Speaker 1: It's nine with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey everyone,
Speaker 1: it's me Jenny Garth. Welcome to another episode of nine
Speaker 1: o two on omg Uh. Today I am flying so
Speaker 1: low ish, I guess well without my usual co host
Speaker 1: Tory and Sissany, but I do have a dazzling co
Speaker 1: host with me today. I'm very excited about this. You
Speaker 1: you may remember him from his steamy role as Jake
Speaker 1: Hanson on Beverly Hills nine o two on Oh, Grant
Speaker 1: Show is with me today. Let's bring him in. H Hey, Grant,
Speaker 1: are you good? How are you? I'm good. I have
Speaker 1: to apologize for you because last time I saw you
Speaker 1: ten or fifteen years ago, whenever it was, I kind
Speaker 1: of was rude Tina and I apologize. Wait wait, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't even remember, Thank god, no, I remember. Let's
Speaker 1: get into this because when when we were talking about
Speaker 1: co host um, they said Grant shower and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. And then I had this like
Speaker 1: feeling in the back of my mind like I don't
Speaker 1: know if we had a good experience last time we
Speaker 1: saw each other. I couldn't really remember specifically what was
Speaker 1: just like I like I was like, how I wanted
Speaker 1: to see you, and I think you came. I asked.
Speaker 1: It was like, and I saw you, and then I
Speaker 1: think maybe someone went and asked you to come over,
Speaker 1: or you came over. I don't remember why, but like
Speaker 1: I like like I looked at reached out for you,
Speaker 1: and then you made an effort. And then as soon
Speaker 1: as you made the effort, I saw right behind you
Speaker 1: like slot it off like a butterfly flower and I
Speaker 1: was rude And I'm just super sorry. I first of all,
Speaker 1: your apology accepted. Second of all, I didn't know specifically
Speaker 1: what it wasn't that is like the classic like this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know it was terrible before apparently it happened in
Speaker 1: my real life. Wow, well that's hilarious. Well, nevertheless, I
Speaker 1: felt bad about it ever seen. Oh look at you
Speaker 1: let it go like short, like right after I tried
Speaker 1: that ninety I realized what I had done. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just was like so rude, and
Speaker 1: I tried to find you, but you by the time
Speaker 1: I couldn't find you. And then you know, you know what,
Speaker 1: that just shows that you are a super self aware
Speaker 1: of person, and that is a really important quality. Not
Speaker 1: right in that moment. I wasn't not in that moment,
Speaker 1: but like you, but you know, sometimes it takes a minute.
Speaker 1: So um, this is like a like a Jake and
Speaker 1: Kelly reunion. Yeah right, I don't remember anything about that.
Speaker 1: Hold like you remember that, but you you won't. You
Speaker 1: can't remember our episode? Well, I vaguely remember it was
Speaker 1: two episodes. I remember building a gazebo. Yes, two episodes
Speaker 1: in season two. And you were like the carpenter right
Speaker 1: that my mom hired right in the backyard Dylan's or
Speaker 1: from Dylan's past or oh interesting, remember that either? See
Speaker 1: I remember that part and I were from the same
Speaker 1: part of the war. I think we were both from
Speaker 1: the the Northwest, from like Oregon or someplace like that,
Speaker 1: and we both had similar backgrounds. Ah, well, I don't
Speaker 1: remember that now. I do remember we had a couple
Speaker 1: of really steamy makeout sessions. Remember that, Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 1: I also remember when I got I've never seen the show,
Speaker 1: when I was cast and then I found out that
Speaker 1: I was going to be working with. Um what was
Speaker 1: your characterst name? Okay, you're a really funny or be
Speaker 1: you're crazy? Um Kelly, Kelly, you were serious. You didn't
Speaker 1: remember it. I did not remember, my goodness, and I
Speaker 1: was staying on the head as a child. So when
Speaker 1: I found out that I was going to be working
Speaker 1: with Kelly, I was like, Okay, well I need to
Speaker 1: find out which of these ladies it is, which these
Speaker 1: women it is? And I was very pleased that it
Speaker 1: was you. Good. I'm glad. How have you been? I've
Speaker 1: been super I mean, life is a crazy ride, isn't it.
Speaker 1: You Mr have been You've had such an amazing career.
Speaker 1: I was doing a little research on you last night,
Speaker 1: and you have just done so many shows. You you
Speaker 1: started out on started out in soaps, right, so you
Speaker 1: were in daytime And that's when I met um. Um
Speaker 1: Luke and I were on shows. He was Unloving and
Speaker 1: I was on Ryan's Hope. And then we shot in
Speaker 1: the same building, kind of across the hall from each other.
Speaker 1: So we he and I went back like to the
Speaker 1: very very beginnings of a career. We dated the same woman.
Speaker 1: We like that career is just a lie. Just kind
Speaker 1: of kept passing this like this, just like this. It
Speaker 1: was so nice to have um reconnected with him fairly
Speaker 1: recently before he passed. Yeah, that's nice though. He was
Speaker 1: a good friend. He was a good guy anyway. Anyway, Right,
Speaker 1: So you started on Daytime and then I just find
Speaker 1: your story really interesting. Um. Then Aaron Spelling kind of
Speaker 1: plucked you and put you in Primetime. It was love Boat.
Speaker 1: What did you do love Boat? Right after? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did love Boat, um, while I was still on the
Speaker 1: daytime show. And then when I finished my contract there,
Speaker 1: I went to London for a year, and when I
Speaker 1: came back, I believe I did. Yeah, I did a
Speaker 1: little bit of theater out of New York. Then I
Speaker 1: just kind of kept getting gigs in l A. And
Speaker 1: so I go to l A and I'd worked and
Speaker 1: to come back to New York and spend all my
Speaker 1: money because it was so expensive to live out there.
Speaker 1: And then when I just decided to move out to
Speaker 1: l A. And it wasn't it was a while before, um,
Speaker 1: before melrose Place happened, before I met you guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was probably ten years after I started working. Okay,
Speaker 1: So melrose Place. Okay, did you know when you started
Speaker 1: out as Jake Hanson that you would be getting your
Speaker 1: own spin off? Like, I mean, that's a pretty big deal.
Speaker 1: So you knew, I knew that they were using this
Speaker 1: character's sprameboard a new show. I mean, that's a that's huge. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I knew it was a big deal. I was I
Speaker 1: was reading for Melrose Place, not nine o two and
Speaker 1: no Ah. Then they told me that the way they
Speaker 1: wanted to introduce the show was through my character on
Speaker 1: your show. Yeah. I loved it, And I loved that
Speaker 1: my character was like a crossover sort of. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. Like I just watched the episode that
Speaker 1: they told me to watch for you take good Good.
