1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official Jets Podcast powered by Amazon Web Services. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen Here in the team meeting room, 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: or what we call the auditorium, in the front of 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: the class here, so to speak. Were you a front 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: row kid or back row? Middle row? Because the back 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: broke kids thought they were too cool for school. The 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: kids up in the first row, we're a little bit 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: too eager for me. Yeah, I was not a first 9 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: front row kid either. Were you a class clown? Okay? 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I thought maybe you would be 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: hot temper? Okay, so therefore needed to be in the 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: middle or the back regardless. It's the combine preview, the 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: combines coming up. We're recording on a Thursday, and a 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: week from now, the drill start on the field at 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis. And I feel like it's one 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: of those things where draft season is it really starts 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: in January, but then it ran himselp just about now. 18 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: So given everything that's going on in mock drafts, and 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: you often see a tackle being selected by the Jets 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: at number eleven, whether it's Andrew Thomas, Trisan Worves Mackay. 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Beckton's of course, is the hot name right now or 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Jeddrick Wills or even the receivers like Jared Judy and 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb. Well, what's your overall take on where the 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: Jets are? Obviously free agency has not happened yet and 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 1: a lot will be shaped based on what Joe Douglas 26 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: and his staff do there. Well, what do you think 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: about the mock draft so far? It's all interesting. It's 28 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: it gonna change so much between now and late April. 29 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about we're sitting here and it's 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: late February, so you still have a full two months 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: to go. The importance Indianapolis has never changed. I don't 32 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: think everybody inside buildings throughout the National Football League always 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: talk about medicals and how these guys do uh from 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: an interview perspective, But it's going to be different this 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: year because the schedules are basically swap because for years, 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: Greens these guys were working out during the day. But 37 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: now it's a made for TV event because the prospects 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: are going to be working out in prime time and 39 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: NFL network is going to take advantage of that and 40 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: maybe tap into some new audiences. But with that being said, 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: what I feel about the mock drafts um no surprise 42 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: because we saw the Jets what they had eleven different 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: offensive line starters in two thousand nineteen. And Joe Douglas, 44 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: a former offensive lignment at Richmond who helped build help 45 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: build the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line into a championship unit, 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: has talked about that being a priority not only this year, 47 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: but for for however long he's going to be here 48 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: as general manners of New York Jets. He wants to 49 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: be stout up front. So you got both your tackles 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: from last year and Brandon Show on the right side, 51 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: Kelvin Beacham on the left. They're unrestricted free agents. I 52 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: believe the Jets have six offensive linemen who are unrestricted 53 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: free agents. Six and I mean the ones that come 54 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: to mind are Tom Compton started down the stretch for 55 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Brian Winners and he's gonna be free agent. And Alex Lewis, 56 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: whom the Jets traded for from Baltimore free agent. And 57 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned the Eagles offensive line. I even think about 58 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: when Joe Douglas was a part of the Ravens team 59 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: back in the day, and you think of Jonathan Ogden 60 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: being the staple there, right, Jonathan Ogen, I'm not going crazy, right, yeah, Okay, 61 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: I sometimes get confused or you looked at me for 62 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: a minute. I was like, well, maybe I'm thinking about 63 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: end pace. Now. That's Jonathan Ogden. He he was like 64 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: the main stay there for the Ravens. So and like 65 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: you said, Joe Douglas said, they not only the offensive line, 66 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: but the defen some lines who always going to be 67 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: a priority for the Jets as long as he's here. 68 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: And the Jets right now pretty pretty stout on the 69 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: defensive line, So I think it makes sense for the 70 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And I think in terms of the combine, 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: I think it's important to to say that the medicals 72 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: are clearly very important, the interviews that teams do behind 73 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: the scenes that the fans don't get to see, and 74 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: then after that then the testing is what's important in 75 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: that pecking orders, like medicals and interviews and then the 76 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: athletic tests. I talked to the the NFL personel about this 77 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: over the years, and they've always said that what you 78 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: want to see when these guys actually go and work 79 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: out is that it validates what you see on tape, 80 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: and you never want to look at the guy's work 81 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: out in Indianapolis and vault them into a different stratosphere, 82 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: because the most important thing when you're talking about a 83 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: football player is the tape. Yeah, and I'm glad you 84 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: mentioned that because you think about a guy last year 85 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: and this is probably gonna make its way around the 86 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: Twitter circuits shortly, DK Metcalf in the three cone drill 87 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: had like a historically bad number, and everyone at this 88 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: time last year after Metcalf went through the combine, Okay, 89 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: he's a freak straight line ran a four three something 90 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: freak on on on the bench press, but he doesn't 91 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: have the agility. And then of course he had a 92 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: very good season with the Seattle Seahawks as a rookie, 93 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: and if you watch the tape from All Miss you 94 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: see that. But the combine being in prime time and 95 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: being the spectacle that it is, I think sometimes gets 96 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: a little too much attention to what you said, where 97 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: the tape almost gets overshadows at time. Oh yeah, and 98 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad you actually brought up Metcalf because I remember 99 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: last year about this time people were saying, I don't 100 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: know if he's run enough routes. It's a limited offense 101 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: in terms of what he's doing and how is he 102 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: going to make the transition in the National Football League. 