WEBVTT - What a Show (S2 E21, “Everybody's Talking 'Bout It”)

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<v Speaker 1>It's nine with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me Jenny Garth. Welcome to another episode of nine

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<v Speaker 1>o two on omg Uh. Today I am flying so

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<v Speaker 1>low ish, I guess well without my usual co host

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<v Speaker 1>Tory and Sissany, but I do have a dazzling co

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<v Speaker 1>host with me today. I'm very excited about this. You

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<v Speaker 1>you may remember him from his steamy role as Jake

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<v Speaker 1>Hanson on Beverly Hills nine o two on Oh, Grant

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<v Speaker 1>Show is with me today. Let's bring him in. H Hey, Grant,

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<v Speaker 1>are you good? How are you? I'm good. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to apologize for you because last time I saw you

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<v Speaker 1>ten or fifteen years ago, whenever it was, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of was rude Tina and I apologize. Wait wait, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember, Thank god, no, I remember. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into this because when when we were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>co host um, they said Grant shower and I said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a great idea. And then I had this like

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<v Speaker 1>feeling in the back of my mind like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if we had a good experience last time we

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<v Speaker 1>saw each other. I couldn't really remember specifically what was

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<v Speaker 1>just like I like I was like, how I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to see you, and I think you came. I asked.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, and I saw you, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>think maybe someone went and asked you to come over,

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<v Speaker 1>or you came over. I don't remember why, but like

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<v Speaker 1>I like like I looked at reached out for you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you made an effort. And then as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you made the effort, I saw right behind you

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<v Speaker 1>like slot it off like a butterfly flower and I

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<v Speaker 1>was rude And I'm just super sorry. I first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>your apology accepted. Second of all, I didn't know specifically

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<v Speaker 1>what it wasn't that is like the classic like this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it was terrible before apparently it happened in

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<v Speaker 1>my real life. Wow, well that's hilarious. Well, nevertheless, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt bad about it ever seen. Oh look at you

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<v Speaker 1>let it go like short, like right after I tried

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<v Speaker 1>that ninety I realized what I had done. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I just was like so rude, and

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to find you, but you by the time

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find you. And then you know, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>that just shows that you are a super self aware

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<v Speaker 1>of person, and that is a really important quality. Not

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<v Speaker 1>right in that moment. I wasn't not in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you, but you know, sometimes it takes a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, this is like a like a Jake and

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly reunion. Yeah right, I don't remember anything about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hold like you remember that, but you you won't. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember our episode? Well, I vaguely remember it was

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<v Speaker 1>two episodes. I remember building a gazebo. Yes, two episodes

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<v Speaker 1>in season two. And you were like the carpenter right

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<v Speaker 1>that my mom hired right in the backyard Dylan's or

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<v Speaker 1>from Dylan's past or oh interesting, remember that either? See

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that part and I were from the same

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<v Speaker 1>part of the war. I think we were both from

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<v Speaker 1>the the Northwest, from like Oregon or someplace like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and we both had similar backgrounds. Ah, well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember that now. I do remember we had a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of really steamy makeout sessions. Remember that, Yeah, I do too.

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<v Speaker 1>I also remember when I got I've never seen the show,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was cast and then I found out that

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to be working with. Um what was

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<v Speaker 1>your characterst name? Okay, you're a really funny or be

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<v Speaker 1>you're crazy? Um Kelly, Kelly, you were serious. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>remember it. I did not remember, my goodness, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was staying on the head as a child. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I found out that I was going to be working

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<v Speaker 1>with Kelly, I was like, Okay, well I need to

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<v Speaker 1>find out which of these ladies it is, which these

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<v Speaker 1>women it is? And I was very pleased that it

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<v Speaker 1>was you. Good. I'm glad. How have you been? I've

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<v Speaker 1>been super I mean, life is a crazy ride, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>You Mr have been You've had such an amazing career.

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing a little research on you last night,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have just done so many shows. You you

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<v Speaker 1>started out on started out in soaps, right, so you

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<v Speaker 1>were in daytime And that's when I met um. Um

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<v Speaker 1>Luke and I were on shows. He was Unloving and

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<v Speaker 1>I was on Ryan's Hope. And then we shot in

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<v Speaker 1>the same building, kind of across the hall from each other.

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<v Speaker 1>So we he and I went back like to the

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<v Speaker 1>very very beginnings of a career. We dated the same woman.

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<v Speaker 1>We like that career is just a lie. Just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of kept passing this like this, just like this. It

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<v Speaker 1>was so nice to have um reconnected with him fairly

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<v Speaker 1>recently before he passed. Yeah, that's nice though. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a good friend. He was a good guy anyway. Anyway, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you started on Daytime and then I just find

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<v Speaker 1>your story really interesting. Um. Then Aaron Spelling kind of

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<v Speaker 1>plucked you and put you in Primetime. It was love Boat.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do love Boat? Right after? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>did love Boat, um, while I was still on the

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<v Speaker 1>daytime show. And then when I finished my contract there,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to London for a year, and when I

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<v Speaker 1>came back, I believe I did. Yeah, I did a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of theater out of New York. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of kept getting gigs in l A. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I go to l A and I'd worked and

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<v Speaker 1>to come back to New York and spend all my

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<v Speaker 1>money because it was so expensive to live out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when I just decided to move out to

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<v Speaker 1>l A. And it wasn't it was a while before, um,

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<v Speaker 1>before melrose Place happened, before I met you guys. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably ten years after I started working. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So melrose Place. Okay, did you know when you started

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<v Speaker 1>out as Jake Hanson that you would be getting your

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<v Speaker 1>own spin off? Like, I mean, that's a pretty big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>So you knew, I knew that they were using this

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<v Speaker 1>character's sprameboard a new show. I mean, that's a that's huge. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew it was a big deal. I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was reading for Melrose Place, not nine o two and

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<v Speaker 1>no Ah. Then they told me that the way they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to introduce the show was through my character on

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<v Speaker 1>your show. Yeah. I loved it, And I loved that

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<v Speaker 1>my character was like a crossover sort of. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. Like I just watched the episode that

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<v Speaker 1>they told me to watch for you take good Good.

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<v Speaker 1>You did your homework so difficult. Um, and there's such

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<v Speaker 1>different shows, like I've forgotten how kind of it's a

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<v Speaker 1>very special man to know the show was this episode

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<v Speaker 1>though in particular. But yeah, this episode, you got a

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<v Speaker 1>really great episode to watch because we'll get into it later,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is definitely my favorite episode by far for

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<v Speaker 1>so many reasons. Well one of you know, so far,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only in season two, so we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing. You're going through and watching an episode?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do this every day? No, we do it

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<v Speaker 1>once a week. And we're Tory and I are going

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<v Speaker 1>uh and watching the original show for the very first

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<v Speaker 1>time because while we were on it, we never really

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<v Speaker 1>watched it. So we are watching every episode in succession,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, we're just becoming complete fans of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't you watch you when when you first did it?

