaker 1: Last time I saw Texans fourth and twenty plus they

584
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Speaker 1: ended up converting a couple of them, so I'm okay

585
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: with that.

586
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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If you saw this last game of the twenty twenty

588
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: two season, remember that fourth to twenty two.

589
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 4: Remember this? I know you do. Davis Mills. This was

590
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 4: posted vaguely familiar.

591
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Speaker 1: This is posted on Twitter the other day. It was

592
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Speaker 1: you know, the the what is it the not the

593
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: meme but the emoji the hands shaking one another. Yeah,

594
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: and it was us against the and it said something

595
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Speaker 1: to the degree of the greatest play in the history

596
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Speaker 1: of the Houston Texans and the Bears. Concurrently at the

597
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Speaker 1: same time, it showed that touchdown because it got the

598
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Speaker 1: Bears the number one pick. They make that deal, that deal,

599
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Speaker 1: because they made that deal with the Panthers, They're back

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Speaker 1: up the.

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Speaker 4: Number one and it's Caleb Williams, and.

602
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Speaker 1: They get Kaylor Williams and then whoever they get at

603
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Speaker 1: number nine, and then obviously led us being at number

604
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Speaker 1: two against CJ.

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Speaker 4: Stroud.

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Speaker 3: So I might come around on four than twenty because

607
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Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what I said last year.

608
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Speaker 4: Can we make it fourth and twenty?

609
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and go deeper in your own to get I

610
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Speaker 3: might want that from the fifteen.

611
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Speaker 2: By the way, the.

612
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Speaker 1: Odds of getting an on side kick now and fourth

613
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Speaker 1: and twenty I think are pretty similar. Really, I think

614
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Speaker 1: it's pretty similar.

615
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Speaker 3: I just well, if I give you the option of

616
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Speaker 3: either one, you're going to take fourth and twenty. You're

617
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Speaker 3: going to take your quarterback slinging it and somebody make

618
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Speaker 3: it a play.

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Speaker 1: Now, the question becomes when you're and this is going

620
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Speaker 1: to put a lot of decision making on the coach

621
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Speaker 1: and a lot of studying that they're going to have

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Speaker 1: to do. When do you do it? What exact is

623
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Speaker 1: it going to be a last resort? Got to have

624
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Speaker 1: a touchdown sort of thing, or like when are you

625
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Speaker 1: going to do it? Like you do it as a surprise,

626
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: like you score to go up fourteen to seven.

627
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: You can't do it as a surprise because you're going

628
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Speaker 3: to be lining up again.

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Speaker 1: Surprise on side kick. I guess you could still do

630
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: a surprise on kit onside kick, right.

631
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Speaker 4: Or do they make the onside kick illegal? Well, that

632
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 4: put this kickoff rule in the onside kick is off.

633
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: It's done forget, so you're not allowed to onside kill

634
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: more on side kicks.

635
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Speaker 4: I still want the on side kick, I know.

636
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Speaker 2: I like that.

637
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: It's like, because no one's gonna really do it, it

638
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 3: would be a surprise when they do it. Yeah, I

639
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: hate the McAfee show coming on every day and in

640
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: the opening credits you see the highlight of him doing

641
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 3: that against the Texans on Thursday night in twenty fourteen.

642
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to see that time. Oh I could

643
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 3: see that in my sleep. I just see him dribbling

644
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: it forward.

645
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: Our guy's going, you're kind of having that moment like

646
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: in Major League where the third basement sees Tom Berenger's bunt.

647
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Speaker 4: He's like, he says a bad word. He now he's

648
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 4: got to go, and he's.

649
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Speaker 1: Like, that's why it felt like our guys were looking

650
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 1: at it and McAfee is just jumping on. I can

651
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: just hear just him cackling, laughing like a next play

652
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: Bombita Tea.

653
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a bad night that was.

654
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the curse is over. The curses over. Tomko

655
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 3: and CJ threw the ring into the fire. They don't

656
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: horsehoe into the fire at the loud House.

657
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: Or whatever he wanted to call it. So anyhow, well,

658
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: Drew Door is gonna stop by. We're gonna go in

659
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: the lab and we're gonna do another mock draft as

660
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Speaker 1: we've done it before using the mock Draft simulator. See

661
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Speaker 1: we come up with I felt like we did a

662
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: really good job. Stay tuned for that next right here

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Speaker 1: in Texans All Access.

