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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to the Nordy ben I Show. I'm your

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Speaker 1: host Rob Shooter and it is Thursday, which means our

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Speaker 1: dear friend Mark Lupo joins us. Hey, Loopy, how are you? Hello?

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Speaker 2: Hello, I'm good. I was at the VMA's last night.

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Speaker 2: Well a little sleepy, but I am. I am here

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Speaker 2: and well.

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Speaker 1: Tell me all about Taylor Swift. Did the place go

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Speaker 1: nuts when she walked in?

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Speaker 2: Of course?

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean she's right sat right at the front. You know,

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Speaker 2: every time she stood up, did anything, sneezed, people were streaming, cheering,

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Speaker 2: and so it's pretty cool to see her win some

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Speaker 2: awards and look amazing.

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Speaker 1: And what about the performances, Like the v nas are

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Speaker 1: known for their outrageous performances. Arguably they made Madonna a star.

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Speaker 1: We didn't know who Madonna was until she did Like

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Speaker 1: a Virgin on the v M as Britney SS and

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Speaker 1: the Snake. Was there a standout performance for you?

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Speaker 2: There were some really cool performances. Meghan the Stallion who

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Speaker 2: hosted the show, it was awesome. Chapel Ronan, She's coming

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Speaker 2: with the new Lady Gaga. She definitely had a great

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Speaker 2: performance too, and the sets were really cool and they

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Speaker 2: had some fireworks like fire type. I know you would

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Speaker 2: call that, damn like fires like pyrotechnic.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like a it's like a production.

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Speaker 1: I've been a couple of times, and it's always fun

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Speaker 1: and it's larger than life, and it's like going to

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Speaker 1: the circus and it's fun to watch on TV. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure it holds the same impact as it used

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Speaker 1: to hold for me. I used to watch this every

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Speaker 1: year like it was the Oscars of the Golden Globes.

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Speaker 1: Now it's sort of tune in a little bit a

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Speaker 1: little What about you?

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Speaker 2: Well, I had to google some of the people. I've

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Speaker 2: never heard of them before, So I think I'm with

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Speaker 2: you in that and make too old for this. But

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Speaker 2: it is a lot of fun. You know, you eat

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Speaker 2: and drink and just have a you know, laugh, and

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Speaker 2: it was a good time.

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Speaker 1: Oh fantastic. Who did you go with? Who would you

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Speaker 1: plus one?

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Speaker 2: Kevin with me?

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Speaker 1: That's the luckiest boyfriend, Kevin. If you were listening before

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Speaker 1: you met Loupo, were you hanging out with Taylor Swift

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Speaker 1: at the Rems? No, no Mark. Even if you weren't

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Speaker 1: a lovely handsome fellow outdate you just for the perks.

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Speaker 2: We do have a good time and he gets to

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Speaker 2: see some coll stuff.

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Speaker 1: So he's a good guy and I'm glad he's still around.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to ask, Mark, didn't want to ask.

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Speaker 1: But things are going well.

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Speaker 2: Everything is fine, fantastic.

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Speaker 1: K let's jump into the show. What time is it,

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Speaker 1: my friends? It is tea time. Big story at the

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Speaker 1: top of the show, really disgusting story. So elon Musk

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Speaker 1: and I really honestly don't know that much about I

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Speaker 1: know he bought ex Twitter, I know he's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of noxious. I know he enjoys saying controversial things. Well,

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Speaker 1: now he's offering to give Taylor Swift a baby after

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Speaker 1: she endorsed Kamala Harris. Oh, and Swifties are outraged. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's just Swifties that are outraged. A billion dollar,

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Speaker 1: fifty three year old man who has twelve children saying

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Speaker 1: that he's going to impregnate Taylor Swift or anybody else.