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<v Speaker 1>We're busy working and trying to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 1>juggle everything, like there was no television in my life

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<v Speaker 1>at that time. Yeah, well, because you're that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne's Place really lifted off kind of the same time

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<v Speaker 1>as nine or two or no, Like we both kind

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<v Speaker 1>of shot out the same time you guys a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years before us, and I don't think we have

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<v Speaker 1>a really we didn't have a really reach kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like crazy level that you guys reached to me. We

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<v Speaker 1>were it was a big deal, but we didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>like people. People weren't hunting me down, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Well, I mean it wasn't It wasn't really huge.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you feel about that, Like, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>handle that sort of sudden thing because you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shot to start them in that moment with the show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I knew that it was possible when I

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<v Speaker 1>took the job. I was like, there's a really good

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<v Speaker 1>chance that this is going to be a big show, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said to myself, you know, you keep your

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<v Speaker 1>feet on the ground. It's really, you know, easy to

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<v Speaker 1>get um lured into. No, not just really bad behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>but just sort of a skewed vision of yourself. And

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, even warning myself and being ready

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<v Speaker 1>for it and having my guard up, I look back

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<v Speaker 1>on him like now, it still messed me up. It

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't know that there's anything anyone can do.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's no rule book, there's no guide book,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no manual, there's no you know, nobody really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody can even really give you advice because everyone's journey

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<v Speaker 1>is different and you just kind of have to figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out, you know, because life really But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>did you have like a solid like um support system,

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<v Speaker 1>Like did you have your parents? Did you have family

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<v Speaker 1>around you at all during that time? I had some

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<v Speaker 1>good friends. I did, And like I said, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say I probably, well, I would say probably, I say

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<v Speaker 1>I would say I lost my wife for a little

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<v Speaker 1>while horribly, you know what I mean. I didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't didn't go off the rails. No, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>not proudly of some of my behavior. Yeah, what about you?

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<v Speaker 1>How did you do it? Me? It was all about

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<v Speaker 1>I have families still around me. I had parents that

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<v Speaker 1>were still a part of my life. I had um

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<v Speaker 1>my sisters in Illinois and from the Midwest, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that I had. I relied a lot on my family

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<v Speaker 1>during that time, and I coupled up like I had

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<v Speaker 1>one boyfriend or one husband for the duration, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a one person, one partner. So that really Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't out there like a bar is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>meet people or using my status to you know, do that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's how I survived, honestly, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>were You were very young too, weren't. You're probably ten

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<v Speaker 1>years younger me, are you? Yeah? I think so. I

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<v Speaker 1>was about sixteen seventeen. Yeah, when I worked with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably eighteen. Okay, yeah, I was thirty. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like seventeen. So basically you were. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was against the all what was happening, right? Wow? For

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<v Speaker 1>that to survive that good for you. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's not easy for sure, but we live really wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>lives because of it. And if you are, like I

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<v Speaker 1>said before, have any self awareness or sort of have

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<v Speaker 1>grown at all as the human are evolved. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you sort of can stop and look back and do

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<v Speaker 1>what you just did, which is like, you know, be

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<v Speaker 1>accountable and and talk about it, like not be ashamed

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<v Speaker 1>of it and not try to hide it or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's really cool. Yeah, well run your face

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, you know what I mean when you

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<v Speaker 1>look in the mirror, there you are exactly exactly now

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<v Speaker 1>you have, um, you have a family, now, is that correct?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean your kids and are they older? Are they? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I started really young. I started when I was My

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<v Speaker 1>girls are older now fifteen, eighteen, and twenty four. Wow

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<v Speaker 1>of a seven year old seven year old daughter? Right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm loving it. It changes you. I think it's so much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the greatest thing ever. It really is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's part of it, Like it like it takes

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<v Speaker 1>your focus off of you and put it on some

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<v Speaker 1>other being. Well, I think you it's like to be

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<v Speaker 1>a parent, you can't you have to be of service, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to be so you can't if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a good parent. Yeah, if you're a parent, your person

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out around it not be of service. But you're

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<v Speaker 1>not parent then um, but yeah, it just takes so

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<v Speaker 1>much um, being of service and then I think you

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<v Speaker 1>for me anyway, I learned that being of service. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like when you put effort into anything, it becomes more valuable.

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<v Speaker 1>And that effort of being you know, taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds really this sounds undersoid to sell that before,

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, it sounds a lot kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thinner than I think it is. Um. They just there,

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<v Speaker 1>your passion grows work for it. The more effort you

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<v Speaker 1>put in, the more work you put in, the more

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<v Speaker 1>of service you are towards something, the more your passion

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<v Speaker 1>is for it, and the more joy you take out

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<v Speaker 1>of the service that you give. That's what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say. That is very beautifully said and so so true.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that applies to like anything like yeah, yeah, parenting,

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<v Speaker 1>your career, your relationships, your relationship with yourself, so many things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's really cool. Well, so back to some little some

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<v Speaker 1>of some more fanning out on my part of you

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<v Speaker 1>in your career. So you have many episodes were you

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<v Speaker 1>on More Rist Place. We did thirty four a year

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<v Speaker 1>and I did five years. Uh, and then you and

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<v Speaker 1>a few of the other cast members left the show

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<v Speaker 1>at a certain point right I left. We all have

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<v Speaker 1>five year contracts and I left contractors, do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>like I think like I wish I had done it differently,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I hadn't left, or I'm really glad, Like

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<v Speaker 1>how how do you feel about it now? I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I left. Um, you know, I never got

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<v Speaker 1>the cash in because, as you know, Aaron doesn't pay

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<v Speaker 1>very well for your first deal, you think the beginning, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I never I never had I never got a raise.

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<v Speaker 1>I never renegotiate anything. My five year deal was my

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<v Speaker 1>five year deal. Um, so I would be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more secure. My financial security would be greater right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But I never you say I've not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>TV shows. I have not a lot of TV shows.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've never been interested in money, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of money. I mean, I'm comfortable, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not like you know, I don't have twenty million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in the bank like like you might think I

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<v Speaker 1>would have if you look at the career I had,

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<v Speaker 1>right that has never been my focus. And so yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if I had stayed on for another year or two,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that would have paid me probably you know,

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollars or something like that. Something in the

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood of that. Um, whoa, you're getting paid a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more than me. The negotiation, I figured thirty two episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>If you got a hundred grand a year, right, that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably what I could have got an episode. An episode, yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is insane. Hello, if you just think about what

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<v Speaker 1>you just said, you made a hundred thousand years, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I probably could have gotten that could have for

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<v Speaker 1>working for seven days. Yeah yeah, break that down. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know what that is hourly. Haven't you ever

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<v Speaker 1>done episode? We did? We had one line? Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here and I'm getting paid and I'm saying three words,

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<v Speaker 1>I love my job. It's like thirty thousand dollars of work. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ridiculous. But listen, I never made that kind of money.