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Speaker 4: What's happened? Everybody?

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Speaker 1: Welcomea to Wednesday this of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 4: I'm your host, John Harris.

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Speaker 1: Because it is Wednesday, it means in the.

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Speaker 4: Lab, Drew and I had a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Take a listen here and see what we do with

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Speaker 4: our mock draft. Agreed, disagree.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you will will totally agree, because well why not.

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Speaker 4: So take a listen. Let's go in lab now.

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Speaker 6: Man, oh man, we haven't done this, John Harris and

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Speaker 6: I Drew Doherty, we haven't done this in the lab.

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Speaker 6: Texans in the lab in a long time. In two

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Speaker 6: weeks or so, and you things have changed, John, a.

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Speaker 4: Little bit, A little bit.

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Speaker 6: What's that? How's that go in Anchorman? Uh?

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Speaker 4: From Burgundy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Now, we're not gonna go over all of them

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Speaker 6: because blah blah blah. But you wrote a really good

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Speaker 6: article about a guy named Denico Autry who there's been

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Speaker 6: some excitement about him. I don't think there's been enough

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Speaker 6: excitement about him. Yeah, but you wrote about how he's

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Speaker 6: been a Texans terror and I thought, yeah, he's had

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Speaker 6: some good games, and I didn't really think much more

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Speaker 6: about it. And then I was like, wait, what has

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Speaker 6: he done against the Texans? So I looked him up.

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Speaker 6: I went to Pro Football Reference and I did the

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Speaker 6: career logs, and then I did I clicked on Houston Texans. John,

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Speaker 6: if you include two playoff games? Because he was a

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Speaker 6: rated sixty two playoff games. He's played fifteen times against

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Speaker 6: the Houston Texans. In those fifteen games, he has seventeen

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Speaker 6: tackles for loss against US. He is eight and a

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Speaker 6: half sacks. He's hit the quarterback thirteen times. One thing

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Speaker 6: that I didn't think much of, but goodness gracious, six

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Speaker 6: batted passes in those teams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't think about looking at.

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Speaker 6: The games, and a boatload of tackles. He's nasty. Nick

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Speaker 6: Cassario was on with the Boys painted Pendergass the other morning,

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Speaker 6: called him all sorts of things in a complimentary way,

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Speaker 6: a bad m effort, a pain in the ass, junk

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Speaker 6: yard dog. Junkyard Dog, by the way, was one of

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Speaker 6: my favorite wrestlers. Yes with a WWF back in the day,

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Speaker 6: not wwe WWF. I need to talk about that when

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Speaker 6: Nick I forget him. Yeah, but Deniko Autry gonna be

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Speaker 6: fun now. Denico Autry is not your prototypical, historical four

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Speaker 6: to three defensive end. He can do some stuff. He's

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Speaker 6: even better than that, better athletically suited to play in

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Speaker 6: this defense that Demo Autry or Demiko ryans. I'm not

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Speaker 6: the first, and I won't be the last to jiggle those up.

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Speaker 6: But he's well suited for any defense, especially for this one.

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Speaker 6: He gives you a lot of versatility. And man, I

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Speaker 6: love it bad m effort said by the general manager,

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Speaker 6: who's very limited usually in his in his praise for folks.

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Speaker 6: This is exciting John very much so.

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Speaker 1: And in the article that I wrote, what I did

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Speaker 1: was I went back on all my the articles called

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Speaker 1: no Yours Foe, and I write and I write, you know,

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Speaker 1: keys to the game each time, and so they've obviously

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Speaker 1: changed over the year.

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Speaker 4: So I wrote a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit more as it went on some you know,

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Speaker 1: but you can see what I actually wrote for a

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Speaker 1: playoff game at twenty eighteen, for a regular season game

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 4: The regular season games the last couple of years when

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Speaker 4: he was with Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: And in one of them, I put that Nick Autrey

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Speaker 1: is I think the most underrated defender in the AFC

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Speaker 1: South and probably could have stopped at AFC. I felt

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Speaker 1: like that, that's how highly I've thought of him, because

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Speaker 1: I remembered all those games where he had a couple

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Speaker 1: of sacks. We had TFLs like, dang it, if we

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Speaker 1: could just block Autry and we just couldn't block Autry.