Speaker 1: You did your homework so difficult. Um, and there's such
Speaker 1: different shows, like I've forgotten how kind of it's a
Speaker 1: very special man to know the show was this episode
Speaker 1: though in particular. But yeah, this episode, you got a
Speaker 1: really great episode to watch because we'll get into it later,
Speaker 1: but this is definitely my favorite episode by far for
Speaker 1: so many reasons. Well one of you know, so far,
Speaker 1: I'm only in season two, so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: What are you doing. You're going through and watching an episode?
Speaker 1: Do you do this every day? No, we do it
Speaker 1: once a week. And we're Tory and I are going
Speaker 1: uh and watching the original show for the very first
Speaker 1: time because while we were on it, we never really
Speaker 1: watched it. So we are watching every episode in succession,
Speaker 1: and um, we're just becoming complete fans of the show.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you watch you when when you first did it?
Speaker 1: We're busy working and trying to figure out how to
Speaker 1: juggle everything, like there was no television in my life
Speaker 1: at that time. Yeah, well, because you're that you know,
Speaker 1: Melbourne's Place really lifted off kind of the same time
Speaker 1: as nine or two or no, Like we both kind
Speaker 1: of shot out the same time you guys a couple
Speaker 1: of years before us, and I don't think we have
Speaker 1: a really we didn't have a really reach kind of
Speaker 1: like crazy level that you guys reached to me. We
Speaker 1: were it was a big deal, but we didn't have
Speaker 1: like people. People weren't hunting me down, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Well, I mean it wasn't It wasn't really huge.
Speaker 1: How did you feel about that, Like, how did you
Speaker 1: handle that sort of sudden thing because you kind of
Speaker 1: shot to start them in that moment with the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I knew that it was possible when I
Speaker 1: took the job. I was like, there's a really good
Speaker 1: chance that this is going to be a big show, um,
Speaker 1: And I said to myself, you know, you keep your
Speaker 1: feet on the ground. It's really, you know, easy to
Speaker 1: get um lured into. No, not just really bad behavior,
Speaker 1: but just sort of a skewed vision of yourself. And
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, even warning myself and being ready
Speaker 1: for it and having my guard up, I look back
Speaker 1: on him like now, it still messed me up. It
Speaker 1: just I don't know that there's anything anyone can do.
Speaker 1: You know, there's no rule book, there's no guide book,
Speaker 1: there's no manual, there's no you know, nobody really you know,
Speaker 1: nobody can even really give you advice because everyone's journey
Speaker 1: is different and you just kind of have to figure
Speaker 1: it out, you know, because life really But you know,
Speaker 1: did you have like a solid like um support system,
Speaker 1: Like did you have your parents? Did you have family
Speaker 1: around you at all during that time? I had some
Speaker 1: good friends. I did, And like I said, I would
Speaker 1: say I probably, well, I would say probably, I say
Speaker 1: I would say I lost my wife for a little
Speaker 1: while horribly, you know what I mean. I didn't, you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't didn't go off the rails. No, but they're
Speaker 1: not proudly of some of my behavior. Yeah, what about you?
Speaker 1: How did you do it? Me? It was all about
Speaker 1: I have families still around me. I had parents that
Speaker 1: were still a part of my life. I had um
Speaker 1: my sisters in Illinois and from the Midwest, you know
Speaker 1: that I had. I relied a lot on my family
Speaker 1: during that time, and I coupled up like I had
Speaker 1: one boyfriend or one husband for the duration, you know,
Speaker 1: like a one person, one partner. So that really Also,
Speaker 1: I wasn't out there like a bar is trying to
Speaker 1: meet people or using my status to you know, do that.
Speaker 1: So I think that's how I survived, honestly, right, you
Speaker 1: were You were very young too, weren't. You're probably ten
Speaker 1: years younger me, are you? Yeah? I think so. I
Speaker 1: was about sixteen seventeen. Yeah, when I worked with you,
Speaker 1: I was probably eighteen. Okay, yeah, I was thirty. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was like seventeen. So basically you were. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was against the all what was happening, right? Wow? For
Speaker 1: that to survive that good for you. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's not easy for sure, but we live really wonderful
Speaker 1: lives because of it. And if you are, like I
Speaker 1: said before, have any self awareness or sort of have
Speaker 1: grown at all as the human are evolved. You know,
Speaker 1: you sort of can stop and look back and do
Speaker 1: what you just did, which is like, you know, be
Speaker 1: accountable and and talk about it, like not be ashamed
Speaker 1: of it and not try to hide it or you know,
Speaker 1: I think that's really cool. Yeah, well run your face
Speaker 1: all the time, you know what I mean when you
Speaker 1: look in the mirror, there you are exactly exactly now
Speaker 1: you have, um, you have a family, now, is that correct?
Speaker 1: I mean your kids and are they older? Are they? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I started really young. I started when I was My
Speaker 1: girls are older now fifteen, eighteen, and twenty four. Wow
Speaker 1: of a seven year old seven year old daughter? Right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. It changes you. I think it's so much.
Speaker 1: It's just the greatest thing ever. It really is. It's
Speaker 1: maybe that's part of it, Like it like it takes
Speaker 1: your focus off of you and put it on some
Speaker 1: other being. Well, I think you it's like to be
Speaker 1: a parent, you can't you have to be of service, right,
Speaker 1: So you have to be so you can't if you're
Speaker 1: a good parent. Yeah, if you're a parent, your person
Speaker 1: hanging out around it not be of service. But you're
Speaker 1: not parent then um, but yeah, it just takes so
Speaker 1: much um, being of service and then I think you
Speaker 1: for me anyway, I learned that being of service. It's
Speaker 1: like when you put effort into anything, it becomes more valuable.
Speaker 1: And that effort of being you know, taking care of
Speaker 1: it sounds really this sounds undersoid to sell that before,
Speaker 1: So I don't know, it sounds a lot kind of
Speaker 1: thinner than I think it is. Um. They just there,
Speaker 1: your passion grows work for it. The more effort you
Speaker 1: put in, the more work you put in, the more
Speaker 1: of service you are towards something, the more your passion
Speaker 1: is for it, and the more joy you take out
Speaker 1: of the service that you give. That's what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. That is very beautifully said and so so true.
Speaker 1: I think that applies to like anything like yeah, yeah, parenting,
Speaker 1: your career, your relationships, your relationship with yourself, so many things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really cool. Well, so back to some little some
Speaker 1: of some more fanning out on my part of you
Speaker 1: in your career. So you have many episodes were you
Speaker 1: on More Rist Place. We did thirty four a year
Speaker 1: and I did five years. Uh, and then you and
Speaker 1: a few of the other cast members left the show
Speaker 1: at a certain point right I left. We all have
Speaker 1: five year contracts and I left contractors, do you ever
Speaker 1: like I think like I wish I had done it differently,
Speaker 1: I wish I hadn't left, or I'm really glad, Like
Speaker 1: how how do you feel about it now? I think
Speaker 1: I'm glad I left. Um, you know, I never got
Speaker 1: the cash in because, as you know, Aaron doesn't pay
Speaker 1: very well for your first deal, you think the beginning, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I never I never had I never got a raise.