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<v Speaker 1>If I had gone down that I might have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to get, you know what I mean. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>say it was four million dollars. But you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like, okay, so you have four million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in the bank, really two million because the government

0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.680
<v Speaker 1>takes half of Italy see two million dollars in the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, I felt like people that stayed on

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<v Speaker 1>the show passed their initial contract, that was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the end of their career. And historically that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>was true. You know, when there was three networks and

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<v Speaker 1>you know people thirty million people watched an episode of

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<v Speaker 1>something you got stuck in that role during our time

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<v Speaker 1>on our show, on two Your Time and on by Time,

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<v Speaker 1>My Morrow's Place. That started to change, and it has

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<v Speaker 1>become clear that that does isn't the case that more

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<v Speaker 1>can move on. You can't have a bigger and longer

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<v Speaker 1>career even if you stay on your show. So my

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<v Speaker 1>reason for doing it, it turned out not to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the time, I didn't know that I made

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<v Speaker 1>the best choice that I could at the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the right choice given the information

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<v Speaker 1>I had, So I don't at all. You weren't alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think a lot of actors had that perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally didn't. I just I didn't think it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a gold personally, I don't think ahead, So I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think to make a change, like it didn't occur

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<v Speaker 1>to me. But there were people around me, like Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Luke and Uh. They wanted to go do other things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they thought if they stayed doing the show,

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<v Speaker 1>they would never ever get to work anywhere else again

0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.359
<v Speaker 1>because people would never see them as anything other than

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon and Dylan. So totally you were you weren't alone

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<v Speaker 1>in that. And by the way, it took years before

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<v Speaker 1>well has you know, every time I walk into a room,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Canson was there with me, you know, for quite

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<v Speaker 1>a few years. And finally I realized the reason we

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<v Speaker 1>Canson was in the room every time I walked in

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<v Speaker 1>because I was bringing it in with me. And you know,

0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.440
<v Speaker 1>when I foundly let myself get away from that, then

0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I was able to get away from it. But that

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<v Speaker 1>it takes a while, whether however it's happening, It takes

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<v Speaker 1>a while for you to kind of like cleanse yourself

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<v Speaker 1>from something that's that that's that integrated, like it's part

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<v Speaker 1>of you. Yeah, that's it was a huge part of time,

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<v Speaker 1>right because your show, our show, they were they had

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<v Speaker 1>such a big impact on so many people during a

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<v Speaker 1>very specific time, you know, and and the fans of

0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.800
<v Speaker 1>our show and your show and other shows, but they

0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:32.400
<v Speaker 1>are just so devoted and so like invested in these characters.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what made our shows success. People

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<v Speaker 1>still recognize me from from Mo's Place. Really, like when

0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you get recognized most is it mostly now? It's real

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<v Speaker 1>g some melogh now it's missing a bunch of different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Swing down Dynasty Dynasty mostly now because that's what's on

0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:57.840
<v Speaker 1>right now town and yeah most Place. So yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of full circle for because you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>started out with Aaron Spelling and now you're on Spelling Dynasty.

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<v Speaker 1>When it came across my desk, I was like my

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<v Speaker 1>desk when I when I got the audition, was like,

0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:17.119
<v Speaker 1>do you have a desk? Exactly? I don't. I was

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<v Speaker 1>rolling my eyes and myself when I got the audition,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh well, I'm like, I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>in thirty years of a career that sets me up,

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<v Speaker 1>tease me up perfectly for this job. It's not, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It is exactly what it should be. It doesn't take

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<v Speaker 1>itself seriously at all. It is as silly as silly

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<v Speaker 1>could be, and yet it's still the characters are still serious,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's pretty cool. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that you know you're doing this role. It's such an

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<v Speaker 1>iconic role, you know. Originally of course for those that

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<v Speaker 1>don't know played by John Forsyth. How did that feel

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<v Speaker 1>stepping into that role and like, you know, not in

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<v Speaker 1>the shadow of him, but I can imagine you must

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<v Speaker 1>have put a lot of pressure on yourself to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you did admit it, like it was there

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<v Speaker 1>that you were playing this iconic role. Yeah. Well, so

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<v Speaker 1>first off, I had never seen Dynasty. So when I watched, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was auditioning for what, I watched what he

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<v Speaker 1>I watched some stuff, some of his scenes to see

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<v Speaker 1>what he did, and I was like, well, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. That's something that's he's different than me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna be able to do that. It's a totally

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a totally different animal than he is. So trying

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<v Speaker 1>to recreate what he did was not ever an issue.

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<v Speaker 1>But what he did do really well was he he

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't a good guy and he wasn't a bad guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He was vicious and he was awful and at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time he cared about his family and you know

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<v Speaker 1>all those kind of that sort of mixture. He wasn't

0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:56.920
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't an anti hero. He wasn't someone you loved

0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:00.600
<v Speaker 1>to hate. It just us like a person um I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's what was so great about which on force

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<v Speaker 1>I did and that I did have and still do

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<v Speaker 1>feel a lot of pressure to do that. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's a big it's a big role. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very The role is iconic, definitely, and I feel

0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 1>like it's such a cool, like like you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>said before, representation of your career, like you have you

0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:26.160
<v Speaker 1>have earned this role, Like that's you know what that's

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<v Speaker 1>I've never put it that way, but I do feel

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<v Speaker 1>I do, honestly feel like I have earned this role.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I went to go get it, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna let anybody else happen. You know. I went out

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<v Speaker 1>and bought a very expensive suit for the audition because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is my role and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to you know, Like, those are the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I did, All the things that you do when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you want, when you deny anyone else's opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>take this away from you. Yeah, that's so strong. What

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<v Speaker 1>that you you wanted something and you went out and

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<v Speaker 1>you got it. Yeah. I'm having a great time with

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<v Speaker 1>it too. I bet it's been going since you started

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand seventeen. So hello, congratulations than October and you

0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're I feel like you're going to stay

0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:13.600
<v Speaker 1>with it, and you did five years of Milor's Place.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like that this time. I'm gonna ride

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<v Speaker 1>this until it's dead. Your dad, Now you need a page. Well,

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:28.000
<v Speaker 1>people people all love it. People just love it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of feel like you are like that. If

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<v Speaker 1>you had a title, a silly title, you would be

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<v Speaker 1>like the golden child of Spelling entertainment. You are the

0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 1>guy he did. You know, Uncle Spelling was very very

0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:45.800
<v Speaker 1>good to me. At the same time. I had a

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:49.399
<v Speaker 1>very contentious relationship with him. You know, I was you know,

0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I was a young, cocky, bit of an asshole kind

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.879
<v Speaker 1>of guy, and he was, you know, going to be

0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:59.159
<v Speaker 1>in charge no matter what. You know. Remember you remember,

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you know he's did some things they weren't too nice

0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 1>to me, and I did some things that weren't too

0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 1>nice to him. But you know I cried when he died.