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Speaker 1: And now he's a Texan and you mentioned Nick Cassio

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Speaker 1: and what he had to say. As soon as it

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Speaker 1: happened or shortly thereafter, Jeffrey Simmons the Pro Bowl, a

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle for the Tennessee Titans, tweeted out, don't essentially,

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Speaker 1: don't tell me that Niko. He called Nico, And that's

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Speaker 1: gonna get confusing too, because he had Nico de Nico

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Speaker 1: and Miko and Demiko. You got all that because the

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Speaker 1: players called and the coaches called Demko, Miko yep, and

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Speaker 1: then there's Nico and now you've got Deniko.

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Speaker 6: So that's gonna get fun.

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Speaker 1: So Denik Autry, he's going to be able to wreck shop.

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Speaker 1: And when Jeffrey Simmons said, paraphrasing, man, don't tell me

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Speaker 1: the Texans got him. Yeah, Texans got him. And so

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Speaker 1: that ends up being a pretty interesting situation when your

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Speaker 1: best player saying, no, I don't want I don't want this,

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Speaker 1: this can't happen. So pretty interesting stuff that he comes

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Speaker 1: to the Texas.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was one thing I wanted to touch on.

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Speaker 6: Also this morning, we're shooting this on a Wednesday, the

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Speaker 6: twentieth of March, the last day of winter winter schminter

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Speaker 6: here in Houston anyways. Mike Ford Cleveland Brown now Houston,

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Speaker 6: Texan primarily a special teamer yep, but he's got a

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Speaker 6: lot of time in the league. He's a very experienced player.

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Speaker 6: Cleveland Brown's official Twitter account today had a nice picture

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Speaker 6: of Ford. Hey, thanks for everything, Thanks for what you

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Speaker 6: brought to the locker room. So they don't teams don't

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Speaker 6: typically do that. I mean there's a variation. Some teams

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Speaker 6: don't really do anything at all, some teams do a

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Speaker 6: little bit. That's that's a pretty significant tweet to send

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Speaker 6: off for a guy who's primarily been a special teamer

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Speaker 6: and not a kicker, not a punter, but you know,

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Speaker 6: kind of a gunner that that's gotta be excited because

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Speaker 6: we know special teams is important on this team. We

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Speaker 6: know it's important in general. It's it's a little I

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Speaker 6: think there's a bit more of an emphasis placed on

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Speaker 6: it here with the Texans. I like what I'm seeing

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Speaker 6: there with regards to what Frank Ross is going to

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Speaker 6: be able to put out there on the field and coverage.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's Sean Phillips too. You had two very very

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Speaker 4: good Special Teams players.

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Speaker 1: Because you don't know ultimately that you can bring back

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Speaker 1: everybody that was on your Special Teams. When you think about,

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Speaker 1: you know, roster churn for the most part, the roster

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Speaker 1: churn is probably the bottom for the most part is

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Speaker 1: typically the bottom you know what tend to feit dean

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Speaker 1: of your roster, and a lot of times that's where

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Speaker 1: it kind of drudges up these you know Special Teams players.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tabier Thomas ended up signing with Cameraber where

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Speaker 1: you signed Buccaneers maybe something like that. So you know,

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Speaker 1: you have those players that are probably gonna churn a

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Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 4: But if you can go find players that you don't.

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Speaker 1: Skip a beat Special Teams wise, because obviously you know

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Speaker 1: Frank and what he's done with that group, Coach Burnham,

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Speaker 1: what they've done with that group, and now Sean Baker's

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Speaker 1: back on the defensive side.

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Speaker 4: He was with that Special Teams for a couple of years,

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Speaker 4: So you.