Speaker 1: I never renegotiate anything. My five year deal was my
Speaker 1: five year deal. Um, so I would be a lot
Speaker 1: more secure. My financial security would be greater right now.
Speaker 1: But I never you say I've not a lot of
Speaker 1: TV shows. I have not a lot of TV shows.
Speaker 1: But I've never been interested in money, so I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of money. I mean, I'm comfortable, but
Speaker 1: I'm not like you know, I don't have twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars in the bank like like you might think I
Speaker 1: would have if you look at the career I had,
Speaker 1: right that has never been my focus. And so yes,
Speaker 1: if I had stayed on for another year or two,
Speaker 1: you know that would have paid me probably you know,
Speaker 1: six million dollars or something like that. Something in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood of that. Um, whoa, you're getting paid a lot
Speaker 1: more than me. The negotiation, I figured thirty two episodes.
Speaker 1: If you got a hundred grand a year, right, that's
Speaker 1: probably what I could have got an episode. An episode, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: which is insane. Hello, if you just think about what
Speaker 1: you just said, you made a hundred thousand years, I
Speaker 1: think I probably could have gotten that could have for
Speaker 1: working for seven days. Yeah yeah, break that down. I
Speaker 1: want to know what that is hourly. Haven't you ever
Speaker 1: done episode? We did? We had one line? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I'm here and I'm getting paid and I'm saying three words,
Speaker 1: I love my job. It's like thirty thousand dollars of work. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. But listen, I never made that kind of money.
Speaker 1: If I had gone down that I might have been
Speaker 1: able to get, you know what I mean. So let's
Speaker 1: say it was four million dollars. But you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, okay, so you have four million
Speaker 1: dollars in the bank, really two million because the government
Speaker 1: takes half of Italy see two million dollars in the bank.
Speaker 1: At the time, I felt like people that stayed on
Speaker 1: the show passed their initial contract, that was kind of
Speaker 1: the end of their career. And historically that kind of
Speaker 1: was true. You know, when there was three networks and
Speaker 1: you know people thirty million people watched an episode of
Speaker 1: something you got stuck in that role during our time
Speaker 1: on our show, on two Your Time and on by Time,
Speaker 1: My Morrow's Place. That started to change, and it has
Speaker 1: become clear that that does isn't the case that more
Speaker 1: can move on. You can't have a bigger and longer
Speaker 1: career even if you stay on your show. So my
Speaker 1: reason for doing it, it turned out not to be true.
Speaker 1: But at the time, I didn't know that I made
Speaker 1: the best choice that I could at the time, and
Speaker 1: I think it was the right choice given the information
Speaker 1: I had, So I don't at all. You weren't alone.
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of actors had that perspective.
Speaker 1: I personally didn't. I just I didn't think it. I'm
Speaker 1: not a gold personally, I don't think ahead, So I
Speaker 1: didn't think to make a change, like it didn't occur
Speaker 1: to me. But there were people around me, like Jason
Speaker 1: Luke and Uh. They wanted to go do other things,
Speaker 1: you know, and they thought if they stayed doing the show,
Speaker 1: they would never ever get to work anywhere else again
Speaker 1: because people would never see them as anything other than
Speaker 1: Brandon and Dylan. So totally you were you weren't alone
Speaker 1: in that. And by the way, it took years before
Speaker 1: well has you know, every time I walk into a room,
Speaker 1: Jake Canson was there with me, you know, for quite
Speaker 1: a few years. And finally I realized the reason we
Speaker 1: Canson was in the room every time I walked in
Speaker 1: because I was bringing it in with me. And you know,
Speaker 1: when I foundly let myself get away from that, then
Speaker 1: I was able to get away from it. But that
Speaker 1: it takes a while, whether however it's happening, It takes
Speaker 1: a while for you to kind of like cleanse yourself
Speaker 1: from something that's that that's that integrated, like it's part
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, that's it was a huge part of time,
Speaker 1: right because your show, our show, they were they had
Speaker 1: such a big impact on so many people during a
Speaker 1: very specific time, you know, and and the fans of
Speaker 1: our show and your show and other shows, but they
Speaker 1: are just so devoted and so like invested in these characters.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what made our shows success. People
Speaker 1: still recognize me from from Mo's Place. Really, like when
Speaker 1: you get recognized most is it mostly now? It's real
Speaker 1: g some melogh now it's missing a bunch of different things.
Speaker 1: Swing down Dynasty Dynasty mostly now because that's what's on
Speaker 1: right now town and yeah most Place. So yeah, you
Speaker 1: is kind of full circle for because you kind of
Speaker 1: started out with Aaron Spelling and now you're on Spelling Dynasty.
Speaker 1: When it came across my desk, I was like my
Speaker 1: desk when I when I got the audition, was like,
Speaker 1: do you have a desk? Exactly? I don't. I was
Speaker 1: rolling my eyes and myself when I got the audition,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh well, I'm like, I've had a
Speaker 1: in thirty years of a career that sets me up,
Speaker 1: tease me up perfectly for this job. It's not, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It is exactly what it should be. It doesn't take
Speaker 1: itself seriously at all. It is as silly as silly
Speaker 1: could be, and yet it's still the characters are still serious,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's pretty cool. I think
Speaker 1: that you know you're doing this role. It's such an
Speaker 1: iconic role, you know. Originally of course for those that
Speaker 1: don't know played by John Forsyth. How did that feel
Speaker 1: stepping into that role and like, you know, not in
Speaker 1: the shadow of him, but I can imagine you must
Speaker 1: have put a lot of pressure on yourself to you know,
Speaker 1: even if you did admit it, like it was there
Speaker 1: that you were playing this iconic role. Yeah. Well, so
Speaker 1: first off, I had never seen Dynasty. So when I watched, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I was auditioning for what, I watched what he
Speaker 1: I watched some stuff, some of his scenes to see
Speaker 1: what he did, and I was like, well, I can't
Speaker 1: do that. That's something that's he's different than me. I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna be able to do that. It's a totally
Speaker 1: I'm a totally different animal than he is. So trying
Speaker 1: to recreate what he did was not ever an issue.
Speaker 1: But what he did do really well was he he
Speaker 1: He wasn't a good guy and he wasn't a bad guy.
Speaker 1: He was vicious and he was awful and at the
Speaker 1: same time he cared about his family and you know
Speaker 1: all those kind of that sort of mixture. He wasn't
Speaker 1: he wasn't an anti hero. He wasn't someone you loved
Speaker 1: to hate. It just us like a person um I
Speaker 1: think it's what was so great about which on force
Speaker 1: I did and that I did have and still do
Speaker 1: feel a lot of pressure to do that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's a big it's a big role. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very The role is iconic, definitely, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it's such a cool, like like you kind of
Speaker 1: said before, representation of your career, like you have you
Speaker 1: have earned this role, Like that's you know what that's
Speaker 1: I've never put it that way, but I do feel
Speaker 1: I do, honestly feel like I have earned this role.