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean it's hard to separate business like that.

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.639
<v Speaker 1>You know, really great man, and you sound like you know,

0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.680
<v Speaker 1>you're a great person, so sometimes you gotta do what

0:23:18.720 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do. Though I it was too almost going

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.920
<v Speaker 1>at each other you know, yeah, I kind of get

0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that againd of get that, you know what. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna happen now? We're going to take a break

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<v Speaker 1>and then when we come back, we're gonna get into

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<v Speaker 1>the episode that we watched. Okay, Okay, hey everybody, Scott Patterson,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to have my loo vent Amelia on

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the podcast today and we are dropping the episode immediately.

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 1>We are very excited to have him. He's a he's

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<v Speaker 1>an old, dear friend, and he gave us. He gave

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<v Speaker 1>us some time, which is he doesn't have any time,

0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.280
<v Speaker 1>but he gave us some time, and we really really

0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.439
<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it. So we're gonna do this interview with

0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Milo uh and we're going to drop it immediately as

0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>soon as we can get it all cobbled together. This

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>crack team I have and we're just very very excited

0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>about it. So anyway, listen to my podcast I Am

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.639
<v Speaker 1>All In right now on I Heart Radio, app, Apple

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:27.119
<v Speaker 1>podcast and everywhere you listen to podcasts. Okay, So here's

0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the deal, Tori. Like I said, Tori and I were

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:33.600
<v Speaker 1>rewatching the show with the fans uh for the first time,

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>but we're really actually becoming fans ourselves. So it's been

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 1>a great ride morally. In season two, which season two, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in a few episodes I think is when Jake Hansen

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<v Speaker 1>makes his debut. But we're not to you yet, so

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:50.440
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna talk about you. We're gonna talk about

0:24:50.480 --> 0:24:56.720
<v Speaker 1>this episode. Okay, okay, okay, uh, Season two, episode one,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's talking about it. It aired February six, nineteen two,

0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:06.119
<v Speaker 1>and here's a little synopsis. Andrea is outraged when the

0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 1>school refuses to allow students to take part in a

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<v Speaker 1>health survey that includes questions about sex. It was directed

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:17.520
<v Speaker 1>by Daniel Addis and written by Darren Starr, Karen Rosen,

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and Charles Rosen. So this episode I mentioned was one

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:28.119
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite episodes for a lot of reasons. This

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:32.240
<v Speaker 1>episode is all about sex education, UM, and it was

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 1>very you know, timely topic, very like you said, a

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:44.640
<v Speaker 1>very special episode, very special nine two one, oh right.

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<v Speaker 1>Not all of them were like that. I was really

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:53.080
<v Speaker 1>impressed with um, with all y'alls acting on you were

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:58.440
<v Speaker 1>it really was. It's like not easy to be that earnest, Yeah,

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:04.159
<v Speaker 1>that earnest, and um not not look silly and you didn't.

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 1>You guys were great you know what, it's funny that

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 1>you say that, thank you. But and and I, as

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a person not in it, just watching it felt the

0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>very same way like I felt this episode was so

0:26:16.840 --> 0:26:22.920
<v Speaker 1>well written. Um, it was about really heavy subject matter

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that was sensitive, and there were a lot of emotions

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.240
<v Speaker 1>around it, and I felt like the stories were so

0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 1>well woven together so well, and the characters really everybody

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.640
<v Speaker 1>was kind of interwoven in a really interesting way. And

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like a you know, public service announcement. It

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like an after school special. It just felt like,

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, there was something about this, And I

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:49.639
<v Speaker 1>did feel like across the board, really good acting and

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:57.439
<v Speaker 1>bring yourself back this was it was around there. I

0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>think times were different, people weren't tal kind of about

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>stuff like this on television. This was really a lot

0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>more cutting edge then then it seems now, right absolutely,

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>because I mean the episode was about bringing condoms into schools,

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 1>about about sex education, about making condoms available to high

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 1>school students, and Andrea was trying to like, you know,

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>make that happen at West Beverly and the Parents Organization,

0:27:29.280 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 1>But it was also about each characters own journey with them,

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.600
<v Speaker 1>their own sexuality. And I think that's you know, right,

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.679
<v Speaker 1>who was talking about being a virgin in high school

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>and one you know, and and shame of being a

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>virgin in high school. I don't think people were no,

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and I and that that that was so What was

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 1>so cool about this episode two was that everyone's point

0:27:52.480 --> 0:27:55.959
<v Speaker 1>of view was really actually interesting and different. Like I

0:27:56.000 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>felt like Donna was telling a story, Andrea was telling

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a story, Kelly was telling a story, Brenda. Brenda was

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>telling a story. I felt like this was actually a

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 1>really um female driven episode and pretty powerful. Yeah, and

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Kelly just wanted to go shot. Kelly just wanted to

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:19.320
<v Speaker 1>avoid the topic at all costs because her sexuality I

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>think was talked about enough that she didn't feel like

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 1>she needed to add fuel to that fire. Yeah, but

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I I this was Catherine Cannon's first episode, who played

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Felice Martin, Donna's mom, and she was the one that was,

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of heading the whole parent or kind

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 1>of surprised at how many involvement of the of the

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 1>grown ups. I didn't realize that they were so involved

0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:52.280
<v Speaker 1>in your show. I guess thought it was you kids. Yeah,

0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes they were, sometimes they weren't but this episode had

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>a nice not what they weren't too heavy, but they

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 1>were just sort of like yeah, mm hmm um. But

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that was her first episode that they had had another

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>woman playing Donna's mom in earlier episodes, but this was

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:12.960
<v Speaker 1>the new fully fully smarten and we all disagrew to

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>really love her and she was such a pleasure to

0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>work with and so great, so great. So they had

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:23.440
<v Speaker 1>condoms available in other schools at that time, but I

0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 1>guess not at West Beverly, but I think that condoms

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>were a thing that were being you know, presented to

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 1>young people and passed out and it was all about

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>disease protection from AIDS and all the things and so

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>super important. It was like a big thing was called

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the Condom Availability Program, like the government you know, the

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 1>next and all about that they did they did. I

0:29:50.640 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like, um, we had you know, some learning to

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>do about how to talk about these sensitive subjects, you know,

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>in ways that teens could hear and and the way

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.479
<v Speaker 1>teens talked, but also that didn't like put off all

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>the parents. Because I think that this this episode really

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>pinpointed for me. One of the things that I always

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:16.600
<v Speaker 1>say about our show was that it really opened up

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the communication channels between parents and their kids. So everybody

0:30:22.480 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>was watching this show at this time, and the parents

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 1>were watching it to see what their kids were watching,

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of times the families were watching it

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:34.760
<v Speaker 1>together because you did that back then. And I feel

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>like I've always been told like this story. This episode

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>really helped me and I it helped me talk to

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>my daughter about sex, and you know, it really got

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>us having that discussion, you know, And now talking to

0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 1>fans that are older and that are parents now, they're

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they're saying that it really helped them talk to their parents.

