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We'll kind of take a pause 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: from that this weekend and and everybody will head down 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: to West Palm Beach for the owners meetings or the 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: Spring meetings, whatever you want to call them. The NFL 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: spring meetings. We didn't get to have them last year. 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: This will be the first time that the league will 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: do this in a couple of seasons here. They did 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: it virtually in previous years. But I wanted to talk 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: a little bit about the Pro day stuff, Matt, because 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert have They've gone to all 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: the top quarterback pro days thus far this year. Sam 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: House will be on Monday. I assume Tom lam will 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: not be there because he's part because of the meetings. 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: He's part of the NFL Competition Committee. The Competition Committee 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: has a meeting where they discussed rule changes at this 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: owners meeting. Kevin Colbert's not going to West Palm Beach 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: because he's heading to to North Carolina to see Sam Howe. 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: Assuming I'm like, I'm gonna assume that he's headed to 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: to go see Sam how because they've gone and seen 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder, Malik, Willis, met Corral can he pick it? 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: And they've blown off like Ohio States Pro Day to 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: do this, they blew off, uh, the Penn State Pro 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Day to do this. These are there's are trips that 40 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: they always make. Yeah, right, right right, and you can 41 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: drive there, Yeah, right, a couple of things. I don't 42 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: know what to take of it. I mean, part of 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: me thinks maybe this is Kevin's last hurrah, that they've 44 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: built the roster well enough and still have all kinds 45 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: of cat money to fill in the gaps with cheap 46 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: bargain prices that you take a quarterback at and then 47 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: you have no clap problems for five years, and you 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: hope you hit on them. I mean, I think they 49 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: could do that. Um, I'm a little fonder of Picket 50 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: than Ridder and how than these guys than I was 51 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: when the process began. But I also think it might 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: be a bigger story if they didn't go to these things, 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: you know, to these pro days and and and there's 54 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why. First of all, if you're 55 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: not going to take a quarterback, you want the league 56 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: to think that you are, you know, I mean, yeah, 57 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think there's certainly value in that, 58 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: not to mention, especially at this position. I want to 59 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: if you think that all those names we just mentioned 60 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: are starting play, they're gonna be starting quarterbacks at some 61 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: time in their life, were close to it or whatever. 62 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: I want to know everything about those human beings I 63 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: possibly can, especially when you don't have your franchise quarterback 64 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: in place. Well for two reasons for that, but because 65 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: you might be trading for them. You know what if 66 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: it was Jordan's love, you know, and get stuck behind 67 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: somebody great din you know, you're not sure if I 68 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: did we like love or not. You need to know 69 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: those things, you know, um or they're the next Trabisky 70 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: where they're there they're on the open market, or Winston 71 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: or Mariotta a couple of years from now, or just 72 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: as importantly, you're gonna play against these guys. They're your competition. 73 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: You want to know everything possibly can about them. Yeah, 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: I think as well that you know, I look back today, 75 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: I would just wrote a piece on d K Pittsburgh 76 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Sports about different draft classes and how things break down. 77 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: If you look back, for example, at that two thousand 78 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: seventeen draft class when Mr. Robinski was taken second overall. 79 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: The other two quarterbacks who were taken in the first 80 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: round that year were Mahomes and Watson, there wasn't a 81 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: clear cut. It's hindsight now to look back and say, well, 82 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes was the number one picking that draft, and 83 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, there was no consensus that year on who 84 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: the best quarterback was. And I you know, you look 85 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: at it and you say, well, and everybody just parents 86 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: what a lot of the he had? What they hear 87 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: from a lot of the draft analysts, Well, this street, 88 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: this year's draft class stinks, it doesn't stink. You know, 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: there are they're going to be guy is in his 90 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: draft class, probably several of them who who becomes starters 91 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: in the NFL. So you have to you have to 92 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: do your due diligence on this. What if What if 93 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: one of these guys turns into the next Patrick Mahomes 94 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: and you didn't do your homework on him, you didn't 95 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: do the legwork on him, and you pass on him, 