Speaker 1: And when I went to go get it, I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna let anybody else happen. You know. I went out
Speaker 1: and bought a very expensive suit for the audition because
Speaker 1: I was like, this is my role and I'm not
Speaker 1: going to you know, Like, those are the things that
Speaker 1: I did, All the things that you do when you
Speaker 1: when you want, when you deny anyone else's opportunity to
Speaker 1: take this away from you. Yeah, that's so strong. What
Speaker 1: that you you wanted something and you went out and
Speaker 1: you got it. Yeah. I'm having a great time with
Speaker 1: it too. I bet it's been going since you started
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. So hello, congratulations than October and you
Speaker 1: feel like you're I feel like you're going to stay
Speaker 1: with it, and you did five years of Milor's Place.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like that this time. I'm gonna ride
Speaker 1: this until it's dead. Your dad, Now you need a page. Well,
Speaker 1: people people all love it. People just love it. So
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like you are like that. If
Speaker 1: you had a title, a silly title, you would be
Speaker 1: like the golden child of Spelling entertainment. You are the
Speaker 1: guy he did. You know, Uncle Spelling was very very
Speaker 1: good to me. At the same time. I had a
Speaker 1: very contentious relationship with him. You know, I was you know,
Speaker 1: I was a young, cocky, bit of an asshole kind
Speaker 1: of guy, and he was, you know, going to be
Speaker 1: in charge no matter what. You know. Remember you remember,
Speaker 1: you know he's did some things they weren't too nice
Speaker 1: to me, and I did some things that weren't too
Speaker 1: nice to him. But you know I cried when he died.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's hard to separate business like that.
Speaker 1: You know, really great man, and you sound like you know,
Speaker 1: you're a great person, so sometimes you gotta do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do. Though I it was too almost going
Speaker 1: at each other you know, yeah, I kind of get
Speaker 1: that againd of get that, you know what. Okay, So
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen now? We're going to take a break
Speaker 1: and then when we come back, we're gonna get into
Speaker 1: the episode that we watched. Okay, Okay, hey everybody, Scott Patterson,
Speaker 1: we are going to have my loo vent Amelia on
Speaker 1: the podcast today and we are dropping the episode immediately.
Speaker 1: We are very excited to have him. He's a he's
Speaker 1: an old, dear friend, and he gave us. He gave
Speaker 1: us some time, which is he doesn't have any time,
Speaker 1: but he gave us some time, and we really really
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. So we're gonna do this interview with
Speaker 1: Milo uh and we're going to drop it immediately as
Speaker 1: soon as we can get it all cobbled together. This
Speaker 1: crack team I have and we're just very very excited
Speaker 1: about it. So anyway, listen to my podcast I Am
Speaker 1: All In right now on I Heart Radio, app, Apple
Speaker 1: podcast and everywhere you listen to podcasts. Okay, So here's
Speaker 1: the deal, Tori. Like I said, Tori and I were
Speaker 1: rewatching the show with the fans uh for the first time,
Speaker 1: but we're really actually becoming fans ourselves. So it's been
Speaker 1: a great ride morally. In season two, which season two, uh,
Speaker 1: in a few episodes I think is when Jake Hansen
Speaker 1: makes his debut. But we're not to you yet, so
Speaker 1: we're not gonna talk about you. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: this episode. Okay, okay, okay, uh, Season two, episode one,
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about it. It aired February six, nineteen two,
Speaker 1: and here's a little synopsis. Andrea is outraged when the
Speaker 1: school refuses to allow students to take part in a
Speaker 1: health survey that includes questions about sex. It was directed
Speaker 1: by Daniel Addis and written by Darren Starr, Karen Rosen,
Speaker 1: and Charles Rosen. So this episode I mentioned was one
Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes for a lot of reasons. This
Speaker 1: episode is all about sex education, UM, and it was
Speaker 1: very you know, timely topic, very like you said, a
Speaker 1: very special episode, very special nine two one, oh right.
Speaker 1: Not all of them were like that. I was really
Speaker 1: impressed with um, with all y'alls acting on you were
Speaker 1: it really was. It's like not easy to be that earnest, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that earnest, and um not not look silly and you didn't.
Speaker 1: You guys were great you know what, it's funny that
Speaker 1: you say that, thank you. But and and I, as
Speaker 1: a person not in it, just watching it felt the
Speaker 1: very same way like I felt this episode was so
Speaker 1: well written. Um, it was about really heavy subject matter
Speaker 1: that was sensitive, and there were a lot of emotions
Speaker 1: around it, and I felt like the stories were so
Speaker 1: well woven together so well, and the characters really everybody
Speaker 1: was kind of interwoven in a really interesting way. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a you know, public service announcement. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like an after school special. It just felt like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, there was something about this, And I
Speaker 1: did feel like across the board, really good acting and
Speaker 1: bring yourself back this was it was around there. I
Speaker 1: think times were different, people weren't tal kind of about
Speaker 1: stuff like this on television. This was really a lot
Speaker 1: more cutting edge then then it seems now, right absolutely,
Speaker 1: because I mean the episode was about bringing condoms into schools,
Speaker 1: about about sex education, about making condoms available to high
Speaker 1: school students, and Andrea was trying to like, you know,
Speaker 1: make that happen at West Beverly and the Parents Organization,
Speaker 1: But it was also about each characters own journey with them,
Speaker 1: their own sexuality. And I think that's you know, right,
Speaker 1: who was talking about being a virgin in high school
Speaker 1: and one you know, and and shame of being a
Speaker 1: virgin in high school. I don't think people were no,
Speaker 1: and I and that that that was so What was
Speaker 1: so cool about this episode two was that everyone's point
Speaker 1: of view was really actually interesting and different. Like I
Speaker 1: felt like Donna was telling a story, Andrea was telling
Speaker 1: a story, Kelly was telling a story, Brenda. Brenda was
Speaker 1: telling a story. I felt like this was actually a
Speaker 1: really um female driven episode and pretty powerful. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: Kelly just wanted to go shot. Kelly just wanted to
Speaker 1: avoid the topic at all costs because her sexuality I
Speaker 1: think was talked about enough that she didn't feel like
Speaker 1: she needed to add fuel to that fire. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I I this was Catherine Cannon's first episode, who played
Speaker 1: Felice Martin, Donna's mom, and she was the one that was,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of heading the whole parent or kind
Speaker 1: of surprised at how many involvement of the of the
Speaker 1: grown ups. I didn't realize that they were so involved
Speaker 1: in your show. I guess thought it was you kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes they were, sometimes they weren't but this episode had
Speaker 1: a nice not what they weren't too heavy, but they
Speaker 1: were just sort of like yeah, mm hmm um. But
Speaker 1: that was her first episode that they had had another
Speaker 1: woman playing Donna's mom in earlier episodes, but this was
Speaker 1: the new fully fully smarten and we all disagrew to
Speaker 1: really love her and she was such a pleasure to
Speaker 1: work with and so great, so great. So they had
Speaker 1: condoms available in other schools at that time, but I
Speaker 1: guess not at West Beverly, but I think that condoms
Speaker 1: were a thing that were being you know, presented to
Speaker 1: young people and passed out and it was all about
Speaker 1: disease protection from AIDS and all the things and so
Speaker 1: super important. It was like a big thing was called
Speaker 1: the Condom Availability Program, like the government you know, the
Speaker 1: next and all about that they did they did. I
Speaker 1: feel like, um, we had you know, some learning to
Speaker 1: do about how to talk about these sensitive subjects, you know,
Speaker 1: in ways that teens could hear and and the way
Speaker 1: teens talked, but also that didn't like put off all
Speaker 1: the parents. Because I think that this this episode really
Speaker 1: pinpointed for me. One of the things that I always
Speaker 1: say about our show was that it really opened up
Speaker 1: the communication channels between parents and their kids. So everybody
Speaker 1: was watching this show at this time, and the parents
Speaker 1: were watching it to see what their kids were watching,
Speaker 1: and a lot of times the families were watching it
Speaker 1: together because you did that back then. And I feel
Speaker 1: like I've always been told like this story. This episode
Speaker 1: really helped me and I it helped me talk to
Speaker 1: my daughter about sex, and you know, it really got
Speaker 1: us having that discussion, you know, And now talking to
Speaker 1: fans that are older and that are parents now, they're
Speaker 1: they're saying that it really helped them talk to their parents.