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>So I feel really good about that. You know. Sometimes

0:30:57.720 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>it was a little heavy handed, but you know, just barely.

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>I think, I don't you know what was if it was,

0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>if you haven't handed at all. It's just the style

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>of shooting a show back then. That's what jarved me

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>more than anything else. Just styled just you know, dancing director.

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I remember, but it was terrific right whenever I worked

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>with him. But you look at it and it's just

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>like it's really old fashioned. It's so funny. You say

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>that because I was going to ask you that, because

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>you've directed episodes and you know, you know, what it

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>takes and what's expected of you, and they just hand

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 1>you this huge responsibility and say go. But they you

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.480
<v Speaker 1>can really see in this episode, like the filmmaking, the

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>way they set up the players, the actors in a

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>semicircle in front of the camera and everybody kind of

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>gets there. There's shots where Cason is standing kind of

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>like this. Yeah, and there's the only reason you would

0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>be standing like this to get into this. You be

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 1>in the shot. It's like, yeah, I think that the

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think maybe that was yeah, like the

0:32:07.000 --> 0:32:09.880
<v Speaker 1>style of directing back then. Yeah, No, I think it

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.440
<v Speaker 1>just was. It's also you know, we we we shot

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>on film back then, in one camera shooting film, and

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>it was expensive. You didn't have time to just mess

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>around when I shot My only only directed one episode.

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully they'll do some more this this year. But we

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>shot with three cameras. Oh my gosh. We would have

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 1>our a camera that is, you know, my certain hero shot,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm really looking for. But then I

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>would have a camera like the heck over there somewhere

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>getting just big white shot that I could cut away too,

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>and then maybe some off angle thing over here as well,

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and we just shoot and you just this episode a

0:32:49.320 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>big deal or you never call cut. You just kind

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>of just go, okay, let's go and do it again,

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, reset, do it again, reset, do it again.

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>It was just like you just nowadays you have so

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 1>much more freedom to just kind of play. Back then,

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>it was really structured. It was like a formula, and

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you as the director were expected to deliver the shots

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>that they required, you know, and they made it very

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>very clear, you have to do a master and then

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 1>we want singles, doubles over the shoulders and that's it.

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.680
<v Speaker 1>We don't want any like our sea stuff over over

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>single single, move on single single. Yeah, yeah, we sho

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>we shove to work at at Morrow's place and the

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>marks would be on the floor already. Back then that

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>would have bothered me, But now I kind of appreciate

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that and like, you know, just tell me where to stand,

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>what you want me to say, what you want me

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.280
<v Speaker 1>to wear. I'm good, let's go kind of kind of agree.

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know where I can see it anywhere?

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Ye back to back to episode Sorry we Digressed. Donna

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 1>I felt like had a great um sort of moment

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 1>in this episode. You know, she wasn't featured as strongly

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 1>in the earlier episodes, and her character starting to sort

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>of grow some great momentum with her like Mary not marriage,

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>relationship with David, and now with her whole point of

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>view kind of opposite of what her mom's point of

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>view about this sex subject, but at the same time

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>still maintaining her values which aren't dissimilar to her mom's.

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 1>But she doesn't like the way. I don't think she

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>likes the way her mom is presenting it to the

0:34:30.960 --> 0:34:34.640
<v Speaker 1>other kids. It came across as she was actually more

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 1>thoughtful about it then her mother. Her mother was just

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of rigid about it. This is the way it is,

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.880
<v Speaker 1>this is the way it needs to stay. And Donna

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>was more this is a choice that I've made and

0:34:45.400 --> 0:34:49.720
<v Speaker 1>that I'm going to stick with. That's really interesting because

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I um as a mom now of teens, I see

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.239
<v Speaker 1>that from a whole different perspective. You're not there yet,

0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 1>but we'll see you like you can as a teen,

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a parent of a team. You can't be black and white.

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 1>You can't be so rigid and expect certain things from

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>your kids. You have to be flexible and willing to

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:18.399
<v Speaker 1>let them guide you. Sometimes and really open your eyes

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to different ways of looking at things, And I think

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>that's really cool. Yeah, I'm terrified and looking for at

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 1>the same time. Yeah. My best has two daughters and

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>who are in their twenties now. When they were Eloise's age,

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>they were great, just the sweetest all the way up

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>until they were about twelve, and then they became monsters

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 1>about nineteen. I just terrified of that, I know. But

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, here's my here's my only words of

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>wisdom K give you on parenting. Don't say that again.

0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't say that ever again. Don't even think it

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:58.960
<v Speaker 1>because you're going to create it in the universe. No,

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I get you, and you know I always just not

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 1>She's not. She is a really at seven or eight.

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:09.919
<v Speaker 1>She's very thoughtful and she's very excuse me, she's very

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>sensitive to other people. That's good. Well, it could change it, could,

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, alter it will you know, show up in

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.360
<v Speaker 1>different shades. But even when she rolls her eyes at

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>you and sass is back at you, you know that

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that she's a bad girl. You know. It's

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>such a delicate thing. So um, I wanted to make

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>sure we say something about Kelly's journey on in this

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.719
<v Speaker 1>episode that we came out. It's just at the end

0:36:41.760 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of that last conversation. Is that something that is a

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you know that this idea that she was thought of

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>as easy is that? Was that a recurring theme with

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:57.319
<v Speaker 1>his character? Was it a constant theme with her? Yeah,

0:36:57.840 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>from came up or was it always know from the

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:04.360
<v Speaker 1>very beginning that was her role was the kind of

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>girl that slept around people thought that she slept around. Um,

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.480
<v Speaker 1>she was just very in the beginning, like you know,

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the bad girl, the bitch a Beverly Hills. And we

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>worked really hard through the years to get her those

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>layers of depth to see why she was the way

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>she was and and learn a lot about that kind

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of thing. And um, you're starting to really see the shades,

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 1>all the shades of Kelly and what her journey has

0:37:34.840 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>been now. And I think this is um one of

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:42.799
<v Speaker 1>my favorite scenes, that scene with Andrea and Kelly. Um,

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>it was there. Those two characters have such complete different

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>personalities and perspectives, but this was a cool coming together

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 1>of two different worlds, and I thought it was had

0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 1>had a big impact in Kelly, even as I think

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:04.319
<v Speaker 1>at the end of it like. Um, Andrea says, why

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I wish we had done this sooner or something, and

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Kelly or Kelly we could have met in the middle,

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 1>And Kelly says, I think we just did so I

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>thought that wasn't really interesting. Yeah it was. It was

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 1>for someone just watching this episode as a one off,

0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.959
<v Speaker 1>um with you know, kind of a tangential understanding of

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the show. Um, it was the very vulnerable moment for you. Yeah.