96 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: then everybody's gonna come back and say, well, you could 97 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: have had this guy. So you do your due diligence 98 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: on him to see if. If that's the case. Mahomes 99 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: was not considered a slam dunk top ten prospect, he 100 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: would end up going tenth. The Steelers brought him in 101 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: for a visit that year, right, and they were picking, Yes, 102 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: a couple of things there there. It's very easy to 103 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: used to use the word hindsight to forget all the 104 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: questions around Homes Alan Lamar, Shaan Watson. I I had 105 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson is my number one quarterback that year. 106 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: I didn't have I didn't I didn't have Mahomes up. 107 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: You know his number one. I had Watson. You know, 108 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: bring up the same thing because I love to pat 109 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: myself on the back and brag about I had my 110 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: homes number one because I did. But I watched them 111 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: four Maybe about that smart, you know what I mean. 112 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: That happens though, it's what happens. You know, massive questions 113 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: around him. You know, the Mahomes questions aren't any better 114 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: than the than the Willess ones. It was. This is 115 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: a wide open, crazy offense, and this guy takes his 116 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: an unbelievable mind of chances. And you know he never 117 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: never had a winning season in college. I mean Josh Allen, 118 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: like what's his accuracies of he's big and strong and fast, 119 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: but his accuracies all over the place. And you know 120 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: these guys. Lamar was very unconventional. I mean, Kyler Murray 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: went first overall, but he's little, you know, like none 122 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: of these guys were slam dunks. So I mean, you 123 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 1: look at the best quarterbacks and league. Dak Prescott was 124 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: not considered a top press prospect either. I mean, I 125 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: know we're focusing on first rounders, but you can't look 126 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: at this thing in hindsight. And I'm sure this Steelers 127 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: aren't like, Okay, maybe it isn't a great quarterback class. 128 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't think it's EJ. Manuel class where there's one 129 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: dude and everyone laughed and they took him. Yeah. I mean, 130 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. I just look at this 131 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: and like there will you know, people are are I 132 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: think maybe reading too much into this. Well, the Steelers 133 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: are going to all these these pro days, so they 134 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: must be taking a quarterback. Not necessarily, They're just doing 135 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: their homework on these guys, that's all. I think they're 136 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: considering it, right. I think if it's the right of years, 137 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,559 Speaker 1: they didn't consider it. If it's the right guy, yeah, 138 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, for for the last I don't 139 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: know fifteen in the last eighteen years, when Kevin Colbert 140 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: would come into the into the and and have his 141 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: meeting with everybody, uh, you know, before the pre draft, 142 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: pre draft meeting, he would sit down and say, well, 143 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: there's some spots that we aren't taking as a player 144 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: at quarterback and punter kicker. Well, this year you may 145 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: take a quarterback, you know, you may just take it. 146 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: He may come this year and say, well, we're not 147 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: gonna take a tight end or running back high right, 148 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: Okay about quarterback. I'm not gonna say that. Yeah right, 149 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: you're not gonna say that about the quarterback position because 150 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: you don't have a franchise quarterback. Now, maybe Mitch Drabinsky 151 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: turns into that potentually, Right, that's the beauty of the 152 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: situation that they put themselves in, and they don't have 153 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback, which is where they would have 154 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: been had they not signed Trabinsky exactly exactly. Um, if 155 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 1: they love one, they're gonna take him. I mean, I 156 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: have no doubt in my mind. Here's a little bit 157 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: of tinfoil hat though for you. They sure don't seem 158 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: to be hiding their love for Malik Willis at all, 159 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like every analyst in the world, 160 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: I heard Tomic Shay talking about its Senior Bowl coverage, boys, 161 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: Steelers of Willis, Steelers of Willis, any chance again, this 162 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: is my tinfoil hat coming out that they've loved Kenny 163 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: Pickett from the start. They know him like there next 164 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: door neighbor, and they want everyone to think they like 165 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: somebody else. They like both of them, is what I know. Yeah, 166 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: and I see why I think they like Willis Moore. 167 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: I could see why they would like Willis Moore. I 168 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: don't but I see liking both of them, right, Yeah. 169 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: But I don't know that that you're necessarily going to 170 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: to do what you need to do to get those 171 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: guys picking up to me, probably yeah, I mean I 172 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: just don't see a situation where, you know, are they 173 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: going to trade up to six to get Malik Willis? 