Speaker 1: So I feel really good about that. You know. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it was a little heavy handed, but you know, just barely.
Speaker 1: I think, I don't you know what was if it was,
Speaker 1: if you haven't handed at all. It's just the style
Speaker 1: of shooting a show back then. That's what jarved me
Speaker 1: more than anything else. Just styled just you know, dancing director.
Speaker 1: I remember, but it was terrific right whenever I worked
Speaker 1: with him. But you look at it and it's just
Speaker 1: like it's really old fashioned. It's so funny. You say
Speaker 1: that because I was going to ask you that, because
Speaker 1: you've directed episodes and you know, you know, what it
Speaker 1: takes and what's expected of you, and they just hand
Speaker 1: you this huge responsibility and say go. But they you
Speaker 1: can really see in this episode, like the filmmaking, the
Speaker 1: way they set up the players, the actors in a
Speaker 1: semicircle in front of the camera and everybody kind of
Speaker 1: gets there. There's shots where Cason is standing kind of
Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, and there's the only reason you would
Speaker 1: be standing like this to get into this. You be
Speaker 1: in the shot. It's like, yeah, I think that the
Speaker 1: you know, I think maybe that was yeah, like the
Speaker 1: style of directing back then. Yeah, No, I think it
Speaker 1: just was. It's also you know, we we we shot
Speaker 1: on film back then, in one camera shooting film, and
Speaker 1: it was expensive. You didn't have time to just mess
Speaker 1: around when I shot My only only directed one episode.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll do some more this this year. But we
Speaker 1: shot with three cameras. Oh my gosh. We would have
Speaker 1: our a camera that is, you know, my certain hero shot,
Speaker 1: this is what I'm really looking for. But then I
Speaker 1: would have a camera like the heck over there somewhere
Speaker 1: getting just big white shot that I could cut away too,
Speaker 1: and then maybe some off angle thing over here as well,
Speaker 1: and we just shoot and you just this episode a
Speaker 1: big deal or you never call cut. You just kind
Speaker 1: of just go, okay, let's go and do it again,
Speaker 1: you know, reset, do it again, reset, do it again.
Speaker 1: It was just like you just nowadays you have so
Speaker 1: much more freedom to just kind of play. Back then,
Speaker 1: it was really structured. It was like a formula, and
Speaker 1: you as the director were expected to deliver the shots
Speaker 1: that they required, you know, and they made it very
Speaker 1: very clear, you have to do a master and then
Speaker 1: we want singles, doubles over the shoulders and that's it.
Speaker 1: We don't want any like our sea stuff over over
Speaker 1: single single, move on single single. Yeah, yeah, we sho
Speaker 1: we shove to work at at Morrow's place and the
Speaker 1: marks would be on the floor already. Back then that
Speaker 1: would have bothered me, But now I kind of appreciate
Speaker 1: that and like, you know, just tell me where to stand,
Speaker 1: what you want me to say, what you want me
Speaker 1: to wear. I'm good, let's go kind of kind of agree.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know where I can see it anywhere?
Speaker 1: Ye back to back to episode Sorry we Digressed. Donna
Speaker 1: I felt like had a great um sort of moment
Speaker 1: in this episode. You know, she wasn't featured as strongly
Speaker 1: in the earlier episodes, and her character starting to sort
Speaker 1: of grow some great momentum with her like Mary not marriage,
Speaker 1: relationship with David, and now with her whole point of
Speaker 1: view kind of opposite of what her mom's point of
Speaker 1: view about this sex subject, but at the same time
Speaker 1: still maintaining her values which aren't dissimilar to her mom's.
Speaker 1: But she doesn't like the way. I don't think she
Speaker 1: likes the way her mom is presenting it to the
Speaker 1: other kids. It came across as she was actually more
Speaker 1: thoughtful about it then her mother. Her mother was just
Speaker 1: kind of rigid about it. This is the way it is,
Speaker 1: this is the way it needs to stay. And Donna
Speaker 1: was more this is a choice that I've made and
Speaker 1: that I'm going to stick with. That's really interesting because
Speaker 1: I um as a mom now of teens, I see
Speaker 1: that from a whole different perspective. You're not there yet,
Speaker 1: but we'll see you like you can as a teen,
Speaker 1: a parent of a team. You can't be black and white.
Speaker 1: You can't be so rigid and expect certain things from
Speaker 1: your kids. You have to be flexible and willing to
Speaker 1: let them guide you. Sometimes and really open your eyes
Speaker 1: to different ways of looking at things, And I think
Speaker 1: that's really cool. Yeah, I'm terrified and looking for at
Speaker 1: the same time. Yeah. My best has two daughters and
Speaker 1: who are in their twenties now. When they were Eloise's age,
Speaker 1: they were great, just the sweetest all the way up
Speaker 1: until they were about twelve, and then they became monsters
Speaker 1: about nineteen. I just terrified of that, I know. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing, here's my here's my only words of
Speaker 1: wisdom K give you on parenting. Don't say that again.
Speaker 1: I don't say that ever again. Don't even think it
Speaker 1: because you're going to create it in the universe. No,
Speaker 1: I get you, and you know I always just not
Speaker 1: She's not. She is a really at seven or eight.