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:30.879
<v Speaker 1>I liked it. I liked it a lot, Like that's

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:37.280
<v Speaker 1>a scene that I think I'll be proud, proud of forever. Yeah. Um,

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you know something that you will probably appreciate. Because my

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 1>co host Tori doesn't claims to not ever notice this,

0:38:45.360 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>but I noticed it not just in my show or

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>our show, but in every show when there's a boom

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:54.920
<v Speaker 1>in the shot. Did you did you see any booms

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>when you were watching it? You didn't see any booms

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>in the whole episode. No, I don't don't see that

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. I should if I'm directing, but I don't.

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I will see it in my own in my own directing.

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Either someone else say there was a boom that shot,

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I didn't see it because I'm looking

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>at I'm looking at the people. I'm not looking at

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I'm watching the performances. I'm

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>not watching and as as a viewer, I'm watching the performances.

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not paying attention too much too So there was

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>a boom in that shot. There was a boom. No,

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.239
<v Speaker 1>not in that shot, but there. I do a thing

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 1>every week where I have a boom count. There were

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>at least at least two that I could see, and

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 1>in my internet connection was bad, so there might have

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.200
<v Speaker 1>been a lot more than two, but there was definitely two.

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>In fact, there was one scene in particular where the

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.879
<v Speaker 1>boom was basically in the whole scene, just banging out.

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:42.919
<v Speaker 1>The sushi scene when they're eating sushi. Yeah, remember when

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Kelly and David and their parents are having sushi and

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>they're sitting like on the floor. That scene, there's a

0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>little boom dangling at the top the whole time. You

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:54.640
<v Speaker 1>gotta go back and watch it now because you'll fly,

0:39:56.080 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'll just paint that stuff out. It's so

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 1>key to do um, to do uh you know, computer

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what do you call it? Yeah, it's so

0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.160
<v Speaker 1>cheap to do computer effects. Now they'll just paint it out.

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>They don't have that now. Yeah, you know what, that's funny.

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm working on a movie and I yesterday I heard

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:19.879
<v Speaker 1>the executive producer shouting out like it doesn't matter, we'll

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>paint it out. And then I heard and I was like,

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean? I don't understand that. And then

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:26.040
<v Speaker 1>later I heard her say, we don't want to be

0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>painting everything out so that, you know, we have to

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:30.280
<v Speaker 1>just get this right, and like it's a bit something

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>they think about. Now. Yeah, we had an actor who

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:36.919
<v Speaker 1>who had something. I don't know what happened to his eye,

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>but his whole eye, the white of his eye was

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>completely red. It wasn't paint eye. It was something he

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>like broke a blood vessel as I working out or

0:40:44.280 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>something crazy like that. It's whole I was red painted

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>it out every view. Could they grant? Could they paint

0:40:51.719 --> 0:41:00.919
<v Speaker 1>us out? Nah? So I don't really care. Maybe after

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>we're dead. I'm worried. I don't know. I'm worried. I

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:12.759
<v Speaker 1>feel it coming. So they haven't got it yet. Play

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 1>video game. You'll see now they don't have it yet.

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 1>There's something creepy about animated that's trying to look like

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>there's a name for it as well, where you with

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>something that's almost human and it's actually creepier than I

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.600
<v Speaker 1>hate it all. I don't like it. It freaks out.

0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Look right, everything just just we're we're good enough and

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:39.480
<v Speaker 1>recognizing ourselves that we're not. We're not. We're better at

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>recognizing ourselves than we are recreating ourselves. So right now

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 1>we're safe, thank god. Phew. Okay, what about the flush hangar,

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:51.839
<v Speaker 1>the cliffhanger? I don't remember the cliffhanger? Oh, the pregnancy,

0:41:52.560 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>My mom my momst Jackie Taylor comes in and says

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>she's pregnant. The whole episode is focused on teens and

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 1>pregnancy and being from using condoms. Then my mother walks

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.000
<v Speaker 1>in the room and says, I'm bringing it single. I'm good,

0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.600
<v Speaker 1>what's big deal? So what? She's not married, she's a

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:13.560
<v Speaker 1>recovering addict. She just met this guy. And this guy

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:17.319
<v Speaker 1>that she's dating is mel Silver, who is David on

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the show that the sort of dork character David. The

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Donna's boyfriend is David's father, David The Wait Donna's Brian

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 1>Austin Green's roll Brian Okay, yeah, yeaheah, Okay, it's only

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the really engine of that. So, yeah, Kelly hates it

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>that her mom is dating David's Okay, so it's a

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>big deal. It's a big cliffhanger moment. So you can watch. Yes,

0:42:42.680 --> 0:42:45.439
<v Speaker 1>we definitely do. So let's take a break and when

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>we come back, we will talk about fashion and best

0:42:50.760 --> 0:43:05.800
<v Speaker 1>lines from the show and maybe play a little game. Okay, alright,

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:09.040
<v Speaker 1>So Grant, are you like a fashion e star? You

0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:14.960
<v Speaker 1>into fashion? I had a feeling like the worst, the

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>worst about it, Like if I could just wear the

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 1>same shirt every single day, I would. Okay, I like that,

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I can I can see that. But so do you

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>do you like when you're working and you get dressed

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 1>up as characters and shows like do you like dressing?

0:43:30.760 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 1>And as other people? I used to hate hated I

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>hated it on the Rose Place tasty because I don't

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 1>have any awareness of it and I don't have any

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:39.919
<v Speaker 1>skill at it. So it's like something that you're bad

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>at is always really you know, it's just difficult. It's

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.040
<v Speaker 1>not your thing and you don't and you don't care

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>about it. I don't care about it, And then that

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 1>and because I'm not because I'm not caring because I

0:43:49.920 --> 0:43:51.360
<v Speaker 1>don't care about it. Because I don't care about it,

0:43:51.400 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not good at because I'm not good at it,

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:54.480
<v Speaker 1>I have an a version to it and I don't

0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 1>care about it. It's like what we were talking about before.

0:43:56.880 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>If you don't have passion for something, exactly into it more,

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I might actually like it. Well, I respect it, or

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I kind of been right there with you, to be honest. Well,

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 1>when I did Swing Town, which was a show set

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 1>in the seventies and it was all kind of discoee

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it was all about that kind of

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>glossy world, I really became a lot more aware of

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:25.360
<v Speaker 1>its impact. And I have a lot more respect for

0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:27.799
<v Speaker 1>it now and I spend a lot more time with

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it now with Blake than I would have in the past.