103 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: I know the argument on the other side of the the 104 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: spectrum is gonna be, oh, yeah, well, they did run 105 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: a lot of nine routes, they did run a lot 106 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: of goals with the Seattle Seahawks. But he looked to 107 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: be an emerging young talent in the National Football League 108 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: last year and a good fit with the Seattle Seahawks. 109 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: But Jets have eight draft picks at all. I believe 110 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: Green's it's what is it, three picks in the top 111 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: sixty six and they have four picks overall in the 112 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: first three rounds. You gotta credit Joe Douglas for that 113 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams trade because he picks up the additional three 114 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: this year in and definitely at least a five in 115 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: one that becomes a four if the Giants indeed signed 116 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: Leonard Williams to a contract extension before the league year 117 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: of merch eight teams and back in August traded for 118 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: Nate Harrison and gave up a six round pick, and 119 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: then I guess the conditions were not met in the deal, 120 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: so the Jets got Nade Harriston and they got their 121 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: pick back, right, So then now the Jets have two 122 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: six round picks, one which is their own and the 123 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: other one that they traded to the Kansas City Chiefs, 124 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: or that the Chiefs traded to them for Darren literally, 125 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: so so the Jets, have you got a Super Bowl ring? 126 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: Did Deeley, Mike Panell and Eli McGuire practice squad player there? 127 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: I saw big panel out there. He's game, and I 128 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: think that, uh, it was nice especially to see him 129 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: get a ring because he said along a windy road. Um. 130 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: But and it's always interesting to see when you're watching 131 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl of the playoffs, guys who have come 132 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: through the door here and then you know roster. You 133 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: can say that throughout the league because the you're never 134 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: gonna see the same roster every year, and they're always 135 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: guys who wore green and white now sprinkled throughout the right. 136 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: And like you said, that's the case for all other 137 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL too. I mean one guy that 138 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: stuck out to me on the Titans, Anthony Foster, was 139 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: signed here as an undrafted free agent out of Harvard 140 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: actually um an intern here in two thousand and sixteen 141 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: with me played football at Harvard d Von Robertson, and 142 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: he was a quarterback, wasn't he He was a defensive vent. 143 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: You know, I thought that tight I needed a quarterback 144 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: and so sometimes yeah, yeah. I spoke to him a 145 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, texted with him a couple of 146 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: weeks ago. But he, Um, he's real friendly with Ferkser. 147 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: So when Firs came here, I made sure to go 148 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: talk to him. And it's just it's one of those 149 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: things where I might never see him again, but I 150 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: remember that moment regardless. I'm getting off I'm getting off 151 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: track here. That's fine. The great thing about the draft, 152 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: as we had into the combine, is that, um, what 153 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: you're thinking about Donald line is what's gonna happen with 154 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback domino? As you mentioned, the free agency. So 155 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to look at free agency first from 156 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: a jet perspective, from a league perspective, because that's kind 157 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: of going to set the table for what's to come 158 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: in the draft. What you want to do in every 159 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: GM throughout the league will tell you this for the 160 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: most part, is you want to fill your holes in 161 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: free agency so you don't enter the draft with the 162 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: gaping whole saying I have to go in this direction 163 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: because when you have to do something, that's when you 164 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: make mistakes. So so the Jets are set at quarterback. 165 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: We don't always gonna be the backup quarterback next year 166 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: because Trevor Simeon, who was hurting week two, he's an 167 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agent. David Fels, who finished the year as 168 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: the backup quarterback, he's an unrestricted free agent. But we 169 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: know who the quarterback is and that's twenty two year 170 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: old Sam Donald, who's still, by the way, is probably 171 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: younger than I would bet half of the guys coming out. 172 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: So Sam Donald is, I'm pretty sure or six months 173 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: younger than Joe Burrow, the projected number one pick. And 174 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: you know it's funny because this time a year, Yes, 175 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: to combine means so much, but just to show you 176 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: how much the on testing matter, I mean, Sam Donald 177 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: didn't throw out the combine, Like if Joe Burrow doesn't 178 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: throw out the combine, it probably does next to nothing 179 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: for for his stock in terms of the potential to 180 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: decrease because this is the first time where he can 181 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: talk to teams because he didn't go to the Senior Bowl. 182 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: He didn't do any of that. So this is the 183 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: first time that he's gonna talk to the Bengals and 184 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: any other team that wants to talk to him that's 185 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: in the market for quarterback. And you know, I think 186 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: that similar to the Senior Bowl, the same thing can 187 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: be said for the Combine in that a lot of 188 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: players will use this week as a launch pad, and 189 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: of course there will be a couple of guys where 190 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: the the tailor off, like DK Mattcalf was one of 191 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: those guys just because of the three cone trail, even 192 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: though he's a freaky athlete and all the other ones. 193 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: So are there any guys that you think are gonna 194 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: jump out of the gym per se? I ask you 195 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: that question because you've been uh handling Brewer's draft board 196 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: throughout the year in New York just dot com. And 197 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: also you had that prospect a profile series that you 198 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: wrote about, So I kind of flipped the tables and 199 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: ask you that same question. But I will say that 200 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: the other thing to keep in mind when we're watching 201 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: the workouts