1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast d AM 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: supernatural and the unexplained. Get ready now for Shades of 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi. 11 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been 12 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: on a journey to prove the existence of life after death. 13 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know 14 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: that our loved ones have survived physical death, and so 15 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. I'd like 16 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: to start out today by reading Wayne's near death experience. 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: He says, I was very sick with bleeding ulcers. My 18 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 2: medical insurance had expired, and I was at home for 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: several days trying to rest and hope that everything would 20 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: heal on its own. I have had bleeding ulcers since 21 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: I was a child, have had several attacks through the 22 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: years and know pretty much what to expect when they happen. 23 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: I knew this attack was pretty bad. On January fifth, 24 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 2: I woke up with a severe headache and knew my 25 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: blood pressure was very, very high. Mid morning, I realized 26 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: I was very sick and telephoned a friend to ask 27 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: them to come to my home. I remember thinking this 28 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: is the last phone call I'll ever make. I was 29 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: very calm and decided to get into the empty bathtub 30 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: so I wouldn't bleed all over the carpets and make 31 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: a mess. By this time, I was bleeding through my 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 2: ears and was bleeding heavily everywhere. I woke up in 33 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: a warm, bright place and was confused as to where 34 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: I was. It took a minute, and I remember thinking, wow, 35 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: I must be dead. There was no pain. I could 36 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: see myself. It wasn't like a spirit kind of thing. 37 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: I looked up and my grandmother was there. She had 38 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: died long ago, but it was her. She was wearing 39 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 2: a purple dress, and I suddenly remembered seeing her in 40 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: her coffin as a kid. Wearing that dress. There was 41 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: a Boston Terrier dog standing beside her. We had always 42 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: had Boston Terriers as pets when I was a kid, 43 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: but I didn't recognize this particular dog. I asked her 44 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: where my mom and dad were. They had both passed away. 45 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: But she looked at me and said, you can't stay here. 46 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: You have to go back now. I said no, I 47 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: don't want to leave, and she said, I promise next 48 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: time you can stay. Then I woke up in the hospital. 49 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: It was very confusing for a couple of minutes, and 50 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: the doctor told me that my friend had called nine 51 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: one one after I had phoned him, and they found 52 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: me in the bathtub with no pulse. Luckily, I was 53 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: found in time. I spent two weeks in the hospital 54 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 2: and have been in decent health ever since, although I 55 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: still do have bleeding ulcers. But on a side note, 56 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 2: I went through a big box of old family photos 57 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: and I found the dog with my grandmother. Her name 58 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: was Tricksie and she was our household pet when I 59 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: was born, back in nineteen fifty six. I don't remember 60 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: her though, as she was put to sleep around nineteen 61 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: fifty eight. It was definitely absolutely Trixie, who is with 62 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: my grandma. I haven't spoken about pets in the afterlife 63 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 2: too much on this show, only a couple of times, 64 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: I think. And this past week I found a photo 65 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: album with pictures of my cat Millie and her son Ozzie, 66 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: and it got me thinking about pets the afterlife, the 67 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: difference pets make in our lives, and how as much 68 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: as we grieve human beings passings, we have a lot 69 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: of pets in our life, and anyone who is a 70 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: pet owner or a friend of a furried creature, we 71 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: know just how devastating their loss is. I think animals 72 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: can find a place in our hearts that we never 73 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: let human beings, and the more that we love, the 74 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 2: more grief hurts. So I found a little treasure trove 75 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: of stories about people who experience pets when they get 76 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: to the afterlife. There's a great website that I'd love 77 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: to share with you called n d e RF dot org, 78 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: which stands for Near Death Experience Research Foundation. There you 79 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: can read and search many near death experiences. You can 80 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: also share your own near death experiences. It is translated 81 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 2: into many different languages. There are lots of resources. There's 82 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: research studies. They do loads of information and it's just 83 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: a great site. So that is nd RF dot org, 84 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: the Near Death Experience Research Foundation. So let me continue 85 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 2: with some more stories about people seeing pets in the afterlife. 86 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: Yvette says, while I was having surgery, I experienced the following. 87 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: I was in a park, green grass everywhere. It was 88 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 2: very pretty and very clean. I saw a black cat 89 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: running up to me. It's my Amigo, my black cat 90 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: who passed away six months earlier. He ran toward me 91 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 2: and leaped into my arms. He feels exactly the same. 92 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 2: He was always a solid cat from his years on 93 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: the streets. I held him tight and so happy to 94 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 2: see him. Joy fills me. I even cry a little bit. 95 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: I hold him, hugging him, kissing him. He's rubbing his 96 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: cheek on my face. I'm so happy to see him. 97 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: I think he's so happy to see me too. This 98 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: happiness is as I've never felt before. I could feel 99 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 2: his love and adoration. I have never felt happiness like 100 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: this before in my life. It was peaceful, comforting, and 101 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: so fulfilling. Amigo then jumps out of my arms. I 102 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: see him walk over to a park bench and sit 103 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 2: next to an old man. I was about to follow 104 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: him when I see the old man. Wait, is that Grandpa? Grandpa? Grandpa? 