Speaker 1: She's very thoughtful and she's very excuse me, she's very
Speaker 1: sensitive to other people. That's good. Well, it could change it, could,
Speaker 1: you know, alter it will you know, show up in
Speaker 1: different shades. But even when she rolls her eyes at
Speaker 1: you and sass is back at you, you know that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that she's a bad girl. You know. It's
Speaker 1: such a delicate thing. So um, I wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure we say something about Kelly's journey on in this
Speaker 1: episode that we came out. It's just at the end
Speaker 1: of that last conversation. Is that something that is a
Speaker 1: you know that this idea that she was thought of
Speaker 1: as easy is that? Was that a recurring theme with
Speaker 1: his character? Was it a constant theme with her? Yeah,
Speaker 1: from came up or was it always know from the
Speaker 1: very beginning that was her role was the kind of
Speaker 1: girl that slept around people thought that she slept around. Um,
Speaker 1: she was just very in the beginning, like you know,
Speaker 1: the bad girl, the bitch a Beverly Hills. And we
Speaker 1: worked really hard through the years to get her those
Speaker 1: layers of depth to see why she was the way
Speaker 1: she was and and learn a lot about that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. And um, you're starting to really see the shades,
Speaker 1: all the shades of Kelly and what her journey has
Speaker 1: been now. And I think this is um one of
Speaker 1: my favorite scenes, that scene with Andrea and Kelly. Um,
Speaker 1: it was there. Those two characters have such complete different
Speaker 1: personalities and perspectives, but this was a cool coming together
Speaker 1: of two different worlds, and I thought it was had
Speaker 1: had a big impact in Kelly, even as I think
Speaker 1: at the end of it like. Um, Andrea says, why
Speaker 1: I wish we had done this sooner or something, and
Speaker 1: Kelly or Kelly we could have met in the middle,
Speaker 1: And Kelly says, I think we just did so I
Speaker 1: thought that wasn't really interesting. Yeah it was. It was
Speaker 1: for someone just watching this episode as a one off,
Speaker 1: um with you know, kind of a tangential understanding of
Speaker 1: the show. Um, it was the very vulnerable moment for you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I liked it. I liked it a lot, Like that's
Speaker 1: a scene that I think I'll be proud, proud of forever. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: you know something that you will probably appreciate. Because my
Speaker 1: co host Tori doesn't claims to not ever notice this,
Speaker 1: but I noticed it not just in my show or
Speaker 1: our show, but in every show when there's a boom
Speaker 1: in the shot. Did you did you see any booms
Speaker 1: when you were watching it? You didn't see any booms
Speaker 1: in the whole episode. No, I don't don't see that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I should if I'm directing, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I will see it in my own in my own directing.
Speaker 1: Either someone else say there was a boom that shot,
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't see it because I'm looking
Speaker 1: at I'm looking at the people. I'm not looking at
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm watching the performances. I'm
Speaker 1: not watching and as as a viewer, I'm watching the performances.
Speaker 1: I'm not paying attention too much too So there was
Speaker 1: a boom in that shot. There was a boom. No,
Speaker 1: not in that shot, but there. I do a thing
Speaker 1: every week where I have a boom count. There were
Speaker 1: at least at least two that I could see, and
Speaker 1: in my internet connection was bad, so there might have
Speaker 1: been a lot more than two, but there was definitely two.
Speaker 1: In fact, there was one scene in particular where the
Speaker 1: boom was basically in the whole scene, just banging out.
Speaker 1: The sushi scene when they're eating sushi. Yeah, remember when
Speaker 1: Kelly and David and their parents are having sushi and
Speaker 1: they're sitting like on the floor. That scene, there's a
Speaker 1: little boom dangling at the top the whole time. You
Speaker 1: gotta go back and watch it now because you'll fly,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll just paint that stuff out. It's so
Speaker 1: key to do um, to do uh you know, computer
Speaker 1: you know what do you call it? Yeah, it's so
Speaker 1: cheap to do computer effects. Now they'll just paint it out.
Speaker 1: They don't have that now. Yeah, you know what, that's funny.
Speaker 1: I'm working on a movie and I yesterday I heard
Speaker 1: the executive producer shouting out like it doesn't matter, we'll
Speaker 1: paint it out. And then I heard and I was like,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? I don't understand that. And then
Speaker 1: later I heard her say, we don't want to be
Speaker 1: painting everything out so that, you know, we have to
Speaker 1: just get this right, and like it's a bit something
Speaker 1: they think about. Now. Yeah, we had an actor who
Speaker 1: who had something. I don't know what happened to his eye,
Speaker 1: but his whole eye, the white of his eye was
Speaker 1: completely red. It wasn't paint eye. It was something he
Speaker 1: like broke a blood vessel as I working out or
Speaker 1: something crazy like that. It's whole I was red painted
Speaker 1: it out every view. Could they grant? Could they paint
Speaker 1: us out? Nah? So I don't really care. Maybe after
Speaker 1: we're dead. I'm worried. I don't know. I'm worried. I
Speaker 1: feel it coming. So they haven't got it yet. Play
Speaker 1: video game. You'll see now they don't have it yet.
Speaker 1: There's something creepy about animated that's trying to look like
Speaker 1: there's a name for it as well, where you with
Speaker 1: something that's almost human and it's actually creepier than I
Speaker 1: hate it all. I don't like it. It freaks out.
Speaker 1: Look right, everything just just we're we're good enough and
Speaker 1: recognizing ourselves that we're not. We're not. We're better at
Speaker 1: recognizing ourselves than we are recreating ourselves. So right now
Speaker 1: we're safe, thank god. Phew. Okay, what about the flush hangar,
Speaker 1: the cliffhanger? I don't remember the cliffhanger? Oh, the pregnancy,
Speaker 1: My mom my momst Jackie Taylor comes in and says
Speaker 1: she's pregnant. The whole episode is focused on teens and
Speaker 1: pregnancy and being from using condoms. Then my mother walks
Speaker 1: in the room and says, I'm bringing it single. I'm good,
Speaker 1: what's big deal? So what? She's not married, she's a
Speaker 1: recovering addict. She just met this guy. And this guy
Speaker 1: that she's dating is mel Silver, who is David on
Speaker 1: the show that the sort of dork character David. The
Speaker 1: Donna's boyfriend is David's father, David The Wait Donna's Brian
Speaker 1: Austin Green's roll Brian Okay, yeah, yeaheah, Okay, it's only
Speaker 1: the really engine of that. So, yeah, Kelly hates it
Speaker 1: that her mom is dating David's Okay, so it's a
Speaker 1: big deal. It's a big cliffhanger moment. So you can watch. Yes,
Speaker 1: we definitely do. So let's take a break and when
Speaker 1: we come back, we will talk about fashion and best
Speaker 1: lines from the show and maybe play a little game. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: So Grant, are you like a fashion e star? You
Speaker 1: into fashion? I had a feeling like the worst, the
Speaker 1: worst about it, Like if I could just wear the
Speaker 1: same shirt every single day, I would. Okay, I like that,
Speaker 1: I can I can see that. But so do you
Speaker 1: do you like when you're working and you get dressed
Speaker 1: up as characters and shows like do you like dressing?