is all these guys are going to have 202 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: another opportunity in a couple of weeks at their individual 203 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: pro days. Two perform better in whatever they did or 204 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: didn't do in Indianapolis. Like some guys will say, I'm 205 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: not gonna run in Indianapolis, but I'll run at my 206 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: place and that's fine. Or maybe some guys won't too 207 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: good in specific drills like you said three cone drills, 208 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: but well, you know who, you know who. This reminds 209 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: me of. This reminds me of Jabal Adams. He has 210 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: forty at the combine. I'm pretty sure it was okay, 211 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: and then he ran something ridiculous at his protest and 212 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: and that of course meant a lot to Jamal and 213 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: then you you watch him on tape and he's clearly 214 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: got the speed. It's not an issue. So it's one 215 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: of those things. Also where the forty R dashes so mechanical, 216 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: So if you have a track background, you know how 217 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: to get into stands, you know how to how to 218 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: best first off the line in terms of straight line 219 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: for our dash. That's what it's all about, is at 220 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: your beginning. And most of these guys who are projected 221 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: to be first, second round picks third each hanging out 222 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: with individual trainers right now and they're working on that. 223 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: If they're going to run, um But getting back to 224 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback a bit, we'll talk about the quarterbacks in 225 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: free agency. I think we should touch upon that a 226 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: little bit because that's gonna have an impact on the draft. 227 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: But you mentioned Burrow, I'd say, right now, Green's before 228 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: answer to a question, because we got off on a 229 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: little tangent is number one and number two. I'd put 230 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: him in penny right now. Joe Burrow is going to 231 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: become Cincinnati Bengal and Chase Young is it going to 232 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 1: become a Washington Redskin? Is that safe to say? Yeah? Well, 233 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: the only the only way I don't see Joe Burrow 234 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: going number one is if he doesn't want to be 235 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: a Bengal and doesn't somehow similar to Eli Manning and 236 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: Phil Rivers and what old four that was or whatever 237 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: year that was, um do something similar to that. And 238 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of a storyline that's going around 239 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: right now because Joe Burrow didn't say he He had 240 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 1: a quote that was like, I understand I have leverage 241 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: and I have a process, and the Bengals have a process, 242 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: but neither of us have talked to each other. So 243 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: I think one, you know, this time of year, I 244 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: think people want to stir the pot a little bit, 245 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: no doubt, but it didn't seem like it didn't. You know, 246 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow could have said that along the lines of, 247 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: you know what if the Bengals want to take me, like, yeah, 248 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: that that's a dream come true to be the number 249 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: one overall picking da da da dada. It seems like 250 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: the door is open, but obviously I don't know if 251 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna walk through that door. And I think we're 252 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: gonna be sitting here a draft weekend in a couple 253 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: of months, will be at the brand new bet MGM 254 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: Casino studio, and we're gonna be talking about flashpoints, and 255 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: the first flashpoint will be Detroit because are they really 256 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: going to sit there and take a very impressive quarterback 257 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: out of Ohio State Jefficcuda, who all the mock draft 258 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: experts have him going there right now? And number four 259 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: is the Giants. What are they going to do? Will 260 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: they be the first team to actually take an offensive tackle? 261 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: And how will that ultimately impact the Jets? Because how 262 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: do they have their board stacked with these with this 263 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: top quartet, it tackles, it sure seems like greens and 264 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: you can film in on this Wills worse Um Thomas 265 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: in fact, then are considered by most to be the 266 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: top four. However, ordered yea, yeah, yeah, I think that's 267 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: definitely fair. And I think the one thing about the 268 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: tackles it's interesting is two of those guys and Jeddrick 269 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: Wills and Tristan Worth's predominantly played on the right side 270 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: of the offensive line. So granted they might be very 271 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: good talented players. I don't know if you're the Giants 272 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: at four, let's say, and you want your franchise left 273 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: tackle because Nate Soldiers getting older and whatnot. Do you 274 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: take somebody like Wills and try to project him on 275 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: the left side, or do you just try to draft 276 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: somebody like Thomas, who is a left tackle. He was 277 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: voted by the SEC coaches as the SEC's top out 278 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: offensive lineman this season. Like, do you go that route 279 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: or do you go the raw mountain of a man 280 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: in McKay Beckton and Beckton is. He's fascinating to me 281 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: because he's listed on Louisville's website at six seven, three 282 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: sixty nine pounds. I can't wait to see what he 283 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: runs in the forty because everyone talks about how light 284 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: he is on his feet and even his weighing, Like, 285 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: is he gonna come in at three sixties? He's gonna 286 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: come in three fifty five? Has he been eating as 287 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: he's been training like that? That's a big deal, I 288 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: think for him. I wonder how much they way that 289 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: no pun intended. How fast the guy runs in the 290 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: fort probably not all. I want to see how while 291 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: he moved literally, And the other part of this is 292 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: what are what NFL teams think of that? Wait? Do 293 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: they want him twenty pounds less? Are they comfortable with 294 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: where he's at? Because you know, I can't think of 295 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: offensive lignment and the NFL today who weighs quite that 296 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: much left hand me neither. I feel like I feel 297 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: like that's part of the appeal. Though he's so big 298 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: and on tape supposedly moves so well for a guy 299 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: that size. I think that might be you know, if 300 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: a team falls in love with him, Let's say theoretically 301 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: the Giants fall in love with him, and the idea 302 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: of having this wanting a generational talent given his size 303 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: and his ability to be agile and be a dancing 304 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: bear no pun intended. I feel like, how do you 305 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: pass up on that? Guy. If you're the Giants, Yeah, 306 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: I don't think you do. And the other thing to 307 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: think about here is Miami, oh is most likely going 308 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: to take a quarterback with their first pick. When are 309 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: they going to pick? Though? Right now they're slaughtered than 310 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: what six is? Five? Five? And the Chargers, who were 311 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: also yeah, in the market for quarterbacks. So there you go. 312 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: So can those two teams sit there um and get 313 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: their guy? Is Miami's guy to uh? And as he's 314 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: sitting there at five, um, are the Charges comfortable going 315 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: in the direction of Herbert from Oregon? And what's going 316 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: on in free agency? Because we start with Drew Brees. 317 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: We know he's going back to New Orleans for weeks 318 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: with wondering if maybe he retires, and that's it for 319 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: Drew Brees. But you got Teddy Bridgewater out there. Taysom 320 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: Hell is a restricted free agent. Teddy is a u 321 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: f A. He's probably looking to start somewhere the former 322 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: Jet um. And then it all starts with New England 323 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Um. He's going to enter free agency for 324 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: the first time in his professional career and is going 325 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: to entertain offers. If Tom Brady makes a move, what 326 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: the Patriots do in turn? Is Brady out and with 327 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Raiders, whatever, it would be your first 328 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: year that you've been here without Tom Brady is, yes, 329 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: my first year here was My first season was two 330 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: thousand one. That was his rookie year. No, it was 331 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: his second season, I believe, or it might have been 332 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: its third. Was the second season he took over a starter. 333 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: I should know that. But that was the first game 334 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: fin on nine eleven in Foxborough. That's the game that 335 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: mo lewis Um and Sean Alice converged Andrew bled so 336 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: right in front of the sideline directly across from me 337 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: because I was working pr at the time. Uh. He 338 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: obviously bled so suffered from eternal bleeding. It was a 339 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: near death experience. We later found that out and some 340 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: skinny kids from Michigan came into the game Tom Brady. 341 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: The Jets won at Game ten three, Chris Martin rushed 342 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: for over a hundred yards. But never would have known 343 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: what was the calm because not only did he take 344 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: over and they started having success. The Patriots at that 345 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: time in two thousand one, where the little engine that 346 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: could you know, they're kind of not the overly talented team, 347 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: but they're coaching them up while they're sticking together, and 348 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: they found a way and they ultimately beat the Rams 349 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: that you're in the super Bowl, and that started the 350 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: dynath day. But I got no idea. You know, do 351 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: you think Brady's going back to New England. I don't know. 352 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: I think it's it's hard to imagine him not being 353 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: in New England. I'm sure probably the same for you. 354 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: And I know some people might point, well Peyton the 355 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: same thing, like no one pictured him in a Bronco's uniform. 356 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: Well Peyton got hurt like Tom didn't get hurt, Like 357 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: this would be Tom Brady leaving because he thinks the 358 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: next opportunity is probably the best chance to win it. Actually, 359 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee said this on his show, and because I 360 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: like too this kind of story. He is very entertaining 361 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: a lot of energy, love it. So Pat was saying, 362 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, most people in their twilight years of their career, 363 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: I want to go to New England and win a ring. 364 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: You know. I mean you think of all the guys 365 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: that you know one year deals or even someone like 366 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: Randy Moss he goes turns his career around. There has 367 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: a great year and then Tom Brady is doing that now, 368 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: but he might leave New England. Like it's kind of 369 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: this paradox here because most most veterans in league might 370 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: go up to Foxboro for a year, be with Tom 371 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: Brady and try to win a ring with Bill Belichick 372 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: and all them. And now Tom has the opportunity, but 373 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,479 Speaker 1: he might leave. So at the end of the time, 374 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: that's gonna be the talk of the combine. To be 375 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: honest with you, is that that's gonna be one of 376 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: the key points that you're gonna hear about throughout the week, because, Um, 377 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: this is when everybody in the league converges on one 378 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: town in America's heart land and you have free agency 379 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: that proceeds the AFT. So what is to come? Everybody's 380 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: going to be talking about that there. Um, And then 381 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: it just doesn't like if Brady were ever to leave, 382 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: then what does New England do? What are the Chargers doing? 383 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: So let's they parted ways with Philip Rivers? Is Indianapolis 384 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: sticking in it out? Which it called me Brisa? Maybe 385 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: is there a reunion between Frank Reich and Rivers in Indianapolis? 386 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: Steam a lot? Now, Yeah, you just don't know what's 387 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: gonna happen in Carolina with Cam Newton. They have new 388 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: ownership and new coach and Matt Rule. Um, how is 389 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: his health? Is he ready to roll? Uh? Would they 390 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: part ways? Would him? Would he be on the market? 391 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: You got Jamis Winston a former what was he? Was? 392 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: He number one overall? Former number one overall? Pick who's 393 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: what twenty six years old? Or so? Who's gonna be out? 394 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: And now it's a post He's got La sig vision. 