105 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: I shout. Amigo jumps up on the park bench and 106 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: curls up asleep next to Grandpa Grandpa. I keep calling him. 107 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: He doesn't look directly at me. He motions with his 108 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: hands for me to go away. Grandpa, No, Grandpa, it's me. 109 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: I say, Why doesn't Grandpa want to see me? Why 110 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: is he telling me to go away? This hurts all 111 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: the happiness of seeing Amigo goes away. Why won't my 112 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 2: grandpa come to me? Why is he telling me to 113 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: go away? I can't move towards him. I can't run 114 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: up to him and give him a hug. I feel 115 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: like I'm stuck there, watching him still motioning me to 116 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: go away. He had a serious look on his face. 117 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: I was so sad, so confused. I look at a 118 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: Migo lying peacefully asleep next to him. Again, I'm filled 119 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: with love and zap. I am back awake in my body. 120 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 2: Don says. During my surgery, I became aware of myself 121 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: walking in a grassy clearing that was surrounded by trees. 122 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: At the time, I thought I was seeing a light, 123 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: gray sky, in the distance, but now I believe it 124 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: was a dim light. As I continued looking at it, 125 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: the light became a pure white light. I wanted to 126 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 2: go there, to where the light was, and so I 127 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: kept walking toward it. As I walked, I noticed how 128 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: lush and green the grass and the forest were. I 129 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: felt completely at peace and content. Then I heard barking 130 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: dogs and I could understand what they were saying. They 131 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: were playing and planning to go somewhere to continue their game. 132 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: I turned a corner and there was a group of dogs. 133 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: I became very joyful when I saw that two of 134 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: the dogs were my deceased dogs, and they were part 135 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: of the group. I called out the name to one 136 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: of the dogs, wanting to hold him and pet him. 137 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: The other dogs took off, racing towards the light. My 138 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: dog turned, looked at me and barked, and again I 139 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: could understand him, and in a very scolding tone, he said, 140 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: you're not supposed to be here. He took off and 141 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: joined the other dogs, and soon they were all engulfed 142 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: by the light. I could see figures there, but I 143 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: could not move. It was then that I woke up. 144 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: Here's Jonathan's story. He says this occurred during the middle 145 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: of the month of May. I had gone to the 146 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: emergency room at the Veterans Hospital on a Thursday afternoon 147 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: with a chest pain that would go away. The next day. 148 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: They conducted a stress test which I was unable to complete, 149 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: so it was chemically induced to speed up my heart 150 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: for the test. The next morning, which was on a Saturday, 151 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: the cardiologist stopped by my room and did the usual 152 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 2: stethoscope thing. He listened to my heart and told me 153 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 2: I was scheduled for angioplasty stint on Monday. I had 154 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: a very blaw breakfast eating a waffle. When the chest 155 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 2: pain became intense, I pushed the nurse's call button. That's when, 156 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: for what I believe was a very brief moment, I 157 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 2: had a strange, unusual experience. All of those people attending 158 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: me vanished, and my mother was sitting on the left 159 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: side of the bed beside me, with my father standing 160 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: by her. I didn't realize who they were at first, 161 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: because they were both very young, late teens or early twenties. 162 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: There were other people behind them. I couldn't focus on 163 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: them because of the bright light coming from something like 164 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: a wormhole behind them. There were figures of people rushing 165 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: out of it toward me, but I couldn't tell who 166 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: they were due to the extreme brightness. I then became 167 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: distracted by figures to my right, which were all of 168 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: my former pets, dogs and cats that had died, climbing 169 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: over each other to get to me. They gave me 170 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: the impression of me just getting home from a long trip, 171 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 2: as they were so excited to see me. I had 172 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: time to glance back at my mom and dad, and 173 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: then everything disappeared and all the hospital personnel were there 174 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: treating me. I was rushed to the emergency room at 175 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: a nearby cardiac facility, when they told me the artery 176 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: between my heart and lungs was almost completely blocked and 177 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 2: a stint was put in, and a stint was put in. 178 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: That was just to few stories of near death experiences 179 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: containing pets, So we're going to go diving into this 180 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: deeper in this episode. Hear more stories and also hear 181 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: some other ways that we know that pets survive physical death. 182 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: But before we go, I found a few cute quotes, 183 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 2: this one from Donald Hicks. He says, we may have pets, 184 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,359 Speaker 2: but when it comes to unconditional love. They are the masters. 185 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: Here are a couple of unknown quotes. 186 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: Pets. 187 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 2: Love is a magical force that has the power to heal, comfort, 188 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: and bring endless happiness to our lives. And until one 189 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:49,479 Speaker 2: has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened. 190 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: Beautiful words. Time for our break and then we'll be 191 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: back with more stories. 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I'm Sandra Champlain 208 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 2: and I'd love to continue with some more stories compliments 209 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: of our friends at the Near Death Experience Research Foundation, 210 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: all containing stories of people who have near death experiences, 211 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: but they get to see pets. Okay, here's the next one. 212 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: This is from Jacqueline. There was a point of knowing. 