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Speaker 1: Know, skip a beat and you bring in Tommy Townsend,

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Speaker 1: who's got better hair than both of us, and so

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Speaker 1: hopefully he with good cover units, can leave that punk

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Speaker 1: group at a high level. Obviously, bring back Kayimi and

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Speaker 1: John Weeks had signed. I want to say John Weeks

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Speaker 1: signed during the season or something. He reac right after, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like very quickly, yeah, very much spefully. So your special

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Speaker 1: teams hopefully, Okay, you're gonna have some churn. So when

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Speaker 1: you lose Tavier Thomas and you lose some others from

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Speaker 1: those special teams, where do you find of the players? Well,

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Speaker 1: you bring in, you know, two guys that were instrumental

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Speaker 1: for their special teams from the AFC North, that being

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Phillis from the Ravens and then Mike Ford. And

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Speaker 1: I remember watching Ford with the Browns and I thought

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Speaker 1: this was interesting.

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Speaker 4: I was taking.

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Speaker 1: Notice of him during both the regular season and the

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Speaker 1: playoff game, and I don't know if there was anything

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Speaker 1: in particular. It just was like, man, that dude's always

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Speaker 1: kind of in the mix, Like he's always he's around

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Speaker 1: the ball, he's making a tackle, He's just always kind

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Speaker 1: of there. He's kind of a pest. And I just

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Speaker 1: remember Mike Ford. So when we signed him, I thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: I remember that. Now there was nothing really where I

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Speaker 1: was like, Oh, there was this player that it just

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Speaker 1: kind of felt like he was always in everything that

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Speaker 1: was going around and going on and I.

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Speaker 4: And I kind of I like that.

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Speaker 1: And obviously people say, well he ran a kickback against

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Speaker 1: the Browns. Yeah, and ran to kick back against the

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Speaker 1: Ravens too. Doesn't mean that there aren't players from those

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Speaker 1: respective Special Teams units that can come make your text

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Speaker 1: in Special Teams units that much better.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, those are definitely signed.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Autry one, because once Daniil Hunter happened,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody's talking about Hunter, and no

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Speaker 1: man Hunter is gonna make you this. I think the

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Speaker 1: chess piece that Autry is is pretty interesting. And I

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Speaker 1: happened to start the Wire with my son, and there's

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Speaker 1: a there's an early.

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Speaker 4: Episode of The Wire.

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Speaker 6: Are you talking about the HBO show?

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Speaker 4: Okay? The HBO show The Wire? Okay, And so there's you.

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Speaker 1: Now, we're way behind on it, you know, obviously because

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Speaker 1: it was back in the early to mid two thousands.

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Speaker 6: Oh, you've never seen it. But they're talking about chess.

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Speaker 1: They're talking about, you know, the chess pieces and moving

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Speaker 1: them on a board. Well, to me, Denico Autry is

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Speaker 1: one of those chess pieces you can do a lot

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Speaker 1: with that you maybe can't do with other people, you know,

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter are probably gonna be your starters.

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Speaker 1: But Autry is like, Okay, well, hey, Denico, can you

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Speaker 1: move inside on this play?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I could do that, and they're run the ball on us.

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Speaker 4: Can you play the edge? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I can set the edge. He can do so many

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Speaker 1: different things. So I feel like once Hunter was signed,

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Speaker 1: that obviously took all the headlines. But I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: in this building they're looking at Deniko going, man, He's

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Speaker 1: a chess piece we can use in a lot of

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Speaker 1: different and a lot of different games, not I mean

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Speaker 1: football games, stunt games, chess games. Rocher is going to

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Speaker 1: be a really nice chess piece, and I just love

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Speaker 1: the other special teams pieces that go along with it,

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Speaker 1: like you mentioned Deshaun Phillips and Mike Ford.

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Speaker 6: It's we still have a while to go before OTAs,

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Speaker 6: before training camp for the season, so on and so forth. Also,

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Speaker 6: the draft is going to be a big part of this.

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Speaker 6: But because of what Demico Ryans was inheriting last year

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Speaker 6: personnel wise, might we be seeing now a shift personnel

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Speaker 6: wise on the defensive side of the ball with that

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Speaker 6: front seven and how he's going to deploy things because

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Speaker 6: there's an idea, well, who's the starting defensive tackle, and

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Speaker 6: that's a valid concern, But is there maybe a shift

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Speaker 6: and should we kind of think about it a little

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Speaker 6: differently than we have historically around here? Like I'm not

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Speaker 6: saying he's going to a three to four. I'm not

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Speaker 6: saying he's disregarding the defensive tackle, but is there because

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Speaker 6: of Autrey being a chess piece and because of what

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Speaker 6: is out there, we need to kind of rethink our

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Speaker 6: perception of what his defense is well and is the

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Speaker 6: way it's deployed.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's so much the Texans drew,

878
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: just as it is what's what's available now?