Speaker 1: And as other people? I used to hate hated I
Speaker 1: hated it on the Rose Place tasty because I don't
Speaker 1: have any awareness of it and I don't have any
Speaker 1: skill at it. So it's like something that you're bad
Speaker 1: at is always really you know, it's just difficult. It's
Speaker 1: not your thing and you don't and you don't care
Speaker 1: about it. I don't care about it, And then that
Speaker 1: and because I'm not because I'm not caring because I
Speaker 1: don't care about it. Because I don't care about it,
Speaker 1: I'm not good at because I'm not good at it,
Speaker 1: I have an a version to it and I don't
Speaker 1: care about it. It's like what we were talking about before.
Speaker 1: If you don't have passion for something, exactly into it more,
Speaker 1: I might actually like it. Well, I respect it, or
Speaker 1: I kind of been right there with you, to be honest. Well,
Speaker 1: when I did Swing Town, which was a show set
Speaker 1: in the seventies and it was all kind of discoee
Speaker 1: and you know, it was all about that kind of
Speaker 1: glossy world, I really became a lot more aware of
Speaker 1: its impact. And I have a lot more respect for
Speaker 1: it now and I spend a lot more time with
Speaker 1: it now with Blake than I would have in the past.
Speaker 1: I think, you know Blake like I do. Like with
Speaker 1: Blake's cloth, I let them kind of go through and
Speaker 1: pull a bunch of stuff and then when I and
Speaker 1: then I can just gonna go through the It's all
Speaker 1: good stuff, so I can't make a mistake. And I'm
Speaker 1: very meticulous about how how he dresses himself, as you
Speaker 1: should be. I think I think it's super important and
Speaker 1: you're right, like I wasn't as aware of it either.
Speaker 1: When I was younger, I didn't appreciate the costume designer
Speaker 1: or there, you know, vision like the character, like his characters.
Speaker 1: I've decided that like my Blake is um pretty much
Speaker 1: a narcissist and um pompous because he just is meticulous
Speaker 1: about how he looks, and you know, like his hair
Speaker 1: is high and his and his tie is always perfect,
Speaker 1: and his cuffs are perfect and everything hangs exactly right,
Speaker 1: and it's fitted, really fitted, and he gets a haircut
Speaker 1: every single week. And you know, it's like he's that
Speaker 1: person he you know, gets manicures. He cares about his appearance.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah, but it's for It's
Speaker 1: not just it's not for it's for him. It's for himself.
Speaker 1: You know. It's well, yes, he knows that this is
Speaker 1: what people see and and it sells, and and it's
Speaker 1: he thinks that he's worth it and he needs other
Speaker 1: people that never at least worth it too. He is
Speaker 1: worth it, damn it. Yeah. You don't really really appreciate
Speaker 1: fashion until you work with a great costume designer. And
Speaker 1: recently I worked with Mandy Line, who did b H
Speaker 1: nine or two one oh for us, and she was
Speaker 1: she was so incredible and just her you know, her
Speaker 1: vision and her passion for it was contagious and it
Speaker 1: really really changed my sort of perspective. So, but was
Speaker 1: there Did you happen to maybe have like a favorite
Speaker 1: fashion moment from this episode, like something that stood out
Speaker 1: to you that represented the nineties or that you hated
Speaker 1: or loved. Yeah, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan was wearing a shirt.
Speaker 1: That's that really stood out to me. Dylan, Wait, I
Speaker 1: get the characters right, yes, Jason right? No, Brandon Brandon,
Speaker 1: Jason Brandon was wearing a shirt. Dylan was all kinds
Speaker 1: of like stuff that was so nighty, and Brandon was
Speaker 1: wearing this shirt with like almost Paisley dots. They weren't paid,
Speaker 1: but they were like, oh my gosh, that was so subtle,
Speaker 1: and it really irritated you know, didn't irritate me that
Speaker 1: I just noticed it. Liked it. Remember when we used
Speaker 1: to wear stuff like that and then and then brand No,
Speaker 1: Dylan was wearing all kinds of like, you know, bad
Speaker 1: boy clothes. Yeah, nineties bad boy. It's funny that that
Speaker 1: shirt stood out to you because you know, notoriously like
Speaker 1: David's character and Steve. Steve's character always wore crazy clothes,
Speaker 1: so this episode, David was wearing like the ad must
Speaker 1: insane polka dotted black man blouse. Yeah, somebody was. Somebody
Speaker 1: also had a a plaid, big billowy plaid shirt tucked
Speaker 1: into kind of billowy pants. Chief. I want to go
Speaker 1: to Steve's characters like it. Oh gosh, it's so good
Speaker 1: the fashion though. Okay, so uh. In honor of our
Speaker 1: amazing writers, we like to kind of quote um. Our
Speaker 1: favorite line from each episode show was, did you have
Speaker 1: a favorite line from want to go Shopping? That's Kelly's
Speaker 1: answer to everything. Yeah, that's who has to go shopping?
Speaker 1: I remember exactly what it was was. It was either
Speaker 1: can we just go shopping? Do you don't you want
Speaker 1: to just go? What? Do you remember what it was? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go talk about sex anymore? Can we just go shopping?
Speaker 1: And then she just says something something, and then Kelly says, well,
Speaker 1: what it's good for the economy? Yeah right, she's right,
Speaker 1: just doing her part. I loved okay. Well, another one
Speaker 1: of Kelly's ones manby laugh was um when she's talking
Speaker 1: to Brenda in the Hallway about her mom who her
Speaker 1: mom's dating, and her mom's dating a dentist, and she says,
Speaker 1: whose idea of a good time is a gun massage?
Speaker 1: I missed the actual massage part, like I didn't hear
Speaker 1: it for some reason. I just heard he's a dentist.
Speaker 1: I heard whose idea of a good time is blank? Well,
Speaker 1: he's a dentist. So I had to try to fill
Speaker 1: in myself, and gun massage is one of the things
Speaker 1: I came up with. So really, wow, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think they exist? Do That is what is a
Speaker 1: gum massage? Doesn't Have you ever gotten a gum massage from?