213 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: With that knowing came no fear. I wasn't frightened at 214 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: all at that point. There is no concept of time, 215 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: as on my return back to my body and back 216 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: to this earth, I was told I was clinically dead 217 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: for twelve minutes. As there is no concept of time, 218 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: everything seems to move very fast and very slow. At 219 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: the one point, upon experiencing the tremendous light, which to 220 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: our normal eyes would seem almost blinding, I first saw 221 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: our dog, mister Miyagi, who had passed six months earlier. 222 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: He had died of old age. But upon that meeting 223 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: he was like a lion in his prime, sitting in 224 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: a meadow. He radiated love for me and for our 225 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 2: time that had been spent together on this earth. We 226 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: didn't communicate through words, it was just a knowing. I 227 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 2: then met Malcolm g who was a long lifetime family 228 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: friend and a very strong influence in the way my 229 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: early life panned out. I then saw my mother, Margaret, 230 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: who had committed suicide eight years earlier. She was beautiful, 231 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: a petite lady with long blonde hair, and surrounded by 232 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: children as if she was teaching them or talking to them. 233 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: She radiated peace and none of the trauma she had 234 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: experienced in her lifetime. Her message to me was very 235 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 2: strong that I was very much loved and to stay 236 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: connected to my sister. Although Caroline and I have always 237 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: been fond of each other and had a lot of love, 238 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: we have never really felt connected. Mom's last words to 239 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: me were the only thing that's real is love. My 240 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: last encounter was with my father, John, who had been 241 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: brutally murdered twenty years before the date of this encounter 242 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: by my godfather at our family house with also the 243 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: intent of murdering my mom Margaret. My father looked incredibly tall. 244 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: He was very statuesque with his jet black, brill creamed 245 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: hair back. He was looking very dapper. He radiated peace 246 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: and was incredibly refined and charming. My father in this 247 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 2: lifetime was the type of person who had a presence. 248 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: When he walked into the room again, I was told 249 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: I was very much loved, and from that point I 250 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 2: felt a tremendous force, as if being pushed at great speed. 251 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: Then I awoke. I regained my sight with no time. 252 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: I was then told by the doctors that they were 253 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: still very concerned about me, but I had no fear. 254 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: Tracy said, I had finished telling my anesthesiologist to tell 255 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 2: everyone that I loved them, and al my partner that 256 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: he would be a good dead. I was then put under. 257 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: I could see the room, the doctors and nurses, and 258 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: I could feel their fear of losing me. I could 259 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 2: tell the intern's anxiety and a few of the nurses sadness. 260 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 2: They barely believed I would live. I could sense others 261 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: as well. But I was quickly swept into an opening. 262 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 2: The best I know to describe it is not so 263 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: much as a tunnel, but a fuzzy opening, as though 264 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: the pixels were less clear and darker. I felt pulled 265 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: through it. The place I was is a hill in 266 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: Marysville where my grandmother used to pick sunflowers. The grass 267 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: was so lush and so green. The air was so perfect, 268 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 2: colors had intensity I had never known. I could see 269 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: and know all of these things with my entire being. 270 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: A dog's tail waved through the tall grass. A beautiful, 271 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 2: fuzzy puppy wagged her tail at me. First I did 272 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 2: not recognize her. I had never seen our dog as 273 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 2: a puppy. I was so happy to see her. We 274 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: had to put her down two weeks prior to my 275 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 2: daughter's birth. She had injured her hip. We had given 276 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: all the surgery we could to keep her, but it 277 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: did not make her quality of life any better. It 278 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: had become much worse. We had to put her down 279 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 2: on my due date. Our hearts were so heavy with 280 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: the loss of a dog that generously shared her life 281 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 2: with us for twelve years. I followed the spirited dog 282 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: as she meandered amongst the tall grass. There sat my grandmother, 283 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: looking over the hill, as though she had been waiting 284 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 2: for me. There. When I saw her, I had never 285 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: seen her so beautiful. The essence of her was so magnificent, 286 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: and everything around us whispered love, love, Love. I sat 287 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 2: with her and asked her questions. We spoke without words, 288 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: but with understanding. It was made clear that I was 289 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: only there for a recess, a term that had been 290 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 2: used in my junior school years as a break before lunch. 291 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: We looked from our beautiful, lush hill. There was, however, 292 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: a split from where the hill ended and the road began. 293 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: I could see the town, the cars moving, but everything 294 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: was dull and black and white. Up the hill came 295 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: my other grandmother, smile with love in her heart, and 296 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 2: then the sun began to go down. It's not your time, 297 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: It's time to go, my first grandmother said. I did 298 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 2: not want to leave. I pleaded, I do not want to. 299 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 2: I can't. You must, she said, you have a child, 300 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 2: you are not finished loving. Go. The words were from 301 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 2: everything that existed there and beyond that. Maybe what perhaps 302 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: people call God coming to was more painful than I 303 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: can describe. As I remember, and as it has been 304 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: told to me, I was in the ICU for two days. 305 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 2: I struggled with consciousness. I could see these people, people 306 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 2: that when they discovered I was coming to this world, 307 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: and could see theirs tried to give me messages. One 308 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: woman wanted her daughter to forgive her. A sickly teenage 309 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 2: boy needed to apologize to his parents as he had 310 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: taken his own life. I was trying to figure out 311 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: where I was. Al kept saying where I was and 312 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: what had happened five hundred times. Repeatedly, he would say, Tracy, 313 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 2: it's all right, You're okay. You can wake up now. 314 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: I wanted to help these spirits. I think they were people. 