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know Blake like I do. Like with

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:41.880
<v Speaker 1>Blake's cloth, I let them kind of go through and

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:43.719
<v Speaker 1>pull a bunch of stuff and then when I and

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>then I can just gonna go through the It's all

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:49.360
<v Speaker 1>good stuff, so I can't make a mistake. And I'm

0:44:49.480 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>very meticulous about how how he dresses himself, as you

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>should be. I think I think it's super important and

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>you're right, like I wasn't as aware of it either.

0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>When I was younger, I didn't appreciate the costume designer

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:05.880
<v Speaker 1>or there, you know, vision like the character, like his characters.

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I've decided that like my Blake is um pretty much

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:17.320
<v Speaker 1>a narcissist and um pompous because he just is meticulous

0:45:17.320 --> 0:45:20.359
<v Speaker 1>about how he looks, and you know, like his hair

0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>is high and his and his tie is always perfect,

0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.719
<v Speaker 1>and his cuffs are perfect and everything hangs exactly right,

0:45:26.760 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's fitted, really fitted, and he gets a haircut

0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.799
<v Speaker 1>every single week. And you know, it's like he's that

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:35.800
<v Speaker 1>person he you know, gets manicures. He cares about his appearance.

0:45:35.840 --> 0:45:39.160
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, but it's for It's

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>not just it's not for it's for him. It's for himself.

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:46.560
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's well, yes, he knows that this is

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>what people see and and it sells, and and it's

0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>he thinks that he's worth it and he needs other

0:45:54.320 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 1>people that never at least worth it too. He is

0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:02.280
<v Speaker 1>worth it, damn it. Yeah. You don't really really appreciate

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 1>fashion until you work with a great costume designer. And

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>recently I worked with Mandy Line, who did b H

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:13.239
<v Speaker 1>nine or two one oh for us, and she was

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>she was so incredible and just her you know, her

0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.960
<v Speaker 1>vision and her passion for it was contagious and it

0:46:19.040 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>really really changed my sort of perspective. So, but was

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:27.160
<v Speaker 1>there Did you happen to maybe have like a favorite

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>fashion moment from this episode, like something that stood out

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to you that represented the nineties or that you hated

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:41.680
<v Speaker 1>or loved. Yeah, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan was wearing a shirt.

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 1>That's that really stood out to me. Dylan, Wait, I

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:49.800
<v Speaker 1>get the characters right, yes, Jason right? No, Brandon Brandon,

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Jason Brandon was wearing a shirt. Dylan was all kinds

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 1>of like stuff that was so nighty, and Brandon was

0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.919
<v Speaker 1>wearing this shirt with like almost Paisley dots. They weren't paid,

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but they were like, oh my gosh, that was so subtle,

0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and it really irritated you know, didn't irritate me that

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I just noticed it. Liked it. Remember when we used

0:47:11.600 --> 0:47:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to wear stuff like that and then and then brand No,

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:19.879
<v Speaker 1>Dylan was wearing all kinds of like, you know, bad

0:47:19.920 --> 0:47:24.399
<v Speaker 1>boy clothes. Yeah, nineties bad boy. It's funny that that

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:28.239
<v Speaker 1>shirt stood out to you because you know, notoriously like

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>David's character and Steve. Steve's character always wore crazy clothes,

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 1>so this episode, David was wearing like the ad must

0:47:35.760 --> 0:47:40.800
<v Speaker 1>insane polka dotted black man blouse. Yeah, somebody was. Somebody

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 1>also had a a plaid, big billowy plaid shirt tucked

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:51.239
<v Speaker 1>into kind of billowy pants. Chief. I want to go

0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>to Steve's characters like it. Oh gosh, it's so good

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the fashion though. Okay, so uh. In honor of our

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:04.200
<v Speaker 1>amazing writers, we like to kind of quote um. Our

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:07.520
<v Speaker 1>favorite line from each episode show was, did you have

0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:13.400
<v Speaker 1>a favorite line from want to go Shopping? That's Kelly's

0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:16.360
<v Speaker 1>answer to everything. Yeah, that's who has to go shopping?

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I remember exactly what it was was. It was either

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>can we just go shopping? Do you don't you want

0:48:20.040 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 1>to just go? What? Do you remember what it was? Yeah,

0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.600
<v Speaker 1>let's go talk about sex anymore? Can we just go shopping?

0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 1>And then she just says something something, and then Kelly says, well,

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>what it's good for the economy? Yeah right, she's right,

0:48:33.480 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>just doing her part. I loved okay. Well, another one

0:48:39.920 --> 0:48:43.160
<v Speaker 1>of Kelly's ones manby laugh was um when she's talking

0:48:43.440 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 1>to Brenda in the Hallway about her mom who her

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.359
<v Speaker 1>mom's dating, and her mom's dating a dentist, and she says,

0:48:51.600 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>whose idea of a good time is a gun massage?

0:48:57.040 --> 0:49:01.839
<v Speaker 1>I missed the actual massage part, like I didn't hear

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 1>it for some reason. I just heard he's a dentist.

0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I heard whose idea of a good time is blank? Well,

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 1>he's a dentist. So I had to try to fill

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>in myself, and gun massage is one of the things

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I came up with. So really, wow, I don't I

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:22.000
<v Speaker 1>don't think they exist? Do That is what is a

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:27.279
<v Speaker 1>gum massage? Doesn't Have you ever gotten a gum massage from?

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>Have someone tried to have pushed them away? No? Thank you,

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Another really cool line from this episode which

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:41.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people remember, and I would be remiss

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 1>not to mention it was a line from Donna and

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:48.359
<v Speaker 1>she says, it's a long one to brace yourself. If

0:49:48.360 --> 0:49:51.279
<v Speaker 1>you have swimming pool in your backyard, you can tell

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:53.920
<v Speaker 1>your children not to go in it, You can even

0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 1>build a fence around it. But if you know that

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.560
<v Speaker 1>they're going to find a way into that water, don't

0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>you ink that you ought to teach the kids how

0:50:02.239 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 1>to swim well and you know, like, yeah, that's probably

0:50:06.440 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 1>the best line in the in the in the movie,

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:11.240
<v Speaker 1>in the in the episode, it's like so very true

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 1>and very obvious. It's kind of the whole sums it

0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>all up. Yes it fits, and you can't really deny it, no,

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:23.040
<v Speaker 1>because it really was. There was a lot there's a

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of good stuff in this episode, but this now

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:28.920
<v Speaker 1>is the part of the show that always kind of

0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:32.759
<v Speaker 1>makes me cringe a little. Uh. We asked everyone, all

0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>of our guests to play like a little rapid fire

0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:38.439
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing. Oh no, I'm gonna fail. You saw

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:40.319
<v Speaker 1>my memories terrible. I was hit on the head as

0:50:40.320 --> 0:50:42.319
<v Speaker 1>a child. It's really really true. This is true. It

0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.439
<v Speaker 1>was in a coma. They thought I was gonna die.