879
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 6: Right?

880
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 4: I think I heard Andy Reid say this read it somewhere.

881
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: Andy Reid said, Hey, look, you know NFL teams are

882
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: typically five to seven years behind college teams and even

883
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: seven to ten years behind high school teams, and those

884
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: two teams obviously they function differently in college obviously, which

885
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: feeds the NFL. The reason that there's that impact is

886
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: you look around, like I look around. Just take defensive

887
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: tackle for instance, and there's still three hundred pounders, but

888
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: most of the prospects on the defensive line are ninety

889
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: ninety nine. A lot of them get above three hundred,

890
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: and I think that's a functionality of college football. They're

891
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: taking bigger guys because offenses are moving so fast and

892
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: so quick that they're getting away from interior run games

893
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff and making it kind

894
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: of a space game. And so you don't want three

895
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounders there. Those guys end up going

896
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: to offense, they end up going to guard, they end

897
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: up going to maybe even center, they maybe even move

898
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: to tackle. And now you're looking at defensive tackles that

899
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: are sleek to ninety five three hundred pounds. I mean,

900
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: I go to Senior Bowl and they're all two hundred

901
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: and ninety five pounds, Mike Halls to eighty. Gab Haaul

902
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: from Baylor is to ninety one. You know, Tyler Davis

903
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: is topping out at three h two. So there's not

904
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: a lot of big and so my point is, I

905
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: think what the Texans are doing in some respects is

906
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: kind of mimicking what's really kind of happening in the

907
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: world of football. That defensive tackles are really not your

908
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: Vince Wilfork's. There aren't too many DJ readers anymore three

909
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds.

910
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: They're kind of freakyzoids if you find one.

911
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: I watched one at A and M pro Day, and

912
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: McKinley Jackson three hundred twenty five pounds and moves pretty well.

913
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: But it's basically he and tovanre Sweat that are kind

914
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: of the big guys in this draft class. And I

915
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: think what we're gonna have to do as fans is

916
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have that big run stuffer and then

917
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: the other kind of quick, sleek three hundred pounder. If

918
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: you will, you might end up having to sleek three

919
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: hundred pounders because that's just what's available now in the

920
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: world of football.

921
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 4: Now.

922
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: You could at some point say, all right, well we're

923
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: gonna take that Guarden College offensive Guarden College and tournament

924
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: into a defensive tackle. But coach doesn't have three years

925
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: of turn that guy into a player. He's got to

926
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: do that right away. So I think what we're seeing

927
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: Drew is just kind of a microcosm of everything that's

928
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: happening at the defensive tackle position.

929
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 4: It's just what's available now.

930
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Really, isn't that kind of big run stuffer now getting

931
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: fat Tukasi at three hundred and twenty pounds. That definitely helps.

932
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: But those guys are so few and far between. So

933
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: how do you change maybe your attack a little bit.

934
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: How does that kind of come into play a little bit.

935
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: So we'll see how it does impact the Texas going forward.

936
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: But I always just find it it's an interesting kind

937
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: of change just because of what's available, what's out there

938
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: in the market.

939
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 6: I got an idea, dude, you brought up the would

940
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 6: you say seven years high school?

941
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: It's behind yeah, five to seven?

942
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

943
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 6: Well, I think there was a guy in nineteen eighty

944
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 6: two up in uh in Pennsylvania. I think he was

945
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 6: about forty years ahead of well, forty two years now

946
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 6: ahead of things. I think we're going to see a

947
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 6: six to two stack defense like the ampire.

948
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: Stephen Georgia did.

949
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think we're looking at a six

950
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 6: to two switch two stack monster, six too stacked monster.

951
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 6: What do you think?

952
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd love it. I'd love it.

953
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: And then of course when the Miami Dolphins come here,

954
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: they would eat up a six to two stacked monster.