395 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna who's going to be an unrestricted free agent? Um? 396 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: The list goes on and on. So, I mean, we 397 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: could see a lot of status quo, but we could 398 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: see a seismic, seismic shift in the National Football League, Uh, 399 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: to the likes of what we've never seen that I 400 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: was gonna say this definitely feels like the stage is 401 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: set for some crazy stuff to happen in the NFL. 402 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: And see players and uniforms that you might not even 403 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: have thought of even the beginning of this season. And 404 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: do you think of Phil Rivers? Of course, I mean 405 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is the headliner. Drew Brees, I mean, I 406 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I'm actually really curious to see what happens 407 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 1: with Teddy like he to me, to me, that's one 408 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: of the more interesting players because how much money is 409 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: he going to command after I think he's the NFL starter. Yeah, 410 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: but how much? How much is that? And you think 411 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: about he played very well for the Saints, he played 412 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: well here in the preseason and the brief stint that 413 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: that he was here, and then how much is that 414 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: worth to a team? I think it's gonna be very 415 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: fascinating to see the market for Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah. Um, 416 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: he did a fine job filling in for Breeze last year. 417 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: Obviously that's a pretty complete team, one of the better 418 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: teams in the National Football League. But I thought he 419 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: got better with each passing game and he's going to 420 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: be an attractive option for somebody. Um, but yeah, this 421 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: is really something. Then you got a monitor the health 422 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: of Big Ben, Roethlsburger and Pittsburgh. So there was also 423 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: what's going on in the National Football League right now. 424 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: When we talk about Breeze, we talked about Brady, we 425 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: talked about rivers Um, we talked about Ben. You gotta 426 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: start thinking about the next generation. We saw that in 427 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Petrick Mahomes great player, wasn't having his 428 00:24:54,359 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: best outing, but when the moment was its toughest, he 429 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: stepped up his game and he led the Chiefs to 430 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl victory. And a lot of people are 431 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: talking about maybe he becomes a forty million uh dollar player, 432 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: forty millions a year a player. But with that being said, 433 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: it's not just gonna be Mahomes leading down to follow 434 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: into the next generation. Who's going to be with him 435 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: and one of the guys and I'm not just saying 436 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: this because we're sitting here in the Jets meeting room, 437 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: is one of the most talented he on the quarterbacks 438 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: in the league is Sam Donald? Oh that that was 439 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: the point there you go. Um, what I was gonna 440 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: say was we got off track a little bit and 441 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 1: yeah we're recording. Yeah, what we're trying to All right, 442 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: let's jump back to the combine and um, forty our 443 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: dash clearly gonna be gonna be imperative for or viewership. 444 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: And since that all fans love the four yard dash, 445 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think Henry Ruggs, the 446 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: Alabama receiver, might take the crown. There. Jerry Judy three, Yeah, 447 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy said he's gonna run sub for three, Jerry, 448 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: Judy himself hopes to run four. Uh sub for three? 449 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: He said, Well, I didn't know Judy had that kind 450 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: of speed compared to his teammate. So well, Ruggs, Ruggs 451 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: is the guy is speed wise? Yeah, but three of 452 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: what is Ruggs running three? Nine? Well, Judy thinks he 453 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: might run. Judy thinks Rugs might run a four two, 454 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: four to two or four to five or something like that. Uh, well, 455 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: that would take the top of a defense. You know 456 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: what while we sit here and talk about the tackles, 457 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: is that what's myself and you have discussed this multiple 458 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: times off camera and off the podcast, is that you know, 459 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: the Jets could come to select at number eleven if 460 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: they stay there, and it's possible all four of those 461 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: top tackles could be off the board. Where is conversely, 462 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: this receiver class, as Dave Brewler has told you, pretty exceptional. 463 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: There could be every receiver still on the board when 464 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: the Jets go up there to select and law space. Yeah. 465 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: I think I think that's gonna be fascinating because even 466 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: let's say three out of the four tackles are gone 467 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: by eleven, that leaves Joe Douglas and his staff with 468 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: options in terms of one what do you think about 469 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: that one tackle that's still there too? You could have 470 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: your pick of the litter at receiver, even though that 471 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: it is a very rich class or I mean, this 472 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: is not gonna be a popular selection. I don't think 473 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 1: in the eyes of Jets fans, you better not saying 474 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: interior defensive linement. Otherwise of no, no, no, no. I 475 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: was not gonna say that. I was gonna say and 476 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: as Russia, And I think Jets fans would come around 477 00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: to it eventually. But I think in the instant, like 478 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, the New York Jets select let's say, for example, 479 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: l s u Edge Rusher, caleban Chase on Jess fans 480 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: are probably like ready to riot with pitchforks. What happens 481 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: in free agency. That's the funny thing about that's the 482 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: hard part of doing mock drafts. And I don't envy 483 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 1: those guys, especially this time of year, because you have 484 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: no idea what they're gonna do in free agency. We 485 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: talked about the Jets long list of free agents at 486 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: the offensive line position. Joe Douglas is going to address 487 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: this offensive line of March make no mistake about it. Um, 488 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: we just don't know what it's going to look like. 489 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: Is Calvin Beecham back? Uh? Is they forementioned Alex Lewis back? 490 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: Do they view him as a starter because last year 491 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: he was brought in more so for up purposes and 492 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: he became a starter along the line. Um, what do 493 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: they feel about the third round pick from USC Chumadogo 494 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: who started a few games last year for them as well? 495 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: And then there are some big time names at the 496 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: guard position, and you know, you got to think about 497 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: salary cap and all of this, and the Jets could 498 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: have you know, they're going to have more than fifty 499 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: and it's they could go upwards to what eighty million 500 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: or so or something like that depending on what happens 501 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: out all plays out. But do you get in the 502 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: branded Shurf sweepstakes? I don't know. And then there's a 503 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: guy we're talking about the Patriots. Yeah, Brady is going 504 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: to be the most talked about free agent and he 505 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: should be. But they also have a guard there in 506 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: New England who has becoming available as well. That is 507 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 1: not my thoughts on Joe Tuney beyond, but Devin mccordy 508 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: is also a free agent for New England. Not to 509 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: say here, I mean New England has to, you know, 510 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: choose who they want to resign to. Too many is 511 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: gonna get too many is gonna get paid by somebody? 