174 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Probably not? No, I mean that that's a big move. 175 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: Would you move up to seventeen to get him? Maybe, 176 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, if you really like the player. Um, but 177 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: I think that, you know, I go back to what 178 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah said, um right before the combine that looking 179 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: at this draft class, no matter where you slot those 180 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: guys at where you think they're going to go in 181 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: the first round, there's probably going to be a player 182 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: that you like there who has a higher grade. There's 183 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: going they're going to be higher graded players available when 184 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: a lot of these quarterbacks are picked. I think it 185 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: was his mock that. That's when we went over two 186 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: days ago, right, And I think Keiper's mock does and 187 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: and to me, those are two that mock with their ears, 188 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: you know. I mean what everyone's telling them that there's 189 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: not many quarterbacks taken and they're starting to fall. I 190 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: can buy that. I mean, history shows us much different. 191 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: And I really think the Lions should consider willicit too. 192 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: And then you're not even even close to even in 193 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: the conversation in the ballpark. But I wonder, to be 194 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: very honest, I've gone back and forth every day for 195 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: a month. Now. Are these quarterbacks worth it or should I? 196 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: And are they worth it for the Steelers? You know it? 197 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: Because boy, it would be nice to have a five 198 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 1: year guy five years of a contract of the twentie 199 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: pick overall that maybe isn't Josh Allen's or Mahomes, but 200 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: he's a good player, that's a good quarterback, and then 201 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: the rest of the roster would make itself. I mean, 202 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: they would have off seasons like this every year. They 203 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: kind of have that right now with what they had 204 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: in quarterback kind of They've got two years of pretty 205 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: cost efficient quarterbacking in the grand scheme of things, and 206 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: they can extend. Let's say, let's say Trabinsky has uh, 207 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: he's the eighteenth best quarterback in the league this year, 208 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: and so at the end of this Yeah, at the 209 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: end of this season, they decide, Okay, Mitch, you're the guy, 210 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna stick with you. We're gonna we're gonna give 211 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: you a two year extension. It's probably and it wouldn't 212 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: kick in until four but you're probably talking about twenty 213 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: million dollars somewhere in that range living is you know, 214 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: inflation is then. But yeah, but the cap is gonna 215 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: go up forty million dollars in that time period. Sorry, 216 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: I mean you kind of do have cost control quarterbacking. 217 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: You're not paying fifty million dollars a year for your quarterback, 218 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: right right, And again, yeah, yeah, that's one of the 219 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: reasons I keep going back and forth on That's a 220 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: big reason why you and I talked about Trappisty and 221 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: Winston and these guys too, you know, a month ago, 222 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, two months ago, because there's you could get 223 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. I also think I also 224 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: have mixed feelings on this too, like why not take 225 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: one more bite at the apple? And if you get stuck. 226 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: You can always trade Tripsky or whomever, or Rudolph or not, 227 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: you know, Triviisky or your first round pick. I mean 228 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: taking another bite at the apple and hope one of 229 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: them make it. I think has a lot of value. 230 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: But then people don't realize there's not unlimited snaps and 231 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: you only have so many. So if you bring in another, 232 00:12:57,880 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: if you bring in a rookie, first of all, you've 233 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: got to get for Bisky ready to be your starter. Right, 234 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: that's gonna take time, and you're probably gonna give Mason 235 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: Rudolph at least a a nominal chance at winning the 236 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: job from him. Yeah, you'll at least pay you know, 237 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: some lip service who you know, not of the captain Mason. Mason, 238 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna take the you're gonna take the starter snaps, 239 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: and he's gonna take sixty. We know what? And you 240 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: sell that to Mason real if I saying we know 241 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: what you can do, we gotta get him ready as well, 242 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: So we're gonna give him more of the starters snaps. 243 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: But you're both gonna get it shot here. So that 244 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: doesn't leave potatoes. But Davis give Haskins two or three 245 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: millions too, so the money. You know. One of the 246 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: things that Kevin Colbert said it is is pre draft 247 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: or pre combined press conference lined adventure and it's waiting. Hi. 248 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: This is Merril Hodge at S and T Bank. They 249 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: know life's for the living. 