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 1>And my memory is as bad as memory can be.

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:50.960
<v Speaker 1>But go ahead. Oh no, no, no, I can't know.

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about your your head injury. That's it.

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I told you. That's the story you got. But what

0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:00.480
<v Speaker 1>hit you in the head? I felt it was OK,

0:51:00.600 --> 0:51:02.600
<v Speaker 1>you get it. It It was probably nineteen let's say it

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>was eight years old, was nineteen seventy. I had a shirt.

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I remember the shirt I was wearing. It was purple

0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 1>with white doves on it, little white doves all over it,

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:13.320
<v Speaker 1>and it was puffy sleeve. And I was out playing

0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 1>with the kids were it was dust and we were

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 1>running and I got ahead of myself and fell forward.

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:22.560
<v Speaker 1>You know kids do sometimes they run faster than they

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:24.720
<v Speaker 1>can run. They get ahead of themselves, and I fell forward.

0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:27.239
<v Speaker 1>And I believe what happened is when I went to

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:30.120
<v Speaker 1>put my hand out, I stepped on my sleeve. My

0:51:30.200 --> 0:51:35.120
<v Speaker 1>next one what came in step. So I took the

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:39.319
<v Speaker 1>fall with my forehead and you hit it right back here.

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 1>My skull broke back. Um. And anyway, when they took

0:51:43.760 --> 0:51:45.480
<v Speaker 1>me to the as they were taking me to the hospital,

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 1>I went into a coma and they didn't know what

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:48.719
<v Speaker 1>was wrong with me. I couldn't figure it out. They

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't have m rs back then, they didn't know. And

0:51:50.920 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 1>it was several days before a specialist came in and

0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:56.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of figured out what had happened. And they thought

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 1>that one of my friends had given me drugs. They

0:51:58.200 --> 0:51:59.839
<v Speaker 1>were like it was they were all over the map.

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea. That is insane, your poor mom,

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I know. And part of the part of part of

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:11.399
<v Speaker 1>when I was in the coma, which wasn't I guess

0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:13.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't really time with your comma. I went into like

0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 1>this other place where I was violent and I was

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 1>punching and yelling and calling people horrible names and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just been terrified. They thought I was going to die. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure glad you didn't, cheese, and look at you now,

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<v Speaker 1>like you should go see my doctor, doctor Amon and

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<v Speaker 1>get your brain scanned. I would love to do that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna set it up to your gran. I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>He does this great thing. He's in l A and

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<v Speaker 1>he does this great thing called scan my Brain. He

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<v Speaker 1>has people come in and you can do it privately

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<v Speaker 1>or you can do it on his program Scan my Brain.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is fascinating and he will see what the

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<v Speaker 1>impact of that injury had on your brain and how

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<v Speaker 1>that's affecting you now. But then what if he takes

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<v Speaker 1>away my excuse from my bad memory. Maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm just you know exactly, well, he'll he'll solidify

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<v Speaker 1>that and then you can still use that excuse, because

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<v Speaker 1>I still use my excuse of my bad memory that

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<v Speaker 1>I got run over by jet Ski. So did you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And I had my brain skin and he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see your conuction and I can see the

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<v Speaker 1>impact of it, and he can and he can see

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<v Speaker 1>the brain activity in your brain and where like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're concussion was bad enough, there will be a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of blood flow in your brain and a lack of

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<v Speaker 1>activity which will really inhibit so many things, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>in your frontal look back like you know, super super

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<v Speaker 1>fascinating brain health. I'm going to give you his contact later,

0:53:44.760 --> 0:53:46.759
<v Speaker 1>which I don't know, no idea when that's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely want to see him, definitely, Yes you should. Okay, um, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>rapid fire. Okay, who is your favorite character from Beverly

0:53:55.719 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Hills nine or two one? Now? Brandon Brandon? Great answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Since Kelly didn't end up on Team Jake, who should

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:08.400
<v Speaker 1>she have ended up with Team Brandon or Team Dylan.

0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Dylan is more her her guy. Yeah,

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you'd be surprised. There's quite a divide out there on

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<v Speaker 1>this subject. Yeah, people are Team Brandon or Team Dylan.

0:54:23.640 --> 0:54:26.839
<v Speaker 1>So you were killing good to know, Okay, but Jake

0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:29.680
<v Speaker 1>made him. It was Jake. Jake should have like, but

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you were too young for Jake too. So there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>nowadays you'd probably go to jail. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be and jo. Um. Okay. The last question I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask you is, uh, that's the worst one.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready kissed Mary or kicked to the curb? Would who

0:54:50.640 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 1>would you marry? And who would you give the he

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<v Speaker 1>ho to? Of the three women on the show, of

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:00.840
<v Speaker 1>any of the people you could be man, whatever is

0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 1>your thing? Whatever? Wow, that makes a little character character. Well, um,

0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember everyone's name. That's okay, I'll help you. Okay, Um,

0:55:14.480 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>give me the girl's names again. Just Kelly, Donna, and

0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Kelly Donna, Brenda, Brenda Andrea. So Mary Andrea, Mary, Kelly

0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:39.880
<v Speaker 1>kiss not Andrea, not on Brenda and kicked to the

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<v Speaker 1>curb Steve. Okay, good, but you see you did so good?

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know what I mean. I was on the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm up with something. I love everything, Grant.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been so much fun hanging out with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've really, I genuine only enjoyed our conversations. Me too,

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<v Speaker 1>I really did so when this when I saw the email,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, great, I get to apologize. That's the first

0:56:10.520 --> 0:56:15.000
<v Speaker 1>thing I thought, and then Secondly, UM think tonight, I'm

0:56:15.040 --> 0:56:18.279
<v Speaker 1>not worrying about it anymore. I forgive you right, you

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 1>can tick that off around. But I really enjoyed Um

0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 1>talking to me. I think this is more than we've

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 1>ever spoken to each other ever, and I really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Well good, I'm so glad. Thank you. Thank

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you from the bottom of my heart for coming on

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 1>and being my co host. Thank you for inviting me.

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<v Speaker 1>So everyone out there be sure to watch Grant's amazing

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:46.120
<v Speaker 1>show Dynasty. It's uh Friday nights on the c W.

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Is that right? That's right? Or Netflix? Love it? Everyone,

0:56:51.840 --> 0:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>here's your homework. Watch next week's episode, Um what is It?

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<v Speaker 1>Season two, episode twenty two, Baby makes five A right? Everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>go out and have a good week. Bye.