512 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no doubt. I'm almost It almost feels based 513 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: on people that I was speaking to in the Senior 514 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: Bowl and interviewing the different and felt experts down there, 515 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: everyone I spoke to seem to think that the strategy 516 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: here would be more of the second way free agents 517 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: and really adding Yead offensive liner everywhere felt like everywhere, 518 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: like adding the middle class of this Jets roster per se, 519 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: because I mean last year we talked about it as 520 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: as his content staff and as a team and as 521 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: covering the team. If you look at the Jets starters 522 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: before training camp even started, you're like, there's some talent 523 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: that like, there's a legitimate towent on this team. And 524 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: then you go through and then you get to the 525 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: death like, okay, well if you got hurt, you might 526 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: see some problems and that is exactly what happened. Oh yeah, 527 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: and Douglas is gonna address it up, don't make no 528 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: mistake about that. And then you know we keep on 529 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: juggling between off of the line and receiver. Is that 530 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:56,239 Speaker 1: you know Jamison Crowder's back, he was very productive last year. Well, 531 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: what's the wide receiver market going to be for a 532 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: guy like Robbie Anderson? Because he's he's young, twenty six 533 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: years old. What he's the fifth undrafted three thousand yards 534 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: receiving in his first four seasons. UM's never had a 535 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: thousand yards season. With that being said, UM, I think 536 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: he's still developing as a player and he's getting better. 537 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: But um, if a Marie Cooper stays in Dallas, well, 538 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: is Robby Anderson become does he become the most talented 539 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: young guy on the free agent a free agent market 540 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: who's a receiver? And okay, so what in then another 541 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: part of the equation is what if he does decide 542 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: to come back and the Jets and him and his 543 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: representation figure out a number with that impact? What they 544 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: felt about the receiver class at eleven? Because Brugler and 545 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: you have been discussing this all along, is that, Yeah, 546 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: maybe not everybody's Ceedee Lamb or not. Maybe not everybody's 547 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy, right, not everybody's um Rugs. But there's a 548 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: lot of depth in this class. Yeah, and that depth 549 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: extends all the way to the fourth round. And when 550 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: I say the depth extends of the fourth round, meaning 551 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: somebody in this receiver class that falls, let's say to 552 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: the fourth round might end up being a Day one 553 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: starter for an NFL team. I mean. The thing is, unfortunately, 554 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: like you don't wanna look at history and use that 555 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: as a determining factor for your draft, but when you 556 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: look at first round receivers in the past, it's not. 557 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: It's not a the The second rounders always end up 558 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: being the guy and the third rounders end up being 559 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: the guy. I think about Terry McLaurin last year, DK metcalf, 560 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: second round pick, Michael Thomas, the Saints receivers second round 561 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: pick for Chard Perriman, first round pick, Corey Coleman, first 562 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: round pick Amari Cooper was the first round pick. It's 563 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: interesting because other free agent um when I think about 564 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: successful Elvis Landry third round pick. When I think about 565 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: successful Alabama receivers in the first round might automatically go 566 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: to Atlanta. I think about Julio Jones and and Alabama's 567 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: got two of them coming out this year. I think 568 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: Jets fans honestly might be a little scarred from Alabama receivers. 569 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: Well that's a tough take. But anyway, listen, you have 570 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: um Joe Douglas, who I think is going to be 571 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: very calculated in approach and free agency. You you you 572 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: talked about the waves of free agency. I think people 573 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: have to watch that this year. Maybe the Jets aren't 574 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: getting a name like a Levan Bow or name like 575 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: a C. J. Mosley, but sometimes it's gonna be strengthened numbers. 576 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: I kind of I thought the Buffalo Bills did a 577 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: nice shot free agency heading into last season filling their holes, 578 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: especially up front along the offensive line. Is years ago, 579 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: their offensive line was one of the worst in the 580 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: National Football League and it became a top half of 581 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: the league line. And that was in one off season. 582 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: They signed seven linemen. Right, you talked about strength and numbers. 583 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: There you have um. But yeah, another thing to think 584 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: about in the salary cap eras you want to have 585 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: all pros every position, that's just not possible. And there 586 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: will be some of those guys who are twenty one 587 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: of your arm restricted free agents that you're you want 588 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: to get back, you know, and uh, you know you 589 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: have so many fascinating decisions to make. Because you mentioned 590 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: that s you edge rusher. Okay, well, what's gonna happen 591 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: with the Jets and George Jenkins? George Jenkins had fifteen 592 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: sacks the last two years, eight sacks last season, appearing 593 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: in fourteen games, also set the edge for the NFL's 594 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: number two ranked rushed defense. Good locker room presence, Um, 595 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen there? The good thing about where you 596 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: stand with your own free agents is you can negotiate 597 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: with them any day, whereas other teams gotta wait until 598 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: all Right, Well, let's let's let's hit a couple of 599 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: combine questions. My first question is, just in your time 600 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: covering the NFL, is there a guy that sticks out 601 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: as the biggest combine freak that you remember? Uh? I 602 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: didn't have to say se Juan Berkeley, Yeah, because you 603 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: know that was the year. You know the Jets is 604 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: obviously moved up from six to three. Uh, in order 605 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: to get a quarterback and bigger Mayfield. Who you thought 606 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: in January that year you're thinking, well, maybe that guy 607 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: can be the first round pick. Yes, because this stock 608 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: continued to gain steam and then all to the League. 