955
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: But uh, that's it. It's you know, back then when

956
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: you did the Monster, when you did play a six

957
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: to two stack monster. You needed a monster in the middle,

958
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, a guy with a guy with some size.

959
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: And we went through that period in football that you

960
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: could put a guy that was three hundred and thirty pounds,

961
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: let him play, you know, Big Grease, Ryan Pickett, Yeah, love,

962
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: we love Big Grease.

963
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: He was great.

964
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 6: It's very good for the tax.

965
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: There weren't as many four There weren't as many teams

966
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: playing quite a space game back in twenty fourteen. But

967
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: you know a lot of those guys are getting phased

968
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: out now. DJ Reader, like I mentioned earlier's three hundred

969
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 1: thirty pounds, but he moves very very well. McKinley Jackson

970
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: three hundred twenty five pounds, moves very very well. You

971
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: can't just be that guy that just clogs gaps. There's

972
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: just there's that great that you can do it. But

973
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 1: it just doesn't matter a ton because teams are like,

974
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: all right, well he's not going to beat our head

975
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: against the wall, and you could take that guy out

976
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: of the game and away you go. Now, a lot

977
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: will be said about Devondre sweats three hundred and sixty

978
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: six pounds.

979
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 4: What about him?

980
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he matches, you know, athleticism and with that size,

981
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: like you should even at three sixty six and you're like, yo,

982
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: now does that raise his value? Do teams think he's

983
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: just a two down run stuffer? And how teams assess

984
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: him is going to completely change his draft grade. So

985
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: we'll see is available at forty two, We'll see, and

986
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: we'll see at that point whether the Texans do want

987
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: to commit themselves to having a little size to go

988
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: through athleticism or just kind of following the trend.

989
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 4: Of what's available in the marketplace.

990
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 6: All right, with all that in mind, it's time to

991
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 6: do the exercise. What you and I haven't done the

992
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 6: exercise in weeks, and the exercise if you haven't been

993
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 6: with us before, is we go to Pro Footballnetwork dot

994
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 6: Com their mock draft simulator. Because the Texans they've moved around,

995
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 6: they've shed some picks. They don't have a first rounder anymore,

996
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 6: but they also got rid of a seventh. They also

997
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 6: added a one eighty eight, so it's jiggled up. I've

998
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,959
Speaker 6: got the thing going. You always want to do seven rounds,

999
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 6: you always want to go fast, and you always want

1000
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: to choose the Houston Texans. So the Texans are on

1001
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 6: the board now at forty two. But John, before I

1002
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 6: tell you who's available, just keep this in mind. Cleveland

1003
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 6: wants forty two and one eighty eight in exchange for

1004
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 6: fifty four. Oh, that's okay, and next year's second rounder.

1005
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 6: That's enticing. So you'd moved back twelve and you still

1006
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 6: have another second rounder this year, but you're forty two

1007
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 6: and one eighty eight. Go you get fifty four and

1008
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 6: next year second, and then also on the table, I'm

1009
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 6: not wild about this one forty two and a seventh.

1010
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 6: You're two four seven for seventy six. It's a big

1011
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 6: move back. And Denver's second and Denver's third next year.

1012
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 4: Let's get jiggy with Let's do the first one.

1013
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 6: Okay, so in the first trade, but but before we do,

1014
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 6: I just want to let you know who's on the board. Okay,

1015
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 6: wide receiver from Texas Aden Im Mitchell Pennix is available. Yep,

1016
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 6: to DeAndre Sweat at forty one. He's third on the board.

1017
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 6: He's available, Okay. You also have an edge rusher at

1018
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 6: deze Isaac Troy Franklin. The receiver from Oregon Ruca Roro

1019
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 6: ro Man. This is giving me pause. Eddrin Cooper is

1020
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 6: available as well, and he seems like a killer.

1021
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: Okay, people know how much I like Drian Cooper.

1022
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, blnebacker one and Harris one hundred for forty two overall.

1023
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: Ironically in the Harrison one hundred, my comp for him

1024
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: is Christian Harris.

1025
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 6: Is that too redundant? If you were to add a

1026
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 6: guy like that, that's exactly right. Okay, you don't want him, okay,

1027
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 6: Malachi Corley, Leonard Taylor defensive tackle.