315 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: Even a baby floated past. They finally gave me a 316 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: pen and I wrote pages and pages of gibberish. The 317 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: ICU nurse finally went to get the nurse who had 318 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: been known to see spirits herself. She soothed me with 319 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: her words, they are just spirits. Just focus on getting better. 320 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: It's okay. You have angels and they want you to 321 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 2: come back. With her help, I was able to awake. 322 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 2: My recovery took a while as I mourned being on 323 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 2: that hill, seeing my grandmother's and my wonderful dog. This 324 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 2: next story is from Kustav. I went to the bank 325 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: near my house. I walked past a group of stoners. 326 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 2: They saw that I had exited the bank and told 327 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: me to give them my money. I told them to 328 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: forget it, and I kept walking. They began to follow me, 329 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: and after a while, one of them pulled out a 330 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: hunting gun. He told me to give him my money. 331 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: I told him to wait one second while I was 332 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: reaching in my pocket for my wallet. He understood that 333 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: me saying one second was a form of resistance. He 334 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 2: shot me. Suddenly. I hovered over my body. I could 335 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: see one of the youths kick me in the head. 336 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: As the group walked away, I tried following them while 337 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: shouting at them, but they could not hear me. Another 338 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: person who had witnessed the whole thing from Afar had 339 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: already called the police. Help was on its way, but 340 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: it needed to be fast. I watched as the paramedic came. 341 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: Three men came out with a stretcher. What does this matter, 342 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: I thought, I'm already dead, so this is absolutely useless. 343 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: I was able to float away very quickly. I was 344 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: surprised that there didn't seem to be any spirits here. 345 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 2: I decided to go to the farmhouse that I grew 346 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: up in as a child. I went into one of 347 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: the fields and found the grave of my childhood companion, 348 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: my cat Elmer. I remembered he died when I was 349 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: ten years old, and I missed him ever since. I 350 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: could see my messy childhood riding it, said Elmer. The 351 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: sky went completely black. I could not see anything. It 352 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: was almost as if nighttime had suddenly come without any 353 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 2: warning and without any lights. Then I saw a bright 354 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: white light. It was going upwards. I decided to float 355 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 2: up towards the light. I managed to float into the 356 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: stream of light. Suddenly I felt cold. As I was rising, 357 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 2: I saw snowflakes. I saw peace of floating land in 358 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: the distance. It had one pine tree and it was 359 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: covered in snow. I decided to go to that tree. 360 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: Below the tree, I heard a I looked down and 361 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: saw Elmer. Elmer was a white Persian cat. I could 362 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: not believe it. He was watching me his beautiful green 363 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: eyes and long, luscious white fur. Suddenly I realized I 364 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: had hands. I was surprised by this. I picked up Elmer. 365 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 2: When I held him, he purred. No longer did I 366 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 2: feel cold. His fur completely warmed me up, and I 367 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: felt the energy of his love. It was just like 368 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: old times. I began to cry in the feeling of happiness. 369 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: I could even smell him, exactly the way he used 370 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 2: to smell. I put him down and could tell from 371 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: his purring and rubbing up against me that I would 372 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 2: be okay, whether this meant returning to life or staying 373 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: on this floating island. Then I realized Elmer's eyes had 374 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: the same look as I remembered when something got his attention. 375 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 2: In one giant leap, he leapt off the island and 376 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: into the horizon. Then I heard a very powerful voice. 377 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 2: It told me, Kustav, it is not your time to die. 378 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: Elmer will be waiting for you when you get back. 379 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 2: Suddenly I started floating backwards against my will. It felt 380 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: as though I was getting pulled back. I was floating 381 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 2: back down. I saw Elmer's grave once again. From there, 382 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: I was floating back until eventually I could see the 383 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: hospital where I was. I saw my body lying unconsciously 384 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: on a hospital bed. I went inside my body. I 385 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: woke up and could not talk. I felt pain, but 386 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: I felt the warmth of recalling what just happened. It's 387 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: been over twenty six years that I've been reading about 388 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: near death experiences, and these really warm my heart thinking 389 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: about our pets. When it's your time to go, we 390 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: will be greeted by loved ones. Maybe even pets to 391 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: help us across the vale. Can you imagine your loved 392 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: ones there for you, welcoming you home, seeing that bright 393 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: light going over, just closing your eyes here and opening 394 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: them there and seeing all the pets you've ever had, 395 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: your cats, your dogs, your birds, your horses, maybe your 396 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: pet iguana. They'll be there for sure. Let's go to 397 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 2: the break and then we'll hear more stories. You're listening 398 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeart Radio and 399 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 400 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: Stay there, Sandra will be right back. 401 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: Hi. This is Wuija board expert Karen A. Dolman, and 402 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 2: you're listening to the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast 403 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 2: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 404 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: And now back to Sandra Champlain and Shades of the Afterlife. 