609 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: He was taking number one overall. But when we went 610 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: to the Combine a couple of years ago, I was 611 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 1: thinking San Donold's going to Cleveland. What was interesting was 612 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: actually with the yeah after that. But was fascinating about 613 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: that year was the Giants ward number two, and the 614 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: buzz was, say Kawan barkling. They had Eli Man and 615 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: our Eli Man. He's retired, of course, but it's like, 616 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: were they really going to take a quarterback at I 617 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: mean running back at two? And then people talked about 618 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: it all weeks. This guy's just gonna knock this thing 619 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: out of the park. I think he's one of the 620 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: guys who stood out because in this day and age, 621 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: running backs typically don't go number two overall. I don't 622 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: think he heard himself at the Combine because guy was 623 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: just a physical specimen. I don't remember his um across 624 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: the board. What what he actually did that his forty 625 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: yard dash I remember was scorching. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty 626 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: sure it was. I think it was definitely four four something. No, 627 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: I think it was four four something or maybe four 628 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: three nine. Another thing about si Quan is it his 629 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 1: legs are like the size of our entire bodies. You 630 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, right, so, um, he was 631 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: a guy who stood out to me. I'm trying to 632 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: think a couple of other guys. I remember Byron Jones, 633 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: the the Yukon plug a product, and then Cowboy now 634 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: we're going to be a free agent. He had a 635 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: ridiculous broad jump. Yeah, I mean it's like sicken and 636 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: you gotta watch it. Yeah, and his um someone came 637 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: out of school a couple of years after he did, 638 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: didn't really do a lot in the NFL. Obi Melan Fond, 639 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 1: will you remember he had a freakish combine too. And 640 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: I remember those guys in particular, but I just listen there. 641 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,360 Speaker 1: There's so many things said, we measure and way and 642 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: time and all these other things. And I remember the 643 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: one year that the Rams ultimately moved up to get 644 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: in position to get Jerry Goff was talking about his 645 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: hand size and he wasn't able to hold on football 646 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: and things like that. And now now I can't say 647 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: I watched the Rams every week. We're covering the Jets here, 648 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: but we'll see them next year. I haven't heard one 649 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: word about Jerry Goff's hand size since he left out, 650 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: And I'm pointing. I keep pointing. Here, there's a photo 651 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: of Sam that no one can see. I keep calling 652 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: like this, Sam's not standing, there's a photo of him. 653 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 1: But at the same thing with Sam, and I mean, 654 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: this is like the combines, like the ultimate microscope. You're 655 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: gonna hear all these guys. He's got short arms. This guy, 656 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't he's too short for them. I mean, 657 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: think about offensive linemen short arms. I mean that was 658 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: Calvin Beecham's knock. He's he's been in the league eight years, right, 659 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: and he just told you the other day, which I 660 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 1: thought it was, it was his best season. That was interesting. 661 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: So so I mean this is all. It all goes 662 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 1: back to what you said. It should be a confirmation 663 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 1: of what you see on film. Can this person play 664 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: football level that you want to select him to be 665 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: a part of your The other thing is if the 666 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: guy is playing on the outside, Like if we were 667 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: talking about receiver before, you you don't want a receiver 668 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: to run four six. I understand that, um, But if 669 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: he is in Kwan Bolden and he runs four or 670 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: five to go back and watch the table, Okay, you know, 671 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, you don't want in bention eight times. You know, uh, 672 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: there there are certain things, but I let's take let's 673 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: let's all take it into account and say, Okay, they 674 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: should be in this kind of range, but you can 675 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,760 Speaker 1: can guys help themselves. Yes, I think where they really 676 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: helped themselves is getting up on the board, but showcasing 677 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: they understood what was happening on film, how teams we're 678 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: trying to attack down and things of that nature, and 679 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: also why I should be a part of your program 680 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: and why I'm going to help your team. Ultimately, you know, 681 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: had an awful combine a couple of years ago. Orlando Brown, 682 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 1: the right tackle for the Ravens, is like he had 683 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: like a bad comment like didn't bench well, didn't run well. 684 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: Everyone's saying like, like, oh my god, what happened? And 685 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: then he ended up being a third round pick starting 686 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 1: for the Ravens. And I'm I mean, I don't watch 687 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens every game. I'm pretty sure he had a 688 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: good season and he's a good player for them. So 689 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: the combines one of those things where players will rise, 690 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: players will fall. But at the end of the day, 691 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: the question remains the same, can you play football? And 692 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: and the combine is not the the answer to that. 693 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: The combine is just a part of the evaluation puzzle. 