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Speaker 1: It's just kind of gross. Let me tell you what

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Speaker 1: he said. So after Taylor's endorsement, he said, fine, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: you win. I will give you a child and guard

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Speaker 1: your cats with my life. I know what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: So at the end of her endorsement, she signed off,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was quite funny Taylor Swift childless cat lady,

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Speaker 1: because that's a term that has been thrown around a

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Speaker 1: lot during this election, sort of disrespecting women, putting women

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Speaker 1: really in their place. It's a weird thing to be

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Speaker 1: talking about. But I have, honestly some of my favorite

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Speaker 1: people in my life, some of my favorite girlfriends don't

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Speaker 1: it's a compliments Mark. Have you called me a childless

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Speaker 1: cat lady, I'd say, thank you very much. It's the

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Speaker 1: coolest thing in the world. And obviously the most famous

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Speaker 1: childless cat lady in the universe is Taylor Swift, who

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Speaker 1: is arguably too the most successful. So it's a silly

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Speaker 1: argument to make, and he should just stop. Just stop.

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Speaker 1: You know. Let me are in an argument and you're

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Speaker 1: losing because Taylor's winning this you just keep going, and

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Speaker 1: he's just made it even worse, like saying that he

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Speaker 1: wants to give her a baby makes me creepy. Let

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Speaker 1: me tell you what some of the response has been

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Speaker 1: and this is so weird, man. I agree. Another person

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Speaker 1: is saying you were creepy and weird. It's the oddiest thing. Mark,

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Speaker 1: Do you know much about Elon musk Is? How does

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Speaker 1: all this play out in your mind? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean, think what's happening here at you know, at

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Speaker 2: that corus and he's sexually harassing her on a public platform.

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Speaker 2: And I think to be outside of your political affiliation,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't have to be harassed when you state that

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Speaker 2: you are voting for a candidate and saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not expressing my political views. I'm just saying that

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Speaker 2: then it's harassed and taged for it. And I think

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Speaker 2: it's just really unfortunate. And you know, Elan is known

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Speaker 2: is known to be someone who really likes attention, and

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Speaker 2: you know, he's targeting someone who of course will now

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Speaker 2: bring him headlines and Harman's and just you know, crazy

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Speaker 1: You're so smart, Mark, this is the Bethany Frankel school

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Speaker 1: of pr You always kick Kim Kardashian or somebody like

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift, and then you get publicity so if you

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Speaker 1: punch up, then you're going to be in the papers.

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Speaker 1: People like me are going to be talking about you.

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Speaker 1: We've never done an Eline Musk topic. I've never mentioned

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Speaker 1: his name. I don't think the the podcast in like

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Speaker 1: three or four years. We just I asked the researchers.

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Speaker 1: We do have maybe one or two, not too many here,

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Speaker 1: but we do have one. I asked the researcher if

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Speaker 1: they would look back over old shows, over old scripts.

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Speaker 1: They said, you've never done a story. It's just that

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Speaker 1: your wheel has. But because this is related to Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 1: the biggest star in the world, someone we talk about,

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Speaker 1: someone we love, somebody that just last night, Mark stole

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Speaker 1: the show. I think she has more Video Music Awards

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Speaker 1: than Beyonce. I think she's the most honored celebrity entertainer

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Speaker 1: of all time at MTV, and so we can't ignore

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Speaker 1: her now. I do know too, and we're treading on

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Speaker 1: this quite carefully. We're not a political podcast, but I

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Speaker 1: do agree with you, Mark. You should be able to

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Speaker 1: say who you support without other people attacking you. I

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Speaker 1: on social media where I am. But if you don't.

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Speaker 1: I respect that too. If you don't want to tell people,

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Speaker 1: I respect that too. But I'm not going to attack

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Speaker 2: And that's what's sort of unfortunate is when this is

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Speaker 2: the example you're setting for people, and I think especially

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Speaker 2: for women, you don't want to be able to be

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Speaker 2: in a situation where you feel as though you can't

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Speaker 2: share and be confident in the things that you believe in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I totally agree with that mark, which

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Speaker 1: brings us to our whole question of the day. Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk has offered to give Taylor Swift a baby after

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Speaker 1: her political endorsement. The Swifties are outraged. Are you is

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Speaker 1: this wrong? Go vote on a Twitter page at Naughty

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Speaker 1: Nights Rob at Facebook page is Naughty Yossip, and be

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Speaker 1: sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results. Hey, Loopie,

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Speaker 1: what are you working on that? So?