405 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. 406 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: There's a million stories of near death experiences and I'm 407 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: fascinated by them. They give us hope and comfort that 408 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: we go on after death. A lot of people see 409 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: the bright light, feel the tunnel, see loved ones, but 410 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: it's not so easy to find the stories about people 411 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: seeing their pets. So I'm going to continue reading. Okay. 412 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 2: This one is from Raymond and he was ten years 413 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: old at the time of this near death experience. I 414 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: went to Catholic school at the time and was horsing 415 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: around with a friend after school on the playground. He 416 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: was showing me a new judo that he had learned 417 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: in his martial arts class. He was going to flip 418 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 2: me over his shoulder and onto the ground. Something went 419 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: wrong and I landed directly on my head. I picked 420 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: myself up from the ground with the most intense pain 421 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: in my head and spine than I have ever remembered. 422 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: I was literally knocked senseless. As I got up, I 423 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 2: remember seeing a woman who was there to pick up 424 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: her kids getting out of her car with a horrified 425 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: look on her face. She had seen the accident. I 426 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 2: turned to run into the bathroom I am still not 427 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: sure why, but only made it a few feet before 428 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: I fell flat on my face on the concrete and 429 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: I blacked out completely. I thought that I had a 430 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: dream when I was unconscious. What else would a ten 431 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 2: year old compare the experience to. I did not realize 432 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: what had happened until many years later. It felt as 433 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: if my body had just come apart, and my vision 434 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: went spiraling out of control, swirling colors that seemed to 435 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: disappear to a point somewhere, like a funnel or something. 436 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: I was really scared because I felt like I was 437 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: losing control of everything. Somehow I knew that I had 438 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: to let go of my fear and just roll into 439 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,479 Speaker 2: the funnel of swirling light. My body was gone. It 440 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: felt like a blender had just ripped it apart, and 441 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: I was drawn into the funnel toward the disappearing point. 442 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: I just let go of everything. As soon as I 443 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: let go of the fear, the pleasant sensations began. I 444 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 2: still had a body, but it was entirely different. I 445 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: could see in three dimensions, as if I had no 446 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: body at all, but was just a floating eyeball. For 447 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 2: lack of a better explanation, I could see all directions 448 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 2: at once, yet there were no directions or dimensions as 449 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: we think of them. Note this is the one thing 450 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: that really bothers me when I hear or read of 451 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: others near death experiences that describe a place sometimes with 452 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: rivers and valleys and flowers. This to me was not 453 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: a place like anything here, and I wonder how my 454 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 2: experience could be so different from others. Anyway, I was 455 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 2: greeted by a being of light and love, but nobody 456 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 2: else I could recognize. It seemed to just be a 457 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: brilliant glow that absorbed me into itself. Love is far 458 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: too weak of a word to describe this experience. I 459 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: became love. My entire being, every strand of my spirit 460 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: spreading throughout the universe had become love a million times 461 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 2: a million billion. This is the point where I have 462 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 2: to contradict myself. I said earlier that over there was 463 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 2: not a place similar to what we experience here. However, 464 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: I found myself in front of some giant golden gates 465 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: of some kind. It reminded me of an altar in 466 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: the Catholic Church. There was some kind of fog or 467 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: something that obscured any sense of distance, but my pet 468 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: dog Skippy was there. Skippy had died some years earlier 469 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: and was the only one that I had any real 470 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: family connection with when I was dead. I was overwhelmed 471 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: with joy and love and embraced my dog with my spirit. 472 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: Although I don't remember Skippy saying anything to me, we 473 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: were so happy to be together again at this point, 474 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: I was told I must go back, that it was 475 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: not my time. This is somewhat fuzzy here, but I 476 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: don't remember any intense feeling of regret and being filled 477 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: with a no, no, please let me stay feeling. But 478 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: wherever the voice was coming from was adamant it was 479 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 2: my time and I must return. I had no choice 480 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: in the matter. If it is possible to describe the 481 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: funnel experience in reverse, this is what it felt like 482 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: coming back. It felt like my spirit was being stuffed 483 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: into a jar that was far too small and painful 484 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: to hold it. I was fighting to return. No, no, 485 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't want to go back. The process would not stop. 486 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: I was returning. I heard voices, real voices. I opened 487 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: my eyes briefly and saw a circle of people gathered 488 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: over and around my body, my face in particular. It 489 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: was the paramedics from the ambulance, and they were rubbing 490 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: ice all over my face. One of them said he 491 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: opened his eyes. I closed my eyes fiercely and tried 492 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 2: to go back, Go back, go back with Skippy, but 493 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: they kept yelling and telling me to open my eyes 494 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: while lightly slapping my face. I was in deep physical 495 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: pain and felt completely saturated with exhaustion. Next, I'd like 496 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 2: to read to you Morgan's near death experience. I had 497 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: been going through some hard times financially, and at the 498 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: time I was just about to lose my home. My 499 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: electricity was cut off for non payment. Here in Alaska, 500 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: that is not good in the winter months. I had 501 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 2: borrowed a generator to provide electricity for the house. It 502 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: would power my oil stove in order to heat the house. 