694 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: And listen, there are gonna be a few picks in 695 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: the first round that everybody outside head wrong. There's gonna 696 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: be a few, and then it happens every where a 697 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: guy you know, maybe maybe draft pronostigators head guy in 698 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: the second round or third round or fourth round or whatever. Um. 699 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: You know, team's gotta be thorough. Um. And this really 700 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: highlights what you do as a staff. The other thing 701 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: I'd like to say is that here's my thing about 702 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: the draft is, yes, it is important to choose the 703 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: right guy, but player development is huge in all this, Okay, 704 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: because what do you do with the guy when he 705 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: comes inside your building? Your strength staff, your player development staff, 706 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: your position coach, your coordinator, your head coach, everybody. So, yes, 707 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: it's part of the deal. Yes, you have to draft 708 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 1: the right guy, but the process doesn't end there. Yes. Yes, 709 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: And some of these guys come from really small schools 710 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:12,160 Speaker 1: to whether it's Division two programs, um or whatnot, so 711 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: they are entering a totally new life on the field 712 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: and off the field, and you can really help them 713 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 1: once they're inside your building. The best teams, the best organizations. 714 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: They take guys and they oftentimes hit on somebody, not 715 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: just because they did the work leading into the draft, 716 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: was all the work they did after the draft. That's 717 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: a very good point. I mean, there's so many tent 718 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: pole events. Is the first one. Then they're free agency, 719 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 1: which will shape the draft. And then between the draft 720 00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: and free agency or the Pro days, and then it's 721 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: the draft, and then after the draft, it's the player 722 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: development and that's where the real funds starts. And this 723 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: is Joe douglas Is first true pro offseason as general manager. 724 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: And this is I kind of think this like Adam 725 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 1: Gates's first off season as head coach, because when you 726 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: get hired in January, you know everything's turning, everything is turning. 727 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: You gotta put it all in. So now these guys 728 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: are these guys are together too, you know, so, meaning 729 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: that they've had time to Joey had time to watch 730 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: the way Adam prepares, um, the way he thinks of players, uh, 731 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: the way Greg Williams um implements his system and things 732 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 1: like that. So he's been able to observe all that. 733 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's actually at the time in 734 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: which Joe was hired, and then the narrative was, what 735 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: a weird time to hire a general manager because it's 736 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 1: in June and he didn't do the draft, he didn't 737 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 1: do free agency. You don't know if you senndy of 738 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: these guys that just came in. Well, right now is 739 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: where I think you start to see the benefits of 740 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: hiring a general manager in June, because, to your point, 741 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 1: you get to go through a full season with the 742 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: head coach and you're not like if he, if Joe 743 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 1: were hired this past January, I'm sure to your point, 744 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: like everything's turning like getting assimilated to a new organization, 745 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 1: new team, new coaching staff, new personnels. Have you got 746 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: to put a staff together, they're not your scouts and 747 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: you're going, You're going, You're going, and then boom free agency. 748 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: Where now Joe's had you know, north of six months 749 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: to prepare for this offseason and he got to see 750 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: and evaluate the team throughout the year. So I think 751 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 1: that that that could only pay off well for the 752 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: Jets moving forward. Um, yeah, it's another and you'll see 753 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,360 Speaker 1: those guys together next week, and it's just it's another 754 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: step in the process because then after that you got 755 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: the pro days. We're gonna have free agency March eighteenth. Um, 756 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure the Jets will sign a couple of guys, 757 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: just like they did Daniel Brown very recently, the reserve 758 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: tight end who also plays a prominent special teams role 759 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: on the squad. They'll sign a couple of those guys, 760 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,720 Speaker 1: I mean a handful. I don't know what the number 761 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: will be prior to eighteen. And then there's gonna be 762 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: a flurrying moose because you have to fill out a 763 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: roster and that doesn't again doesn't necessarily have to be 764 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 1: the guys on day one. You're gonna have to fill 765 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,280 Speaker 1: out a roster and you're gonna have to fill some holes. 766 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 1: Jets have some clear holes that we all know about, 767 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 1: um prior to get into the draft. And then and 768 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 1: then let's see what happens. But a long time ago, 769 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 1: until April, I was gonna say that I was our 770 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: combined preview podcast, but it really like a State of 771 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 1: the Jets podcast at that point. And we'll listen seven 772 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: and nine last year. Uh, and again, the thing that 773 00:45:56,120 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: I always think about with the National Football League team is, yeah, okay, 774 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: do you have your organization in place from a leadership 775 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: structure wise. Now, I think the Jets are set. They 776 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: got the coach in last January. They hired the GM 777 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 1: last June, first off season together. Now the second part 778 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 1: of that is who's your quarterback? Jets I think are 779 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: in a good position right now with Sam Donald and 780 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: now we're going to see how this all is built 781 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 1: up around uh donald and company. And you know, Joe 782 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: Douglas got three ranks, three ranks to in Baltimore, one 783 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia. He knows what it takes to build a champion. 784 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's building one tomorrow, that it's going 785 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 1: to happen in I don't. I don't think you put 786 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: a time stamp on it. But he is going to 787 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 1: do this the right way. Do you have it? Official 788 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: Jet podcas as powered by AWS, The Combine Preview, really 789 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,520 Speaker 1: the State of the Jets and worse e A and 790 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: I will be recording multiple podcast throughout the off season. 791 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,959 Speaker 1: And you know, next stop is free agency, so maybe 792 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: we'll see you then. M friend