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Yeah, 263 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: now you're gonna have four when you go to camp, 264 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean you have four that are potential start. 265 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: One of them doesn't make any money. Yeah, one of them, Yeah, 266 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: one of them either a camp farm or one of 267 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: them is Dwayne Haskins. Is Dwayne Haskins your camp arm 268 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: at two and a half million dollars a year? Probably not? 269 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: Probably not? I mean honestly, and I'm sure a lot 270 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: of people are thinking this too, that I would never 271 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: turn my nose up at what I think can be 272 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: as u a good quarterback. I'm not gonna say franchise 273 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: or star quarterback because of Rudolph or Haskins. I mean, 274 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: to me, that's bad business to say we don't want 275 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: to take four to camp. It's almost like the the 276 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: line argument, like we usually keep six, but we're not 277 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna take um, Jordan Davis because we don't want to 278 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: keep seven, you know, like I'm gonna take Davis, you 279 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's a star there that you loob. 280 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: You take them and you figure it out, even if 281 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: that means shipping Rudolph off for a seventh round pick 282 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: or cutting them or whatever, and you know cut you know, 283 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: going from there. But you better like them, you know, 284 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean again, because you're sacrificing another position to do it. Yeah, 285 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: and I look at you know, for example, to bring 286 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: up another draft here, if you look at the draft, okay, 287 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: there was no clear number one quarterback in that draft either. 288 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: If you think back to it, that is that Baker. 289 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: That was Blake Bortle's Johnny Manziel, Teddy Bridgewater, Derek Carr, 290 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. Yeah, I would say the Baker year, there 291 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: wasn't either. So when you look at that job, I'm 292 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: saying there was nobody who anybody was gonna take number one, right, 293 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying, right right, right. Similar. In fact, 294 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: if you think back to and remember that one, it 295 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: was a surprise that Blake Bortles went third over all 296 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: of the Jaguars, and they kept that really close to 297 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: the vest. Nobody had that information. They ran up to 298 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: the podium and we all want wow, okay, and then 299 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: they immediately said Blake's not gonna play one snap this year. 300 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: In a week three he was in there. And then 301 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: you didn't have another quarterback taken until the Browns surprisingly 302 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: took Manzel at twenty two. They had two first round 303 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: draft picks that year. They had traded back and they 304 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: took Manzelle at twenty two, and then Bridgewater was the 305 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: thirty second pick in the draft. He was the last 306 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: pick of the of the first round, Derek Carr was 307 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: the was the fourth pick of the second round, and 308 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: Garoppolo wast pick of the second round. I know Jimmy's 309 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: not a star, but I think it's in interesting in 310 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: that this class also has five starters, you know, or 311 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: that someone will look at starters, and the last two 312 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: taken ended up being the best too. In the two 313 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen draft, And there's no argument that Cars 314 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: the best. He's not Homes, but he's the best of them. Yeah, 315 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: he's a he's a slightly above average NFL quarterback. Yeah, 316 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think we'd have to paint the crazy 317 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: picture to say Ritter or how or Corral ends up 318 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: being the best of these guys. Right, It could be 319 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: very much like this that year you're okay, you don't 320 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: know where that quarter who's gonna take the first quarterback, 321 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: but somebody's gonna take one somewhere. Pretty a couple of 322 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: first rounders and they made all go top fifty like this, 323 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, it wasn't Jimmy, like fifty or something 324 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: like that. Jimmy was okay, But I think all five 325 00:17:55,600 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: will be gone in the first two rounds this year. Yeah, 326 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: there's enough needs in landings, but there's nothing that says 327 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: the Steelers are sitting there with pick fifty two and 328 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: they take you know, Sam how still sitting there. That's 329 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: feeling to me too, and you take him. Yeah, you 330 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: got your first round pick. Now you get your developmental quarterback. 