503 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 2: I really was broke more than just financially, as my 504 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: faith was crumbling with all the unfortunate events that kept reoccurring. 505 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: My friend and I placed the generator in the garage, 506 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 2: which was attached to the house. We started the generator 507 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: and then went into the house. We didn't know it, 508 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 2: but fumes were coming into the house and our minds 509 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: went into a partial blackout. We were not thinking clearly well. 510 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: Sometime near morning, I got up, not feeling well and 511 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: stumbled to the bathroom, where I blacked out and fell 512 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: to the floor. For some reason, my friend Neil had 513 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: woken up and had come to check on me. Everyone 514 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: was concerned about me because of all the unfortunate events 515 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,439 Speaker 2: that were happening in my life. He had realized about 516 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 2: the fumes in the house and went looking for me. 517 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 2: When he found I wasn't in the bedroom, he found 518 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: me in a puddle of blood where I had fallen 519 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 2: onto the bathroom floor. He tried to move me but couldn't, 520 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: so he grabbed his cell phone and called for help. 521 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: Morgan says, this story has a lot more to it, 522 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,240 Speaker 2: but I can't type it here with much accuracy. Anyway, 523 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: I left my body during this experience, and I found 524 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: myself with my dog, Tramp, who had just passed away 525 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: a month before. I wouldn't be here now if it 526 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: hadn't been for Tramp. That dog is the closest thing 527 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: to me in the whole world. Believe me when I 528 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: say that it was my dog Tramp who saved my life, 529 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: not the paramedics that came to the house. Now. On 530 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:07,959 Speaker 2: this nderf dot org website, people can type in their 531 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: near death experiences, and Morgan in particular didn't tell us 532 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 2: all the details. But something I find really interesting that 533 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: I think you will too is the website asks questions 534 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 2: about the near death experiences, like in this case, what's 535 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 2: the gender of the person? Mail the date the near 536 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: death experience occurred. He says November twenty eleven at the 537 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: time of your experience. Was there an associated life threatening event? 538 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: He says yes, accident, direct head injury. Nearly died of 539 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: carbon monoxide poisoning. Did you feel separated from your body? Yes, 540 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: I lost total awareness of my body. How did your 541 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 2: highest level of consciousness and alertness during the experience compare 542 00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: to your normal everyday consciousness and alertness, more consciousness and 543 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: alertness than ever before? What time did you have the 544 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: highest state of alertness right before those shock paddles were 545 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,720 Speaker 2: applied to me? There's questions about the speed of thought. 546 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 2: Were your senses more vivid than usual? He says, incredibly 547 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: more vivid. There's questions about the sounds, the sights. Did 548 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 2: you pass through a tunnel? Did you experience deceased loved ones? 549 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,800 Speaker 2: He said yes, I actually saw them. Did you encounter 550 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: or become aware of any deceased or alive beings He 551 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: says yes, my dog, Tramp and some voices all trying 552 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: to talk to me. Did you see or feel a 553 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 2: brilliant light, yes, a light clearly mystical or other worldly. 554 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: Did you seem to enter any other unearthly world? He 555 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,240 Speaker 2: says A mystical realm that I can't convey in words. 556 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: I would love to go back. Did you have a 557 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: feeling of joy, he says, yes, incredible joy. Did scenes 558 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 2: from your past come back to you? He writes, My 559 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: past flashed before me. It was out of my control. 560 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: It was so real, and I'm certain that I will 561 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 2: be with my dog's tramp and Lady Girl again in 562 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 2: the presence of the light that surrounded us. Did you 563 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 2: come to a border or a point of no return? Yes, 564 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: I came to a barrier and I was not permitted 565 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: to cross. And then there's questions about the person's religion, 566 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: and then there's questions. Here's one. During your experience, did 567 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 2: you gain special knowledge or information about your purpose? Yes, 568 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: he says, as it is. I have problems with my health. 569 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 2: I've been on so many medications, and they are not 570 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 2: good medications, but they keep me alive. As I learn 571 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: more about why I'm here, I pray that I can 572 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: play a big part in my kid's lives. It's my 573 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 2: job now to teach about faith and God and how 574 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 2: we are part of something so much bigger. Doesn't matter 575 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 2: if you're rich or poor. I will never again be 576 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: afraid when I was there, I had a very calming feeling, 577 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 2: even though you'd think i'd be in pain from my 578 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 2: fall and the loss of blood. Are there one or 579 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: several parts of your experience that are especially meaningful or 580 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 2: significant to you? Yes, Tramp, How can I tell you? 581 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: I felt him against my skin, could smell him with 582 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 2: my nose, could feel him with my hands. He was 583 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 2: there protecting me the whole time. There's lots of other 584 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: questions that I don't have time to share with you 585 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 2: right now, but I think I've covered the important ones 586 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,280 Speaker 2: about the dog. When you hear these near death experiences, 587 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: they sound really great. You get to see your loved 588 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 2: ones again, you get to see pets, you get to 589 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 2: feel this unconditional love. Sounds fantastic. Here's the problem. Once 590 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 2: these people get back in their bodies, very often they 591 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: go through grief. They have experienced something so wonderful and 592 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 2: suddenly they're back in their heavy bodies. Thankfully, we have 593 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 2: organizations like n D E, r F dot org and 594 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,839 Speaker 2: ians dot org that can help people through. So when 595 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,399 Speaker 2: we get back from the break, we'll talk about other 596 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 2: ways our pets let us know they're still alive and 597 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: have some words from a friend about pets in the afterlife. 