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Speaker 2: I think I have some news you're gonna like Rob.

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Speaker 2: Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner have finalized the divorce after

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Speaker 2: a nasty custody battle.

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Speaker 1: Oh thank goodness, this was ugly mass so so ugly.

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Speaker 2: So Joe Jonas and Soviet Trainer are officially divorced. After

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Speaker 2: months of drama and legal battles, the former couple reached

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Speaker 2: a confidential settlement on Tuesday, and while the specifics of

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Speaker 2: their child custody arrangement for daughters Willa and Delphine remain unclear,

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Speaker 2: it's certain that this marks the end of their four

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Speaker 1: Oh thank goodness, Oh thank goodness, because it got so nasty.

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Speaker 1: He lives in my neighborhood to Joe Jonas, and I

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Speaker 1: often see him walking around. He's very cute, not very tall, no,

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Speaker 1: but very very skinny, mom very or you could blow

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Speaker 1: a bit of a crush. I liked him a little bit.

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Speaker 1: This turned me off when they broke up. He was

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Speaker 1: too aggressive. His pr people were too aggressive and they

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Speaker 1: tried to paint her as a bad mother and they

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Speaker 1: came out too strong. Don't do that, don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember on the podcast, I was at the

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Speaker 2: concert of the Jonah's Brothers concert like two years ago,

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Speaker 2: and I was sitting right by them right before the

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Speaker 2: divorce was announced, and Sophie looked so miserable. She was

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Speaker 2: like hiding the corner from the other ladies and the

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Speaker 2: other sisters and whatever. And I just knew that something

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Speaker 2: was weird. And then to see how they painted her,

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Speaker 2: like you said, like a villain, like a bad mom.

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Speaker 2: I was so turned off by the behavior.

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Speaker 1: I mean too, It's like I've learned this though in

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Speaker 1: my own life, is that if somebody upsets me, it's

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Speaker 1: quite easy to go on the attack or whisper a

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Speaker 1: few little rumors had there, or plant a few little seeds. No,

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Speaker 1: don't do it. Don't do it, because they never grow

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Speaker 1: into anything worthwhile. They only grow into hate. Just don't

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Speaker 1: don't whisper stuff behind their back. And what he did

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Speaker 1: behind her back, particularly because it was about her being

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Speaker 1: a bad mom and it was about her partying. Don't

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Speaker 1: go after the kids. These kids are going to be

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Speaker 1: in your life for a really long time, Like they're

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Speaker 1: not going anywhere. They'll remember this. They're too young at

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Speaker 1: the moment mark, but there will be a day because

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Speaker 1: the Internet lives forever, but they will google mom and

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Speaker 1: Dad's divorce and they're going to see what he did.

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Speaker 2: And we're not going to free it either.

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Speaker 1: On this Podcast's true and we've got big mouths. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you watch it if you're listening to Okay Living Along.

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Speaker 1: Prince William has warned that Kate still has a long

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Speaker 1: way to go in his first outing since she revealed

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Speaker 1: that she was cancer free. So Prince William stepped out

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Speaker 1: for the first time since Kate shed that positive news.

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Speaker 1: That amazing video market was three minutes long. It's like

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Speaker 1: a movie. It was like a little movie. Wasn't it

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Speaker 1: so produced? I know, I felt like Spielberg must have

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Speaker 1: shut it. It looked just glorious. It was beautif you know,

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Speaker 1: Meghan exploded. I mean, because it's just that's what they've

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Speaker 1: taught these royals how to do. If there's a silver

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Speaker 1: lining of Meghan and Harry, it's that they've turned everybody's

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Speaker 1: of videos. So I'm all for that. However, William is

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Speaker 1: saying that it's all good news, but there's still a

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Speaker 1: long way to go now. My insiders are telling me

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Speaker 1: there was a big debate before Kate put out that

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Speaker 1: be like, oh great, she's fine, she's back. She's not.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So Dax Shepherd has addressed exciting rumors about swinger

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Speaker 1: Remember if you're chasing your dreams, you're not running fast enough.

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Speaker 1: I promise you you can catch your dreams. Your dreams

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Speaker 1: And get this Mark, you can run a lot faster

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