331 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: That's why you go to all these pro days. Yeah. Again, 332 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: if ridders there at fifty two, boom, I mean, I 333 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: I do that quickly. I would strongly consider how And 334 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: back to that two thousand I'm glad you brought two 335 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen class because I bet if you pulled 336 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: thirty two teams they're ranking one to five would be 337 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: all over the place. Someone probably had car one, someone 338 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: might have had Menzel one, you know, I mean, and 339 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: I think this year similar. Yeah, and that turned out 340 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: to be you got three starting quarterbacks. And you know, 341 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: and whatever you think of Teddy Bridgewater that picks a 342 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: hit at thirty two at one, it wouldn't be a 343 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: hit at thirty who it is. Yeah, So you've got 344 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: three NFL starting quarterbacks out of five in that draft, 345 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: out of the top five in that draft. That's a 346 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 1: pretty good draft, Quack. When we record the drive on 347 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: March two thousand, twenty six, I've bet two or three 348 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: of these soon to be rookies will be started. Oh, 349 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: there's no doubt, no doubt. Yeah. I mean, if you 350 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: compare that draft to Jamis Winston and Marcus Mariota, go 351 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: one and two in that draft, none of those guys 352 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: in that draft were considered the slam dunk prospects that 353 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: Winston or Mariotta were. And yet three of those five guys. 354 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't trade Derek Carr for either for 355 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Jamis Winston or Marcus Mariota right now, of course not. 356 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: You would trade Jimmy. You would trade Jimmy Garoppolo for 357 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: those guys. Oregon Mariota coming out as would be the 358 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: first pick in this draft. Yeah, Florida Florida State. Winston 359 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: would be the first pick in this draft, not knowing 360 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: what they did in the pros, just you know that 361 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: version of them coming out, Not that they're locker Lawrence, 362 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: but they were considered better prospects than any of these guys. 363 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: It's far from a guarantee. Yeah, So I mean, you 364 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: you can look at this draft I know a lot 365 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: of a lot of fans are looking at this traffic 366 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: of well, I wouldn't take any of these quarterbacks, you know, 367 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: no matter what. Well, I don't say no matter what, 368 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: because again, if if one of those guys is sitting 369 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: there at pick fifty two, it would not surprise me 370 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 1: at all if the Steelers took In fact, I would 371 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: be shocked if they didn't take one of them any one, 372 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: it is, right, Yeah, yeah, I might trade the forty Yeah, 373 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean if it gets you get the forty five ish, 374 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: you know, certainly, Okay, it's gonna cost us next year's 375 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: third round or fourth round draft pick to move up 376 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: five spots to get this guy, Okay, Yeah, I mean 377 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: that's a great bite of the apple to me. I mean, 378 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: I bring up Ridder a lot, but I'll give you, 379 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: did you say I'll give you fifty two and two 380 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: thousand third teams third for Ridder? Right? Now? Yeah? That 381 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: makes sense, And that makes sense. I hit a home run. 382 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: If he hits right, and he doesn't doesn't have to 383 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: play right away, he can you know, he can sit 384 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: and learn and you know, there's not a lot of 385 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: pressure and if and if any and if Trabinsky still 386 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: turns into something. You could trade him down the road 387 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 1: for for something. You'll get a third round pick for him, 388 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, you could trade, you could turn you 389 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: can flip Ritterer. First of all, you gotta you got 390 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: a cheap backup for a couple of years. And then secondly, 391 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, if he plays well in the preseason in 392 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: your one and two, he's he's a he's a commodity 393 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: that teams want to trade for. Yeah, I mean a 394 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: year ago, I think Green Bay could have got a 395 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: second round pick for Jordan's love, and this year they 396 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: probably get a third. And that guy hasn't done anything 397 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: good or bad. I mean, you know nothing more about him, 398 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: Like quarterbacks don't. Quarterbacks aren't cars that you drive off 399 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: a lot and all of a sudden aren't worth anything. Yeah, 400 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: unless say absolutely stink. You know, if it's Christian Hackenburg, 401 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: that's that's different. But as long as they hold their 402 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: own and just have a bad circumstance. Again, Travisky is 403 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: being recycled, Mariodo is being recycled. You know people have 404 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: hoped for these guys, Yeah, because they all had a 405 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: draft grade on them at some point. Because why which 406 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: brings us back to they had gone to the pro 407 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: days and done all their homework on on these guys. 408 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: That's why you do this stuff about that we bring 409 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: it all the way back around. He is Matt Williams 410 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: and I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the drive here 411 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back, Matt, I 412 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: got an email today and it has the latest updated 413 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: over undertotals for the NFL. Oh nice, Okay, go over 414 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: those when we get back. He is Matt Williams and 415 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lala. 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