598 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio 599 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 2: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 600 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 1: Keep it here on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 601 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 602 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 4: Sanders Champlain will be right back. 603 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: The art Beelvault never disappoints classic audio at your fingertips. 604 00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: Go now to Coast tocoastam dot com for full details. 605 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 4: Hey everyone, it's producer Tom of Coast to Coast, A 606 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 4: M and more. Sandra starts right now. 607 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain. 608 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 2: You may have heard this before, but God smelt backwards. 609 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 2: Is dog with our pets? Be it a dog, a cat, 610 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 2: a ferret, a bunny, a bird, a horse, we get 611 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 2: that unconditional love. How else do I know and why 612 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 2: do I believe that our pets go on one? We 613 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 2: know from hospice, doctors, nurses, and family members that have 614 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 2: witnessed people just before they pass. We have what's called 615 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: deathbed visions. People can feel and see loved ones weeks 616 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 2: before they die, and they are as clear as they 617 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 2: could see you or me. Oftentimes the family pet shows up. 618 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: This happens especially with children passing. Also, I have witnessed 619 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 2: zillions of medium demonstrations and heard stories from many people 620 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 2: who've had medium readings, and the medium knows accurate information 621 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 2: about the pet. If your loved one shows up and 622 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 2: they had a favorite white poodle, very often a medium 623 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 2: will say they see the loved one, they're with the poodle. 624 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 2: So good mediums are another reason that I believe that 625 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 2: our pets go on. Sonia Rinaldi and other people that 626 00:41:52,320 --> 00:42:00,160 Speaker 2: experiment with instrumental transcommunication. These are through pictures through video. 627 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 2: As in Sonia's example, she gets pictures from the afterlife, 628 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 2: not only having the person who has passed, but very 629 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 2: often the picture of their pet, dog or cat will 630 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 2: come in on the same image. I personally have done 631 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 2: a lot of work with electronic voice phenomena only to 632 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 2: hear messages from a loved one and then believe it 633 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 2: or not. I've heard barks, I've heard people say the 634 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 2: name of a dog, and this has happened on several 635 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 2: different occasions, so that gives me comfort that the dog 636 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 2: has survived physical death. I know people who can sense 637 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 2: the presence or even see out of the corner of 638 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 2: their eye their pet. I remember meeting a man and 639 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: once he found out that I'm interested in the afterlife, 640 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 2: he decided to share with me a very strange story. 641 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 2: He's a mechanic and sometimes he gets so in the 642 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 2: zone working on a car, and he says, out of 643 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 2: the corner of his eye, he can see his father 644 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: clear as clear can be, looking younger, and also the 645 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 2: family dog. And as soon as his consciousness kicks in 646 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: and he looks over, they disappear. But he says, they 647 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 2: are so crystal clear, and they're very real. There's also 648 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 2: people who have had signs from their animals. I know personally, 649 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 2: after my cat passed, I still felt her jump up 650 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 2: on the bed. Here's a story from the book Signs 651 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 2: from Pets in the Afterlife by Lynn Reagan. And this 652 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 2: book is just packed with stories about signs from Pets 653 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: in the Afterlife. By the way, this comes from Judy 654 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 2: about one of her deceased cats. Eddie was thirteen years 655 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 2: old when he passed. His favorite spot in the house 656 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 2: was in our bed, just between our heads. He would 657 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 2: lie there peacefully and purr up a storm. We always 658 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 2: told him pear us to sleep Eddie. After he passed, 659 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 2: I would wake in the middle of the night because 660 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 2: I would hear his loud purr or his noisy meow. 661 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 2: We had no other cats in the house. I knew 662 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 2: Eddie was letting me know he was still with me. 663 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 2: A few months after Eddie's death, we welcomed a new cat, Ginger. 664 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 2: Four years later, Ginger became very ill and we lost 665 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 2: her too. The last few months of her life, I 666 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 2: had to keep a crate at night beside my bed 667 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 2: for her safety. She got very tired of the crate 668 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 2: and would pull on the lock all night long. It 669 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 2: made a very loud, clanking noise. After Ginger passed, we 670 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,800 Speaker 2: put everything away, Yet every night thereafter I would still 671 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 2: hear Ginger beside my bed, pulling on the door of 672 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 2: her crate. I'd like to play now a few words 673 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 2: from Scott Milligan. When he is in the tramps state. 674 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 2: He has sat on behalf of the spare world since 675 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 2: he was fourteen years old. He's now at forty year 676 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 2: old man, and on most Fridays he goes into trance 677 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: and we have an extraordinary conversation with a gentleman named 678 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,760 Speaker 2: Eric who works through Scott. I've spent over two hundred 679 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 2: hours with Scott in the trance state, and there's no 680 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 2: question for me. This is the real deal. You'll hear 681 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 2: my question in Eric's response, Eric, I'd like to ask 682 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 2: a question on behalf of Hayden. 