Speaker 1: Have someone tried to have pushed them away? No? Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Another really cool line from this episode which
Speaker 1: a lot of people remember, and I would be remiss
Speaker 1: not to mention it was a line from Donna and
Speaker 1: she says, it's a long one to brace yourself. If
Speaker 1: you have swimming pool in your backyard, you can tell
Speaker 1: your children not to go in it, You can even
Speaker 1: build a fence around it. But if you know that
Speaker 1: they're going to find a way into that water, don't
Speaker 1: you ink that you ought to teach the kids how
Speaker 1: to swim well and you know, like, yeah, that's probably
Speaker 1: the best line in the in the in the movie,
Speaker 1: in the in the episode, it's like so very true
Speaker 1: and very obvious. It's kind of the whole sums it
Speaker 1: all up. Yes it fits, and you can't really deny it, no,
Speaker 1: because it really was. There was a lot there's a
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff in this episode, but this now
Speaker 1: is the part of the show that always kind of
Speaker 1: makes me cringe a little. Uh. We asked everyone, all
Speaker 1: of our guests to play like a little rapid fire
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Oh no, I'm gonna fail. You saw
Speaker 1: my memories terrible. I was hit on the head as
Speaker 1: a child. It's really really true. This is true. It
Speaker 1: was in a coma. They thought I was gonna die.
Speaker 1: And my memory is as bad as memory can be.
Speaker 1: But go ahead. Oh no, no, no, I can't know.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about your your head injury. That's it.
Speaker 1: I told you. That's the story you got. But what
Speaker 1: hit you in the head? I felt it was OK,
Speaker 1: you get it. It It was probably nineteen let's say it
Speaker 1: was eight years old, was nineteen seventy. I had a shirt.
Speaker 1: I remember the shirt I was wearing. It was purple
Speaker 1: with white doves on it, little white doves all over it,
Speaker 1: and it was puffy sleeve. And I was out playing
Speaker 1: with the kids were it was dust and we were
Speaker 1: running and I got ahead of myself and fell forward.
Speaker 1: You know kids do sometimes they run faster than they
Speaker 1: can run. They get ahead of themselves, and I fell forward.
Speaker 1: And I believe what happened is when I went to
Speaker 1: put my hand out, I stepped on my sleeve. My
Speaker 1: next one what came in step. So I took the
Speaker 1: fall with my forehead and you hit it right back here.
Speaker 1: My skull broke back. Um. And anyway, when they took
Speaker 1: me to the as they were taking me to the hospital,
Speaker 1: I went into a coma and they didn't know what
Speaker 1: was wrong with me. I couldn't figure it out. They
Speaker 1: didn't have m rs back then, they didn't know. And
Speaker 1: it was several days before a specialist came in and
Speaker 1: kind of figured out what had happened. And they thought
Speaker 1: that one of my friends had given me drugs. They
Speaker 1: were like it was they were all over the map.
Speaker 1: I had no idea. That is insane, your poor mom,
Speaker 1: I know. And part of the part of part of
Speaker 1: when I was in the coma, which wasn't I guess
Speaker 1: isn't really time with your comma. I went into like
Speaker 1: this other place where I was violent and I was
Speaker 1: punching and yelling and calling people horrible names and you know,
Speaker 1: just been terrified. They thought I was going to die. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure glad you didn't, cheese, and look at you now,
Speaker 1: like you should go see my doctor, doctor Amon and
Speaker 1: get your brain scanned. I would love to do that. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna set it up to your gran. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: He does this great thing. He's in l A and
Speaker 1: he does this great thing called scan my Brain. He
Speaker 1: has people come in and you can do it privately
Speaker 1: or you can do it on his program Scan my Brain.
Speaker 1: But it is fascinating and he will see what the
Speaker 1: impact of that injury had on your brain and how
Speaker 1: that's affecting you now. But then what if he takes
Speaker 1: away my excuse from my bad memory. Maybe it's just
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just you know exactly, well, he'll he'll solidify
Speaker 1: that and then you can still use that excuse, because
Speaker 1: I still use my excuse of my bad memory that
Speaker 1: I got run over by jet Ski. So did you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I had my brain skin and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see your conuction and I can see the
Speaker 1: impact of it, and he can and he can see
Speaker 1: the brain activity in your brain and where like if
Speaker 1: you're concussion was bad enough, there will be a lack
Speaker 1: of blood flow in your brain and a lack of
Speaker 1: activity which will really inhibit so many things, whether it's
Speaker 1: in your frontal look back like you know, super super
Speaker 1: fascinating brain health. I'm going to give you his contact later,
Speaker 1: which I don't know, no idea when that's going to be.
Speaker 1: I definitely want to see him, definitely, Yes you should. Okay, um, okay,
Speaker 1: rapid fire. Okay, who is your favorite character from Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills nine or two one? Now? Brandon Brandon? Great answer.
Speaker 1: Since Kelly didn't end up on Team Jake, who should
Speaker 1: she have ended up with Team Brandon or Team Dylan.
Speaker 1: I feel like Dylan is more her her guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised. There's quite a divide out there on
Speaker 1: this subject. Yeah, people are Team Brandon or Team Dylan.
Speaker 1: So you were killing good to know, Okay, but Jake
Speaker 1: made him. It was Jake. Jake should have like, but
Speaker 1: you were too young for Jake too. So there. You know,
Speaker 1: nowadays you'd probably go to jail. Yeah, definitely, Yeah, you'd
Speaker 1: be and jo. Um. Okay. The last question I think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you is, uh, that's the worst one.
Speaker 1: Ready kissed Mary or kicked to the curb? Would who
Speaker 1: would you marry? And who would you give the he
Speaker 1: ho to? Of the three women on the show, of
Speaker 1: any of the people you could be man, whatever is
Speaker 1: your thing? Whatever? Wow, that makes a little character character. Well, um,
Speaker 1: I don't remember everyone's name. That's okay, I'll help you. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: give me the girl's names again. Just Kelly, Donna, and
Speaker 1: Kelly Donna, Brenda, Brenda Andrea. So Mary Andrea, Mary, Kelly
Speaker 1: kiss not Andrea, not on Brenda and kicked to the
Speaker 1: curb Steve. Okay, good, but you see you did so good?
Speaker 1: Well you know what I mean. I was on the spot.
Speaker 1: I think I'm up with something. I love everything, Grant.
Speaker 1: It has been so much fun hanging out with you.
Speaker 1: I've really, I genuine only enjoyed our conversations. Me too,
Speaker 1: I really did so when this when I saw the email,
Speaker 1: It's like, great, I get to apologize. That's the first
Speaker 1: thing I thought, and then Secondly, UM think tonight, I'm
Speaker 1: not worrying about it anymore. I forgive you right, you
Speaker 1: can tick that off around. But I really enjoyed Um
Speaker 1: talking to me. I think this is more than we've
Speaker 1: ever spoken to each other ever, and I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I know. Well good, I'm so glad. Thank you. Thank
Speaker 1: you from the bottom of my heart for coming on
Speaker 1: and being my co host. Thank you for inviting me.
Speaker 1: So everyone out there be sure to watch Grant's amazing
Speaker 1: show Dynasty. It's uh Friday nights on the c W.
Speaker 1: Is that right? That's right? Or Netflix? Love it? Everyone,
Speaker 1: here's your homework. Watch next week's episode, Um what is It?
Speaker 1: Season two, episode twenty two, Baby makes five A right? Everybody,
Speaker 1: go out and have a good week. Bye.