1028
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: Okay, swing, you said about four or five names that

1029
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: I that I kind of like.

1030
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: So let's make the deal. Let's get that second next

1031
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 4: year as well.

1032
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: So now we got three seconds next year, a first

1033
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: and three seconds next year.

1034
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 6: I like that, So let's do it. Okay, We've made

1035
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 6: the deal. And there's another deal bruin with the Browns.

1036
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 6: They want fifty four in exchange for eighty five one

1037
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 6: fifty six next year's third and fourth. I say no thing, no, no, no,

1038
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 6: Let's stay at fifty four. Okay. Pennis is still available,

1039
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 6: de Andre Sweat still available.

1040
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: Bang it Sweat, Andre Sweat, Let's do it. Tennis Pro

1041
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: Day today probably didn't do a whole lot, wasn't there.

1042
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: I was at A and M yesterday where I saw

1043
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: Adrian Cooper, but not there to see Devandre Sweat, but

1044
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: I've seen him up close to personal the Senior Bowl.

1045
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: He can wreck some stuff. All right.

1046
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: News for the Texans, a couple of signings. We'll get

1047
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: through those next start here in Texans All Access. We

1048
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: go one final segment of this initiation to Texans All Access.

1049
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Harris, football sideline reporter. Make sure

1050
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: you're checking out all our great stuff at Houston Texans

1051
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: dot Comis did an article on PRODA at A and

1052
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: M on Tuesday that I went to. I got a

1053
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: Deco Autry article up there, got one you definitely got

1054
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: to read on Daniel Hunter. So make sure you're checking

1055
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: all that out, all our podcasts, all of that sort

1056
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: of stuff. Now I mentioned Danil Hunter and Aniko Autry.

1057
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: They are both defensive end types.

1058
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 4: Autry can go inside.

1059
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: The Texans have added well to their own, one of

1060
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: them being a defensive end. That is Derek Barnett got

1061
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: to the Texans later in the year twenty twenty three,

1062
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: really was a big factor for this defense down the

1063
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: stretch with some of the injuries. Uh so, Derek Barnett

1064
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: returns to the Texans. He had I think it was

1065
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,240
Speaker 1: three sacks, maybe two and a half somewhere in there

1066
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: in just six games and started four times. So Derek

1067
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: Barnett like it, Come on back, my friend, that's gonna

1068
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: be fun. Also back to the Texans. According to sources,

1069
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: Steven Simms, my Pecan Grove Mafia homeboy, Steven Simms coming back.

1070
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: When last we saw Steven Simms, he was taking one

1071
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: to the house against the Ravens. That was awesome just

1072
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: watching that whole thing on, you know, unfold and go, man,

1073
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: holy cow, we're gonna We're tied at ten really with

1074
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: kind of the way things were going. But Steven Simms

1075
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: gave this team a number of good moments. He is

1076
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: apparently re signing with the Texans. So to repeat, Derek

1077
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: Barnett staying with the Texans, Steven Simms staying with the Texans.

1078
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: That defensive end position just continues. I mean, if we

1079
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: go down the list, Will Anderson, Junior, Daniel Hunter, Deniko Autry,

1080
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: Derek Barnett, you got my Jay Sanders, and we don't

1081
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: know about Dylan Horton. Timing wise, Well, man, if you've

1082
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 1: got Dylan.

1083
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 4: Horton, back. Wow, Holy smokes, A defensive end position is jacked.

1084
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 4: Is jacked. That's really really nice.

1085
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: Now defensive tackle, I know, probably some things they need

1086
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: to do, but added Mario Edwards also kind of a

1087
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Denico Autry type inside outside sort of guy. So a

1088
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: lot of things going on with that defensive line. We'll

1089
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: see how that changes. The draft coming up in a

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Speaker 1: little over a month from now, about five weeks from now,

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Speaker 1: so looking forward to that, of course, but looking forward

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Speaker 1: to well tomorrow's show, Thursday show, so make sure you're

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Speaker 1: checking us out.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys, Appreciate Drew Mark, all of you for listening.

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Speaker 4: Thank you Tank. That was awesome. We'll see tomorrow, buddy.

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Speaker 4: As always, Go Texans,