683 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 3: I trust that they all will yes. 684 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 2: Thank you, he says. I put my cat down this morning. 685 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 2: It was a seventeen year relationship. I know it was 686 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 2: the right thing to do, but now I'm having feelings 687 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 2: of guilt. How can I best reconcile this within myself? 688 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 2: I've heard animals transition like humans. Is there a way 689 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 2: to be certain? Will signs come to me if I'm 690 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: open to receiving them or is it just a matter 691 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 2: of faith that he is a on the other side 692 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 2: of life and in good hands. 693 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 3: Well, my dear boy, I have to say to you 694 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 3: you need no reassurance to what I am going to 695 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 3: remind you already know. First of all, I asked the question, 696 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 3: was the decision that you made this day? Was it 697 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 3: done through love? Then there should be no guilt. Your 698 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 3: animals are still souls that are transformed into the spirit. 699 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 3: Animals my friends may only live for only a short 700 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 3: period of time because they know of love. When they 701 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 3: come to our side of life, your family will care 702 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 3: for them until you are reunited. If true love is there, 703 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:05,959 Speaker 3: the animal will remain with you throughout your journey into 704 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,800 Speaker 3: the greater world of spirit. If there was no love, 705 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 3: they will continue their journey in their own understanding, as 706 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,759 Speaker 3: you will continue yours. And what I mean by that 707 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 3: there are animals that are bred for human consumption. When 708 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 3: they come to our side of life, they will exist 709 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 3: within their paradise with no interference by those who are 710 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,920 Speaker 3: their master. But animals that are called by name and 711 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 3: named by you were named in love. Why would it 712 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 3: be any different For the grief of an animal versus 713 00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 3: grief of a person, love is the same. And therefore, 714 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 3: my friend, if you have known love, you will know grief, 715 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 3: as that is the shadow of it. Many people who 716 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 3: are hearing my words have now empathy for you, and 717 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 3: little lights within their minds are thinking of you, because 718 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 3: they too know the pain that you are experiencing today. 719 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 3: But you will dream, you will hear, you will feel, 720 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 3: and you will look around your house, and you will 721 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 3: have glimpses, and then your mind will question that I 722 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 3: truly see it, or was it my imagination that amos. 723 00:48:54,360 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 3: My friends can make themselves known easier in people like myself. 724 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:09,280 Speaker 3: Their vibration is much more finer than us. Even though 725 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 3: they come to the same place, they are treated with 726 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 3: the utmost respect because they share compassion. I know you 727 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 3: speak of cat, but cat and dog are very similar. 728 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 3: When you say to your loved one, walk with me, 729 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 3: they may say they do not wish to, but the 730 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 3: animal will walk with you rain or shine, snow or wind. 731 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 3: You may sit down and they sit with you, not 732 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 3: distracted by modern technology. If you are sick, they will 733 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 3: sit with you. If you are hungry, they wish to 734 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 3: eat with you. There are many thoughts that are different 735 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:11,280 Speaker 3: to your modern world. Now, your children, once they become 736 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:17,200 Speaker 3: more cognitive to their environment, they may wish to hide 737 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 3: in their room, be embarrassed to be seen with you, 738 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 3: will talk frough devices. But animals are different. They like 739 00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 3: your company. They don't mind if you dress in regalia 740 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 3: that may cause embarrassment. They will still sit with you. 741 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 3: Animals show compassion and wish to share their time. Please 742 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 3: for God's sake, however you seek God to be, Never 743 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:57,320 Speaker 3: feel guilty because what you have done was done through love. 744 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 3: An animal that loses it facult days may turn to 745 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 3: you and say, help me, this is not who I 746 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,280 Speaker 3: wish to be, But they may speak in a way 747 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 3: not for your ears or for your eyes, but to 748 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 3: your soul. It is time, and therefore, my friend, you 749 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 3: will see all that you have loved, be it through 750 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,240 Speaker 3: the rise and full of your son, of the rise 751 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 3: of your awareness within our reality. As you come to 752 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 3: our side of life, when it is your destiny, you 753 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 3: will be met by all those who have preceded you, 754 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,800 Speaker 3: and all animals that have become part of your family. 755 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 2: Those words bring me so much comfort. And I know 756 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,480 Speaker 2: we're going to see our pets again and our loved ones, 757 00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 2: but I think there'll be it tails the wagon and 758 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 2: we crossover and they'll be happy to see us. If 759 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 2: you want to join Scott and I on a Friday, 760 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 2: please do. You can find everything we've got coming up, 761 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:14,760 Speaker 2: including our free Sunday gathering, medium classes, and so much more. 762 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 2: Just go to We Don'tdie dot com and click on 763 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,480 Speaker 2: the store page, the Sunday Gathering page. You can join 764 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 2: our Facebook community and so much more. In closing, my 765 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 2: name is Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening 766 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 2: to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast 767 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 2: to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. 768 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 769 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. 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